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- Todd: Welcome everyone to Beers with Jesus. Todd's World. Carrie's with me. How's it going, Carrie? I'm I'm Todd. Cheers. Carrie's got a drink. I just got regular old Bud Fat. One in the holster. Yo, It's Carrie: Fabulous. Cheers. Todd: How you been, Kerry? Yo, It's Carrie: I've been great. Busy. Biz yeah. Busy. It's always busy. I look forward to this though. This is great. How are you doing? Todd: Good. It's always busy, right? We're good. I w we aren't recording on a normal day 'cause I had a busy weekend, but so I'm still recovering. But I'm ready to go. I'm ready for for the Hall of Fame game on Noah and the Ark. At least the beginning of Noah and the Flood. Although I don't think we're gonna get to the flood today. Yeah. So I'm ⁓ what we do here guys, we read out of the message. We have two shows. Yo, It's Carrie: All right. I was gonna say it's just the beginning, right? Mm-hmm. Todd: If if you didn't get we also have the wildly opinionated news hour that drops on Tuesdays, Beers of Jesus drops on Wednesdays. Different kinds of shows, obviously. We have a lot of fun. We just go through clips and news. And then on Beers with Jesus, we still have a lot of fun and we just go through stories of the Bible. And we are right now going through Genesis. And we are right now at Noah and his Ark and the Flood. And if you know anything at all about the Bible, maybe even if you don't, this story's Yo, It's Carrie: Yeah. Todd: Probably familiar. There's ⁓ Yeah. Okay, so I'm reading today. We're gonna read it, go through it, get in, get on. You know what I mean. You know how it goes. Alright, so we're gonna start in Genesis six. We read the message because the message is the best. So that's all. ⁓ if you don't have the message, then just listen to us read it. Yo, It's Carrie: It's a it's about to go down. Yeah. Nikes. Todd: Or you can read it in yours and you can tell us the difference for whatever that's worth to anybody who that makes you feel better. ⁓ so I'm gonna start Genesis six verse five. Yo, It's Carrie: Interesting. Okay. Okay. You're skipping those first four. Todd: Last week we talked about the Nephilim and the giants and the whole thing. And so if you're interested in that, a lot of people are, go listen to that episode. It was a great episode. ⁓ But this week, we're in Noah and his sons, is the heading of the beginning of the section. God saw that human evil was out of control. People thought evil, imagined evil, evil, evil, evil from morning to night. God was sorry. That he had made the human race in the first place. It broke his heart. God said, I'll get rid of my ruined creation, make a clean sweep. People, animals, snakes, and bugs, birds, the works. I'm sorry I made them. But Noah was different. God liked what he saw in Noah. This is the story of Noah. Noah was a good man, a man of integrity in his community. Noah walked with God. Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. As far as God was concerned, the earth had become a sewer. There was violence everywhere. God took one look and saw how bad it was. Everyone corrupt and corrupting. Life itself corrupt to the core. God said to Noah, It's all over. It's the end of the human race. The violence is everywhere. I'm making a clean sweep. Build yourself a ship from teakwood. Make rooms in it. Coat it with pitch inside and out. ⁓ make it four hundred and fifty feet long, seventy five feet wide, and forty five feet high. Build a roof for it and put in a window eighteen inches from the top. Put in a door on the side of the ship, and make three decks lower, middle, and middle. and upper. I'm going to bring a flood on the earth that will destroy everything alive under heaven. Total destruction. But I'm going to establish a covenant with you. You'll board the ship. Your sons, your wife, and your sons wives will come on board with you. You're also to take two of each living creature, a male and a female on board the ship to preserve their lives with you. Two of every species of bird and mammal, two of everything so as to preserve their lives along with yours. Also, get all the food you'll need and store it up for you and them. Noah did everything God commanded him to do. Yo, It's Carrie: Good job. Todd: Boom. What do you think, Gary? Yo, It's Carrie: Good job reading. This is ⁓ you know, I I've been thinking about approaching this story. And we were talking here in my family about how this is a story that everyone knows. Even if you don't go to church, you know, even if you weren't even raised with it, it just seems to be one of those stories that everyone has heard in their lifetime. So I was trying to approach it as though it's new. Todd: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yo, It's Carrie: Because you know, when because when we talk about these things, we look at them a little bit differently. So as a story. And the thing that stands out to me is how awful like how awful it is. And yet God likes Noah. It it it's like, okay, so Noah is obviously like the only good thing