Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / CNN Insists "Who can tell the Motive?" of Charlie Kirk's Murderer plus "Loving" Texts between the Murderer & His Boyfriend
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
- 0:04Speaker 1: with you. So nice to have you with us. And
- 0:06Speaker 1: just so you guys know, we are doing almost every
- 0:09Speaker 1: episode now on YouTube as well, So if you want
- 0:12Speaker 1: to watch this show, you can do it on YouTube
- 0:15Speaker 1: as well. This episode we're doing right now is on
- 0:18Speaker 1: YouTube and on audio downloads wherever you get your podcasts,
- 0:21Speaker 1: So we'll remind you about that.
- 0:22Speaker 2: But we're certainly very very very excited about that. Senator.
- 0:26Speaker 1: We've got a lot to chat about tonight, including you
- 0:28Speaker 1: going into the lines then where I live for seven years.
- 0:31Speaker 1: I at first I got a text on him and said, hey,
- 0:33Speaker 1: what bet did Ted Cruz lose to go on CNN
- 0:37Speaker 1: with Caitlin Collins.
- 0:38Speaker 2: That's actually a very good question. It was not with me.
- 0:41Speaker 2: It would have been a great bet.
- 0:42Speaker 1: All of a sudden I get text message you're on there,
- 0:45Speaker 1: I start watching and it was some fireworks.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Well tonight I went on CNN with Caitlin Collins, and
- 0:52Speaker 3: I did so because CNN has been pushing so much
- 0:56Speaker 3: misinformation in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. I wanted
- 1:00Speaker 3: to go on and push back and they've been big
- 1:03Speaker 3: on the whole both sides ism that it's really both sides.
- 1:07Speaker 3: It's Republicans and Democrats that are engaging in violence. It's
- 1:10Speaker 3: Republicans and Democrats that engage in hateful, violent rhetoric, and
- 1:14Speaker 3: so both sides are equally responsible, and that is a lie.
- 1:18Speaker 3: On our podcast just two days ago, we broke that
- 1:21Speaker 3: down at length. Well, tonight, I went on CNN to
- 1:24Speaker 3: battle with Caitlyn Collins, and I got to say. She
- 1:27Speaker 3: screamed at me, she interrupted me, She did not want
- 1:31Speaker 3: the facts, she did not want to admit any of
- 1:34Speaker 3: the reality. She had a political narrative and she was
- 1:37Speaker 3: going to stick with it. We're going to play that
- 1:39Speaker 3: for you, and you're going to see the back and
- 1:41Speaker 3: forth that we had. We're also going to play what
- 1:43Speaker 3: was released earlier this evening, which is the text exchanges
- 1:48Speaker 3: between Charlie's murderer and his transgender boyfriend. And the text
- 1:54Speaker 3: exchanges it is a confession, he admits he's the murderer.
- 1:57Speaker 3: He breaks down the details of what was in the
- 2:00Speaker 3: aftermath of the shooting. And we're also going to talk
- 2:03Speaker 3: about how ABC News gushed about it, treating the two
- 2:08Speaker 3: of them like Romeo and Juliet. They behaved like teenagers.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Pitter patter, Oh, how exciting the two of these sick
- 2:16Speaker 3: individuals talking about how excited they were to have just
- 2:21Speaker 3: murdered your friend and mine, the Great Charlie Kirk.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I want to tell you real quick about the IFCJ
- 2:28Speaker 1: And it's hard to believe it's been nearly two years
- 2:31Speaker 1: ago since the terrorists that murdered more than one two
- 2:35Speaker 1: hundred innocent Israelis and took two hundred and fifty hostages
- 2:37Speaker 1: actually happened. Today, it seems as if the cries of
- 2:40Speaker 1: the dead and the dying have been drowned out by
- 2:43Speaker 1: the shouts of anti Semitism and hatred, and the most
- 2:47Speaker 1: brutal attack on Jewish people since the Holocaust has been
- 2:50Speaker 1: forgotten already by many, and that's by design for many
- 2:53Speaker 1: around the world. Yet the world looks away and we
- 2:57Speaker 1: still need to help those and shine a light in
- 3:01Speaker 1: the darkness. It's a movement of love and support that
- 3:05Speaker 1: I want you to get involved in for the people
- 3:07Speaker 1: of Israel, and it is called the Flags of Fellowship
- 3:10Speaker 1: and it's organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
- 3:14Speaker 1: On October fifth, It's just a few weeks away, literally
- 3:18Speaker 1: millions across America will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in
- 3:22Speaker 1: honor and solidarity with the victims of October the seventh
- 3:25Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three and stand with their grieving families.
- 3:30Speaker 1: And you can be a part of this movement as well.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Your church can be a part of this movement as well.
- 3:36Speaker 1: If you want to get more information about how you
- 3:38Speaker 1: can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, visit the Fellowship
- 3:42Speaker 1: online at IFCJ dot org and you can get what
- 3:47Speaker 1: you need, the resources to stand with Israel on this
- 3:50Speaker 1: important day as we stand with them all over the country.
- 3:54Speaker 1: That's IFCJ dot org one more time, IFCJ dot org.
- 3:59Speaker 1: And you can also get your church involved, as so
- 4:01Speaker 1: many churches around the country are now doing this for
- 4:04Speaker 1: their entire congregations. IFCJ dot org. All right, so let's
- 4:10Speaker 1: go to just z point one here. You decided to
- 4:12Speaker 1: go on CNN. Now, what's interesting about this interview that
- 4:16Speaker 1: you did send her is actually the fact that you
- 4:19Speaker 1: guys were not in the same room. Typically, there's a
- 4:22Speaker 1: good chance you guys would have been. Caitlin was in
- 4:25Speaker 1: the UK for the presidential trip. There there was a
- 4:28Speaker 1: little bit of a delay. What was not delayed is
- 4:31Speaker 1: her anger at you and what you were saying, and
- 4:34Speaker 1: the yelling at you. Even across the pond. She's still
- 4:37Speaker 1: on point with that one.
