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[BxBD] Big day of boxing on May 30 · Boxing B-Sides

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  This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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  Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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  Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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  Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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  is Boxing Before Dark. Alright. Boxing Before
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  Dark. Holy shit. There is a scent of Damel in
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  the room. Shanada, how excited are you to have
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  Damel joining us today? I'm pretty excited. I
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  love having guest stars. Damel, how are you?
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  How's it going up in the bay? Yeah, well, I mean,
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  first of all, just thanks for having me on. guest
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  speaker. Pretty excited. As far as how it's going,
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  pretty... I don't know. It's pretty lit. Have
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  a lot to look forward to. We got Robin Safar
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  fighting here. We got... I forgot about him.
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  Ola Squaga fighting here, you know. Ola Squaga's
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  fine. I've got to see him a few times. He's good.
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  Yeah, we might be the next Riyadh, you know,
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  just saying. Riyadh of the West. Yeah. You're
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  not anywhere near the gas explosion, are you?
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  No, that's in LA. Okay. I just saw California.
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  Yeah, no, no. I know it's a big state. Yeah.
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  It's very far from me. Good. Can't have our guest
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  star dying in the middle of the podcast. Dying
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  mid -pod. You can die afterwards, that's okay.
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  Yeah, it's just not in the middle. It's not in
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  the middle of it. Man, let me get some little
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  shit out of the way. The boxing survey continues.
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  bxng .co slash survey. I want to hear what you
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  think about the titles. How do you rate them
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  individually in terms of prestige? How do you
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  rank them against each other in terms of prestige?
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  All that type of stuff. bxng .co slash survey.
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  And the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival
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  Act. I refuse to allow... them to just get away
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  with doing it. I'm not going to sit here and
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  let them just do it. While we can, lvxmedia .net
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  slash bsides. Go to that site. There's a link
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  at the very top for where you can find the contact
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  information for your senators. And there's a
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  blurb there as well if you want to use that.
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  Or if you already know what you want to say,
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  whatever. But we have to do something. We can't
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  just let them get away with it. You know what
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  I mean? We have to do something. So this is how
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  we do it. Maybe it's my inner activist coping.
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  But... I feel like if we can do something, we
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  should. But enough of that bullshit. Triple G
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  is talking about returning to the ring one more
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  time. At this advanced age. Like, holy shit.
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  Did he drop some weight? Yeah, I don't... Last
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  I've seen of him... uh it looks pretty uh um
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  it looks pretty chunky like i know i know um
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  uh who was it like maybe two years ago there
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  was like uh a similar rumor of like you know
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  him maybe coming back to to light heavy um And
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  then I think around the same time, there was
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  also like a similar rumor for Saunders, you know,
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  going to Light Heavy. Billy Joe Saunders, which
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  is not making Light Heavy. Yeah, I mean, maybe,
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  you know, maybe Cruiserweight. Honestly, he would
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  come back for like Bridger, I feel. That's like
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  the lowest. for billy joe saunders probably uh
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  i really i think triple g uh if he was genuinely
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  determined could make 168 again 168 yeah yeah
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  i mean like throughout yeah because uh like throughout
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  you know obviously you know this was during career
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  um um like time but you know throughout his career
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  he was never really like far off from 160 right
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  like you know when when he um when he had to
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  do those like weight check -ins you know like
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  two weeks before the fight he was like 165 something
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  like that um so he was a consummate professional
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  like i i have no doubt that if he really wanted
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  to make maybe 68 he could But, I mean, the question
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  is against who? You know, 168 is pretty hot right
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  now. Yeah, like, there's a lot of, you know,
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  like, I mean, pretty much everyone besides from
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  Canelo is like, I mean, they're young, you know,
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  like below 30, like average age. And, you know,
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  at like this, Yeah, with his age, you know, he
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  wouldn't be favored. And he would just get, yeah,
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  it would just be pretty bad, yeah. Maybe Triple
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  G versus Mayweather. Mayweather needs money.
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  Yeah, he... I wouldn't rule that out. That would
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  be to Stephen A. Smith. After Mayweather beat
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  Pacquiao, there was, I remember, a tweet from
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  Stephen A. Smith saying, if Floyd Mayweather
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  really is an all -time great, he'll fight Triple
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  G. really yeah yeah i i like like during you
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  know like um yeah i i um i remember that during
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  the peak of you know triple g's popularity that
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  was always like um i mean especially on um um
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  hbl that was always being talked about not not
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  really as like uh oh we need to make this happen
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  but yeah kind of like uh you know oh if floyd
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  mayweather really is tpe why doesn't he fight
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  triple g right triple g haven't moved down to
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  154 um that's not happening yeah like um um like
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  you know as a floyd like you know at that point
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  in his career had anything left to to prove um
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  but Yep. But yeah, not much left to prove at
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  that point. And even for Triple G, who had already
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  done quite a bit, like he had a double digit
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  knockout streak at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I
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  think it was like, yeah, going into the fight
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  with Daniel Jacobs, I think his knockout streak
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  Was that like 22? It was like in the low 20s.
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  I think 22 sounds right. I'm probably off by
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  a few numbers. Completely impressive regardless.
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  Yeah, it was something crazy like that. You know,
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  going into the Jacobs fight. I mean, yeah, you
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  know, but I don't know. In terms of comeback,
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  yeah, you know, if he has come back to 168, I
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  just, I don't know who the opponent would be.
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  Actually, we need, we, yes, we need Triple G
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  versus William Skull. Well, if, William Skull
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  got beaten by Jakub Bank. So, Triple G, Jakub
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  Bank. That's, I think, my preferred matchup.
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  Logical. Yeah. Where's Triple G from? I forget.
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  Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan, yeah. Put it in Germany.
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  Yeah. Neutral ground. Yeah, well, Skull is from
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  Germany, but... Yeah, I mean, I don't, yeah,
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  no, I don't think anyone wants to watch Williams
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  School ever. I meant, yeah, to bank and put it
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  in Germany. Oh, yeah, bank, no. Yeah. Let's keep
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  it rolling. One really quick, David Naika versus
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  Floyd Masson. IBF Cruiser Eliminator in Auckland,
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  New Zealand. I think the Jai Opataya vacancy
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  is showing its head here. Yeah, and I mean, I
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  don't know. I guess I'm not too familiar with
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  sanctioning. yeah we lost ammo the oh okay uh
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  am i back yeah you're back yeah um no yeah i
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  was saying like um you know i'm not too familiar
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  on like uh the sanctioning body rules um specifically
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  the ibf they're like really the only ones that
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  have like pretty concrete set rules um uh with
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  stuff like this but um i mean can't they just
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  fight for the vacant title or I imagine this
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  is like the step closer to that. Just my guess.
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  I think they're doing two eliminators and the
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  winners fight for the title. That would make
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  sense. They don't have a clear number one right
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  now, so they're having like three and four fight
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  and five and six, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah, and
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  then I might be... I'm probably just making this
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  up, but I think Robin Safar, I think he's going
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  the IBF route, if I'm not mistaken. He's currently
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  number 14 in the IBF. Okay, so then, yeah, no.
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  He wouldn't be getting an IBF top shot. My guess
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  is, looking at the rankings, Number one is Vacant.
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  Number two is Vidal Riley. Number three is CBS.
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  Number four is Opitaya. Number five is Naika.
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  Number six is Massant. So, with five and six
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  fighting each other, three and four are with
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  Zufa, my thinking is that whoever wins this is
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  facing Vidal Riley for... The vacant title. The
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  vacant title. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah. I
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  have no idea who Floyd Masson is, though. I don't
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  either. Yeah, I never heard of the guy. Yeah,
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  I mean, but, you know, it's Cruiserweight. Like,
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  I, you know, it's, like, it's whatever. Yeah.
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  Gotta get another big Islander in the rankings
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  for the IBF. Yeah. It would just be, weird um
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  opitaya beat the fucking shit out of david naika
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  so yeah so to have it if we just for the sake
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  of the point naika wins the vacant title and
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  like you're winning it off a vacancy from a dude
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  who beat the shit out of you that that just makes
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  perfect sense If Opatai is going to Zufa, I guess
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  that's what happens. That's what you get, Jai.
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  Read your contracts, boys. Yeah, there's not
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  much you can do about it at Cruiserweight. I'm
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  surprised that BF even found 14 guys to rate
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  at the weight class. You brought up Safar Damil.
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  He seems to be going the WBO route. He's number
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  four over there. But he's ranked by all four
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  belts. Oh, WBO. Okay, okay, yeah. Like I said,
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  yeah, I probably just, I don't know, made that
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  up in my mind. It happens. You know what might
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  happen? Matchroom is aiming for Deontay Wilder
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  versus Justice Huni. That seems like a bad idea.
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  Why is that? No, no, no, no. Hold on. Hear me
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  out. I could see this going, like, play by play,
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  just like, you know, Huni's fight with Wardley.
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  You know, Huni just boxes, like, Deontay's ears
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  off. And then Wilder just lands the, you know,
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  right, I don't know where it gets knocked out.
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  He wins the fight. maybe wilder hasn't done that
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  for a long time though i just see wilder getting
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  pieced up for yeah 12 rounds or whatever it is
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  yeah yeah like um um i mean wilder yeah he he
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  definitely you know i don't think he has he doesn't
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  have that that kind of pop anymore where like
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  you know if he just graces you with with the
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  right hand you just go like unconscious Like,
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  the last time that happened was four years ago
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  against Talanius, I think. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't
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  have that kind of power, you know, in large part
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  due to he just has, like, he has no legs. Like,
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  you know, in the Chisora fight, like, you know,
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  like, you could tell his legs were just completely
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  shot. Like, he was hitting, you know, Chisora
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  with, like, with some stuff that, you know, if
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  that was Brian Wilder landing that, yeah, he
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  probably would have slept Chisora, but he just
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  can't generate that kind of power anymore. Yeah.
