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Truckers Stand With Trump, Boycotting NYC Shipments · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Screw around and find out. That is now what pro
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Speaker 1: Trump American truck drivers are now saying about boycotting New
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Speaker 1: York City after the civil fraud case against Donald Trump. There,
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Speaker 1: many of the Trump supporting truckers are saying they are
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Speaker 1: now refusing to transport loads to and from New York
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Speaker 1: City after the former president was fined more than the
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Speaker 1: GDP of some small countries in the world. He was
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Speaker 1: fined three hundred and fifty five million dollars as well
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Speaker 1: as as well as has his ability.
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Speaker 2: To run businesses in the States suspended, and that Friday
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Speaker 2: civil fraud verdict.
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Speaker 1: Now to be clear, this verdict against Donald Trump will
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Speaker 1: be appealed.
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Speaker 2: But what we know is you had an.
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Speaker 1: Activist da who ran on putting Donald Trump in jail,
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Speaker 1: saying I'm coming after Trump if you elect me. You
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Speaker 1: also had a judge there wearly hated Donald Trump and
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Speaker 1: his antics were like off of a TV show, a sitcom,
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Speaker 1: like The Office.
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Speaker 2: It was embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: This, however, has roal ramifications for the Trump family. And
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Speaker 1: what this means is if you're a conservative, you are
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Speaker 1: now being put on notice in New York City that
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Speaker 1: they will come after you if you do something they
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Speaker 1: don't like. They don't need, by the way, anyone to
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Speaker 1: actually be defrauded.
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Speaker 2: In fact, the banks that did business with.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump testified in his defense at this trial and
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Speaker 1: said that there was nothing the farious that went on.
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Speaker 1: They were there to defend Donald Trump, and no one
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Speaker 1: was defrauded in this case. There was no victims in
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Speaker 1: this case because everything was paid back in full the
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Speaker 1: exact way that the business was done correctly.
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Speaker 2: That didn't matter.
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Speaker 1: So the question now becomes who gets the three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty five.
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Speaker 2: Million dollar fine.
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Speaker 1: In theory, who not victims because no one was defrauded.
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Speaker 1: The state, however, is trying to bankrupt Donald Trump, and
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Speaker 1: name is Chaquez I Go Ray. He posts a video
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Speaker 1: to x formerly known as Twitter following the verdict, sharing
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Speaker 1: that he and many others of his colleagues on the
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Speaker 1: road are now declining New York City delivery jobs due
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Speaker 1: to the Manhattan Judge is ruling. Now, many of you
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Speaker 1: may not realize that many eighteen will drivers they go
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Speaker 1: on job boards and they find loads to run from
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Speaker 1: one city to another so you can be choosy. And
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Speaker 1: what they're now advocating for is letting New York City
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Speaker 1: hurt because of their political bias towards conservatives. I want
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Speaker 1: you to hear what this truck driver had to say
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Speaker 1: in his own words.
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Speaker 3: I've been on the radio talking to drivers for about
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Speaker 3: the less hour hour fifteen minutes and I'm talking to
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Speaker 3: at least ten drivers going the other way.
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Speaker 2: I'm heading down from Soutain.
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Speaker 3: Wisconsin, and uh, they're gonna start refusing loads in New
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Speaker 3: York City starting on Monday, all right. I got about
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Speaker 3: three drivers that I drive with they're ready fabr to
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Speaker 3: boss and told them they ain't going to New York City.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know, uh how far across the country
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Speaker 3: disease or how many truckers are gonna start denying loads
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Speaker 3: going to New York City.
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Speaker 1: Now the big question is, now, will this gain steam.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a very good chance that those that.
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Speaker 1: Are pro Trump truckers are going to unite and they're
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Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, we're not gonna do this. One of
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Speaker 1: the reasons why it's really hard already to get an
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Speaker 1: eighteen wheeler load into Manhattan, into New York City. So
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Speaker 1: many of them are saying, hey, this actually makes our
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Speaker 1: lives even easier. We don't have to deal with New York,
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Speaker 1: especially if you're trying to destroy Donald Trump. At the
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Speaker 1: same time, here's the second part of what he said about, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm not wishing ill will on the people in general,
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Speaker 1: but if this is who you're electing and this is
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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, we're gonna respond.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you I don't wish nothing on nobody.
