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Syleena Johnson (2nd Appearance) Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a Grammy nominated artists, songwriter, author,
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Speaker 1: was on the show, we discussed her new book, The
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Speaker 1: Weight Is over Weight being spelled w E I g
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Speaker 1: h T is a compelling and triumphant journey towards self
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Speaker 1: love and discovery. And she tells us about her battles
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Speaker 1: with body image that are in adolescents and charac throughout
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Speaker 1: her music career. Well, she is now a fitness competitor,
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Speaker 1: talk show co host and he has and she has
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Speaker 1: a new single, Well You're gonna We're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: the very top of this interview called woman. Please welcome
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Speaker 1: back to Money Making Conversation. My girl, Selena Johnson. I'm
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Speaker 1: doing fantastic and thank you for taking the time to
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Speaker 1: come on the show to provide new content for people
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Speaker 1: who are stuck at home or just listening, and just
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Speaker 1: really providing inspiration because you are an inspiration, Selena. Now
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Speaker 1: just talk about the video. Just how prepared for my shows, Lena,
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Speaker 1: I always like within the twenty four hour period to
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Speaker 1: the interview, always started gathering all my information, so everything
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Speaker 1: is really fresh. So the music video Woman, which I've
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Speaker 1: seen three times now because the lyrics, I kept hearing
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Speaker 1: the lyrics about what a woman would do and what
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Speaker 1: a man gets away with, you know, a woman giving
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Speaker 1: a good advice and a man a lot. You know
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Speaker 1: so so I said, so so being a man that
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Speaker 1: was raised by a woman with six sis. Just my
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Speaker 1: father stayed in my life, but I had six sisters
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Speaker 1: who are impacted my life. The importance of I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at this video. You start out the front top of
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Speaker 1: the video with just with this black outfit on and
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Speaker 1: then you're walking down it's kind of gangster style, but
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Speaker 1: it's but it's motivated because it's empowering. Talk about the
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Speaker 1: the idea of this this video, the concept, because it's
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Speaker 1: definitely a wash. First of all, it's it's two things.
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Speaker 1: It's a much watch video and it's a much listening
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Speaker 1: to video because the lyrics tell an amazing story about
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Speaker 1: overcoming the art. But the video is pro today. Tell
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Speaker 1: us about Selenda Jospha. Well, the video was next to look. Um,
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Speaker 1: everything is very symbolic. It's not it's not nettle. So
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Speaker 1: like when you think of the lyrics, uh tale lines
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Speaker 1: like a man not necessarily, Um, men all men lives,
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Speaker 1: you know, because they don't from what but what it does,
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Speaker 1: what it is significant to is our nation and how
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Speaker 1: we have a president that live, you know, and how
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Speaker 1: there are so many male leader, male leading politicians and
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Speaker 1: men in legislation, you know, because because men actually kind
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Speaker 1: of run the world. You know what I'm saying, they're
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Speaker 1: they're the most empowered. They get paid the most for
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Speaker 1: the same jobs that women do, and they lie, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, They lie to keep those positions.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times men have their lives to stay
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Speaker 1: in power, you know, I mean, so he lives like
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Speaker 1: a man is anonymous to that concept, um, because uh
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Speaker 1: sacrifice like a woman. We always sacrifice, were always sacrificing
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Speaker 1: our things and going because of children. You know, that's
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Speaker 1: that's the running story, you know what I'm saying. And
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Speaker 1: so the militant um look is comes from the Black
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Speaker 1: Panthers because in the Black Panther movement, um, they were
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Speaker 1: trying to find their strength in their their colors, you know,
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Speaker 1: which is we're not really literally the color black, but
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Speaker 1: that's the name of our races, you know, that was
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Speaker 1: the name of our race black. She's like white people
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Speaker 1: are not literally white, but we were given the name
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Speaker 1: of black because of course that that if you think
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Speaker 1: of the what's traditionary terms in the voids um of
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Speaker 1: no color of no, well, we're the total opposite of that.
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Speaker 1: Actually it's confidentary because these can Alina called us code.
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Speaker 1: That's actually weird because it was the Black sensers era,
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Speaker 1: was them taking charge of that name and making it
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Speaker 1: something strong, you know, so uh taking it you know.
