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Crack, Adult Entertainment & Federal Indictments for Hunter Biden · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: One point six million out of ATM machines in cash.
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  Speaker 1: That is now what we are learning about with new
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  Speaker 1: information about Hunter Biden. He's spent a staggering eight hundred
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  Speaker 1: seventy two thousand on prostitutes, porn, and sex club memberships.
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  Speaker 2: He also, on top of that eight.
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  Speaker 1: Hundred and seventy two thousand on prostitutes, porn and sex
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  Speaker 1: club memberships, spent one point six million dollars on stuff.
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  Speaker 2: How do we know that?
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  Speaker 1: Because he took one point six million dollars of cash
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  Speaker 1: out of ATM withdrawals. The first suns wild spending is
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  Speaker 1: laid out in the Tax of Asian case. They could
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  Speaker 1: land him seventeen years in jail and is a disaster
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  Speaker 1: for Dad Joe Biden's campaign. We know that Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 1: spent these staggering eight hundred and seventy thousand on prostitutes
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  Speaker 1: and the sex club memberships and porn, and then took
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  Speaker 1: the one point six min of cash. Because of the
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  Speaker 1: documents for on this indictment, there's no way they can
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  Speaker 1: say it didn't happen. Now, federal prosecutors, after being able
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  Speaker 1: to dig into this a little bit more, are making
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  Speaker 1: a very simple claim that the president's scandal hit son
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  Speaker 1: spent almost five million on a lavish lifestyle between twenty
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  Speaker 1: sixteen and twenty nineteen, while failing to pay one point
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  Speaker 1: four million dollars in taxes in a case that leaves
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  Speaker 1: them facing seventeen possible years in prison. The indictment said
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  Speaker 1: to be a disaster for his father's twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 1: president to run.
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  Speaker 2: Alleges that Hunter Biden spent.
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  Speaker 1: This money specifically on drugs, escorts, girlfriends, luxury hotels, rental properties,
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  Speaker 1: exotic cars, exotic clothing, and other items of personal nature.
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  Speaker 1: In short, everything but his taxes. That breakdown includes six
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  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three thousand on various women. Let me
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  Speaker 1: say that again. The breakdown includes six hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 1: three thousand on various women, that's how it's categorized in
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  Speaker 1: the indictment, as well as almost four hundred thousand on
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  Speaker 1: clothing and accessories. It also alleg to that he spent
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty eight thousand on adult entertainment and
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  Speaker 1: then on top of that, he took one point six
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  Speaker 1: million dollars in cash from ATM withdrawals alone.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is just in a three year period. During
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  Speaker 2: that time, he.
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  Speaker 1: Was in the middle of a well documented addiction to
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  Speaker 1: alcohol and crack cocaine. You would assume that some of
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  Speaker 1: the one point six million was going to straight up
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  Speaker 1: drug use, But there's no way he was able to
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  Speaker 1: consume one point six million dollars in drugs. You would
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  Speaker 1: die in that sort of a period of time. So
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  Speaker 1: where else did the money go?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 1: Hunter is now facing not one but two criminal trials
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of his father's presidential campaign in Delaware.
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  Speaker 1: He's also facing a maximum of twenty five years in
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  Speaker 1: prison for allegedly lying about being a drug.
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  Speaker 2: User when he bought a gun.
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  Speaker 1: Now, there's no indication he'll actually do any jail time
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  Speaker 1: for those crimes, and at the most he might do
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  Speaker 1: a few months. But let me tell you about hunters
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  Speaker 1: four years of wild spending broken down by years just
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  Speaker 1: in ATM cash withdraws. He withdrew two hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: from ATMs just in twenty sixteen. Now, I want to
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  Speaker 1: put this into simplistic terms, So the understand if you
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  Speaker 1: divide two hundred thousand by three hundred and sixty five days,
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  Speaker 1: that means that every single day he was taking out
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  Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty dollars in cash from ATM withdraws.
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  Speaker 2: That's just in one year.
