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NIKKI DROP OUT NOW! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump wins again, this time big in New Hampshire.
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Speaker 1: Yet Nicky Hayley is not dropping out.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: The New Hampshire primary results are official. Donald Trump on
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Speaker 1: his way to the nomination and on his way to
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Speaker 1: facing Joe Biden in a one on one race. As
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Speaker 1: soon as Nicki Haley gets her head out of a
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Speaker 1: rear in and realizes it is over now, I'm not
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Speaker 1: the only one, by the way, that believes it is over.
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Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow reading Joe Biden's statement on Trump's New Hampshire win.
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Speaker 2: This was on MSNBC. Listen.
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Speaker 3: Clearly a statement from President Joe Biden on tonight's results
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Speaker 3: in New Hampshire. This is a result is given exclusively
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Speaker 3: to us. She will not get this anywhere else. President's
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Speaker 3: statement is this. It is now clear that Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: will be the Republican nominee. And my message to the
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Speaker 3: country is the stakes could not be higher. Our democracy
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Speaker 3: are personal freedoms, from the right to choose to the
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Speaker 3: right to vote. Our economy, which has seen the strongest
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Speaker 3: recovery in the world since COVID, all are at stake.
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Speaker 3: President's statement continues, I want to thank all those who
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Speaker 3: wrote my name in this evening in New Hampshire. It
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Speaker 3: was a historic demonstration of commitment to our democratic process.
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Speaker 3: And I want to say to all those Independents and
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Speaker 3: Republicans who share our commitment to core values of our nation,
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Speaker 3: our democracy, our personal freedoms, an economy that gives everyone
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Speaker 3: a fair shot to join us as Americans. Let's remember
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Speaker 3: we are the United States of America and there is nothing,
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Speaker 3: nothing we cannot do if we do it together.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that is a statement.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to read exactly what President Joe Biden said
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Speaker 1: in his statement. It is now clear Donald Trump will
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Speaker 1: be the Republican nominee. So even Joe Biden and Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden's White House, who hates Donald Trump, is admitting now
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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump will be the nominee. Why is it
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Speaker 1: that Nikki Haley is refused, using to admit that she
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Speaker 1: is not going to get it, She does not have a.
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Speaker 2: Path to getting it. There's also something else here.
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Speaker 1: There's some in the media that are refusing to admit
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Speaker 1: that this is a defeat. For example, you may remember
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Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Chris Matthews. He got
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Speaker 1: the show got canceled or fired at MSNBC. But they
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Speaker 1: still had him from Manchester last night. Chris Matthews said,
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Speaker 1: Haley pulled quote a Bill Clinton number last night. He
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Speaker 1: lost in New Hampshire primary by eight points and to
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Speaker 1: create himself a winner in ninety two.
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Speaker 2: That is true. There is a big difference.
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Speaker 1: So he wasn't going up against a former president of
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Speaker 1: the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: And it wasn't a two man race in New Hampshire.
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Speaker 1: So you have to look at the facts at that
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Speaker 1: point and realize that, yeah, again, Chris Matthews is lying
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Speaker 1: to you about the conditions around quote those numbers. Also,
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Speaker 1: at least Jordan saying this about Democrats on MSNBC, because
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Speaker 1: I think it's important you understand how valuable Nicky Haley
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Speaker 1: is to the Democrats. Here is what at least Jordan
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Speaker 1: had to say on MSNBC about Nicky Haley staying in
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Speaker 1: the race and who it's good for.
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Speaker 4: At least Jordan, you know who else is pretending that
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Speaker 4: Nikki Haley's not there? The Biden White House because they desperately,
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Speaker 4: desperately want to rematge with Donald Trump because they know
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Speaker 4: they'll beating But it's good.
