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Will Downing, the Prince of Sophisticated Soul, is rising above the unexpected loss of his daughter, with a new a seven-song collection CD, “Soul Rising.” · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 3: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and
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Speaker 3: B legendary superstar and Grammy now My Naty singer Will
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Speaker 3: Donald my crap brother O Make It SI celebrating impressive
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Speaker 3: thirty five years is in the industry and boasting twenty
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Speaker 3: seven albums to his credit down and continues to showcase
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Speaker 3: his international pills. Renowned as the Princess Sophisticated soul and
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Speaker 3: continues to serve as fan base to his own sophisticated
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Speaker 3: soul record label. Please welcome the money making Conversation Master
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Speaker 2: Will do.
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Speaker 3: I gotta all kind of extra now, you know, my
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Speaker 3: frat brother will all kind of.
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Speaker 4: What's up?
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Speaker 2: Oh, good brother, good Man.
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Speaker 3: I was I was interviewing Ricky Smile this week and
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Speaker 3: he said, Man, And I was telling him I was
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Speaker 3: interviewing him.
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Speaker 2: He said, Man, you know, tell Fred how I go?
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Speaker 2: Fred who? He said, will down it?
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Speaker 4: I said, what down it?
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Speaker 3: Fred?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 2: I said, you know, tell I interview.
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Speaker 3: Will Downand and I didn't know that. So Man, thank
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Speaker 3: you man for being my frat brother man. And because
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Speaker 3: your brand has is what we do. You know, friendship
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Speaker 3: is essential the soul And you're upset and everything you
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Speaker 3: do in the community all thirty five years you've been
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Speaker 3: out there uplifting me with your music and the community
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Speaker 3: again and congratulations, but welcome back to my show because
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Speaker 3: we had a lot of great things to talk about
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Speaker 3: Soul Rising. But before we get to the new CD
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Speaker 3: thirty five years twenty seven CDs, and on my show,
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Speaker 3: I try to allow celebrities or entrepreneurs like you to
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Speaker 3: give parting words or information of how they can do it,
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Speaker 3: because it's never overnight.
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Speaker 2: How did you get started, Well, Donnie in the music business.
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Speaker 5: Well, I started primarily as a background vocalist and in
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Speaker 5: the mid early to mid eighties, so I sang background
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Speaker 5: for any and everybody that would call, and I put
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Speaker 5: out a bunch of records under assumed names before I
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Speaker 5: decided to become a solo water. So I had many
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Speaker 5: twelve inch records out under different names on different labels,
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Speaker 5: and my name started circulating around the city, and you know,
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Speaker 5: in the music industry, they said.
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Speaker 4: Well, who is this guy, Who's who's got to sung
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Speaker 4: on this one? What's got to sung on this same guy?
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Speaker 5: And then eventually someone kind of said, well, if he's
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Speaker 5: doing all these records for everybody else, would he be
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Speaker 5: interested in doing his own record? And in eighty eight
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Speaker 5: I had the pleasure of signing a solo deal with
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Speaker 5: Island Records, and that's how my career started.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 5: I had an international success initially, and then around my
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Speaker 5: third record, I released an album called A dream Fulfilled
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Speaker 5: and it had songs like I Try and I Go
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Speaker 5: Crazy on there, and I was able to kind of
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Speaker 5: come on back to America and you know, solidified career here.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's kind of how I got started, and
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Speaker 5: then subsequently I released an album every year or two
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Speaker 5: since then.
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the domestic pictures to US an international
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Speaker 3: because I've heard all this that I met over the years, say, man,
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Speaker 3: you get paid.
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Speaker 2: You know, the there's a different audist out there.
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Speaker 3: Your music doesn't die as quickly as it dies in
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Speaker 3: the US. Because you said launch internationally. What are you
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Speaker 3: saying when you say internationally when it comes to music, Well, it's.
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Speaker 5: It's interesting the Europe and the United Kingdom, the UK,
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Speaker 5: the London, Manchester, Birmingham, all the surrounding cities, they are
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Speaker 5: not as single driven or singles driven as America is.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 5: For us, we play a single, we try to beat
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Speaker 5: it to death at radio, and then once that's kind
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Speaker 5: of done, we move on to the next one, and
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Speaker 5: then after that, basically your album is done.
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Speaker 4: It's it's complete.
