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A Tale of Two Stories: The Impact of Educator Decisions · The Wheelhouse

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  It's
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  episode
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  two
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  of
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  season
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  ten
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  and
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  today
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  it's
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  the
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  tale
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  of
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  two
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  stories.
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  A
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  new
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  episode
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  of
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  the
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  Wheelhouse
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  begins
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  right
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  now.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  taking
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  time
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  out
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  of
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  your
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  busy
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  day
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  to
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  give
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  us
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  a
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  listen.
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  Season
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  10
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  features
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  a
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  team
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  of
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  four
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  like
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  minded
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  friends
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  and
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  colleagues.
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  Kathy,
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  Monique,
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  Michael
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  Pipa,
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  Dr.
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  Alicia
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  Munro,
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  and
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  yours
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  truly.
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  We've
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  opened
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  the
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  conversation
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  this
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  season
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  to
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  think
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  about
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  empowering
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  educators
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  to
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  cultivate
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  hope.
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  In
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  our
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  second
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  episode
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  of
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  season
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  10,
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  we
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  recorded
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  in
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  a
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  slightly
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  different
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  format.
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  Kathy
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  couldn't
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  join
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  us
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  for
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  a
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  regular
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  recording
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  session
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  in
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  the
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  studio,
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  so
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  she
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  listened
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  to
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  the
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  conversation
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  Alicia,
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  Michael
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  and
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  I
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  had
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  and
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  then
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  she
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  got
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  to
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  share
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  her
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  own
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  thoughts
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  afterward.
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  It
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  was
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  an
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  unplanned,
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  yet
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  really
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  interesting,
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  intriguing
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  way
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  to
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  record
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  the
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  episode.
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  I
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  hope
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  you
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  like
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  it
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  as
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  much
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  as
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  I
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  do.
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  Remember,
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  the
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  Wheelhouse
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  exists
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  to
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  create
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  an
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  inclusive
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  community
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  of
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  empowered
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  educators
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  who
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  believe
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  that
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  together
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  we
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  can
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  disrupt
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  the
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  transactional
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  herding
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  nature
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  of
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  schooling.
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  To
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  create
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  districts,
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  schools
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  and
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  classrooms
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  where
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  each
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  student
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  feels
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  confident,
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  optimistic,
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  capable,
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  well
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  supported
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  and
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  emboldened
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  to
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  be
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  and
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  to
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  become
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  who
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  they're
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  meant
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  to
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  be.
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  Today
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  we're
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  talking
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  about
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  what
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  it
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  means
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  to
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  create
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  open
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  doors
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  and
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  unlimited
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  opportunities
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  for
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  each
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  student
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  ahead
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  of
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  time.
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  I
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  thought
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  we
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  were
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  going
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  to
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  have
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  a
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  really
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  provocative
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  conversation
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  about
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  this
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  idea,
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  but
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  what
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  really
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  transpired
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  was
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  this
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  tale
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  of
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  two
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  stories
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  and
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  the
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  and
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  how
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  this
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  tale
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  altered
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  the
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  journey
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  towards
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  self
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  authorship
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  for
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  each
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  of
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  them.
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  I
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  guarantee
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  you
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  you're
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  not
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  going
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  to
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  want
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  to
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  miss
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  one
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  word
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  of
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  this
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  episode.
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  And
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  keep
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  in
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  mind
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  that
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  at
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  the
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  end
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  of
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  the
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  day,
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  what
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  we
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  do
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  for
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  some
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  children
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  is
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  even
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  bigger
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  than
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  cultivating
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  hope,
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  creating
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  open
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  doors.
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  It's
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  a
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  matter
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  of
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  life
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  and
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  death.
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  This
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  was
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  a
• 2:13
  great
• 2:13
  conversation.
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  There
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  were
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  so
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  many
• 2:16
  intriguing
• 2:16
  ideas
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  like
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  self
• 2:18
  authorship
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  that
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  were
• 2:19
  brought
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  to
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  this
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  space.
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  Listen
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  to
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  the
• 2:22
  entire
• 2:22
  episode
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  to
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  hear
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  the
• 2:23
  details
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  together.
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  Let's
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  ensure
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  open
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  doors
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  and
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  unlimited
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  possibilities
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  for
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  each
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  and
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  every
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  student.
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  And
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  now,
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  episode
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  two
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  and
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  a
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  great
• 2:33
  conversation
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  with
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  Kathy
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  Mone,
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  Michael
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  Pipa,
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  Dr.
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  Alicia
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  Monroe
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  and
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  me.
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  You're
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  not
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  going
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  to
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  want
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  to
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  miss
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  it.
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  Take
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  a
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  listen.
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  Good
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  morning,
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  I'm
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  Grant
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  Chandler
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  and
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  we
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  are
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  back
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  for
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  another
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  episode
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  of
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  the
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  Wheelhouse.
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  The
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  team
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  is
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  in
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  the
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  space.
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  Happy
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  Tuesday
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  to
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  my
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  dear
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  friends
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  and
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  colleagues,
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  Michael
• 3:01
  Piper
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  and
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  Alicia
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  Munroe.
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  Good
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  morning.
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  Good
• 3:05
  morning.
• 3:05
  Good
• 3:06
  morning.
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  Happy
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  Tuesday.
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  Happy
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  Tuesday.
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  We're
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  going
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  to
• 3:10
  record
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  in
• 3:11
  a
• 3:11
  different.
• 3:11
  We're
• 3:12
  going
• 3:12
  to
• 3:12
  be
• 3:12
  creative
• 3:12
  today.
• 3:13
  Kathy
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  Moni
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  is
• 3:14
  unavailable
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  to
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  us
• 3:16
  this
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  morning,
• 3:17
  so
• 3:17
  she's
• 3:18
  gonna
• 3:18
  join
• 3:18
  us
• 3:18
  at
• 3:19
  the
• 3:19
  end
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  the
• 3:19
  episode.
• 3:20
  So
• 3:20
  I'm
• 3:20
  gonna
• 3:20
  record
• 3:21
  her
• 3:21
  separately
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  and
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  we'll
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  tie
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  it
• 3:25
  all
• 3:25
  together
• 3:25
  into
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  a
• 3:26
  nice
• 3:26
  little
• 3:26
  package.
• 3:27
  So
• 3:28
  Kathy,
• 3:29
  good
• 3:29
  morning
• 3:29
  to
• 3:29
  you
• 3:30
  as
• 3:30
  well.
• 3:31
  So
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  hey,
• 3:32
  episode
• 3:32
  one
• 3:33
  just
• 3:33
  dropped
• 3:33
  about
• 3:33
  two
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  hours
• 3:34
  ago.
• 3:34
  We're
• 3:35
  recording
• 3:35
  episode
• 3:36
  two
• 3:36
  now.
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  Season
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  10
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  is
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  in
• 3:38
  full
• 3:38
  swing.
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  know
• 3:40
  you
• 3:40
  can't
• 3:40
  see
• 3:40
  cause
• 3:41
  this
• 3:41
  is
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  podcast,
• 3:42
  but
• 3:42
  Alicia
• 3:43
  and
• 3:43
  Michael
• 3:43
  are
• 3:43
  smiling
• 3:44
  from
• 3:44
  ear
• 3:44
  to
• 3:45
  ear
• 3:45
  and
• 3:45
  it
• 3:45
  is
• 3:45
  so
• 3:46
  great
• 3:46
  to
• 3:46
  see
• 3:46
  you
• 3:46
  all.
• 3:47
  It
• 3:47
  was
• 3:48
  a
• 3:48
  great
• 3:48
  episode
• 3:49
  last
• 3:49
  time
• 3:50
  as
• 3:51
  we
• 3:51
  talked
• 3:51
  about
• 3:51
  how
• 3:51
  to
• 3:52
  engage
• 3:52
  with
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  Wheelhouse
• 3:54
  company
• 3:54
  following
• 3:55
  us
• 3:55
  on
• 3:55
  Instagram
• 3:56
  or
• 3:56
  LinkedIn,
• 3:58
  joining
• 3:59
  the
• 3:59
  conversation
• 3:59
  and
• 4:00
  subscribing
• 4:00
  to
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  Wheelhouse
• 4:01
  Chronicle
• 4:01
  on
• 4:02
  Substack,
• 4:03
  where
• 4:03
  you'll
• 4:04
  get
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  interact
• 4:04
  with
• 4:04
  Michael
• 4:05
  Pipa
• 4:05
  and
• 4:05
  the
• 4:05
  rest
• 4:06
  of
• 4:06
  us
• 4:06
  for
• 4:07
  real
• 4:07
  in
• 4:07
  person
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  of
• 4:09
  course
• 4:09
  even
• 4:10
  diving
• 4:10
  deeper
• 4:11
  into
• 4:11
  that
• 4:11
  if
• 4:11
  you
• 4:12
  would
• 4:12
  like
• 4:12
  in
• 4:13
  Learn
• 4:13
  harbor
• 4:13
  with
• 4:14
  the
• 4:14
  Wheelhouse
• 4:15
  Forum.
• 4:17
  So
• 4:17
  hey,
• 4:17
  today
• 4:18
  let's
• 4:19
  talk
• 4:19
  about
• 4:19
  this
• 4:20
  theme
• 4:21
  for
• 4:21
  season
• 4:22
  10,
• 4:23
  which
• 4:23
  is
• 4:24
  open
• 4:24
  doors
• 4:24
  and
• 4:25
  unlimited
• 4:25
  possibilities.
• 4:26
  And
• 4:26
  it
• 4:26
  really
• 4:27
  builds
• 4:27
  upon
• 4:28
  what
• 4:28
  we
• 4:29
  were
• 4:29
  talking
• 4:29
  about.
• 4:29
  If
• 4:30
  you
• 4:30
  Season
• 4:31
  nine,
• 4:31
  Alicia
• 4:32
  kind
• 4:33
  of
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  an
• 4:33
  organic
• 4:34
  way
• 4:35
  crafted
• 4:35
  the
• 4:36
  theme
• 4:36
  for
• 4:36
  season
• 4:37
  nine.
• 4:37
  We
• 4:37
  kept
• 4:37
  talking
• 4:38
  about
• 4:39
  cultivating
• 4:39
  hope
• 4:40
  or
• 4:40
  killing
• 4:41
  dreams
• 4:41
  and
• 4:42
  that
• 4:42
  paradigm
• 4:43
  that
• 4:43
  it's
• 4:44
  one
• 4:44
  or
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  other
• 4:44
  with
• 4:45
  nothing
• 4:45
  in
• 4:46
  between.
• 4:47
  And
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  think
• 4:47
  a
• 4:47
  natural
• 4:48
  follow
• 4:48
  up
• 4:49
  to
• 4:49
  that
• 4:49
  which
• 4:49
  kind
• 4:50
  of
• 4:50
  extends
• 4:50
  the
• 4:51
  idea
• 4:51
  is
• 4:51
  this
• 4:52
  idea
• 4:52
  of
• 4:52
  open
• 4:53
  doors
• 4:53
  and
• 4:54
  unlimited
• 4:55
  possibilities.
• 4:56
  So
• 4:56
  today
• 4:56
  we're
• 4:57
  just
• 4:57
  going
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  explore
• 4:58
  that.
• 4:58
  What
• 4:59
  does
• 4:59
  that
• 4:59
  mean?
• 5:00
  What
• 5:00
  does
• 5:00
  that
• 5:01
  mean
• 5:01
  for
• 5:01
  each
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  us?
• 5:02
  And
• 5:03
  more
• 5:03
  importantly,
• 5:04
  what
• 5:05
  does
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  mean
• 5:05
  for
• 5:05
  each
• 5:06
  of
• 5:06
  our
• 5:06
  students?
• 5:09
  So
• 5:09
  I've
• 5:09
  been
• 5:11
  doing
• 5:12
  a
• 5:12
  great
• 5:12
  deal
• 5:12
  of
• 5:12
  reflection
• 5:13
  I've
• 5:13
  been
• 5:13
  really
• 5:14
  engaged
• 5:14
  in
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  great
• 5:15
  deal
• 5:15
  of
• 5:15
  reflection
• 5:16
  on
• 5:16
  this
• 5:16
  season's
• 5:17
  theme
• 5:19
  and
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  think
• 5:20
  around
• 5:21
  a
• 5:21
  lot
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  my
• 5:22
  research
• 5:22
  which
• 5:23
  was
• 5:24
  with
• 5:25
  respect
• 5:25
  to
• 5:26
  achieving
• 5:27
  potential
• 5:31
  and
• 5:33
  what
• 5:33
  allows
• 5:34
  the
• 5:35
  flow
• 5:35
  and
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  stream
• 5:37
  for
• 5:37
  educators
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  work
• 5:39
  with
• 5:39
  and
• 5:39
  co
• 5:40
  create
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  space
• 5:40
  with
• 5:41
  students
• 5:42
  where
• 5:43
  we
• 5:43
  can
• 5:44
  help
• 5:44
  them
• 5:44
  identify
• 5:45
  their
• 5:46
  potential
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  how
• 5:48
  we
• 5:49
  move
• 5:49
  them
• 5:49
  from
• 5:50
  building
• 5:51
  agency,
• 5:51
  not
• 5:52
  only
• 5:52
  their
• 5:52
  own
• 5:53
  agency,
• 5:54
  but
• 5:54
  how
• 5:55
  that
• 5:55
  moves
• 5:56
  to
• 5:56
  self
• 5:57
  efficacy
• 5:57
  where
• 5:58
  they
• 5:58
  can
• 5:58
  then
• 5:59
  in
• 5:59
  life
• 6:00
  author
• 6:00
  for
• 6:01
  themselves,
• 6:02
  author
• 6:03
  their
• 6:03
  path.
• 6:05
  So
• 6:05
  I've
• 6:05
  been
• 6:06
  engaged
• 6:06
  in
• 6:06
  a
• 6:07
  great
• 6:07
  deal
• 6:07
  of
• 6:07
  reflection
• 6:08
  around
• 6:08
  that
• 6:09
  as
• 6:09
  I'm
• 6:09
  writing
• 6:10
  now
• 6:11
  and
• 6:11
  thinking
• 6:11
  about
• 6:12
  what
• 6:12
  is
• 6:12
  that
• 6:13
  path
• 6:13
  from
• 6:13
  self
• 6:14
  agency
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  self
• 6:16
  efficacy
• 6:17
  to
• 6:18
  self
• 6:18
  authorship,
• 6:19
  not
• 6:20
  only
• 6:20
  for
• 6:21
  students
• 6:22
  and
• 6:23
  educators,
• 6:24
  but
• 6:24
  around
• 6:25
  humanity.
• 6:27
  So
• 6:27
  that's
• 6:28
  what
• 6:29
  drives
• 6:30
  my
• 6:30
  thinking
• 6:30
  this
• 6:31
  morning.
• 6:31
  Grant,
• 6:32
  you
• 6:32
  know,
• 6:34
  as
• 6:34
  I
• 6:34
  was
• 6:34
  listening
• 6:34
  to
• 6:35
  you,
• 6:36
  of
• 6:36
  course,
• 6:36
  I
• 6:37
  always
• 6:37
  love
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  listen
• 6:37
  to
• 6:38
  you
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  to
• 6:39
  Michael
• 6:39
  as
• 6:39
  well.
• 6:42
  I'm
• 6:42
  struck
• 6:43
  with
• 6:44
  how
• 6:44
  many
• 6:44
  times
• 6:46
  educators
• 6:47
  with
• 6:48
  good
• 6:48
  intentions
• 6:50
  think
• 6:50
  that
• 6:50
  they
• 6:51
  know
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  can
• 6:52
  identify
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  student's
• 6:54
  potential.