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Speaker 5: For the Biden White House if Nicky Haley stays in
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Speaker 5: the race as long as possible, if she forces Donald
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Speaker 5: Trump to stay out on the stump and respond, and
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Speaker 5: he keeps giving these performances that have you lacking his
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Speaker 5: mental faculties, have you lacking his age, frankly, and that's
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Speaker 5: something that she knows that he's vulnerable on. Biden and
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Speaker 5: Trump both have the age vulnerability. And as long as
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Speaker 5: she stays in the race, it's good for Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I told you on this show yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Nicki Haley is a useful idiot for the Democratic Party
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Speaker 1: right now. And on MSNBC they're saying it, as long
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Speaker 1: as Nicky Haley stays in the race, it is good
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Speaker 1: for Joe Biden. So Joe Biden is admitting that Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump is the nominee. MSNBC is admitting that Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: or the Donald Trump is the nominee. The White House
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Speaker 1: is planning on a one on one race, and yet
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Speaker 1: the useful idiot Nicki Haley is saying, I'm still in
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Speaker 1: this thing.
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Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Also, Nancy Mace coming out on Fox News Channel. She's
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Speaker 1: a Republican from South Carolina. She's on the House and
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Speaker 1: Armed Services Committee. She came out talking about her endorsement
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Speaker 1: not of Nicki Haley, but of Donald Trump. Here's what
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Speaker 1: she said, and this is coming from an important endorsement
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Speaker 1: out of South Carolina.
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Speaker 6: Listen, eight South Carolina GOP leaders have been George Donald
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Speaker 6: Trump for president, going against the state's former governor, Nicki
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Speaker 6: Haley ahead of the crucial state primary next month. Nancy
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Speaker 6: Mace is one of those South Carolina Republicans endorsing the
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Speaker 6: former president, and she joins me now, Congresswoman, good morning
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Speaker 6: to you. So Nicki Haley lost in New Hampshire, but
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Speaker 6: by a smaller margin than expected. So do you think
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Speaker 6: that that result last night will help her in South
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Speaker 6: Carolina because that is what she is hoping for.
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Speaker 7: South Carolina is Trump country and he is crushing it
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Speaker 7: right now. And Number one, I want to say that
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Speaker 7: Nicky Haley ran a great race. She made it deep
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Speaker 7: into the playoffs. But the playoffs are now over and
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Speaker 7: it's time to start the super Bowl. We have gotten
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Speaker 7: to take on Joe Biden right now. If we're going
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Speaker 7: to take our country back, we need to reverse every
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Speaker 7: bad policy that Joe Biden created, whether it's inflation, whether
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Speaker 7: it's the economy, immigration, crime in our communities. By every measurement,
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump made our nation safer and more prosperous and stronger.
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Speaker 7: We didn't have these forever wars that Joe Biden started
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Speaker 7: right now.
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Speaker 8: Now, Look, we're in.
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Speaker 7: A proxy worthy ron based on the administration's decisions to
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Speaker 7: bomb the Hoopies without coming to Congress. Everything was safer
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Speaker 7: and better under Donald Trump. And that's what the American
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Speaker 7: people want, That's what South Carolina wants.
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Speaker 2: And he's going to win big here. He's going to
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Speaker 2: win big here.
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Speaker 1: So you look at that list of all the different
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Speaker 1: people in South Carolina, and I want you to understand
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Speaker 1: just how many people now have gone for Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: over Nicki Haley in her home state, Senator Tim Scott
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Speaker 1: obviously on the short list to be the vice presidential
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Speaker 1: candidate with Donald Trump, Lindsey Graham, Senator, sitting senator, both
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Speaker 1: sitting senators now from South Carolina behind Donald Trump. The
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Speaker 1: governor there McMaster again endorsing Donald Trump, who you just heard,
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Speaker 1: Representive Nancy May. She has endorsed Donald Trump, Representative Russell Fry,
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Speaker 1: Representative Joe Wilson, Representative William Timmins, and Representative Jeff Duncan.
