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"I Don't Trust Nick Sirianni" - Stoutland Exit Changes EVERYTHING | ZK's Take · The National Football Show with Dan Sileo

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, there's going to be about 130 million people watching this bad puppy on Sunday, but I don't know, man, maybe it's because it's in the Pacific Northwest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Seattle, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got the Patriots that are kind of new.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe people are jacked up about seeing that team back into Super Bowl again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Should have just promoted Stout O.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's ever been an office coordinator, like in his entire coaching career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he has.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys, had a great conversation today on Bird 365, by the way, let me see here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Real quick, before we get big Z and here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see here, anybody drop a nugget in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think somebody drop may have,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here, there we go, much respect for Howard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know Jalen didn't play, didn't play good, but to say, potato wasn't the problem, come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's had no feel for the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That trope, I agree, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Nick, we're gonna get to you here in a minute, because I wanna get to Zander, and I wanna get the big Z stocks here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's do that next without further ado, we bring our boy in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big Z, Andrew Kraus joins us now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, it's been a wild one for 24 hours as it not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It has.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right when you're showing to guests that a eruption unfolded in Eagle Land.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, great job on the breaking news, too, that thing blew up like a dog.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good show, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was in the car most of the afternoon, but I did catch your interview with Angelo, and I caught most of your interview with Howard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's funny that I feel as though what's happened in the last 24 hours has almost triggered something in me.
3:06
[SPEAKER_03]: An Angelo surmised it pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know a lot of people think of Angelo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and he does always have a take and that's part of his stick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of what he said was really true about surrounding this team with a bunch of inefficient or at least inexperienced coaches and you really booed out the one guy on offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: who really truly did have that like to stand on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've been a, I think I've been a Nick Seriani defender, which I call me Nick Seri, for the moment, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if I don't trust them in this moment where you get rid of stout and hey, you know, I can also explain very simply why he's doing this, but I won't get to that, but I don't trust them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I trusted it more when they were structure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I trusted it more when Jeff Stoutman is managing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I trusted more when Vic Fangio's there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I trusted more when Lane Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now that now that some of those old guard
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, foundational pieces are not in place anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel as though that, you know, I don't trust it as much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that to me tells me a little bit more about how what I really think about Nick than what, you know, maybe I try and tell myself, because he does have a good resume.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not, that hasn't changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what you're just giving me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't get, doesn't getting rid of Vic Fangeo and Jeff Stoutland, give more,
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[SPEAKER_01]: autonomy to the head coach and more power to the head coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you get those voices out of his locker room, doesn't he get most of the credit then?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the team continues the win, don't you?
5:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes, look at us, don't you think when Doug got fired?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did it the majority of the fanbase turned to how he
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though there's Doug fans, people now don't you think Doug not being in the building gave more of the success of the team and more of how the team was built to how he did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Nick had the success.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So as Angela eloquently stated, even if they don't like Nick or don't think he's good,
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[SPEAKER_03]: the only way to logically get him out of the building is to put the ship on his shoulders.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the only way to disband for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because now, you know, think about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're thinking about how, they're not going to fire howly, but it's going to look interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to have how many coaches now for howly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they want to make it look better for everybody included.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So now let me give you the other side of why I think Nick's doing this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if it is Nick, I do wonder, I have to throw this in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The owner has pushed with wanting these types of offenses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's his history.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what he's always coveted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I can't just completely rule out that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So his desire over rules the reality of the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are no plans or not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At the end of the day, I think Angela is right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is more on Nick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying, I'm just throwing in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got you back of everybody's mind that the owner, that's what he wants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: pushed out the door of Jeff Stoutland's bullshit.
6:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's completely not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's insanity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's in a way, broken.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, remember what wasn't on here a couple of weeks ago as much as I defended Nick or even last week saying, if anybody thinks that you should be hiring Cliff King's Barry over keeping Stoutland, I think you're an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure I said almost exactly that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I've always felt this about Stoutland that that him that he was the wrong move.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now let me try and explain why I think Nick is doing this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's been back to no corner in a way with his own offense, and as simple as it was and as successful as it was, things were condensing on that offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and the league is caught up to it potentially.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They weren't prolific enough passing the football to be able to make up for any deficiencies that they developed in the run game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Defense is eventually figured it out where they didn't have to focus too much in the past game to take away the shot plays, they can stack the box for the most most part and stop the run and take it away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So his offense was condensing in, and that's like one tree bridge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And most of the NFL lives over here on this big oak tree, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're like this little small prune flower that Nixon Rianne printed planted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you got the McVay Shannon tree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every offensive coach is linked to this tree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every offensive coach wants to play this way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now Nixon Rianne is thinking, I'm gonna go out either way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the upside of the offense and currently running is no longer what it once was, I might as well give us a shot to experience the upsides or give us the landing pad for what the West Coast spread offense would give us as opposed to dying in my offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because look, if it failed, if they stayed the same and it failed, he's fired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: if it changes and he's failed and fails, he's fired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, if you're going to be fired either way without reaching great expectations, wouldn't you rather give yourself an end to team and I think Nick is somewhat self-adjusted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your self-closer to the sun with this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you move yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What he's now done is what every coordinator
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's boomer bust.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's now closer before he wasn't closer to the sun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll ask you, are they changing this offense for Nick or Jalen?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Nick is changing it from pressure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the pressure is coming from people who think Nick is wrong way, late, from people who think Nick is wrong that Jalen can run an offense like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Nick's belief is that with Jalen, my best way to win is not this offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's been proven largely right with how much they've won the last couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the pressure comes from the owner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the pressure comes from the fanbase.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the pressure comes from the fact that the reality is, for get my opinion, your opinion, anybody listening to opinion, I'm talking to you listening right now, not sales.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You listening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't really matter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The truth is that Jeffrey Lerry will fire him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That art opinions don't matter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He'll fire him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if Nick knows that, you know, I think he looks at it as maybe trying to, all right, let's see, it made the arm roll.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if he's wrong, by the way, guess what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He looks like he looks like a genius now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause he flipped the offense, the manion, got rid of all these other guys, brought in all the new guard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if it works, next to genius, if it doesn't work, he's fired either way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it works, Nick will go down as one of the top coaches and my eyes in pro football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it doesn't, it'll be exactly what I thought of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The impact now of just out enough being there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that have on Lane Johnson?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Huge, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm thinking of, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he basically said he was crying and called you if he didn't have, he couldn't, he couldn't get a word out or sent, couldn't piece together or sentence, but I mean, look at the offensive lines going to care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't sit here in an act like that's that's the death now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not, I mean, look, the offensive long can care about a coach is they're all businessmen, they're all professionals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They all understand at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct, deposits matter exactly right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I don't think that's going to be the the end all and that's what I come back to with Lane, like Lane loves Jeff, yes, but Lane has a legacy and a career and and his own personal desires and and and a lot of them might have nothing to do with
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[SPEAKER_03]: and just Jeff's down and hanging them up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we'll be enough reason for laying to submit to them unless Wayne really does want to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't think it would be because of Jeff, but I do think it's a factor in his decision yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's add this one now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and to me, Zander, I'm gonna go into positive end, believe it or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm a J-Brown, don't make do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're changing, does that mean more volume passing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: because either I hate the quarterback style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe he hates jail and I think it's style of play and all that shit that he hates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But does it this make AJ do this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, they want to try to get the ball in the air now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't I want to be part of that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that's kind of an olive branch to go, I told you, do we want the offense to go through you now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not partly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, where I think your right is that I think AJ's looking, where I think you overstated it,
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[SPEAKER_03]: is that I'm not sure whether AJ thinks it's jailing or not.
12:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't think he thinks it's jailing.
12:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right in the back of the neck issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think in a vacuum, yes, AJ thinks that the philosophy of the team is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fundamentally wrong.
12:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's trying to change it now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me get it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am not going to turn a blind eye to the degradation of the relationship between jail and nature.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to be a counselor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to be a psychologist.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to, I don't care if their buddies are not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just trying to read the T-Leas of what's going on with the Eagles organization.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think jailan and AJ are obviously on the terms that they once were.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who cares?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, get in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not worried about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are we sure that he doesn't think it's jailing at all?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we can make that statement definitively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so help me understand this.
13:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a 33-year-old OC.
13:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Kevin Patulos.
13:39
[SPEAKER_01]: How does Kevin Patulos still have a job and Jeff Stoutland started?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If he's still on this organization where we get the train or there's a picture on my timeline next year
13:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh, dude, if you're gonna put your, I mean, wait a second.
13:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Angelos said it's like a friend house.
14:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, Nick's here, Rihani.
14:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, but this isn't awful.
14:03
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll go ahead and do you know what I mean?
14:05
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about this a little bit ago when we were talking about the Italian mob and like, I hate rats, it's a fundamental thing in me.
14:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like people who turn on people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, you can't do this.
14:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Nick's takes stitches, bitch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nick's next turn on everybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And boy, I know we brought up Brian Johnson, perhaps too much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But doesn't bring that back in the morning again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said he does stand up for his coaches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't add all dude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And part of you can say, yeah, it's all right.
14:31
[SPEAKER_03]: It is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got the, he's the one with the $15 million job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to keep his job before he puts someone else first.
14:39
[SPEAKER_03]: To a degree, we're all selfish, aren't we all?
14:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're all interested in the degree.
14:43
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, like, you blew everything.
14:53
[SPEAKER_03]: You blew up Ryan Johnson.
14:54
[SPEAKER_03]: That guy doesn't have an O.C.
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[SPEAKER_03]: job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You blew out your boy, Patulo.
14:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Who, again, I don't think Patulo was good, but really, are we going to sit here and say that the entire offensive problem group of Patulo?
15:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Guys, our offense hasn't been that good for a couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the running game took a step back and the past game took a small step forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't think Patulo was good, but I don't think Patulo was the number one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The only issue on the Eagles offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think it went down like this?
15:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, I have to wonder how much of this played a factor in Vic fangeos, waffling back and forth.
15:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And follow me when I say this, maybe, maybe.
15:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're thick and you're watching Jeff Stoutland, go back and forth and the only coach that Vic probably respects over there on that side with the length of career that he's had and what he's done in this league.
15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, if you could do that to Jeff Stoutland, you could fucking do that to anybody.
15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Means you don't really have respect for any coach.
16:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They did it to Doug, they did it to Andy.
16:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They've done it to everyone.
16:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the only difference is Doug had a backbone and said, I'm not firing my guys.
16:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Put it on me.
16:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff, Jeff went like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not listening to the 30-year-old snuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember, but there's also a fundamental accountability thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nick, Nick, Nick will point to finger when it's convenient.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Doug said, up, they're not the problem.
16:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
16:25
[SPEAKER_03]: If you think there's a problem on the problem, fire me.
16:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't fire the offensive coordinator and keep me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you have a problem, fire me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nick, Nick used to say at the podium every other week, this is my offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care who pulls it, it's my offense.
16:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the offense falls flat.
16:43
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, see you, Petul, let's bring it a new scheme.
16:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it.
16:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, it just comes across as sneaky to me.
16:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's lazy.
16:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's lazy is hell.
16:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:54
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, how do you think this affects Jalen hurts in 26?
17:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's boomer boss to be honest.
17:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Jalen's either going to have one of that.
17:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So the coach and the quarterback,
17:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the whole setup is boomer boss now.
17:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you did, if you didn't, look, if Jalen comes out.
17:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, if you think they tied them together, really here now.
17:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they look like they tied both of them together here.
17:21
[SPEAKER_03]: They do, but it's for different reasons in my opinion, okay?
17:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Jalen is going to have to now operate at different style of offense.
17:28
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a different role for him.
17:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, it just needs to keep having success.