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  Speaker 1: But then you fast forward to twenty seventeen, the number
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  Speaker 1: then skyrocketed, and this is ATM withdrawals of a half
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  Speaker 1: a million dollars. That means every month he was taking
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  Speaker 1: out forty one thousand, six hundred and sixty six dollars
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  Speaker 1: every single month in ATM cash. Now, if you divide
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  Speaker 1: that by thirty days, that means he was taking almost
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  Speaker 1: fourteen hundred dollars a day out of the ATM in cash.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't done.
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  Speaker 1: It got even worse in two thousand and eighteen, when
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  Speaker 1: he spent seven hundred and seventy two thousand dollars or
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  Speaker 1: that's how much money he got out of the ATMs.
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  Speaker 1: You divide that by twelve that means he was getting
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  Speaker 1: sixty four thousand, three hundred dollars a month on average
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  Speaker 1: in actual cash out of ATMs. You divide that by
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  Speaker 1: thirty days, that means he was getting out every single day.
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  Speaker 1: In two thoy and eighteen, one hundred and forty four
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  Speaker 1: dollars every twenty four hours in cash from ATMs. That
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  Speaker 1: number almost identical the very next year in twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 1: for a grand total of one point sixty six four
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  Speaker 1: million dollars in cash withdrawals alone from ATM machines. Now
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  Speaker 1: here's the part that gets even crazier. Payments to quote
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  Speaker 1: various women. This became a thing really in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen, with one hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: he was giving to various women. That number then skyrocketed
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  Speaker 1: in eighteen to three hundred and eighty three thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: in payments to various women. He also really liked nice
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  Speaker 1: stuff clothing and accessories. These are exotic clothing that he
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  Speaker 1: was buying himself, high end suits, and Gucci Prada.
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  Speaker 2: The list goes on and on.
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  Speaker 1: At one point he was spending one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a year just on clothing and accessories.
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  Speaker 1: That was in twenty eighteen, two, one hundred and thirteen thousand,
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen, seventy eight thousand and sixteen, and in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty three thousand. We also know that he spent a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money on what was described in the indictment
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  Speaker 1: is health, beauty, and pharmacy expenses. Fifty four thousand and sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars the next year, then it jumped
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  Speaker 1: to one hundred and ten thousand, then back down to
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  Speaker 1: forty six thousand. When it comes to food and groceries,
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  Speaker 1: he also liked to spend money on that food and
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  Speaker 1: groceries and restaurants, seventy grand and another seventy three, then forty,
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  Speaker 1: then thirty three thousand for a quarter of a million
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  Speaker 1: over the four year period. Loans, he loved to have
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  Speaker 1: nice places. Twenty sixteen, he spent one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 1: four thousand dollars on loan and mortgage payments alone. But
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  Speaker 1: then you get into the stuff where apparently it was
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  Speaker 1: important to him, adult entertainment. For example, he spent more
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  Speaker 1: than one hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars. When it
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  Speaker 1: came to telephone and utilities, he was like a normal American.
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  Speaker 1: But when it came to the big money, well, guess
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  Speaker 1: what he's spent it on all of the things that
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  Speaker 1: were basically illegal. This is a man that spent five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars during a timeframe on miscellaneous items, which is
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  Speaker 1: totally insane.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that's not all.
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  Speaker 1: There was also a lot of corruption, But with Hunter
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  Speaker 1: Biden in twenty eighteen alone. As I mentioned, Hunter allegedly
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  Speaker 1: had spent more than one hundred thousand dollars on adult entertainment,
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  Speaker 1: but only five hundred on mortgage payments, which doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: add up either. Some payments are laid out in excruciating detail,
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  Speaker 1: including eleven thousand, five hundred for an escort to spend
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  Speaker 1: two nights with him in twenty and eighteen. Hunter made
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  Speaker 1: three nine hundred and forty seven dollars in payments to
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  Speaker 1: M Street Management, a strip club in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: In January twenty eighteen. He is also alleged to have
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  Speaker 1: used the business line of credit to make twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: thousand in payments to an online line pornography website, which
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  Speaker 1: in total accounted for one fifth of all the business
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  Speaker 1: line of credit expenditures. So twenty seven thousand, three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixteen dollars in payments to an online pornography website.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The President's son also made a lot of one off payments.