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  Little chicken legs. Yeah. Sounds about right.
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  Shakur Stevenson is allegedly finalizing a deal
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  with Zufa. oh man fucking yeah just yeah just
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  just when um you know i guess your core stocks
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  you know were like um you know they were really
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  picking up with the teofimo yeah yeah they were
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  yeah they were they were really picking up yeah
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  like like you know people were like kind of starting
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  to forget um about the uh uh the de los santos
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  fight but then you know this happens man i don't
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  know um i think zufa is overestimating what a
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  draw shakur stevenson is i think this is just
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  gonna bleed money from zufa and i don't really
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  like shakur so yeah yeah i mean shakur he he
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  like uh he is a draw he he um um like uh he he
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  does sell he sells new work really well yeah
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  he sells new work really well he he sells um
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  but if they put him on paramount plus people
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  aren't gonna buy paramount plus to watch secure
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  to watch your court yeah probably not um but
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  you know like kind of like my you know like part
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  of my cope is that um You know, it's not just
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  Shakur that, like, has these rumors, right? It's
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  also Haney, right, has these rumors. You know,
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  apparently he signed to Sufa. And then I know
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  Bill, you know, he put out that, like, cryptic
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  tweet. $100 million deal or whatever. Yeah, $100
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  million deal, which, you know, like, that was
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  all we got. You know, part of my cope is, you
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  know, hey, maybe these guys just see, hey, you
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  know, with... um i don't know like with the riyadh
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  season you know like money kind of drying up
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  you know we'll just go to sufa which is i mean
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  it's the same thing just the different name we'll
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  just you know like be there go there and dip
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  um but i don't know because because uh uh uh
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  a sofa you know like there's actually doing the
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  same thing that uh the re -out season was doing
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  you know when they first came to the picture
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  just grossly overpay uh these guys same thing
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  matrim did when they matrim usa when they did
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  it yeah pdc did it yeah i'm all for them just
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  going and bleeding zufa going yeah yeah because
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  get your money exactly exactly you know like
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  i mean i i i can't imagine you know what you
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  know if they're paying connor ben 15 million
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  for one fight for one fight i would imagine you
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  know shakur at least what like 25 for one fight
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  you know or maybe maybe closer neighborhood of
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  20 um i don't know um but yeah i i i hope that's
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  you know there's at least some truth to that
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  too. Hey, you know, they're just paying big money
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  for whatever reason. Obviously we're going to
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  take it. Hmm. Is this going to pay big money?
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  Marat Garcia versus Tony Yoka in negotiations.
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  I have a simple answer. No, this is not going
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  to pay big money. Oh, come on. Tony Yoka is a
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  very big French draw. Yes? How many French boxing
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  fans are there, though? One. At least one. There's
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  at least one French boxing fan, yeah. Honestly,
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  I... I first heard of Yoka like last year. I've
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  never heard of him before and I don't think I've
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  even looked him up but honestly just give me
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  Gassi of KO in that fight. His last fight with
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  Buliv was like, it was just too legendary. Pulev's
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  a million years old, though. Yeah, and I think
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  the funniest thing about that fight is that Gassiev
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  is like 10 years younger than Pulev, but he looked
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  like he was the same age as Pulev. And then he
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  just KO'd him out of nowhere, yeah. That was
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  just a mean fight. you know, um, I mean, once
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  again, um, um, who's six resume just, just, just
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  keeps aging, uh, aging. Well, uh, well, Dimitri
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  Beeble versus Callum Smith ordered by the WBO,
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  uh, after the Eifert fight, of course, but yeah,
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  um, this, I don't see this going well for Callum
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  Smith for whatever it might count. Sorry. My
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  only... Your Liverpudlian bro is going down.
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  Yeah. My only cope for this is Bivol might be
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  fucked after the back surgery. True. That is
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  a very good point. Like, Callum Smith isn't great,
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  but he's pretty solid. And if Beevil can't move
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  like he usually does, he might have a chance.
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  Yeah, no. Honestly, I think Beevil has a bionic
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  exoskeleton now. I feel like we're going to see
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  the best of him. A better Beevil? Yeah, exactly.
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  i feel like i'm the the the the only one that
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  believes that like um um you know i keep saying
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  um in the uh the the discord that um uh yeah
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  he's gonna pull up with like um that like um
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  exoskeleton from from that movie uh what's it
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  called with matt damon um elysium yeah yeah Yeah,
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  he's going to pull up with that. I mean, it would
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  be pretty cool if B -Ball was fighting at, like,
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  80 % before because his back hurt, and now it's
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  fixed. Yeah. But I don't think that's how back
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  surgery works. Yeah. You know, we'll have to
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  wait and see, definitely. But, I mean, I just
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  hope that, like, this... I hope the order doesn't
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  go through. Right, because I want to see Benavidez
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  versus Bivol next. And I'm pretty sure if that
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  fight is next. I know Benavidez has said recently
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  in an interview that his team and Bivol's team,
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  that they've had talks before, you know, to make
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  that fight. But obviously, right, they're waiting
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  for Bivol to get through his next fight. And
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  I feel like, you know, if you have an undisputed
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  fight, the WBO will probably say, all right,
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  well, you know, like we're not going to. We won't
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  enforce the mandatory if you're going to be having
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  a major event. Yeah, so. But, well, yeah, we'll
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  have to wait and see how B -Bowl looks. Will
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  we have to wait and see Pitbull Cruz? is moving
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  to the Eddie Reynoso camp. Will we have to wait
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  and see? How soon does Pitbull pop for PEDs?
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  Right after his... His first fucking fight with
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  the Reynoso camp. He's gonna pop. Yeah, and he's
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  probably gonna pop for something diabolical.
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  Yeah, something like... I don't know, something
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  insane. Yeah. Pitbull's gonna be looking like
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  those dogs with the double muscling gene mutation.
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  Yeah. Yeah, like, you know, ever since he had,
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  like, you know, ever since he moved up to 140,
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  right, he hasn't had, you know, the same kind
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  of power that he had at 135, and, you know, first
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  fight with Reynoso, all of a sudden, he just
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  starts sleeping. Sleeping, guys. I wonder why,
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  you know. Oh, do we wonder? It's like everybody,
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  when they move to the Reynoso camp, ends up popping.
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  This isn't new. Yordenis Ugas versus Jesus Lopez.
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  This will be taking place on the PBC card. I
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  didn't see a date, but it's more of a matter
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  of like this. He's Cuban, like 38, we'll say.
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  Your Dennis Ugas? So... Which Jesus Lopez is
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  this? That is a fantastic question. Because there's
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  a fucking million of them come up when you pop
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  it in BoxRec. Is he the Argentinian? I honestly
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  don't know. Here, let me pull up BoxRec right
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  now. Because even Argentinian doesn't narrow
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  it down either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's fighting
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  this 16 -17 guy, Ugas, from Mexico. Oh, okay.
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  Yeah, and he's lost his last three fights, so
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  that's who Ugas is facing. They're trying to
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  recycle Ugas. Yeah, and then, like, damn, this
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  guy's only 25, and he's 16 and 17. 16 -17 already.
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  So Uga should be able to win this one. He's a
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  journeyman. This is what he does as he comes
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  in to lose. Yeah. Damn. Journeyman at 25. I saw
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  this quote and I wanted to get your input on
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  it. It goes, this is from Max Kellerman. I already
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  disagree. if Dubois beats Atalma, I don't care
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  who he's lost to, he's earned it. That is like
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  being the top heavyweight. Yeah, I mean, I, I,
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  I, um, I get why he's saying that, but, um, I
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  feel like, you know, um, like, okay, let's say,
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  You know, Dubois' next fight and Itama's next
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  fight is, you know, like them, right? They fight
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  each other and that happens. I don't know, right?
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  Itama hasn't, like, you know, clearly he's, you
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  know, he's a talent. He's clearly, like, the
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  future. of the the heavyweight division like
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  i don't think you know anyone is gonna deny that
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  but um like at the same time you know um he still
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  is technically a prospect um even though you
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  know uh like he's tom is just in a very tough
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  position right he's in a weight class that is
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  not um that is not very deep when you know where
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  the level of opposition jumps from you know journeyman
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  um to like you know straight to like b -level
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  um guys like you know for like in the context
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  of like the the heavyweights right there really
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  isn't anyone in between um so it's kind of hard
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  to match make them um but yeah if they fought
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  next he'd be atalma's first real test And if
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  he beats Atauma next, it's Atauma moving too
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  fast. It's Atauma, yeah. Would be the argument.
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  100%. It would be Atauma moving too fast. Yeah,
• 30:04
  because, I mean, Atauma -Dubois next is a massive,
• 30:10
  massive jump up in class. That's like, you know,
• 30:16
  Berlanga going from the, you know... what's his
• 30:22
  fake patrick mcrory to freaking canelo like like
• 30:27
  that kind of level of like jump up in competition
• 30:31
  um maybe not to the same magnitude but it's along
• 30:37
  those lines um you know i feel like in a few
• 30:42
  years um you know if that happens then I would
• 30:49
  agree with that quote. Yeah, but not right now.
• 30:54
  Yeah. If it happens in a few years and Atama
• 31:00
  beats Dubois, would it be that Dubois is too
• 31:03
  old? Probably. It would depend how Dubois looks
• 31:09
  over the next few years. Yeah. Yeah, and then
• 31:17
  um i mean dubois he's he's what he's like 28
• 31:20
  29 um and um somewhere around there he's i i
• 31:25
  know he's not 30 he's not he's not 30 yet um
• 31:28
  i believe uh probably wrong uh i should uh he's
• 31:35
  28 Yeah, he's 20. And then, you know, he's a
• 31:39
  heavyweight. So he has he has a lot of career.
