Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Rushion interviews Attorney and Real Estate Developer Diana Lynch. She handles sports, entertainment, business law, and family law cases involving divorce, child custody, child support, and property division, and we will discuss her historic 1000-acre golf resort purchase in the Dominican Republic and the Legendary R&B singer WILL DOWNING. He has released a new single, "Till We Meet Again." According to Will Downing, the song was inspired when he lost his daughter to suicide in January of this

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Rushion interviews Attorney and Real Estate Developer Diana Lynch. She handles sports, entertainment, business law, and family law cases involving divorce, child custody, child support, and property division, and we will discuss her historic 1000-acre golf resort purchase in the Dominican Republic and the Legendary R&B singer WILL DOWNING. He has released a new single, "Till We Meet Again." According to Will Downing, the song was inspired when he lost his daughter to suicide in January of this · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: One is a real estate developer. My first guest, listen
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  Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure people have told her this was
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  Speaker 1: not going to happen in a lifetime. My first guest
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  Speaker 1: has purchased nearly one thousand acres in the Dominican Republic
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  Speaker 1: for a golf result. Not in Georgia, not in Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: not Mississippi, Dominican Republic. These are American dreamers. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: My first guest is an attorney real estate developer, Diana Lynch.
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  Speaker 1: Attorney Lynch focused on her practice on family, sports, entertainment,
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  Speaker 1: and business law. She has over two decades worth of
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  Speaker 1: litigation experience and family law and holds a license in
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  Speaker 1: mediation and arbitration. There was a difference. I'm gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: her what it's the difference between mediation and arbitration cases
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  Speaker 1: involving divorce, child custody, child support, property division all part
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  Speaker 1: of her specialization. We know there's a half of America
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  Speaker 1: gets married, turns around, gets a divorce. Possessing the right
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  Speaker 1: range of legal knowledge. She has also handled personal injury
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  Speaker 1: and other general civil litigation matters as a real estate developer.
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  Speaker 1: We will discuss her historic purchase. I said it earlier
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  Speaker 1: of nearly one thousand acres in the Dominican Republic for
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  Speaker 1: a golf result, but gets the text us up. This
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  Speaker 1: is what she really on the show. A primary purpose
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  Speaker 1: isn't just acquiring wealth for herself. It's inspiring the black
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  Speaker 1: community to take on more ownership. Please work with the
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  Speaker 1: money making conversation Mastercline, Attorney Diana Lynch, How you doing, Hi?
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  Speaker 4: How are you? Thanks for having me?
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  Speaker 5: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Did I get you fired up? Attorney Lynch? Don't get
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  Speaker 1: you fired up?
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  Speaker 5: You got me.
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  Speaker 4: You got me fired up. I tell you, I just
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  Speaker 4: love it when people tell us that we could do
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  Speaker 4: things differently. We can live life differently, we could do
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  Speaker 4: things differently when I other than when our parents told us.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you start with where I began, you
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  Speaker 4: would I wouldn't even expect that I would be here,
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  Speaker 4: especially what everybody tells you. And I tell the gentleman
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  Speaker 4: I mentor. I mentor a group of gentlemen. I said,
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  Speaker 4: we'd never take no for an answer, And so that's
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  Speaker 4: one of the things I said, unless it's a woman,
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  Speaker 4: then even a maybe, it's a no. And you'll see
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  Speaker 4: the thousands of people that I touch and the fifty
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  Speaker 4: or more that I put through school in my nonprofit.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they'll know when they when I meet them
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  Speaker 4: and I see them on the street, I said, do
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  Speaker 4: we take no for an answer? They say no, unless
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  Speaker 4: it's a lady, and then even a maybe it's a no.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what I I tell them.
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  Speaker 1: We turned to Lynch, you know, the first time we've spoken,
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  Speaker 1: and I was reading this press release because I always
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  Speaker 1: try to read and understand the persons, because I get
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  Speaker 1: information that the interview is about, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get to that if because what we're but I also
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  Speaker 1: want to know. When I was reading this press release,
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  Speaker 1: it said primary purpose isn't just acquiring wealth for herself.
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  Speaker 1: It's inspiring the black community to take on more ownership.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly you saying that, Well, the.
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  Speaker 4: Thing is, as a child, I grew up in Brooklyn,
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  Speaker 4: New York, in a pretty urban environment. One of the
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  Speaker 4: things we always aspired to do and was taught to
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  Speaker 4: do this to own the land, all right, nor because
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  Speaker 4: when you own the land, it comes with it quite
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  Speaker 4: a bit of one responsibility, opportunity. Legacy. Land historically does
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  Speaker 4: not lose value in the stock market as investment stock market.
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  Speaker 4: I was told to put money in the stock market
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  Speaker 4: and do various other things, and I have historically, after
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  Speaker 4: Niles and various other times, lost a lot of money
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  Speaker 4: in the stock market. And what my financial advisor will
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  Speaker 4: tell me is just stay in it. It's gonna come back.
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  Speaker 4: And just as it comes back, we got Ukraine and
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  Speaker 4: Russia fighting and all the way around the world. And
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  Speaker 4: now we you know, our president might say so, our
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  Speaker 4: former president may touch something our line, and then our
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  Speaker 4: stock market, our stocks go down. So so many other
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  Speaker 4: things affect our portfolio other than what we can tangibly do.
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  Speaker 4: What can if it makes you feel helpless, And one
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  Speaker 4: of the things that owning land does, you can make
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  Speaker 4: strategic decisions based on market forces, appreciation and land land appreciates,
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  Speaker 4: and even in both markets and various other things, they
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  Speaker 4: tell you invest in land. Many you follow the money
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  Speaker 4: where where are the others investing their money? And as
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  Speaker 4: a young adult entering the legal profession, right after losing
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  Speaker 4: quite a bit in the stock market, I said, well work,
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  Speaker 4: I need to. I made the decision. Wasn't popular to
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  Speaker 4: pull my money out, and I needed to put it
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  Speaker 4: somewhere because I needed to work for myself as a lawyer.