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Speaker 1: So for the woman we took a hold of the
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Speaker 1: look of that was to take a hold of what
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Speaker 1: we're being, um stereotyped as and trying to and and
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Speaker 1: um coming together, you know, women coming together organizing to
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Speaker 1: make I'll tell you something, Ms Johnson, Um, I was
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Speaker 1: not offended by the lyrics, just being honest, because I'm
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Speaker 1: a man, and I know how I have to. I
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Speaker 1: have to bluff my way through deals. I've had to
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Speaker 1: be a person that some people thought I was that
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Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't, but that didn't tell me I
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Speaker 1: should stop for seeing the opportunity. What you're talking about
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Speaker 1: is dad Sometimes, you know, I want to just come
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Speaker 1: out right. Sometimes women have a higher standard than men
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Speaker 1: in business and they shouldn't because of the fact that
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Speaker 1: men will do what it takes to close the deal.
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Speaker 1: And that is there, that's a clear understanding. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's where the term poker face came from. Being able
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Speaker 1: to look at somebody. Men they're encouraged to do that,
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Speaker 1: very encouraged to do so. So women are normally penalized
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Speaker 1: for being strong. Then we're called or or or what
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Speaker 1: is what is views as strengths you know with fan lines,
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Speaker 1: or when a man closes the deal or you know,
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Speaker 1: just like the story of Madam C. J. Walker, she
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Speaker 1: had to go through sacrificing her manage. Her husband just
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Speaker 1: completely just lost control and just kind of went the
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Speaker 1: whole of the directions simply because she was so determined
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Speaker 1: and so focused and so strong. Instead of being her
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Speaker 1: help me, like the Bible says, you know, and because
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Speaker 1: women are viewed, especially during that time, they had guessed
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Speaker 1: that they had just been allowed to vote, so to
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Speaker 1: tom being a predicament where where a woman is is
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Speaker 1: constantly focused and driven and trying to accomplish a goal.
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Speaker 1: That's uncomfortable for men, especially if especially if they they're
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Speaker 1: also trying to get to that same thing and they're
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Speaker 1: not getting there quick enough. So that's why I love
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Speaker 1: the story of Madame c. Walker because even when she
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Speaker 1: got on that stage and um crossed over the booker
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Speaker 1: T Washington and he took her in the back, he said,
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Speaker 1: men need to do it first. And unfortunately, that is
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Speaker 1: a real mentality that still is in aside today, which
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Speaker 1: is why a lot of women, why it's so hard
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Speaker 1: for women to get ahead, which is why we don't
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Speaker 1: get paid as much as men. You know, there's no
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Speaker 1: reason why we should not be all, you know, paid
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Speaker 1: the same for the same work. There's no reason for it,
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Speaker 1: and there's no excuse for it. But it's still good.
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Speaker 1: It's still happening today. It really is. And I, like
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Speaker 1: I said, that's why I wanted to start the interview
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Speaker 1: with the music video woman that I'm talking to a
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Speaker 1: Grammy nominated artists, UH talk show co host Selida Johnson
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Speaker 1: straight out of Chicago that it was another lyric that
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Speaker 1: really was piqued my interrows. Got to think like a woman,
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Speaker 1: take advantage like a man. And that's what we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: You we started out what they gotta think like a woman,
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Speaker 1: but a lot like a man that came across that
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Speaker 1: may come across like men just live like we're just
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Speaker 1: trying to put men down. We're just talking about business.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about how do you negotiate, how you how
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Speaker 1: you maneuver or navigate the relationship. A lot of people
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Speaker 1: call that negotiations. Okay, we'll see I say things like
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Speaker 1: a woman because you know, there's a book and no
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Speaker 1: shade to see body. But I don't agree with the
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Speaker 1: title of his book. Thinks like a man, act like
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Speaker 1: a lady. That's the very myth that that that is
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Speaker 1: the very concept that perpetuates um this entire mentality. Now
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Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming, but it's still propelled that
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Speaker 1: title perpetuates what is acting like exactly. Somebody gives me
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Speaker 1: the actual, uh, the actual directions of acting like. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so that already is a focus, think like a woman
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Speaker 1: in most times in households, in most times, and I
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Speaker 1: won't say all, the woman is the one doing the
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Speaker 1: most thinking. Right, All the man has to do is
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Speaker 1: go out, get a get a job, bring the money back,
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Speaker 1: and the woman get eat it up. She's inside figuring
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Speaker 1: out all the little things. How to run this house whole,
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Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of food the kids should
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Speaker 1: go to, what are their meals, what's gonna what is
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Speaker 1: everybody going to eat? Not only that the inside of
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Speaker 1: the house, the outside of the house. Honey, don't forget
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Speaker 1: to call the guard and don't forget to do this.