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Speaker 5: Over there, they kind of dig more into the project
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Speaker 5: as a whole. So you know what, we have what
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Speaker 5: we would call B sides here, kind of records that's
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Speaker 5: kind of off the beaten path, that's on the record,
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Speaker 5: but not necessarily single, they kind of gravitate towards and
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Speaker 5: they love that stuff, and they taking the whole record,
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Speaker 5: so you know, they're into who played on it, where
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Speaker 5: it was recorded, you know, all that sort of stuff,
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Speaker 5: and kind of like the way we used to buy records.
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Speaker 5: We would buy a record, we'd look at it and
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Speaker 5: kind of get into the meat of the record.
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Speaker 4: They still are into that sort of thing.
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Speaker 5: And you know when you go over there, that's singing
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Speaker 5: along with you, and it's a real treat man. I mean,
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Speaker 5: and when I say Europe, I basically mean the world
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Speaker 5: because even that sort of thing happens in Japan as well.
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Speaker 4: Like they're really into the music.
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Speaker 5: They may not be able to understand, uh specifically you
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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying or what you might be saying,
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Speaker 5: but musically, you know, it crosses all, you know, all anything.
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Speaker 4: You know, people just know music and know how it
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Speaker 4: makes them feel.
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Speaker 3: So so soul Riseing is what we're coming on the
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Speaker 3: show to talk about.
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Speaker 4: How do you.
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Speaker 3: Break your music to the industry now that you know
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Speaker 3: you have an international market and you have the US market,
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Speaker 3: and the US market can be frustrating because of the
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Speaker 3: fact that these records stations, these radio stations are dominated.
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Speaker 3: I remember in the two thousands where rap took over.
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Speaker 3: It was like if you if you wanted to sing,
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Speaker 3: you have to be on a rap song to sing
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Speaker 3: to get your music played. That was like frustrating for
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Speaker 3: me because I grew up on R and B and
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Speaker 3: so I knew that R and B was my base.
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Speaker 2: But rap had took over.
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Speaker 3: So where's the industry now when it comes to playing
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Speaker 3: your type of music?
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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, man, you hit on something or you're
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Speaker 5: you're about to say something. That is a reality for
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Speaker 5: us as artists, but it may not be to most
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Speaker 5: laymen who or not in the music business. Is that
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Speaker 5: a lot of these radio stations used to be independently owned,
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Speaker 5: especially for black stations, it used to be independently OneD.
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Speaker 5: Like here in New York we had like WBLS, which
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Speaker 5: was a black owned station, or in Los Angeles you
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Speaker 5: have like a kJ LH, which is owned by Stevie Wonder,
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Speaker 5: which is a black owned station. Those stations are kind
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Speaker 5: of gone, you know, by the wayside, And a lot
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Speaker 5: of these stations now are part of like a much
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Speaker 5: bigger conglomerate. And the unfortunate part with that happening is
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Speaker 5: that there may be one person making a decision as
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Speaker 5: to what gets.
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Speaker 4: Played across the whole country. So it used to be
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Speaker 4: like the East coachs, the Northeast had a sound, the
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Speaker 4: South had a sound, the midwest Chicago, Detroit, Indianapolis had
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Speaker 4: a sound, the West coast had a sound, and the
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Speaker 4: radio stations used to cater to that sound and local
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Speaker 4: artists were able to get played.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that.
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Speaker 3: You know when I was with Steve Harvey and we
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Speaker 3: syndicated and we would have eighty cities. They would controlled
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Speaker 3: WBLS wails. You mentioned that KJL Stevie wonder we Will
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Speaker 3: mentioned that, and member w Elis owned the San Francisco station.
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Speaker 3: They owned their Coloriate South Carolina station, so that music
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Speaker 3: they can control. But when they sold, guess what they
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Speaker 3: got swallowed up and it became under doc Doc who
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Speaker 3: is over all the music for iye haarg and he
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Speaker 3: can dictate I don't want to play that sound.
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Speaker 2: I want to play this sound, and it hurts and
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Speaker 2: it frustrates you.
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Speaker 3: Why do you overcome that frustration Because a lot of
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Speaker 3: artists out there, they all breaking their music through their
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Speaker 3: YouTube channels, through the internet, but still man.
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Speaker 2: Being able to get your.
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Speaker 3: Record played on that radio is special and it reaches
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Speaker 3: the masses because it's free.
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Speaker 2: How do you do how do you do it well?
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Speaker 4: These days?