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  Speaker 4: The fortunate and unfortunate thing is that you get paid
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  Speaker 4: when you when you work buillable hours. However, I wanted
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  Speaker 4: something that was passive where I would be making money
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  Speaker 4: even when I was not there, and real estate was
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  Speaker 4: the answer for me. So I started investing in properties
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  Speaker 4: around university campuses, various other things, so I get a
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  Speaker 4: premium on my rental income. I looked at where the
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  Speaker 4: trajectory was. I didn't want to just invest in markets
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  Speaker 4: where it had already reached the peak of performance. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: I told a story on another popular talk show recently,
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  Speaker 4: and I said, I was in a meeting with brand
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  Speaker 4: brand manager hotel operator because we're at that stage where
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  Speaker 4: we have made some decisions with partnerships with major brands,
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  Speaker 4: our hotel brands. And I was at the meeting and
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  Speaker 4: I was the only one that looked like me at
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  Speaker 4: that meeting, and I was told he said, many of
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  Speaker 4: us don't want to drink the water until it was cold.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't understand what he meant, because you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know how we do. We said, expound on that,
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  Speaker 4: and I allow him to do just that, right, because
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  Speaker 4: sometimes it's better to be quiet and learned and to
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  Speaker 4: talk and let people know what you are.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So he simply said, we don't want to come to
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  Speaker 4: something until is shiny on to the water's cool, until
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  Speaker 4: after it's been developed and it's come out of the ground.
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  Speaker 4: And unfortunately, we are not often as a people, the
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  Speaker 4: culture at the table when these opportunities happen. So while
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  Speaker 4: we whiley, while they may say we don't want to,
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  Speaker 4: it's because a lot of times we have not been
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  Speaker 4: afforded the opportunity to come to And I can give
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  Speaker 4: you many differentations.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're absolutely telling the truth. You know you
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  Speaker 1: know and I understand exactly what he's talking about. We
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  Speaker 1: always come back once the buildings built, not understanding you
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  Speaker 1: could have bought the land before the building was built.
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  Speaker 1: And we look at we drive through these neighborhood especially
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  Speaker 1: our neighborhoods that are run down, not knowing that. I
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  Speaker 1: have a very successful brother in law in Houston, and
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  Speaker 1: he would go into our neighborhoods and he will see
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  Speaker 1: run down houses and he'll go to a block. And
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  Speaker 1: the city is all about any city, it's any city
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  Speaker 1: in the country. They're about trying to raise tax dollars.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're going to tell them that you're going
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  Speaker 1: to tear down all these houses on this block, which
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  Speaker 1: means you can get them, you can get these home
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  Speaker 1: penny on a dollar now, okay, because people living in
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  Speaker 1: them really aren't in a position to be able to
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  Speaker 1: argue the price when you offer it to them. And
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  Speaker 1: then the city will offer you concessions. Then you build
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  Speaker 1: that neighborhood back up, and all of a sudden, that
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  Speaker 1: means that other people are getting get moved out?
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  Speaker 4: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Because then all of a sudden we have our local
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  Speaker 1: politicians arguing that we've moved our black community, we disenfranchising people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, gentrification are when that happens? Are we victims? Are?
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  Speaker 1: We're just not aware. I'm talking about the black community.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think we're missing at the opportunity right so,
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  Speaker 4: and I know exactly what you mean. I have a
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  Speaker 4: property downtown Atlanta was on the first I was the
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  Speaker 4: only law firm in Mechanics Fille sub community in downtown Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: the closest community to the Capital of prime property right
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  Speaker 4: but it had been underdeveloped. It's often been the place
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  Speaker 4: where they placed a lot of Section AID in low
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  Speaker 4: income housing, and it was I made the decision that
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  Speaker 4: that was an opportunity for me to move my law
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  Speaker 4: practice there. Now I represent a lot of high end
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  Speaker 4: entertainers and clients. And they frowned upon it because I
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  Speaker 4: left Atlantic Station, which is a thriving area, paying eight
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  Speaker 4: thousand dollars a month for someone else to benefit financially,
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  Speaker 4: and I said, I need to get somewhere where I
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  Speaker 4: can own so when I pay that bill, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to benefit me in the long run. And what I did.
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  Speaker 4: I acquired one property, and then another, and then another,
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  Speaker 4: and after a while I was sitting on a city block.
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  Speaker 4: And right now we're developing what is called Signature Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: which is one of the They called us the unicorn
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  Speaker 4: and the real estate digests in downtown Atlanta because we're
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  Speaker 4: one of a kind. We'll be a five story mixed
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  Speaker 4: use community where you have your commercial space at the
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  Speaker 4: bottom rooftop terraces. Now, that was a property in an
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  Speaker 4: area that had been underserved and not everything's coming to us.
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  Speaker 4: The belt line, the bike bike relayed all the things
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  Speaker 4: that are coming, and we had I was there before
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  Speaker 4: it got before the water got cold. And that's how
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  Speaker 4: it's been absolute.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you some doctor Lynch. When I when
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  Speaker 1: I I turned to Lynch, you, I apologize. I turned
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  Speaker 1: Lynch when I when I hear you, I hear all
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  Speaker 1: this confidence. You know you, I mean you one after one,
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  Speaker 1: one sentence after the next, follows follows follows. Because you
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  Speaker 1: you you understand who you are. You understand your brand,
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  Speaker 1: because you have a brand. How did how did that
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  Speaker 1: journey get you there?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: What? What? What? Who mentored you? Who told you that
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  Speaker 1: could it could happen? And when you went, when they
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  Speaker 1: said ready to say go, you were ready to go?
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  Speaker 4: You know what? Ideally, you know, I've had many mentors,
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  Speaker 4: my friends I've had. I have a unique group of
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  Speaker 4: friends who, like myself, came from nothing, and we just
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  Speaker 4: we aspire to want something for ourselves. And much of
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  Speaker 4: my motivation is to want differently for my family. I
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  Speaker 4: don't even want it for myself. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 4: make sure that I would be in a position to
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  Speaker 4: better my family's human condition. And that's what that legacy
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  Speaker 4: we talk about. And so while I don't have children,
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  Speaker 4: I've raised many, And while you know, while I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have anything in the beginning, I was determined that each
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  Speaker 4: day I was going to try to find something to
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  Speaker 4: better my human condition. And so I saw out people
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  Speaker 4: who were doing things that I wanted to do. If
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  Speaker 4: you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the
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  Speaker 4: wrong room. And so you definitely need to make sure
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: you're around people who can can educate you and inspire
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  Speaker 4: you and support you, and so not just even for
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  Speaker 4: my financial respective and support you morally and socially and religiously.
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  Speaker 4: And so I've been blessed to have a group of
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  Speaker 4: people who travel with me since college at university to
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  Speaker 4: you know, just being in Atlanta. Were still my barbecue class.
