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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:02Speaker 2: It is verdict with center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
- 0:05Speaker 2: it is a clown show, this court case in New
- 0:09Speaker 2: York City. Yet you have a judge that has made
- 0:12Speaker 2: it very clear to Donald Trump, I will put you
- 0:14Speaker 2: in jail. I don't care that you're a former president
- 0:17Speaker 2: or is he put it maybe the next president of
- 0:19Speaker 2: the United States of America.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Well, I got to say, Ben, what you're saying I
- 0:23Speaker 3: think is profoundly unfair to clowns. What we're saying in
- 0:26Speaker 3: New York is ridiculous. It is a partisan Democrat judge
- 0:30Speaker 3: who is threatening to put Donald Trump in jail. We're
- 0:33Speaker 3: going to break down what that looks like, what the
- 0:35Speaker 3: threat is, and what the consequences would be if that
- 0:37Speaker 3: actually happened. We're also going to talk about what has
- 0:40Speaker 3: happened on the border. It keeps getting worse and worse
- 0:43Speaker 3: and worse. The latest breaking news is yet another illegal immigrant,
- 0:46Speaker 3: in this instance from Guatemala, has committed yet another crime.
- 0:50Speaker 3: He's been arrested in Florida over the alleged kidnapping and
- 0:52Speaker 3: sexual assault of a minor under the age of thirteen.
- 0:56Speaker 3: This is another illegal immigrant. Biden's release this is happening
- 0:59Speaker 3: week after week after week.
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- 2:43Speaker 2: Let's get to the overview of this trial in New
- 2:47Speaker 2: York City. This was a trial that we need to
- 2:51Speaker 2: remind people. The federal government refused to prosecute you. Then
- 2:55Speaker 2: had Alvin Bragg, who was a guy that said vote
- 2:59Speaker 2: for me, I'll go after try and has raised literally
- 3:02Speaker 2: one hundred thousands of dollars off of prosecuting Trump. And
- 3:06Speaker 2: then we find out even more that the entire team
- 3:09Speaker 2: around this trial representing the state and Alvin Bragg are
- 3:16Speaker 2: primo lawyers that took massive emotions to come down and
- 3:20Speaker 2: work on this specific case to get Donald Trump. And
- 3:23Speaker 2: that's just the beginning of where we are.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Well, as you said, this entire thing is a clown show,
- 3:28Speaker 3: and as I said, that's not fair to clowns. But
- 3:31Speaker 3: we are seeing a disgraceful display in New York. This
- 3:35Speaker 3: is the second trial in a row brought by partisan
- 3:38Speaker 3: Democrat prosecutors who hate Donald Trump, who are ambitious, who
- 3:43Speaker 3: campaigned promising to go after Donald Trump, and we're bringing
- 3:46Speaker 3: wildly unfair partisan cases against Trump because it is in
- 3:50Speaker 3: their political interest. The law doesn't matter in this case.
- 3:54Speaker 3: We saw this week testimony from Stormy Daniels. It was scintillating.
- 3:58Speaker 3: It was all desired to say sex, sex, sex.
- 4:01Speaker 4: I mean that was enough to scream.
- 4:04Speaker 3: And you know what, if you are a left wing partisan,
- 4:10Speaker 3: this is like, this is cracked to you.
- 4:13Speaker 4: This is just.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Dragging Trump through the gutter. And mind you, this is
- 4:18Speaker 3: all intended to be a distraction. Understand why this is happening.
- 4:22Speaker 3: This is not happening because a politician has a sex scandal. Again,
- 4:27Speaker 3: that is not the first time that has occurred. This
- 4:31Speaker 3: is happening because Democrats are terrified that the American people
- 4:35Speaker 3: are going to vote for Donald Trump in November, and
- 4:38Speaker 3: they are trying to interfere with the election. They're trying
- 4:40Speaker 3: to stop the election. They're trying to do everything they
- 4:43Speaker 3: can to stop Trump from being re elected. And they
- 4:46Speaker 3: don't want the voters focused on what actually matters to
- 4:49Speaker 3: most voters. Most voters when they go in and vote,
- 4:51Speaker 3: what they're thinking about is how does this affect my life,
- 4:54Speaker 3: How does this affect my family, How does this affect
- 4:57Speaker 3: my kids? And if those are the questions you asking,
- 5:00Speaker 3: you're going to vote for Trump. Look under Biden, everything
- 5:04Speaker 3: Biden's touched has gone to crap. It's been a train wreck.
- 5:06Speaker 3: The policy agenda has been terrible. We've seen inflation out
- 5:10Speaker 3: of control, crime out of control, the border out of control.
- 5:13Speaker 3: We've seen relentless partisans, an attack on our constitutional rights,
- 5:18Speaker 3: an attack on free speech, on religious liberty, on the
- 5:21Speaker 3: Second Amendment. And that's not to mention the utter chaos
- 5:24Speaker 3: and disaster. Foreign policy of national security is whether it's
- 5:27Speaker 3: the Afghanistan debacle or Ukraine or the horrors unfolding in Israel.
- 5:33Speaker 3: Everything Joe Biden has touched has gone to crap. So
- 5:37Speaker 3: if you're a partisan Democrat, you don't want to talk
- 5:39Speaker 3: about Biden's record, Nope, can't defend that. What do you
- 5:42Speaker 3: want to do? You want to try to smear Trump?
- 5:44Speaker 3: And I got to say what happened this week? Listen,
- 5:47Speaker 3: this judge, by all appearances, this judge is a hardcore
- 5:50Speaker 3: partisan Democrat, just like Alvin Bragg, the George Soros prosecutor.
- 5:55Speaker 3: So he is now held Donald Trump in contempt twice,
- 6:00Speaker 3: he's imposed a gag order that said Trump can't talk
- 6:04Speaker 3: about anything.