• 31:43
  There's a lot of career left. So Luis Ortiz is
• 31:46
  almost 50 Cuban. Make of that what you will.
• 31:52
  Yeah. The Talma Luis. Yeah. But yeah, that's
• 32:00
  I don't know. I guess that's my take. You know,
• 32:02
  the quote. If the Wabi Tatama now, no, I don't
• 32:07
  agree. If he does in a few years, yeah, can't
• 32:11
  really argue against it. Can you argue against
• 32:18
  Rawley announcing his retirement, citing failed
• 32:23
  fights, what he referred to as ducks? I really
• 32:32
  think this is just a marketing move. This is
• 32:35
  Rolly's way of getting someone to fight him.
• 32:38
  Yeah, this is bullshit. I don't agree with it
• 32:40
  either. Or I agree with you guys, like, this
• 32:43
  isn't real. I don't think it's real. Yeah, like,
• 32:46
  in retiring, you know, like, you know, what he
• 32:51
  is saying about, you know, yeah, the fight's
• 32:53
  falling true, like, yeah, that is real, right?
• 32:56
  He had the, you know, the pacquiao fight i think
• 33:03
  that was in talks it it felt garcia rematch was
• 33:07
  in talks haney was in talks so that's three like
• 33:12
  you know really big paydays that yeah they they
• 33:15
  didn't end up falling through for you know whatever
• 33:18
  reason we don't really know the details right
• 33:20
  and um uh like um i'm assuming you know that
• 33:25
  that um that happens with with other fighters
• 33:29
  that are you know like relatively high profile
• 33:33
  in terms of like name uh recognition or something
• 33:36
  right they just have fights fall through all
• 33:39
  the time but um i mean those three in particular
• 33:42
  are pretty you know pretty significant um especially
• 33:44
  for like a guy like rolly right because i mean
• 33:49
  rolly's not you know the most uh um i don't know
• 33:53
  uh like uh marketable stable yeah guy out there.
• 34:02
  But yeah, I don't know. I doubt he's actually
• 34:10
  retiring. Yeah, this whole using retiring as
• 34:17
  a strategy to get fights is becoming very common
• 34:21
  and it annoys me. It's all Fury's fault. Yeah,
• 34:26
  I was going to say that that's the Tyson Fury
• 34:30
  strat. It does bear mentioning if that's the
• 34:36
  case. We'll see if it actually holds or not,
• 34:41
  but Usyk did say, when I retire, I'm done. Like,
• 34:47
  I'm completely retired. I believe Usyk. I believe
• 34:50
  him. I believe Terence Crawford, to be honest,
• 34:53
  as well. I was just going to say, I think Crawford's
• 34:56
  also done done. When they say they're done, they're
• 34:59
  fucking finished. But they never threatened it
• 35:04
  before. They never talked about retiring before.
• 35:08
  Like, even casually, like, I think I might. They
• 35:11
  were just... Yeah, they just had to... Crawford
• 35:19
  at least, right? Yeah, he just had the Canelo
• 35:20
  fight and then said, all right, I'm done. Just
• 35:23
  hung him up. Oh, interesting position change.
• 35:32
  Well, I don't know if it's a change, but Bam,
• 35:35
  he himself has said if he wins the 118 title,
• 35:39
  the bantamweight title that he has coming up,
• 35:42
  the title fight he has coming up in June. That
• 35:46
  he's staying at bantamweight. Bam has put on
• 35:51
  a shit ton of muscle. I think he knows it's going
• 35:54
  to be hard to lose those extra three pounds.
• 35:57
  Yeah, he has looked pretty yoked his last few
• 36:07
  fights at 115. Especially compared to when he
• 36:14
  was fighting Quadrus and Rungvisai. I can tell
• 36:23
  he's put on muscle mass since then. He's manning
• 36:28
  up. Back at that time when he was fighting Rungvisai
• 36:33
  and Quadrus, he was still a teenager. He was
• 36:35
  still a little boy. Now he's getting into his
• 36:39
  man strength. Yeah, because he's like, he's 25
• 36:43
  now. Like, so, you know, he's, yeah, like, you
• 36:51
  know, he's definitely, he's like growing with
• 36:55
  15. And I also think that's just a better move
• 36:57
  for his career. I know Robert, you know, he had
• 37:01
  talks of, you know, oh, this is just going to
• 37:04
  be, you know, we'll just get a title fight, you
• 37:07
  know, just to. you know, to keep Bam active and
• 37:12
  then we'll go back down to, you know, fight the
• 37:15
  winner. Undisputed, right? Undisputed fight,
• 37:18
  but, you know, that's just too much, like, you
• 37:22
  know, back and forth. It's just better to, you
• 37:25
  know, just stay. Yeah, exactly. Just stay at
• 37:29
  118 and then fight the guys there. You know,
• 37:33
  he could, because I think Bam, you know, I don't
• 37:36
  think anyone at 118 really, poses a threat to
• 37:40
  him I think he'll you know he can be undisputed
• 37:44
  at 118 I think he can clear out the division
• 37:47
  I think so too and it makes me sad because that's
• 37:50
  where all my favorite fighters are I want Bam
• 37:53
  to jump it and just go fight Nakatani it's a
• 37:57
  stupid move and I wouldn't normally say it but
• 38:00
  I don't want to see Bam kill Seiya Tsutsumi Tsutsumi
• 38:04
  yeah He would fucking murder him. That's what
• 38:09
  I was thinking was the... You're not going to
• 38:13
  like it, but the one fight that I think that...
• 38:15
  Of the 118 guys, the one that does give him possibly
• 38:19
  the most trouble is Tenshin Asakawa. Just because
• 38:23
  he has... Sam fucking kills Tenshin. I don't
• 38:26
  know if he kills him, but... Honestly, I think
• 38:30
  Takuma might be a hard fight for Bam. Why do
• 38:34
  you think Nasukawa gives Bam trouble? I think
• 38:36
  that he has a similar skill set in that he uses
• 38:43
  a lot of his footwork to make advantageous positions.
• 38:49
  But he doesn't have the power to keep Bam away.
• 38:53
  That's the key point. I think that he has the
• 38:58
  finesse to maybe give him a little bit of trouble.
• 39:02
  But I'm not saying that Tenshin beats Bam by
• 39:06
  any stretch. Like, no fucking way. But I think
• 39:11
  that of the 118 guys, I think Tenshin does give
• 39:14
  him trouble. I think somebody, someone mentioned
• 39:17
  Takuma. I think Takuma will be his hardest fight
• 39:21
  at 118. And I think Bam wins it. But I think
• 39:24
  Takuma will be the hardest. Same, yeah. I think
• 39:28
  that'll be, yeah, the guy that gets the most
• 39:29
  trouble. But, you know. But I still think Bam
• 39:32
  wins that, you know, like... I know Potha, in
• 39:39
  a way, has been studying Bam in preparation for
• 39:42
  a Naoya fight. I think they'll have a good strategy
• 39:45
  against Bam with Takuma. Yeah, but that's a different
• 39:51
  skill set that you're having to employ to try
• 39:53
  to beat Bam. Right, but I think he's good at
• 39:58
  using his boy's skills separately now. He hadn't
• 40:02
  been, but I think he's figured it out. How to
• 40:04
  use Takuma better. Yeah, Takuma's skills. Because
• 40:09
  he was trying to make Takuma fight like Naoya,
• 40:11
  and it wasn't working. But I think he's figured
• 40:15
  out the difference, and he's been studying Bam's
• 40:18
  skill set. I just think that will be the hardest
• 40:21
  fight. Yeah, like... I mean, Takuma, yeah, he's,
• 40:26
  he's definitely become like his, yeah, he's become
• 40:28
  his like, um, own, um, I guess distinct fighter,
• 40:33
  you know, you know, from Naoya, like he's, um,
• 40:37
  you know, kind of, he's kind of the opposite
• 40:39
  really, you know, he's like, uh, you know, um,
• 40:43
  um, I guess you could say, uh, like a back foot,
• 40:46
  more of a back foot boxer, which is like, um,
• 40:49
  that's pretty unheard of in Japan, but, um, A
• 40:53
  boxer in general is pretty fucking unheard of.
• 40:58
  Yeah, but I mean, you know, I mean, in the tension
• 41:06
  fight, you know, he had trouble in the first
• 41:10
  two rounds, but then Takuma figured out the distance
• 41:13
  and just outclassed tension. And then in the
• 41:17
  last fight... yeah takuma's last fight uh who
• 41:25
  was it i um i forgot his opponent it like slipped
• 41:30
  my mind uh who did he fight on that card i also
• 41:36
  i'm so bad at names here um takuma's last fight
• 41:44
  against um oh it was ioka that's why i forgot
• 41:48
  It's Ioka, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I erased
• 41:51
  it from my memory. Yeah, yeah. And then in that
• 41:58
  fight too, you know, like, I mean, he didn't
• 42:04
  get, you know, pulled into a firefight. He stayed,
• 42:06
  you know, he stayed disciplined. Disciplined,
• 42:09
  so. Yeah, well, and Ioka's just old and slow
• 42:12
  and two weight classes higher than he should
• 42:15
  be. Yeah, that's also true, but. But, you know...
• 42:20
  But you were talking about footwork, Leo. Yes.
• 42:25
  Takuma's got good footwork. He does. Yeah. I
• 42:29
  didn't think about the intangibles, like you
• 42:32
  had mentioned, the better coaching. Yeah, because
• 42:36
  I do think the coaching in the Inoue camp has
• 42:40
  gotten better over time. Specifically for Takuma.