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  Speaker 1: One example is a one thousand, five hundred dollars VENMO
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  Speaker 1: payment on August the fourteenth of twenty eighteen to an
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  Speaker 1: exotic dancer at a strip club that he attempted to
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  Speaker 1: pass off as the purchase of artwork in his accounts.
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  Speaker 1: Over the four years, he spent more than two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty seven thousand dollars on health, beauty and pharmacy services.
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  Speaker 1: That's more than one hundred and ten thousand of which
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  Speaker 1: was splashed in a single year. The indictment also revealed
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  Speaker 1: how Hunter Biden spent thousands of dollars on luxury hotels, flights,
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  Speaker 1: and car rentals. In April of twenty and eighteen, nine
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  Speaker 1: hundred nine six dollars was spent on Virgin America flights
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  Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, and upon arrival in California, he spent
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  Speaker 1: one thousand, seven hundred and twenty seven dollars on renting
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  Speaker 1: a Lamborghini.
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  Speaker 2: Because hey, let's be honest, why not.
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  Speaker 1: You're the president's sun or then the vice president son,
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  Speaker 1: and you got all this money coming in from Russian oligarchs,
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  Speaker 1: from communists in China, China, You've got people send you
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  Speaker 1: money from Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: Why not blow it out.
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  Speaker 1: In the following two months, Hunter also spent a staggering
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  Speaker 1: forty three thousand, six hundred ninety three dollars on stays
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  Speaker 1: at lavish hotels in La. He also paid seven thousand,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen dollars to an La Airbnb for
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  Speaker 1: rentals for his then girlfriend in May and June. On
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  Speaker 1: top of the other money I just mentioned. All nine charges,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, filed in California, all relate to taxes. That,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is good news for the President United
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  Speaker 1: States of America, because this is a way of just
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  Speaker 1: going after Hunter Biden without it connecting him to the president.
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  Speaker 2: What else is in there?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it includes two felony charges for filing a fosse return,
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  Speaker 1: a felony charge for tax evasion for failure to pay charges,
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  Speaker 1: and a further two charges for failure to file. The
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  Speaker 1: defendant engaged in a four year scheme to not pay
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  Speaker 1: at least one point four million in self assessed federal
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  Speaker 1: taxes he owed for taxures sixteen through nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: It reads.
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  Speaker 1: These latest allegations come as Biden's son already faces three
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  Speaker 1: felony charges that carry a maximum combined twenty five year
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  Speaker 1: incarceration and two hundred fifty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Fine, don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: He can do some of his artwork, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: all that money can come in very quickly. Now the
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  Speaker 1: first count is for lyne on a twenty eighteen gun
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  Speaker 1: purchase form that he was not an illicit drug user
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  Speaker 1: and has a top sentence of ten years. I can
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  Speaker 1: promise you right now that's not going to happen. The
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  Speaker 1: second count is for lying to the gun store about it,
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  Speaker 1: which could net him up to five years. I promise
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  Speaker 1: you there's no way in hell they're going to send
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  Speaker 1: him to jail for that either. The third charges for
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  Speaker 1: possessing the firearm while being an addict.
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  Speaker 2: Which could land him another ten years.