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Speaker 1: So you look at that list, that is eight different
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Speaker 1: GOP leaders in South Carolina who have all said no
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Speaker 1: to Nick Haley, who is from South Carolina, who they
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Speaker 1: all know well, and they've all said that it is
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: It is a matter of time before Trump is the nominee.
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Speaker 1: The only thing standing in his way is Nicki Haley,
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Speaker 1: and Nicki Haley is to quote MSNBC, as long as
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Speaker 1: Nicki Haley stays in the race, it is good for
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Let me explain a little bit more why
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Speaker 1: I say that. So you understand Donald Trump is going
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Speaker 1: to be in court a lot. Democrats have designed these
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Speaker 1: indictments and charge against him to tie him up in
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Speaker 1: court during the campaign cycle.
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Speaker 2: That is going to take time away from him.
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Speaker 1: Being out there on the stump, out there doing events
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Speaker 1: and rallies. And then if he's still having to fight
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Speaker 1: in a primary and go state to state instead of
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Speaker 1: looking at the broader election of the general election, that
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Speaker 1: is going to hurt him even more. And that is
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Speaker 1: exactly why Democrats are desperate for her to stay in
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Speaker 1: Ky Haley to Sadam Let me also say this. Van
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Speaker 1: Jones on CNN last night made another point which is
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Speaker 1: one that I couldn't agree with more.
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Speaker 2: He said, look, Joe.
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Speaker 1: Biden right now with Nikki Haley in this thing. He's
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Speaker 1: got a strategy and he should stick to it, and
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Speaker 1: that strategy is to stay hidden.
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Speaker 9: Listen, if I were of Biden, I would I would
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Speaker 9: stay hidden, and I'll tell you why. He doesn't inspire
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Speaker 9: confidence and he's not a great messager for himself. He
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Speaker 9: has done a tremendous drop of this economy. Union members,
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Speaker 9: union leaders have are racking up when after when they
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Speaker 9: should be put forward. There are clean energy executives in
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Speaker 9: red states that to play people to work and sold everything.
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Speaker 9: Basically like there's something wrong with this campaign where we're
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Speaker 9: somehow expecting Joe Biden, who frankly hit during the last campaign,
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Speaker 9: to come out now and be flash of Bordon and
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Speaker 9: say this is his own campaign. The people who are
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Speaker 9: benefiting from the Biden economy and they exist should be
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Speaker 9: empowered to speak.
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Speaker 1: So Jones, if I were Biden, I'd stay hidden, and
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Speaker 1: he can stay hidden longer if it's not a one
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Speaker 1: on one race against Donald Trump. Let me also talk
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Speaker 1: about the exit poll data, and I'm gonna give you
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Speaker 1: CNN and the reason why some peo we asking me,
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Speaker 1: like Ben, why do you give cen it a lot?
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Speaker 1: Because I want you to know what the left is saying,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to understand that if what their
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Speaker 1: strategy is and what their data shows, because it's important
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Speaker 1: that you understand. Hey, this is kind of like best
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Speaker 1: case scenario for Joe Biden and worst case scenario for
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Example, that's why I'll give you some seeing
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Speaker 1: an exit poll numbers because it's showing that it's not
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Speaker 1: somebody trying to cook the book saying Donald Trump's a
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Speaker 1: grace thing ever, right, these people hate Donald Trump, and
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Speaker 1: so when their data shows overwhelmingly overwhelming intel and shows
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Speaker 1: just how clearly Donald Trump is in the lead, I
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Speaker 1: think it's very valuable intel.
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Speaker 2: Let me give you an example of what I mean
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Speaker 2: by this.
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Speaker 1: Seeing an exit poll data showed that seventy percent of
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Speaker 1: Nikki Haley voters were not listen carefully registered Republicans in
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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. So did she have that amazing of a
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Speaker 1: night or was it Operation Chaos where those that are
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Speaker 1: actually not Republicans decide to go vote in the Republican primary,
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Speaker 1: and the reason why they decided to vote in the
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Speaker 1: Republican primary is because they wanted to hurt Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: That's a question.