- 4:39Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, Ben. For this kind of interview, I
- 4:41Speaker 3: will almost always insist that it be in person. Yeah,
- 4:45Speaker 3: because if I know that someone is going to be
- 4:47Speaker 3: an antagonistic partisan hack, then I want to be in
- 4:52Speaker 3: person to be able to fight back. I agreed to
- 4:54Speaker 3: do this even though she was in the United Kingdom
- 4:57Speaker 3: and there was about a two second delay, so it
- 4:59Speaker 3: made it hard. A downside of this interview is their
- 5:03Speaker 3: extended portions were basically yelling over each other because of
- 5:07Speaker 3: the delay. I actually thought she'd want to do a
- 5:10Speaker 3: decent interview, and so she wouldn't just scream at me.
- 5:13Speaker 3: If you've got a delay, you ask a question, you
- 5:16Speaker 3: get an answer. You ask another question, you get an answer.
- 5:19Speaker 3: That's how actually you and I have done interviews. We've
- 5:22Speaker 3: interviewed We've interviewed people live from Israel, from Jerusalem right
- 5:27Speaker 3: after October seventh, halfway around the world. We've managed to
- 5:30Speaker 3: do the interview. And if you actually want to interview someone,
- 5:34Speaker 3: you don't scream interrupt them. Well, Caitlin has been complicit
- 5:38Speaker 3: in seeing AND's propaganda. They have been misleading and lying
- 5:43Speaker 3: to the American people. And it's why I wanted to
- 5:46Speaker 3: do this. It's why I agreed to do this. She's
- 5:49Speaker 3: been asking me, her show has been asking me to
- 5:51Speaker 3: go on for some time. I've usually said no, no
- 5:53Speaker 3: thank you, no thank you, no thank you. I decided
- 5:56Speaker 3: to go on today because I think what they've been
- 5:58Speaker 3: doing after the Charlie Kirk assassination has been incredibly dishonest
- 6:03Speaker 3: and harmful. And I had hoped that we would have
- 6:07Speaker 3: a conversation as mature adults. Sadly we did not, And
- 6:11Speaker 3: so we're gonna play the whole thing.
- 6:12Speaker 1: One line that just people so they understand the lie
- 6:15Speaker 1: that's been told and it's been propping propaganda one oh
- 6:18Speaker 1: one on CNN is that we don't know the motive
- 6:20Speaker 1: of the shooter. And you're insane if.
- 6:24Speaker 3: We have no idea what motive? Who could know? Who
- 6:28Speaker 3: could not.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Across all of their shows, by the way, like all
- 6:30Speaker 1: of their shows are like, look.
- 6:31Speaker 3: It's idiosy, it is idiocy. So we're going to play
- 6:35Speaker 3: the entire interview. It is fairly lengthy, and there's some fireworks,
- 6:40Speaker 3: and there's some moments where we're yelling over each other.
- 6:42Speaker 3: But I think this is really important to push back
- 6:45Speaker 3: on the dishonesty from CNN and MSNBC and ABCNBCCBS and
- 6:50Speaker 3: and so give a listen my interview tonight with Camplon
- 6:54Speaker 3: Collins on.
- 6:55Speaker 4: CNN, and joining me now is Senator Ted Cruz. And
- 6:58Speaker 4: Senator I think you've probably been part of some theatrical
- 7:00Speaker 4: moments of your own and some of those hearings obviously
- 7:03Speaker 4: got quite contentious at points today. But what you were
- 7:06Speaker 4: arguing there and what you were talking there about with
- 7:08Speaker 4: the director Cash Wotel was actually something President Trump himself
- 7:12Speaker 4: talked about five years ago when he said the US
- 7:15Speaker 4: was going to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. You
- 7:18Speaker 4: and Senator Cassidy had actually introduced a resolution calling for
- 7:21Speaker 4: that one year before. Do you know why it didn't
- 7:24Speaker 4: happen then and do you expect it to happen now?
- 7:28Speaker 3: You know, I do think it's going to happen now,
- 7:29Speaker 3: and I'm urging the Department of Justice and the FBI
- 7:32Speaker 3: and the entire administration to do so. And more broadly,
- 7:35Speaker 3: what I'm urging them to do, and at the hearing
- 7:37Speaker 3: today what I urged Director Petel to do it is
- 7:40Speaker 3: follow the money. That much of this violence that we've
- 7:44Speaker 3: seen it is not organic, that there is real money
- 7:48Speaker 3: that is funding it. So the Black Lives Matter at
- 7:50Speaker 3: Antifa riots all over the country, there was real money
- 7:53Speaker 3: behind that. The anti Israel, anti Semitic riots on college campuses,
- 7:58Speaker 3: that there was real money behind that. The open border
- 8:01Speaker 3: riots we saw in LA and across the country, there's
- 8:03Speaker 3: real money behind that. I'm not the only person who
- 8:05Speaker 3: noticed that at the anti Semitic protests on college campuses,
- 8:10Speaker 3: many of the tents all matched. And so what I'm
- 8:12Speaker 3: urging the Department of Justice to do is look at
- 8:15Speaker 3: who's funding it. And indeed, I've introduced legislation to aid
- 8:19Speaker 3: in that. It's called the Stop Funders Act. And what
- 8:21Speaker 3: that legislation would do is very simple. It adds rioting
- 8:26Speaker 3: to the list of predicated offenses under RICO, and that
- 8:30Speaker 3: would enable the Department of Justice to use RICO a
- 8:32Speaker 3: very powerful tool for going after organized crime, not just
- 8:37Speaker 3: to go after the people committing specific acts of violence,
- 8:40Speaker 3: but to go after those who are writing checks to
- 8:43Speaker 3: foment that violence. And I think that would have a
- 8:46Speaker 3: massive effect pulling back and limiting this violence.
- 8:50Speaker 4: Yeah, but can I ask you on just the Antifa
- 8:52Speaker 4: part of this, What existing federal law would give the
- 8:55Speaker 4: president or the State Department the authority to be able
- 8:58Speaker 4: to designate a domestic group as a terrorist organization?
- 9:02Speaker 3: Is there one? Well, what I've called for, they're clearly
- 9:06Speaker 3: carrying out acts of terrorism, they're carrying them out domestically,
- 9:09Speaker 3: they're organizing their engage in direct acts of violence. And indeed,
- 9:13Speaker 3: one of the things that I asked Director Patel it
- 9:16Speaker 3: is what evidence is there that there are other people
- 9:19Speaker 3: who had four knowledge of this assassin's assassination of Charlie Kirk.