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  Speaker 4: We still hang out together and we are just We're
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  Speaker 4: just a group of people who want to be better
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  Speaker 4: and we know what we aspired to. So while I
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  Speaker 4: didn't have anybody, and I want people to understand, while
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  Speaker 4: it hasn't been done in your family before, that should
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  Speaker 4: even motivate you even more to be a trail based brolizer,
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  Speaker 4: be the unicorn in your family. I call myself the
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  Speaker 4: unicorn because it's it represents strength and purity and want
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  Speaker 4: of a kind uniqueness, and those are the kinds of
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  Speaker 4: things that I strive to be. Is a trailblazer. Anic
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  Speaker 4: doesn't dictate my Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to jump through this. This my girl, I'm
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  Speaker 1: about I'm about to.
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  Speaker 5: Dive on in. I'm in.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in your fan club. I'm into the Attorney LEDs
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  Speaker 1: fan club because of the fact that you know, I
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  Speaker 1: just love and enjoy people who come on my show
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  Speaker 1: who just when you know when you get near them,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: you're near a unique thinking person, a very unique thinking
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  Speaker 1: person who has values and courageous And when people have
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  Speaker 1: told you no, like you said at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: this you no, maybe no, But I guess what, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to turn me around and have and
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  Speaker 1: bring tears to my eyes. It's gonna tell me I
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  Speaker 1: got to take it from a different angle to get
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  Speaker 1: the yes I'm trying to achieve out of his relationship fear.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about fear before I go to the break.
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  Speaker 1: How did you overcome fear in dealing with every day? Knows?
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 4: You know I encounter fear every day. You know, things
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  Speaker 4: that are new to me, and I always believe in transparency.
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  Speaker 4: Let's be real. You're gonna see things and encounter things
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  Speaker 4: that you haven't experienced before. So that's going to create
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of anxiety for you. But you got
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  Speaker 4: to know that God is to give you the spirit
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  Speaker 4: of fear. So you have to understand that whatever he
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  Speaker 4: brings you to, he'll bring you through. And so while
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  Speaker 4: that door may close, that's because He has a better
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  Speaker 4: one for you. And that's what happened repeatedly as we
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  Speaker 4: developed our resort in Dominican Republic. We we did not
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  Speaker 4: stop at the fact that we're the only African American
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  Speaker 4: development firm that was down there developing. We did not
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  Speaker 4: try to just do, oh we can we can together
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  Speaker 4: do four houses and just build it and sit on
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  Speaker 4: it for ourselves. We wanted to make sure that we
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  Speaker 4: create something so when we have our conferences and our
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  Speaker 4: mansor's venue, we don't have to go someplace where we're
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  Speaker 4: only welcomed the months out of the year and leave
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  Speaker 4: thousands of dollars. We can actually benefit from the fact
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  Speaker 4: that we actually can acquire something. We can build a
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  Speaker 4: legacy for our families. We can have our conferences and conventions.
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  Speaker 4: We can we create a mansor's vineyard on our own
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  Speaker 4: land and land that was settled by.
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  Speaker 1: Apples and by laws. I was not mistaken when I said,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Lynch, she's peddling that medicine, that medicine of inspiration,
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  Speaker 1: that medicine of motivation. She's attorney by law, but she's
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  Speaker 1: a medicine. She's a healer, she's a motivator.
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  Speaker 7: You are now tuned into the money making conversations. Minute
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  Speaker 7: of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: Tmauri to start our family Reunion recall spending years being
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  Speaker 8: doctor was like, Yo, Tia, there's nothing I can do.
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  Speaker 1: even wrap my head remotely around somebody who can go
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  Speaker 1: to another country and buy one thousand acres in a
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  Speaker 1: country as the Dominican Public Republic, where I have her
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  Speaker 1: on the phone and we und discuss that in this
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you again for the opportunity to speak to
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  Speaker 4: your audiences. Because when I want to do more than
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  Speaker 4: anything is inspire ourselves get out of our own way. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: many people say I've been taught buy your home, develop equity,
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  Speaker 4: pay it off right. That is just not a good
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  Speaker 4: financial strategy when you're talking about you know, you have
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  Speaker 4: a million, two hundred, especially in this market, thousands of
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  Speaker 4: dollars in your home. But you then when you need money,
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  Speaker 4: you leverage commercial debt where interest rates are higher, et cetera. Certainly,
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  Speaker 4: don't overprice yourself. Get get there. There is a way
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  Speaker 4: to attach equity that you have in your home, and
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  Speaker 4: oh so many other ways where you say, well, look
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  Speaker 4: I just got a home. I don't have the ability
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  Speaker 4: to buy abroad and do all this, but you do
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  Speaker 4: because you have the ability.
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  Speaker 9: One.
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  Speaker 4: You may have equity in your home. You may have
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  Speaker 4: assets that are underperforming in the stock market. You may
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  Speaker 4: have a family or people say family are off, but
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  Speaker 4: we all have familys. We have families. We can get
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  Speaker 4: together to take a trip or spend ten thousand dollars
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  Speaker 4: in Marths Vinyard, or to get together to get a
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  Speaker 4: boy's trip, but we don't have ten thousand dollars to
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  Speaker 4: pool together to collectively purchase our locks. Initially started at
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  Speaker 4: fifty thousand, they're now one hundred and seventy thousand and
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  Speaker 4: a half acre. If someone had gotten in there, they
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  Speaker 4: could have taken he and his boys and gotten a
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  Speaker 4: lot and then have an opportunity to either flip that
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  Speaker 4: at some point and make appreciate well above what the
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  Speaker 4: market's doing, or to hold and have an opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: build and build a short term rental income where if
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  Speaker 4: you're talking about a short term airbnb is the binnacular
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  Speaker 4: term for it, but it's short term rental. If you
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  Speaker 4: have that in downtown Atlanta or in some places, yes
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  Speaker 4: you make one hundred dollars a night. But what happens
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  Speaker 4: if you have that same property in the Dominican Republic Insamana,
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  Speaker 4: which is known for it being the Martians Vineyard of
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  Speaker 4: the dr this area that's we preserved and reserved for
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  Speaker 4: us lad with beautiful waterfalls and beaches and various other thing.
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  Speaker 4: What how much you think you can get that for?
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  Speaker 4: And then when you see a resort that has an
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  Speaker 4: eighteen hole golf course that has an opportunity to have
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  Speaker 4: an amphitheat or sports facility all that. How much you
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  Speaker 4: think you're going to get for that a month and
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  Speaker 4: can I'm perhaps lease that out enough so that I
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  Speaker 4: can be able to have it pay for itself, pull
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  Speaker 4: out a week or two when I want a vacation
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  Speaker 4: with my family, but still have it to create generational wealth.