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Speaker 1: Yet she's the one doing all the things. She's the
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Speaker 1: one telling him how to navigate on every other thing. Now,
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Speaker 1: of course, when he gets into business, he has to
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Speaker 1: be very independent, and as far as that's concerned, when
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Speaker 1: he gets into his job life, but as far as
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Speaker 1: everything else, he has to come home and have a discussion.
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Speaker 1: What's all about which job to have? He has to
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Speaker 1: come home like when you're married. It's a whole thing,
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Speaker 1: and the woman does a lot of the things that
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Speaker 1: also when a woman says he also think with the
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Speaker 1: piece of emotion that men should because their emotion is
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Speaker 1: in business. Get it twisted. Emotion is in business. It's
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Speaker 1: just how that emotion is allocated and distribute. You can't
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Speaker 1: be overly emotional, but there has to be some type
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Speaker 1: of passion and connection because the things that you're that
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Speaker 1: you're trying to sail by, or the span when it
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Speaker 1: comes to business, it just it's it's just the way.
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Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. Emotional is not all
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Speaker 1: ac crying in a meeting. That's not what the emotional
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Speaker 1: is about. But she's it's let's say you're you're you're
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Speaker 1: a cult representative, but and you really like the way
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Speaker 1: the way that Cope takes. Not just um, you're just
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Speaker 1: selling a product, surely emotionally attached to the way that
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Speaker 1: it takes or the way that it makes you feel.
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Speaker 1: So now you're able to tell it even better because
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Speaker 1: now there's an emotional attassion attachment, there's an emotional attachment,
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Speaker 1: there's a passion that is behind it that allows you
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Speaker 1: to keep driving. Just like Madam C. J. Walker again,
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Speaker 1: I like to go to her story. She really was
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Speaker 1: a father, she was she really was a clone of
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Speaker 1: her own Frother. She's like, this stuff work so She's
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Speaker 1: able to really push this father because of the emotional
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Speaker 1: cat and the passiveness you have behind it. So, um,
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Speaker 1: I feel like a woman when keeps in business. And
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Speaker 1: nowadays we're learning more on how to balance our emotion
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Speaker 1: and our business mindset. Some of us are more emotional,
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Speaker 1: which makes it less productive. But they have men out
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Speaker 1: there that are emotional and don't get criticized for that criticized,
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Speaker 1: which is really key. And we will will yet. And
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Selenda Johnson. A new album empowers and
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Speaker 1: calls all women to stand up for themselves and to
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Speaker 1: be bold, brave, and fearless. You know, when I say
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Speaker 1: those things, let's let's dig a little deeper in that
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Speaker 1: comment being bold, because you know, when women are perceived
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Speaker 1: to aggressive, to be word of pop out, okay, and
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Speaker 1: that's that's a negative which WHI diminishes their intelligence, which
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Speaker 1: do man can diminish their ability to negotiate, which can
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Speaker 1: diminish their ability ability to lead. Because the perception that
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Speaker 1: women should be in their place, women should do certain things,
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Speaker 1: women shouldn't fight in the military, women should lead corporations.
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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about in eighteen six and four
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Speaker 1: But remember this, that's not that far away. And women
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Speaker 1: are just not fighting for their rights to be able
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Speaker 1: to speak and be recognized, and it's still a big
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Speaker 1: deal when they lead a major corporation, like, Okay, you
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Speaker 1: know the thing about me that bothers me is that?