• 6:57
  And
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  think,
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  think
• 7:00
  we,
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  think
• 7:01
  we
• 7:01
  can't.
• 7:02
  I
• 7:02
  think
• 7:02
  we're
• 7:03
  wrong.
• 7:03
  I
• 7:04
  think
• 7:04
  we're
• 7:04
  just
• 7:04
  flat
• 7:05
  out
• 7:05
  wrong.
• 7:05
  I
• 7:06
  think
• 7:06
  that
• 7:06
  is
• 7:06
  absolutely
• 7:07
  impossible
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  do.
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  think
• 7:10
  we
• 7:10
  have
• 7:10
  ideas.
• 7:11
  Absolutely
• 7:11
  we
• 7:12
  have
• 7:12
  ideas.
• 7:12
  But
• 7:14
  if
• 7:14
  you
• 7:14
  believe
• 7:15
  in
• 7:15
  self
• 7:15
  efficacy
• 7:16
  and
• 7:16
  agency,
• 7:16
  if
• 7:16
  you
• 7:17
  believe
• 7:17
  in
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  growth
• 7:17
  mindset,
• 7:18
  then
• 7:18
  we
• 7:19
  know
• 7:19
  that
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  sky's
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  limit
• 7:22
  for
• 7:23
  each
• 7:23
  and
• 7:23
  every
• 7:24
  student,
• 7:25
  regardless
• 7:26
  of
• 7:26
  whether
• 7:27
  they
• 7:27
  have
• 7:28
  an
• 7:28
  IEP
• 7:29
  or
• 7:29
  not,
• 7:29
  whether
• 7:30
  they're
• 7:30
  an
• 7:30
  English
• 7:30
  language
• 7:31
  learner
• 7:31
  or
• 7:32
  not,
• 7:32
  regardless
• 7:33
  of
• 7:33
  what
• 7:33
  zip
• 7:34
  code
• 7:34
  they
• 7:34
  come
• 7:35
  from
• 7:35
  or
• 7:35
  any
• 7:35
  other
• 7:36
  way
• 7:37
  that
• 7:37
  they
• 7:37
  identify
• 7:39
  themselves
• 7:39
  or
• 7:40
  are
• 7:40
  identified
• 7:41
  by
• 7:42
  other
• 7:42
  people.
• 7:43
  The
• 7:43
  sky's
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  limit
• 7:44
  because
• 7:46
  there
• 7:47
  are
• 7:47
  so
• 7:47
  many
• 7:48
  examples
• 7:50
  of,
• 7:52
  if
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  want
• 7:53
  that
• 7:53
  badly
• 7:53
  enough,
• 7:56
  I
• 7:57
  can
• 7:57
  get
• 7:57
  it
• 7:58
  right,
• 7:58
  I
• 7:59
  can
• 7:59
  achieve,
• 7:59
  I
• 8:00
  can
• 8:00
  attain
• 8:01
  whatever
• 8:01
  that
• 8:01
  is.
• 8:02
  And
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  think
• 8:03
  for
• 8:04
  me,
• 8:05
  piggybacking
• 8:05
  onto
• 8:05
  what
• 8:06
  Alicia
• 8:06
  said,
• 8:07
  I
• 8:07
  hope
• 8:07
  we
• 8:08
  stop
• 8:09
  identifying
• 8:12
  possibilities
• 8:13
  and
• 8:14
  remember
• 8:14
  that
• 8:14
  they
• 8:14
  are
• 8:15
  unlimited
• 8:16
  and
• 8:16
  let
• 8:16
  students,
• 8:18
  let
• 8:18
  students
• 8:19
  define
• 8:20
  what
• 8:20
  those
• 8:21
  unlimited
• 8:22
  possibilities
• 8:22
  are.
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  love
• 8:25
  the
• 8:26
  deft
• 8:26
  way,
• 8:27
  Alicia,
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  moved
• 8:28
  from
• 8:29
  exploring
• 8:31
  potential
• 8:32
  to
• 8:33
  self
• 8:34
  efficacy
• 8:36
  and
• 8:37
  helping
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  learner
• 8:39
  inhabit
• 8:40
  that
• 8:40
  chair
• 8:41
  of
• 8:41
  authorship
• 8:43
  in
• 8:43
  their
• 8:43
  life
• 8:44
  where
• 8:44
  they
• 8:44
  begin
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  dream
• 8:46
  actively
• 8:47
  about
• 8:48
  what
• 8:48
  their
• 8:49
  life
• 8:50
  is
• 8:50
  going
• 8:50
  to
• 8:51
  look
• 8:51
  like
• 8:52
  beyond
• 8:53
  just
• 8:53
  could
• 8:53
  or
• 8:54
  should,
• 8:54
  what
• 8:54
  it's
• 8:55
  going
• 8:55
  to
• 8:55
  look
• 8:55
  like,
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  moves
• 8:58
  that
• 8:58
  they
• 8:58
  make
• 8:58
  as
• 8:59
  a
• 8:59
  result
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  their
• 9:00
  work
• 9:00
  with
• 9:00
  us,
• 9:01
  more
• 9:02
  experienced
• 9:02
  learners
• 9:03
  who
• 9:04
  have
• 9:04
  walked
• 9:05
  a
• 9:05
  similar
• 9:05
  stretch
• 9:06
  and
• 9:07
  know
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  kind
• 9:08
  of
• 9:08
  nourishment
• 9:09
  and
• 9:09
  conversation
• 9:11
  we
• 9:11
  absolutely
• 9:12
  need
• 9:12
  as
• 9:13
  we're
• 9:13
  doing
• 9:13
  this
• 9:13
  stuff.
• 9:15
  It
• 9:15
  reminded
• 9:16
  me
• 9:16
  of
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  conversation
• 9:18
  I
• 9:18
  had
• 9:18
  when
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  was
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  10th
• 9:19
  grader
• 9:20
  in
• 9:20
  high
• 9:20
  school
• 9:20
  in
• 9:21
  social
• 9:21
  studies
• 9:22
  class.
• 9:22
  We
• 9:22
  had
• 9:23
  gotten
• 9:23
  our
• 9:23
  first
• 9:23
  quarter
• 9:24
  grades
• 9:24
  and
• 9:25
  I
• 9:25
  had
• 9:25
  never
• 9:25
  gotten
• 9:26
  a
• 9:26
  grade
• 9:26
  so
• 9:26
  low
• 9:29
  that
• 9:29
  my
• 9:29
  first
• 9:30
  move
• 9:30
  was,
• 9:32
  he
• 9:32
  must
• 9:32
  have
• 9:33
  made
• 9:33
  a
• 9:33
  mistake.
• 9:35
  So
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  waited
• 9:35
  till
• 9:35
  the
• 9:36
  end
• 9:36
  of
• 9:36
  class
• 9:36
  and
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  approached
• 9:37
  my
• 9:37
  teacher,
• 9:38
  Dr.
• 9:38
  David
• 9:38
  Dupre,
• 9:40
  who
• 9:41
  decided
• 9:41
  to
• 9:41
  engage
• 9:42
  me
• 9:42
  in
• 9:42
  conversation.
• 9:43
  Thank
• 9:44
  God,
• 9:46
  because
• 9:48
  clearly
• 9:48
  he,
• 9:49
  he
• 9:49
  had
• 9:49
  not
• 9:49
  made
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  mistake.
• 9:51
  But
• 9:51
  he
• 9:51
  looked
• 9:52
  at
• 9:52
  me
• 9:52
  and
• 9:52
  he
• 9:52
  said,
• 9:52
  you
• 9:52
  know,
• 9:52
  I
• 9:53
  may
• 9:53
  have.
• 9:53
  Do
• 9:54
  you
• 9:54
  have
• 9:54
  time
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  take
• 9:54
  a
• 9:55
  look
• 9:55
  at
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  grade
• 9:55
  book?
• 9:56
  And
• 9:57
  he
• 9:57
  opened
• 9:57
  it
• 9:57
  up
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  remember
• 9:58
  him
• 9:58
  taking
• 9:58
  the
• 9:59
  sheet
• 9:59
  and
• 9:59
  placing
• 10:00
  it
• 10:00
  underneath
• 10:00
  my
• 10:00
  line
• 10:01
  and
• 10:01
  going
• 10:01
  right
• 10:02
  across
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  numbers.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:03
  it
• 10:04
  took
• 10:04
  all
• 10:04
  of
• 10:05
  about
• 10:05
  a
• 10:05
  second
• 10:06
  for
• 10:06
  me
• 10:07
  to
• 10:07
  look
• 10:07
  at
• 10:07
  those
• 10:07
  numbers
• 10:08
  and
• 10:08
  go,
• 10:09
  oh,
• 10:10
  he
• 10:11
  didn't
• 10:11
  make
• 10:11
  a
• 10:11
  mistake
• 10:12
  at
• 10:12
  all.
• 10:13
  And
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  conversation
• 10:15
  didn't
• 10:15
  end
• 10:15
  there.
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  was
• 10:18
  so
• 10:19
  embarrassed.
• 10:19
  I
• 10:19
  remember
• 10:20
  how
• 10:20
  flushed
• 10:20
  my
• 10:21
  face
• 10:21
  was.
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  apologized
• 10:22
  immediately
• 10:23
  and
• 10:24
  I
• 10:24
  tried
• 10:24
  to
• 10:25
  recover
• 10:25
  myself.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  think
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  said
• 10:26
  something
• 10:26
  like,
• 10:27
  this
• 10:27
  won't
• 10:27
  ever
• 10:28
  happen
• 10:28
  again.
• 10:29
  And
• 10:29
  he
• 10:30
  looked
• 10:30
  at
• 10:30
  me
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  he
• 10:30
  smiled
• 10:31
  and
• 10:31
  he
• 10:31
  said,
• 10:32
  I'm
• 10:32
  getting
• 10:32
  the
• 10:33
  feeling
• 10:33
  it
• 10:33
  won't.
• 10:35
  He
• 10:35
  kept
• 10:36
  such
• 10:36
  a
• 10:36
  careful
• 10:37
  watch
• 10:37
  over
• 10:38
  me
• 10:38
  in
• 10:38
  Quarters
• 10:39
  2,
• 10:39
  3
• 10:40
  and
• 10:41
  4
• 10:41
  and
• 10:42
  by
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  end
• 10:42
  of
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  year,
• 10:44
  celebrated
• 10:45
  my
• 10:45
  success.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:48
  I've
• 10:48
  always
• 10:48
  remembered
• 10:49
  that
• 10:49
  as.
• 10:50
  As
• 10:50
  a
• 10:50
  young
• 10:50
  person
• 10:52
  where
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  was
• 10:52
  going
• 10:52
  through
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  motions
• 10:53
  as
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  student,
• 10:55
  and
• 10:55
  he
• 10:55
  was
• 10:56
  asking
• 10:56
  something
• 10:56
  quite
• 10:57
  different
• 10:57
  from
• 10:57
  us.
• 10:59
  And
• 11:00
  I
• 11:01
  felt
• 11:01
  like
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  care
• 11:02
  in
• 11:03
  that
• 11:03
  conversation
• 11:04
  meant
• 11:04
  I
• 11:05
  wasn't
• 11:05
  going
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  do
• 11:05
  it
• 11:05
  alone.
• 11:06
  He
• 11:07
  was
• 11:07
  really
• 11:07
  interested.
• 11:10
  That's
• 11:10
  just
• 11:10
  a
• 11:11
  snapshot
• 11:11
  of
• 11:12
  what
• 11:12
  was
• 11:12
  a
• 11:12
  very
• 11:13
  important
• 11:13
  relationship.
• 11:14
  But
• 11:14
  when
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  think
• 11:14
  about
• 11:16
  unlimited
• 11:17
  possibilities
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  open
• 11:18
  doors,
• 11:19
  it
• 11:20
  begins
• 11:20
  with
• 11:20
  conversations.
• 11:21
  For
• 11:22
  me,
• 11:23
  that's
• 11:23
  how
• 11:23
  doors
• 11:24
  get
• 11:24
  opened.
• 11:26
  I'm
• 11:26
  also
• 11:26
  thinking
• 11:27
  about
• 11:27
  how
• 11:28
  New
• 11:28
  York
• 11:28
  State
• 11:28
  Education
• 11:29
  Department
• 11:29
  has
• 11:30
  just
• 11:30
  released
• 11:31
  its
• 11:31
  graphic
• 11:32
  for
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  portrait
• 11:34
  of
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  Graduate.
• 11:36
  And
• 11:37
  I'm
• 11:37
  looking
• 11:37
  at
• 11:38
  each
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  domains
• 11:39
  around
• 11:39
  this
• 11:39
  beautiful
• 11:40
  graphic
• 11:41
  because
• 11:42
  it's
• 11:42
  really
• 11:42
  pleasing
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  look
• 11:43
  at.
• 11:44
  One
• 11:44
  of
• 11:44
  them
• 11:44
  says
• 11:45
  innovation,
• 11:47
  and
• 11:47
  that
• 11:48
  we
• 11:48
  want
• 11:48
  our
• 11:48
  graduates
• 11:49
  to
• 11:49
  be
• 11:49
  innovators.
• 11:51
  And
• 11:51
  so
• 11:51
  I'm
• 11:52
  reminded
• 11:52
  of
• 11:53
  open
• 11:54
  doors
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  unlimited
• 11:55
  possibilities.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  know
• 11:57
  that
• 11:57
  in
• 11:57
  order
• 11:57
  for
• 11:57
  our
• 11:58
  students
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  be
• 11:58
  innovators,
• 12:00
  they're
• 12:00
  educators
• 12:02
  have
• 12:02
  to
• 12:02
  be
• 12:03
  allowed
• 12:03
  to
• 12:03
  be
• 12:03
  innovators.
• 12:06
  And
• 12:06
  what
• 12:06
  do
• 12:07
  those
• 12:07
  possibilities
• 12:07
  look
• 12:08
  like?
• 12:11
  So
• 12:13
  that's
• 12:13
  a
• 12:14
  fantastic
• 12:14
  story
• 12:15
  of
• 12:15
  what
• 12:15
  it
• 12:15
  is
• 12:16
  that
• 12:16
  we
• 12:17
  really
• 12:17
  want
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  see
• 12:18
  happen
• 12:19
  for
• 12:19
  every
• 12:20
  student.
• 12:20
  And
• 12:20
  I'll
• 12:21
  bet
• 12:21
  you,
• 12:21
  as
• 12:21
  we're
• 12:21
  listening,
• 12:24
  people
• 12:24
  are
• 12:24
  saying,
• 12:25
  oh,
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  course,
• 12:27
  you
• 12:27
  know,
• 12:27
  everything
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  do,
• 12:29
  everything
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  do,
• 12:30
  right?
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  come
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  classroom,
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  everything
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  do
• 12:31
  is
• 12:32
  about
• 12:32
  open
• 12:32
  doors
• 12:33
  and
• 12:33
  unlimited
• 12:33
  possibilities.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  just
• 12:34
  want
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  caution
• 12:35
  us.
• 12:36
  I
• 12:36
  want
• 12:37
  to
• 12:37
  caution
• 12:37
  us
• 12:37
  about
• 12:38
  that,
• 12:38
  because
• 12:39
  I
• 12:39
  think
• 12:39
  a
• 12:39
  lot
• 12:39
  of
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  ways
• 12:40
  that
• 12:41
  schooling
• 12:41
  is
• 12:42
  organized
• 12:43
  and
• 12:43
  that
• 12:44
  what
• 12:44
  we
• 12:45
  do
• 12:47
  doesn't
• 12:48
  really
• 12:50
  open
• 12:51
  doors
• 12:53
  and
• 12:53
  lead
• 12:54
  toward
• 12:54
  unlimited
• 12:54
  possibilities.