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Speaker 3: But by what I'm hearing, this is real. You know
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Speaker 3: we'll see. But you know, leave Trump alone, all right,
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Speaker 3: you know he you know you ain't got Trump.
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Speaker 2: So cut the book. Now.
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Speaker 1: Look this guy here basically saying screw around and find
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Speaker 1: out after this video he put up on X it
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Speaker 1: went viral. He also went on to say, and this
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Speaker 1: is his words on X. He said, I've been on
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Speaker 1: the radio now for hours. I talked to these truckers
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Speaker 1: are going to refuse loads on Monday for New York City.
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Speaker 1: I talked to three guys that I work with who
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Speaker 1: texted the Boston told him no in New York City.
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Speaker 1: He then went on to say, truckers are ninety five
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Speaker 1: percent Trump.
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Speaker 2: I'll get overturned.
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Speaker 1: It'll get overturned on appeal, he says, referring to this
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Speaker 1: court case. But you know how blankingheard is it to
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Speaker 1: get one of these blankers into New York City?
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Speaker 2: Cut the blank I'll see y'all down the road.
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Speaker 1: This video has now been seen six point four million
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Speaker 1: times since he put it up on X, and what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing from the comments is exactly what he said.
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Speaker 2: Those that are identifying as truck.
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Speaker 1: Drivers making it very very clear, extremely clear that they
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Speaker 1: are going to say to New York City, if this
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Speaker 1: is how you're going to treat the former president, units
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Speaker 1: it to America and you're going on a good luck
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Speaker 1: getting what you need into your city. Now, obviously there's
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Speaker 1: two things that could happen one, the cost of goods
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Speaker 1: could go up, and two, they may have to increase
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Speaker 1: the price that they're willing to pay for those loads
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Speaker 1: into New York City if this holds or expands.
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Speaker 2: If that is the case, we'll be put in.
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Speaker 1: A very very interesting situation for not only New York City,
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Speaker 1: but also for the Biden administration to see what their
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Speaker 1: response is. This is now where we are. It is
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Speaker 1: truly shocking to see it this way. I think it
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Speaker 1: is very very awesome, amazing that these truck drivers and
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Speaker 1: many truck drivers listen to this show. And I want
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Speaker 1: to encourage you if this is what you're a part of.
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Speaker 1: This is what I refer to as a legitimate peaceful protest.
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Speaker 1: God bless you, because this is exactly what should happen.
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Speaker 2: This is exactly and how it should happen.
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Speaker 1: This is the whole ball game here, and this is
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Speaker 1: how we make a stand. Because imagine if a bunch
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Speaker 1: of eighteen millers stop giving goods to New York City,
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Speaker 1: what does.
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Speaker 2: That do to New York City.
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Speaker 1: They're going to run out of goods quickly, and then
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Speaker 1: it's going to become a real issue quickly. It's going
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Speaker 1: to be clear that there's going to be problems quickly.
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Speaker 1: This is the biggest problem that we have in this
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Speaker 1: country is that people don't understand that we do have
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Speaker 1: the power to stand our ground, we do have the
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Speaker 1: power to fight back, we do have the power to
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Speaker 1: unite together.
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Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that what ends up coming.
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Speaker 1: Out of this is that the truckers actually inspire other
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Speaker 1: Americans who we are in the silent majority, to say
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Speaker 1: enough already. You know, I look at the pro Palestinian
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Speaker 1: protesters real quick and what they have done send this
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Speaker 1: war broke out. But with these terrorists that killed the
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Speaker 1: innocent people in Israel. Have you noticed how organized and
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Speaker 1: how loud they are. Have you noticed how many roadways
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Speaker 1: they've been able to shut down. Have you noticed how
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Speaker 1: many protests they've had. You would think that there's a
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Speaker 1: hell of a lot of pro Hamas protesters, Palace and
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Speaker 1: in protesters in the country. In reality, there just aren't
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Speaker 1: that many. You look at the protests, they're usually small.