- 9:24Speaker 3: We know that he was engaged in Reddit conversations with others,
- 9:28Speaker 3: and we know that that the the shellcasings that he
- 9:32Speaker 3: used in the rifle had Antifa slogans on them and
- 9:35Speaker 3: had transgender slogans on them. And it appears from what's
- 9:39Speaker 3: been reporting that there were extensive discussions in various Reddit
- 9:44Speaker 3: and and discord organizations to the extent others had for
- 9:49Speaker 3: knowledge and aided and assisted that may well be a
- 9:52Speaker 3: manifestation of antifa violence or transgender violence. We've seen a
- 9:57Speaker 3: disproportionate incident of transgender violence as well, and and so
- 10:02Speaker 3: organizing examining what what groups potentially are behind these acts
- 10:07Speaker 3: of violence. I think it is overwhelmingly clear things like
- 10:10Speaker 3: the anti Semitic protest had money behind it. With respect
- 10:13Speaker 3: to Charlie Kirk's murder, that is not determined yet, but
- 10:16Speaker 3: I think it should be investigated.
- 10:17Speaker 4: Yeah, as Todd Blanche the Wyo Journal just said, right now,
- 10:22Speaker 4: they don't have any evidence of an organization. Obviously they're
- 10:25Speaker 4: still looking into this. But but on the bullet casings,
- 10:28Speaker 4: I don't remember there being a transgender one on there.
- 10:30Speaker 4: I remember him saying there was one that said if
- 10:32Speaker 4: you could read this year gay. It was referencing internet memes.
- 10:35Speaker 4: But on what you just said, they're about investigating.
- 10:37Speaker 3: There is hold on, hold on Kaitlyn, kait Caitlin, there
- 10:44Speaker 3: is a transgender there's a reference to, uh do you
- 10:48Speaker 3: see my bulge, which is, I'm told as an online
- 10:51Speaker 3: meme for transgenderism. And director Patel testified that at the
- 10:55Speaker 3: murderer here was living with his romantic partner who was
- 10:59Speaker 3: a transgender man transitioning to being a woman. And and
- 11:02Speaker 3: and so you have both the shell casing that directly
- 11:05Speaker 3: references transgenderism, and in fact, Charlie Kirk was murdered moments
- 11:09Speaker 3: after he was asked a question about transgender mass shootings,
- 11:13Speaker 3: and that's that's when the shooter filed and and so
- 11:17Speaker 3: do we have conclusive proof at this case, but I
- 11:20Speaker 3: will this Some of the most disturbing polling numbers I
- 11:23Speaker 3: see are the number of Democrats who believe this left
- 11:26Speaker 3: wing act of this was somehow republican. I mean that
- 11:29Speaker 3: that really shows the media not not doing the job
- 11:32Speaker 3: they should be doing.
- 11:33Speaker 4: Okay, Senator, but one moment, because you said a lot there,
- 11:38Speaker 4: and we don't have a motive yet, we don't know yet.
- 11:39Speaker 3: We're waiting.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Obviously we've heard what the governors had to say with the.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Course, we don't have a motive yet. We know, we
- 11:45Speaker 3: don't have a lot of yet. What's happening with really
- 11:47Speaker 3: that's position. He just happened to fire the gun and celebration.
- 11:53Speaker 3: You can't tell the motives, Senator, That's.
- 11:55Speaker 4: Not what I said. And I said, law enforcement hasn't
- 11:58Speaker 4: laid out a direct motive. They have a lot of
- 12:00Speaker 4: evidence here of these messages, and.
- 12:03Speaker 3: They said the left who hated Charlie Kirk, Senator, with
- 12:08Speaker 3: all due respect, you know exactly what I'm saying.
- 12:10Speaker 4: I'm not arguing with you politically. I'm saying that law
- 12:13Speaker 4: enforcement has not put a specific motive. You know that
- 12:15Speaker 4: there's a difference of what they're putting.
- 12:17Speaker 3: In illegal they have.
- 12:18Speaker 4: That's what you're talking about, and you're not even we're
- 12:20Speaker 4: not even about the fact that.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Is false, Senator, Caitly, Caitly fact. Hold on, let me
- 12:28Speaker 3: answer your statement because what you said, Istator, with all
- 12:30Speaker 3: due respect, law enforce respect your You don't want to
- 12:34Speaker 3: go ahead that I did.
- 12:35Speaker 4: Not say, and I want to get back to we
- 12:38Speaker 4: just laid out the fact that.
- 12:39Speaker 3: You just said law enforcement has not not made out.
- 12:41Speaker 4: Of motive that is the Deputy Attorney general.
- 12:44Speaker 3: That is objectively false.
- 12:46Speaker 4: They have not said motive what it.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Was and should not be engaged in this information. Caitlyn answered,
- 12:53Speaker 3: my question shows the vast majority of the we're taking
- 12:57Speaker 3: what I said this murderer Trump support. Have you seen
- 13:01Speaker 3: that polem.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Let me get back to my questions, though, Senator, because
- 13:03Speaker 4: the question here you're not going to answer that was
- 13:05Speaker 4: actually are you were saying about thetigations that you'd like
- 13:08Speaker 4: to see, so you're not gonna I'm the one asking
- 13:11Speaker 4: the questions here and the question.
- 13:14Speaker 3: Having a conversation. I understand that that that you want
- 13:17Speaker 3: to vestigate and then you don't believe that rights laid out. Okay,
- 13:24Speaker 3: give your speeches, go ahead. I don't know what your
- 13:29Speaker 3: question is because we have a delay because you're in England,
- 13:31Speaker 3: so I can't hear what you're saying.
- 13:33Speaker 4: You said that you believe that left wing groups should
- 13:36Speaker 4: be investigated. You want to know where the financing is
- 13:38Speaker 4: coming from for protests. Do you believe that they should
- 13:40Speaker 4: also be looking into right ruing groups as well, or
- 13:42Speaker 4: do you believe it should only be limited to that.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Look, I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should
- 13:48Speaker 3: be prosecuted and go to jail. But I will say
- 13:51Speaker 3: there has been an enormous amount and CNN has been
- 13:53Speaker 3: guilty of this of both sides, and I was saying, gosh,
- 13:56Speaker 3: both sides are violent, and understand, yes there is some
- 13:59Speaker 3: violence on both sides, but it is the left that
- 14:01Speaker 3: overwhelmingly celebrates this. It is leftists that have been celebrating.