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Speaker 5: You have to have some pretty tough skin to realize
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Speaker 5: that that's going to be the case.
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Speaker 4: Right. It's a new world. This is the way they
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Speaker 4: do things now.
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Speaker 5: Even from you a consumer standpoint, people don't buy the
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Speaker 5: way they used to now. People stream. For an older
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Speaker 5: artist such as myself, adults do not stream. We don't
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Speaker 5: you know, we ain't gonna get them numbers that are
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Speaker 5: a Chris brown on or or making the Stallion. I'm
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Speaker 5: just pulling these names out.
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Speaker 2: Those are true numbers.
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Speaker 5: Right right, right, So, but kids kind of stream, older
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Speaker 5: older folks do not. Doesn't make you old. It's just
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Speaker 5: kind of a new way of doing things and we
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Speaker 5: just have not embraced it. So for an artist like myself,
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Speaker 5: I put out records now to almost be like a
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Speaker 5: card to let people know that you're still alive, You're
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Speaker 5: still available, You're still making things happen.
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Speaker 4: And the majority of what you do financially, as far
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Speaker 4: as making money is concerned, it's in the live concept.
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Speaker 3: Now you now you have a weekly show. Now does
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Speaker 3: that weekly show which also broadcast in the UK and
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Speaker 3: like twenty stations nationwide. Was that a reason that you said, Look,
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Speaker 3: I got to control my narrative. I got to be
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Speaker 3: able to put my stamp on this industry. Give other
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Speaker 3: people an industry who are frustrated, like me, don't have
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Speaker 3: a place to get their music. Gut tell us about
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Speaker 3: your weekly radio show.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a weekly radio show called The Wine Down,
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Speaker 5: and I've been doing it since two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 5: And it started because in two thousand and seven, two
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Speaker 5: thousand and six, two thousand and seven, I had taken
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Speaker 5: ill and to the point where I couldn't really tour.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't not really to I could not do it.
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Speaker 5: That was it.
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Speaker 4: So I was sort of, you know, regulated to being
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Speaker 4: in my home.
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Speaker 5: But I wanted people to know that I was still
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Speaker 5: alive and kicking, and I decided to do my radio show.
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Speaker 5: And what I decided to do was to give artists,
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Speaker 5: as you said, for a young and up and coming
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Speaker 5: up and also more established artists that didn't have the
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Speaker 5: cachet that they used to have with mainstream radio, give
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Speaker 5: them a platform for their music to be played and
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Speaker 5: It's been like that since two thousand and eight. So
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Speaker 5: I do this weekly show and I present you know
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Speaker 5: talent I you know, knew an upcoming talent and established talent.
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Speaker 5: So and I also featured myself as well. Let me
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Speaker 5: give myself an outlet. So you know, if you don't
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Speaker 5: patch yourself on the back, ain't nobody else gonna do
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Speaker 5: it for you.
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Speaker 3: So absolutely so Soul Rising, that's why you're on the show.
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Speaker 2: Talk about this new CD. What number is this? Is
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Speaker 2: it twenty seven to twenty seven?
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Speaker 3: Twenty seven out of thirty five years of live performance
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Speaker 3: and production, going from a backup career to somebody tapping
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Speaker 3: your the shoulder or hearing your voice say I want
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Speaker 3: to give you a deal at Island Records.
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Speaker 2: To now longevity.
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Speaker 3: I look back, Will, and I go, you know, because
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Speaker 3: youth is amazing, because you don't see forty, you don't
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Speaker 3: see fifty, you don't see sixty. And now that I
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Speaker 3: look back now, I go, wow, I did all that,
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Speaker 3: and I'm not saying I did anything wrong, Will, But
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Speaker 3: then I know there's more that I can do. And
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Speaker 3: that's when I think of Soul Rising. It's that why
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Speaker 3: stop age shouldn't stop me, so tell us the whole
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Speaker 3: per some soul rising and what initiated this particular seven
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Speaker 3: there's seven songs on this CD, right right?
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Speaker 2: Okay? Cool?
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Speaker 4: Correct? Correct? Well, I mean I still have a song
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Speaker 4: in my heart.
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Speaker 5: I still have something to say, and I try not
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Speaker 5: to fall into that category of agism, you know, and say, Okay,
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Speaker 5: you've been doing this a long time, you should stop,
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Speaker 5: like why. I mean, I still think I sound decent.