• 12:57
  It
• 12:57
  actually
• 12:57
  shuts
• 12:58
  the
• 12:58
  door,
• 12:59
  right?
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  think
• 13:02
  we
• 13:02
  send
• 13:02
  a
• 13:02
  lot
• 13:02
  of
• 13:04
  messages
• 13:04
  that
• 13:05
  we
• 13:05
  shouldn't
• 13:05
  send.
• 13:06
  You
• 13:06
  know,
• 13:06
  like,
• 13:07
  how
• 13:07
  do
• 13:07
  we.
• 13:08
  How
• 13:08
  do
• 13:08
  we
• 13:09
  grade?
• 13:11
  How
• 13:11
  do
• 13:11
  we
• 13:11
  provide
• 13:12
  feedback
• 13:13
  for
• 13:13
  students?
• 13:14
  How
• 13:15
  do
• 13:15
  we
• 13:15
  challenge
• 13:16
  them?
• 13:16
  Alicia
• 13:17
  has
• 13:17
  this.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:18
  I'm
• 13:18
  hoping
• 13:18
  this
• 13:18
  is
• 13:19
  what
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  know
• 13:19
  you're
• 13:19
  getting
• 13:19
  ready
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  talk.
• 13:21
  Alicia
• 13:21
  has
• 13:21
  this
• 13:22
  really
• 13:22
  powerful
• 13:23
  story
• 13:23
  that
• 13:23
  she's
• 13:24
  told
• 13:24
  previously
• 13:25
  where,
• 13:26
  you
• 13:26
  know,
• 13:27
  her
• 13:27
  writing
• 13:28
  was
• 13:28
  bludgeoned
• 13:30
  by
• 13:31
  a
• 13:31
  teacher,
• 13:32
  right?
• 13:33
  It
• 13:33
  was
• 13:33
  just
• 13:34
  bludgeoned.
• 13:34
  Bloody,
• 13:35
  bloody,
• 13:36
  ugly
• 13:36
  red.
• 13:37
  It
• 13:37
  was
• 13:37
  bludgeoned.
• 13:39
  And,
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  know,
• 13:42
  at
• 13:42
  least
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  don't
• 13:42
  want
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  tell
• 13:42
  your
• 13:43
  story,
• 13:43
  but
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  rem.
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  remember
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  telling
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  story,
• 13:46
  right?
• 13:47
  And
• 13:47
  I'm
• 13:47
  thinking
• 13:47
  to
• 13:48
  myself,
• 13:50
  holy
• 13:50
  cow.
• 13:50
  This
• 13:50
  is
• 13:50
  a
• 13:51
  woman
• 13:51
  who
• 13:51
  became.
• 13:52
  Who
• 13:52
  earned
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  doctorate
• 13:54
  degree
• 13:56
  and
• 13:56
  who
• 13:56
  teaches
• 13:57
  other
• 13:57
  students
• 13:59
  about
• 14:00
  how
• 14:00
  to
• 14:00
  be
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  researcher
• 14:01
  and
• 14:02
  a
• 14:02
  writer
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  a
• 14:02
  publisher,
• 14:03
  and
• 14:03
  she's
• 14:04
  an
• 14:04
  author
• 14:05
  herself.
• 14:06
  And
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  wonder.
• 14:07
  And
• 14:07
  I
• 14:07
  don't
• 14:07
  remember
• 14:08
  exactly
• 14:08
  what
• 14:09
  grade
• 14:09
  she
• 14:09
  was
• 14:09
  in,
• 14:10
  but
• 14:10
  I
• 14:10
  was
• 14:10
  like,
• 14:12
  you
• 14:12
  know,
• 14:12
  like,
• 14:13
  holy
• 14:13
  cow.
• 14:14
  If
• 14:14
  Alicia
• 14:15
  had
• 14:15
  taken
• 14:16
  that
• 14:17
  bludgeoned
• 14:19
  work
• 14:20
  to
• 14:21
  heart
• 14:24
  and
• 14:24
  said,
• 14:24
  oh,
• 14:25
  apparently
• 14:26
  I'm
• 14:27
  not
• 14:27
  smart
• 14:27
  enough
• 14:27
  to
• 14:27
  be
• 14:28
  a
• 14:28
  writer.
• 14:28
  I'm
• 14:28
  not
• 14:28
  talented
• 14:29
  enough
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  do
• 14:34
  what
• 14:34
  would
• 14:35
  have
• 14:35
  happened.
• 14:37
  Right.
• 14:37
  Would
• 14:37
  Alicia
• 14:38
  have,
• 14:38
  have,
• 14:39
  have.
• 14:40
  Would
• 14:40
  she
• 14:41
  have.
• 14:42
  Would
• 14:42
  she
• 14:42
  be
• 14:42
  doing
• 14:42
  Right.
• 14:43
  She's
• 14:43
  not
• 14:43
  done.
• 14:44
  Would
• 14:44
  she
• 14:44
  be
• 14:44
  doing
• 14:45
  what
• 14:45
  she
• 14:45
  is
• 14:45
  today?
• 14:46
  You
• 14:47
  know,
• 14:47
  and
• 14:47
  so
• 14:48
  as
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  were
• 14:48
  talking,
• 14:49
  Michael,
• 14:49
  I
• 14:49
  was
• 14:49
  like,
• 14:50
  oh,
• 14:50
  yes,
• 14:50
  go,
• 14:50
  go,
• 14:51
  go.
• 14:51
  And
• 14:51
  yet
• 14:52
  how
• 14:52
  many
• 14:53
  times
• 14:55
  for
• 14:55
  what
• 14:55
  kind
• 14:55
  of
• 14:56
  student
• 14:59
  do
• 15:00
  we
• 15:00
  slam
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  door
• 15:01
  shut?
• 15:03
  And
• 15:03
  Alicia's
• 15:04
  story
• 15:04
  is
• 15:05
  just
• 15:05
  one.
• 15:06
  I'm
• 15:07
  sure
• 15:07
  it's
• 15:07
  not
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  only
• 15:07
  one
• 15:08
  that
• 15:08
  ever
• 15:08
  happened
• 15:08
  to
• 15:08
  her.
• 15:09
  And
• 15:09
  I'm
• 15:09
  sure
• 15:10
  if
• 15:10
  we.
• 15:10
  If
• 15:11
  we
• 15:11
  were
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  pull
• 15:13
  a
• 15:13
  lot
• 15:13
  of.
• 15:13
  A
• 15:14
  lot
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  adults
• 15:14
  and
• 15:14
  a
• 15:14
  lot
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  students,
• 15:16
  especially
• 15:17
  students
• 15:17
  from
• 15:18
  marginalized
• 15:19
  groups,
• 15:21
  would
• 15:22
  their
• 15:22
  experience
• 15:24
  be
• 15:25
  different?
• 15:25
  And
• 15:26
  of
• 15:26
  course,
• 15:26
  now
• 15:26
  it's
• 15:27
  2025.
• 15:29
  Right.
• 15:29
  So,
• 15:30
  Alicia,
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  just
• 15:31
  told
• 15:31
  your
• 15:31
  story,
• 15:31
  and
• 15:31
  I
• 15:32
  know
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  were
• 15:32
  just.
• 15:32
  You
• 15:32
  were
• 15:32
  listening
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  giving
• 15:33
  me
• 15:33
  the
• 15:33
  thumbs
• 15:34
  up,
• 15:34
  but,
• 15:34
  you
• 15:35
  know,
• 15:35
  what's
• 15:36
  your
• 15:36
  reaction
• 15:36
  to
• 15:37
  that,
• 15:37
  Dr.
• 15:37
  Monroe?
• 15:39
  No,
• 15:39
  it's.
• 15:39
  It's
• 15:40
  wonderful.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:41
  Grant,
• 15:42
  I
• 15:42
  love
• 15:42
  the
• 15:43
  allyship
• 15:43
  that
• 15:43
  I
• 15:44
  get
• 15:44
  in
• 15:44
  this
• 15:44
  space.
• 15:44
  So
• 15:45
  tell
• 15:45
  my
• 15:45
  story,
• 15:46
  because
• 15:47
  you
• 15:47
  have
• 15:47
  access
• 15:47
  to
• 15:48
  spaces
• 15:48
  that
• 15:48
  I
• 15:49
  don't
• 15:49
  have,
• 15:50
  just
• 15:50
  because
• 15:51
  I
• 15:51
  am
• 15:51
  Afro
• 15:52
  Latina.
• 15:53
  Right.
• 15:53
  So
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  do
• 15:54
  appreciate
• 15:55
  you
• 15:55
  amplifying
• 15:56
  my
• 15:56
  voice
• 15:57
  and
• 15:57
  my
• 15:57
  narrative.
• 15:58
  So
• 15:58
  thank
• 15:58
  you
• 15:59
  for
• 15:59
  that.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  that
• 15:59
  was
• 16:00
  accurate.
• 16:00
  So,
• 16:01
  Michael,
• 16:02
  oftentimes
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  have
• 16:03
  to
• 16:03
  live
• 16:03
  vicariously
• 16:04
  through
• 16:04
  your
• 16:04
  story,
• 16:05
  because
• 16:05
  that's
• 16:05
  not
• 16:05
  my
• 16:06
  story.
• 16:06
  Right,
• 16:07
  right.
• 16:07
  That
• 16:07
  doesn't
• 16:08
  represent
• 16:08
  my
• 16:09
  narrative.
• 16:09
  My
• 16:09
  narrative
• 16:10
  is
• 16:11
  not
• 16:11
  the
• 16:12
  cultivating
• 16:12
  hope
• 16:13
  side
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  spectrum.
• 16:14
  It's
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  killing
• 16:15
  dream
• 16:15
  side
• 16:15
  of
• 16:16
  the
• 16:16
  spectrum,
• 16:16
  unfortunately.
• 16:18
  And
• 16:20
  when.
• 16:21
  When.
• 16:21
  When
• 16:21
  I
• 16:22
  am,
• 16:22
  I
• 16:23
  get
• 16:23
  my
• 16:24
  wonderful
• 16:25
  college
• 16:25
  acceptance
• 16:26
  letters
• 16:27
  to
• 16:27
  Ivy
• 16:27
  League
• 16:28
  schools
• 16:28
  and
• 16:28
  very
• 16:29
  competitive
• 16:29
  schools,
• 16:30
  and
• 16:31
  I'm
• 16:31
  sitting
• 16:32
  in
• 16:32
  a
• 16:33
  class
• 16:33
  that
• 16:33
  is
• 16:34
  Advanced
• 16:34
  placement,
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  my
• 16:36
  teacher
• 16:36
  says
• 16:36
  in
• 16:37
  front
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  the.
• 16:39
  That
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  will
• 16:39
  never
• 16:40
  succeed
• 16:40
  in
• 16:41
  the.
• 16:41
  The
• 16:41
  college
• 16:42
  that
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  planned
• 16:43
  on
• 16:43
  attending
• 16:44
  in
• 16:44
  front
• 16:45
  of
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  whole
• 16:45
  classroom
• 16:46
  after
• 16:47
  she
• 16:47
  slaps
• 16:48
  the.
• 16:48
  The
• 16:49
  bloody
• 16:49
  red
• 16:50
  essay
• 16:51
  that
• 16:51
  I
• 16:51
  did
• 16:52
  on
• 16:52
  my
• 16:52
  desk.
• 16:53
  Right.
• 16:53
  What
• 16:54
  impact
• 16:54
  does
• 16:54
  that
• 16:55
  have?
• 16:55
  And
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  was
• 16:56
  a
• 16:56
  senior
• 16:57
  in
• 16:57
  high
• 16:57
  school
• 16:58
  in
• 16:58
  an
• 16:59
  advanced
• 16:59
  placement
• 17:00
  course.
• 17:00
  Right.
• 17:01
  I
• 17:01
  am
• 17:02
  the
• 17:02
  product
• 17:02
  of
• 17:03
  New
• 17:03
  York
• 17:03
  City
• 17:04
  public
• 17:04
  schools,
• 17:05
  so
• 17:05
  that
• 17:05
  is
• 17:05
  exactly
• 17:06
  where
• 17:06
  it
• 17:06
  happened.
• 17:07
  All
• 17:07
  right,
• 17:08
  so
• 17:08
  hopefully
• 17:09
  there
• 17:09
  is
• 17:09
  some
• 17:09
  change
• 17:10
  in
• 17:10
  the
• 17:10
  system.
• 17:11
  But
• 17:11
  I
• 17:11
  also
• 17:12
  want
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  offer
• 17:13
  another
• 17:13
  story.
• 17:14
  During
• 17:14
  my
• 17:14
  11th
• 17:15
  grade
• 17:15
  year
• 17:16
  in
• 17:17
  an
• 17:17
  advanced
• 17:18
  English
• 17:18
  class
• 17:19
  where
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  kept
• 17:21
  submitting
• 17:21
  papers
• 17:22
  that
• 17:22
  I
• 17:22
  knew
• 17:22
  that
• 17:23
  I
• 17:23
  worked
• 17:23
  hard
• 17:23
  on,
• 17:25
  and
• 17:25
  I
• 17:26
  continued
• 17:26
  to
• 17:26
  get
• 17:27
  low
• 17:27
  grades,
• 17:28
  C's
• 17:28
  and
• 17:28
  D's,
• 17:29
  and
• 17:30
  when
• 17:30
  I
• 17:30
  went
• 17:30
  to
• 17:31
  ask
• 17:31
  for
• 17:31
  help,
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  teacher
• 17:33
  alluded
• 17:33
  to
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  was
• 17:34
  working
• 17:35
  to
• 17:35
  my
• 17:35
  potential.
• 17:38
  So
• 17:38
  When
• 17:38
  I
• 17:38
  went
• 17:39
  to
• 17:39
  my
• 17:39
  mom,
• 17:40
  who
• 17:40
  had
• 17:41
  her
• 17:41
  master's
• 17:42
  in
• 17:42
  English,
• 17:43
  who
• 17:44
  is
• 17:44
  an
• 17:45
  educator
• 17:46
  herself,
• 17:47
  and
• 17:47
  I
• 17:47
  said,
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  feel
• 17:49
  that
• 17:49
  this
• 17:49
  teacher
• 17:50
  has
• 17:50
  something
• 17:50
  against
• 17:51
  me.
• 17:51
  And
• 17:51
  you
• 17:52
  know,
• 17:52
  as
• 17:52
  a
• 17:52
  teacher
• 17:53
  herself,
• 17:54
  she
• 17:54
  came
• 17:55
  into
• 17:55
  coalition
• 17:55
  with
• 17:56
  teachers.
• 17:56
  Alicia,
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  think
• 17:57
  you
• 17:57
  just
• 17:58
  need
• 17:58
  to
• 17:58
  try
• 17:58
  harder.
• 17:59
  Well,
• 17:59
  after
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  third
• 18:00
  try,
• 18:02
  and
• 18:02
  she
• 18:02
  started
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  see
• 18:04
  the
• 18:04
  collapse
• 18:05
  of
• 18:05
  my
• 18:05
  grade
• 18:06
  and
• 18:06
  I've
• 18:06
  never
• 18:07
  experienced
• 18:08
  before,
• 18:09
  she
• 18:09
  said,
• 18:10
  allow
• 18:10
  me
• 18:11
  to
• 18:11
  do
• 18:12
  your
• 18:12
  next
• 18:12
  assignment
• 18:13
  for
• 18:13
  you.
• 18:15
  Ooh,
• 18:16
  here
• 18:16
  we
• 18:16
  go.