- 6:06Speaker 4: Twice.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Trump has well, he is the Republican nominee to be president,
- 6:09Speaker 3: he's running for president. He's going to talk about the
- 6:11Speaker 3: political persecution going on against him. Well, he violated this
- 6:16Speaker 3: order and he's received ten thousand dollars worth of fines
- 6:20Speaker 3: since the trial began, one thousand dollars for each violation,
- 6:23Speaker 3: and the judge is imposing one after the other after
- 6:25Speaker 3: the other. And on Monday, here's what the judge said, quote.
- 6:29Speaker 3: It appears that the one thousand dollars fines are not
- 6:32Speaker 3: serving as a deterrent. Going forward, this court will have
- 6:36Speaker 3: to consider a jail sanction. I've got to say it
- 6:41Speaker 3: is extraordinary. Trump sent out a fundraising email on Monday
- 6:45Speaker 3: that said, quote, the liberal judge in New York just
- 6:47Speaker 3: threatened to throw me in jail. All caps and read
- 6:51Speaker 3: lettering and throw me in jail. They want me in handcuffs.
- 6:55Speaker 3: And the email, of course sought fundraising. But I'll say
- 6:59Speaker 3: Trump is saying he will stand up, he will go
- 7:02Speaker 3: to jail in order to defend the First Amendment. He said, quote,
- 7:06Speaker 3: I'll do that sacrifice. The circus keeps getting crazier and crazier.
- 7:12Speaker 2: The fantasy of the left, and this has really been
- 7:15Speaker 2: i think since twenty sixteen when they went after the
- 7:18Speaker 2: first impeachment in Russian collusion and the deep state, then
- 7:21Speaker 2: turn and then the going after people around Trump to
- 7:24Speaker 2: try to squeeze him with General Flynn and other And
- 7:27Speaker 2: that's just a few of the highlights. But we also know,
- 7:30Speaker 2: like for example, the FBI, they knew that the Steele
- 7:33Speaker 2: dossier was user generated, they classified as user generated. They
- 7:37Speaker 2: knew that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC Democrat National
- 7:40Speaker 2: Committee paid for that dossier. They knew that it was
- 7:44Speaker 2: made out of thin air. And yet the Democratic Party
- 7:46Speaker 2: still weaponize it to try to get rid and overthrow
- 7:49Speaker 2: the will of the people. That was the very beginning.
- 7:53Speaker 2: But even since then, there's been an obsession with this
- 7:56Speaker 2: idea of putting Donald Trump in prison. There has been
- 8:00Speaker 2: an obsession with him going to jail, and every time
- 8:04Speaker 2: they keep coming after him, it seems to come back
- 8:06Speaker 2: to that idea. This is now a reality that he
- 8:11Speaker 2: could in fact go to jail. And if he does,
- 8:15Speaker 2: would this be the most egregious act of election interference
- 8:19Speaker 2: that the United States of America has ever seen. Because
- 8:22Speaker 2: he's the front runner and we're within six months of
- 8:25Speaker 2: election day.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Yes, but it's already that it has already crossed that barrier.
- 8:30Speaker 3: And I understand the left, their brains have melted down.
- 8:33Speaker 3: They hate Trump so much that no norms matter, no
- 8:38Speaker 3: standards matter, the rule of law doesn't matter. They want Look,
- 8:41Speaker 3: you're seeing leftists fantasizing about murdering Donald Trump. That that's
- 8:45Speaker 3: how extreme they are. And and and you know, I'm
- 8:50Speaker 3: going to say something that may seem extremely in to
- 8:52Speaker 3: back it up, not a single elected Democrat in Washington
- 8:58Speaker 3: gives a damn about the rule of law. Now as
- 9:01Speaker 3: I say that the sort of middle of the road.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Reasonable person immediately kind of recoils and says, well, boy,
- 9:07Speaker 3: that seems extreme. Surely there's a Democrat who cares about
- 9:11Speaker 3: the rule of law. Let me suggest a test. If
- 9:14Speaker 3: you cared about the rule of law, you would speak
- 9:18Speaker 3: out against this horrific political persecution that is occurring directed
- 9:23Speaker 3: at Donald Trump. Now, listen, you don't have to love Trump.
- 9:26Speaker 3: You don't have to vote for Trump. If you're a Democrat,
- 9:28Speaker 3: I get that you wouldn't vote for Trump. You'll jump
- 9:30Speaker 3: on board with with Biden. That's okay, that's your team.
- 9:33Speaker 3: But we're not talking about who you, as standard Democrat,
- 9:39Speaker 3: senator or House member, is going to vote for. We're
- 9:42Speaker 3: talking about basic standards. Do you think it is right
- 9:45Speaker 3: to abuse the justice system to have partisan prosecutors run
- 9:50Speaker 3: and campaign saying I'm going to be elected so I
- 9:53Speaker 3: can prosecute Donald Trump? Do you think it's right for
- 9:56Speaker 3: the results of those prosecutions and over two hundred years
- 9:58Speaker 3: we've never prosecuted a former president. We now have four
- 10:02Speaker 3: pending indictments plus a ridiculous civil suit seeking a half
- 10:05Speaker 3: billion dollars from Donald Trump, all at the same time.
- 10:10Speaker 3: This is the absolute abuse of power. And I don't
- 10:13Speaker 3: know a single Democrat in the Senate, not one. They're
- 10:15Speaker 3: fifty one of them. Ben, I cannot tell you one
- 10:18Speaker 3: of my colleagues who stood up and said, hey, this
- 10:21Speaker 3: is going too far. And you know what, you now
- 10:24Speaker 3: have this judge literally saying threatening, We're going to put
- 10:28Speaker 3: Donald Trump in handcuffs and send them to prison. And
- 10:32Speaker 3: by the way, it's May. There's an election in November
- 10:35Speaker 3: where he might be just about ready to go back
- 10:37Speaker 3: to the oval office.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very interesting to watch how the media.