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Speaker 1: Why is it that we think I'm talking about in
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Speaker 1: society in general, women are physically adored but mentally challenged. Yep,
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Speaker 1: And that's we And let's go back to the sixties
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Speaker 1: in nineteen three. But equal pay a path, So why
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Speaker 1: we're still not getting the same equal path? Right? So
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Speaker 1: that's an issue. More and more women are having to
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Speaker 1: be in more moms, more and more women are having
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Speaker 1: to lead corporations, More and more women are becoming honestute
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Speaker 1: more because of the lack of fathers. And not by
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Speaker 1: fourth I mean not by not by um, they're not
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Speaker 1: being fathers. Not all men are not lacking father father
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Speaker 1: their father duties because of their personality. A lot of
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Speaker 1: away from their household from the household and creating family.
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Speaker 1: So a lot of women are single moms, okay, and
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Speaker 1: so now they are less too be mom and dead.
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Speaker 1: So if that's the case, imagine she goes on to
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Speaker 1: you know, theoretically quote unquote a man is supposed to
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Speaker 1: do theoretically, because I don't believe in that anymore, either
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Speaker 1: color restrictions of color discrimination. So you're already knocked down there.
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Speaker 1: You're already gonna get knocked down there because women have
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Speaker 1: got to fight that they're equal for equal pay, equal physicality.
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Speaker 1: I can do the same job you can do. Yes,
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Speaker 1: there are some things that there are some boxes I
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Speaker 1: let's understand that the parameters are making things equal are
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Speaker 1: available today. Now. The thing about her is that when
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Speaker 1: issue that a lot of women today deal with body image,
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Speaker 1: What's what's what's acceptable, What's what's how should I look
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Speaker 1: when I woke up in the morning. Should I be
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Speaker 1: jumping on the scale on the daily basis? Should I
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Speaker 1: be worried about how my clothes fit me? Should I
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Speaker 1: be what's my wardrobe? What? What what men like me?
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Speaker 1: If I'm a side swell versus a size six with
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Speaker 1: men like me? If I'm wearing charge skurts or pants
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Speaker 1: with men like me, if I if I if I
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Speaker 1: am light skinning the dark, skinning, my hair straight up,
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Speaker 1: my hair is curly. That's what images that we play
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Speaker 1: out every day in our community, whether you white, black, Latino,
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Speaker 1: but more important that we're talking about black right now
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that I lived that every day.
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Speaker 1: I've lived it all my life. So Lenda Johnson has
20:45
Speaker 1: lived that all the life. She writes about it in
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Speaker 1: the book. She's very athletic. When she was growing up,
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Speaker 1: she was a little bit, as she says, big for
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Speaker 1: her size, so people treated are different. And because she
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Speaker 1: wore a certain type of clothes she was she was
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Speaker 1: reprimanded for that because people thought she was trying to
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Speaker 1: be too much more than her age should allow her
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Speaker 1: to be. So let's talk about that part of how
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Speaker 1: you're your body image affected you as an adolescents all
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Speaker 1: the way through your music career as well as today
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Speaker 1: where you're now a fitness competitor. I am five ten,
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Speaker 1: so already five ten is the height of most the
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Speaker 1: average man, you know, and you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: five things maybe been five ten and six two is
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Speaker 1: an average man. So you're already coming in. You already
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Speaker 1: challenging my space right now. You're challenging my space right now,
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Speaker 1: are having I'm already but I like to look the
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Speaker 1: six feet and over. I'm a okay so mostly and
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Speaker 1: that that short man complex. Man do not care. But
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Speaker 1: here's the a that I want to say about body
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Speaker 1: and it and you know, women with the whole um,
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Speaker 1: the whole philosophy of if I'm besides too, I can't
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Speaker 1: get a man, if I'm as fear, if I can't
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Speaker 1: get an you know that whole thing. I think that
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Speaker 1: that has now become a woman woman problem. That is
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Speaker 1: not now. Yeah, man, my men may have started it
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Speaker 1: back in the day, but I think that women have
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Speaker 1: taken it on to become a bigger problem. I think
22:27
Speaker 1: that women don't know what a man wants anymore. And
22:31
Speaker 1: I think you're guessing because and this is my opinion,
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Speaker 1: and you tell me, correct me if I'm on. I
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Speaker 1: don't think the men are running around on a day
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Speaker 1: to day basis looking for a certain look in certain side.