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Speaker 1: And my point is, imagine if all these truckers say, Okay,
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Speaker 1: watch this, watch what we're about to do. You think
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Speaker 1: what they're doing is impressive. Wait till hundreds of loads
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Speaker 1: a day get missed into New York City. Watch how
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Speaker 1: fast that becomes an issue. This is why I'm saying
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Speaker 1: it's so inspiring. So I want to make it clear
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Speaker 1: to every truck driver that's listening right now, if you're
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Speaker 1: a part of this, God bless you. Let me also
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Speaker 1: just get into the finds here and back to this
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Speaker 1: court case for a moment with Donald Trump. The judge
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Speaker 1: that is fined Donald Trump more than three hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty million, bars him from running businesses in New York
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Speaker 1: for three years, and goes after his kids. I want
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Speaker 1: you to understand that this is exactly what socialists and
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Speaker 1: communists and Marxist due to their political enemies, they ruined
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Speaker 1: them financially and they try to lock them up and
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Speaker 1: put them in jail.
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Speaker 2: But it's not just them, it's their families.
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Speaker 1: Look at how this also went after the Trump sons,
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Speaker 1: Eric Trump and Don Junior. The judge who presided over
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Speaker 1: the civil fraud trial against Donald Trump, not only did
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Speaker 1: he not have a single person that said they were defrauded,
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Speaker 1: but the people that they claim were defrauded came into
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Speaker 1: the courtroom and actually defended Donald Trump. It didn't matter
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Speaker 1: because what they said was you are going to be ruined.
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Speaker 1: Business associates and the company you got to pay more
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Speaker 1: than three hundred and fifty.
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Speaker 2: Million in damages.
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Speaker 1: It's more than some smaller country's GDP and more than
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Speaker 1: their budget for an entire year. They say that's in damages, right, Okay,
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Speaker 1: so let's talk about the damages. Who was damaged, who
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Speaker 1: was defrauded, who was harmed? If you can't answer that question,
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Speaker 1: then what the hell are we doing here? If you
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Speaker 1: go to the people you claim were defrauded and they
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Speaker 1: end up testifying on behalf of Donald Trump saying we
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Speaker 1: were never defrauded, he paid us back, everything was fine,
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Speaker 1: then the question then becomes what are we doing here?
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Speaker 2: Yet again, well, we know what we're doing here.
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Speaker 1: These are communists, Marxist socialists who are trying to shut
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Speaker 1: down the president of the United States of America and
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Speaker 1: bankrupt him.
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Speaker 2: In the process.
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Speaker 1: To not just send a message to Donald Trump, but
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Speaker 1: to every other conservative you better watch out because you
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Speaker 1: could be next.
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Speaker 2: You play by the rules that we lay.
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Speaker 1: Out for you, and if you buck the system, which
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has clearly done, then we will come after
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Speaker 1: you in liberal cities where you are or where you've
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Speaker 1: done business and we will do everything we can to
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Speaker 1: bankrupt you.
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Speaker 2: I do not believe that this case is going to
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Speaker 2: stand on appeal. I think it'll be overturned.
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Speaker 1: But you got to understand that Judge Arthur ordering the
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Speaker 1: former president of the Trump Organization to pay this three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty four million of damages and barring Trump from
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Speaker 1: serving as an officer director of a New York corporation
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Speaker 1: or other legal india in New York for a period
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Speaker 1: of three years. He's doing this because he wants to
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Speaker 1: not just ruin Donald Trump. He wants to bankrupt him,
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Speaker 1: and he wants to him to be basically homeless.
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Speaker 2: He wants it to.
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Speaker 1: Be the biggest punishment of his life, only for committing
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Speaker 1: a crime of what running for office again.
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Speaker 2: None of this right now that we're.
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Speaker 1: Talking about would have happened if Donald Trump wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: said I'm running fors and again after he lost last time.
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Speaker 2: The New York Attorney General James.
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Speaker 1: Whose office brought the case, said that with pre judgment interest,
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Speaker 1: the judgment actually totals more than four hundred and fifty million,
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Speaker 1: an amount, she says, which will continue to increase every
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Speaker 1: single day until the judgment is paid, So the three
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Speaker 1: P fifty four is actually four fifty, which will be
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Speaker 1: a half a billion dollars very soon. Politico also ran
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Speaker 1: a propaganda article this weekend saying, can Trump pay? What
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't? What's going to happen to him? Right,
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Speaker 1: that's their line, what happens? Can Trump pay? What if
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Speaker 1: he doesn't? Here's what we know about Trump's massive civil judgments,
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Speaker 1: because remember this is all about Donald Trump being guilty.
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Speaker 2: That's it. There's their byline says, he's now.