- 10:40Speaker 2: The media got us to this point that we are
- 10:42Speaker 2: right now. They're the ones that have taken these stories
- 10:44Speaker 2: and weaponized them and give cover to these attacks and
- 10:48Speaker 2: these ridiculous indictments of Donald Trump. But what's also interesting
- 10:53Speaker 2: now is just how scumbaggery is the best way I
- 10:57Speaker 2: can describe it with words I'm allowed to use here
- 11:00Speaker 2: the media is even while they're covering this moment.
- 11:03Speaker 3: But by the way, Bennett, it is a podcast. You're
- 11:05Speaker 3: allowed to use this any word. But I will say
- 11:08Speaker 3: it's a family friendly podcast. So even though the SCC
- 11:12Speaker 3: will not block you, I might have Rump disapprovingly if
- 11:17Speaker 3: you drop some profanities that's true.
- 11:19Speaker 2: So see, this is why I'm this is why I'm
- 11:22Speaker 2: keeping it PG. You look at and see it in
- 11:25Speaker 2: and it's like their bipolar gosh Diggley Dunnik.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
- 11:30Speaker 2: It's like their bipolar while they're covering this. So there's
- 11:34Speaker 2: this obsession with them to put Trump in jail. But
- 11:36Speaker 2: then they say, well, we're gonna make fun of Trump
- 11:39Speaker 2: and say Trump couldn't handle jail because he doesn't even
- 11:42Speaker 2: like being in a hotel. But then we're gonna say,
- 11:44Speaker 2: if the judge does this, it could have repercussions for reelection,
- 11:49Speaker 2: maybe in a negative way against Democrats. And they did
- 11:51Speaker 2: all this while live on TV listen.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Violation to the gag order since then, and my senses
- 11:57Speaker 3: he probably won't.
- 11:59Speaker 5: I just want to read more of what the judge
- 12:00Speaker 5: actually said to Trump today. He said, mister Trump, it's
- 12:02Speaker 5: important to understand the last thing I want to do
- 12:05Speaker 5: is put you in jail. You're the former president of
- 12:06Speaker 5: the United States and possibly the next president as well.
- 12:09Speaker 5: There are many reasons why incarceration is truly a last resort.
- 12:12Speaker 5: For me to take that step would be disruptive and
- 12:15Speaker 5: to these proceedings which I imagine you want to end
- 12:17Speaker 5: as quickly as possible, just politically, Caitlin.
- 12:25Speaker 1: What would this mean?
- 12:26Speaker 6: I mean, the argument is that Trump would relish it
- 12:30Speaker 6: in the sense that he would be able to argue
- 12:32Speaker 6: what he's been arguing every day outside that courtroom, that
- 12:34Speaker 6: he is being politically persecuted here, that he can't use
- 12:38Speaker 6: his First Amendment right, he can't speak freely, that this
- 12:40Speaker 6: is protected political speech. The idea that Donald Trump actually
- 12:43Speaker 6: would want to go to.
- 12:44Speaker 7: Jail is ridiculous.
- 12:45Speaker 6: Anyone who knows him knows that he doesn't even like
- 12:47Speaker 6: to stay in a hotel when he goes on foreign trips.
- 12:50Speaker 6: When he went as president, it was a whole thing
- 12:52Speaker 6: to actually get him to stay over night in places.
- 12:54Speaker 6: So this idea that he actually does want to do
- 12:57Speaker 6: this for the optics perspective, I mean, when you speak
- 13:00Speaker 6: to his closest advisors and allies, they'll say that's completely
- 13:03Speaker 6: far fetched. Now do they think it would work to
- 13:05Speaker 6: their advantage? Maybe politically, but I do think Donald Trump
- 13:09Speaker 6: heating This is something that you never see Donald Trump do,
- 13:11Speaker 6: which is actually watching his words, and he keeps acknowledging
- 13:15Speaker 6: that every time he goes into that courtroom, even if
- 13:17Speaker 6: he is lying about what the gag order actually says
- 13:19Speaker 6: he can and cannot do, he is being careful. And
- 13:22Speaker 6: he did the same thing after the Egen Carol verdicts
- 13:24Speaker 6: came out where he was found to have defamed her
- 13:26Speaker 6: and it was going to cost him a lot of money.
- 13:28Speaker 6: He changed the way that he would speak publicly about.
- 13:31Speaker 8: Her until until he to fame Drick with you in
- 13:35Speaker 8: your in your town hall, and then she ended up
- 13:38Speaker 8: bringing him back to court over that incident.
- 13:40Speaker 1: I mean, I love that there.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Even on TV when they're trying to make a point,
- 13:44Speaker 2: the other host on there's like, well, except he didn't
- 13:47Speaker 2: do what you just said, because he went back to
- 13:49Speaker 2: court for doing the exact opposite of what Caitlyn Collins
- 13:52Speaker 2: just said. And then she's like, alwa, he's a wish Oh.
- 13:54Speaker 2: He couldn't handle jail, always be afraid of it. He
- 13:56Speaker 2: can't even handle a hotel room. I mean, this is
- 13:59Speaker 2: the insanity of the media. Why anyone watches these people
- 14:03Speaker 2: is beyond me at this point.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Well, CNN hates Donald Trump. It suffuses throughout their entire
- 14:09Speaker 3: fake news media organization.
- 14:10Speaker 4: They hate him. They hate him, they hate him.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Every moment of news coverage they have is designed to
- 14:15Speaker 3: attack him. But I'm gonna make two observations. Number One,
- 14:18Speaker 3: I do not believe Donald Trump will spend a single
- 14:21Speaker 3: day in jail.
- 14:23Speaker 4: I do not believe.