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  Speaker 1: I can promise you he will not go to jail
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  Speaker 1: for that amount of time either. In fact, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure that any of those charges will even get him
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  Speaker 1: in jail more than maybe thirty days. Now, this latest
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  Speaker 1: indictment is different. This latest indictment alleges that Hunter attempted
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  Speaker 1: to evade the assessment of taxes for tax years twenty
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  Speaker 1: eighteen when he filed false tax returns in or about
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  Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty. That is the biggest problem now
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  Speaker 1: coming against him. As well as failing to file and
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  Speaker 1: pay his taxes, he has also been accused of including
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  Speaker 1: false business deductions in his twenty eighteen returns to reduce
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  Speaker 1: his tax bill. The defense are the defendant engaged in
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  Speaker 1: a four years scheme quote unquote to not pay at
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  Speaker 1: least one point four million in self assessed federal taxes
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  Speaker 1: he owed for tax years sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: These latest allegations also come as Biden's son already faces
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  Speaker 1: three phony charges that carry a maximum combined twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years incarceration. In that quarter of a million dollar five
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  Speaker 1: that I mentioned earlier, But here's the difference. When you
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  Speaker 1: are Hunter Biden and your dad is the president. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear there's no way they're going to
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  Speaker 1: hold them accountable in the same way that they would
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  Speaker 1: hold someone.
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  Speaker 2: Like you or I accountable. Let's just be honest. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The first count is by the way, for lying on
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  Speaker 1: that gun purchase, all right, and and yeah, that's going
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  Speaker 1: to get him some time possibly, but it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to get him years or up to a decade, as
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  Speaker 1: they were mentioning earlier, like it's just not going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: He also has been charged with failing to file and
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  Speaker 1: pay his taxes, and he has also been accused of
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  Speaker 1: including false business deductions.
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  Speaker 2: So will that get him in jail? I honestly doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see any of this's really putting him
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  Speaker 1: in real jail time. Now, there's others that disagree with me. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. One of those that disagrees
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  Speaker 1: with me is Chris Christie. Chris Christy was on TV
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  Speaker 1: earlier day. He is a former prosecutor, and this is
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  Speaker 1: what he had to say about Hunter Biden in these
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  Speaker 1: newest charges to Andrea.
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  Speaker 3: Mitchell together doing the program that day five or so
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  Speaker 3: months ago, back in June, when the plea deal fell
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  Speaker 3: apart on what would have been a misdemeanor tax charge.
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  Speaker 3: Now Hunter Biden's lawyers are facing the second indictment with
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  Speaker 3: three felon aise nine counts and a far more serious
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  Speaker 3: potential penalty. So is this one of the worst agreement defense?
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  Speaker 3: How the defense handle that and missing history?
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  Speaker 4: Look, we talked about it that day. You remember, I
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  Speaker 4: had been saying for weeks before that that the judge
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  Speaker 4: would never approve such a sweetheart plea deal. And I
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  Speaker 4: think what his lawyers did was give him awful advice.
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  Speaker 4: And I think what the prosecutors did was awful as well,
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  Speaker 4: in terms of agreeing to a deal like that that
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  Speaker 4: was so manifestly unjust. And so now he's facing what
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  Speaker 4: he should have been facing from the beginning, which were
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  Speaker 4: felony tax charges. When you involve millions of dollars in
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  Speaker 4: tax evasion, that is a felony, and the same thing
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  Speaker 4: with the felony gun charges. And you know, he faces
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  Speaker 4: these charges because the government has evidence beyond a reasonable
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  Speaker 4: doubt that he committed these crimes. And so he's now
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  Speaker 4: going to have to decide how the best.
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  Speaker 2: Way is to resolve these matters.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure that he could negotiate a plea at this point,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not going to be the kind of sweetheart
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  Speaker 4: deal he got before.
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  Speaker 2: And my guess is that with the combination of the gun.
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  Speaker 4: Charges and the tax charges that Hunter Biden is going
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  Speaker 4: to have to do time in jail, which is really remarkable.
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  Speaker 1: I love how she says there that this is like
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  Speaker 1: quite shocking at the end. Is it shocking that if
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  Speaker 1: you do this much in illegal activities.