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Speaker 1: Now, you can make that accusation, right, Like, that's an
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Speaker 1: accusation you can make, and you can make it and be.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, well Donald Trump won by more.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well let's back it up with facts if we're
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Speaker 1: going to make that argument, because there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: idiots out there that do what I do and they're like,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, they stole this. Seg No, I want data,
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Speaker 1: I want facts. I want to know what was really
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Speaker 1: going on compared to what you know just because you
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Speaker 1: wanted it to be a bigger win, for example, from
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Does that mean that there's actually that big
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Speaker 1: of a win?
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Speaker 2: All right, So let's look at this. Nikki Haley relied heavily.
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Speaker 1: This is coming from CNN on support of Independence and
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Speaker 1: Democrats in the New Hampshire primary, yet still lost by
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Speaker 1: wide margins of Hailey voters.
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Speaker 2: In the granted state.
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Speaker 1: CNN said that at seven in ten said they were
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Speaker 1: registered as undeclared prior to Tuesday, so undeclared before Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: CNN relied on an exit poll to make its shocking statement.
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Speaker 1: New Hampshire's loosed requirements allow for voters to cross over.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Future Republican caucuses and primaries will consist overwhelmingly of registered Republicans,
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Speaker 1: So if you want to switch to the last moment,
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Speaker 1: you can do it. And that's something you can do
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Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. And that's exactly what happened on behalf
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Speaker 1: because remember there was one person not on the ballot
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Speaker 1: last night in New Hampshire. That was Joe Biden. Now
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Speaker 1: there was a write end campaign to give him a
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Speaker 1: bunch of votes to show that he's obviously the guy,
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Speaker 1: and there were some Democrats that did that, and that
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Speaker 1: was great find and dandy, But if you look at
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Speaker 1: the data and what they were doing, what many and look,
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Speaker 1: this was smart.
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Speaker 2: I want to be clear about this.
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Speaker 1: If I was a Democrat last night in New Hampshire,
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Speaker 1: I would have voted for Donald Trump. If I was
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Speaker 1: a Democrat and I don't want Donald Trump to win,
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Speaker 1: I would have voted in the Republican primary for Nicki
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Speaker 1: Haley last night. Because the longer Nicki Haley is in
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Speaker 1: the race, the better it is for Joe Biden, and
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Speaker 1: the longer that Joe Biden can go And yes, hide.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about here. Trump crushed Haley in
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Speaker 1: New Hampshire primary. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying to
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Speaker 1: you by double digits. With the results that were clear
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Speaker 1: that he is the front runner and he is the guy.
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Speaker 1: The Associated Press called New Hampshire results within three minutes
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Speaker 1: of the poll's closing. That's how much of a beatdown
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Speaker 1: this was. Last night in Iowa, where Trump won by
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Speaker 1: a historic thirty took the Associated Press thirty one minutes
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Speaker 1: to call the race, So when it got closer as
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Speaker 1: a two man race, it was even easier to call.
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Speaker 1: Trump's path to the nomination seems all but inevitable, is
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Speaker 1: how the AP put it.
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Speaker 2: After his victory.
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Speaker 1: Senator John Cornyn, Republican from Texas, and Debbie Fisher, Republican
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Speaker 1: as well, endorseed Trump within minutes of his victory, saying basically,
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Speaker 1: enough is enough. And those two are not people that
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Speaker 1: are like big pro Trump kind of people.
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Speaker 2: That's the other reason why I'm giving you that data.
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Speaker 1: So when people talk about Nikki Haley having this great night,
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Speaker 1: did she have a great night because Democrats support her
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Speaker 1: or did she have a great night because Republicans supported her?