• 42:43
  Like, the coaching for Naoya has always been
• 42:46
  there. But I think Takuma's getting his own time
• 42:51
  and his own strategies. Yeah, I think you're
• 42:54
  right. Yeah, like, I mean, his dad, he's, like,
• 42:59
  yeah, his dad is, like, playing, he's playing
• 43:03
  more into his strengths because, I mean, I also
• 43:08
  imagine that, like, that the part of the coaching,
• 43:17
  for no yeah it's just like um hey just like you
• 43:20
  know go and like um knock him out or something
• 43:23
  and then no you say oh okay and he just does
• 43:25
  it like it's just that you know like just go
• 43:28
  knock yeah yeah like stupid yeah like i'm like
• 43:30
  like exactly yeah the uh the lopez yeah you gotta
• 43:36
  hit him bro but like no yeah he like actually
• 43:40
  like he doesn't he actually does yeah he actually
• 43:47
  we gotta keep it rolling we got two last bits
• 43:51
  Oslis Iglesias is in the works this is on the
• 43:56
  rumor mill facing Carlos Adamas Adamas like the
• 44:02
  fucking the brass set on this fellow to be coming
• 44:06
  up from 160 and stepping straight up to The guy.
• 44:13
  At 168. Canelo be damned. All the other title
• 44:18
  holders be damned. Iglesias is the fucking man
• 44:20
  at 168. And Adamas is stepping straight up. That
• 44:25
  is a. That's a really fun fight. Like. I mean.
• 44:33
  Yeah. I. You know with Janabek out of the picture.
• 44:37
  At 160 now. I mean there's. there really isn't
• 44:41
  any reason Adames should stay, you know, at a
• 44:45
  160, you know, 168. Again, like I said, you know,
• 44:51
  it's a super hot, super hot division right now.
• 44:55
  I do think he'll be pretty undersized, especially
• 45:00
  considering almost everyone at 168 is like, you
• 45:05
  know, just huge for the weight class. But he,
• 45:08
  you know, Adames, he has, you know enough he's
• 45:11
  very crafty and he just has yeah he's got finesse
• 45:15
  very crafty um and plus he has he has dog you
• 45:19
  know like um so he he gives you know he he gives
• 45:24
  anyone um at the weight and i mean really he
• 45:29
  already beat shiras so she asked you called him
• 45:34
  that's fantastic but that's uh If that fight
• 45:40
  does end up happening, yeah, that's a really
• 45:43
  fun fight. Like, I could see, you know, it's
• 45:47
  probably, like, the closest, I guess, fight you
• 45:52
  could say of Osley's career. Like, in terms of,
• 46:01
  you know, competitiveness, but I don't know.
• 46:04
  I still think he would take it, but yeah, fun
• 46:07
  fight. Last bit. We have the announcement of
• 46:19
  a Pro Box card. Just the fights that I have so
• 46:24
  far. I don't have the weight classes, to be honest
• 46:27
  with you. But we got Brian Flores vs. Jonathan
• 46:30
  Navarro. Joshua Anton vs. Vladimir Hernandez.
• 46:33
  The WBC Super Flyweight Champ, Adelita Ruiz vs.
• 46:39
  Ginny Isisfuchis. What's that? Is that like the
• 46:45
  sound you make when something smells? Yeah, like...
• 46:50
  Fucci. Fucci, yeah. Something smells. Ruben Aguilar
• 46:58
  versus Treshawn Wiggins. Anthony Cuba versus
• 47:02
  Misael Cabrera. Charles Harris versus Jason Limon.
• 47:09
  That's it for the news. Oh, boy. I have something
• 47:16
  I heard that I don't think we talked about. Provox
• 47:19
  is going to Germany. Is that on? Holy shit. Are
• 47:23
  you serious? When? Yeah. Everything just says
• 47:27
  Saturday. This Saturday? This Saturday? Yeah,
• 47:33
  do just Google Provox Boxing in Germany. Probox
• 47:43
  TV offers bonus content Saturday headlined by
• 47:47
  a meeting of top 10 junior middleweight contenders
• 47:49
  in Germany and then a Mexico card topped by Luis
• 47:54
  Nunez. I guess they got the rights to broadcast
• 48:02
  a Germany card last minute. That's what I'm seeing
• 48:05
  too. But I'm still excited. I think it'll be
• 48:09
  fun. Yeah, it's pretty big moves for Provox.
• 48:17
  Yeah, well, and the German crowds, from what
• 48:20
  I've seen, have been great. Yeah, they're...
• 48:23
  They are hype for their boxers. The German crowds
• 48:27
  are, like, absolutely insane. Yeah, when... Like,
• 48:34
  for the Caballel versus... i i i forgot who he
• 48:39
  fought doesn't matter i know exactly what fight
• 48:42
  you're talking about it doesn't matter who he
• 48:44
  was fighting yeah it was so like like um uh every
• 48:47
  time caballo landed anything it was so loud that
• 48:50
  you could not hear the commentators like that's
• 48:53
  how loud it was in in the uh of the venue Yeah,
• 48:58
  I don't really care if it's not Pro Box matchmaking.
• 49:02
  I'm going to tune in just for the German atmosphere.
• 49:05
  I know this podcast is coming out after it happens,
• 49:08
  but I guess we need to add that to next week's
• 49:12
  recaps, Leo, because I'm going to watch. Yeah,
• 49:17
  if Pro Box picked it up, then there has to be
• 49:21
  some semblance of competent matchmaking. Yeah.
• 49:28
  Yeah, well, it does say that it's headlined by
• 49:30
  two top ten guys, so... Sounds good to me. Probox
• 49:38
  spreading out around the world, I think, can
• 49:42
  only be a good thing. I want Probox to do well.
• 49:45
  Yeah. Probox, good. Yeah, we... We need Yakubank
• 49:51
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  All right. Into the recaps. First thing, Friday,
• 53:20
  May 15th, the German ARD put on a fucking spectacle.
• 53:30
  They had magic shows. They had rap artists. They
• 53:35
  had everything. And all that I really cared about
• 53:40
  was the thing that they just refused to show
• 53:43
  until the very end. Patti Donovan getting the
• 53:47
  majority decision over Karen Chikadzian. Wow.
• 53:52
  That being a majority decision is a fucking travesty.
• 53:56
  That is... Actually, like, yeah, I mean, just
• 54:04
  no words. That wasn't, I mean, that wasn't a
• 54:11
  close fight. At all. Patty Donovan got two knockdowns
• 54:17
  and outboxed him. The whole time. The whole time.
• 54:21
  And, I mean, like, you know, yeah, the second
• 54:25
  knockdown was, not a knockdown but like you know
• 54:29
  it's it's like whatever you know um like karen
• 54:34
  he he got um he got outboxed um by patty patty
• 54:41
  donovan like damn yeah patty was just landing
• 54:45
  counter shots and yeah he just outclassed him
• 54:50
  and he needed that second knockdown on one of
• 54:53
  the cards too Or else it would have been a split
• 54:56
  draw, I think. Which is madness. Yeah, he needed
• 55:00
  that knockdown. But that's just like... I don't
• 55:09
  know. That whole fight for me was like a surreal
• 55:12
  experience. So I watched the fight on a Costco
• 55:18
  parking lot. Because I was like... um i don't
• 55:25
  know i was like you know um i don't know about
• 55:28
  and i was hungry i was like oh i'll just stop
• 55:31
  by like the costco food court i was checking
• 55:32
  discord um you know my plan was i'll eat something
• 55:35
  go back home to watch the fight but i was like
• 55:38
  oh wait it's happening right now okay let me
• 55:41
  get my food go back to my car and then i just
• 55:44
  watched it on my phone um and you know in my
• 55:47
  car on my phone i was like oh my god i'm watching
• 55:51
  patty donovan like uh outboxed Karen. What is
• 55:57
  going on right now? Donovan isn't bad. He's not
• 56:04
  very good either. He's not that bad. He's not
• 56:08
  terrible. He's better than Karen. He was better
• 56:14
  than Lewis Crocker before he got disqualified.
• 56:17
  Yeah. And then even the second fight, I mean,
• 56:24
  I was kind of watching it. I was like half watching
• 56:27
  the second fight. I know Donovan, I know he got
• 56:31
  dropped twice there. But I don't think Crocker
• 56:36
  won many rounds outside of the knockdown rounds.
• 56:41
  Unless I'm just, you know, I have watched it.
• 56:45
  Like I was half watching it. But I think a lot
• 56:49
  of people also thought that Donovan still won
• 56:52
  that second Crocker fight. It's arguable, I would
• 56:58
  say. Yeah. It was close enough to where you could
• 57:08
  argue that Donovan won. I don't know, just, like,
• 57:16
  the past, like, two or so years of boxing have
• 57:20
  just been, like, we've just been having these,
• 57:23
  like, just hilarious upsets, you know, with,
• 57:29
  like, fights. You know, we got Saras, you know,
• 57:34
  KOing Munguia. David Morel. Yeah, David Morel
• 57:41
  getting KO'd by a substitute teacher. um patty
• 57:45
  donovan um uh you know outboxing karen dalton
• 57:52
  smith ko wing super matias it's just been uh
• 57:57
  you know we're in the the upset era and i love
• 58:01
  it i love a good upset oh let's keep it rolling
• 58:07
  saturday may 16th uh this is more of a shenada
• 58:13
  pick But Siya Kolwa Siya Kolwa Kuse gets the
• 58:21
  UD over Melvin Jerusalem. I couldn't find this
• 58:25
  one to watch. I couldn't either. But I am fucking
• 58:27
  disappointed. Come on Melvin. The Filipino unification
• 58:34
  party is officially cancelled. And it's the rematch
• 58:39
  too. Jerusalem won the first one pretty easily,
• 58:44
  I thought. Cards were close. Yeah, he dropped
• 58:47
  the close one, so you could argue for the rubber
• 58:50
  match in this case. Yeah, well, and it's minimum
• 58:55
  weight, so it probably happened. But yeah, my
• 59:00
  dreams of the Filipino unification fight are
• 59:04
  fucking gashed. Goddamn. That's Jerusalem versus
• 59:09
  Tataran, right? They missed the timing anyways.