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  Speaker 4: That's the formula, because you can get in low enough
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  Speaker 4: and we still have opportunities not only to buy, but
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  Speaker 4: for investment opportunities. Because as you indicate it, yes, we've
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  Speaker 4: taken down quite a bit of property on the contract
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  Speaker 4: with and purchased various acres of land, but there's so
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  Speaker 4: many other key parcels that with the right partnerships, we
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  Speaker 4: can take down that whole region. And so what we
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  Speaker 4: are doing is being purposeful. The land was originally settled
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  Speaker 4: by emancipated Americans in eighteen twenty four that settled there.
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  Speaker 4: The Dominican government has been very receptive of having us there,
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  Speaker 4: and even those individuals that sold this to the land,
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  Speaker 4: they said they were approached by other groups Canadians, are Europeans,
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  Speaker 4: various other things, and they did not sell to them.
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  Speaker 4: They said when they when my kind of parts sat
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  Speaker 4: at the table, they said, we've been waiting for you,
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  Speaker 4: and they wanted to sell to America. There is a
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  Speaker 4: connection between that community. They're educated there many one of
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  Speaker 4: them is a judge in King's County, New York and
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  Speaker 4: where I'm from, and so those original descendants of this land,
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  Speaker 4: so where they believe in education and so many other things.
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  Speaker 4: We need to invest our dollars where they want our
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  Speaker 4: dollars and where we can grow and build generation away.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's really important people hear this because it's
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  Speaker 1: so difficult the not only just purchase landing in the
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  Speaker 1: United States, but when you go to another country, it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: even more difficult. Can you walk through some of the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: steps that you have to go through, the considered and
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  Speaker 1: some of the paperwork, not to revealing the whole process,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: but I just want people to wrap there. You know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you know, you get you get angry upset when you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: see this big, old, thick piece of clothes eyed paperwork
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  Speaker 1: that you got to say, you just signing papers and
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  Speaker 1: you know why you sign it, but you just try
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  Speaker 1: to get that home. It had to be really mind
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  Speaker 1: boggling to go into the Dominican Republic. And I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure your acres just kind of grew. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: started this parcel and then another opportunity is being offered.
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  Speaker 1: Did you start out nearly a thousand acres or you
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  Speaker 1: started with a small amount and you start building.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely not. We originally had a kind of part that
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  Speaker 4: had been building forty two condominiums. They still have those.
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  Speaker 4: They've sold out half of that condominium complex. So they
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  Speaker 4: originally started there. They introduced us to this particular expanded
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  Speaker 4: land because our kind of parts wanted a golf course.
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  Speaker 4: They said, look, we need a golf course, and it's
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  Speaker 4: not a golf course over here. And because of that,
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  Speaker 4: what you would instinctively say is, look, that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: a reach, right, we just want these forty two condoms,
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  Speaker 4: right righty. But what you have to do, you can't
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  Speaker 4: talk yourself out of something, right because what God has
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  Speaker 4: for you is for you. And what we were able
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  Speaker 4: to do is leverage the relationships that we have. We
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  Speaker 4: want to make sure you have appropriate legal counsel on
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  Speaker 4: the ground. Don't start doing the underhand and I got
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  Speaker 4: to pay play. That's not really has that's not how
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  Speaker 4: it has to be done. Do it right. Make sure
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  Speaker 4: you have permits. We have permits.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't.
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  Speaker 4: We certainly could have built quickly and sold without permits
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  Speaker 4: and done our sold with before we even started building.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't do that. We're doing it the right way.
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  Speaker 4: Our American developers who are familiar with developing in the
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  Speaker 4: US and some of my counter process are familiar with
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  Speaker 4: developing throughout the world. But what we also did is
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  Speaker 4: we leveraged the relationships of experts right because you know,
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  Speaker 4: we got to bring back excellence because we as a
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  Speaker 4: people expect that of ourselves. We're real skeptical of our
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  Speaker 4: own unfortunately and regrettably, and that also gets in our way.
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  Speaker 4: But that's another conversation. But what we did is we
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  Speaker 4: leverage experts who have done it before, who have had
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  Speaker 4: forty fifty years of resort development. In Lakala, Fiji, our
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  Speaker 4: design team has developed Red Bull Island for the owner
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  Speaker 4: of Red Bull. I mean they have five star properties
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  Speaker 4: under the FLU. You get those people, you make sure
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  Speaker 4: you get the right team. You make sure you have
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  Speaker 4: appropriate legal counselor. For everything we had in DR we
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  Speaker 4: had in the US. So if we had a tax
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  Speaker 4: advisor in DR, we had a taxivisors or in the US,
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  Speaker 4: we had a civil engineer in the DR we had
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  Speaker 4: our civil induineers in the US, and then you have
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  Speaker 4: them to match up with each other. Make sure the
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  Speaker 4: standards are that of what we expect as Americans as
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  Speaker 4: far as the build and you want, you make sure
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  Speaker 4: that you have you don't rush you know the people.
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  Speaker 4: That's the thing that I think benefited us, these people
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  Speaker 4: who have have worked with us. I've been a lawyer
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  Speaker 4: in Atlanta for thirty years. I've retired, Thank goodness. I've
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  Speaker 4: retired because I got tired of tearing down things, mergers, acquisitions, families,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: those sorts of things. And now I'm building. And so
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  Speaker 4: this is the place that i can wrap my head
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  Speaker 4: and my faith around because I'm building something that that
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  Speaker 4: builds up families.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody jumped on the line or like you gotta find
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  Speaker 1: up here atterny lynch okay, And I want to just
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  Speaker 1: point it out, this is an all black investment group
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  Speaker 1: that's involved in this purchase.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we're We're a bunch of developers that have actually
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  Speaker 4: developed many properties like my my property, Downtown Atlanta, Signature
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  Speaker 4: Atlanta that mix use communities coming out we're building here,
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  Speaker 4: We're building there. We have we congratulations and la property.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Diva, you're on the line here speaking to Rashan
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  Speaker 10: Sub bless stub bless Wow. I'mlike super super excited. Rashaan,
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  Speaker 10: thank you so much. I love your show. I've been
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  Speaker 10: listening to you for about two years now. I've learned
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  Speaker 10: so much from you and your guests. God bless you.