- 14:05Speaker 3: You look at blue Sky and it is a cesspool
- 14:08Speaker 3: of leftists celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk. You look
- 14:12Speaker 3: at recent polling that it shows over fifty percent of
- 14:17Speaker 3: Democrats saying violence against Elon Musk has justified, violence against
- 14:20Speaker 3: Donald Trump is justified. You look at Democrats who do
- 14:24Speaker 3: things like what Kamala Harris did of giving money and
- 14:28Speaker 3: urging people to give money to bail out violent rioters
- 14:31Speaker 3: and Antifa riots. It is only one side that justifies
- 14:35Speaker 3: this violent violence. My view is if you commit acts
- 14:38Speaker 3: of violence, you should be prosecuted, and so yes, we
- 14:43Speaker 3: should follow the money. Anyone funding acts of violence we
- 14:46Speaker 3: should go after. But this is a left wing problem.
- 14:50Speaker 4: How can you argue that it's I think the argument
- 14:52Speaker 4: that people have been talking about recently is what's going
- 14:55Speaker 4: on with the Charlie Kirk case. I think people have
- 14:57Speaker 4: raised that because there have been other acts of political
- 14:59Speaker 4: violence as well when it comes to targeting Democrats. I mean,
- 15:03Speaker 4: we've seen that with a lawmaker who was killed in
- 15:05Speaker 4: Minnesota this summer alongside her husband.
- 15:07Speaker 3: We've seen it with the police break the assassin. There
- 15:10Speaker 3: was a ranged the assassin with Hold on a second.
- 15:13Speaker 3: If you if you're gonna say facts, get you need
- 15:16Speaker 3: to get your facts right. The assassin there was not
- 15:19Speaker 3: a right wing assassin acting on a political motive. The assassin.
- 15:22Speaker 3: There was someone who had been an appointee of Tim Waltz,
- 15:26Speaker 3: and he was a deranged lunatic. And yes, there are
- 15:28Speaker 3: deranged lunatics who attack people both right and left, But
- 15:32Speaker 3: if you look at murders carried out for political agendas,
- 15:36Speaker 3: they are overwhelmingly on the left. Whether it is the
- 15:39Speaker 3: assassination of Charlie Kirk, the two assassination attempts of Donald Trump,
- 15:43Speaker 3: the assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh over and over and
- 15:47Speaker 3: over again, whether it was the congressional shooter who came
- 15:50Speaker 3: to Washington to the baseball game and said, I want
- 15:53Speaker 3: to find the compressional republic. Of those two attenstes, it is.
- 16:01Speaker 4: The Democratic lawmakers who were targeted just a couple of
- 16:05Speaker 4: months ago. So I think that is the point that
- 16:07Speaker 4: people have made.
- 16:08Speaker 3: But it wasn't republican political And by the way, that
- 16:11Speaker 3: lunatic should be prosecuted and go to jail. So what
- 16:14Speaker 3: I'm not doing is what leftist are doing. Leftists are
- 16:18Speaker 3: celebrating that murder. I think the murder in Minnesota was horrible.
- 16:21Speaker 3: It was horrible, and that and that that violent criminal
- 16:24Speaker 3: should be prosecuted and going to jail. You would have
- 16:27Speaker 3: a point if I said, gosh, let's set up a
- 16:29Speaker 3: bail fund for that murderer, then you'd have a point.
- 16:31Speaker 3: But but it's only one side that is doing that.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Do you agree that on Blue Sky there are thousands
- 16:38Speaker 3: of leftists celebrating and reveling in the murder of Charlie.
- 16:41Speaker 4: Kirk, Senator. I don't think that anyone should separate regardless
- 16:47Speaker 4: of what that person. No one should representative of how
- 16:52Speaker 4: people feel. If you celebrate it, I think that's wrong,
- 16:54Speaker 4: and I think that's it's it's only left wingers are
- 16:58Speaker 4: on it.
- 16:59Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that that was just one of
- 17:02Speaker 1: moments where she's like and we're done, like like it's over,
- 17:07Speaker 1: we're done.
- 17:07Speaker 2: We're just gonna move on past this.
- 17:10Speaker 1: And I'm glad you, by the way, didn't let up
- 17:11Speaker 1: on the facts there at the end, because you're absolutely
- 17:13Speaker 1: right about this.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Look I got to say, and that there was a time.
- 17:18Speaker 3: I mean, Caitlin started out as a reporter for National Review.
- 17:22Speaker 3: She didn't used to She's from Alabama, she didn't used
- 17:25Speaker 3: to be insane, and.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Now like a roll tied I think she's rolled ted
- 17:29Speaker 2: if I remember.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Correctly, she is and she got hired by CNN, and
- 17:35Speaker 3: I don't know if she drank the kool aid. I
- 17:38Speaker 3: don't know if she just sold out, but her unwillingness. Okay,
- 17:43Speaker 3: So number one, When I asked her, have you seen
- 17:46Speaker 3: the polling that the vast majority of Democrats believe that
- 17:51Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's assassin was a right wing maga Republican. She
- 17:55Speaker 3: would not answer that question. The answer is yes, she
- 17:58Speaker 3: has seen that. She knows that, but she wouldn't answer
- 18:01Speaker 3: it because the reason that the vast majority of Democrats
- 18:05Speaker 3: believe that is because CNN is lying to them, MSNBC
- 18:08Speaker 3: is lying to them, the corporate media is lying to them,
- 18:11Speaker 3: and it goes right to the heart of their propaganda.
- 18:14Speaker 3: They are deceiving people. She wouldn't answer that. When I
- 18:17Speaker 3: asked her, are you aware that on blue Sky?
- 18:19Speaker 5: Now?
- 18:19Speaker 3: Blue Sky is this sort of left wing Twitter that
- 18:22Speaker 3: they set up to say, let's just have lefties communicate.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Blue Sky is this cesspool of leftists celebrating this murder?
- 18:30Speaker 3: I asked her, do you know that she knows that
- 18:33Speaker 3: that is not a surprise to her. But if she
- 18:36Speaker 3: admitted that she would have to admit that this is
- 18:40Speaker 3: not the fault of both sides, of Republicans and Democrats.