• 59:15
  They should have done it on the 50th anniversary
• 59:17
  of the Rumble in the Jungle or whatever. Or Thrilla
• 59:21
  in Manila. Whatever that Ali card was called.
• 59:26
  Yeah, that one fight that happened between the
• 59:32
  two guys. You guys know what I'm talking about.
• 59:37
  They did that special event. in manila for the
• 59:43
  the uh anniversary and jerusalem and tataran
• 59:48
  both had belts and they both fought on the card
• 59:52
  but not each other it was stupid they should
• 59:57
  have done the unification yeah and now it's dead
• 1:00:00
  now it's dead forever because jerusalem can't
• 1:00:04
  get his together Moving on to Queensberry on
• 1:00:12
  DAZN. This was certainly a card. The co -main
• 1:00:23
  was pretty fun. Yes. What was funny, I don't
• 1:00:27
  remember who it was. I wish I could. If I did,
• 1:00:30
  I would shout them out. But somebody had said
• 1:00:34
  Michael Gomez Jr. is the bad boy of British boxing.
• 1:00:41
  That sounds like Saul. No, it was not Saul. It
• 1:00:46
  wasn't Saul? No. I mean, it's probably true.
• 1:00:50
  It's possible. I just found the whole phrase
• 1:00:54
  to be really humorous. The bad boy. The bad boy
• 1:01:01
  of British boxing. He was like... air humping
• 1:01:06
  the crowd and yelling at them yeah he he certainly
• 1:01:10
  was doing bad boy stuff i so i guess i guess
• 1:01:15
  it's valid but um let's see here uh carl fail
• 1:01:21
  who i just great name dog uh he gets the points
• 1:01:28
  decision the scoring referee decision over dean
• 1:01:31
  sutherland So isn't that nice? You did not fail
• 1:01:37
  this time, dog. Yeah, see, that's the... He's
• 1:01:47
  called Carl Fail because his opponents, you know,
• 1:01:50
  they go into the fight saying, well, this guy
• 1:01:53
  is obviously going to fail. I don't have to worry
• 1:01:55
  about it. He's a jobber. They don't prepare.
• 1:01:58
  Exactly. They don't prepare as they should, and
• 1:02:01
  he doesn't fail. He succeeds. Like, let's see.
• 1:02:09
  He's 12 -0. I guarantee you if he was named Carl
• 1:02:12
  Success, he would be 0 -12. Man, Filip Hergovich
• 1:02:21
  stops David Allen in three. I don't know who
• 1:02:29
  thought, like, who thought of this? Like, who
• 1:02:34
  came up to Frank and said, hey, we need, we,
• 1:02:43
  yes, we need Filip Hergovich versus Dave Allen.
• 1:02:49
  Dave Allen did. What were they thinking? I really
• 1:02:56
  don't know, man. David Allen is fucking just
• 1:03:00
  ass. His next fight's already been announced.
• 1:03:06
  I did not put that in the notes, but yeah, his
• 1:03:09
  next fight is in June. Yeah. I mean, Allen, yeah,
• 1:03:15
  he made Herkovich look like a vicious power puncher
• 1:03:19
  when that is... you know that couldn't be farther
• 1:03:23
  from the truth ergovich is supposed to be a you
• 1:03:28
  know like stand up jab jab you know one two one
• 1:03:33
  two guy but he just yeah i think what was the
• 1:03:36
  third round he just said he just said okay you
• 1:03:39
  know what i just want to go home i'm just gonna
• 1:03:41
  get this guy out of here and he just started
• 1:03:43
  throwing every just started throwing everything
• 1:03:45
  just haymakers like yeah i i don't know what
• 1:03:49
  they were thinking man Like, pointless fight.
• 1:03:53
  Yeah, this is a bit of a rip -off for the British
• 1:03:59
  crowd. Yeah, and then it was like... Because
• 1:04:02
  people will come out for Dave Allen. Yeah, and
• 1:04:05
  it was a pretty big step down in opposition for
• 1:04:10
  Herkovich from, you know, he fought David Adelaide
• 1:04:14
  before. And, you know, I mean, at least Adelaide
• 1:04:20
  has power. And, I mean, what was it? I think
• 1:04:25
  it was the eighth or ninth round of their fight.
• 1:04:28
  That was, like, an insane round. You remember,
• 1:04:31
  right? Adelaide got dropped, like, by showboating.
• 1:04:36
  And then Adelaide almost had Hergovich out of
• 1:04:39
  there. That was an insane round. That was the
• 1:04:41
  only, like, the only exciting part of that fight.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah, no, it was... This was just taking advantage
• 1:04:50
  of British fans. Of British fans, yeah. They
• 1:04:55
  said, hey, look, Dave Allen, you want to get
• 1:05:00
  paid at Hergovich? I guess you just need to be
• 1:05:02
  in the ring, get a win. Yeah, but pointless fight.
• 1:05:08
  Like a gross mismatch. At least the co -main
• 1:05:12
  was fun. They got to see something. I got to
• 1:05:16
  see the bad boy of British boxing. The bad boy
• 1:05:19
  of British boxing. There's something, though,
• 1:05:22
  that you need to understand about... David Allen
• 1:05:27
  is from Doncaster, and it's important to point
• 1:05:31
  out that the Doncaster Football Club is in the
• 1:05:37
  relegation zone of Tier 3. That means... They
• 1:05:43
  lose so often they're about to be relegated to
• 1:05:47
  Tier 4. Now, what happens is Doncaster FC fans,
• 1:05:56
  that is Doncaster sports fans, often find themselves
• 1:06:01
  saying, well, they gave it a go. They lost 4
• 1:06:10
  -0, but they gave it a go. Dave Allen didn't
• 1:06:14
  even give this a go, though. Yeah, he didn't
• 1:06:17
  even give it a go. That's the thing about David
• 1:06:19
  Allen fans is that they're Doncaster sports fans.
• 1:06:24
  So they're okay with watching him lose over and
• 1:06:29
  over and over again because they're used to it.
• 1:06:35
  Just really shaking that fist like, yep, he gave
• 1:06:40
  it a go. He gave it a go. To be honest, I would
• 1:06:44
  also go out to see Dave Allen if it was cheap,
• 1:06:47
  just because him boxing means he's not going
• 1:06:50
  to die in the next year. Probably. He has upgraded
• 1:06:57
  from pissing in jugs to pissing in the sink.
• 1:06:59
  So being busy with boxing is clearly good for
• 1:07:03
  him. Well, he gave it a go. He gave it a go.
• 1:07:09
  As I shake my fist in the most supportive and
• 1:07:14
  enthusiastic way, he gave it a go. Jesus Christ.
• 1:07:23
  I came up with that during... We fleshed out
• 1:07:27
  the idea during B -Sides. That'll be coming out
• 1:07:32
  in a few days from this. Just had to get that
• 1:07:39
  one in there. Doncaster sports fans, they're
• 1:07:42
  just used to it. They're used to watching their
• 1:07:44
  boy just get fucking wrecked. And it's just okay.
• 1:07:51
  They're just okay with it. Let's go to top rank,
• 1:08:00
  also on DAZN at the Scope Arena. In Norfolk.
• 1:08:06
  Not in DAZN in Japan for some reason. Yeah. How
• 1:08:11
  does it feel? How does it feel? Yeah. To miss.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah. We didn't get Jen Sasaki over here, so.
• 1:08:21
  We didn't get like the good parts of the fucking
• 1:08:24
  Japanese card, but. But now you have to pay for
• 1:08:30
  your crimes with this. Oh, no, I missed Keyshawn
• 1:08:34
  Davis. How terrible. Going from the bottom up,
• 1:08:40
  we have Dedrick Crocklam gets the UD over Eric
• 1:08:45
  Howard. He was impressive. I would actually like
• 1:08:51
  to draw this parallel. In the same way that Tension
• 1:08:54
  is impressive. He's athletic. He has fantastic
• 1:09:00
  footwork. But he lacks power. And that will end
• 1:09:05
  up being his downfall. And then that's... Yeah,
• 1:09:11
  so I didn't watch this whole card. So I have
• 1:09:15
  Box Strike pulled up on Dedrick. And it's funny
• 1:09:20
  you mention that because his nickname is Young
• 1:09:23
  Hitta. Y -U -N -G. That is the worst nickname
• 1:09:28
  ever. Y -U -N -G -H -I -T -T -A. That has to
• 1:09:34
  be like a top nickname. That's so funny. It would
• 1:09:37
  be good if he was like a knockout artist. It
• 1:09:40
  would be good. Yeah, if he was actually a Young
• 1:09:45
  Hitta. Yeah, it would be pretty. well to his
• 1:09:51
  credit he does do a fair amount of hitta ink
• 1:09:55
  he does a good amount of it it's just like it
• 1:09:59
  it's not very like effective powerful yeah it's
• 1:10:03
  not very powerful yeah it's all right deadrick
• 1:10:07
  you're like i'm still gonna watch so you're good
• 1:10:12
  dog just keep doing what you're doing uh keon
• 1:10:16
  davis gets the ud over edwin humane jr so isn't
• 1:10:22
  that nice uh kelvin davis split decision over
• 1:10:27
  peter dobson like you split decision dude oh
• 1:10:30
  yeah i i this fight i did see um and yeah that
• 1:10:35
  was uh i mean um i don't know uh disappointing
• 1:10:40
  uh performance um is Well, I don't know. I don't
• 1:10:49
  want to say disappointing performances and understatement,
• 1:10:52
  but like, you know. Underwhelming. Underwhelming.