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Speaker 1: Referring to Trump on the hook for nearly a half
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Speaker 1: billion dollars across three civil cases. These are the rules
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Speaker 1: for when and how he must pay. You go down
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Speaker 1: to the article. It says a seven figure verdict, an
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Speaker 1: eight figure verdict, and now a nine figure verdict. You
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Speaker 1: know it's a trend here, right, we'll get you. Oh
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Speaker 1: that wasn't enough, all right, We'll go bigger the next time.
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Speaker 2: Oh that what enough? All right, We'll go bigger the
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Speaker 2: next time.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been hit with all three in the
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Speaker 1: past nine months, with Fridays three hundred and fifty four
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Speaker 1: million dollar penalty for New York business fraud by far
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Speaker 1: the most massive that we've seen He's now in the
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Speaker 1: hook for over four hundred and forty million, and then
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Speaker 1: with interests. These are all civil judgments as he heads
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Speaker 1: towards a Republican nomination, and as he prepares for one
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Speaker 1: or more criminal trials this year. This is Politico saying this,
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Speaker 1: those criminal cases could put him in jail, and in
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Speaker 1: the meantime, is escalating troubles in his civil cases are
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Speaker 1: packing a devastating financial punch, even for a man who
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Speaker 1: claims to be a billionaire. Four hundred and forty million
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Speaker 1: is potentially crippling amount of cash to turn over.
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Speaker 2: Can Trump afford the judgments? When does he have to
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Speaker 2: pay them?
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Speaker 1: And what happens if he says he can't or if
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Speaker 1: he's outright refuses.
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Speaker 2: Here's a look at what comes next. Politico rights.
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Speaker 1: Trump's company isn't public and he has famously refused to
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Speaker 1: close his tax returns, so his cash flow situation is
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Speaker 1: shrouded in mystery. Politico rights right, And see, they got
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Speaker 1: to paint a picture that Donald Trump somehow isn't trusted. Well,
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Speaker 1: if your company isn't publicly traded, why the hell should
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Speaker 1: you know exactly how much cash I have?
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Speaker 2: Anyway?
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Speaker 1: In fact, most people I know don't know what their
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Speaker 1: best friend has in cash, or even their family members.
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Speaker 1: But apparently, if it's Donald Trump, you should know it
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Speaker 1: all and if you don't, he's hiding something.
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Speaker 2: Wish. They use the same logic.
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Speaker 1: When using talking about the Biden crime family, don't you?
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Speaker 1: Politico then writes, even if he has four hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty million in cash on hand, and it's far from
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Speaker 1: clear that he does, paying the judgment could wipe out
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Speaker 1: his account, since Trump himself has placed as cash reserves
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Speaker 1: in the in the ballpark of that amount. Trump claimed
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Speaker 1: in a deposition last year he had substantial, substantially an
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Speaker 1: excess to four hundred million in.
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Speaker 2: Cash on hand.
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Speaker 1: We have I believe four hundred plus and going up
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Speaker 1: very substantially every month, he said, adding my biggest expense
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Speaker 1: is probably legal fees. Unfortunately, but it's unclear whether that
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Speaker 1: number is accurate. That deposition, after all, was part of
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Speaker 1: a of the very lawsuit in which a judge found
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Speaker 1: that Trump had repeatedly inflated his net worth. If he
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Speaker 1: doesn't have enough cash on hand, would he have to
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Speaker 1: sell properties? See this is the wet dream of the
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Speaker 1: Democratic Socialist Communist Party. Trump would likely have to sell something,
17:46
Speaker 1: although it wouldn't necessarily have to be property. He could
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Speaker 1: sell investments or other assets. They write, what happens if
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Speaker 1: he resists paying?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Because again, this is Donald Trump. We've already agreed that
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Speaker 1: he's guilty. We've already agreed that he's the worst person
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Speaker 1: in the world. Wor right, That's what Politico's saying here.
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Speaker 1: In the civil fraud case, which is in New York
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Speaker 1: State court, if Trump can't post the funds or get
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Speaker 1: a bond, then the judgment would take effect immediately and
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Speaker 1: a sheriff could begin seizing Trump assets. The rules are
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Speaker 1: slightly different in federal court, which is the venue for
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Speaker 1: the eighty three point three million dollar judgment that Trump
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Speaker 1: owes for defaming the writer e Jing Carroll after she
18:24
Speaker 1: accused him of raping her. By the way, he was
18:28
Speaker 1: never convicted of any such crime, and then when he
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Speaker 1: said she was full of it, she sued, And guess what,
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Speaker 1: in a liberal court they said, yeah, we like this.