17:32
[SPEAKER_03]: In a way, it doesn't matter what way it gets done, as long as wins keep adding up, you know, I think Nick is, that's what he's going for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jalen, I think I'm not really good at it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Confident one way or the other here like I don't I don't think jail and hurts can't do it I really don't I know a lot of people are jail and I don't I don't believe it can I don't think he can't do it I don't think he can do it to the level of some people But I also believe inherently that there's more that jail and hurts has in the tank
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[SPEAKER_03]: that jail and hurts can give you more as a player.
18:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you get him in the right coach or the right scheme in the right system and somebody who understands him as a player, you can get more out of that guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's my fundamental belief.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I also recognized that he's never been a high volume passer at any level of a career.
18:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Whenever he's been put in that environment, they've either had major turnovers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: or they scaled it back like you did with Kell and Moore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Remember if we everybody remembers, Kell and Moore was brought in for a similar reason, not to make they tree, but he was the pro style passing off and he's what everybody wanted for weeks and then they've reverted back to Nick system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I can't just get rid of that contact.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why I'm like dead in the middle.
18:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Jaylin could literally
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[SPEAKER_03]: not succeed in the offense and John and you will bet we'll be like I could have told you that and I'll understand why you said that.
18:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But I could also see him coming out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could also see Sean Manion recognizing he can't just throw it 35 times again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you can create different avenues where he throws 25 to 30 times, but you have a little bit more of a, you know, a different looking scheme, you can, you can give them easy way up, so you can allow them to get in the rhythm as a player, that's one of the things that's always bothered me about the way they coach Jalen, they don't let them get in rhythm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know like I see other quarterbacks to give them easy throws early and often give them a couple check downs give them a couple easy throws get them feeling it I always felt like the Eagles never did that first throw was like 13 yard outwrap I'm like come on and give them a freaking lie up so if if you get a coach that can mesh some of that I think Jaylin can be better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
19:38
[SPEAKER_01]: All right now you believe in human
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[SPEAKER_01]: human nature, right?
19:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You believe that there's a human nature element to people's life, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Provide survival, right?
19:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, by the way, you and me, our families are important.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to look at our families more, right?
19:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe in that myself, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're next area, and you see jail and hurts, failing in this offense, I'm going to pull the plug in that guy and I'm going to pull that guy and I'm going to do whatever it takes to win because I care about my job,
20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on, you just got through saying to me, Scott doesn't defend anybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not how it works and fill.
20:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you.
20:17
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not how it works.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, you would think every move he made.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you taking a reason?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And every disciple, you think Nick's going to die and defy him with him.
20:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Because every scapegoat next ever had has been one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: An assistant coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: An assistant coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not a player.
20:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's going to come from upstairs because they did it to once.
20:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And what happened to Doug when he sat once that's right.
20:43
[SPEAKER_03]: He they never that was not an organizational Sit down a lot of people think the organization said the dog to sit once no no no no
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[SPEAKER_03]: Doug Peterson made the decision to bench Carson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeffrey, glory will decide to bench once.
20:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wasn't Jeffrey, and that's why we'll decide to bench hurts.
21:02
[SPEAKER_03]: That was part of the reason.
21:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So Nick Seriani, my opinion, is not in anyone.
21:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick knows how to play the political game better than anybody.
21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to go to jail.
21:12
[SPEAKER_03]: That means keeping jail in him the game.
21:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you right now, he's not going to bench jailing because the owner's going to jail him.
21:17
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to help her down with the ship.
21:19
[SPEAKER_03]: he's going down with the ship or the ship is going to fly.
21:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
21:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the other dudes.
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, man.
21:25
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no way.
21:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say I'm going to make up.
21:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to make up.
21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going down with that guy.
21:32
[SPEAKER_03]: My bold prediction is this.
21:34
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what the ending is going to be.
21:36
[SPEAKER_03]: No, what will not happen is Nick Seriani will create an off ramp for himself where he survives and genuine in the rest of the offense go down.
21:47
[SPEAKER_03]: That will never happen.
21:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you right now, it will never happen.
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So the exiting of Stoutlin has now created their both tied together in this.
21:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's tied together?
22:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think in a way, but I think jailing is easy.
22:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going now with them and you're not, but when you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him, where you're playing with him
22:28
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to see it.
22:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, you have the same opinion as me.
22:32
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not to disagree.
22:34
[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing I'm telling you right now is they're not going to give them the same leash.
22:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I want 100% promise you, not the same leash.
22:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I guarantee that they'll blow Nick out.
22:45
[SPEAKER_03]: They will blow it because like you just said, this is the Nick creation.
22:50
[SPEAKER_03]: This is it.
22:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick and his guys and the offense and the, and you got to stout when up, this is Nick, bro.
22:56
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about the 20, 26 season right now today?
23:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess it's called Eagle Glasses.
23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a small slither of me that thinks that this thing could work.
23:08
[SPEAKER_03]: where the offense could come in and maybe the change is necessary.
23:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's needed and maybe Sean Manion is a little smarter than we're giving him credit for.
23:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he understands how to get more out of jail and while also not putting jail in a sinking environment.
23:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's about 10% of me.
23:26
[SPEAKER_03]: But right now it doesn't feel good.
23:27
[SPEAKER_03]: You get, you let the best offensive coach in the locker room leave and you kept all the steps.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You think his phones ring enough to hook right now?
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Jeff Stout.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we need it.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I would hate to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Jeff Stout and go to New York with the Giants.
23:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, well, I got it.
23:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to address the guy.
23:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew these were calm.
23:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's always from Seniors.
23:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Seniors, I love you, buddy.
23:47
[SPEAKER_03]: But man, you said, make some dumb comments.
23:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Now all of a sudden, Zander's going to blame next.
23:51
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Seniors, I want to teach you something in life, right?
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: In life, there's called information.
23:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a steady supply of new information that happens in life.
24:01
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're stagnant in opinions, you're going to get left behind and you're not going to have updated information.
24:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Something really big happened after I got off the show yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really big of new information.
24:14
[SPEAKER_03]: That new information has allowed me or given me the opportunity to open up my scope of what goes into my opinions.
24:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And this has changed that because Jeff's down there is no small change.
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that's, that's a, that's a meteoric change.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a huge change.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's, that's not just, that's not just shits and giggles here, bro.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just not, all right, see, let me say goodbye here, man.
24:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a really, really, really, it's been, it's been a remarkable 24 hours to say that.
24:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I mean, it's, you know, I do honestly though, you're trying to thought here on this.
24:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a little upsetting now.
24:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
24:55
[SPEAKER_03]: This is really real quick.
24:57
[SPEAKER_03]: My final thought is this, sorry to hold you every time.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not.
25:03
[SPEAKER_03]: My final thought is this.
25:04
[SPEAKER_03]: It's upsetting because this is a team that has two Super Bowls and it's history and it's franchise history.
25:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can literally dumb down those Super Bowls to the bone and know what the bone would be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The bone would be the offensive line and both of whom are coaxed by this man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Both of them, and one year or one year of, it wasn't even that bad for a year, one middle year of running.
25:32
[SPEAKER_03]: and next theory on who I have defended.
25:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you better be fucking right about Sean Manion.
25:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you that, man, you better be right because you just fired or pushed Jeff Stout without the door for a dude that we don't know a lick about him.
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, did you see that post of his, did you see that post of his?
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell you what, man, he didn't mention anybody but the Eagle fans.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff Stoutland.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't say there was some word salad of course by the Eagles.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He just he didn't mention Lori he didn't mention anybody but the Eagle fans and said thank you to them and said Stout out.
26:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're in the PR campaign made the social team make a grill.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just feeding it right now.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, big Steve, you're going to have another big show tomorrow.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I guarantee you want to push me.
26:28
[SPEAKER_03]: What a shame.
26:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I appreciate you, man.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, man, I'll see.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you in a second here.
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Folks, thank you very much.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: No question about it, man.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Football Friday, it's Super Bowl Friday, actually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Getting ready for the game on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk extensively about that.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's going to be more coming out of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will see you two to six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you again, and we'll catch you on the flip side.