• 1:10:57
  Yeah, it's very underwhelming performance. Peter
• 1:11:01
  Dobson is a Connor Ben victim. You know, I'll
• 1:11:08
  just leave it at that. Like, you don't need to
• 1:11:12
  be having. close fights with this kind of opponent.
• 1:11:18
  The last time Kelvin Davis had an underwhelming
• 1:11:22
  performance, Keyshawn Davis threw a fucking baby
• 1:11:26
  at someone. Was there any after -the -fights
• 1:11:32
  drama this time? No. Not this time. Yeah, DB3
• 1:11:43
  was good. This event. They behaved themselves.
• 1:11:52
  Jan Santana got the UD over Christian Cruz. For
• 1:11:58
  being the guy that top rank was very clearly
• 1:12:02
  trying to push, Jan Santana was a bit underwhelming
• 1:12:07
  as well. It was really clear that top rank was
• 1:12:14
  trying to make him out to be their next guy.
• 1:12:18
  You know what I mean? And he just did not fit
• 1:12:21
  the bill. It was a clear win. Without a doubt,
• 1:12:26
  it was a clear win. Yeah, I don't think I watched
• 1:12:34
  this fight either. Who are such a good podcast.
• 1:12:39
  I didn't watch any of them and Dan will only
• 1:12:41
  watch like three. Yeah. But, um, uh, I mean,
• 1:12:47
  yeah. Uh, he's, uh, yeah, he's Dominican, uh,
• 1:12:55
  26. So, I mean, you know, I mean, yeah. Um, I
• 1:13:01
  guess if he didn't, yeah. If he didn't have the
• 1:13:02
  best performance, you know, it, it could be an
• 1:13:05
  opportunity for growth. So that can push him
• 1:13:09
  to that level, I guess, that Tom Frank expects
• 1:13:12
  him to perform at. So it could be, you know...
• 1:13:16
  Good catalyst for change. Yeah, it could be good,
• 1:13:19
  but we'll have to wait and see. Oh, Brian Norman
• 1:13:24
  gets the stoppage in two over Josh Wagner. How
• 1:13:31
  bad of a knockout was it? Now this I watched.
• 1:13:34
  Go on, then. The motherfucker assassin is back,
• 1:13:39
  motherfucker. That's what Norman said in the
• 1:13:45
  post -fighter interview. This was the only way
• 1:13:53
  that this was going to go. This is how Norman
• 1:13:56
  needed to win as well. I mean, knocking out a
• 1:14:00
  33 -year -old Canadian is not an accomplishment.
• 1:14:06
  yeah but um did he get no it's a tko so he didn't
• 1:14:11
  get sasaki or anything hey uh no no he didn't
• 1:14:15
  but it was uh it was it was a very i would say
• 1:14:19
  he really it was very weird um the knockout yeah
• 1:14:25
  it was it was very weird so in the um yeah he
• 1:14:30
  like dropped them uh yeah if i remember correctly
• 1:14:32
  he dropped uh wagner um in the second round and
• 1:14:37
  then while wagner was on the floor he was like
• 1:14:40
  complaining um about his shoulder or something
• 1:14:43
  and then like you know the fight was kind of
• 1:14:45
  like i don't know like put on hold because wagner
• 1:14:50
  was like hey my something's wrong with my shoulder
• 1:14:53
  and the rev was like you just wiped that off
• 1:14:55
  it was it was it was really it was really weird
• 1:14:58
  like um um i think norman he finally figured
• 1:15:01
  out how to do that thing that he said to Henny
• 1:15:04
  during the lead up. I remember Henny said, you
• 1:15:07
  know, I'll hit you so hard on your body that
• 1:15:11
  your meniscus is going to tear off or something.
• 1:15:17
  Oh, like Neoya did to what was the British guy?
• 1:15:23
  Yeah, he broke his back. So, yeah, Norman, Yeah,
• 1:15:32
  he unlocked that ability now. So, I guess. Yeah,
• 1:15:38
  I don't know. Just very strange fight. But, again,
• 1:15:41
  you know, it's what was expected of him. It's
• 1:15:44
  how he needed to win to, you know, again, yeah,
• 1:15:47
  bounce back. And, okay, we can move on with his
• 1:15:50
  career. We can rebuild from here. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:15:54
  But, yeah, I like him. I mean, I don't know.
• 1:15:57
  Yeah, I honestly... I like Norman. Like, like
• 1:16:02
  he's a cool, you know, he's a cool guy. He's
• 1:16:04
  a cool personality. Um, uh, you know, he has
• 1:16:07
  a lot that he can improve on, but, um, uh, like
• 1:16:12
  he's, you know, I don't know. I like him. I want
• 1:16:15
  to see him, uh, uh, um, I want to see, uh, see
• 1:16:20
  him, see him improve. Um, he's a fun fighter.
• 1:16:27
  Well, shall we see the improvement of Keyshawn
• 1:16:30
  Davis getting the UD over Nahir Albright after
• 1:16:34
  a fucking vertical suplex? That was ridiculous.
• 1:16:40
  Honestly, that would be rooms for disqualification.
• 1:16:45
  He got a two -point deduction for it. Yeah, I
• 1:16:49
  know, but I'm just saying, like, if he wasn't
• 1:16:51
  the A side, if he was the B side, he would have
• 1:16:55
  been disqualified. yeah that hey besides all
• 1:16:58
  right yeah i i yeah like i i i i can see that
• 1:17:07
  because if that wasn't like uh you know and and
• 1:17:11
  um that was not accidental um that was like pretty
• 1:17:16
  deliberate from keishon like uh he just you know
• 1:17:20
  soup like yeah i just straight up suplex them
• 1:17:23
  um I mean, he didn't need to. Keyshawn wasn't
• 1:17:29
  in any danger of losing or anything. He was beating
• 1:17:35
  Albright pretty handily. I mean, but... Keyshawn
• 1:17:41
  needs to get his emotions in check. Like, they
• 1:17:44
  keep causing problems for him. Yes, yeah. And
• 1:17:48
  then, you know, I mean, at least this, you know...
• 1:17:54
  at least his emotions got out of whack inside
• 1:17:57
  the ring this time you know so yeah I don't know
• 1:18:04
  I can't get behind Keyshawn Davis because he
• 1:18:07
  keeps doing stupid shit is my summary of my feelings
• 1:18:12
  on Keyshawn Davis yeah yeah but I mean other
• 1:18:19
  than the yeah than the than the suplex um uh
• 1:18:26
  yeah i mean he uh pretty much outclassed uh albright
• 1:18:30
  you know albright he wasn't able to replicate
• 1:18:33
  the you know uh uh the success that he had in
• 1:18:37
  you know their first fight um and actually um
• 1:18:41
  yeah uh stopped albright um in like the last
• 1:18:49
  round so you know um um i guess uh aside from
• 1:18:54
  the suplex yeah it was uh you know good good
• 1:18:57
  performance you know you could say oh he didn't
• 1:18:58
  stop albright but i mean albright he's he's a
• 1:19:02
  you know awkward fighter tough guy um it's it's
• 1:19:07
  hard to get him out of there but yeah keishon
• 1:19:10
  did what he had to do aside from the suplex suplex
• 1:19:14
  aside from suplex yeah aside from The WWE move,
• 1:19:21
  the fight was fine. Yeah, aside from being an
• 1:19:25
  idiot. Like I said, this is why I can't cheer
• 1:19:29
  for Keishon Davis. I will say, in defense of
• 1:19:34
  Keishon, the refereeing was definitely not in
• 1:19:41
  his favor, despite being the A -side. It was
• 1:19:45
  really clear that the referee was allowing Nahir
• 1:19:48
  Albright to get away with a lot of stuff that
• 1:19:54
  Keyshawn was getting warnings for. But that's
• 1:19:59
  what happens when you have a reputation of being
• 1:20:01
  a fucking idiot. They watch you closer. Just...
• 1:20:08
  My observation was... Yeah, but... Yeah, Albright
• 1:20:11
  was... Then he threw a hissy fit and suplexed
• 1:20:14
  the guy. Yeah, Albright was... Yeah, like, um...
• 1:20:17
  I mean, yeah, um... Albright, he was... Yeah,
• 1:20:20
  he was holding... He was holding a lot in the
• 1:20:23
  fight. Um... Like, a lot. But, yeah, Keyshawn...
• 1:20:27
  He straight -up suplexed him. Yeah, well... What
• 1:20:34
  are you gonna do? Yeah. So there was an interesting
• 1:20:38
  point in the post -fight interview where Keyshawn
• 1:20:43
  was asked about what his plans are, right? And
• 1:20:50
  he came down to that he wants to move up to 147
• 1:20:56
  because making 140 was too much. It was too difficult.
• 1:21:05
  Oh, yeah. oh yeah yeah i heard him complaining
• 1:21:07
  about making weight in general yeah didn't he
• 1:21:10
  say something like making weight is not for me
• 1:21:13
  yes that's your job dude yeah and um um oh yeah
• 1:21:18
  um i mean I mean, we didn't even touch on that.
• 1:21:21
  Yeah, so for the weigh -ins, yeah, Kishan missed
• 1:21:25
  weight. It wasn't by a huge amount, but still,
• 1:21:28
  he didn't make weight the first time. Well, he
• 1:21:31
  made the re -weigh -in. He made the re -weigh
• 1:21:34
  -in, yeah, he made that, but the point still
• 1:21:37
  stands. He was over the limit for the first time.
• 1:21:43
  And then he had posted, Kishan, yeah, like on...