- 14:24Speaker 3: I think Number one, the judge, I'm not convinced that
- 14:26Speaker 3: he has the guts to do it. I think he
- 14:28Speaker 3: recognizes it's a big damn deal. As was quoted, he's
- 14:32Speaker 3: the former president of the United States. He may well
- 14:34Speaker 3: be the next president of the United States. I don't
- 14:36Speaker 3: think this New York trial judge wants to send the
- 14:39Speaker 3: president to jail, even as he's a partisan. I think
- 14:42Speaker 3: he recognizes, Wow, that's a big step. Secondly, if he did,
- 14:46Speaker 3: I think he would end up having the order to
- 14:47Speaker 3: go to jail overturn on appeal. I think the appellate
- 14:50Speaker 3: judges would be very, very nervous to send him to jail.
- 14:54Speaker 3: So my prediction right now, Donald Trump will not serve
- 14:56Speaker 3: a day in jail. And I'm going to make a
- 14:57Speaker 3: second prediction.
- 15:00Speaker 4: Wrong.
- 15:01Speaker 3: If Donald Trump serves a day in jail, he'll be
- 15:06Speaker 3: re elected as president in November. It would be a
- 15:10Speaker 3: moment that would move the polls. And by the way,
- 15:14Speaker 3: I'll say a year ago more than a year ago,
- 15:16Speaker 3: when the first indictments were coming down against Trump, I
- 15:19Speaker 3: said on this podcast to our terrific listeners who listened
- 15:23Speaker 3: to Verdict regularly, I said, if Donald Trump is indicted,
- 15:27Speaker 3: it will be worth ten points in the polls. Now,
- 15:30Speaker 3: at the time that was viewed as kind of a
- 15:32Speaker 3: wacky proposition. I can tell you within less than a
- 15:34Speaker 3: week of the first indictment, Trump rose ten points in
- 15:37Speaker 3: the polls. That's exactly right. I'm telling you right now,
- 15:41Speaker 3: if these partisan left wing Democrats put him in jail
- 15:44Speaker 3: for even a day, Trump will win in November. It
- 15:49Speaker 3: will cost the Democrats.
- 15:50Speaker 1: The White House.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Well there's also, by the way, and this is, as
- 15:53Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, their fantasy since twenty sixteen, to put
- 15:55Speaker 2: him in jail.
- 15:56Speaker 1: They may be agreeing with you.
- 15:58Speaker 2: I'm talking about the left and specifically the media that okay,
- 16:02Speaker 2: maybe we don't want to put him in jail, and
- 16:04Speaker 2: maybe that won't happen. They've moved on to a new fantasy.
- 16:07Speaker 2: By the way, Senator Jensaki on MSNBC saying this.
- 16:11Speaker 7: I think many of them want to be close to power.
- 16:13Speaker 7: They also assume or have this thought in their mind
- 16:16Speaker 7: that maybe Donald Trump will go away. Maybe he'll go
- 16:19Speaker 7: to jail. Maybe he will die. Not to be too morbid,
- 16:23Speaker 7: but maybe. I mean, he's not a young man.
- 16:25Speaker 2: So now we moved on to dying, like, well, if
- 16:28Speaker 2: the jail thing doesn't work, well, maybe he'll just die.
- 16:32Speaker 3: So, Ben, can I ask you a question? Sure, is
- 16:35Speaker 3: Joe Biden a young man?
- 16:36Speaker 1: Yeah? No, of course he is.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Remember he can run circles around Jensaki, the former White
- 16:40Speaker 2: House President tery who you just heard speaking there, right,
- 16:43Speaker 2: It's hard to keep up with him.
- 16:44Speaker 3: They said, Look, there are fantasies on the left. I'm
- 16:48Speaker 3: reminded of, like like when Trump was president, you had
- 16:50Speaker 3: Bob Maller investigating him. Do you remember who's satur Night
- 16:54Speaker 3: Live had playing Bob Maller.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Who was it?
- 16:57Speaker 4: Robert de Niro?
- 16:58Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, And they had to zero playing Muller.
- 17:00Speaker 3: And there's one episode on SNL and I grew up
- 17:03Speaker 3: watching SNL. I've literally watched SNL for more than forty years,
- 17:07Speaker 3: going back to the nineteen seventies when I was a
- 17:09Speaker 3: little kid. But they have de Niro playing Bob Muller
- 17:14Speaker 3: and they have a point where they're they're asking him.
- 17:16Speaker 3: They say, hey, hey, are you going to get Trump
- 17:18Speaker 3: or you're getting get Trump. And his whole message was
- 17:20Speaker 3: I got him, trust me, I got him. He's going down.
- 17:24Speaker 3: And this is what is called left wing porn. This
- 17:29Speaker 3: is their fantasy Trump going to jail. They hate him,
- 17:32Speaker 3: and never mind rule of law, never mind if he's
- 17:35Speaker 3: guilty of anything. This is just I hate my opponent
- 17:39Speaker 3: and we must destroy him, and let's put him in jail.
- 17:43Speaker 3: And and that is that abuse of power is one
- 17:48Speaker 3: of the many reasons why I think we're going to
- 17:50Speaker 3: see a great election in November, because people don't want
- 17:53Speaker 3: power abuse. And by the way, to all the hypocritical
- 17:57Speaker 3: leftists who say, oh, if Trump is in power, he's
- 17:59Speaker 3: going to set up concentration camp. He's going to prosecute
- 18:02Speaker 3: all the liberals. He didn't do that before. Did you
- 18:06Speaker 3: see any concentration camps? He was president for four years.
- 18:09Speaker 3: He didn't use this power War three.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Don't forget that you shouldn't be trusted with the nuclear codes.