- 18:44Speaker 3: It is leftists who are rationalizing this, who are justifying this,
- 18:48Speaker 3: who are celebrating this. And by the way, it was
- 18:51Speaker 3: fascinating at the end, she just cut it off. Done,
- 18:53Speaker 3: ted Cruz be quiet. A point that I was going
- 18:57Speaker 3: to make. There's also a real, real difference between how
- 19:00Speaker 3: the left and right reacts when something like this happens.
- 19:04Speaker 3: When George Floyd was killed, yep, leftists rioted all over
- 19:09Speaker 3: this country. They fire bombed police cars. At least nineteen
- 19:14Speaker 3: people were killed in Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots
- 19:19Speaker 3: all over the country. In contrast, when Charlie Kirk was
- 19:22Speaker 3: killed a great American, what did conservatives do. We held
- 19:27Speaker 3: prayer vigils.
- 19:27Speaker 2: We stood up and we.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Held candles, and we prayed, and we honored his life.
- 19:32Speaker 3: And by the way, left wing radicals came and tried
- 19:35Speaker 3: to disrupt those prayer vigils by screaming and yelling and
- 19:38Speaker 3: engaging in acts of violence. There is a difference, and
- 19:42Speaker 3: CNN is all in in propaganda and denying that difference.
- 19:47Speaker 1: All right, I want to take a moment to talk
- 19:49Speaker 1: about personal safety. You guys know I'm pro Second Amendment.
- 19:52Speaker 1: You know that I've actually used my firearm to save
- 19:54Speaker 1: my life when i was a target of a gang initiation.
- 19:58Speaker 1: But for many people that are listing or family members,
- 20:01Speaker 1: you may not feel comfortable caring if firearm. You still
- 20:04Speaker 1: need to be able to protect yourselves and in times
- 20:07Speaker 1: of danger, you're gonna want to have something. And that's
- 20:09Speaker 1: where the Burno Launcher comes in. I have given these
- 20:12Speaker 1: to countless family members. It is a handheld pistol that
- 20:16Speaker 1: fires both kinetic rounds and chemical irritants to separate you
- 20:20Speaker 1: from an attacker.
- 20:21Speaker 2: And I'm here today with Josh Gerard from Burna.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Josh, many of us just saw that video footage of
- 20:27Speaker 1: the recent mob attack of a man and a woman
- 20:29Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati. Josh, many of us saw the video
- 20:32Speaker 1: footage of the recent mob attack of a man and
- 20:35Speaker 1: a woman in downtown Cincinnati and it was shocking. Can
- 20:38Speaker 1: you share a little more about what happened and could
- 20:40Speaker 1: a less lethal weapon like the Burno Launcher be used
- 20:43Speaker 1: in a situation like this to defend yourself?
- 20:46Speaker 5: Absolutely? Like you said, we all saw the videos and unfortunately,
- 20:49Speaker 5: after a jazz festival. A man was attacked by a
- 20:52Speaker 5: mob of individuals that just continued going and continued going,
- 20:56Speaker 5: and unfortunately he was unable to defend himself despite other
- 20:59Speaker 5: people trying to help. This is one of those instances
- 21:02Speaker 5: where clearly these people are looking for an easy target.
- 21:05Speaker 5: The trick here is to make yourself a hard target,
- 21:08Speaker 5: have a way to defend yourself to facilitate that escape.
- 21:11Speaker 5: And that's really where burna comes in. You know, depending
- 21:13Speaker 5: on the legality, you may or may not be able
- 21:15Speaker 5: to carry a gun in this case, so you need
- 21:17Speaker 5: to have a tool to make sure you can defend yourself.
- 21:19Speaker 5: This legal in all fifty states, and make sure you
- 21:22Speaker 5: can make it home safe.
- 21:23Speaker 1: And why wouldn't the victim in this case just want
- 21:25Speaker 1: to pull a gun on these suspects.
- 21:27Speaker 2: It's an important question, you.
- 21:28Speaker 5: Know, it absolutely is, and there's a couple of reasons.
- 21:31Speaker 5: One is the legality. Depending on where you are, you
- 21:34Speaker 5: may not even be able to carry a gun, or
- 21:35Speaker 5: maybe coming from a private event where a gun may
- 21:38Speaker 5: not be illegal as well. And then two, in order
- 21:42Speaker 5: to pull a gun, you need to understand that there
- 21:44Speaker 5: has to be a reasonable expectation that there's going to
- 21:46Speaker 5: be death or serious buddle injury caused. Do you pull
- 21:48Speaker 5: that gun too early and you're likely the one to
- 21:50Speaker 5: be going to jail. So in this case, a less
- 21:53Speaker 5: legal tool is perfect. It can be pulled early. It
- 21:56Speaker 5: can be used early to prevent further harm because it's
- 22:00Speaker 5: such a reduced amount of force.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Look, if you want to carry one, I do. I
- 22:04Speaker 2: love having this as an option.
- 22:06Speaker 1: You can get more information for you or your family
- 22:09Speaker 1: members on how they can protect themselves with the burner launcher.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Go to burnaby RNA dot com. That's burner by RNA
- 22:17Speaker 1: dot com. Again, burna by RNA dot com. And by
- 22:22Speaker 1: the way, senator, let's let's also go to the other lie.
- 22:25Speaker 1: And you mentioned all of the things that conservatives do
- 22:28Speaker 1: differently than liberals. There was a list, by the way
- 22:31Speaker 1: that went viral. I do want to bring it up
- 22:32Speaker 1: real quick. There's a great list put out and it
- 22:34Speaker 1: said when when Democrats are angry, you get BLM riots, ANTIFA,
- 22:38Speaker 1: church shootings, Trump assassination, chimp, Charlie Kirk assassination, pro life
- 22:42Speaker 1: pregnancy centers are put on fire, TESLA vandalism, attacks against
- 22:46Speaker 1: ice agents at tax against police, attacks against federal courthouses,
- 22:50Speaker 1: and This is just merely a partial list. And what
- 22:53Speaker 1: happens when we are attacked we have prayer visuals and
- 22:57Speaker 1: we clean up profanity that is put on Britain. Is
- 23:00Speaker 1: by the way, you went viral for that, well done.
- 23:02Speaker 1: We didn't even mention that earlier. I for Pere, they
- 23:06Speaker 1: don't know what happened.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Sunday.