• 18:21
  My
• 18:21
  mother
• 18:21
  never
• 18:22
  did
• 18:22
  my
• 18:22
  homework,
• 18:23
  nor
• 18:23
  did
• 18:23
  my,
• 18:24
  my
• 18:24
  dad.
• 18:24
  Okay.
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  came
• 18:26
  from
• 18:26
  a
• 18:27
  household
• 18:27
  is
• 18:28
  we
• 18:28
  do
• 18:29
  it.
• 18:29
  Yeah,
• 18:30
  you
• 18:30
  ask
• 18:30
  for
• 18:30
  help,
• 18:31
  okay?
• 18:32
  But
• 18:33
  she
• 18:33
  wanted,
• 18:34
  she
• 18:34
  wanted
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  prove
• 18:35
  my
• 18:35
  argument.
• 18:37
  So
• 18:39
  she,
• 18:39
  she,
• 18:39
  she,
• 18:40
  she
• 18:40
  and
• 18:41
  I
• 18:41
  did
• 18:41
  it
• 18:41
  together.
• 18:42
  She
• 18:42
  corrected
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  narratives
• 18:44
  down
• 18:44
  to
• 18:45
  every
• 18:45
  grammatical
• 18:48
  piece,
• 18:49
  every
• 18:49
  convention,
• 18:50
  right?
• 18:51
  I
• 18:52
  submitted
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  paper,
• 18:54
  it
• 18:54
  came
• 18:55
  back
• 18:55
  with
• 18:55
  a
• 18:55
  D.
• 18:59
  At
• 18:59
  that
• 19:00
  time,
• 19:01
  my
• 19:01
  mother
• 19:01
  and
• 19:02
  father
• 19:02
  and
• 19:03
  for
• 19:03
  my
• 19:03
  father
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  take
• 19:04
  off
• 19:04
  work
• 19:05
  is
• 19:05
  a
• 19:05
  lot
• 19:06
  because
• 19:06
  I
• 19:07
  came
• 19:07
  from
• 19:07
  an
• 19:07
  old
• 19:08
  school
• 19:08
  household
• 19:09
  where
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  head
• 19:10
  of
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  household
• 19:11
  is
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  breadwinner,
• 19:13
  made
• 19:13
  an
• 19:13
  appointment
• 19:14
  with
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  principal
• 19:14
  of
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  high
• 19:15
  school
• 19:18
  and
• 19:18
  she
• 19:18
  showed.
• 19:20
  And
• 19:21
  first
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  all,
• 19:21
  she
• 19:21
  apologized
• 19:23
  me
• 19:23
  to
• 19:23
  me.
• 19:24
  She
• 19:24
  said,
• 19:24
  alicia,
• 19:25
  I
• 19:25
  never
• 19:25
  would
• 19:25
  think
• 19:26
  that
• 19:26
  this
• 19:26
  is
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  case,
• 19:27
  but
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  think
• 19:27
  that
• 19:27
  this
• 19:27
  is
• 19:28
  the
• 19:28
  case
• 19:28
  here,
• 19:30
  okay?
• 19:32
  There
• 19:32
  was
• 19:32
  something
• 19:33
  clouding,
• 19:34
  that's
• 19:34
  all
• 19:34
  she
• 19:34
  said,
• 19:35
  this
• 19:35
  teacher's
• 19:35
  eye.
• 19:38
  Something,
• 19:39
  right?
• 19:40
  That's
• 19:40
  it.
• 19:41
  Because
• 19:41
  she
• 19:42
  didn't
• 19:42
  want
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  cloud
• 19:43
  my
• 19:44
  faith
• 19:44
  and
• 19:45
  my
• 19:45
  hope
• 19:46
  right?
• 19:46
  In
• 19:47
  the
• 19:47
  future,
• 19:47
  in
• 19:47
  my
• 19:48
  own
• 19:48
  future.
• 19:48
  So
• 19:49
  she
• 19:49
  said,
• 19:49
  I
• 19:49
  think
• 19:49
  there
• 19:50
  is
• 19:50
  something.
• 19:51
  She
• 19:51
  didn't
• 19:51
  qualify
• 19:52
  to
• 19:52
  something.
• 19:53
  And
• 19:53
  she
• 19:53
  went
• 19:54
  up
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  the
• 19:54
  school
• 19:55
  and
• 19:55
  I
• 19:56
  remember
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  principal,
• 19:57
  and
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  principal
• 19:57
  said,
• 19:58
  well,
• 19:59
  let
• 19:59
  me
• 19:59
  see,
• 19:59
  and
• 20:00
  called
• 20:02
  the
• 20:03
  teacher
• 20:03
  down.
• 20:04
  And
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  remember
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  teacher
• 20:05
  had
• 20:05
  a
• 20:05
  class
• 20:06
  and
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  principal
• 20:07
  said,
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  don't
• 20:07
  care,
• 20:09
  I'll
• 20:09
  send
• 20:09
  coverage.
• 20:10
  You
• 20:10
  come
• 20:11
  down
• 20:11
  now.
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  am
• 20:13
  meeting
• 20:13
  with
• 20:13
  such
• 20:13
  and
• 20:14
  such.
• 20:15
  So
• 20:16
  when
• 20:16
  the
• 20:16
  teacher
• 20:17
  came
• 20:17
  in,
• 20:18
  he
• 20:18
  says,
• 20:18
  well,
• 20:18
  then
• 20:18
  you
• 20:19
  need
• 20:19
  to
• 20:19
  excuse
• 20:19
  the
• 20:20
  student.
• 20:21
  And
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  principal
• 20:22
  said,
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  will
• 20:22
  not
• 20:23
  excuse
• 20:23
  the
• 20:24
  student.
• 20:24
  Wow.
• 20:26
  And
• 20:27
  there
• 20:27
  was
• 20:27
  justice
• 20:28
  that
• 20:28
  day,
• 20:31
  right?
• 20:32
  So
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  head.
• 20:33
  We
• 20:34
  have
• 20:34
  power
• 20:35
  as
• 20:35
  educators.
• 20:39
  We
• 20:40
  have
• 20:40
  power
• 20:41
  as
• 20:41
  educators.
• 20:44
  Are
• 20:44
  we
• 20:45
  co
• 20:45
  creating
• 20:46
  or
• 20:47
  are
• 20:47
  we
• 20:47
  controlling?
• 20:50
  Controlling
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  point
• 20:51
  where
• 20:51
  we
• 20:52
  are
• 20:52
  can
• 20:53
  sometimes
• 20:53
  fill
• 20:54
  that
• 20:54
  cup.
• 20:54
  Michael,
• 20:55
  your
• 20:55
  experience
• 20:58
  or
• 20:58
  kill
• 20:58
  dreams,
• 20:59
  as
• 20:59
  in
• 21:00
  my
• 21:00
  experience.
• 21:01
  Thank
• 21:02
  God
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  had
• 21:03
  strong
• 21:03
  parents
• 21:05
  who
• 21:05
  believed
• 21:06
  in
• 21:06
  me.
• 21:08
  But
• 21:09
  justice
• 21:09
  was
• 21:10
  served
• 21:10
  that
• 21:10
  day.
• 21:11
  So
• 21:11
  grant
• 21:12
  back
• 21:12
  to
• 21:13
  what
• 21:13
  you
• 21:13
  were
• 21:13
  sharing
• 21:14
  about
• 21:14
  experiences,
• 21:16
  right?
• 21:17
  Because
• 21:17
  we
• 21:18
  know,
• 21:18
  we
• 21:19
  know
• 21:19
  that
• 21:19
  educators
• 21:20
  have
• 21:20
  tremendous
• 21:21
  power.
• 21:22
  And
• 21:22
  we
• 21:22
  also
• 21:23
  know
• 21:23
  that
• 21:23
  that
• 21:23
  power
• 21:24
  can
• 21:24
  be
• 21:25
  used
• 21:25
  for
• 21:26
  good.
• 21:27
  And
• 21:27
  we
• 21:27
  know
• 21:28
  that
• 21:28
  that
• 21:28
  power
• 21:29
  can
• 21:29
  be
• 21:29
  used
• 21:29
  to
• 21:30
  harm.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:32
  we
• 21:32
  have
• 21:32
  to
• 21:32
  be.
• 21:33
  This
• 21:34
  podcast
• 21:35
  this
• 21:35
  season
• 21:36
  is
• 21:36
  about
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  choices
• 21:37
  that
• 21:38
  we
• 21:38
  make
• 21:40
  to
• 21:40
  do
• 21:40
  good
• 21:42
  to
• 21:42
  create
• 21:43
  open
• 21:43
  doors
• 21:44
  and
• 21:44
  unlimited
• 21:45
  possibilities
• 21:46
  for
• 21:46
  each
• 21:47
  student.
• 21:48
  And
• 21:48
  hey,
• 21:49
  we
• 21:49
  are
• 21:49
  not
• 21:50
  saying.
• 21:50
  We
• 21:51
  are
• 21:51
  absolutely
• 21:52
  not
• 21:52
  saying
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  you
• 21:52
  don't
• 21:53
  give
• 21:53
  kids
• 21:53
  honest
• 21:53
  feedback.
• 21:56
  You
• 21:56
  know,
• 21:57
  if
• 21:57
  you
• 21:57
  get.
• 21:58
  If
• 21:58
  you
• 21:58
  get
• 21:58
  something
• 21:58
  that
• 21:59
  isn't
• 21:59
  good,
• 21:59
  you
• 22:00
  know,
• 22:00
  we're
• 22:00
  not
• 22:00
  telling
• 22:00
  you
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  tell
• 22:01
  the
• 22:01
  kid
• 22:01
  it's
• 22:01
  good.
• 22:02
  We're
• 22:02
  telling
• 22:03
  you
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  give
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  student
• 22:05
  feedback
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  direction
• 22:08
  for
• 22:08
  how
• 22:08
  it
• 22:08
  can
• 22:09
  get
• 22:10
  better.
• 22:11
  And
• 22:11
  we're
• 22:12
  also
• 22:12
  saying,
• 22:14
  at
• 22:14
  least
• 22:14
  I'm
• 22:15
  saying,
• 22:15
  and
• 22:16
  I'm
• 22:16
  sure
• 22:16
  that
• 22:16
  you
• 22:16
  will
• 22:16
  chime
• 22:17
  in
• 22:17
  and
• 22:18
  agree,
• 22:18
  we're
• 22:19
  also
• 22:19
  saying
• 22:19
  we
• 22:20
  don't
• 22:21
  know
• 22:22
  a
• 22:22
  student's
• 22:23
  potential.
• 22:24
  So
• 22:24
  when
• 22:24
  we
• 22:25
  say
• 22:26
  you're
• 22:26
  working
• 22:26
  up
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  your
• 22:27
  potential,
• 22:29
  we
• 22:29
  don't
• 22:29
  know
• 22:29
  what
• 22:29
  we're
• 22:30
  talking
• 22:30
  about.
• 22:31
  We
• 22:32
  have
• 22:32
  no
• 22:32
  idea
• 22:32
  what
• 22:32
  we're
• 22:33
  talking
• 22:33
  about.
• 22:33
  So
• 22:33
  we
• 22:34
  got
• 22:34
  to
• 22:34
  quit
• 22:34
  talking
• 22:35
  like
• 22:35
  that.
• 22:37
  And
• 22:37
  we
• 22:37
  just
• 22:37
  got
• 22:37
  to
• 22:37
  nurture
• 22:38
  kids
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  go
• 22:40
  forth,
• 22:41
  right?
• 22:42
  And
• 22:43
  go
• 22:43
  and
• 22:43
  work
• 22:44
  and
• 22:44
  succeed
• 22:46
  as
• 22:46
  much
• 22:46
  as
• 22:46
  they
• 22:47
  can.
• 22:47
  Because
• 22:47
  I
• 22:48
  will
• 22:48
  tell
• 22:48
  you,
• 22:49
  there
• 22:49
  are
• 22:49
  thousands
• 22:50
  and
• 22:50
  millions
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  stories
• 22:51
  of
• 22:52
  students
• 22:52
  who
• 22:53
  have
• 22:53
  surpassed
• 22:55
  what
• 22:56
  some
• 22:56
  educator
• 22:56
  thought
• 22:57
  was
• 22:57
  their
• 22:57
  potential.
• 23:00
  And
• 23:01
  it
• 23:01
  circles
• 23:01
  back
• 23:01
  to
• 23:02
  that.
• 23:03
  That
• 23:03
  fundamental
• 23:03
  tenet
• 23:04
  and
• 23:04
  practice
• 23:05
  in
• 23:05
  powerful
• 23:06
  student
• 23:06
  care
• 23:06
  of
• 23:07
  surfacing
• 23:07
  those
• 23:07
  mental
• 23:08
  models
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  one
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  things
• 23:10
  the
• 23:10
  brain
• 23:10
  loves
• 23:11
  to
• 23:11
  do,
• 23:11
  is
• 23:12
  cognitive
• 23:12
  shorthand.
• 23:14
  And
• 23:15
  so
• 23:15
  we
• 23:16
  adopt
• 23:16
  all
• 23:17
  different
• 23:17
  kinds
• 23:17
  of
• 23:18
  cognitive
• 23:18
  shorthand.
• 23:19
  And
• 23:19
  those
• 23:20
  kinds
• 23:21
  that
• 23:21
  are
• 23:21
  based
• 23:21
  on
• 23:22
  inherent
• 23:23
  bias
• 23:23
  do
• 23:24
  tremendous,
• 23:25
  tremendous
• 23:26
  harm.
• 23:27
  And
• 23:27
  if
• 23:27
  we're
• 23:27
  not
• 23:28
  brave
• 23:28
  enough
• 23:29
  to
• 23:29
  surface
• 23:30
  our
• 23:30
  own
• 23:30
  mental
• 23:31
  models,
• 23:31
  the
• 23:32
  ideas
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  attitudes
• 23:36
  that
• 23:36
  support
• 23:37
  our
• 23:38
  decision
• 23:38
  making,
• 23:39
  especially
• 23:39
  the
• 23:40
  on
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  fly,
• 23:41
  automated
• 23:41
  decision
• 23:42
  making,
• 23:43
  and
• 23:46
  we've
• 23:46
  not
• 23:46
  earned
• 23:46
  the
• 23:47
  right
• 23:47
  to
• 23:47
  occupy
• 23:48
  an
• 23:48
  instructional
• 23:49
  space.
• 23:49
  We
• 23:49
  just
• 23:49
  haven't.
• 23:50
  We
• 23:50
  forfeited
• 23:51
  it.
• 23:52
  And
• 23:52
  that
• 23:53
  story
• 23:53
  is
• 23:53
  just.
• 23:54
  It
• 23:54
  is
• 23:55
  such
• 23:55
  a
• 23:55
  stunning
• 23:56
  illustration
• 23:57
  of
• 23:57
  that.
• 23:58
  And,
• 23:59
  you
• 23:59
  know,
• 24:00
  for
• 24:00
  those
• 24:00
  of
• 24:00
  us
• 24:01
  who
• 24:01
  hear
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  conversation
• 24:02
  and
• 24:02
  want
• 24:02
  to
• 24:02
  believe
• 24:02
  that
• 24:03
  somehow
• 24:03
  we've
• 24:03
  arrived
• 24:03
  at
• 24:04
  a
• 24:04
  better
• 24:04
  place
• 24:04
  in
• 24:04
  2025,
• 24:06
  I
• 24:07
  don't
• 24:07
  think
• 24:07
  we
• 24:07
  can
• 24:07
  say
• 24:07
  that
• 24:08
  anymore.