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Speaker 1: Based on the data, it seems very clear that it
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Speaker 1: was the Democrats that supported her last night, not the
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Speaker 1: Republicans that got her the numbers that she got. And look,
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Speaker 1: she did have a good showing last night. Right, I'll
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Speaker 1: go back and I'll play a clip for you last night. Well,
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Speaker 1: let me let me rephrase that. Hold on, let me
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Speaker 1: say this. Donald Trump came out on stage, and I
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Speaker 1: do want you to hear some of what Trump said
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Speaker 1: because I think it's it's important. And he was talking
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Speaker 1: about the future, and he said this about going up
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Speaker 1: against Joe Biden.
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Speaker 8: We had one hell of a night tonight and one
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Speaker 8: other thing before Vivic comes. Do you see that, Paul,
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Speaker 8: We're gonna put it up.
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Speaker 10: We have beaten Biden.
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Speaker 8: You could almost say, who can't?
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Speaker 2: Who the hell can't?
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Speaker 8: The man can't put two sentences together, He can't find
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Speaker 8: the stairs off the stage. Who can't? But Vivic one
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Speaker 8: minute or less?
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Speaker 1: Go do it, Vivic, one minute or less?
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Speaker 2: He said, who can Who couldn't beat him? Right?
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Speaker 1: Who couldn't beat Joe Biden? Now, Chris Matthews, he said
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Speaker 1: this trying to trying to fluff this up, And well,
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Speaker 1: you got to understand, Nick Heley pulled.
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Speaker 2: A Bill Quick number last night. They want you to
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Speaker 2: believe that.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, she's got another month if she does infect stay
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Speaker 11: in and she said she will another month from today
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Speaker 11: in South Carolina. So buckle up, let's go back up
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Speaker 11: to Manchester, New Hampshire where we find for our MSNBC hopes,
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Speaker 11: Chris Matthews, Chris Greate, to see you again today. What
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Speaker 11: are your impressions this morning after Donald Trump's eleven point
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Speaker 11: win last night.
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Speaker 10: Well, my impression was really when I watched it last
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Speaker 10: night of Donald Trump, I mean, was he was blown up,
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Speaker 10: blown apart. Because here is Nicky Haley, a relative newcomer
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Speaker 10: to politics compared to Bill Clinton and people like that,
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Speaker 10: pulling up Bill Clinton number. Back in nineteen ninety two,
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Speaker 10: Bill Clinton lost the New Hampshire primary by eight points
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Speaker 10: to Paul Saugus, but at ten o'clock that night, he
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Speaker 10: went out way before the nightly news, the late news,
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Speaker 10: and he declared himself the winner. You made me the
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Speaker 10: come back kid.
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Speaker 2: This is exactly what Nicki Helly did last night.
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Speaker 10: She came on when the polls were still very close
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Speaker 10: to the results coming in very close, and she said
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Speaker 10: I won basically, And that is exactly what is driving
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump crazy. He put a lot of effort into
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Speaker 10: this state. He held a lot of rallies all around
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Speaker 10: the state, very carefully segmenting different parts of the state.
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Speaker 10: He got a lot of poor people, a lot of
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Speaker 10: people hard up, really coming out for him in the
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Speaker 10: Republican Party. And yet here she is coming out like
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Speaker 10: a butterfly. You know, she was a caterpillar for a
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Speaker 10: while there. Then she's a butterfly right in his face
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Speaker 10: saying basically, I won, and I'm going to be in
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Speaker 10: your face now for months. And that is a statement
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Speaker 10: he did not want to hear. He thought he could
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Speaker 10: put her away, and he didn't do it last night.
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Speaker 10: She's going to be around for weeks. She's going to
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Speaker 10: get a lot of media attention because, as you all
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Speaker 10: been saying this morning, she's a lot better now than
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Speaker 10: she was a few weeks ago. She is now the star,
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Speaker 10: or close to the star. I thought I saw coming
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Speaker 10: here when I come out here to cover this thing,
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Speaker 10: I thought she'd get more closer to him, And she's
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Speaker 10: getting there with this age thing, and so's Chris Nunu.