- 23:08Speaker 1: We did our show and then you saw online. I'm
- 23:12Speaker 1: assuming we haven't even talked about this online. I think
- 23:15Speaker 1: you must have seen the picture that someone had put
- 23:17Speaker 1: up on one of the overpasses not far from where
- 23:19Speaker 1: you live and I live, Charlie Kirk, and you just
- 23:23Speaker 1: said all right, I'm gonna go paint over it, and
- 23:25Speaker 1: you did it and then put it on the internet.
- 23:27Speaker 3: Yeah, it pissed me off. This was on Highway fifty
- 23:31Speaker 3: nine in Houston, right in the middle of Houston. Where
- 23:33Speaker 3: this happened was about a mile from my house. It
- 23:36Speaker 3: was very close from where I live. It was at
- 23:38Speaker 3: fifty nine and Shepherd for anyone from Houston, it was
- 23:40Speaker 3: right at the Shepherd exit. And I saw on Twitter
- 23:44Speaker 3: the image of someone had spray painted F Charlie Kirk
- 23:47Speaker 3: and they did not abbreviate F, and it just it
- 23:50Speaker 3: pissed me off. I mean, Charlie was a friend of mine.
- 23:53Speaker 3: He was an extraordinary person, and that kind of hate
- 23:56Speaker 3: was wrong. And so I decided I just that after
- 24:00Speaker 3: I went down. I could tell where it was from
- 24:04Speaker 3: from the highway sign. And I went down with with
- 24:06Speaker 3: some paint and a roller, and I just covered it
- 24:09Speaker 3: up and I and I painted over it and I
- 24:11Speaker 3: erased it, and and and and then I put out
- 24:13Speaker 3: the pictures and I said, look, some some uh despicable
- 24:17Speaker 3: bastard put this up. Uh and and and and I've
- 24:21Speaker 3: covered it up text out the Texts Department Transportation has
- 24:24Speaker 3: been notified. Uh, they will almost surely remove this expeditiously.
- 24:29Speaker 3: But I've removed it now so that not another text
- 24:32Speaker 3: in fifty nine is a very busy freeway. So there
- 24:35Speaker 3: there are thousands or in time millions of people that
- 24:38Speaker 3: are driving up and down fifty nine. I didn't want
- 24:40Speaker 3: them to look at that message, and so I just
- 24:42Speaker 3: covered it up in white paint. And when text dot
- 24:44Speaker 3: removes it, great uh. And And you know, I will
- 24:48Speaker 3: say that went viral. I got a lot of folks
- 24:50Speaker 3: who texted me and and and said thank you for
- 24:53Speaker 3: doing that. And I got to say. My response to
- 24:55Speaker 3: all of them was just that it needed to be done,
- 24:58Speaker 3: that this was grotesque and we needed to just cover
- 25:02Speaker 3: it up and say that this is not okay.
- 25:06Speaker 1: I want to move to the text messages that have
- 25:09Speaker 1: come out, and it's very interesting to see all of
- 25:12Speaker 1: the evidence that is now we are seeing the transparency
- 25:16Speaker 1: of these text messages that were between the shooter and
- 25:20Speaker 1: his transgendered boyfriend. And I also want to say, there's
- 25:25Speaker 1: some people that are saying, oh, you're taking this hook
- 25:28Speaker 1: line and sinker. I don't know if they plan the
- 25:30Speaker 1: text messages. I don't know if this is him trying
- 25:32Speaker 1: to protect the roommate and act like the roommate knew
- 25:34Speaker 1: nothing about it.
- 25:35Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of that.
- 25:37Speaker 1: But what was shocking about this is how the media
- 25:41Speaker 1: decided to play it and romanticize their relationship through the
- 25:47Speaker 1: text messages and the weirdest, creepiest way I've ever seen
- 25:50Speaker 1: the mainstream media do this.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going
- 25:54Speaker 3: to read you these text messages because they're horrifying. But
- 25:56Speaker 3: it makes clear there is no doubt that this murderer
- 26:01Speaker 3: is guilty. And by the way, there is a reason
- 26:04Speaker 3: I won't say the murderer's name, because anyone who engages
- 26:07Speaker 3: in a mass murderer and horrific crime like this. Part
- 26:10Speaker 3: of the reason they do this is they want to
- 26:12Speaker 3: be famous. I don't repeat these bastards name. I will
- 26:15Speaker 3: call him the murderer or the assassin or the defendant,
- 26:17Speaker 3: but I will not say his name. But the murderer
- 26:21Speaker 3: and his boyfriend we're exchanging, exchanging texts, and and the
- 26:26Speaker 3: murderer left under a keyboard in their apartment a note
- 26:30Speaker 3: saying that he had the opportunity to kill Charlie Kirk and.
- 26:33Speaker 2: He took it.
- 26:35Speaker 3: And and is his boyfriend, who is a man who
- 26:40Speaker 3: is transgender and transitioning to be a woman, responded what
- 26:44Speaker 3: with like a whole bunch of question marks? And you're joking, right,
- 26:49Speaker 3: And and here's the exchange. The murderer says, I'm still okay,
- 26:53Speaker 3: my love, but I'm stuck in orum for a little while.
- 26:55Speaker 3: Longer shouldn't be long until I can come home. But
- 26:58Speaker 3: I got to grab my right rifle still. To be honest,
- 27:02Speaker 3: I had hoped to keep this secret till I died
- 27:04Speaker 3: of old age. I'm sorry to involve you boyfriend, you
- 27:09Speaker 3: weren't the one who did it, right for question marks, murderer,
- 27:14Speaker 3: I am, I'm sorry, boyfriend. I thought they caught the
- 27:20Speaker 3: person murderer. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then
- 27:25Speaker 3: interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab
- 27:29Speaker 3: my rifle from the drop point shortly after, but most
- 27:33Speaker 3: of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet,
- 27:36Speaker 3: almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering, Boyfriend.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Why murderer? Why did I do it? Boyfriend? Yeah, murderer.
- 27:49Speaker 3: I've had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be
- 27:52Speaker 3: negotiated out. If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen,
- 27:57Speaker 3: I will have left no evidence. Going to a to
- 28:00Speaker 3: retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't
- 28:03Speaker 3: seen anything about them finding it. Boyfriend. How long have
- 28:08Speaker 3: you been planning this, murderer, a bit over a week.