- 18:12Speaker 2: And yet he started no wars.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Wait, wait, who's the one who started I don't know
- 18:16Speaker 3: about World War three, but who's the one who started
- 18:18Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine? Who's the one that that withdrew
- 18:21Speaker 3: from Afghanistan and caused a disaster. Who's the one that
- 18:23Speaker 3: caused the horrific war in Israel?
- 18:26Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that with Joe Biden. Joe Biden, Joe.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Biden, yep, and and and so all of their talking
- 18:32Speaker 3: points run into real trouble when they're confronted by facts
- 18:35Speaker 3: and reality.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Final question on this, Uh, how does the left figure
- 18:40Speaker 2: out how to to deal with the political fallout if
- 18:44Speaker 2: Donald Trump survives all of this? Because on the view today,
- 18:48Speaker 2: I know you're a loyal watcher. Uh, the view, they
- 18:52Speaker 2: said they need to send a point, and a point
- 18:55Speaker 2: must be proven that Donald Trump go to jail so
- 18:57Speaker 2: that no one's above the law.
- 18:59Speaker 8: I'm sort of about whether or not he should be
- 19:01Speaker 8: held in contempt and put in He's already been held
- 19:03Speaker 8: in contempt, but put in jail for it. But I
- 19:06Speaker 8: do think that seventy one percent of Americans have said
- 19:08Speaker 8: that he should be put in jail if he is convicted.
- 19:11Speaker 8: The other thing, I will say, we all saw many
- 19:13Speaker 8: of us are old enough to have seen the oj case.
- 19:17Speaker 8: I remember how Judge Edo lost complete control of the courtroom,
- 19:20Speaker 8: and I think that had a lot to do with
- 19:22Speaker 8: the win. You cannot let Donald Trump be a runaway
- 19:27Speaker 8: train in that courtroom. No, it's not his courtroom, it's
- 19:30Speaker 8: judge's courtroom. And so I think that make a point,
- 19:32Speaker 8: to prove a point.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Put him in a clink, why not, And listen to
- 19:39Speaker 1: the audience. I mean, listen to the audience. Oh yeah,
- 19:43Speaker 1: let's put him in the clink.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Are they going?
- 19:46Speaker 2: Who I guess, yeah, let's whoop be up there. She's
- 19:49Speaker 2: excited about this idea.
- 19:52Speaker 3: I mean, it really is. This is fantasy that this
- 19:56Speaker 3: is they hate. And by the way, let's be clear.
- 19:59Speaker 3: They don't just want to put Donald Trump in jail.
- 20:01Speaker 3: They want to put you in jail. Ben They want
- 20:03Speaker 3: to put me in jail. They want to put half
- 20:06Speaker 3: of America, the deplorables, they want to put all of
- 20:08Speaker 3: us in jail. That is their fantasy. These are people
- 20:11Speaker 3: who believe. And let's let's be clear. Let me ask
- 20:14Speaker 3: you a question. Let me ask you a question.
- 20:16Speaker 4: Do you want to put Joe Biden in jail?
- 20:18Speaker 1: No?
- 20:18Speaker 4: Do you want to put Hillary Clinton in jail?
- 20:20Speaker 1: No?
- 20:20Speaker 4: Do you want to put Chuck Schumer in jail?
- 20:22Speaker 1: No?
- 20:23Speaker 2: I'd like to anybody in jail because they're a Democrat.
- 20:26Speaker 2: I only want people to go to jail that have
- 20:27Speaker 2: actually broken the wall.
- 20:29Speaker 3: I'd like to get him the hell out of office.
- 20:31Speaker 3: I'd like to get them out office. They're doing real damage.
- 20:33Speaker 3: But there is a vindictiveness, there's a self righteousness on
- 20:37Speaker 3: the left that they say, if I don't like you,
- 20:41Speaker 3: I want to put you in jail. And by the way,
- 20:43Speaker 3: you look at the fantasies where you have Democrats saying
- 20:46Speaker 3: and for Trump will take away your Secret Service protection,
- 20:49Speaker 3: so that way you just get murdered by jail gangs. Well,
- 20:52Speaker 3: who isn't that great? Will kill you like that? Is deranged?
- 20:55Speaker 2: Yeah, jen Zaki, maybe I'll die, maybe that, and maybe
- 20:58Speaker 2: that'll happen. Maybe I'll die and then we'll be done
- 21:01Speaker 2: with them. I also go back to it. We played
- 21:05Speaker 2: a montage on the show Gosh, it was probably a
- 21:07Speaker 2: year ago now, Senator, and it was a montage of
- 21:11Speaker 2: the media saying that we needed to send all Trump
- 21:15Speaker 2: supporters to camps to deprogram them.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
- 21:20Speaker 2: And when we played it, it was like, this is real, folks,
- 21:24Speaker 2: this is what they believe about you. They want to
- 21:25Speaker 2: send you to it basically camps to deprogram you from
- 21:30Speaker 2: being a conservative that supported Trump.
- 21:33Speaker 3: You know, I'm reminded about a story that I tell
- 21:36Speaker 3: in my latest book, Unwoke Ow to Defeat Culture Marxism
- 21:39Speaker 3: in America, And the last chapter in the book concerns China,
- 21:43Speaker 3: and I opened the chapter by talking about sitting down
- 21:46Speaker 3: with the Chinese ambassador to the United States, and then
- 21:49Speaker 3: this was a really creepy meeting. I don't regularly meet
- 21:53Speaker 3: with Chinese government officials. I despise communists. The Chinese ambassador,
- 21:58Speaker 3: who later became the Chinese f Or Minister, asked to
- 22:01Speaker 3: meet with me, and I wrestled with what to do,
- 22:03Speaker 3: and I decided, Okay, I'm going to take the meeting.
- 22:05Speaker 8: Now.