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Speaker 10: They were hitting him and hitting him and hitting him,
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Speaker 10: and he gets more and more mistakes, confusing her with Pelosi.
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Speaker 2: Give me a break.
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Speaker 10: That was a long period of time he was saying
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Speaker 10: things like she was the one that didn't take my
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Speaker 10: ten thousand troops. What are you talking about? So I
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Speaker 10: think she's going to go out just like Egene Carroll.
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Speaker 2: She's out there by the way.
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Speaker 1: Let me just notice how even Matthews said she's going
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Speaker 1: to be around for weeks. He didn't say she was
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Speaker 1: going to win, right, he's bloviating here, but even he's admitting, like, well,
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Speaker 1: she's going to be around for weeks, for weeks, He's
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Speaker 1: going to be around weeks, bothering him, nipping at his heels.
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Speaker 1: Then they try to tell you that Nicki Haley is
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Speaker 1: the new star bigger than Donald Trump?
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: Look at her rallies compared to his rallies. This is
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Speaker 1: how much of a useful idiot Nicky Haley is for
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Speaker 1: the left.
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Speaker 2: They are desperate for her to stay in this thing.
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Speaker 1: Haley also said, and look, she's going to stand this
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Speaker 1: thing for a month. And we're talking about a month
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Speaker 1: from today when we're going to end up having that
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. She's not on the ballot in Nevada. So
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Speaker 1: it's going to go to South Carolina. She is down
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Speaker 1: there massively. In South Carolina. Every elected official there that
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Speaker 1: is important has not endorsed her. She doesn't care. How
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Speaker 1: is she still going further?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: How does she keep going? I can tell you that
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Speaker 1: this is actually pretty simple. She's got a lot of money.
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Speaker 1: The same money that was given to Mitt Romney, the
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Speaker 1: same money that was given to Mitt Romney, the same
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Speaker 1: money that was given to all these establishment Jeb Bush's right, like,
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Speaker 1: all this type of rhino money is going now.
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Speaker 2: To Nikki Haley.
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Speaker 1: The never Trump people in the Republican Party are one
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Speaker 1: hundred and ten percent behind her. They desperately want her
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Speaker 1: to not stop. They're delusional, and I think many of
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Speaker 1: them actually are are are genuinely okay with Nicky Haley
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Speaker 1: losing ultimately but hurting Donald Trump. I think there's some
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Speaker 1: of these never Trump Republican establishment individuals. I mean this
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Speaker 1: when I say this, Okay, I really do. I think
19:12
Speaker 1: there are quite a few of these never Trump Republicans
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Speaker 1: that actually believe that they'd rather have another four years
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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden than have Donald Trump win again.
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Speaker 2: That is how much they hate Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: And these are quote Republicans, that's who's giving her the
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Speaker 1: money to stay in this thing. And look, she can
19:34
Speaker 1: stay in as long as she's got the money. And
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Speaker 1: right now she's got enough money to stay in. She's
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Speaker 1: got enough cash to stay. And she spent a lot
19:40
Speaker 1: of money, by the way, in New Hampshire and it
19:42
Speaker 1: didn't pay off for her. Now she's going to say,
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Speaker 1: this is my home state. I can do something here.
19:48
Speaker 1: I've got thirty days. The race has change, it's one
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Speaker 1: on one. I'm going to change the narrative. Looks she's
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Speaker 1: going to come after Donald Trump for thirty days. And
19:55
Speaker 1: she's also not even on the ballot. As I mentioned,
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Speaker 1: she's not competing in the Vatica caucuses. She's a candidate
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Speaker 1: in the US Virgin Island caucuses, which both happen on
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Speaker 1: the same day. So she may have a moral victory
20:08
Speaker 1: there is what she might try to do with her campaign,
20:11
Speaker 1: but that happens February eighth, weeks before the South Carolina primary.