• 24:10
  So
• 24:10
  needless
• 24:10
  to
• 24:11
  say,
• 24:11
  just
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  close
• 24:12
  out
• 24:12
  the
• 24:13
  story,
• 24:14
  what
• 24:14
  the
• 24:14
  principal
• 24:15
  did
• 24:15
  was
• 24:16
  he
• 24:16
  collected
• 24:16
  all
• 24:17
  of
• 24:17
  my
• 24:17
  work,
• 24:18
  asked
• 24:19
  me
• 24:19
  to
• 24:19
  submit
• 24:20
  clean
• 24:20
  copies,
• 24:20
  and
• 24:21
  he
• 24:21
  gave
• 24:21
  it
• 24:21
  to
• 24:21
  another
• 24:22
  teacher
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  grade.
• 24:26
  I'm
• 24:27
  liking
• 24:27
  this
• 24:27
  principal
• 24:28
  an
• 24:28
  awful
• 24:28
  lot.
• 24:28
  Okay.
• 24:30
  He
• 24:31
  was.
• 24:31
  He
• 24:31
  was.
• 24:32
  He
• 24:33
  was
• 24:33
  acclaimed
• 24:33
  in
• 24:34
  his
• 24:34
  field,
• 24:34
  right?
• 24:35
  So
• 24:36
  he.
• 24:36
  He
• 24:37
  set
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  tone
• 24:37
  for
• 24:38
  leadership
• 24:38
  at
• 24:38
  that
• 24:39
  time
• 24:39
  because
• 24:39
  he
• 24:39
  was
• 24:39
  ahead
• 24:40
  of
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  time,
• 24:40
  right.
• 24:42
  And
• 24:42
  he
• 24:42
  was
• 24:42
  awarded
• 24:43
  and
• 24:43
  recognized
• 24:44
  for
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  great
• 24:45
  work
• 24:45
  that
• 24:45
  he
• 24:45
  did
• 24:47
  because
• 24:47
  I
• 24:47
  attended
• 24:48
  one
• 24:48
  of
• 24:48
  the
• 24:49
  first
• 24:49
  magnets,
• 24:50
  Magna
• 24:50
  Blues
• 24:50
  and
• 24:51
  Queens,
• 24:51
  Right.
• 24:52
  So
• 24:53
  I
• 24:54
  just.
• 24:54
  Needless
• 24:55
  to
• 24:55
  say
• 24:56
  that
• 24:57
  of
• 24:57
  course,
• 24:58
  extracting
• 24:59
  the
• 24:59
  paper
• 24:59
  that
• 24:59
  my
• 25:00
  mom
• 25:00
  wrote,
• 25:01
  right,
• 25:02
  because
• 25:03
  I
• 25:03
  actually
• 25:03
  then
• 25:04
  turned
• 25:04
  around
• 25:04
  and
• 25:04
  did
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  assignment
• 25:05
  myself,
• 25:07
  I
• 25:07
  came
• 25:08
  out
• 25:08
  with
• 25:08
  an
• 25:08
  A
• 25:09
  minus
• 25:09
  in
• 25:09
  that
• 25:10
  class.
• 25:11
  So
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  went
• 25:11
  from
• 25:12
  C
• 25:13
  minus,
• 25:13
  D
• 25:15
  to,
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  A
• 25:15
  minus.
• 25:17
  And
• 25:17
  at
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  end
• 25:17
  of
• 25:18
  that,
• 25:18
  that
• 25:18
  year,
• 25:19
  that
• 25:20
  particular
• 25:20
  teacher's
• 25:21
  contract
• 25:21
  was
• 25:22
  not
• 25:22
  renewed
• 25:23
  wild
• 25:24
  because
• 25:25
  of,
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  the,
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  pebble
• 25:26
  in
• 25:27
  the
• 25:27
  eye.
• 25:27
  That
• 25:28
  something,
• 25:29
  that
• 25:30
  mental
• 25:31
  model,
• 25:32
  I
• 25:32
  call
• 25:32
  it
• 25:33
  something
• 25:33
  different,
• 25:34
  and
• 25:34
  that's
• 25:34
  what
• 25:35
  we
• 25:35
  called
• 25:35
  it
• 25:35
  in
• 25:35
  my
• 25:36
  household.
• 25:36
  But
• 25:37
  that,
• 25:37
  that
• 25:38
  reality
• 25:38
  check
• 25:39
  set
• 25:39
  in
• 25:40
  that
• 25:41
  that
• 25:41
  individual
• 25:42
  did
• 25:42
  not
• 25:42
  belong
• 25:43
  in
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  classroom.
• 25:44
  And
• 25:45
  soon
• 25:45
  afterwards,
• 25:46
  that
• 25:47
  other
• 25:47
  teacher
• 25:48
  that
• 25:48
  bloodied
• 25:49
  my
• 25:50
  paper
• 25:50
  grant
• 25:51
  had
• 25:51
  retired
• 25:52
  from
• 25:52
  the
• 25:52
  system.
• 25:54
  So
• 25:54
  there
• 25:54
  is
• 25:54
  some
• 25:55
  sort
• 25:55
  of
• 25:55
  extraction
• 25:56
  that
• 25:57
  takes
• 25:57
  place.
• 25:59
  But
• 25:59
  administrators
• 26:01
  have
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  power
• 26:01
  to
• 26:01
  make
• 26:02
  those
• 26:02
  decisions.
• 26:05
  What
• 26:06
  I
• 26:06
  want
• 26:06
  us
• 26:06
  all
• 26:06
  to
• 26:06
  think
• 26:07
  about
• 26:08
  is
• 26:09
  how
• 26:09
  do
• 26:10
  we.
• 26:11
  How
• 26:11
  do
• 26:11
  we
• 26:12
  surface
• 26:13
  our
• 26:13
  own
• 26:14
  mental
• 26:14
  models
• 26:16
  so
• 26:16
  that
• 26:16
  we
• 26:18
  say
• 26:19
  things
• 26:20
  differently,
• 26:21
  right?
• 26:22
  So
• 26:22
  that
• 26:22
  we
• 26:23
  interact
• 26:24
  in
• 26:24
  ways
• 26:25
  with
• 26:25
  students
• 26:26
  that
• 26:26
  don't
• 26:27
  close
• 26:28
  doors
• 26:30
  or
• 26:30
  limit
• 26:32
  possibilities.
• 26:34
  You
• 26:34
  know,
• 26:34
  I
• 26:34
  was
• 26:35
  in
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  classroom
• 26:35
  for
• 26:36
  15
• 26:36
  years,
• 26:38
  and
• 26:39
  I,
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  can't.
• 26:41
  I'm.
• 26:41
  I'm.
• 26:42
  I'm
• 26:42
  trying
• 26:43
  to.
• 26:43
  You
• 26:43
  know,
• 26:43
  obviously
• 26:44
  that
• 26:44
  was
• 26:44
  a
• 26:44
  few
• 26:44
  years
• 26:45
  ago.
• 26:45
  And,
• 26:45
  you
• 26:46
  know,
• 26:46
  15
• 26:46
  years
• 26:46
  is
• 26:47
  a
• 26:47
  lot
• 26:47
  of
• 26:47
  students
• 26:47
  when
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  have
• 26:48
  like
• 26:48
  150
• 26:49
  or
• 26:49
  170
• 26:50
  a
• 26:50
  year.
• 26:50
  But
• 26:50
  I
• 26:51
  was
• 26:51
  like,
• 26:51
  you
• 26:52
  know,
• 26:53
  I,
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  can't
• 26:54
  identify
• 26:55
  because
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  never
• 26:56
  thought
• 26:56
  that
• 26:56
  way.
• 26:57
  I
• 26:57
  can't
• 26:57
  identify
• 26:59
  a
• 27:00
  particular
• 27:01
  potential
• 27:04
  that
• 27:04
  I've
• 27:04
  ever
• 27:04
  thought
• 27:05
  about
• 27:06
  with
• 27:07
  a
• 27:07
  student.
• 27:08
  Right.
• 27:08
  In
• 27:08
  fact,
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  preferred
• 27:10
  being
• 27:11
  a
• 27:11
  potential
• 27:11
  breaker.
• 27:12
  Right.
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  wanted
• 27:14
  to
• 27:14
  help
• 27:14
  them
• 27:14
  break
• 27:15
  through
• 27:15
  those
• 27:16
  preconceived
• 27:17
  notions
• 27:17
  of
• 27:18
  what
• 27:20
  having
• 27:20
  a
• 27:21
  potential
• 27:23
  was
• 27:23
  all
• 27:23
  about.
• 27:25
  And
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  think
• 27:26
  that's
• 27:26
  the
• 27:26
  important
• 27:27
  lesson,
• 27:27
  I
• 27:28
  think,
• 27:28
  for
• 27:28
  us
• 27:30
  today
• 27:31
  is
• 27:31
  that
• 27:32
  what
• 27:32
  we
• 27:33
  say
• 27:33
  and
• 27:33
  how
• 27:34
  we
• 27:34
  say
• 27:35
  it
• 27:35
  and
• 27:35
  what
• 27:35
  our
• 27:36
  intentions
• 27:37
  are.
• 27:39
  You
• 27:40
  know,
• 27:40
  this
• 27:40
  is
• 27:40
  the.
• 27:40
  This
• 27:41
  is
• 27:41
  the
• 27:41
  episode
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  two
• 27:42
  stories.
• 27:43
  There's
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  story
• 27:44
  of.
• 27:45
  There's
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  story
• 27:45
  of
• 27:46
  Michael,
• 27:47
  that
• 27:47
  10th
• 27:47
  grader,
• 27:48
  right?
• 27:49
  And
• 27:49
  the
• 27:50
  right
• 27:50
  way
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  do
• 27:52
  that
• 27:52
  work
• 27:52
  and
• 27:52
  to
• 27:53
  support
• 27:54
  that
• 27:54
  journey
• 27:54
  from
• 27:55
  agency
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  self
• 27:57
  efficacy
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  self
• 27:58
  authorship.
• 27:59
  And
• 27:59
  then
• 27:59
  there's
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  wrong
• 28:01
  way
• 28:02
  in
• 28:02
  the
• 28:03
  story
• 28:03
  of
• 28:03
  Alicia's
• 28:05
  experience
• 28:06
  where,
• 28:08
  you
• 28:09
  know,
• 28:09
  maybe
• 28:10
  unintentionally,
• 28:11
  but
• 28:11
  maybe
• 28:12
  there
• 28:12
  were
• 28:12
  some
• 28:13
  innate
• 28:13
  biases
• 28:14
  that
• 28:14
  maybe
• 28:15
  they
• 28:15
  were
• 28:15
  implicit,
• 28:16
  maybe
• 28:16
  they
• 28:16
  were
• 28:16
  explicit.
• 28:17
  I
• 28:17
  mean,
• 28:17
  we
• 28:17
  don't
• 28:18
  have
• 28:18
  that
• 28:18
  person
• 28:18
  to
• 28:18
  talk
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  right
• 28:19
  now.
• 28:20
  We
• 28:20
  don't
• 28:20
  know.
• 28:21
  And
• 28:21
  at
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  end
• 28:21
  of
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  day,
• 28:22
  it
• 28:22
  doesn't
• 28:22
  matter
• 28:23
  because
• 28:23
  those
• 28:24
  biases,
• 28:26
  whether
• 28:27
  they
• 28:27
  were
• 28:27
  implicit
• 28:27
  or
• 28:27
  explicit,
• 28:28
  were
• 28:28
  intended
• 28:30
  to
• 28:30
  limit
• 28:31
  someone's
• 28:31
  potential.
• 28:32
  They
• 28:32
  were
• 28:33
  to
• 28:33
  harm.
• 28:34
  Yeah,
• 28:34
  they
• 28:34
  were
• 28:35
  intended
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  harm.
• 28:36
  They
• 28:36
  were
• 28:36
  intended
• 28:36
  to
• 28:37
  shut
• 28:37
  down.
• 28:38
  They
• 28:38
  were
• 28:38
  intended
• 28:39
  to
• 28:39
  teach
• 28:39
  her
• 28:40
  her
• 28:41
  place.
• 28:43
  Guess
• 28:44
  what?
• 28:45
  Least
• 28:45
  you
• 28:45
  didn't
• 28:46
  need
• 28:46
  your
• 28:46
  help.
• 28:46
  She
• 28:47
  found
• 28:47
  her
• 28:47
  place,
• 28:49
  right?
• 28:51
  And
• 28:51
  our
• 28:51
  students,
• 28:53
  whoever
• 28:53
  they
• 28:54
  are,
• 28:55
  they'll
• 28:55
  Find
• 28:56
  their
• 28:56
  place.
• 28:57
  That's
• 28:58
  not
• 28:58
  our
• 28:58
  job.
• 29:00
  Our
• 29:00
  job
• 29:00
  is
• 29:00
  to
• 29:00
  empower
• 29:01
  them
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  do
• 29:02
  so.
• 29:05
  So
• 29:05
  when
• 29:05
  we
• 29:06
  think
• 29:06
  about
• 29:06
  this
• 29:06
  episode
• 29:08
  of
• 29:09
  Open
• 29:09
  doors
• 29:10
  and
• 29:10
  unlimited
• 29:11
  possibilities
• 29:14
  Frame
• 29:15
  It
• 29:15
  All,
• 29:15
  Mel
• 29:16
  King
• 29:16
  is
• 29:16
  coming
• 29:16
  to
• 29:17
  mind
• 29:17
  again
• 29:17
  today.
• 29:18
  Right?
• 29:18
  Mel
• 29:19
  King
• 29:19
  is
• 29:19
  coming
• 29:19
  to
• 29:19
  mind
• 29:20
  today
• 29:20
  because
• 29:20
  of
• 29:20
  that
• 29:21
  brilliant
• 29:22
  statement
• 29:23
  which
• 29:23
  he
• 29:23
  said
• 29:24
  not
• 29:24
  because
• 29:24
  he
• 29:24
  wanted
• 29:25
  to
• 29:25
  be
• 29:25
  brilliant,
• 29:25
  but
• 29:26
  it
• 29:26
  was
• 29:26
  just
• 29:27
  exactly
• 29:28
  what
• 29:28
  he
• 29:28
  was
• 29:28
  experiencing.
• 29:30
  So
• 29:30
  it
• 29:30
  was
• 29:30
  unintended
• 29:31
  brilliance.
• 29:32
  But
• 29:32
  it's
• 29:32
  brilliance
• 29:33
  that
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  can't
• 29:33
  let
• 29:34
  go
• 29:34
  of.
• 29:35
  And
• 29:35
  that
• 29:35
  is,
• 29:36
  you
• 29:37
  know,
• 29:37
  are
• 29:37
  we
• 29:37
  creating
• 29:38
  spaces
• 29:39
  where
• 29:40
  our
• 29:40
  children,
• 29:41
  each
• 29:42
  student,
• 29:43
  can
• 29:43
  breathe
• 29:44
  and
• 29:44
  are
• 29:45
  we
• 29:45
  creating
• 29:45
  spaces
• 29:47
  where
• 29:47
  we're
• 29:47
  nurturing
• 29:49
  open
• 29:49
  doors,
• 29:50
  unlimited
• 29:51
  possibilities
• 29:53
  for
• 29:53
  each
• 29:53
  and
• 29:54
  every
• 29:54
  one,
• 29:56
  or
• 29:58
  are
• 29:58
  we
• 29:58
  doing
• 29:59
  either
• 29:59
  on
• 30:00
  purpose
• 30:01
  or
• 30:03
  because
• 30:03
  we're
• 30:03
  unaware,
• 30:05
  are
• 30:05
  we
• 30:05
  doing
• 30:06
  things
• 30:06
  that
• 30:06
  are
• 30:07
  limiting,
• 30:08
  you
• 30:08
  know,
• 30:08
  limiting
• 30:09
  potential
• 30:09
  and
• 30:10
  closing
• 30:10
  doors?