- 22:05Speaker 3: I'll tell you when I took the meeting, I did
- 22:07Speaker 3: not take it in my office because, frankly, I didn't
- 22:09Speaker 3: trust allowing him in my office. I didn't know if
- 22:11Speaker 3: he'd bring in listening equipment. I just I don't trust
- 22:14Speaker 3: the Chinese. Chinese people are great, I don't trust the
- 22:17Speaker 3: Chinese government that are communists and their murderers and their
- 22:21Speaker 3: liars and their abusive So instead I took the meeting
- 22:25Speaker 3: in a room in a Senate building that was far
- 22:28Speaker 3: away from my office, and I sat there and the
- 22:31Speaker 3: Chinese ambassador. I think he was expecting me to be apologetic.
- 22:35Speaker 3: He read all sorts of negative comments I'd made about China,
- 22:38Speaker 3: and he was expecting me to apologize. And I said, well,
- 22:41Speaker 3: the reason I said you're lying, murderous, torturing, evil bastards
- 22:46Speaker 3: is because you're lying murderous, torturous, evil bastards. And I'll
- 22:51Speaker 3: stop saying that. When you stop lying, you start stop murdering,
- 22:54Speaker 3: you stop torturing, and you stop being evil. And he
- 22:57Speaker 3: truly didn't know what to say. But the reason I
- 23:01Speaker 3: draw that analogy is I called him out for genocide.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Over one million weeks are in concentration camps in China
- 23:10Speaker 3: right now, and I called him out on it, and
- 23:12Speaker 3: he said, no, no, no, you are mistaken. Those are
- 23:17Speaker 3: not concentration camps. You see, these people refused to acknowledge
- 23:24Speaker 3: the legitimacy of the Chinese Communist government. So they're obviously
- 23:29Speaker 3: mentally ill. So we have put them in facilities to
- 23:34Speaker 3: give them treatment to help correct their mental illness. And
- 23:39Speaker 3: I got to say, Ben, the creepiest thing is he's
- 23:42Speaker 3: relaying this was the absolute calm with which he described this,
- 23:48Speaker 3: It was, you know, there are fairly few moments in
- 23:51Speaker 3: my time in public office that I felt like, really
- 23:56Speaker 3: the presence of evil. And Hannah Ran wrote about the
- 24:00Speaker 3: banality of evil, about about how Nazis they weren't all
- 24:05Speaker 3: just comic book villains like you know the joker in Batman,
- 24:09Speaker 3: that that many of them were ordinary people. They were
- 24:12Speaker 3: people who were bakers or shoemakers, or plumbers or electricians,
- 24:18Speaker 3: people who were regular people who became horrible mass murderers
- 24:24Speaker 3: and torturers. And what was so eerie about it was
- 24:28Speaker 3: the utter calm because of his political indoctrination in which
- 24:32Speaker 3: he said, if you disagree with the government, you are
- 24:37Speaker 3: obviously mentally ill, and we are going to put you
- 24:41Speaker 3: in a camp to treat you to cure you of
- 24:45Speaker 3: that illness. I gotta say that same approach is the
- 24:50Speaker 3: approach of the leftists. And so what do they do.
- 24:53Speaker 3: They accuse conservatives of wanting to put them in camps,
- 24:56Speaker 3: which is an utter lie. There's no one on the
- 24:58Speaker 3: conservative side because the that is not something you hear
- 25:01Speaker 3: conservatives say, but it is something that left us talk about.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Yeah, great point there.
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- 27:06Speaker 2: about what's also happening at the border. The President of
- 27:10Speaker 2: the United States of America has come out and it's
- 27:13Speaker 2: pretty clear we now know what his reelection campaign slogan
- 27:18Speaker 2: I guess for the onslaught of illegal immigrants coming into
- 27:21Speaker 2: this country is going to be.
- 27:23Speaker 1: It is.
- 27:24Speaker 2: We need to start handing out amnesty somehow. That's going
- 27:27Speaker 2: to fix the problems in this country, and it's something
- 27:30Speaker 2: that we can all be proud of if we give amnesty.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Here is the President of the United States of America,
- 27:37Speaker 2: in his own words.
- 27:38Speaker 1: I love him.
- 27:39Speaker 9: When people say why dreamers, can you imagine a kid
- 27:42Speaker 9: two years old, Sam, Mom, don't take it because real
- 27:44Speaker 9: ground is against the law. Give me a break. These
- 27:47Speaker 9: have been model citizens. Congress has to act, and the
- 27:51Speaker 9: right thing to do is to keep pushing forward until
- 27:53Speaker 9: we get it done. Get it done.
- 27:56Speaker 2: So there's this famous line, get it done. So he
- 27:58Speaker 2: is doubling down. Now not only we have a wide
- 28:00Speaker 2: open borders, we have countless millions of illegal immigrants coming in.
- 28:04Speaker 2: But he refuses to admit the carnage is taking place
- 28:07Speaker 2: in the southern border. And now it's pushing for amnesty
- 28:10Speaker 2: part one, which would be all of these, as he
- 28:13Speaker 2: describes him, dreamers, and then the next part would be well,
- 28:17Speaker 2: more illegal immigrants, and then part three would be even
- 28:19Speaker 2: more illegal immigrants. This is what he's doing for this election.
- 28:24Speaker 3: Well, listen, Biden's making clear that Joe Biden and the
- 28:26Speaker 3: Democrats they stand with illegal immigrants. And given the choice
- 28:30Speaker 3: between illegal immigrants and American citizens, they're with the illegals.