20:16
Speaker 1: So the next major contest beyond New Hampshire, and she
20:19
Speaker 1: made it coil last night, is her home state in
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Speaker 1: this in this, in this in the South, in South Carolina,
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Speaker 1: where Haley faces perhaps even perhaps even longer odds if
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Speaker 1: she stays in the race after what she's already been through.
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Speaker 1: And she's staying in that's what she says she has.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned a moment ago. Trump has a support of
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Speaker 1: both US centers and the sitting governor of South Carolina,
20:42
Speaker 1: among many other elected officials. Polls, the latest polls, now,
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Speaker 1: this is before last night, shoe Trump's lead is even
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Speaker 1: more significant in South Carolina than it was New Hampshire
20:52
Speaker 1: or Iowa. So, Nikki Haley does she have a pathway
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Speaker 1: to victory? I know, and she knows that, But I
21:01
Speaker 1: think she's not playing for a pathway. I think what
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Speaker 1: she's doing is she's saying, Okay, I'm gonna either tie
21:08
Speaker 1: you up, Donald Trump and have you in a bitter
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Speaker 1: Republican battle, or offer me something. What are you gonna
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Speaker 1: give me? What do you What are you gonna give me?
21:21
Speaker 1: What is it I'm gonna get from you? You want
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Speaker 1: to give me the vice presidency and I'll help unite
21:27
Speaker 1: the party.
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Speaker 2: There's also that aspect of uniting the party.
21:30
Speaker 1: And I'm giving you all the different scenarios here so
21:32
Speaker 1: you understand that there is a chance in Nikki Haley's
21:36
Speaker 1: strategy here is, hey be a thorn in the side
21:40
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump to the point where Donald Trump finally says, Okay,
21:46
Speaker 1: you can be the VP.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen, but this is what
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Speaker 1: she may be thinking. She also may think, Hey, if
21:54
Speaker 1: I can divide the Republican Party for a long time
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Speaker 1: on purpose, then I am more valuable to Donald Trump
22:03
Speaker 1: to reunite the Republican Party.
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Speaker 2: So that's my other option.
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Speaker 1: I'll reunite the Republican Party, and I'll reunite that Republican
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Speaker 1: Party by saying to him, put me on your team.
22:19
Speaker 2: Give me the vice presidency.
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Speaker 1: I'll get all these never trumpers and all these Republican
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Speaker 1: establishment donors who are on my team to then give
22:27
Speaker 1: money to us, mister president.
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Speaker 2: She can then use what she's doing.
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Speaker 1: And I think where she's hurting Donald Trump the most
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Speaker 1: right now is on the age issue.
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Speaker 2: I think that's her only thing. She's not beating him
22:37
Speaker 2: on any of the issues of the political issues.
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Speaker 1: I think all she's doing is hurting him and saying,
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Speaker 1: do you really want to eighty year old guys running
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Speaker 1: this country? That's been her line. It's her line that
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Speaker 1: she used last night, her line, you know, well, do
22:52
Speaker 1: you really think that the country needs to eighty year
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Speaker 1: olds running this country? Haley saying, you know, this race
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Speaker 1: is far from over, and I'm sticking in this thing
23:04
Speaker 1: and I'm not going anywhere. I think it's delusional unless
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Speaker 1: you're trying to become the vice president.
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Speaker 12: I want to congratulate Donald Trump on his victory tonight.
23:16
Speaker 12: He earned it, and I want to acknowledge that. Now
23:21
Speaker 12: you've all heard the chatter among the political class. They're
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Speaker 12: falling all over themselves saying this race is over. Well,
23:37
Speaker 12: I have news for all of them. New Hampshire is
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Speaker 12: first in the nation. It is not the last in
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Speaker 12: the nation. This race is far from over. There are
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Speaker 12: dozens of states.
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Speaker 2: Left to go.
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Speaker 1: It is far from over. There are dozens of states
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Speaker 1: left to go.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: When she came out and made that speech, I think
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Speaker 1: it was very strategic.