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  Speaker 10: I appreciate you and doctor Lynch. Oh, miss lady, and
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  Speaker 10: let me tell you this is Today has been a
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  Speaker 10: day that I've been getting confirmation. First of all, I'm
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  Speaker 10: gonna be bake investors. I am barely news, okay, keeping
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  Speaker 10: it transparent. I'm new, but I've been dabbling over twenty years, Okay,
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  Speaker 10: I look forward to twenty years and right now I
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  Speaker 10: have my company and my business. My LLC is called
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  Speaker 10: Breakthrough and Overflow, and I want to invest in and
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  Speaker 10: develop homes bush group homes for group homes to get back.
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  Speaker 10: I'm a veteran. I've been homeless. Oh no, I'm all
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  Speaker 10: over the place. I'm sorry. But really what I would
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  Speaker 10: like to do, I really would love to know as
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  Speaker 10: a new investor in doing what you're doing. I actually
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  Speaker 10: just invested in my first true investment property in Panama
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  Speaker 10: and wherever I go going up kindam. I have a
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  Speaker 10: beachfront condo. So like how you're saying, I used my home.
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  Speaker 10: I bought my home in twenty twenty one and I
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  Speaker 10: was able to use my equity with you know where
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: everything went up, use that equity to invest and get
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  Speaker 10: my Los Angeles property. So that's been a lifelong dream.
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  Speaker 10: And also you know it will be and bent and everything.
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  Speaker 10: But I'm all about giving back. I'm all about giving back,
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  Speaker 10: and so I really love the whole philosophy of what
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  Speaker 10: you're doing, the whole concept of what you're doing. And
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  Speaker 10: I really truly am looking for a mentor. And I
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  Speaker 10: know that's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot. You got fifty thousand projects now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, but but you get that a lot, correct,
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  Speaker 1: You get that a lot of attorney.
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  Speaker 4: Well, well let me say this. Let me say first,
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  Speaker 4: thank you for your service. I'm a former Navy jack myself,
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  Speaker 4: so I appreciate your service. I like the fact that
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: you understood that there was a better use for your
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: equity than sitting it in your home and leaving it there.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: The interest rates that are associated with certainly the last
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  Speaker 4: couple of years, with interest associated with your home equity
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  Speaker 4: is far lower than commercial debt that you can get.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: It's more accessible, but even with the increase in interest rates,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: it still are far out pacing a lot of other
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: commercial debt, family offices, various other ways that you may
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: have to use to finance a second home or an
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: investment property. But one of the things I like is
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  Speaker 4: you said you're new. But that's the beauty of it,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: because what you're doing is you're listening to people like
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  Speaker 4: money making conversations. You're investing in yourself when you're actually
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: learning the trade, right, So you're not just saying I'm
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: just gonna go out there. You got to learn the
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: business that you're in, be willing to educate yourself, being
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: willing to stop surround yours And the fact that you're
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: asking for a mentor tells me that you're willing to grow.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: And that's what I needed at my time when I started,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: and what you and all of us continue to need.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: You want to surround yourself with people who use doing it,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: and so you're in your mindset is excellent and that
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with being new. It's only wrong when
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you be new and you just rest in that. Oh
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: I'm new, so I'm gonna no learn be around people,
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  Speaker 4: figure it out. You already made the first step by
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  Speaker 4: accessing some of your capital and your home.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, turn Lynch, how can it get in touch with you?
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  Speaker 1: What is the website? Can you give that information? Because
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  Speaker 1: I'm to be honest with you, I do a lot
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  Speaker 1: reach out to you? And what is the website for
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the for the golf resort in the Dominican Republic?
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  Speaker 4: You can connect with me personally at Ddiana Lynch dot com.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: D D I A N A L y n c
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  Speaker 4: h dot com. It does list the two projects that
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  Speaker 4: I have going on in Atlanta and in the Dominican Republic.
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  Speaker 4: The direct website and all social media platforms for the resort.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: The golfers are in the Dominican Republic is Almadisamana dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald.
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• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and that created a body of work that people can
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: turn on Netflix and see did you write that episode?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Did you write that about Sister and Sister Jamie Fox?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: All these different shows, the Parkers, And you have a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: body of work, and that body of work allows you
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to see thousands of people walking in the street and
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: people just walk up to you. How does that affect you?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: When people pick out certain songs to say how important
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that music is to them.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a great feeling, and you know, you feel
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: like you've had a sense of accomplishment. You know, that's
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: what every artist the goal is is to you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: to make sure.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: That the world reaches that the song.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Reaches the world, and that it affects the world in
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: some sort of a way.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: So I hear that all the time.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I was out to lunch yesterday with
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: my guitar player and we were sitting there this young
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: lady who was our waitress. That's what I call a lamas.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: They have a specific term. I always say waitress. So
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I even said it to her that way. I said, listen,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: you know, what do you really want to do in life?
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: She says, well, you know, I want to be a singer.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: I said, oh okay, And so the guitar playoffs with
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: he said, well do you know you're talking to And
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: then he said my name to her, and she, you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: just like she lit up a little and I was
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: like a little bit too young for me, you know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Honestly, like, how do you know who I am?
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: My mother loves you? And then she got a mother
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: on the telephone. Wow, yeah, Yeah, it was interesting man.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: So all that to say, it was a great feeling
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: to know that it's still relevant that, you know, the
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: younger generation still appreciates what you do, or they appreciate
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: what you do, and the generation you came up with
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: they still appreciate what you do.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: So it's a great feeling.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: We know.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: The interesting thing about music, how important it really is.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You know, let's let's be honest. It can lift you up,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: it can motivate you, it can inspire you. And then
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: your song that you've written based on the death of
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the suicide of your daughter, is it inspirational, motivational? What
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: is the sense of that particular song.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Well, it's supposed to be all of that, but it's
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: almost when it was written, it was almost like a
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: conversation that I've had with her more times than I
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: can count, right, So the first couple of lines on
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: the song is can you tell me what the hell
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: was on your mind?
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I heard you say that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I went, WHOA, okay, right, yeah, because when I last
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: spoke to you, yeah, you were doing fine. So I've
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: had that conversation with her and my all my children
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: have three of them more times than I can count.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: You know, they do something and it's like, come on, man, really,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: like like.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: What were you thinking?
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: You know, last time I talked to you, you said you
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: weren't going to do this, and you told me you
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: were going to do this, whatever it might be. So
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: it's it's a conversation from a parent to a child.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, when we've had our conversation off,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: I said what I've had to say, and I kind
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: of open up my arms and go, I still love you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Come on, come on, give me a hug. Don't do
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: that again. You know, let's think this out or let's
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: talk this over. So that's kind of what it is.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: And unfortunately it's a conversation that we could no longer
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: have as two individuals, but it's still like, you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: my my spiritual conversation, like what was going on with you?