left, you know, among the people. Well, in his family, but Todd: Okay. Yeah, as a story. He does. Yeah. He's he's what God wants to start again with. Yeah. No, that that is that that that is interesting. What what strikes me about it is how preposterous the entire idea is. I mean, I just just imagine being Noah. So so guys, listen. Our approach has been that we take the stories at face value. So in other words, ⁓ there there's different Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Mm-hmm. Todd: ⁓ descriptions of flood. Some people think it wasn't a universal flood or or like a a c covered the entire world, even though the Bible says over and over that it did. All of that stuff, all of the scientific stuff, all of it, I'm we're not we don't spend a lot of time on. So what we're interested in is the story and what we're presented with is a guy who's a pretty good guy. Like he's got his stuff together. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: God God likes what he sees in Noah. God God likes what he sees in Noah. And therefore God gives Noah a almost thankless job. Like a lot of work. Like this is a crazy amount of work. to do this based on something he's never seen. He's never seen rain. He doesn't have any idea what a storm is. And therefore God gives Noah a almost thankless job. Like a lot of work. Like this is a crazy amount of work. And he's being called to do this based on something he's never seen. He's never seen rain. He doesn't have any idea what a storm is. We don't think that any of this was going on then. That that up until then, you know, you had kind of a firmament over the earth and in waters above, waters below. ⁓ Yo, It's Carrie: ⁓ ⁓ my gosh, it really is. Todd: Just a completely different climate is is kind of the idea. And so first of all, like Noah has to believe it. He first of all has got a b now he started out believing in God. So he's on the right track, you know, he's serving God. And then God comes to him with this. Like, I'm gonna destroy everyone but you and your kids and their wives and two of each animal, then I'm gonna repopulate the whole earth. And so first of all, like Noah has to believe it. He first of all has got a b now he started out believing in God. So he's on the right track, you know, he's serving God. And then God comes to him with this. ⁓ Like, I'm gonna destroy everyone but you ⁓ and your and their wives ⁓ and two of animal, then I'm gonna repopulate the earth. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: And Noah's supposed to not only believe it, but work on said arc for like seventy five years to build the thing. And Noah's supposed to not only believe it, but work on said arc for like seventy five years to build the thing. Yo, It's Carrie: Yeah, I was gonna say, do we know how long it takes is that about how long it takes? Todd: Yeah, and by the time well it's about a hundred and ⁓ it's about a hundred years between when God tells them about the flood and when God actually shuts the door of the ark and they get on. So so Noah has a lot of time. But but see, in addition to having a fair amount of time to to do this massive task, he's got a fair amount of time to doubt the whole idea that any of this is actually gonna happen. Yo, It's Carrie: Wow. Todd: so Noah has a lot of time. But but see, in addition to having a fair amount of time to to do this massive task, he's got a fair of time to doubt the whole idea that any of this is actually gonna happen. ⁓ Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, completely. ⁓ Yeah, completely. ⁓ plus he's having to do this while, you know, I imagine still providing for his family, still like living in the world that, you know. Can you right? I mean, it it must have been crazy. They must have thought he was nuts. Mm-hmm. Todd: Right. As they mock him and make fun of him, he It it had to look crazy. Th nobody had ever seen ships before that we know of. Like this is a totally different idea and this isn't even I mean it's more of a box than a ship. It's not meant to be steered anywhere. Yo, It's Carrie: Right. Todd: But yeah, this idea first of all first of all you gotta come to terms with the fact that everything that you know is about to be gone. You're leaving everything you know behind. And we're gonna find that this this is not this is not unique to Noah. This is real typical of God and real typical of the people he uses. We're gonna find it with Abraham. Yo, It's Carrie: I guess not. Mm-hmm. Todd: We're gonna find it with Jacob. We're gonna find it with Joseph. We're just gonna find it over and over and over again that when God decides to use you, He's gonna put you he He's gonna y your entire old world that you knew is gonna be gone. You know, I'm not gone, but in other words, you're not part of it anymore. Like Paul or like the apostles, like the disciples. They're fishermen, they were tax collectors, they're just first of all, I'm gonna destroy your old life. I'm gonna get rid I'm you're gonna be pulled completely out of that. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right, right. Like never the just never the same. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: But the adventure on the other side is gonna be pretty amazing. But it's a lot of work. I just and you gotta maintain it. Like you gotta believe it. You gotta believe it every day. You gotta get up on Thursday thinking about the work you already did on this beaver wood arc and what you gotta do. And it looks real nice. You're like, wait. I mean, I know God said this, but man. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Right. I mean and I'm sorry. I I know, I think of how we would how we would react. And I guess if it's God and I mean you just do what you're gonna what do what he asks you to do, but no one ever seems to question it. Or at least it's not documented. You know? Does no Okay. Okay. But I mean it just says Todd: No well, Moses does. Moses spends two chapters questioning it. But but yeah, I mean Job does, kinda. Yo, It's Carrie: Just says the I mean, right after he tells him everything he needs to do, it just says Noah did everything God commanded him to do. And I just think mm-hmm. Todd: Yep. That was the kind of faith he had. God basically told him, I'm sending you into a storm. Like like the biggest storm, like you haven't even imagined a storm like this. In nothing but a wooden box with a bunch of animals. But don't worry, on the other side there'll be some cool stuff. You had to really Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. With ⁓ yeah, some cool stuff. With ⁓ yeah. With the just one window eighteen inches from the top. Is that it? Todd: Yeah, I wonder if maybe they had a couple up there in order you know, you'd think of venting and I mean you would think you'd have to. And there's a lot of questions. Listen, we're gonna get into the mechanics of the flood next week. And maybe we'll hit some of the questions, maybe won't, but I I just Yeah, we'll hit some of ⁓ but you know there's a lot of questions, not a lot of answers when it comes to a lot of the specifics. So clearly the specifics, like how do you how do you hold enough food for one elephant Yo, It's Carrie: Maybe. I don't know. Sure, sure. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Todd: for a year while you're on the ark. When it would take almost the whole ark, you know what I mean? There's there's things like this that that you know we we we'll we'll have to ask ourselves. But that's even you gotta get to where like you're inside, the animals have already came and the rain's coming down. That's a hundred year trip is my point. My point is that hundred year trip I feel like i it it required some faith what we talk about all the time on here. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Well even the construction of it. Mm-hmm. Todd: Hebrews 11 is the Hall of Faith. We're going to go back to this frequently through Genesis because a lot of people are in the Hall of Faith. So we had Enoch a couple weeks ago in the Hall of Faith. The very next one is Noah. Says, by faith Noah built a ship in the middle of dry land. He was warned about something he couldn't see and acted on what he was told. The result? His family was saved. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: His act of faith drew a sharp line between the evil of the unbelieving world and the rightness of the believing world. As a result, Noah became intimate with God. And that's what he did. He did a he it was acting on that faith. I think we're gonna find that over and over through the hall of faith when when we're reading. We tend to think, I think sometimes that faith is like you're believer. Like you're just all believing things. But like you're giving logical assent to the idea that some things. Yo, It's Carrie: Yeah. Right. I mean that's like the bare minimum, but no. The hall of faith is definitely Todd: But but it's always the people who step out on that who act. And usually they're stepping into a storm. And usually it's a storm that they've never seen the likes of of at all. But they step out anyway. Or if you're the if they're the disciples, they push out anyway onto the Sea of Galilee at night in a boat when they know damn well a storm's coming. Like that's faith. And they think Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: We may die. You know? Maybe Noah thinks the same thing. Maybe Noah's banging away on the maybe Noah got the ark done early. And then it was like a monument to Noah's folly as he's waiting for the rain. Do you know what I mean? We just don't know. But what we do the only thing we really know is that Noah did what God told him, whether or not it made sense. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: To know what and quite certainly it must not have made sense every day, or at least not every part of every day. You you know what I mean? Yo, It's Carrie: ⁓ no. It it could like it couldn't hap. I'd I'd I think Noah couldn't be ⁓ he would yeah, he couldn't be human and not wonder. I know. It is really like you said, preposterous. I mean Todd: Human. Yeah, like is this? Yo, It's Carrie: In that part of the world. Yeah. Todd: You gotta really trust God. And I think that's you know, ⁓ again, over and over again, we're we're presented with microcosms or ⁓ or or stories that are within this greater story and they all kind of have the the same kind of meaning. They're reinforcing the idea that God calls us to do the impossible. Because God himself at the at the crux of the story, at the very climax, is gonna do the impossible. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: And that's what we're called to. Jesus is gonna walk in, he's gonna do the impossible and lay down his life for those when he's innocent. And the ba and the world's just not ready for that kind of thing. Yo, It's Carrie: I mean, I think the Hall of Fathers are called to do the impossible. I don't know. I don't know if everybody is. I mean right. I mean some for some people it's impossible even to do that that step of faith. ⁓ not even action, just the belief and ⁓ yeah. And I wonder what they think about this a story like this, hearing about someone who just trusted completely and Todd: You're not sure if everybody is. Well, in our own way, maybe. Yeah. Yo, It's Carrie: Did God's will and Todd: Find I was look what? No, go ahead. Yo, It's Carrie: You know what else too while you're looking? I love how in this part of the Bible, God communicates so specifically and clearly what he wants. You know, we're sometimes like, we wish we just understood. Like, what does God want from us? What do you know, what are we supposed to be doing? Here he's like, listen, it's gotta be this high, this wide. He's like giving him measurements, for goodness sake. He's so specific. Todd: Yeah. Although it's a possible that if you were Noah, you might be a little jealous of all this context that we have. They might have been there might have been nights of the a hundred years where you'd have thought, you know, if I had a book like The Message, it'd be a lot easier to get through this. Yo, It's Carrie: Yes, yes. So okay, so you're saying our context of the whole story is more valuable. Todd: I feel like God's been pretty specific in here on and off. Yo, It's Carrie: Okay, more valuable than the specific instructions without the big picture. That's a good point, Todd. Thank you. ⁓ Todd: It's mostly us and I mean it was pretty specific to Adam and Eve and it was pretty simple and it was don't eat that one tree because that's the door outta here. And that's what they chose. And and that's what everybody chose. I mean that there it talks again someplace about how Noah preached to the spirits of the like Jesus went down and he spre he preached to the spirits of that same age that were lost in the flood. ⁓ but it doesn't really say what came of it. So Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: But we're just left with some things. One thing I was looking at was in James. ⁓ this was just last week. I happened to be ⁓ going through the book of James and I was at James five, which is the last chapter. And I ran into this, and he says, Meanwhile, friends, it's chapter five, verse seven in James. Meanwhile, friends wait patiently for the master's arrival. You see farmers do this all the time. Waiting for their valuable crops to mature, patiently letting the rain Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Todd: Do its slow but sure work. Be patient like that. Stay steady and strong. The master could arrive at any time. I just like that I that that idea of that's what that's what that's what Noah did is he stayed steady. You know what I mean? He believed that God was gonna do what God said he was gonna do, even though it seemed impossible to Noah. Which we're gonna see in Abraham. We're gonna see that's what I mean. We're gonna see this in in all these different patriarchs. That that they saw that God they God said something and it didn't Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: It'd make a lot of sense, really. But they did the but they acted anyway because they they believed he was God. And they really believed it, apparently. Yo, It's Carrie: So are so are you saying that Noah is not that different from not that different from anything happening now? That we're just our assignment is to do our best to do God's will and be patient, knowing that He will fulfill His mm. Todd: I don't think he is. Now I listen Trust and obey, that old song. Yeah, just trust and obey, I think. And and and to some to some God God sets up some bigger projects that He wants you to work on. And so for some of those people, trusting and obeying is a bigger step. And then to to those of to some of us who haven't been given those big steps, Yo, It's Carrie: Trust and obey, and he will fulfill his promises. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Todd: We look at those like patriarchs, but I think they got to the big steps the same way that we get to the big steps in our lives, which are the series of small steps. It was it was Noah being faithful to God for 500 years before God comes to him and talks to him about the ark that builds this entire foundation. For five hundred years God was building the man before he gave the man the work to do. You know what I mean? We skip right by it because we didn't live it. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm. Mm-hmm. Todd: But but but but I think that's what James is talking about when he says you see farmers do their work all the time, waiting for their valuable crops to mature, patiently letting the rain. So there's this picture that God has planted Noah and he's got five hundred years and he's working the soil and he's getting Noah to j to just the right point. Well while everything all around Noah goes to hell. And don't think that Noah didn't notice. It it I think that there's another there there's another spot in the Bible somewhere where it talks about how Yo, It's Carrie: Right. Mm-hmm. Todd: Noah it it vexed his soul, this this unrighteous generation. Yo, It's Carrie: ⁓ Todd: And and so while Yo, It's Carrie: The the one that the one that was breaking God's heart? The okay. Todd: Yeah. So I think as it's breaking God's heart, as Noah's intimate with God, as Noah's following, walking with God, there's gotta be something about the fact as he's as he's looking out at at the rest of humanity and at the at the continual advance of evil. The continual good just seems less and less and less and he just it it must have grieved him. You know what I mean? It i it to know people, he he I mean, come on. The dude was alive for six hundred years. You don't think he knew anybody who died in the flood? Everybody he knew except his own family died in the flood. So you know what I mean? This there was a lot of loss. It Noah is gonna move, we're gonna see. Through a gigantic storm, Noah's gonna move into trance, he's gonna be transformed. He's gonna move from from an old life to a new life, from an old world to a new world. Yo, It's Carrie: Right. Right. Mm. Todd: But there's a lot of loss still leaving that old world. Does that make sense? Yo, It's Carrie: Sure, yeah, if if it's all it's all he knows. And and I mean I I wanna say I doubt everyone around him was evil and awful, but I don't know, maybe they were. But he still knew them and cared about them in his community. I don't know. Todd: Yeah. Yo, It's Carrie: I guess they were the only pure ones and God was like, Screw everybody else. Todd: Well, I I don't I yeah, I don't think that the there just wasn't there wasn't a p a place for it for whatever reason. They kept there there was things that they insisted first of all they didn't believe it. I mean y you gotta start there. You you gotta start with the only people that got that believed God were Noah and his sons. And who knows how hard Noah had to work to keep his sons and especially his sons' wives on board. I mean Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Mm-hmm. Right. Right, we're talking spouses as well, I know. You know? Todd: Like I guess where we're going. It's gonna be fun. ⁓ Yo, It's Carrie: We're we're working on the we're working on the boat this weekend again. Todd: So yeah, that step of faith I just think that to me was what struck out was what stuck out to me of this entire chapter was was Noah's Noah's just indomitable faith, I guess is is the way that I I'd like to think about it. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. And it says here again that he walked with God. And we were talking before about ⁓ well, was it Enoch who w walked with God? Okay, right. And then we had said God was walking with Adam and Eve. So I was gonna say this seems another time where maybe that's literal, especially considering the Todd: Mm-hmm. Who walked with God and then God just took ⁓ Mm-hmm. Yo, It's Carrie: S you know, special treatment. Special treatment Noah and his family are getting. Yeah, I wonder if maybe Todd: Well it So when you say that, do you think that you literally walk with God? And what does literally even mean? Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Well, okay, sorry. I shouldn't say literally, physically. Let's say physically. Thank you. Yeah. Sorry. That's what I mean when I say that. So I'm so I'm picturing because that l because of that line and the way we've seen it so far in Genesis, it makes me think that Noah's walking physically with him. I know. It's kind of interesting. Todd: There you go. Okay. Yeah. No, that makes sense. He may have to some extent. So Yo, It's Carrie: Mm. Todd, what do you think about this idea that God is looking at his creation and it's just, it's so awful. It's gone so far off track that he's, you know, he's going to destroy it. How how do you how do you reconcile the idea that, you know, I mean, he must have known this was going to happen? You know, did he let it get this? Did he let it get this bad or Todd: Mm-hmm. Yo, It's Carrie: I don't know. I'm just trying to understand. 