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  Speaker 2: That you might go to jail?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, all the money that I just ran through
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  Speaker 1: from this indictment is all involved specifically in illegal activities.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about millions out of ATMs and cash clearly
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  Speaker 1: going to illegal activities. You're talking about hundreds and hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of thousands to prostitutes. You're talking about one hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: thousands going to online pornography sites and sex clubs. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and all the money is coming in and you can't
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  Speaker 1: even explain what the services were that you were providing
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  Speaker 1: for this cash outside of it going to the big
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  Speaker 1: guy and fluence on the United States government, right that
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  Speaker 1: he had, like you're selling access. There is no product
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  Speaker 1: here but the Vice President's office and favors from the
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  Speaker 1: US government. That's the part that I think is amazing
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  Speaker 1: is that you have you know, MSNBC there and when
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  Speaker 1: when Chris Christy's like, yeah, he's probably going to do
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  Speaker 1: some jail time now. I also want to be clear
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  Speaker 1: and limit your expectations. The idea that Hunter Biden goes
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  Speaker 1: to jail for any amount of time that's significant is
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  Speaker 1: it would be a joke. I also think that his
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  Speaker 1: dad would absolutely pardon him and wouldn't give to you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's about partying partying his son. So so to be clear,
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  Speaker 1: I think the idea that he would even see a
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  Speaker 1: jail sell is slim to none. And that's also because
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's worried. I don't think he worries
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to really be convicted of these crimes.
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  Speaker 1: He might plead guilty and do a deal. He he
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  Speaker 1: you know what, he might go to jail for thirty days.
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  Speaker 1: But I still think his dad would pardon him. And
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  Speaker 1: if you're Joe Biden, I don't think you care if
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  Speaker 1: you pardon your son because the alibi is well, that
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  Speaker 1: was during a dark time.
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  Speaker 2: We're so proud of him.
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  Speaker 1: He was a drug addict, he didn't know what he
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  Speaker 1: was doing, and therefore I'm gonna pardon him. And I
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  Speaker 1: actually believe that the Democratic Party really wouldn't be that
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  Speaker 1: mad about it. And the reason why they wouldn't honestly
• 17:23
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• 17:34
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• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it's murdering somebody, that you should be immediately processed and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: let back out into society. They do not believe that
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: there should be accountability for your actions. If you commit
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  Speaker 1: the most hateous crime. So if this is just Hunter
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Biden not paying his fair share, right, which Democrats are
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: always obsessed with, but not anymore when it comes to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: this Apparently like this one, it's different. Right beforehand it
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  Speaker 1: mattered pay your fair share. Now we don't really care,
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  Speaker 1: and he's a drug addict. So there's your alibi and
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  Speaker 1: you're out. So it's again, no big deal, totally fine,
• 18:15
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  Speaker 1: CNN saying it this way that the Hunter Biden whatever
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  Speaker 1: resolve felony charges carrying prison with misdemeanors if the judge
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  Speaker 1: didn't quote ask any questions.
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  Speaker 2: That's how CNN put it.
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  Speaker 5: CNN's Evan Price broke this story. Evan walk us through
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  Speaker 5: what we are seeing in these nine charges.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Kayvan, this is a fifty six page indictment that
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  Speaker 6: has been returned by a grand jury in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 6: which is where Hunter Biden lives, just outside of Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 6: We're talking about three felony counts, felony tax counts. Six
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  Speaker 6: of these counts are misdemeanor tax counts.
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  Speaker 7: And what prosecutors say is that.
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  Speaker 6: Hunter Biden engaged in a four year scheme to evade taxes,
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  Speaker 6: not paying his taxes from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 7: There were about one point four million.
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  Speaker 6: Dollars that he was supposed to have paid and failed
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  Speaker 6: to pay during that period. Now, during this period, according
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  Speaker 6: to prosecutors, he was spending all this money on luxury goods,
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  Speaker 6: on his personal expenses. He was using a company that
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  Speaker 6: he owned to essentially take money out and pay for things,
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  Speaker 6: including a very healthy habit.
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  Speaker 7: Apparently on adult entertainment.
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  Speaker 6: He was spending on within one hundred and eighty eight
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  Speaker 6: thousand dollars, according to prosecutors, on adult entertainment during this period.