- 28:34Speaker 3: Given the choice between criminals and law abiding citizens, there
- 28:37Speaker 3: with criminals. And that is a consistent theme. It's why
- 28:41Speaker 3: eleven million people across into this country illegally, because they
- 28:45Speaker 3: look at those eleven million illegal immigrants and they say, hey,
- 28:47Speaker 3: those are future Democrat voters. We stay in power if
- 28:49Speaker 3: we let them in, and they turn a blind eye
- 28:53Speaker 3: to the people who are suffering and dying. You know
- 28:56Speaker 3: who Joe Biden didn't talk about this week? Who was
- 29:01Speaker 3: that he didn't talk about Marvin Perez Lopez. Now, who
- 29:04Speaker 3: is Marvin Perez Lopez. Well, he was arrested the last
- 29:07Speaker 3: couple of days. He is an immigrant from Guatemala. He
- 29:11Speaker 3: was arrested over the weekend for kidnapping a minor under
- 29:15Speaker 3: the age of thirteen and sexual assault. That's courting the
- 29:18Speaker 3: Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. Marvin Perez Lopez was in
- 29:23Speaker 3: the country illegally. Was arrested on May fourth. Perez Lopez
- 29:27Speaker 3: reportedly left Guatemala in early January, crossed through Mexico, and
- 29:31Speaker 3: what did he do. He turned himself into the border Patrol.
- 29:35Speaker 3: But of course, Joe Biden, being a Democrat, he turned around,
- 29:40Speaker 3: he let him go. Do you know when Perez Lopez
- 29:42Speaker 3: was given a court date, I'm.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Afraid that you're gonna say years from the moment they
- 29:47Speaker 2: let him go.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Twenty twenty seven, There you go, twenty twenty seven. He
- 29:52Speaker 3: was released, he went to Florida, and then he turned
- 29:55Speaker 3: around and he's now been charged with kidnapping a miner
- 29:59Speaker 3: under the age of th thirteen and sexual assault. Now
- 30:01Speaker 3: we're not going to say the miner's name, but we
- 30:04Speaker 3: are going to point out, week after week after week,
- 30:07Speaker 3: every single week, there's another violent crime committed by an
- 30:11Speaker 3: illegal immigrant Joe Biden releases. And what is he is
- 30:14Speaker 3: he talking about?
- 30:15Speaker 9: That?
- 30:15Speaker 3: Does he care about this child who was kidnapped and
- 30:18Speaker 3: sexually assaulted? The answer has to be known.
- 30:21Speaker 10: Now.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Look, when I say that, Ben, some people might say, gosh,
- 30:26Speaker 3: that's harsh. What do you mean he doesn't care about
- 30:28Speaker 3: a child kidnapped and assaulted. If he cared, he would
- 30:33Speaker 3: stop releasing illegal immigrants. You can't keep doing it when
- 30:39Speaker 3: you see, Hey, when I do this, children get kidnapped
- 30:43Speaker 3: and raped. Maybe I should stop doing this. That that's
- 30:47Speaker 3: actually what someone who cared about the crime and wanted
- 30:50Speaker 3: to prevent the next child from being kidnapped and raped
- 30:53Speaker 3: would do. Joe Biden, And by the way, every single
- 30:58Speaker 3: Democrat in Congress, without accept every single senator, every single
- 31:02Speaker 3: House member, they don't care either. Why do I know
- 31:05Speaker 3: they don't care, because if they cared they'd be willing
- 31:09Speaker 3: to stand up to Biden and say enough is enough,
- 31:12Speaker 3: stop releasing violent, criminal illegal aliens. And in the Senate,
- 31:17Speaker 3: every single time I forced a vote, and I've done
- 31:19Speaker 3: it over and over and over again, every Democrat, all
- 31:23Speaker 3: of them vote in favor of releasing illegal immigrants, even
- 31:27Speaker 3: if they're committing crimes against children in America.
- 31:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, there's you know, the old saying, you know,
- 31:33Speaker 2: see no evil here, no evil, right, and then you
- 31:35Speaker 2: can insulate yourself. The Democrats, though, have heard enough to
- 31:40Speaker 2: know just how bad it is the border, and now
- 31:44Speaker 2: every state's a border state, and seeing how bad it
- 31:47Speaker 2: is with what's happening, whether it's in New York City,
- 31:49Speaker 2: whether it's in Denver, Colorado. I mean it's widespread, the
- 31:53Speaker 2: chaos and the anarchy and the destruction and the abuse
- 31:57Speaker 2: of children, the sexual abuse, the human trafficking, the drugs,
- 32:03Speaker 2: the fetanol.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Is there any of your.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Colleagues that truly still don't know or is this just
- 32:09Speaker 2: a if we don't talk about then we don't have
- 32:11Speaker 2: to admit what we already know.
- 32:13Speaker 3: Look, it's hypocrisy, I'll tell you tonight. I was in
- 32:16Speaker 3: a classified briefing in the Senate. I was a classified
- 32:19Speaker 3: briefing talking about all sorts of things, including the threats
- 32:22Speaker 3: of terrorism in the United States, and there was a
- 32:25Speaker 3: Democrat senator who at some point was sharing that, based
- 32:29Speaker 3: on the briefings he'd received, there's an enormous risk of terrorism.
- 32:33Speaker 3: He's deeply worried, and we do much more to prevent it.
- 32:37Speaker 3: And I remember sitting there and thinking, Gosh, what you're
- 32:39Speaker 3: saying sounds very reasonable. Why do you keep voting in
- 32:45Speaker 3: favor of releasing eleven million legal immigrants, Like, at some point,
- 32:50Speaker 3: you can't claim I'm worried about the threat of a
- 32:53Speaker 3: terrorist attack when you have nearly two million gtaways, when
- 32:57Speaker 3: you have a Ran calling for global jahad against America,
- 33:00Speaker 3: when they have Hesbelon Hamas calling for global jihad, and
- 33:03Speaker 3: the Biden administration letting them go. And he was What
- 33:06Speaker 3: was interesting is sitting in this classified briefing, this Democrat
- 33:08Speaker 3: senator sounded emphatic, he sounded believable. I'm like, Wow, he's
- 33:13Speaker 3: really worried about a terrorist attack. But you know what,
- 33:17Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks ago, we had a vote
- 33:19Speaker 3: on the impeachment of Alejandro Majorcis, who has let eleven
- 33:22Speaker 3: million illeg immigrants grit Go, and this Democrat, along with
- 33:26Speaker 3: every single other Democrat, voted to throw the case out
- 33:29Speaker 3: to hear no evidence. They didn't care about the risk
- 33:32Speaker 3: of terrorism. That's the simple reality.