• 30:11
  At
• 30:11
  the
• 30:11
  end
• 30:11
  of
• 30:11
  the
• 30:12
  day,
• 30:13
  the
• 30:13
  choice
• 30:14
  is
• 30:14
  ours.
• 30:15
  We're
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  educator
• 30:16
  in
• 30:16
  the
• 30:16
  space.
• 30:18
  That's
• 30:19
  our
• 30:19
  responsibility
• 30:20
  and
• 30:20
  it's
• 30:20
  also
• 30:20
  our
• 30:21
  choice.
• 30:22
  And
• 30:23
  there's
• 30:23
  not.
• 30:24
  You
• 30:24
  don't
• 30:24
  fall
• 30:24
  somewhere
• 30:25
  in
• 30:25
  the
• 30:25
  middle.
• 30:26
  You'll
• 30:26
  either
• 30:27
  stand
• 30:28
  there
• 30:28
  at
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  door
• 30:30
  making
• 30:30
  sure
• 30:30
  the
• 30:31
  door
• 30:31
  is
• 30:31
  open.
• 30:34
  Or.
• 30:34
  You
• 30:34
  walk
• 30:34
  away
• 30:35
  from
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  door
• 30:35
  and
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  door
• 30:35
  slams
• 30:36
  shut.
• 30:37
  It's
• 30:37
  really
• 30:37
  it,
• 30:38
  right?
• 30:38
  You
• 30:38
  only
• 30:38
  have
• 30:39
  two
• 30:39
  choices.
• 30:41
  There
• 30:41
  are
• 30:41
  only
• 30:41
  two.
• 30:42
  There
• 30:43
  are
• 30:43
  either
• 30:44
  limited
• 30:46
  possibilities.
• 30:47
  Potential
• 30:49
  or
• 30:50
  there's
• 30:50
  unlimited
• 30:52
  possibilities,
• 30:54
  which
• 30:54
  is
• 30:55
  far
• 30:55
  more
• 30:56
  beautiful
• 30:57
  in
• 30:57
  reality.
• 31:07
  Well,
• 31:08
  I
• 31:08
  get
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  welcome
• 31:09
  Kathy
• 31:10
  Mone
• 31:10
  to
• 31:10
  the
• 31:10
  wheelhouse
• 31:11
  here
• 31:11
  in
• 31:12
  episode
• 31:12
  two
• 31:13
  in
• 31:13
  a
• 31:13
  separate
• 31:14
  and
• 31:14
  individual
• 31:15
  private
• 31:16
  recording
• 31:17
  session.
• 31:17
  Welcome,
• 31:18
  Kathy
• 31:18
  Moni.
• 31:19
  Hello,
• 31:19
  Grant
• 31:20
  Chandler.
• 31:20
  It's
• 31:21
  such
• 31:21
  a
• 31:21
  privilege
• 31:22
  to
• 31:22
  be
• 31:22
  here
• 31:23
  in
• 31:23
  this
• 31:23
  private
• 31:24
  conversation
• 31:25
  with
• 31:25
  you.
• 31:26
  I
• 31:27
  absolutely
• 31:28
  missed
• 31:28
  our
• 31:29
  time
• 31:29
  together
• 31:30
  with
• 31:30
  all
• 31:30
  four
• 31:31
  of
• 31:31
  us.
• 31:32
  But
• 31:32
  then
• 31:33
  again,
• 31:33
  I
• 31:33
  didn't
• 31:33
  really
• 31:34
  miss
• 31:34
  it
• 31:34
  because
• 31:35
  it
• 31:35
  was.
• 31:36
  Was
• 31:36
  really
• 31:36
  cool
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  be
• 31:37
  able
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  listen
• 31:38
  to
• 31:39
  the
• 31:39
  conversation
• 31:40
  as
• 31:41
  an
• 31:41
  outside
• 31:42
  set
• 31:42
  of
• 31:43
  ears
• 31:43
  for
• 31:43
  the
• 31:44
  first
• 31:44
  time.
• 31:45
  So
• 31:46
  I
• 31:46
  know,
• 31:46
  in
• 31:46
  full
• 31:47
  disclosure,
• 31:47
  I
• 31:47
  know
• 31:48
  what
• 31:48
  you
• 31:48
  were
• 31:48
  doing
• 31:48
  on
• 31:49
  Tuesday
• 31:49
  morning
• 31:49
  at
• 31:49
  8:30
• 31:50
  and
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  know
• 31:50
  that
• 31:50
  we
• 31:51
  were
• 31:51
  having
• 31:51
  way
• 31:52
  more
• 31:52
  fun,
• 31:52
  oh
• 31:53
  my
• 31:53
  gosh.
• 31:53
  Than
• 31:53
  you
• 31:54
  were.
• 31:54
  Way,
• 31:55
  way
• 31:55
  more
• 31:56
  fun.
• 31:56
  Way
• 31:56
  more
• 31:56
  fun.
• 31:57
  There's
• 31:57
  no
• 31:57
  comparison.
• 31:59
  But
• 32:00
  you're
• 32:00
  right.
• 32:00
  I
• 32:00
  mean,
• 32:00
  I
• 32:00
  bet
• 32:01
  it
• 32:01
  is
• 32:01
  very
• 32:01
  interesting.
• 32:02
  As
• 32:02
  we
• 32:02
  were,
• 32:03
  I
• 32:04
  mean,
• 32:04
  we
• 32:04
  had
• 32:04
  a
• 32:04
  great
• 32:04
  conversation
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  we're
• 32:05
  going
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  talk
• 32:06
  a
• 32:06
  little
• 32:06
  bit
• 32:06
  about
• 32:06
  it
• 32:06
  and
• 32:07
  we're
• 32:07
  going
• 32:07
  to
• 32:07
  merge
• 32:08
  all
• 32:08
  of
• 32:08
  this
• 32:08
  into
• 32:08
  one
• 32:08
  episode.
• 32:09
  So
• 32:09
  you're
• 32:10
  going
• 32:10
  to
• 32:10
  get
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  little
• 32:10
  bit
• 32:10
  different
• 32:11
  format.
• 32:11
  For
• 32:12
  those
• 32:12
  of
• 32:12
  you
• 32:12
  who
• 32:12
  are
• 32:12
  listening
• 32:13
  to
• 32:14
  episode
• 32:14
  two,
• 32:15
  we're
• 32:15
  taping
• 32:16
  it
• 32:16
  in
• 32:16
  a
• 32:16
  different
• 32:16
  way
• 32:17
  just
• 32:17
  to
• 32:17
  deal
• 32:17
  with
• 32:18
  life
• 32:19
  happens
• 32:19
  sometimes
• 32:20
  and
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  are
• 32:22
  not
• 32:22
  able
• 32:22
  to
• 32:23
  be
• 32:23
  where
• 32:23
  we
• 32:23
  want
• 32:24
  to
• 32:24
  be
• 32:24
  at
• 32:24
  8:30
• 32:25
  on
• 32:25
  the
• 32:25
  time
• 32:26
  when
• 32:26
  we
• 32:26
  record.
• 32:27
  So
• 32:28
  yeah,
• 32:28
  so
• 32:29
  it
• 32:29
  was
• 32:29
  really
• 32:29
  interesting
• 32:30
  to.
• 32:31
  And
• 32:31
  as
• 32:31
  we
• 32:32
  were
• 32:32
  taping,
• 32:32
  I
• 32:33
  knew
• 32:33
  that
• 32:34
  as
• 32:34
  we
• 32:34
  were
• 32:34
  talking
• 32:34
  about
• 32:35
  what
• 32:35
  emerged
• 32:36
  as
• 32:36
  a
• 32:36
  tale
• 32:36
  of
• 32:37
  two
• 32:37
  stories,
• 32:37
  I
• 32:38
  knew
• 32:38
  that
• 32:38
  you
• 32:38
  and
• 32:38
  I
• 32:38
  were
• 32:38
  going
• 32:39
  to
• 32:39
  talk
• 32:39
  about
• 32:39
  it
• 32:39
  later.
• 32:40
  So
• 32:41
  it
• 32:41
  was
• 32:41
  kind
• 32:41
  of
• 32:41
  fun
• 32:41
  to
• 32:41
  listen
• 32:42
  to
• 32:42
  it.
• 32:43
  I
• 32:43
  was,
• 32:43
  of
• 32:43
  course,
• 32:44
  not
• 32:44
  an
• 32:44
  outsider,
• 32:45
  but.
• 32:46
  Yeah.
• 32:47
  So
• 32:47
  you
• 32:47
  had
• 32:47
  an
• 32:47
  opportunity
• 32:48
  to
• 32:48
  listen
• 32:49
  to
• 32:49
  the
• 32:50
  entire
• 32:50
  episode.
• 32:51
  Of
• 32:51
  course
• 32:51
  it'll
• 32:52
  be
• 32:52
  edited
• 32:52
  a
• 32:52
  little
• 32:52
  bit
• 32:53
  before
• 32:53
  it
• 32:53
  gets
• 32:53
  to
• 32:54
  publication.
• 32:57
  So
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  know
• 32:57
  that
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  whole
• 32:58
  point
• 32:58
  of
• 32:58
  episode
• 32:59
  two
• 32:59
  is
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  talk
• 33:00
  about
• 33:00
  this
• 33:01
  theme
• 33:01
  of
• 33:01
  open
• 33:01
  doors
• 33:02
  and
• 33:02
  unlimited
• 33:02
  possibilities.
• 33:03
  And
• 33:04
  we
• 33:04
  kind
• 33:05
  of
• 33:05
  gravitated
• 33:06
  toward
• 33:07
  this
• 33:07
  tale
• 33:07
  of
• 33:07
  two
• 33:08
  cities.
• 33:08
  So
• 33:08
  let's
• 33:08
  kind
• 33:08
  of
• 33:09
  approach
• 33:09
  it
• 33:09
  first.
• 33:10
  What
• 33:10
  did
• 33:11
  you
• 33:11
  think
• 33:11
  as
• 33:11
  you
• 33:11
  were
• 33:12
  listening
• 33:12
  to
• 33:12
  that
• 33:12
  episode?
• 33:13
  Yeah,
• 33:14
  I
• 33:14
  think
• 33:15
  that,
• 33:15
  you
• 33:15
  know,
• 33:16
  as
• 33:16
  we
• 33:16
  continue
• 33:17
  to
• 33:17
  do
• 33:18
  so,
• 33:18
  well,
• 33:20
  is
• 33:20
  this
• 33:20
  completely
• 33:22
  unscripted
• 33:23
  conversation.
• 33:25
  So
• 33:25
  to
• 33:26
  have
• 33:26
  Michael
• 33:28
  share
• 33:28
  his
• 33:29
  story
• 33:29
  first
• 33:30
  in
• 33:31
  regards
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  his
• 33:32
  experience
• 33:33
  in
• 33:34
  high
• 33:34
  school,
• 33:35
  and
• 33:35
  then
• 33:35
  have
• 33:36
  Alicia
• 33:37
  follow
• 33:37
  up
• 33:38
  with
• 33:39
  a
• 33:40
  very
• 33:40
  different
• 33:41
  experience
• 33:43
  that
• 33:44
  she
• 33:44
  had
• 33:45
  also
• 33:45
  in
• 33:46
  high
• 33:46
  school,
• 33:47
  that
• 33:48
  was
• 33:48
  fascinating
• 33:49
  to
• 33:50
  hear
• 33:51
  the
• 33:51
  difference
• 33:52
  in
• 33:54
  two
• 33:55
  very
• 33:55
  different
• 33:56
  worlds.
• 33:58
  And
• 33:59
  what.
• 33:59
  I
• 33:59
  mean,
• 33:59
  I.
• 34:00
  I
• 34:00
  was
• 34:00
  in
• 34:01
  that
• 34:01
  space
• 34:02
  of
• 34:03
  note
• 34:03
  taking
• 34:04
  and
• 34:04
  listening
• 34:05
  and
• 34:05
  just
• 34:06
  thinking.
• 34:06
  I
• 34:07
  mean,
• 34:07
  Alicia
• 34:08
  had
• 34:08
  me
• 34:09
  at
• 34:10
  self
• 34:11
  agency
• 34:12
  to
• 34:12
  self
• 34:13
  efficacy
• 34:14
  to
• 34:14
  self
• 34:15
  authoring.
• 34:16
  Like,
• 34:16
  that
• 34:16
  was
• 34:17
  a
• 34:17
  mic
• 34:17
  drop
• 34:18
  to
• 34:18
  me.
• 34:19
  I
• 34:19
  was
• 34:19
  getting
• 34:19
  like,
• 34:20
  done,
• 34:21
  like,
• 34:22
  episode
• 34:22
  over.
• 34:23
  We're
• 34:23
  good
• 34:25
  and
• 34:25
  knowing,
• 34:26
  like,
• 34:26
  thinking.
• 34:26
  I
• 34:26
  had
• 34:27
  never
• 34:27
  thought
• 34:28
  of
• 34:28
  that
• 34:29
  before.
• 34:29
  And
• 34:30
  really
• 34:31
  understanding
• 34:32
  that
• 34:33
  as
• 34:34
  we
• 34:35
  are
• 34:36
  moving
• 34:37
  into
• 34:38
  spaces
• 34:39
  ourselves,
• 34:43
  how
• 34:43
  we're
• 34:43
  we
• 34:44
  do
• 34:45
  self
• 34:45
  author
• 34:47
  and
• 34:47
  how
• 34:47
  do
• 34:48
  we
• 34:48
  support
• 34:48
  students
• 34:49
  in
• 34:49
  getting
• 34:50
  there
• 34:50
  and
• 34:50
  what
• 34:51
  that
• 34:51
  means
• 34:52
  in
• 34:53
  the
• 34:53
  power
• 34:54
  that
• 34:54
  we
• 34:55
  hold
• 34:57
  as
• 34:57
  educators
• 34:58
  in.
• 34:59
  In
• 34:59
  words
• 35:01
  and
• 35:01
  in
• 35:02
  actions,
• 35:03
  in
• 35:05
  body
• 35:06
  language,
• 35:07
  and
• 35:07
  how
• 35:07
  we
• 35:09
  set
• 35:09
  up
• 35:09
  our
• 35:09
  classrooms
• 35:10
  and
• 35:11
  how
• 35:11
  we
• 35:12
  position
• 35:13
  things,
• 35:14
  all
• 35:14
  of
• 35:14
  those
• 35:15
  pieces
• 35:17
  really
• 35:18
  come
• 35:18
  in
• 35:20
  to
• 35:20
  what
• 35:20
  is
• 35:21
  that
• 35:21
  message
• 35:22
  that
• 35:22
  we're
• 35:23
  sending?
• 35:24
  What
• 35:24
  is
• 35:24
  our
• 35:24
  intention?
• 35:25
  What
• 35:25
  does
• 35:26
  that
• 35:26
  mean?
• 35:28
  Yeah.
• 35:29
  As
• 35:29
  I
• 35:30
  was
• 35:30
  listening
• 35:30
  to
• 35:31
  the
• 35:31
  stories
• 35:31
  come
• 35:32
  out
• 35:32
  and
• 35:32
  then
• 35:33
  listening
• 35:33
  to
• 35:33
  you,
• 35:34
  one
• 35:35
  of
• 35:35
  the
• 35:35
  things
• 35:35
  that
• 35:36
  we
• 35:36
  say
• 35:36
  in
• 35:37
  powerful
• 35:37
  student
• 35:37
  care
• 35:38
  is
• 35:39
  intentions
• 35:39
  are
• 35:39
  one
• 35:40
  thing,
• 35:40
  but
• 35:40
  what
• 35:40
  kid
• 35:41
  experiences
• 35:42
  is
• 35:42
  another.