- 28:12Speaker 2: I believe I can.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Get close to it, but there is a squad car
- 28:15Speaker 3: parked by it. I think they already swept the spot,
- 28:19Speaker 3: but I don't want to chance it. Murderer. I wish
- 28:23Speaker 3: I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as
- 28:25Speaker 3: I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old
- 28:28Speaker 3: man would do if I didn't bring back Grandpa's rifle.
- 28:32Speaker 3: I don't know if it had a serial number, but
- 28:35Speaker 3: it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about Prince. I
- 28:38Speaker 3: had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits,
- 28:42Speaker 3: didn't have the ability or time to bring it with
- 28:45Speaker 3: I might have to abandon it and hope they don't
- 28:47Speaker 3: find prints. How the f will I explain losing it
- 28:51Speaker 3: to my old man. Only thing I left was the
- 28:55Speaker 3: rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how I was engraving bullets.
- 29:00Speaker 3: The effing messages are mostly a big meme. If I
- 29:04Speaker 3: see notices Bulg's UWU on Fox News, I might have
- 29:10Speaker 3: a stroke. All right, I'm gonna have to leave it.
- 29:13Speaker 3: That really efing sucks. Those are the text exchanges now
- 29:18Speaker 3: number one. Reading those text exchanges, it is one hundred
- 29:22Speaker 3: percent clear. It's not ninety nine percent. It's not ninety
- 29:24Speaker 3: eight percent. It's one hundred percent clear. This defendant is
- 29:29Speaker 3: the murderer. He is the assassin. He is confessing to
- 29:33Speaker 3: his boyfriend, I did it. He is confessing details of
- 29:37Speaker 3: the crime that only the murderer would know. He will
- 29:41Speaker 3: be convicted. He was charged today he will be convicted,
- 29:45Speaker 3: but he is guilty today based on that evidence, it
- 29:47Speaker 3: is one hundred percent certainly he is guilty, and his
- 29:51Speaker 3: motive is clear. You know, Caitlin Collins and CNN and
- 29:55Speaker 3: MSNBC they say, we don't know the motive. Maybe he
- 29:59Speaker 3: just dislike tall people. Maybe he was just you know,
- 30:04Speaker 3: firing his gun and celebration and it accidentally hit the throne.
- 30:07Speaker 1: A certainly somebody that was there excited just to see
- 30:10Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and it went off randomly like.
- 30:12Speaker 3: The level of him. By the way, an idiot commentator
- 30:15Speaker 3: at MSNBC said, maybe it was a supporter of Charlie
- 30:18Speaker 3: Kirk firing his gun and celebration. Now thankfully that commentator
- 30:21Speaker 3: got fired for that idiocy. But the motive is absolutely clear.
- 30:28Speaker 3: He hated Charlie Kirk. He's a left wing ANTIFA activist,
- 30:32Speaker 3: he's a transgender activist. He is sleeping with a transgender
- 30:36Speaker 3: man who is transitioning to be a woman, and so
- 30:40Speaker 3: the motive is that there's no ambiguity. But CNN hates
- 30:43Speaker 3: that motive. They cannot admit that's what happened. Oh my goodness,
- 30:47Speaker 3: that would undermine their entire political agenda. So they desperately
- 30:51Speaker 3: have to say the motive is unclear. By the way,
- 30:53Speaker 3: Caitlyn Collins said repeatedly, well, law enforcement hasn't laid out
- 30:56Speaker 3: the motive. Yes, they have. They repeatedly laid out the motive.
- 30:59Speaker 3: They said it's a left wing activist was radicalized. The
- 31:02Speaker 3: bullets had carved on the mantifa and transgender messages. I mean,
- 31:06Speaker 3: this is not subtle. He was not hiding his motive.
- 31:09Speaker 3: But I have to say, as repulsive as CNN's reaction was,
- 31:15Speaker 3: ABC's was worse. I want you to listen way worse,
- 31:19Speaker 3: way worse. Like you can't overstate it, Okay, I want
- 31:23Speaker 3: you to listen to ABC News's reaction to this text
- 31:27Speaker 3: exchange between the murderer and his transgender boyfriend. Here, give
- 31:31Speaker 3: a listen.
- 31:33Speaker 6: You have seen an alleged murder with such specific text
- 31:38Speaker 6: messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hitting,
- 31:42Speaker 6: how it was placed, what was on it.
- 31:43Speaker 7: But also it was very touching in a way that
- 31:46Speaker 7: I think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate
- 31:48Speaker 7: tortrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the
- 31:53Speaker 7: suspect himself with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning,
- 31:59Speaker 7: calling him my and I want to protect you, my love.
- 32:02Speaker 7: So was this duality of someone who, the attorney said,
- 32:05Speaker 7: not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd,
- 32:08Speaker 7: but was doing it in front of children, which is
- 32:10Speaker 7: one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on
- 32:12Speaker 7: the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner,
- 32:16Speaker 7: so very interesting, as Pierre said, riveting press conference, David.
- 32:20Speaker 1: I love how they say it's a riveting press conference center.
- 32:23Speaker 1: It's riveting and just you know, he referred to him
- 32:26Speaker 1: as my love, and this is just so sweet and sincere.
- 32:28Speaker 1: It's like, what in the world are you guys doing
- 32:31Speaker 1: over there at ABC News with your special report, live.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Coverage, touching and loving? Oh these text messages. I murdered
- 32:40Speaker 3: this person for you, Oh my love, Oh my love. Patter,
- 32:43Speaker 3: pitter patter. That is repulsive. It is repulsive that ABC
- 32:49Speaker 3: News is gushing over this psychopathic murderer and ABC News,
- 32:55Speaker 3: oh they're touching in sweet text messages. He is confessing
- 32:59Speaker 3: to a deliberate murder because he hates what somebody is saying.
- 33:04Speaker 3: He murdered a husband, he murdered, a father of two
- 33:06Speaker 3: little kids, one boy, one girl, and ABC News thinks
- 33:11Speaker 3: it's so sweet that he confessed to his transgender boyfriend,
- 33:16Speaker 3: which of course they call his roommate, even though he's
- 33:18Speaker 3: calling him my love, Like there's no ambiguity when you
- 33:22Speaker 3: call someone my love what exactly the relationship is? But
- 33:26Speaker 3: ABC News cannot admit to them it is sweet and beautiful,
- 33:34Speaker 3: this radical leftist murdering Charlie Kirk I got, I got
- 33:37Speaker 3: a message for you guys. It's not sweet and it's
- 33:40Speaker 3: not beautiful.