- 33:36Speaker 2: One other thing, and you talk about hypocrisy, which does
- 33:38Speaker 2: make me laugh. The Democratic Convention is going to be
- 33:42Speaker 2: held in Chicago, and we're now hearing that ahead of
- 33:48Speaker 2: the Democratic Convention, they are going to clear out the
- 33:51Speaker 2: area of illegal immigrants. Take a listen to this from
- 33:55Speaker 2: local NBC News in Chicago.
- 33:59Speaker 11: Strong reaction tonight from residents after learning Mayor Brandon Johnson
- 34:02Speaker 11: is considering plans to open a new temporary migrant shelter
- 34:06Speaker 11: in their South Side neighborhood, and he.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Don't know where to put him. Why would you put
- 34:10Speaker 1: him in our neighborhood? Well, why don't we go by
- 34:12Speaker 1: your house?
- 34:12Speaker 2: All of that money that he's given them, we've been
- 34:15Speaker 2: begging for yous.
- 34:17Speaker 10: We've lived our whole life. We have a lot of
- 34:19Speaker 10: bad things that happen here already. We do not need this,
- 34:22Speaker 10: We just do not.
- 34:23Speaker 11: Located just blocks away from Guaranteed Right Field, the proposed
- 34:26Speaker 11: building near Canal and Pershing is in the city's eleventh ward.
- 34:30Speaker 1: Look it works, Yeah, it's hit in the back. Why
- 34:34Speaker 1: is that a good location? We have no amenities here
- 34:36Speaker 1: as it is.
- 34:37Speaker 11: Alder Woman Nicole issued this letter to constituents yesterday, saying
- 34:41Speaker 11: she was notified earlier this week and met with the
- 34:44Speaker 11: mayor on Thursday. She says the city wants to move
- 34:46Speaker 11: migrants staying at the Standard Club near the Dirts and
- 34:49Speaker 11: Federal Building to her ward before the Democratic National Convention.
- 34:53Speaker 10: This is just insane. It doesn't make sense. Keep them downtown,
- 34:57Speaker 10: keep them I don't know, I mean, this is not
- 34:59Speaker 10: our problem.
- 35:00Speaker 11: The alder Woman made it clear she is against the
- 35:02Speaker 11: proposed plan, citing safety and location concerns and lack of
- 35:06Speaker 11: justification for the move. She says, quote, as our city
- 35:09Speaker 11: grapples with this unprecedented influx of migrants, it is crucial
- 35:13Speaker 11: that we handle the migrant crisis safely, responsibly, and with
- 35:17Speaker 11: full transparency. The well being of our communities must be
- 35:20Speaker 11: the top priority.
- 35:21Speaker 9: All we want to do is hal's our veterans and
- 35:24Speaker 9: they're getting kicked at aside for the people who didn't do.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Anything for this country. Yet those Mountain women honorably served,
- 35:30Speaker 1: they should be coming first.
- 35:33Speaker 2: I love the last guy there talking about our veterans.
- 35:35Speaker 2: But you go back to why they're doing this center
- 35:39Speaker 2: read behind the lines here. This is because the residents
- 35:44Speaker 2: are downtown and the area where the DNC is going
- 35:47Speaker 2: to be.
- 35:48Speaker 1: They're saying, Hey, we got to clean this up.
- 35:49Speaker 2: It's got to be nice and friendly and look good
- 35:51Speaker 2: for the Democratic National Convention. We got to move them
- 35:54Speaker 2: out of this area, all right, throw them out there
- 35:56Speaker 2: in this other part of the city.
- 35:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's exactly, And I thought they were
- 36:01Speaker 3: most revealing comment and that montage you played was the
- 36:04Speaker 3: Alderman saying, this is not our problem. Now she's a Democrat.
- 36:08Speaker 3: All of those elected officials are Democrats. They keep voting
- 36:11Speaker 3: for Democrats. They vote for a wild left wing Democrat mayor,
- 36:14Speaker 3: they vote for a wild left wing Democrat governor, they
- 36:16Speaker 3: vote for a wild left wing Democrat senator, they vote
- 36:19Speaker 3: for a wild left wing Democrat president. Every one of
- 36:22Speaker 3: those supports an invasion of this country of illegal immigrants.
- 36:26Speaker 3: And they say, well, this is not our problem. Send
- 36:28Speaker 3: them to Texas, send them to Florida, send them to
- 36:30Speaker 3: anywhere other than our state. But we want them to
- 36:32Speaker 3: keep coming in because you know what, We want them
- 36:34Speaker 3: to show up in Texas and Florida and we want
- 36:35Speaker 3: them to vote Democrats so we can be in power.
- 36:37Speaker 3: But we don't actually want to deal with this invasion.
- 36:39Speaker 3: The hypocrisy is massive and if you want to change this,
- 36:44Speaker 3: we need to have some real accountability. If they want
- 36:48Speaker 3: open borders, we ought to send every single one of
- 36:51Speaker 3: them to these blue jurisdictions until they realize eleven million people,
- 36:55Speaker 3: this is not right. They're doing it to Texas, they're
- 36:58Speaker 3: doing it to Florida, and by the way, they're doing
- 36:59Speaker 3: it to every other state in the Union. But they're
- 37:01Speaker 3: trying to be utter hypocrites and say, don't do it
- 37:04Speaker 3: to our own community.
- 37:06Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. Don't forget.
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