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  Speaker 6: There are things here listed tax deductions that he attempted
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  Speaker 6: to claim for things like wages which ended up going
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  Speaker 6: to women that he was involved in, including for example,
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  Speaker 6: a ten thousand dollars membership in a sex club. These
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  Speaker 6: are the things that prosecutors allege Hunter Biden used his
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  Speaker 6: money for instead of paying this taxes. Now this again,
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  Speaker 6: we're going through these documents that were filed just this evening.
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  Speaker 6: We knew, Caitlin that this was coming, obviously because prosecutors
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  Speaker 6: David Weiss, the Special Council, had telegraphed that this was
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  Speaker 6: coming after this this plea deal had collapsed several months ago.
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  Speaker 6: But we also knew that he was collecting evidence from witnesses.
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  Speaker 6: We knew that they had brought in witnesses to testify
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  Speaker 6: and to provide evidence to that grand jury in Los
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  Speaker 6: Angeles in the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 7: So today now we finally see these charges.
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  Speaker 5: Caitlyn Well and Evan, you mentioned that plea deal that
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  Speaker 5: was supposed to happen, that Hunter Biden walked into court
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  Speaker 5: that day I believe it was in August, thinking it
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  Speaker 5: was it was going to be signed off on by
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  Speaker 5: that judge. But it reminds us just how we are
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  Speaker 5: still seeing the continued fallout right now from what happened
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  Speaker 5: that day in court.
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  Speaker 6: Right, I mean, for Hunter Biden, this has to be
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  Speaker 6: one of the most frustrating parts of this experience. He
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  Speaker 6: was minutes minutes away from having this entire ordeal put
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  Speaker 6: behind him, and instead he's now facing these charges all
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  Speaker 6: because a judge asked some very frankly appropriate questions. She
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  Speaker 6: simply asked whether Hunter Biden and his lawyers understood what
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  Speaker 6: the terms of these deals of this deal entailed, and
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  Speaker 6: everything sort of fell apart after his lawyer said, essentially,
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  Speaker 6: we don't have a deal anymore, your honor, and so
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  Speaker 6: that's how we are here. This was going to be
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  Speaker 6: put to bed with a simple misdemeanor deal, right, He
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  Speaker 6: was going to be plead guilty to a misdemeanor. And
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  Speaker 6: if you remember, he was also being investigated for buying
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  Speaker 6: a gun during a time that he was prohibited according
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  Speaker 6: to the federal government. He is facing, Caitlin, those separate
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  Speaker 6: charges still in the state of Delaware again, federal charges
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  Speaker 6: for owning a gun during the time he was prohibited.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, two remarkable indictments here as you read
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  Speaker 5: through this lengthy document. I know it just came out.
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  Speaker 5: We just got this after you broke the story. Is
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  Speaker 5: there anything to be clear in here? Because I know
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  Speaker 5: this is the next question that's going to be asked
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  Speaker 5: on Capitol Hill. Is there anything in here that ties
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  Speaker 5: back to the behavior of President Biden himself?
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  Speaker 6: Right, there's nothing in these fifty six pages that relate
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  Speaker 6: to the President of the United States. All of this
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  Speaker 6: has to do with Hunter Biden, who was struggling with
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  Speaker 6: substance abuse. He has said himself that he was addicted
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  Speaker 6: to drugs during this period. He was not paying attention
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  Speaker 6: to his personal affairs. Obviously had a very personal, very
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  Speaker 6: messy personal life, as detailed in these documents. And none
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  Speaker 6: of this, though, goes to any of the allegations of
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  Speaker 6: Republicans have been making that there was some kind of
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  Speaker 6: a deal between Hunter Biden paying money that he was
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  Speaker 6: getting from his business deals overseas to the president or
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  Speaker 6: to the then vice president and now the President of
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  Speaker 6: the United States, his father.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I love Wow.
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  Speaker 1: They just fell all over themselves to answer that question.