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Speaker 2: Let's let's put.
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Speaker 1: Trump in more financial peril with an eighty three point
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Speaker 1: three million dollar judgment. He also owes Carol an additional
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Speaker 1: five million from a separate verdict last year Carol could
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Speaker 1: pursue post judgment discovery under the jurisdiction of the judge
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Speaker 1: who oversaw the trial. Through that process, the judge could
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Speaker 1: order Trump to produce his bank account records, place leans,
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Speaker 1: or garnish his wages.
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Speaker 2: Do you see this?
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Speaker 1: This is the playbook for anybody that gets out of line.
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Speaker 1: Now in a liberal city or state in America, they're
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Speaker 1: going to bury you.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I say, this is why the truck drivers are saying,
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Speaker 1: screw you, New York. If this is what you're going
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Speaker 1: to do, see if we'll work in your state, See
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Speaker 1: if we'll deliver your loads.
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Speaker 2: Quote.
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to have to pay. And whether
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Speaker 1: it requires him to sell or put a lien on
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Speaker 1: something to get a loan, that's his problem, not ours.
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Speaker 1: He's going to pay. That's what Carol's attorney said on
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Speaker 1: CNN last month. The judge Kaplan added to quote, will
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Speaker 1: use judgment enforcement mechanisms.
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Speaker 2: To make sure that he pays.
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Speaker 1: If Trump truly can't afford the judgments, he can have
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Speaker 1: to declare bankruptcy. Another wet dream of the left. Can
19:46
Speaker 1: Trump delay payment by appealing the verdicts. No, in all
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Speaker 1: three cases, he has to put money in an ASCO
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Speaker 1: account with the court, or get a bond while he's
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Speaker 1: appealing the verdicts. With a civil fraud verdict which Trump
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Speaker 1: is valed to appeal, the amount to be posted or
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Speaker 1: bonded is set by the court. It is typically about
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty to one hundred and twenty five
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Speaker 1: percent of the judgment amount to account for additional post
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Speaker 1: judgment interests that occurs that accruesed. I should say during
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Speaker 1: the appeal process. With last year's Carol verdict, which Trump
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Speaker 1: has appealed, he turned over five point five million to
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Speaker 1: the court, which was worth eleven percent of the judgment.
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Speaker 1: For the more recent Carol verdict, which Trump has also
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Speaker 1: vowed to appeal, one hundred and eleven percent of the
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Speaker 1: judgment would be ninety two point four to six million.
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Speaker 1: You notice what they're trying to do. They're trying to
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Speaker 1: bankrupt him. I want to say what I said a
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Speaker 1: moment ago. For the most recent verdict, which is the
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Speaker 1: woman who has sued him, Carol, Trump is vowed to
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Speaker 1: appeal that absurd.
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Speaker 2: Judgment against him.
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Speaker 1: One hundred and eleven percent of the judgment, it would
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Speaker 1: be ninety two point four eight million, listen carefully. Trump
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Speaker 1: has a thirty day window after the January twenty sixth
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Speaker 1: verdict to either pay cash and do the court's escrow,
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Speaker 1: or get a bond while he appeals.
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Speaker 2: If he chooses to file a bond, he.
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Speaker 1: Will likely have to pay a twenty percent deposit that
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Speaker 1: would be sixteen point sixty six million and put up collateral,
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Speaker 1: but it could come with fees and interests, making it
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Speaker 1: more expensive in the long run, and it would require
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Speaker 1: Trump to find a third party willing to take on
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Speaker 1: the risk of loading him the money. Politico then, rights,
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Speaker 1: does he personally have to pay the verdicts? Could he
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Speaker 1: get his campaign or pack or the RNC to pay.
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Speaker 1: The courts don't have restrictions on the sources of funds
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Speaker 1: used to pay judgments, and Trump would surely like to
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Speaker 1: tap other funds. Then whatever money is in his own
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Speaker 1: personal accounts, he could transfer assets from the Trump organizations
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Speaker 1: to him in order to help satisfy the judgments.
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Speaker 2: Using his political vehicles to pay would be well far trickier,
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Speaker 2: they say.