• 35:43
  And
• 35:44
  certainly
• 35:45
  you
• 35:45
  can
• 35:45
  argue
• 35:46
  here
• 35:46
  in
• 35:47
  these
• 35:47
  tale
• 35:48
  of
• 35:48
  two
• 35:48
  stories
• 35:48
  that
• 35:49
  the
• 35:49
  intentions
• 35:51
  were
• 35:52
  very
• 35:52
  different.
• 35:52
  Right.
• 35:54
  So
• 35:55
  here,
• 35:55
  intention
• 35:56
  played
• 35:56
  a
• 35:57
  major
• 35:57
  role
• 35:59
  in
• 35:59
  what
• 35:59
  was
• 36:00
  going
• 36:00
  on
• 36:01
  and
• 36:02
  determining
• 36:04
  what
• 36:04
  each
• 36:04
  person
• 36:05
  experienced.
• 36:06
  But,
• 36:06
  you
• 36:06
  know,
• 36:07
  sometimes
• 36:07
  our
• 36:07
  intentions
• 36:08
  aren't
• 36:08
  that
• 36:09
  blatantly
• 36:09
  horrible.
• 36:10
  Right.
• 36:11
  And
• 36:11
  yet
• 36:12
  children
• 36:13
  experience
• 36:14
  things
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  we
• 36:15
  did
• 36:15
  not
• 36:15
  intend
• 36:16
  for
• 36:17
  them
• 36:17
  to
• 36:17
  have
• 36:17
  happen.
• 36:18
  So
• 36:18
  I
• 36:19
  think,
• 36:19
  absolutely,
• 36:20
  when
• 36:20
  we
• 36:20
  think
• 36:20
  about
• 36:21
  open
• 36:21
  doors
• 36:21
  and
• 36:21
  unlimited
• 36:22
  possibilities,
• 36:24
  our
• 36:24
  intent
• 36:27
  matters.
• 36:28
  What
• 36:28
  they
• 36:29
  experience
• 36:30
  matters
• 36:31
  as
• 36:32
  well.
• 36:33
  Absolutely.
• 36:34
  And
• 36:34
  that's
• 36:34
  why,
• 36:34
  to
• 36:35
  me,
• 36:35
  that
• 36:36
  those
• 36:37
  unintentional
• 36:38
  pieces
• 36:40
  are
• 36:40
  so
• 36:41
  significant
• 36:41
  in
• 36:42
  how
• 36:42
  do
• 36:42
  we
• 36:44
  unpack
• 36:45
  our
• 36:46
  mindsets
• 36:47
  what
• 36:47
  does
• 36:48
  that
• 36:48
  mean?
• 36:48
  To
• 36:49
  really
• 36:50
  be
• 36:50
  looking
• 36:51
  at
• 36:52
  and
• 36:52
  digging
• 36:53
  into
• 36:54
  our
• 36:54
  own
• 36:56
  beliefs,
• 36:57
  our
• 36:57
  own
• 36:58
  biases
• 36:59
  that
• 36:59
  we
• 37:00
  maybe
• 37:00
  don't
• 37:01
  know
• 37:01
  exists?
• 37:02
  And
• 37:02
  how
• 37:03
  do
• 37:03
  we
• 37:03
  surface
• 37:03
  those
• 37:04
  to
• 37:04
  be
• 37:04
  able
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  start
• 37:05
  to
• 37:06
  recognize
• 37:07
  that
• 37:09
  actions,
• 37:10
  words,
• 37:11
  the
• 37:12
  way
• 37:12
  we
• 37:12
  decorate
• 37:13
  our
• 37:13
  classroom,
• 37:14
  the
• 37:14
  way
• 37:14
  that
• 37:14
  we
• 37:15
  decorate
• 37:16
  our
• 37:16
  building,
• 37:17
  if
• 37:17
  we're
• 37:17
  at
• 37:17
  the
• 37:18
  leadership
• 37:18
  level,
• 37:19
  whatever
• 37:20
  that
• 37:20
  looks
• 37:21
  like,
• 37:22
  what
• 37:23
  message
• 37:23
  are
• 37:24
  we
• 37:24
  sending?
• 37:25
  And
• 37:25
  is
• 37:26
  that
• 37:27
  what's
• 37:27
  being
• 37:27
  received
• 37:29
  by
• 37:29
  our
• 37:30
  students,
• 37:31
  that
• 37:31
  ultimately
• 37:34
  we're
• 37:34
  either
• 37:35
  opening
• 37:36
  or
• 37:36
  closing
• 37:37
  that
• 37:37
  door
• 37:39
  for
• 37:39
  each
• 37:39
  of
• 37:40
  them?
• 37:41
  And
• 37:41
  I
• 37:41
  think
• 37:41
  that's
• 37:42
  the.
• 37:42
  I
• 37:42
  think
• 37:42
  that's,
• 37:43
  for
• 37:44
  me,
• 37:44
  that's
• 37:44
  the
• 37:44
  scary
• 37:45
  part.
• 37:45
  And
• 37:45
  it's
• 37:46
  also
• 37:46
  the
• 37:46
  really,
• 37:46
  the
• 37:46
  most
• 37:47
  important
• 37:47
  thing
• 37:47
  for
• 37:48
  us
• 37:48
  to
• 37:48
  remember
• 37:49
  is
• 37:49
  that
• 37:51
  every
• 37:51
  single
• 37:52
  decision
• 37:52
  we
• 37:52
  make,
• 37:55
  from
• 37:55
  a
• 37:55
  little
• 37:56
  stupid
• 37:57
  little
• 37:57
  decision
• 37:57
  that
• 37:58
  seems
• 37:58
  stupid.
• 37:58
  Right.
• 37:59
  Seems
• 37:59
  like
• 37:59
  a
• 38:00
  trivial,
• 38:00
  little
• 38:01
  insignificant
• 38:01
  decision
• 38:02
  to
• 38:04
  all
• 38:04
  the
• 38:04
  big
• 38:04
  ones.
• 38:06
  Every
• 38:06
  decision
• 38:07
  we
• 38:07
  make
• 38:07
  has
• 38:07
  a
• 38:07
  consequence
• 38:09
  about
• 38:10
  what
• 38:10
  somebody
• 38:11
  experiences.
• 38:13
  Yeah.
• 38:13
  And
• 38:13
  you
• 38:13
  said
• 38:14
  that
• 38:14
  in
• 38:14
  the
• 38:14
  conversation,
• 38:15
  right,
• 38:15
  with
• 38:16
  what
• 38:16
  we
• 38:16
  say,
• 38:17
  how
• 38:17
  we
• 38:18
  say
• 38:18
  it,
• 38:20
  what
• 38:20
  are
• 38:20
  our
• 38:20
  intentions
• 38:22
  and
• 38:22
  whether
• 38:23
  we
• 38:24
  mean
• 38:24
  to
• 38:25
  do
• 38:25
  harm?
• 38:25
  I
• 38:25
  mean,
• 38:26
  we've,
• 38:26
  we've
• 38:26
  talked
• 38:26
  about
• 38:27
  this
• 38:28
  many
• 38:28
  times
• 38:29
  throughout
• 38:30
  the.
• 38:30
  The
• 38:31
  seasons
• 38:31
  on
• 38:32
  this
• 38:32
  podcast
• 38:33
  that
• 38:34
  we,
• 38:34
  we
• 38:35
  know
• 38:35
  educators
• 38:36
  aren't
• 38:36
  out
• 38:37
  there
• 38:37
  intending
• 38:37
  to
• 38:38
  do
• 38:38
  harm,
• 38:41
  but
• 38:41
  are
• 38:41
  we
• 38:42
  asking
• 38:43
  ourselves
• 38:44
  those
• 38:44
  questions
• 38:44
  around,
• 38:47
  what
• 38:48
  is
• 38:48
  it
• 38:48
  that
• 38:48
  we're
• 38:48
  doing
• 38:49
  and
• 38:50
  saying,
• 38:51
  how
• 38:51
  are
• 38:51
  we
• 38:51
  doing
• 38:52
  it?
• 38:52
  How
• 38:53
  are
• 38:53
  we
• 38:53
  delivering
• 38:55
  that
• 38:55
  message?
• 38:57
  And
• 38:58
  is
• 38:58
  it
• 38:58
  sending
• 38:59
  a
• 38:59
  different.
• 38:59
  Is
• 39:00
  there
• 39:00
  a
• 39:00
  different
• 39:01
  experience
• 39:02
  on
• 39:02
  the
• 39:02
  other
• 39:03
  end,
• 39:03
  the
• 39:03
  person
• 39:04
  that's
• 39:05
  actually
• 39:05
  receiving
• 39:06
  it?
• 39:07
  You
• 39:07
  know,
• 39:07
  my
• 39:07
  husband
• 39:08
  and
• 39:08
  I
• 39:08
  were.
• 39:10
  We
• 39:10
  love
• 39:11
  to
• 39:11
  go
• 39:11
  to
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  farmer's
• 39:12
  market
• 39:14
  on
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  weekends,
• 39:15
  and
• 39:15
  there's
• 39:15
  this
• 39:16
  beautiful
• 39:16
  new
• 39:17
  building
• 39:17
  in
• 39:18
  our
• 39:19
  community,
• 39:19
  a
• 39:20
  school
• 39:20
  building
• 39:21
  that
• 39:23
  my
• 39:23
  husband
• 39:23
  just
• 39:23
  keeps
• 39:24
  talking
• 39:24
  about
• 39:24
  it,
• 39:24
  how
• 39:25
  beautiful
• 39:25
  it
• 39:26
  is.
• 39:26
  They've
• 39:26
  just
• 39:26
  rebuilt
• 39:27
  it
• 39:28
  in
• 39:28
  this
• 39:29
  pretty
• 39:30
  quite
• 39:30
  impoverished
• 39:31
  community.
• 39:32
  But
• 39:33
  this
• 39:33
  beautiful
• 39:34
  building
• 39:35
  and
• 39:36
  how
• 39:36
  different
• 39:36
  that
• 39:37
  is
• 39:37
  from
• 39:37
  what
• 39:37
  it
• 39:38
  used
• 39:38
  to
• 39:38
  be
• 39:38
  when
• 39:39
  he
• 39:39
  actually
• 39:40
  went
• 39:40
  to
• 39:41
  that
• 39:42
  school
• 39:42
  as
• 39:42
  a
• 39:42
  child
• 39:44
  at
• 39:44
  one
• 39:44
  point,
• 39:45
  and
• 39:45
  I
• 39:45
  said,
• 39:46
  how
• 39:47
  about
• 39:47
  what
• 39:47
  goes
• 39:48
  on
• 39:48
  inside
• 39:49
  that
• 39:49
  building?
• 39:50
  You
• 39:51
  know,
• 39:51
  so
• 39:52
  absolutely
• 39:53
  every
• 39:53
  child
• 39:53
  deserves
• 39:54
  that.
• 39:55
  I
• 39:55
  mean,
• 39:55
  that
• 39:55
  message
• 39:56
  being
• 39:56
  sent,
• 39:56
  even
• 39:57
  with
• 39:57
  the
• 39:57
  building,
• 39:59
  we
• 40:00
  deserve
• 40:01
  a
• 40:01
  new
• 40:02
  building,
• 40:03
  a
• 40:03
  new
• 40:03
  school,
• 40:05
  this
• 40:05
  brick
• 40:06
  and
• 40:06
  mortar
• 40:07
  space,
• 40:08
  we
• 40:08
  deserve
• 40:09
  this.
• 40:10
  But
• 40:10
  what's
• 40:11
  most
• 40:11
  important
• 40:13
  is
• 40:13
  what's
• 40:14
  happening
• 40:14
  inside.
• 40:16
  Inside
• 40:17
  those
• 40:17
  doors,
• 40:18
  inside
• 40:19
  those
• 40:19
  classrooms.
• 40:21
  Does
• 40:22
  it
• 40:22
  match
• 40:24
  what
• 40:25
  that
• 40:25
  building
• 40:26
  looks
• 40:26
  like,
• 40:27
  what
• 40:27
  message
• 40:29
  they're
• 40:29
  getting
• 40:30
  by
• 40:30
  having
• 40:31
  this
• 40:31
  new
• 40:31
  space?
• 40:34
  Are
• 40:34
  those
• 40:35
  the
• 40:35
  same
• 40:35
  kind
• 40:35
  of
• 40:36
  unlimited
• 40:36
  possibilities
• 40:37
  that
• 40:38
  are
• 40:38
  being
• 40:40
  message
• 40:41
  to
• 40:41
  them
• 40:42
  by
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  actions
• 40:43
  and
• 40:43
  words
• 40:44
  from
• 40:44
  all
• 40:45
  of
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  administrators
• 40:46
  in
• 40:46
  that
• 40:46
  space?
• 40:48
  And
• 40:49
  we,
• 40:49
  as
• 40:49
  educators,
• 40:50
  we
• 40:51
  have
• 40:51
  to
• 40:51
  be
• 40:51
  brave
• 40:51
  enough
• 40:52
  to
• 40:52
  ask
• 40:53
  that
• 40:53
  question.
• 40:55
  I
• 40:55
  was
• 40:55
  a
• 40:55
  high
• 40:55
  school
• 40:56
  teacher,
• 40:56
  so
• 40:57
  I
• 40:57
  would
• 40:57
  see
• 40:58
  150
• 41:00
  to
• 41:00
  100,
• 41:01
  depending
• 41:02
  on
• 41:02
  the
• 41:02
  years,
• 41:02
  150
• 41:04
  to
• 41:04
  170
• 41:05
  students
• 41:05
  a
• 41:06
  day.
• 41:06
  I
• 41:07
  hope
• 41:07
  it
• 41:07
  was
• 41:07
  closer
• 41:08
  to
• 41:08
  150,
• 41:09
  because
• 41:09
  that
• 41:09
  makes
• 41:09
  me
• 41:09
  exhausted
• 41:10
  just
• 41:10
  to
• 41:10
  think
• 41:11
  about
• 41:11
  now.
• 41:13
  And
• 41:13
  if
• 41:14
  at
• 41:15
  any
• 41:15
  given
• 41:15
  day,
• 41:15
  if
• 41:16
  you
• 41:16
  ask
• 41:16
  yourself
• 41:16
  if
• 41:17
  you're
• 41:17
  brave
• 41:17
  enough
• 41:17
  to
• 41:17
  ask
• 41:18
  the
• 41:18
  question,
• 41:20
  no
• 41:21
  matter
• 41:21
  how
• 41:21
  good
• 41:21
  your
• 41:21
  intentions
• 41:22
  are,
• 41:23
  right.
• 41:24
  There's
• 41:25
  something
• 41:25
  that
• 41:25
  could
• 41:26
  have
• 41:26
  been
• 41:26
  a
• 41:26
  little
• 41:26
  bit
• 41:27
  different
• 41:27
  and
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  little
• 41:27
  bit
• 41:28
  better
• 41:30
  to
• 41:30
  be
• 41:30
  experienced
• 41:31
  by
• 41:31
  at
• 41:31
  least
• 41:31
  one
• 41:32
  person,
• 41:33
  Right?
• 41:33
  Absolutely.
• 41:35
  So
• 41:35
  the
• 41:35
  answer
• 41:36
  every
• 41:36
  day
• 41:36
  is,
• 41:37
  you
• 41:37
  know,
• 41:37
  oh,
• 41:38
  you
• 41:38
  know,
• 41:39
  wasn't
• 41:39
  quite
• 41:39
  good
• 41:39
  enough.