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: All right, Okay, that moment's passed. I'm letting you know
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: it's okay. You're not alone. Someone's watching over you. I'm
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: always here. We can talk however, we can communicate, but
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: it's okay until we meet again. When we meet again,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: we had this conversation, right, but until we meet again,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: know that I love you. Thinking about you. God's got you,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: He's holding on to you till.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: I get to you.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: We know the interesting part. And and thank you for that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: statement of what it was all about. Cler I said,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you heard you say that. At the top, I went,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: that's pretty strong. But then they got me to the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: end because I think when I was listening to the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: song Till We Meet Again, I'm talking to Will down
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: in R and B legend you know the whole approach
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to how you feel. I thought that the line was
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like the one line in the song that saying the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: rest of the song that you like the the ultimate
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: frustration of why you didn't call me? Why didn't you
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: just back up the phone? Why all the day where
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: were you at mentally that you thought you could speak
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: to dad?
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You spoke to Dad on so many things that was irrelevant,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: so many things that was selling, so many things that
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: didn't matter just to you.
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: But I was there for you right right right, And
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: here's a day all you had to do was pick
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: up the telephone and we could have talked this through
• 37:21
  Speaker 12: because four or five days prior to that we.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Talked on the telephone, and then five was, you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: five days prior to that, which was like New Year's Eve,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: you know, even I left the message on the song
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: if you listen to the song, I left her voicemail
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: that she held me on the song. So eleven days
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: later she was dead. So it's like, wait a minute,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: how did we get there? How do we get what happened? Like,
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: you know, talk, Why didn't you talk to me? Why
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: didn't you say something? Was it what were you going through?
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Was it financial? Was it? Was it mental? Was it
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: someone messing with you?
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Was it?
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: You know, like it just leads you down a rabbit
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: hole of the amount of question that you could come
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: up with as to why you did what you did
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: and how did you think that the ultimate solution was
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: to take your own life right?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And I just, you know, the whole thing about this interview.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that we got to talk
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: with you know, because you know your daughter, you know,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: initiated this interview because of the tragic turns she took
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: with her life.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Taking care.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But it's really a bigger problem out there, especially in
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: our community, because when it's such denial about because you
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: mentioned that your daughter at the top of the song
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the video I saw it talked about bipolar depression, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: some form of schizophrenia. You know, if you could tell
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: our audience what exactly all those type of symptoms are,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: if you're familiar with it. I'm not trying to put
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you on the spot, but you know, I've heard bipolar.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I've heard depression of
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: some maybe I maybe even experienced some depression and really
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: didn't know understand what I was going through. And then
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you have schizophrenia. Can you talk about those three forms
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: that your daughter dealt with that eventually led to her dad.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Well earlier on in her life, and she was thirty
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: one when she passed away. You know, we had noticed
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: certain things, Me and my ex wife had noticed certain
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: things that she was doing that very moody, unbelievably moody,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Like it would go from from zero to one hundred,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: you know, like okay, we we're cool. We're cool, We're cool.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: You say one word and then another person would come
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: out and it's like all right, okay, Well I attribute
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: that to growing things. I remember, you know, growing up,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: and my parents would say something to me and I'd
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: be the same way, like, you know, I hate you
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, not to their faces. Well, in
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: the back of my mind, you don't understand. And so
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I'm you know, we attributed that to growth. And as
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: the years went on, I remember going to my parents
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: and especially my dad and just kind of saying like,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm seeing some stuff that I ain't really
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: comfortable with, and you know, my father hit me with
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: you know, like, hey, when you were that age, you
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: were kind of the same way. Then the years went on,
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: I said it again to him, and he was like,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: you know what, you need to take her down home.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Down home was North Carolina, that's where you know my
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: parents are from. Let let him run around in the
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: fields and get some polygreens in them and.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: Need some ice staters.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a solution, but I and
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: then she got older, and then you know, he kind
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: of saw some stuff and it was like, all right, now,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: what are you gonna do about this?
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: I'm like, what am I gonna do?
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: I told you, I said, I bought this up to
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: you seven eight years ago. You told me let him
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: run around in the field.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: So and so.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: She she got professional help in that regard and found
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: out that the bipolar aspect of it is more of
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: internal uh, imbalance, you know. So there was an bounced right,
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: and she was diagnosed with medicine. Was diagnosed, she was
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: given medicine, but she hated the way the medicine made
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: a feel and made her feel lethargic and tired and
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: made it feel like she wasn't in control of herself.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: So she would stop taking the medicine. So then she
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: started kind of like self medicating. You know, she started
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: drinking a little bit, you know, I started smoking a
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: little something something to make her feel better. And that
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: wasn't the answer either. So that's the bipolar aspect of it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: The schizophrenia part, and that was a very small part
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: of it. Was kind of seeing and hearing things that
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily true, right, you know, kind of like oh, yeah,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you know this is woman. She looked at me and
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: you know, she called me in my you know, in
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: her mind, it was like, yeah, she looked at me
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: a particular way, she said at particular thing to her
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: or something like that, or she felt a particular way
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: about if someone was trying to help us, like you
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: ain't really trying to help me. I know what you're
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: up too, I know what it is. So it was
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: a lot of that as well, and you know, some
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: of it was aimed directly at me and her mother
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: So you know, we had some some instances that were just.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Kind of like, you know, whoa whoa, whoa wha, how
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: get here? Like, No, that's not the case at all,
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: And then you know, you'd have to like talk her
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: down or something like that. Not that it was going
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: to be a physical confrontation or anything like that, but
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: it was certainly like, you know, just like you could
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: just physically see her amped up. It's like, hey, no,
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: that that wasn't the case. What I meant was we
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: want to this is what we like to do. And
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: then it was kind of like, oh, okay, all right, okay,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: you know, because I thought that you were and so
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: it was it was. It was a lot of that
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: as well. So those are the two aspects.