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Speaker 2: It was actually a smart decision by her.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that you may have noticed here
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Speaker 1: that she was saying is you know, it's far from over,
24:13
Speaker 1: but it sounded like she could be dropping out, and
24:15
Speaker 1: then it was like, no, I'm not. I am here
24:17
Speaker 1: to stay. It is far from over. Nicky Haley right
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Speaker 1: now is going to continue to drain resources from Trump
24:28
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump saying this about Nicki Haley, he was
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Speaker 1: right when he said it. He used his victory speech
24:34
Speaker 1: to go after Haley. Some said, oh, it is unhinged, right, No,
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Speaker 1: it's not. Why is she hurting the Republican Party?
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Speaker 2: Listen, a fantastic state. This is a great, great state.
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Speaker 8: You know, we won New Hampshire three times now three three.
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Speaker 8: We win it. Every time we win the primary, we
24:55
Speaker 8: win the generals. We've won it and it's a very
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Speaker 8: very special place to me. It is very important. If
25:01
Speaker 8: you remember in twenty sixteen, we came here and we
25:04
Speaker 8: needed that winner. We won by twenty one points and
25:06
Speaker 8: it was great. And today I have to tell you
25:11
Speaker 8: it was very interesting because I said, wow, what a
25:13
Speaker 8: great victory. But then somebody ran up to the stage
25:17
Speaker 8: all dressed up nicely when it was at seven. But
25:21
Speaker 8: now I just walked up and it said fourteen. She
25:26
Speaker 8: ran up when it was seven, and you know, we
25:30
Speaker 8: have to do what's good for our party. And she
25:32
Speaker 8: was up and I said, wow, she's doing like a
25:36
Speaker 8: speech like she won. She didn't win, she lost. And
25:39
Speaker 8: you know last week we had a little bit of
25:44
Speaker 8: a problem. And if you remember, Ron was very upset
25:47
Speaker 8: because she ran up and she pretended she won Iowa.
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Speaker 2: And I looked.
25:53
Speaker 8: Around, I said, didn't she come in third?
25:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, she came in third.
25:57
Speaker 8: And then I looked at the polls. She was talking
25:59
Speaker 8: about win ability, who's going to win? And I had
26:02
Speaker 8: one put up. I don't know if you see it,
26:03
Speaker 8: but I have one put up. We've won almost every
26:07
Speaker 8: single poll in the last three months against Crooked Joe Biden,
26:10
Speaker 8: almost every pole. And she doesn't win those falls and
26:16
Speaker 8: she doesn't win those This is not your typical victory speech.
26:19
Speaker 8: But let's not have somebody take a victory when she
26:23
Speaker 8: had a very bad night. She had a very bad night.
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Speaker 2: And you.
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Speaker 8: Have the you have the very the now very unpopular
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Speaker 8: governor of this state. This guy, he's got to be
26:35
Speaker 8: on something. I've never seen anybody with energy. He's like
26:39
Speaker 8: a Popscotch. And you know, I'm watching this guy. And
26:45
Speaker 8: two weeks ago said we're gonna win.
26:46
Speaker 2: We're gonna win.
26:47
Speaker 8: The land side, We're gonna win. About three days ago,
26:49
Speaker 8: so I said, well, we want to do well, that's
26:52
Speaker 8: a big difference. But I walked out. Just now we're
26:55
Speaker 8: fourteen points up and I don't know what it's going
26:57
Speaker 8: to be.
26:58
Speaker 2: But when she was up here, it.
26:59
Speaker 8: Was like six or and you know, with like seven
27:02
Speaker 8: percent of the vote counted. Now, let me just tell you,
27:07
Speaker 8: we had an unbelievable week last week in Iowa.
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Speaker 2: We set our record.
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Speaker 8: It was the best in the history of the caucus, and.
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Speaker 1: The best in the history of the caucus. Donald Trump
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27:24
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