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Speaker 1: There is a general ban on using campaign donations for
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Speaker 1: personal uses unrelated to a campaign or the official duties
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Speaker 1: of an office holder, and as for his political action committees.
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Speaker 1: A professor of constitutional law at New York University Law School,
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Speaker 1: said they can't pay Trump's judgments.
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Speaker 2: Campaign funds cannot be.
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Speaker 1: Used for that purpose, regardless of whether the pack is
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Speaker 1: the decision maker, he sent an email to Politico. Besides,
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Speaker 1: they say Trump's packs may not be able to afford
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Speaker 1: the judgments since he's been using them to pay for
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Speaker 1: the many lawyers defending him across his criminal.
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Speaker 2: And civil cases.
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Speaker 1: Now, two of Trump's packs spent twenty nine million in
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Speaker 1: legal consulting and legal fees in the second half of
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Speaker 1: last year, leaving only five million in his leadership pack's
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Speaker 1: bank account. Republican National Committee doesn't have the same ban
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Speaker 1: on the personal use of finds is Trump's campaign committee,
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Speaker 1: but paying Trump's judgments could jeopardize They say it's non
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Speaker 1: profit status.
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Speaker 2: So you think.
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Speaker 1: About what all I just said to you here, and
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Speaker 1: you've got to understand something. What's clear is the democratic
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Speaker 1: Communist Socialist.
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Speaker 2: Marxist have their game plan.
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Speaker 1: Their game plan is to tie him up in court
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Speaker 1: during this election cycle number one and then bankrupt him
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Speaker 1: with absurd and ridiculous judgments in courts like New York City,
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Speaker 1: where they can destroy his life, his family's life, and
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Speaker 1: take everything away from him. This is also, i will
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Speaker 1: say it again, bigger than Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: I want to be clear about that.
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Speaker 1: This is so much bigger because this is also a
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Speaker 1: shout across about any other hardcore conservative that thinks.
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Speaker 2: About getting out of line.
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Speaker 1: Because what they're saying is will come after you too.
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Speaker 1: You notice their coming after him all over the country
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Speaker 1: in liberal places where they can get liberal juries and
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Speaker 1: liberal judges and activist Soros das. I also want to
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Speaker 1: hit pause on this story for just a second and
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Speaker 1: go back to another story I talked about earlier this
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Speaker 1: week and one that I think directly relates to this,
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Speaker 1: so you understand just how corrupt our government is earlier
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Speaker 1: this past week, and if you missed it, go back
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Speaker 1: and listen to the entire podcast. Okay Dowla Ben ferguson
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Speaker 1: podcasts wherever you get your podcasts, and you can go
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Speaker 1: back and listen to this episode because I expose for
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Speaker 1: you the CIA and foreign intelligence agencies illegally targeting Spye
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Speaker 1: illegally on twenty six Trump associates before the two thy
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Speaker 1: sixteen election cycle. We now know that our government and
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Speaker 1: our intelligence community of our government asks foreign spy agencies
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Speaker 1: to spy on twenty six associates of Donald Trump and
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Speaker 1: the run up to the twenty sixteen election.
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Speaker 2: Those around him that were working for him, which.
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Speaker 1: Then triggered the allegations that the former president's campaign had
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Speaker 1: been colluding with Russia. According to a report, who was
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Speaker 1: behind it the highest player players in the Biden of
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Speaker 1: or I say, the Obama administration.
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Speaker 2: In fact, this was twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 1: Former CIA director John Brennan identified and also presented the
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Speaker 1: Trump targets to the US intelligence sharing partners and the
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Speaker 1: so called Five Eyes agencies. Now we're the five Eyes.
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Speaker 1: It's an intelligence gathering organization in the US, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia,
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Speaker 1: New Zealand. The report by independent journalists, one of them,
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Speaker 1: Matt Taibi, had talked about how this is what they
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Speaker 1: are now doing. They cite multiple unnamed sources, including ones
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Speaker 1: close to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that's
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Speaker 1: led by Representative Mike Turner, a Republican from Ohio. Turner's
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Speaker 1: office did not respond to requests for comment about this
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Speaker 1: earth shattering news for the intelligence agencies the US intelligence community.
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Speaker 1: They did say they identified the twenty six Trump associates
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Speaker 1: as people to quote, bump, or make contact with, or manipulate.