22:43
Speaker 1: I don't think all men are doing that. I think
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Speaker 1: most of the time men you the woman that believes
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Speaker 1: in them. I think that's the number one thing for
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Speaker 1: a man. Do you believe in me? Can I depend
22:53
Speaker 1: on you? Yeah? Men are visually attracted, of course there
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Speaker 1: you know that, just the type of beings they are,
23:01
Speaker 1: so you have to be usually attractive to him. But
23:04
Speaker 1: that's women too. You have these visually attracted to me
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Speaker 1: as well, not as much as a man, because we
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Speaker 1: like powers, be like flags. So you don't have to
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Speaker 1: be the finest man on the street. But if you're
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Speaker 1: successful and you're a fighter, and you look like you
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Speaker 1: can take care of your family and all of that,
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Speaker 1: and are dependable and loyal, we like those concepts. I
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Speaker 1: think that women have driven themselves in saying by the
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Speaker 1: type of behind the imagery that has been put out
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Speaker 1: there by society and puts the media. That is what
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Speaker 1: has driven the the the ideology of that we have
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Speaker 1: to be this certain size and certain way to get
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Speaker 1: a man. I have beautiful friends who have amazing bodies,
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Speaker 1: who are smart and capable for a single let me
23:49
Speaker 1: say that again, tons of them or this I'm talking
23:52
Speaker 1: about models, model like or single and and most of
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Speaker 1: the reasons for that is because they're independent. And some
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Speaker 1: of some men out here, um are they shot away
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Speaker 1: some independence because that independence is normally passive with the
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Speaker 1: process of I don't leave no man when no man
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Speaker 1: wants to be with a woman that feels that he
24:14
Speaker 1: doesn't need he's not needed by her. And and that's
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Speaker 1: just the truth. That's why I laughed, That's where I laughed.
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Speaker 1: It's part of it's part of this man who feel leading.
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Speaker 1: He wants to know that I am successful in taking
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Speaker 1: care if I have the goods to take care of women.
24:31
Speaker 1: I want to know that I can take care of
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Speaker 1: unless you's a free cystem of it, and that she
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Speaker 1: can take care of me in returns. And a lot
24:37
Speaker 1: of women are not submissive enough. Um. And I'm not
24:41
Speaker 1: saying they have to be walking around their head jail down,
24:43
Speaker 1: but they have to be able to submit in a
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Speaker 1: way to their man. That um that lends to a
24:50
Speaker 1: face for them to work together. Meaning if a woman
24:53
Speaker 1: is in a is in a situation where a man
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Speaker 1: is leading, let me leave and don't try to step
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Speaker 1: in all the time. You know what I'm saying. So
25:01
Speaker 1: some women are not. Some independent women have the era
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Speaker 1: of I have been doing it so long, I don't
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Speaker 1: need you to come in and help me. So now
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Speaker 1: they're used to doing it so long as by themselves
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Speaker 1: that it's harder for them to let down the regards
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Speaker 1: to have to allow a man to come in and
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Speaker 1: love on them and take over, because it's not it's
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Speaker 1: not about their side and look anymore. It's more to
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Speaker 1: about attitude. Let me let me comment on that, because
25:25
Speaker 1: first of all, I agree with everything you're saying. Okay.
25:28
Speaker 1: Is the reason I say that, because because of the
25:30
Speaker 1: fact that the problem starts in the very beginning. It's
25:33
Speaker 1: called communication. Make sure that person is looking at you
25:37
Speaker 1: because you look good to them. It's gonna communicate with
25:41
Speaker 1: you the way you want to be communicated with. Okay. Now,
25:44
Speaker 1: if you start your relationship and it's physical, I swear
25:48
Speaker 1: to you, it's gonna end bad or it's not gonna
25:50
Speaker 1: end the way you wanted to end of a relationship
25:53
Speaker 1: that is physical in the beginning, You've lost, You've lost
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Speaker 1: the whole. What I want to do with my life,
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Speaker 1: what I'm looking for in a man long term? What
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Speaker 1: I why? I think all that has been thrown away.