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Speaker 5: I still have my ears to the street. I believe
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Speaker 5: that there's a bunch of people out there that feel
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Speaker 5: the same way that I do in regards to what
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Speaker 5: I'm singing about. And for this project, this is probably
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Speaker 5: the most special project that I've ever done in my life.
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Speaker 5: At the beginning of twenty twenty three, I had a
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Speaker 5: very unfortunate thing happened to our family. My daughter passed away. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: January eleventh, My mental daughter, Shavon, who was thirty one
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Speaker 5: at the time, passed away. You know, she committed suicide.
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Speaker 5: She was dealing with mental issues and she was bipolar,
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Speaker 5: diagnosed bipolar and uh. On the eleventh, you know, I
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Speaker 5: received a telephone call from my from her mother, my wife,
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Speaker 5: that they found her, you know, in her apartment Dead. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: they listen. No one is no more sorry than me,
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Speaker 5: you know, trust me. But she was also the inspiration
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Speaker 5: for the Soul Rising Hents.
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Speaker 2: But was put I called Till We Meet Again? Right?
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Speaker 4: Till We Meet Again?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
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Speaker 5: So yeah, So the the the the album and especially
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Speaker 5: that song is to celebrate her life and.
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Speaker 3: Because because I listened to that song when it came out,
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Speaker 3: because you were kind of mad from a from a
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Speaker 3: why didn't you tell me at the beginning of that song?
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Speaker 3: Because it was It's an honest song. It's a song
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Speaker 3: about frustration, this song about I wish I knew. If
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Speaker 3: you've not listened to or seen the song, Till We
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Speaker 3: Meet Again is a passion plead for help for the
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Speaker 3: person who commit suicide, but also for the person who
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Speaker 3: didn't know and you didn't know, correct, well.
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean she and I we spoke on
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Speaker 5: a weekly basis, and when she was going through something,
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Speaker 5: you know, we'd always be able to talk her.
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Speaker 4: Now you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: If it was something a little left of center that
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Speaker 5: she wanted to do or was planning on doing. It
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Speaker 5: was kind of like ash Shavan, I wouldn't do that, Hey,
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't go there. Hey, maybe you shouldn't hang out
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Speaker 5: with this person, man, maybe you shouldn't. It was a
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Speaker 5: lot of those sort of things and trying to be
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Speaker 5: as encouraging as possible, and we were always able to
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Speaker 5: kind of level out whatever she was going through mentally.
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Speaker 4: And in this case, you know, she just left a note.
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Speaker 5: Like like Shaman, all these other times where you were
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Speaker 5: going through this, you called, regardless of whatever time it
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Speaker 5: was or anything.
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Speaker 4: You made a phone call.
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Speaker 5: Every time I would see her name pop up on
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Speaker 5: my phone, I pick up because of you know, not
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Speaker 5: wanting what happened to happen, something to escalate into something
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Speaker 5: that we couldn't control.
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Speaker 4: And she just she didn't call. She didn't call.
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Speaker 5: She made phone calls to every one in the family
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Speaker 5: days prior, but we didn't know it was going to
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Speaker 5: lead to this. So I guess it was something that
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Speaker 5: she was internally battling, right, and so that.
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Speaker 3: That was a connection to it, Soul rising, you know, correct,
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Speaker 3: you led to the first single I Believe, which is
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Speaker 3: what part of My Love, which again going over to
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Speaker 3: the UK, that's where you dropped it.
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Speaker 5: Right right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, well you know
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Speaker 5: the world is into music. So you know, you go
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Speaker 5: where you are accepted, not saying that I'm not accepted here,
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Speaker 5: but the outlet for being able to be heard is
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Speaker 5: greater there, and I have more options there as opposed
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Speaker 5: to hear. You know, it's not like we didn't service
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Speaker 5: the record to all of the American stations. It's just
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Speaker 5: that there's some political things and politics that go on
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Speaker 5: and getting a record played that a lot of people
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Speaker 5: don't know about, and it's very difficult at times, and
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Speaker 5: people are slow to jump on the record. But you know,
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Speaker 5: the world jumped on this one. It's a great song
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Speaker 5: for my stepping folks. If you a stepper, your hand dancer, whatever.
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Speaker 4: There you go.
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Speaker 5: That on two step, there you go, There you go.