'Cause we can't really project human ⁓ exactly human emotions onto God. I mean, I think you can to a degree, but we don't really know. Anyway, just Todd: Well, we know he created. And that he created with the potential for fall and the potential at least for sin. do I think God was shocked? I don't know. I mean, you know the idea of God being shocked. Well, we've talked about how it from from a certain perspective God's a lot of the times when when we're reading about God, especially here in Genesis Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sure. Mm-hmm. Todd: God th that's the character of God in his own story as opposed to the actual kind of deity of God. If th if that maybe that's a hard thing for people to get their heads around. It's it's not as hard for me as an author, but but it Yo, It's Carrie: No, I I'm glad you made that distinction again because I do think it's different. Before Jesus I feel like it's different. Or maybe it's just before the flood. I'd have to see what it's like after, but Todd: Yeah. He may have physically walked with him. I we know this. You're gonna see after the flood with Abraham that he physically walks with Abraham. He physically wrestles with Jacob. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. Todd: He physically turned water into wine. He physically healed all kinds of b you know what I mean? So so there are times where w certainly with the incarnation he does, but there was times for a while where he did. And so it's not unreasonable to think like we're gonna see in Abraham that he that he's walking among the earth and and he he he's heard reports about what's going on with Sodom and Gabor, but he wants to see for himself if they're true. Th there's ⁓ an anthropomorphic ⁓ Yo, It's Carrie: Right, right. Mm-hmm. Okay. Todd: way that God kind of creates tells the story as if he's a character in his own story. And ⁓ so I don't know. I just don't know how much value there is. I will say this. I wanted to say this to people. Last week I I felt like I made a little bit of a hash out of that whole total depravity thing when I went back and listened to it. And I did some more looking into it and I just thought I don't think Augustine's a Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Todd: view was what I thought. I think it was more Calvin. But anyway, when I got to the bottom of all of it, I thought I I'm probably found that I was most kind of on line with Catholic doctrine actually on original sin, which was interesting. But but there's there's an idea that man does that no doubt man is irrede irredeemably lost and then he can't he can't save himself. We can't we can't we don't get to contribute to our own Yo, It's Carrie: Okay. Mm. Right. Todd: Salvation. But I it does make some sense that that because God created us good, that there is still some inherent goodness, although not goodness of the sort that we could take it and and turn it into we can be so good that we can save ourselves. Do you know what I mean? Yo, It's Carrie: Right. We can can right. We can contribute to our faith, but we can't contribute to our salvation. Yeah. Todd: Right. And so basically there's some embers left, but it's God who has to blow on ⁓ maybe is the way to think of it. And get the fire rolling again. You know what I mean? And those embers aren't much good on their own and they will go out. But if God's blowing on ⁓ then then maybe there's some hope. I think maybe is the best way to think about it. I just wanted to go back and say that. I th afterwards I thought, ⁓ and if you guys want to get into it more on your own you can. That's not really what we do on Beers with Jesus. But because I Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. Ha ha. Todd: So because I wandered into it, I felt like I should address it again. So anyway. But yeah, I just thought I I you know I considered should we deal with the whole with the flood is the whole thing, and I thought, no, we'll just take the chapters because I wanna I wanted to look at first of all the step of faith to actually do it. Like once he once God shuts you in, once you're in the storm, I mean Yo, It's Carrie: Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Right. Todd: Ready or not, here we come. It doesn't matter. You don't have a whole lot of control. It doesn't take much faith to hold on in the ark. It's that hundred years beforehand that's saying, you know what? This doesn't make any sense to me, but but but I know God's telling me this and I'm gonna step out in faith on it anyway, and then not see anything for a while. Yo, It's Carrie: That's true. Right. ⁓ mm-hmm. Mm. Right. Todd: Because because God's the master farmer. He's at work on something and he he planted a seed in you. But but I at least if other people are anything like me, that all I want is like seed plant. It's the it's not the three months in between. Yo, It's Carrie: Right. Well, you know what? It's it's so interesting you just said that too about that that period of of waiting because I feel like we've talked before about how it's hard to I mean, it is easier to turn to God when everything is when you're in a storm, when life's really throwing you some challenges and you say it's easier, but like I think people tend to do that. Yet when everything's fine, when nothing's really happening, let's say Todd: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yo, It's Carrie: during the building years, during Noah's building years. You know, it really it takes a lot of work to keep that faith strong. And then you said, then when you're just wait, like when there's nothing, that like that's the hardest when you don't even feel like God's doing anything. Todd: Right. Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Like you go to bed at night and you can hear you may not have heard it, but you know people are laughing at ya 'cause they see this big forty five foot tall box, a wooden box in your yard. ⁓ Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. On the sand on the sand Todd: No zoning laws are allowing this. They're like, what is going on? It is interesting though. It's interesting to think that that that over that hundred years Noah is building a monument to God's grace and God's salvation. And that they're looking at it where w who knows where we'll get in beers with Jesus and where we won't. But in Exodus, after the children of of of Israel God frees them from Egypt and everything, Yo, It's Carrie: Right. Todd: They they kind of they they complain and they turn on God and he sends snakes among them. And the snakes bite ⁓ And and the only way for them for them to to live, to be healed, is Moses makes a serpent, a bronze serpent, puts it on a pole and holds it up, and the people have to look to the serpent and believe that God will heal ⁓ And it's the same kind of thing here. If you think about Noah building this massive thing, and the people going by it, and that's Yo, It's Carrie: ⁓ Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Todd: gonna be the source of all human salvation. And they're mostly mocking it. Not much different than they mocked Jesus on the cross. Almost everybody who walked by. They said, Look, he saved others, but himself he can't save. And it's that same exact parallel. And we're gonna see that all all through, but it's Yo, It's Carrie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Todd: Jesus is our ark of salvation and and we're and Jesus had to believe it enough to do to to to do his ministry. I think we sometimes think that Jesus didn't have any choice. That he was just like a robot that was programmed by Elon to come in and do everything he did. And I but I don't think it was like that. I think Jesus had to make a choice every day like Noah did and like we do. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: And he had to get up and he had to know he's moving towards the cross and think, I guess I'm gonna heal these people today anyway. I just you know, he had to be tired. We know he was tired at times. We know he was frustrated, we know you know, all these all these emotions that we deal with on a day, all of these emotions that fight us from taking the same the steps of faith are the same things that Noah had to deal with. Same thing that Enoch had to deal with, same thing that ⁓ you know what I mean? Yo, It's Carrie: Yeah. Mm. Mm-hmm. Right. Todd: And we're called to the same thing. We're just called to believe, trust, and then step out and obey. Put on the tool belt and get to work. I guess. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm. Todd: Building the kingdom today, not building an ark, but the kingdom's the same thing. The kingdom of God, the body of Christ, is God's means of salvation for this generation. So we're building the same ark every day, too. Assuming that we believe that he's gonna come back. You know? So Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Interesting. Well, I think it's pretty impressive how obedient he was. It must have been a challenge. And I just I mean I can't even I can't even wrap my head around it. Todd: What do you think, Carrie? Yeah. Ha ha. Right. No, I know. Yo, It's Carrie: I mean, that's just enormous. And and I didn't realize it took that long, so I'm glad you mentioned that. Todd: Well, there's about a hundred years between. Now, how long did it actually take? But you're right, he's doing other things at the same time. I mean they have to live for the hundred years, they have to grow crops, they have you know, livestock, same thing. They have so all the things in normal life. Which again, that's how's that any different than us when God calls us to something and we think all the other things we have to do just to live? Like, don't you know I don't have time for all this. I don't know. Yo, It's Carrie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Right? Like you want me to do what? Well Yeah, so there's lots more lots more to come. Action pack Genesis, who knew? Todd: Lots more coming next week, guys. Who knew? All right, Carrie, I think we did a pretty good job today. A little shorter today, guys, we'll get into we'll be back next week. ⁓ check out Beers with Jesus or the Wildly Opinionated News Hour. You're in Beers with Jesus. And listen, we've got new listeners. We appreciate you guys. 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