26:06
Speaker 1: So so if you, if you drive your relationships and
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Speaker 1: tied to sex, got a problem. Now with that being said,
26:14
Speaker 1: I always tell people that you know, I'm attracted to
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Speaker 1: women who tell me they have goals, tell me they
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Speaker 1: have dreams that that are thinkers I really have. If you,
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Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you can compete with me mentally,
26:30
Speaker 1: then I'm I'm excited. This is true Sean McDonald talking
26:33
Speaker 1: because I always like to I always like to wake
26:35
Speaker 1: up and have a different conversation. And like I told
26:37
Speaker 1: tell people, I always like to learn some things. I
26:39
Speaker 1: like to learn some things from my partner. I like
26:41
Speaker 1: to be challenged by my partner and information. And that's
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Speaker 1: all you're saying right now, That's all you're saying. But
26:46
Speaker 1: also as a man, I have to feel a physical
26:50
Speaker 1: role in the relationship. And you know that means that
26:53
Speaker 1: if it's dark, I go and answer the door, I
26:56
Speaker 1: hear north, I get up and listen to the north.
26:58
Speaker 1: I can't tell my wife, hey, baby is a side
27:01
Speaker 1: whyn't you go look and look at it and find
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Speaker 1: out what's going on. Now we've already changed, the rules
27:07
Speaker 1: have been changed. You know, there are certain things from
27:10
Speaker 1: a from a physical from a from a physical characteristics,
27:14
Speaker 1: you have to maintain security. But from a standpoint of women,
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Speaker 1: listen to me and listen to Selena, all we're saying
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Speaker 1: is this, you have to have standards. You have to say. Look,
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Speaker 1: it's not about the image all the time. It's about
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Speaker 1: what I want. If a man does not, in that
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Speaker 1: openest statement, deliver information to you that you want to
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Speaker 1: hear about you other than your looks, you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: a problem. You're going to have a problem. I swear
27:44
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have a problem. And it's not gonna
27:46
Speaker 1: end good. That's all you're saying, and that's all you
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Speaker 1: said say in your book the way it's over Look,
27:51
Speaker 1: I've been having body image problems since I was at Listens,
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Speaker 1: and they've carried all through our music career. Then I
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Speaker 1: realized it's bigger than that. It ain't so about the image.
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Speaker 1: It's about how we think and how we allow people
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Speaker 1: to bring that bad thoughts into our lives. They're bad
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Speaker 1: standards into our lives, and we don't challenge them as women.
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Speaker 1: That's all you're saying. Yeah, I said, it's all in
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Speaker 1: the mind. Starts all in the mind, and when you
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Speaker 1: change the thing, can you change your whole life. Let's
28:21
Speaker 1: talk about this fitness competition of this brand. You know,
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Speaker 1: I always knew you had the fitness line, the fitness
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Speaker 1: concept of Finnish branding, but what what what got you
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Speaker 1: into the competitive state of fitness. I've always wanted to compete.
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Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't until um I turned you know,
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Speaker 1: reported too, and said, you know, how long are you
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Speaker 1: going to put this off? How long are you gonna
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Speaker 1: set this aside? How long are you going to keep
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Speaker 1: um uh, convincing yourself that you can't do it? And
28:54
Speaker 1: the truth is, it's a burning sensation. It's something that
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Speaker 1: you've been wanting to do. I've been one need to
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Speaker 1: do it since I was twenty years old, and I
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Speaker 1: just never thought I had the time. I never thought
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Speaker 1: I had the discipline, and I wanted to see if
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Speaker 1: if that was the truth. And so I said, you
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Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna just tried. I mean the reason
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Speaker 1: why I'm able to trappings and the reason why I
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Speaker 1: accomplished a lot of stuff in my life, even if
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Speaker 1: certain things I can't control. But I accomplished my goals,
29:25
Speaker 1: like little goals here and there, because I tried. You know,
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Speaker 1: I just tried now, and I'm also not afraid to
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Speaker 1: say it. I'm not afraid to say it. I don't
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Speaker 1: like failure, but I can't be afraid to sail. If
29:40
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call. But I've already be failure once. I tried.
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Speaker 1: So just so happy that when I tried, you know,
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Speaker 1: I usually make it, and so this time I tried.