• 1:21:47
  on, I guess, uh, uh, Thursday night. Yeah. He,
• 1:21:51
  he posted on, on his Instagram story, you know,
• 1:21:54
  him in like a, um, uh, hideously colored, uh,
• 1:21:59
  bathtub, like, you know, Oh, making weight is
• 1:22:02
  the, the, uh, uh, the hardest part. So, and,
• 1:22:07
  um, you know, I mean, Keyshawn, right. He like,
• 1:22:11
  um, you know, maybe I'm, you know, it's just,
• 1:22:15
  um, like you know like i'm just um just based
• 1:22:20
  on my observations i don't know he doesn't seem
• 1:22:22
  like uh he's really like you know i mean massive
• 1:22:28
  uh i guess for 140 right he's like he's a pretty
• 1:22:31
  lean guy um you know he'll be undersized at 147
• 1:22:37
  i think yeah i i um yeah i i i think he'll be
• 1:22:42
  undersized at 147 um but but um again yeah you
• 1:22:49
  know he's he's a pretty lean guy um and i mean
• 1:22:51
  you know he moved up when he fought jermaine
• 1:22:53
  ortiz um i mean jermaine ortiz looked like absolutely
• 1:22:57
  massive um against kishan definitely like like
• 1:23:02
  kishan was like he was the noticeably smaller
• 1:23:05
  man um and then i think uh even you know i um
• 1:23:12
  I guess, you know, Broken Clock is right twice
• 1:23:16
  a day. Chris Mannix, you know, he brought up
• 1:23:19
  that, you know, it's not really, like, the best
• 1:23:23
  look of, you know, oh, you had two fights. I
• 1:23:25
  won 40, and then you just, like, kind of give
• 1:23:28
  up. Oh, I'll just go up because I don't like
• 1:23:30
  making weight. Like, that's the, like, the feel
• 1:23:34
  from, you know, that comment about Keshav. You
• 1:23:37
  know what? I'm just going to go. up uh making
• 1:23:40
  weight is is kind of hard like it kind of more
• 1:23:43
  reads as as oh i just don't want to lack of discipline
• 1:23:48
  yeah yeah but um i don't know yeah that's um
• 1:23:56
  uh that's my thoughts you know i you know i i
• 1:24:00
  still think he's you know skilled enough talented
• 1:24:02
  enough um granted you know um Like, you know,
• 1:24:09
  he's in a good state emotionally to, you know,
• 1:24:14
  to be a player at 147. Like, I think, you know,
• 1:24:17
  I would favor him over, I mean, anyone, I guess,
• 1:24:22
  really, you know. But, yeah, we'll have to wait
• 1:24:29
  and see. I heard a quote. a a reverse quote it
• 1:24:39
  was broken clocks maybe right twice a day but
• 1:24:42
  that does not mean that they're useful which
• 1:24:47
  i only say that i only bring it up because you
• 1:24:50
  mentioned chris mannix and i just i really hope
• 1:24:53
  that he trips over a curb every single time he
• 1:24:57
  comes up in front of one Possibly at the top
• 1:25:01
  of some stairs. I didn't want to go that far,
• 1:25:06
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• 1:25:14
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• 1:25:17
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• 1:25:26
  I think there's something to it that... Keyshawn
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  He could have put in the effort. Right. Exactly.
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  It's a lack of discipline. It's not, it's not
• 1:26:04
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• 1:26:07
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• 1:26:10
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• 1:26:14
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• 1:26:21
  it's those last, like, you know, one or two pounds,
• 1:26:23
  those last point, whatever pounds. Yeah. That
• 1:26:25
  are the hardest to make. But again, um, you know,
• 1:26:29
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• 1:26:33
  he not that you know oh like i i my body physically
• 1:26:40
  can't go down like i outgrew the division yeah
• 1:26:45
  he gives off just i just don't want to put in
• 1:26:49
  that effort of staying at this weight class because
• 1:26:54
  i don't like making 140. I'm inclined to agree.
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  I just don't think he wants to. Yeah, which,
• 1:27:09
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• 1:27:16
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• 1:27:21
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• 1:27:26
  if he doesn't want to put in the work, basically.
• 1:27:30
  It's unfortunate, but... it's it's ultimately
• 1:27:33
  his choice so yeah it's ultimately yeah his uh
• 1:27:37
  uh his his decision his choice so uh anything
• 1:27:43
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  May 29th. Really, I'm just pointing it out because
• 1:31:34
  there's a card on Friday. I literally don't know
• 1:31:39
  any of these names. Yeah, I don't know any of
• 1:31:42
  these guys. I guess, I don't know, good luck
• 1:31:47
  to them in their fights. Yeah. Saturday, May
• 1:31:52
  30th, starting with RCC on DAZN in Yekaterinburg,
• 1:32:00
  Russia. Fucking, I don't know who any of these
• 1:32:05
  people are up to the main event. The Dimitri
• 1:32:12
  Beeble versus Michael Eifert for the IBF, WBA,
• 1:32:17
  WBO light heavyweight titles. That's all I got.
• 1:32:23
  The only reason this card is relevant is to see
• 1:32:27
  how the surgery went for Beeble. 100%. I still
• 1:32:32
  maintain that Beeble, he's basically like an
• 1:32:39
  android now. um you know he he has a t800 uh
• 1:32:43
  spine now he's he's uh this is the best we're
• 1:32:46
  gonna see of him he has a new i would actually
• 1:32:49
  be i would be excited if you're right but yeah
• 1:32:54
  i'm gonna wait and see because if that's true
• 1:32:57
  then that means that um you know when the benavides
• 1:33:01
  fight happens and he beats people he he has a
• 1:33:06
  win over uh terminator On his resume. Who does
• 1:33:10
  that? Who does that to Bevo? We'll have to wait
• 1:33:17
  and see, I guess. Yeah. Who does that to Bevo?
• 1:33:26
  But yeah, that's it for the RCC card. Boxer.
• 1:33:34
  Also on DAZN. I don't really know anybody on
• 1:33:39
  this one until we get to the main event. Adam
• 1:33:43
  Azeem versus Steve Claggett at 140. I honestly
• 1:33:51
  don't care about this either. But I gotta cross
• 1:33:56
  my fingers for Claggett again. Just because.
• 1:34:04
  Well, he's not on an Eye of the Tiger card, so
• 1:34:07
  he doesn't have the blanket protection. No, he's
• 1:34:13
  going to lose. But I mean, I just feel like I
• 1:34:16
  have to cheer for him. Eye of the Tiger buff.
• 1:34:20
  Well, buff my ass. The Eye of the Tiger is the
• 1:34:24
  most one -sided matchmaking in boxing. Yeah,
• 1:34:30
  and I feel like... calling it matchmaking like
• 1:34:34
  that's like a pretty strong word for like what
• 1:34:37
  goes on for what goes on in that casino hey like
• 1:34:40
  that's okay look they are they are making a match
• 1:34:44
  there is one fighter versus another fighter it
• 1:34:49
  is certainly a match very careful matchmaking
• 1:34:52
  to make sure that the a -side never loses yeah
• 1:34:56
  like i mean i just feel like like you know that
• 1:34:59
  the the The Montreal Casino at this point is
• 1:35:05
  just like a final boss arena. It's like the final
• 1:35:09
  dungeon. It's like Blood Gulch from Halo. Yeah,
• 1:35:13
  for whatever reason. I don't think I've ever
• 1:35:17
  seen an upset on an Eye of the Tiger card. But
• 1:35:24
  yeah, Adam Azeem should win this, I assume. But
• 1:35:28
  Clay gets from Calgary, so... I guess I have
• 1:35:32
  to cheer for him. Yeah, he'll give it a go. He'll
• 1:35:41
  give it a go. Moving to Matchroom at the Fertitta
• 1:35:47
  Center in Houston. I recognize more than one
• 1:35:52
  name on this one. Yeah. I kind of stacked it.
• 1:35:59
  So on this list, so that we get to from the bottom
• 1:36:04
  up, we get to Zaquin Moses over Travis or facing
• 1:36:08
  Travis Crawford. It's probably going to be over
• 1:36:11
  Travis Crawford. He's like seven and six. So
• 1:36:14
  not the first time I've seen Travis Crawford
• 1:36:17
  brought in as an op. He's lost his last four
• 1:36:24
  fights. That's not good. Omari Jones versus Diego
• 1:36:31
  Osuna. Charlie Sheehy versus Jared Gonzalez.
• 1:36:37
  And WBC super featherweight champ Oshaki Foster
• 1:36:41
  versus Ray Ford. This one might be fun. Yeah,
• 1:36:48
  I'm looking forward to this. You know, I feel
• 1:36:56
  like... This fight is definitely in Foster's
• 1:37:08
  favor. I just feel like he has, you know, he
• 1:37:12
  just has, I don't know, more tools in the bag,
• 1:37:17
  you know, to get a win against Ford, you know.
• 1:37:25
  And, I mean, Ford, he hasn't, you know, exactly
• 1:37:28
  looked... He hasn't looked stellar, right? I
• 1:37:37
  guess you could say in his last few fights. Especially
• 1:37:39
  his fight with Abraham Nova, right? Like, I feel
• 1:37:45
  like that was a, you know, closer fight than
• 1:37:47
  probably people were expecting. And then... uh
• 1:37:53
  foster he's you know he's coming off i mean um
• 1:37:56
  i would say career best performance and and and
• 1:38:00
  win against uh against fulton so you know the
• 1:38:08
  the momentum is all on foster but um yeah i i
• 1:38:12
  i think it'll be fun you know it'll probably
• 1:38:15
  be competitive you know somewhat competitive
• 1:38:19
  uh the first and i think uh foster just takes
• 1:38:22
  over from there is that the fight that fulton
• 1:38:26
  looked absolutely awful though uh he came in
• 1:38:32
  overweight and looked awful yes yeah okay i don't
• 1:38:35
  know if you can read a bunch into that like fulton
• 1:38:38
  just looked like shit yeah he he did but um you
• 1:38:44
  know like like um um he's a name but i mean yeah
• 1:38:48
  but like he was not at his best not at his best
• 1:38:51
  but um i also feel like on the flip side right
• 1:38:54
  for like for fights like that where one guy is
• 1:38:58
  clearly not at his best he's not performing well
• 1:39:01
  i think it's also important how the other opponent
• 1:39:05
  um wins that fight right because i mean foster
• 1:39:10
  He was incomplete in total control. It wasn't
• 1:39:14
  really a competitive fight. That's true. He did
• 1:39:19
  what he had to do against that version of Fulton.