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Speaker 1: One source told the Outlet, and spy speak just so
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Speaker 1: you know what bumping is. Bumping is when a reason
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Speaker 1: is manufactured out of thin air to meet with a
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Speaker 1: target of interest in order to develop a relationship that
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Speaker 1: could lead to actual intelligence.
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Speaker 2: That's now what we're being told.
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Speaker 1: They were quote targets of our own intelligence community and
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Speaker 1: our own law enforcement targets to colect and misinformation.
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Speaker 2: The sources confirmed British.
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Speaker 1: Government Communications headquarters Intelligence Apparatus was also making contact we've
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Speaker 1: now confirmed with Trump's associates as early as March of
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. According to the report, they were making contact
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Speaker 1: and they were bumping Trump people.
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Speaker 2: Going back to March.
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Speaker 1: Of sixteen, they were sending people around the UK, around Australia,
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Speaker 1: around Italy. The MI six was working at an intelligence
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Speaker 1: school they'd set up.
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Speaker 2: A spokesperson said.
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Speaker 1: The Outlet of the claim it was asked to conduct
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Speaker 1: wire tapping against then President elect Our nonsense. Well, remember
27:47
Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Barack Obama also said that there was
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Speaker 1: never such thing as spying on Donald Trump. We now
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Speaker 1: know they lied about that intelligence related to the alleged
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Speaker 1: surveillance effort, they say is housed in a ten inch binder,
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Speaker 1: according to the outlet, which Trumps seventy seven ordered to
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Speaker 1: be to classified at the end of his presidency and
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Speaker 1: could contain evidence that quote multiple US intelligence officials broke
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Speaker 1: claws against spying and broke claws against election interference, which
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Speaker 1: are both major felonies.
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Speaker 2: Get this.
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Speaker 1: The whereabouts the alleged thick binder are quote unquote unknown.
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Speaker 1: The Trump campaign and the CIA did not respond to
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Speaker 1: the New York Post requests for comment on the story either.
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Speaker 1: What we do know is that warrantless surveillance of US
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Speaker 1: persons is specifically.
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Speaker 2: Prohibited by US law. Let me say that again.
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Speaker 1: Warrantless surveillance of US persons is specifically prohibited by US law.
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Speaker 1: So why was the intelligence community gathering intel on all
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Speaker 1: of these Trump associates and asking the Five Eyes spying
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Speaker 1: conglomerate to spy on people, or bump people or entrap
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Speaker 1: people with a Trump campaign? Former FBI lawyer Kevin Klinsmith
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Speaker 1: was sentenced to probation in twenty twenty one after admitting
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Speaker 1: that he falsified an email to renew a wire tap
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Speaker 1: against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page. You noticed by
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Speaker 1: the way he was sentenced to probation, not to jail.
29:28
Speaker 1: Page had been wired tapped after intelligence sources suspected he
29:32
Speaker 1: might have been targeted by Russian spies. The wired tap,
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Speaker 1: which was approved by the of course secret Foreign Intelligent
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Speaker 1: Surveillance Court, was renewed several times after it was first granted,
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Speaker 1: even though the information data backing it up said it
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Speaker 1: was not to be done and they didn't have probable
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Speaker 1: cause to continue to.
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Speaker 2: Grant the warrants.
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Speaker 1: We also know that March Special counsel John Durham concluded
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Speaker 1: that the FBI investigation of Trump's alleged collusion with Russia
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Speaker 1: was was quote unquote seriously flawed and had no basis
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Speaker 1: in evidence after.
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Speaker 2: A four year review of the probe.
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Speaker 1: In response, the FBI said it was implementing dozens of
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Speaker 1: corrective actions since the improper Trump probe and that the
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Speaker 1: quote missteps identifying the report could have been prevented close quote.
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Speaker 2: None of this, by the way, seems to have actually
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Speaker 2: taken place.
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, You may remember that Matt Taibi,
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Speaker 1: as well as another journalists, Scholl Amberger were involved in
30:45
Speaker 1: the publishing of the Twitter Files expose, a which detailed
30:50
Speaker 1: how the social media giant's previous management team sought to
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Speaker 1: silence controversial voices and suppressed new items, such as the
30:59
Speaker 1: posts reporting on the Hunter Biden laptop to save Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden's presidential election cycle. I beg you go back and
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Speaker 1: listen to the podcast that we did on this You
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