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Speaker 1: It took me, you know a long time, because I
29:53
Speaker 1: want to injuries and things of that nation. Of course,
29:55
Speaker 1: the devil doesn't want you to get the way you
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Speaker 1: need to go, but you you have when you work it.
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Speaker 1: Now that that's what time it is. That the enemy
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Speaker 1: is always you know, he's speaking to devour at all
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Speaker 1: at all at all areas. Then you can you can pray,
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Speaker 1: you can play fall a certain points. So I just said,
30:13
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get
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Speaker 1: a professional all the tools I needed. It was very
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Speaker 1: difficult it was costly, but it was it was rewarding.
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Speaker 1: My life has changed forever. I am now a fitness competitor.
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Speaker 1: I'm training for my next competition. Obviously it was pushed
30:29
Speaker 1: because it is still be the um you know, pandemic. Yeah,
30:35
Speaker 1: but um the new day is August twenty nine. But
30:38
Speaker 1: that's got it. Why have more times to profess the
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Speaker 1: body that I want? So I just have to keep working,
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Speaker 1: keep art. And it's always fun because I already love fitness.
30:47
Speaker 1: I'm already into it. There's something I do every day,
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Speaker 1: do anyway, and it it fulfills that competitive is that
30:53
Speaker 1: already lives in me and I'm not able to fulfill
30:55
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. And you don't compete
30:58
Speaker 1: against others. You're competing againsto else, which is super fun
31:01
Speaker 1: and in a deal character and teaches you so much
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Speaker 1: about yourself, you know. I I really being that you're
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Speaker 1: a former athlete, basketball star, tennant star from high school.
31:11
Speaker 1: And I always tell people sometimes you have to look
31:13
Speaker 1: in your past to plan your greatness. And being a
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Speaker 1: young athlete, you just replicating that as a fitness competitor
31:21
Speaker 1: now and so you're not you're not doing anything that
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Speaker 1: was strange. You just heard, you just finally committed to
31:28
Speaker 1: the voice that you always was hearing in your head.
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Speaker 1: Do it, dude. I don't have time. I'm too busy,
31:34
Speaker 1: I'm dating man, I'm moving to another city, I'm on
31:39
Speaker 1: the road. But the voice always said, You've always been
31:42
Speaker 1: an athlete. You always just always drove you. And I
31:45
Speaker 1: think it's important that you remind people this is part
31:48
Speaker 1: of your story so people won't think it's a fad
31:50
Speaker 1: of think it's something that you just thought, you just
31:52
Speaker 1: do because you just was wanted to do it. Because
31:55
Speaker 1: us Selena Jones, you do anything you want. It's not
31:58
Speaker 1: a bucket it's not a bucket list like it's an
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Speaker 1: actual things that I've been wanting to do. Yes, it's
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Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, it's hello somebody you know. And I'm
32:13
Speaker 1: so glad you said that because a lot of times
32:16
Speaker 1: when celebrities do something or it's because I'm a I'm
32:20
Speaker 1: a singer. If I do something that's outside of singing,
32:23
Speaker 1: then that's just on the side. It's to be able
32:28
Speaker 1: to do three things and be grade at all of them.
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Speaker 1: Love it, you believe in themselves. Most people are wanted
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Speaker 1: to mention on they don't believe that they can be
32:38
Speaker 1: more than one thing. Well, Celena, you know I'm a fan.
32:40
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we took the time to get together
32:43
Speaker 1: again to talk about the single woman, to talk about you,
32:46
Speaker 1: your evolution as a not only as a as a
32:49
Speaker 1: physical presence, but a motivational force, because that's what you are.
32:52
Speaker 1: You can see her on a daily basis of Sister Circle,
32:55
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32:57
Speaker 1: one of the co hosts. Yes, she is foote and
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Speaker 1: I've stood next to and within while I'm standing next
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Speaker 1: to a woman. That's all. That's all I say. When
33:04
Speaker 1: I stood next to where I did show, I'm standing
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Speaker 1: next to a real woman. And the fact that your
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Speaker 1: single is called woman, I feel blessed because I saw one,
33:12
Speaker 1: I met one, and you are one. Selena, stay strong, Okay,
33:15
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you so much, you too, and be
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Speaker 1: safe in this the times, safe and blessed. Appreciate you. Hi.
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