• 1:39:26
  I mean, Fulton looks so shitty. I was expecting
• 1:39:30
  a knockout. I mean, Foster, yeah, he's not a
• 1:39:37
  big puncher, you know, and, but, yeah, like,
• 1:39:46
  I'm just saying, you know, that Foster, he did
• 1:39:52
  what he had to do, and, you know, again, against
• 1:39:57
  that version of Fulton. Fair enough. Yeah. And
• 1:40:03
  then Ford, right? Again, he hasn't looked, you
• 1:40:06
  know, his best recently. And, you know, I mean,
• 1:40:12
  this is a guy that had a close fight with Nick
• 1:40:15
  Ball. So, like, you know, I thought Ford, I thought
• 1:40:22
  he won the Ball fight. But that's not, like,
• 1:40:27
  again, you had a close fight with Nick Ball.
• 1:40:30
  That's... That's kind of a loss already. But
• 1:40:35
  yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, just I
• 1:40:49
  guess don't expect any knockdowns or knockouts.
• 1:40:53
  Don't expect fireworks. Yeah, I guess expect
• 1:41:01
  If you're a purist, this will be for you. Yeah,
• 1:41:05
  exactly. That's what I'm... That's why I'm looking
• 1:41:12
  forward to it. It'll be a fairly high -level
• 1:41:15
  fight, I feel. And last one. MVP on ESPN. MVPW.
• 1:41:27
  Number three. from the bottom up what do we got
• 1:41:32
  jocelyn camarillo versus yasmin martinez uh jocelyn
• 1:41:38
  recently had a fight i think on mvp1 and she
• 1:41:43
  put some chick in the hospital so you know that
• 1:41:50
  should be fun uh moving up uh desley robinson
• 1:41:55
  the ibf wbo Middleweight champ is facing Mary
• 1:42:01
  Spencer, ranked second and sixth, respectively.
• 1:42:05
  Amanda Serrano, the WBA -WBO featherweight champion
• 1:42:11
  versus Cheyenne Hansen, ranked sixth and third.
• 1:42:16
  Lourdes Juarez versus Yocasta Valle. Juarez is
• 1:42:22
  the WBC light flyweight champ. Versus Yokasabaya
• 1:42:27
  is the WBC strawweight or minimum weight champ,
• 1:42:36
  however you want to phrase it. This is going
• 1:42:40
  to be the best fight on the card. Yeah, this
• 1:42:43
  is the one I'm looking forward to the most. Yeah,
• 1:42:46
  these two are fun. They throw a lot of punches.
• 1:42:51
  And in the main event, Stephanie Han. The WBA
• 1:42:56
  lightweight champ versus 8th ranked Holly Holm.
• 1:43:00
  This is going to be awful. I'm not... I'm looking
• 1:43:05
  forward to Juarez Valle more than anything. The
• 1:43:11
  weigh -in for Jocelyn Camarillo should be enjoyable
• 1:43:16
  for us. Maybe not Shanada so much. I don't usually
• 1:43:25
  watch the White Ants, but yeah. Yeah, there's
• 1:43:29
  a couple RJ tags on this card. Quite a few, yeah.
• 1:43:35
  But no, the Fight of the Night's gonna be the
• 1:43:37
  co -main. Those two are actually really fun.
• 1:43:42
  Vaya is a fucking beast. Yeah. She comes to fucking
• 1:43:48
  scrap every single time. I'm very... Very proudly
• 1:43:53
  a fan. And, um, Lourdes Juarez, she's had a few
• 1:44:00
  knockouts relatively recently. Maybe not a few,
• 1:44:04
  but she had a knockout two fights ago. So, I
• 1:44:10
  think that one's actually gonna be fireworks.
• 1:44:15
  But, I don't, I've said it before, I don't like
• 1:44:18
  when they make all women's cards. There's a few
• 1:44:21
  dudes on here. Is there? Down the bill, but yes.
• 1:44:30
  I don't know. I'll tune in for the... Well, I'll
• 1:44:33
  probably watch Amanda Serrano, but I don't think
• 1:44:35
  that one's going to be close. Six and third.
• 1:44:43
  Well, also, I've seen Cheyenne Hansen. I just
• 1:44:48
  don't think it's going to be close. She's German
• 1:44:53
  and she mostly fights in Europe and her opponents
• 1:44:58
  haven't been great to be honest. Damn, she has
• 1:45:02
  13 knockouts in 19 fights and 17 wins. When you
• 1:45:12
  have a very high KO percentage in women's boxing
• 1:45:18
  You're being fed elite matchmaking. Yeah, we'll
• 1:45:25
  go that way. It's almost all Germans with very
• 1:45:30
  losing records. It's a baristas from the boxercise
• 1:45:36
  class nearby. But... But that's all we got on
• 1:45:49
  the docket. Wow, we are solid on time. Yeah,
• 1:45:56
  sorry for being late. No, it's all right. No,
• 1:46:01
  we were, even without that, we were solid on
• 1:46:05
  time. So we're heading into what I called on
• 1:46:08
  B -sides. I called it May Day because May 30th
• 1:46:12
  is fucking busy. There's boxing pretty much the
• 1:46:16
  entire day. So, parting words, what do you got?
• 1:46:23
  Moving in Japan fucking blows, even if you're
• 1:46:28
  just trying to leave the country. The bureaucracy
• 1:46:31
  is awful. Don't do it. Don't live here. It's
• 1:46:36
  not worth it. Damel, you got anything? Yeah,
• 1:46:47
  I guess my parting words would be, yeah, if you're
• 1:46:53
  a boxing promoter, manager, or just, you know,
• 1:47:00
  work in the business and you're hearing this,
• 1:47:04
  don't make fights in front of city halls. It's
• 1:47:15
  not... It's not going to work. You know, like...
• 1:47:19
  You know, don't close off three city blocks for,
• 1:47:26
  you know, events that, like, maybe 300 people
• 1:47:30
  are going to go to. Yeah, that also sounds annoying.
• 1:47:37
  Yeah, but... Also, yeah, no. In all seriousness...
• 1:47:45
  Yeah, just thank you guys for having me. I had
• 1:47:49
  a blast being on the podcast and, you know, yeah,
• 1:47:56
  I look forward to being a guest, you know, speaker
• 1:48:02
  again or maybe here, maybe on the other podcast
• 1:48:11
  as well. I had a good time. Thank you. Yeah,
• 1:48:18
  thanks for coming. If you choke a Smurf, what
• 1:48:23
  color does it turn? Purple. Oh, yeah? Purple?
• 1:48:27
  Purple. Yeah. That's all I got. I know you weren't
• 1:48:34
  expecting a Smurf, but the answer would be purple.
• 1:48:40
  I am 100 % sure. All right, well. Because you
• 1:48:43
  have choked Smurfs in the past. Yeah. All right.
• 1:48:49
  That's it for this edition of Boxing Before Dark.
• 1:48:53
  Man, we will see you on the other side of Mayday.
• 1:48:56
  Bye. how do you want to convince them to watch
• 1:49:12
  mma instead or not instead but just to start
• 1:49:15
  watching mma i'm gonna go like a different route
• 1:49:19
  than nathan went i'm gonna go with first of all
• 1:49:23
  i think mma has more frequent watchable events
• 1:49:27
  you know there's some some weeks in boxing where
• 1:49:30
  it's like it's either super degenerate or like
• 1:49:33
  no names whatever i think in ufc there's like
• 1:49:35
  it's slightly better uh at times and then the
• 1:49:39
  big, big point, it's just more hectic. I think
• 1:49:42
  MMA at times is just more hectic. You're seeing
• 1:49:46
  stuff from street fights all the way to like
• 1:49:47
  movie type fights. You know, you got roundhouse
• 1:49:50
  kicks, straight up like bar fights at times.
• 1:49:55
  You get a wider range of enjoyable fights, I
• 1:49:59
  would say. And then just like, I don't know,
• 1:50:04
  it's just, it's more enjoyable. The fact that
• 1:50:07
  at times you get to see just guys, like standing
• 1:50:09
  and banging it's it's just more primal in a way
• 1:50:12
  uh is what i'd say that that's how i would try
• 1:50:14
  to convince uh like boxing only fans that it's
• 1:50:18
  just more if you enjoy chaos we saw it in the
• 1:50:21
  wild which is or fight if you enjoy that type
• 1:50:23
  chaos uh you know because that wasn't exactly
• 1:50:26
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• 1:50:28
  you enjoyed something like that i would definitely
• 1:50:30
  try out mma um just because at times there is
• 1:50:35
  high level things And that is incredible to watch.
• 1:50:38
  You know, people like Mauricio Hufi, you're seeing
• 1:50:41
  like incredible knockouts with kicks. But even
• 1:50:45
  like the lower level stuff can be enjoyable with
• 1:50:48
  people just going to town on each other, you
• 1:50:50
  know, standing and banging. That'd probably be
• 1:50:53
  the driving point that I would say to boxing
• 1:50:56
  only fans is that if you enjoy that chaos, I
• 1:51:00
  would say definitely give MMA a try. If you like
• 1:51:03
  chaos, I like that. If you do decide to give
• 1:51:06
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• 1:51:09
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• 1:51:12
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• 1:51:14
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