- 33:41Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, side note on this, I don't
- 33:43Speaker 1: know if you knew this, but ten minutes after that,
- 33:46Speaker 1: like the internet exploded over it. They he went back
- 33:50Speaker 1: on and doubled down on it and basically did the
- 33:53Speaker 1: same thing again. Like, I'm not backing down from this.
- 33:56Speaker 1: I think it's genuine and sweet and sincere in a
- 33:58Speaker 1: love story.
- 34:00Speaker 3: You know what a romantic Romeo and Juliet story. You know,
- 34:04Speaker 3: psycho leftist murderer killing people because he's filled with hate.
- 34:07Speaker 3: I can't think of anything more beautiful than that. Certain
- 34:10Speaker 3: certainly ABC News is very persuasive in that regard.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it he'll be the face of the network before
- 34:15Speaker 2: you know.
- 34:15Speaker 3: It, God help us. Did he really double down? Did
- 34:19Speaker 3: he really go back on air and do it again?
- 34:21Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 34:21Speaker 1: Yes, Do you want to hear it, because I've got
- 34:23Speaker 1: it if you want to hear So this is yes,
- 34:25Speaker 1: this is this is Matt Gouman.
- 34:26Speaker 3: I haven't heard this, so play it for us.
- 34:28Speaker 1: So this is ten minutes after he said on ABC
- 34:31Speaker 1: News Live. It's heartbreaking on so many levels. Obviously, Charlie
- 34:35Speaker 1: Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd of thousands.
- 34:38Speaker 1: On the other hand, there is this duality of every
- 34:40Speaker 1: portrait of a of a again his exact words of
- 34:44Speaker 1: a very like this is like love story.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Yeah, touching. So this is this is ten minutes.
- 34:50Speaker 1: Later after the internet And I'm I have no doubt
- 34:53Speaker 1: that he knew that there was a problem, right, So
- 34:55Speaker 1: he knew hundred percent, one hundred percent.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Here he is ten minutes later.
- 35:00Speaker 6: It is It's heartbreaking on so many levels, Kira. Obviously,
- 35:03Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd
- 35:06Speaker 6: of thousands of people who watched him being shot through
- 35:09Speaker 6: the neck and then essentially bleed out in front of
- 35:11Speaker 6: him and I think one of the things that the
- 35:13Speaker 6: attorney here made a very fine point about is that
- 35:16Speaker 6: a lot of these charges seven charges were aggravated because
- 35:20Speaker 6: children were present, children witnessed this, children were put in
- 35:24Speaker 6: harm's way, and that was.
- 35:26Speaker 2: Something that obviously is aggravating here.
- 35:27Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons that this suspect, in
- 35:29Speaker 6: addition to the alleged murder being political in nature, is
- 35:33Speaker 6: facing the death penalty. They're going for the death penalty.
- 35:36Speaker 6: And on the other hand, there is this duality of
- 35:38Speaker 6: a very a portrait of a very human person, a
- 35:42Speaker 6: very human experience from this entire family, as you mentioned it,
- 35:45Speaker 6: the mother who essentially discovered that it was her son
- 35:49Speaker 6: who had done this, the kid who had got a
- 35:51Speaker 6: thirty four out of thirty six on the acts, who
- 35:54Speaker 6: had a four point zero, who got a full ride
- 35:56Speaker 6: to college here that that kid was the one who
- 35:58Speaker 6: allegedly perpetrated He saw those pictures and said identified him essentially.
- 36:03Speaker 6: And then those text messages, And I don't think I've
- 36:05Speaker 6: ever experienced a press conference in which we've read text
- 36:08Speaker 6: messages that are as fulsome so robust, so apparently allegedly
- 36:12Speaker 6: self incriminating, and yet on the other hand, so touching
- 36:15Speaker 6: right with the suspect reaching out to his roommate who
- 36:19Speaker 6: is allegedly his boyfriend, who we understand, you know, identified
- 36:24Speaker 6: as male at birth now identifies as female, and the
- 36:28Speaker 6: terminology he used. He was trying to protect him. He
- 36:30Speaker 6: kept calling him my love, My reason for doing this
- 36:33Speaker 6: is to protect you, you know, but also asking him
- 36:36Speaker 6: to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement.
- 36:39Speaker 6: So there's this this heartbreaking duality that we're seeing very
- 36:43Speaker 6: tragically playing out.
- 36:45Speaker 3: If that's not doubling down, I don't know what is
- 36:48Speaker 3: fullsome touching loving Yeah it is.
- 36:52Speaker 2: I am breaking.
- 36:55Speaker 3: Look, I don't know who this particular reporter is, but
- 36:58Speaker 3: but I will say it's it says something that this
- 37:02Speaker 3: speaks to him in such a touching, moving way. I
- 37:06Speaker 3: see depraved maniacs who just committed cold blood and murder,
- 37:11Speaker 3: and and his boyfriend, his boyfriend is like not saying,
- 37:14Speaker 3: dear God, what the hell.
- 37:15Speaker 6: Did you do?
- 37:16Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like, oh, oh it was you, okay,
- 37:20Speaker 3: you know, And he didn't. The boyfriend never said there
- 37:23Speaker 3: is anything wrong with murdering Charlie Kirk. He was perfectly
- 37:26Speaker 3: fine with it. There ain't not nothing touching about these
- 37:29Speaker 3: two psychopaths reveling in their cold blood and murder, and
- 37:33Speaker 3: for ABC to think it is that that really tells
- 37:36Speaker 3: you how messed up ABC is.
- 37:37Speaker 1: By the way, I'd be very interesting to see if
- 37:39Speaker 1: ABC tries to walk this back, if it comes out
- 37:41Speaker 1: with those textansges where I cover your ass moment to
- 37:44Speaker 1: try to save the boyfriend roommate, I will be very
- 37:47Speaker 1: interesting to see.
- 37:48Speaker 2: How they manage that. Don't forget.
- 37:50Speaker 1: We do the show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and we
- 37:52Speaker 1: do the show to talk about these types of things
- 37:55Speaker 1: and what the media is doing and exposing it.
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