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  Speaker 1: Do you notice that they're like, oh, there's no connection
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  Speaker 1: here to Hunter Biden. And by the way, you should
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  Speaker 1: feel sorry for Hunter Biden, because Hunter Biden just a
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  Speaker 1: drug addict who was going through a very tough time
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  Speaker 1: in his life. You know, I mean, you're spending one
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  Speaker 1: hundred eighty thousand dollars on sexual activities in a year's time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, so you should feel sorry for
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Biden.
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  Speaker 2: But there's nothing that ties him to his father.
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  Speaker 1: That's what Cenan just said, which, by the way, is
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  Speaker 1: an absolute lie because none of these payments come in
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  Speaker 1: without selling access. The simple question is what were these
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  Speaker 1: people in Ukraine, in Romania, in Russia and China getting
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  Speaker 1: in return for services rendered by Hunter Biden. There was
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  Speaker 1: no service, There was no widget being sold, there was
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  Speaker 1: no product. They were buying access, That's what they were doing.
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  Speaker 1: They were buying access. Access is what they were getting,
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  Speaker 1: access to the Vice President of United States of America
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  Speaker 1: and to sweetheart deals and deals that were being given
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  Speaker 1: to them that they desperately needed. So when you hear
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  Speaker 1: them say, oh, there's no connection here, that's CNN straight
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  Speaker 1: up lying to you.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a straight out lie.
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  Speaker 1: None of Hunter Biden's dollars that came into his bank account, that,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, then came out of the bank account
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  Speaker 1: and also went to the big guy. We have direct
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  Speaker 1: payments the big Guy, which CNN just lied about and
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  Speaker 1: said didn't happen. We have proof of checks and we
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  Speaker 1: have proof of money going into the Biden Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 1: bank accounts, like that's there, that's real, it's it happened,
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  Speaker 1: and they just straight up lie to you. Now, this
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  Speaker 1: prosecutor also did a very good job of making sure
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  Speaker 1: that none of these charges directly tied to the president.
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  Speaker 1: Right they want to they want to isolate and insulate
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  Speaker 1: Joe Biden by only charging Hunter Biden with crimes that
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  Speaker 1: there is a one degree of separation, not a direct
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  Speaker 1: time to the president, an indirect tie to the president.
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  Speaker 2: And what they.
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  Speaker 1: Should have said, if they were being honest journalists c
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  Speaker 1: and in which they're not right, they're propagandas for this president,
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  Speaker 1: what they should have said was, look, it's clear these
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  Speaker 1: charges were directly to Hunter Biden, but there's no way
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  Speaker 1: that you can say that Hunter Biden wasn't making money
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  Speaker 1: off trading off the family name, because, as stated in
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  Speaker 1: the indictment and stated by many of the whistleblowers, hunter
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  Speaker 1: Biden didn't have a product or an expertise that he
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  Speaker 1: was selling for millions and millions of dollars to the
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  Speaker 1: shadiest people in the world. What he was doing was
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  Speaker 1: selling access to his father. We know that Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 1: lied now with new phone records that show that Hunter
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  Speaker 1: Biden was not on the phone with his daddy when
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  Speaker 1: his daddy was talking to his business partners and associates
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  Speaker 1: dozens and dozens of times.
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  Speaker 2: We now have that proof.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're not selling access to Joe Biden, then
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  Speaker 1: why is Joe Biden on the phone dozens of times
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  Speaker 1: with your business associates.
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  Speaker 2: If he's not talking business.
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  Speaker 1: Right with you, then why on earth would he be
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  Speaker 1: taking all these phone calls without Hunter Biden on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Direct phone calls between Joe Biden's business associates, I say,
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's business partners and then then vice President the
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  Speaker 1: United States of America.
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  Speaker 2: You would think CNN would have been honest about that.
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  Speaker 1: No, they want you to believe as they just describe
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  Speaker 1: that story. It's exactly the defense I told you was
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  Speaker 1: going to be there. The defense is simple. The defense is, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he was a troubled soul who got addicted to drugs
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  Speaker 1: and prostitutes, he did some stupid things because he was
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  Speaker 1: addicted to drugs.
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  Speaker 2: You should feel.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry to him, give him a slap on the wrist,
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