• 41:40
  Right?
• 41:40
  Wasn't
• 41:41
  quite
• 41:41
  good
• 41:41
  enough.
• 41:41
  But
• 41:42
  we
• 41:42
  have
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  get
• 41:42
  to
• 41:43
  the
• 41:43
  point
• 41:43
  where
• 41:44
  that's
• 41:44
  okay.
• 41:44
  I
• 41:44
  mean,
• 41:45
  it's
• 41:45
  not
• 41:45
  okay
• 41:45
  that
• 41:46
  we
• 41:46
  weren't
• 41:46
  good
• 41:46
  enough,
• 41:47
  but
• 41:47
  we
• 41:47
  don't
• 41:47
  beat
• 41:47
  ourselves
• 41:48
  up
• 41:48
  about
• 41:48
  that.
• 41:48
  But
• 41:49
  we
• 41:49
  say,
• 41:49
  wait
• 41:49
  a
• 41:49
  minute,
• 41:50
  how
• 41:50
  do
• 41:50
  I
• 41:50
  focus?
• 41:52
  How
• 41:52
  do
• 41:52
  I
• 41:52
  really
• 41:52
  be
• 41:53
  in
• 41:53
  tune
• 41:56
  with
• 41:56
  falling
• 41:57
  short
• 41:58
  for
• 41:58
  that
• 41:59
  particular
• 41:59
  student
• 42:00
  so
• 42:00
  that
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  don't
• 42:00
  do
• 42:00
  it
• 42:01
  again,
• 42:01
  Right.
• 42:01
  So
• 42:01
  that
• 42:02
  I.
• 42:02
  That
• 42:02
  I'm
• 42:03
  conscious
• 42:03
  of.
• 42:04
  Of
• 42:04
  that.
• 42:05
  Because,
• 42:05
  you
• 42:05
  know,
• 42:06
  powerful
• 42:06
  messages
• 42:07
  are
• 42:07
  interpreted
• 42:08
  lots
• 42:08
  of
• 42:08
  different
• 42:08
  ways.
• 42:09
  And
• 42:09
  when
• 42:09
  you've
• 42:09
  got
• 42:10
  150,
• 42:11
  there's,
• 42:11
  you
• 42:11
  know,
• 42:11
  it's
• 42:11
  150
• 42:12
  different
• 42:12
  ways
• 42:13
  of
• 42:13
  interpreting
• 42:14
  something.
• 42:16
  But
• 42:17
  we.
• 42:17
  We
• 42:17
  have
• 42:17
  to
• 42:18
  be.
• 42:18
  We
• 42:18
  have
• 42:18
  to
• 42:18
  be
• 42:18
  courageous
• 42:19
  enough,
• 42:21
  in
• 42:21
  my
• 42:21
  opinion,
• 42:22
  to
• 42:22
  ask
• 42:23
  a
• 42:23
  lot
• 42:23
  of
• 42:23
  questions
• 42:24
  to,
• 42:24
  you
• 42:24
  know,
• 42:24
  to.
• 42:25
  We
• 42:26
  should
• 42:26
  be
• 42:26
  asking
• 42:26
  more
• 42:27
  questions
• 42:27
  than
• 42:27
  we
• 42:27
  are
• 42:28
  making
• 42:28
  decisions.
• 42:29
  Absolutely.
• 42:30
  And
• 42:30
  I
• 42:30
  think
• 42:31
  when
• 42:31
  we
• 42:31
  know
• 42:31
  better,
• 42:31
  we
• 42:32
  do
• 42:32
  better,
• 42:33
  and
• 42:33
  we're
• 42:33
  human
• 42:34
  and
• 42:34
  we're.
• 42:35
  We're
• 42:35
  not
• 42:35
  going
• 42:36
  to
• 42:36
  be
• 42:36
  perfect.
• 42:37
  And
• 42:37
  so
• 42:37
  being
• 42:38
  willing
• 42:39
  to
• 42:39
  reflect,
• 42:40
  to
• 42:41
  surface
• 42:42
  our
• 42:42
  mental
• 42:42
  models,
• 42:43
  to
• 42:44
  be
• 42:44
  honest
• 42:45
  with
• 42:46
  ourselves
• 42:47
  and
• 42:48
  continue
• 42:48
  to
• 42:49
  grow
• 42:49
  and
• 42:50
  to
• 42:50
  be
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  best
• 42:53
  versions
• 42:53
  of
• 42:54
  ourselves
• 42:54
  for
• 42:55
  every
• 42:55
  single
• 42:56
  student,
• 42:58
  to
• 42:58
  ensure
• 42:59
  that
• 43:01
  we
• 43:01
  are
• 43:01
  providing
• 43:02
  open
• 43:03
  doors
• 43:03
  and
• 43:04
  creating
• 43:05
  unlimited
• 43:05
  possibilities.
• 43:08
  And
• 43:09
  to
• 43:09
  go
• 43:10
  back
• 43:10
  and
• 43:10
  to
• 43:10
  honor
• 43:10
  Alicia's
• 43:11
  story,
• 43:12
  I
• 43:12
  think
• 43:13
  not
• 43:13
  to.
• 43:13
  You
• 43:14
  know,
• 43:14
  certainly
• 43:15
  this
• 43:15
  conversation
• 43:16
  has
• 43:16
  been
• 43:16
  about
• 43:17
  intent
• 43:18
  and
• 43:19
  recognizing
• 43:20
  that
• 43:20
  we
• 43:20
  all
• 43:20
  have
• 43:21
  good,
• 43:22
  positive
• 43:22
  intent,
• 43:23
  but
• 43:24
  we
• 43:24
  also
• 43:24
  have
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  check
• 43:25
  ourselves,
• 43:26
  right?
• 43:26
  Because
• 43:27
  not
• 43:27
  everybody.
• 43:28
  Not
• 43:28
  everybody
• 43:28
  comes
• 43:29
  to
• 43:29
  the
• 43:29
  space
• 43:30
  with
• 43:30
  good,
• 43:31
  honest
• 43:32
  intent.
• 43:32
  And
• 43:33
  some
• 43:33
  of
• 43:33
  us
• 43:33
  come
• 43:34
  to
• 43:34
  the
• 43:34
  space
• 43:35
  with
• 43:36
  implicit
• 43:37
  or
• 43:37
  explicit
• 43:38
  bias
• 43:38
  that
• 43:39
  we
• 43:39
  have
• 43:39
  to
• 43:39
  be
• 43:39
  willing
• 43:41
  to
• 43:41
  let
• 43:41
  go
• 43:41
  of.
• 43:42
  And
• 43:43
  Alicia's
• 43:43
  story,
• 43:45
  and
• 43:46
  there
• 43:47
  are
• 43:47
  countless
• 43:47
  examples
• 43:48
  of
• 43:48
  that
• 43:48
  story
• 43:48
  every
• 43:48
  single
• 43:49
  day
• 43:49
  all
• 43:49
  over
• 43:50
  the
• 43:50
  country
• 43:53
  are
• 43:53
  examples
• 43:54
  where
• 43:55
  bias,
• 43:57
  right,
• 43:57
  gets
• 43:58
  in
• 43:58
  the
• 43:58
  way
• 44:00
  of
• 44:01
  good
• 44:01
  intentions.
• 44:02
  And
• 44:02
  we
• 44:03
  have
• 44:03
  to
• 44:03
  be.
• 44:03
  We
• 44:04
  also
• 44:04
  have
• 44:04
  to
• 44:04
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• 44:04
  really
• 44:05
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• 44:05
  at
• 44:07
  surfacing
• 44:08
  those,
• 44:08
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• 44:08
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• 44:09
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• 44:09
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• 44:10
  right,
• 44:10
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• 44:11
  those
• 44:11
  mental
• 44:12
  models
• 44:13
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• 44:13
  thinking
• 44:13
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• 44:14
  you
• 44:14
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• 44:14
  where
• 44:15
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• 44:15
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• 44:15
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• 44:15
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• 44:15
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• 44:16
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• 44:16
  Why
• 44:16
  they
• 44:16
  are
• 44:17
  what
• 44:17
  they
• 44:17
  are
• 44:17
  and
• 44:17
  how
• 44:18
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• 44:18
  change.
• 44:18
  Change
• 44:18
  them.
• 44:21
  Because
• 44:21
  that's
• 44:21
  also
• 44:22
  really
• 44:22
  important
• 44:23
  to
• 44:23
  this
• 44:23
  idea
• 44:24
  of
• 44:24
  open
• 44:24
  doors
• 44:24
  and
• 44:25
  unlimited
• 44:25
  possibilities.
• 44:28
  Completely
• 44:28
  agree.
• 44:29
  And
• 44:29
  I
• 44:29
  appreciate
• 44:30
  you
• 44:30
  bringing
• 44:30
  us
• 44:31
  back
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  that.
• 44:32
  I
• 44:32
  think
• 44:32
  that
• 44:33
  that
• 44:34
  is
• 44:35
  significant
• 44:36
  in
• 44:36
  the
• 44:36
  growth
• 44:37
  as
• 44:37
  humans
• 44:38
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• 44:39
  knowing
• 44:39
  that
• 44:40
  as
• 44:41
  we
• 44:41
  learn
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  grow
• 44:44
  within
• 44:45
  ourselves,
• 44:47
  we
• 44:47
  can
• 44:47
  make
• 44:48
  those
• 44:48
  changes.
• 44:50
  We
• 44:50
  can
• 44:51
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• 44:51
  better
• 44:53
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• 44:53
  each
• 44:53
  student.
• 44:56
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• 44:56
  have
• 44:56
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• 44:57
  We
• 44:57
  have
• 44:57
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• 44:58
  We
• 44:58
  have
• 44:58
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• 44:59
  Their
• 44:59
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• 45:00
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• 45:00
  lives
• 45:01
  depend
• 45:01
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• 45:01
  it.
• 45:03
  So
• 45:03
  if
• 45:03
  we
• 45:04
  enter
• 45:04
  classroom
• 45:05
  spaces
• 45:06
  to
• 45:06
  work
• 45:06
  with
• 45:07
  young
• 45:07
  people,
• 45:07
  we
• 45:08
  must,
• 45:09
  we
• 45:09
  absolutely
• 45:10
  must
• 45:10
  be
• 45:11
  ready,
• 45:11
  willing,
• 45:12
  courageous
• 45:12
  and
• 45:13
  able
• 45:13
  to,
• 45:15
  to
• 45:16
  identify
• 45:17
  those
• 45:17
  things
• 45:17
  that
• 45:17
  get
• 45:17
  in
• 45:18
  the
• 45:18
  way.
• 45:19
  Our
• 45:19
  children
• 45:19
  need
• 45:20
  that.
• 45:20
  They
• 45:20
  demand
• 45:21
  that
• 45:21
  of
• 45:21
  us.
• 45:22
  And
• 45:22
  they
• 45:22
  have
• 45:22
  every
• 45:23
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• 45:24
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• 45:24
  demand
• 45:25
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• 45:25
  us
• 45:25
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• 45:25
  to
• 45:26
  expect
• 45:26
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• 45:26
  of
• 45:26
  us.
• 45:29
  Absolutely.
• 45:30
  And
• 45:31
  that,
• 45:31
  my
• 45:31
  friends,
• 45:32
  brings
• 45:32
  us
• 45:32
  to
• 45:33
  the
• 45:33
  real
• 45:33
  end
• 45:34
  of
• 45:34
  Episode
• 45:35
  two.
• 45:35
  We'll
• 45:36
  see
• 45:36
  you
• 45:36
  next
• 45:36
  week
• 45:37
  in
• 45:37
  the
• 45:38
  Wheelhouse.
• 45:44
  And
• 45:45
  that's
• 45:45
  a
• 45:45
  wrap
• 45:45
  of
• 45:45
  season
• 45:46
  10,
• 45:46
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• 45:47
  two
• 45:47
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• 45:47
  the
• 45:47
  Wheelhouse.
• 45:48
  A
• 45:48
  special
• 45:49
  thank
• 45:49
  you
• 45:49
  to
• 45:49
  the
• 45:50
  team,
• 45:50
  Kathy
• 45:50
  Mone,
• 45:51
  Michael
• 45:51
  Pipa
• 45:52
  and
• 45:52
  Dr.
• 45:52
  Alicia
• 45:53
  Munro.
• 45:53
  We're
• 45:54
  back
• 45:54
  in
• 45:54
  the
• 45:54
  studio
• 45:55
  next
• 45:55
  week
• 45:55
  and
• 45:55
  we
• 45:56
  can't
• 45:56
  wait
• 45:56
  to
• 45:56
  continue
• 45:57
  the
• 45:57
  conversation
• 45:57
  with
• 45:58
  you.
• 45:58
  To
• 45:59
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• 45:59
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• 45:59
  you
• 45:59
  who
• 46:00
  have
• 46:00
  ever
• 46:00
  felt
• 46:00
  that
• 46:00
  you
• 46:01
  weren't
• 46:01
  in
• 46:01
  a
• 46:01
  space
• 46:01
  where
• 46:02
  you
• 46:02
  could
• 46:02
  breathe
• 46:03
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• 46:03
  where
• 46:03
  someone
• 46:04
  was
• 46:04
  limiting
• 46:05
  your
• 46:05
  potential,
• 46:06
  this
• 46:06
  one's
• 46:07
  for
• 46:07
  you.
• 46:08
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• 46:08
  hope
• 46:08
  you'll
• 46:09
  join
• 46:09
  the
• 46:09
  Wheelhouse
• 46:10
  Company.
• 46:11
  Are
• 46:11
  you
• 46:11
  a
• 46:11
  like
• 46:11
  minded
• 46:12
  educator
• 46:12
  who's
• 46:13
  committed
• 46:13
  to
• 46:13
  open
• 46:14
  doors
• 46:14
  and
• 46:15
  unlimited
• 46:15
  possibilities
• 46:16
  for
• 46:16
  each
• 46:17
  student?
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• 46:18
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• 46:21
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• 46:22
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• 46:22
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• 46:23
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• 46:23
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• 46:23
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• 46:24
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• 46:25
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• 46:26
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• 46:26
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• 46:26
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• 46:27
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• 46:29
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• 46:29
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• 46:29
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• 46:30
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• 46:30
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• 46:30
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• 46:30
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• 46:31
  we're
• 46:31
  all
• 46:31
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• 46:32
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• 46:32
  continue
• 46:32
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• 46:33
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• 46:33
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• 46:34
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• 46:34
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• 46:35
  thewheelhouse.substack.com
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• 46:42
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• 46:43
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• 46:44
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• 46:45
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• 46:45
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• 46:46
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• 46:46
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• 46:46
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• 46:51
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• 46:51
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• 46:52
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• 46:52
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• 46:52
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• 46:53
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• 46:54
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• 46:54
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• 46:54
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• 46:55
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• 46:55
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• 46:56
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• 46:56
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• 46:56
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• 46:57
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• 47:03
  www.ourstudentsmatter.org.
• 47:08
  together,
• 47:08
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• 47:09
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• 47:09
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• 47:09
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• 47:10
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• 47:10
  prove
• 47:10
  to
• 47:10
  each
• 47:10
  student
• 47:11
  and
• 47:11
  to
• 47:12
  each
• 47:12
  teacher
• 47:12
  that
• 47:12
  they
• 47:13
  are
• 47:13
  both
• 47:13
  distinctive
• 47:14
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• 47:14
  irreplaceable.
• 47:16
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• 47:16
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• 47:16
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• 47:16
  Remember,
• 47:17
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• 47:18
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• 47:18
  this.