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about it because you mentioned depression, because
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I want to look at that because I'm in one
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: of those high stress worlds when I say that, because
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes I think music helps me. I think I watch
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: TV a lot. You know, I'm always keeping my mind active,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: so I won't just stay on the subject that because
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: you know, in entertainments, like you know, it is one
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: of the most emotionally up and down businesses you have.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: You know, you can have a concert. There was a
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: soul lot of this concert half Field. You know, you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: can have a hit song in the next five years,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: maybe not another hit song, and then people start questioning you.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about myself too. On shows, you get
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: on the show, you think that show going to be
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: on for a year. They canceled, leftter three months. That's
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: what happened when I was on our Senior Hall sitcom.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, this is our senior Hall. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: working for five years. Three months later they pulled the plug.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: And so you know, so you went from this big
• 44:22
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• 44:26
  Speaker 1: really trap you. And so you mentioned that. Can we
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, all the things that you just said
• 44:34
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• 44:38
  Speaker 6: life in general. You know what I mean. There's always
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: like this, this this.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Picture in your mind that you have and it may
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily turn out to be that, and so you
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: start to look at that as being you know, somewhat
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: of a failure.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, one of.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: The best answers I heard even recently was from Giannis.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: You know when reporter right, when a reporter asked, hey,
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: are you are you defining your career by this loss?
• 45:03
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• 45:06
  Speaker 5: And then he kind of gave this amazing definition of
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: you know, what success is or what a failure is
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: or what a failure is not you know. So, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: I think we all go through stuff like that, just
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: like you.
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm an entertainer.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: Every time I record something, I believe it's going to
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: be you know, top shelf. I believe I'm going to
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: be nominated for a Grammy. I believe all these things.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: And then you know, most times it doesn't come to past.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: And then so it kind of brings you down, and
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: you know, you question your own ability, You question whether
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: you're even relevant, you know, to to society in any way,
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: shape or form. So we all go through that, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: you know, and for her, she's no difference. She's thirty
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: one years old. The Internet pretty much rules everything, thank you.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: So that was my next question, continue will That was
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: my next question that social media is really an issue now?
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, if you don't get excellunt of likes,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: this gives everyone a false sense of everything like how
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: many friends you have or anything like that. So there's
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: no there's there's not as much human contact as they
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: used to be to even find out whether someone is
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: genuine and or not genuine. Everything is just keeping up,
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: and you're always reinventing yourself, especially these days. Every freaking
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: week you got to be somebody new. You got to
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: post something or stay relevant, like let people know you're
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: still alive. You're doing something that's relevant and it's interesting
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: and this, that and the other. So you know she
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: was caught up in that as well.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you so she did artwork, right, she had
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: that was a skill set, right, So I'm sure posting
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: had a lot to do with people reacting with likes
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and things like that tell us about her her skill,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: her talent.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: Well, she was a phenomenon. She was phenomenal everything she touched.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: She was also an esthetician, so you know, but but
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: when things didn't really like rise to you know that
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: certain levels, like well I got to do something new,
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: all right, so I'm doing art now. You know, she's
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: always done art, and so she would do that. And
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: you know, art is subjective. You know, what one person's
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: trash is another person's treasure. So you know, I always
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: kind of encouraged her in that regard. It's like I'm
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: not bringing enough money. It's like, you know, life is
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: a balance, you know, do something enjoyable, enjoy yourself at
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: the same time while making some money.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: You're gonna be okay. But I got to keep up.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: I got to keep up.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: I got to keep up. So you know that that
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: played a huge role in it. But you know, a
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: really great artist.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: The artwork that we used on the cover of the
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: single is something that she had painted. Uh, she had
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: and it's a it's a fairly large piece as well.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: So I have it hanging in my home and I've
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: distributed some of her other artwork to family members, so
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: they think that they can have her in their household
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: and thinking for all the time.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Right, you know, Till with Me Again is the song
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: that he's talking about that unfortunately is tied to the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: suicide of his daughter. How can we gain access to
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: this song? It has, it is released, It is available.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Where can we go?
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: If you want to see the video and hear the song,
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: you can always come to my website. You go to
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: will Downing dot com. Uh, if you want to support
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: it and you know, purchase like the music or something
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: like that. You can come to the Prince of Sophisticated
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: Soul dot com and the video is there as well.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: You can go on YouTube, you can go to iTunes,
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: all the places that you normally get your music, so
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: you can support in that regard.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So so you was able to get the u r
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: L for the Prince Sophisticated.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I don't think anybody else wanted it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of typeing man, I mean sophisticated Prince.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I got the Prince Sophisticated. They're gonna have a problem
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: right there.
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  Speaker 5: Sophisticated what f you know? S O F I s
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: T fist No, no, no, not no, you know, you know,
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: as it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Was something I want to move back in your conversation
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: because as the black community, I want to stay on
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that a little bit, because that's the reason we're here,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: because of the fact it's about education and motivating because
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: as you said, our parents and our grandparents, how they
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: handled these signs, these warning signs of things like that,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: it's really really my computers on mute, huh, mute, my computer,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Oh that, don't worry about that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: Cool.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: They were worried about my computer was dinging. At the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: same I thought, I was, hey, we did this whole
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: interview mute problem. I'll be taking to people at this room.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: You're gonna do some old school flogging around there. No,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: they were just talking about my computer was dinging in
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the back. Only you and they heard you and I
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: we did in not conversation. But but I wanted to
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: talk about as we talk about our parents, because I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: come from field Ford, Texas, six sisters, two brothers, and
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I remember my parents and you know we're born. I
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: was born in Houston, Texas, from Freeport Louis Apple. So
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: we go back into the country, outhouses and all that stuff.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: And as I said, you know, we didn't even want
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to acknowledge the gay community in the black community, okay,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: because we didn't know what that was. Uncle was like
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: this and like that, Uncle dressed that way. But we
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: just just hushed it right up. And then you come
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: back to this major turn of events, the mental structure
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: of the black community, because we're always getting beat up.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of people need to understand about the black
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: community racism. So we can ever show weakness. We always
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the last higher, the first fire. So a lot of
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: those things will come into play. When we're willing to
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: say show vulnerability and to say that you are mentally
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: quote unquote unstable, That gets you out the door real fast.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Do you think that plays a role as well?
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: Well, definitely.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, as you just said, it's something that we
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: as a community do not talk about openly. You know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: there's a sense of shame attached to it. And you
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: pretty much hit like the top too.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: The sexuality is one thing, and you know, mental illness
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: is sort of like we have this picture in our
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: mind that you know, people think that you're crazy because
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: you talk to someone about what's going on with you
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: internally in your mind or how you feel a particular way,
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: especially these days when we're in a very uncaring society.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: You know, we hold everything in and then when you
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: do burst, it's like, you know, how do we get this?
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: It's like, well, this person never had the pleasure of
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: talking with someone and releasing it and getting a different
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: perspective on what's going on in your life. You're not
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: being judged. This person is there for you to listen
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: to or to listen to you and to maybe kind
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: of give you like a different perspective as to how
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: they see it. So, you know, a lot of times
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: we sort of look at that. We have this vision
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: in our mind of a couch and you know, you're
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: sitting there and someone's in this white jacket then writing
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: down all of this stuff, you know, and they and
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: your build and give you a couple of bills and
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: pick out the door. They say, you know, we ain't
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: gonna talk about this, right, you'ren't tell nobody I was here.
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: So you know, that's the picture that I have in
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: my mind.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: And to those who I've spoken to about this sort
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: of thing, that's the vision that.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: They have as well.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: And you know, we're very apprehensive about talking about it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: So you know, we have to do better as a society.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: We definitely have to well, you know, black people prostate
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: cancer don't want to do that, you know what I'm saying,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: and tell us what that's what we need to do.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: You know, mental health, mental care don't want to do that. Well,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: don't acknowledge our sexuality within our community because you know,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm not pointing no finger, but guess what. We
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: live in a racist country, ladies and gentlemen, A country
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: that enslaved us don't want to acknowledge the fact that
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: they did in slavers. In fact, they want to take
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: that out of books. They want to take all that
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: out of the book. They just want to go, we freed, y'all,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and just skip everything else.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: Well, either that or the fact that it happened so
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: long ago. Were still talking about this that so long agoing,
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: Like what.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if we don't talk about it, and then it
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: would happen again. Like you said, it's hard to repeat history.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: When you can see it happening again, right, then you
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: can stop it. Okay, But if you don't know your history,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you know what a sudden you can be stunned and
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: say I didn't see they coming. And so when I
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: think about your career and I think about the longevity,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: as we wrapped up this interview, well and thank you
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: again for coming on my show. You know it's really true.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I remember I started doing stand up I left my
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: job at eighty six to do stand up comedy, and
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't see the future. You know, you're
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: just out there performing. You know, the ninety two I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: did death comedy Jam and I started writing those sitcoms.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: And it's that longevity conversation I'm happening with you. It's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: like it's like you look at your success and that's
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: where the worry, fear comes in, fear of can I
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: keep it going? Fear? As we wrapped this interview up
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and talk about your success, how you've overcome fear, how
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: you overcome doubt. Because when we're young, there's no fear.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: We're just out there. But as you have success, sometimes
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: success can work against you, right because can I do
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: it again? Will I be able to do it again?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Will I be able to sell out this show? Will
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: people know who I am next year or five years
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: from that? Mentally as an artist, can you talk to
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: my autists, talk to my fans about that?
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Well? I always say when I hear stuff like that,
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: you know, chasing success is has killed the best of
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: who we've had musically. You know, So when you look
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: at Michael Jackson's, when you look at Prince, when you
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: look at your Whitney Houston's people like that, you know
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: they all passed away chasing success. In my opinion, you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Michael bleached, the skin changed, physically changed its features, would
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: stay up constantly just to kind of keep up. You
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, so it's kind of like, Okay,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: I've been to the mountaintop. I know what it looks like,
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: and someone else is coming up, but they're not as
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: good as I am. So you know, what do I
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: have to do to keep up?
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, stay up, Okay, Well I'm tired.
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: Okay, well I.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Need to get some rest, all right, And then he
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: started taking the profofall which gave him the best rest
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: he ever had. And you know, the doctor dropped the ball.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: I forgot to wake him up. I gave him too
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: much or whatever however that went down. But it was
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: all chasing success. Whitney Houston same way.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: I'm up, up, up, up up. Oh this girl can
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: sing better than me. What do I have to do?
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I got it and then started doing whatever she was doing. Prince,
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: you know, was physically hurt, you know, with his hip.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: It's like, oh man, you know you're hurt like I.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: Mean, but I can keep going.
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: I can keep going, and you know, then you know
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: his unfortunate demise. So I think that what people have
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: to realize. And it hit me on top of the
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: head as well when I got sick and started realizing
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: when I had all that time off to myself that
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: this is just one aspect of who we are as
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: entertainer or you know, who I am, you know, and
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: being an entertainer is just a small aspect of that.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: So you have to live your life, have a balance life.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: There's nothing more important than that. To be honest with
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: your success is one thing. And if you gain a
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: whole lot of it, where you're gonna go after a while.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: You know, if you can't go out and be seen
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: in society, what's the point of being successful If you
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: can't enjoy what with your friends and you can't go out,
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: can't go to the mall, can't go to the movies,
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: can't can't do anything. You know, you are gonna do
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: it with people that are like you. You know, they
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: don't even know you. So, you know, just be careful,
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: just have a balance life. And what's for you, what's
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: meant for you?
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: You again?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Can we meet again?
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: That's the sime we meet again?
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Can we meet again?
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So as to a proposse, you know, because we're gonna
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: meet again, We're gonna talk, We're gonna smile, we're gonna
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: share stories about Because I have a daughter, she's twenty six.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: So this is a very personal conversation and just to
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: share you our thought what she calls I stopped talking
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to everybody to talk there you go, because I don't know.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: So when it happened to your daughter, it magnified my
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: attention to her that you know, she called me at
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: ten and I apologized and I didn't see the call,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: you know, because she called me for a reason, whether
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: it's just saying she loves me or just to share
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: a personal story. Because again she's out there by herself.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: She's out there working remote and all these life has
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: changed so much how people live, you know, they don't
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: have to go into work, they'll have to interact and
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: gives you more time to think what time to go online?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Like you said, the internet, the social media. But as
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: we close deal with meet again, how can my fan
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: base participate be a partner to support you in getting.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: This song once again? Come out to my website, go
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: to Willdowning dot com, go to the Friends of Sophisticated Soul.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: God I know.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: I love you, and then you go to will down
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: In dot com. They'll tell you where well and come
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: on out and come see the show as well. So
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: all of that already.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Make sure you always say Bannister because the one thing
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: about my life man, as I always said, once you
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: get past fifty on the down side of your life,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I want to support people like you and individuals who
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: have supported me. Unbeknownst, your music has uplifted me. Your
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: music has got me through my downadays. Your musical have
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: inspired me, made me feel good when I felt down.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: So it's artists like you man play such a major
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: role in the Black community by getting this through our
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: tough times. Thank you Will Downd for coming on Money
• 58:28
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• 58:29
  Speaker 6: I appreciate, appreciate you, sir.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: We talked soon.
• 58:40
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