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Speaker 2: Has been five years in Chicago. You know when you
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Speaker 2: say stepping, I know, come on down.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 3: That's why I know that when I bring you on
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Speaker 3: the show, my whole thing is not so much to
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Speaker 3: talk about the industry, but talk about the opportunities because
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Speaker 3: I know how this industry plays the music and it.
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Speaker 2: Denies I've been there. I've been there.
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Speaker 3: When you know when they change the whole music rating,
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Speaker 3: fat Man and Black Radio was like ostracize a lost platforms,
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Speaker 3: jazz was dying and things like that when they changed
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Speaker 3: the media profile.
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Speaker 2: And then that turns around to go, well, you know
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Speaker 2: his music is a little slow.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's jazz, if it's R and B,
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Speaker 3: and that m is frustrated because I'm music.
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Speaker 2: I make people happy, I make them feel good.
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Speaker 3: People want to buy me if you give me a shot,
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Speaker 3: but they don't even give a shot because.
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Speaker 2: Guess what they worry about their job. They were about
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Speaker 2: that opportunity.
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Speaker 3: But the main thing of me coming on this show
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Speaker 3: is this is a new opportunity. And that's the smartness
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Speaker 3: of what you're trying to tell. Anybody who's listening understand that. Okay,
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Speaker 3: if this says no, find other options. And that's what
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Speaker 3: you're doing.
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Speaker 5: Correct, Absolutely absolutely, and that should be everyone's attitude with everything.
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Speaker 5: You know, you're gonna hear more nose than yesters in
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Speaker 5: your lifetime. Uh, and you just have to kind of
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Speaker 5: stick with what you know, stick with what you do best.
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Speaker 4: Don't be afraid to take chances.
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Speaker 5: You know, you got to live, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 5: You can't just I would recommend not to be put
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Speaker 5: in that box and just kind of say if someone
18:23
Speaker 5: told me, no, someone I can't do this, I shouldn't
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Speaker 5: do this. I should like if that's what you feel.
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Speaker 5: You know, we're living in the world. Now we'll go
18:29
Speaker 5: with what you go. Go for it, you know, but
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Speaker 5: just realize that you're gonna hear more nose than yeses,
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Speaker 5: and then one of those yesses might lead to something else,
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Speaker 5: and you just keep going.
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Speaker 3: Okay, where can we get the album? Where can we
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Speaker 3: get to single? Let's put that on the stream. Now,
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Speaker 3: let's start selling your music right now.
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Speaker 5: If you want to pick up the album, come to
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Speaker 5: the Prince of Sophisticated Soul dot com the Prince of
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Speaker 5: Sophisticated Soul dot com and you can pick up the
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Speaker 5: new record as well as some of the classic stuff
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Speaker 5: as well. And if you want to find out if
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Speaker 5: I'm coming to a town there, you just go to
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Speaker 5: well Downing dot com and that'll tell you, uh, you
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Speaker 5: know where I'll be and hopefully I'll be in a city,
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Speaker 5: a town or country or whatever near you and come
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Speaker 5: on out and come see the shows. And if you
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Speaker 5: want to catch me on social media, I'm well down
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Speaker 5: in three on Instagram. You want to catch me on Facebook,
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Speaker 5: I'm well down in singer on Facebook.
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Speaker 3: When you say when you say you know the benchance,
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Speaker 3: you're talking about million ways?
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Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, nothing felt like this.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And that's what I like to hear when
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Speaker 5: i'm I like to look at As soon as people
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Speaker 5: hear that that piano stuff, hands go up. But brothers
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Speaker 5: are like, yes, I love it, I love it.
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Speaker 3: It's really a beautiful thing. Just break down this whole
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Speaker 3: lout you talked about this lead single. Who's producing it,
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Speaker 3: who's participating, who's singing on the album. Let's give some
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Speaker 3: love to everybody who put this together, the twenty seventh
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Speaker 3: album of your career, your thirty five year career as.
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Speaker 2: A musical performing artist. Give us some more information by
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Speaker 2: Soul Rising, you.
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Speaker 4: Got it well.
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Speaker 5: For the first single that came out, Till We Meet Again,
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Speaker 5: I was featuring Nase saxophonist Nase on the project, so
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Speaker 5: that's him playing. I have a bunch of my musical
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Speaker 5: friends that I've worked with over the years, kind of
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Speaker 5: producing and co producing and co writing with me. So
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Speaker 5: people like Randy Bolan on guitar, Chris Big Dog Davis,
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys are hip to him,
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Speaker 5: incredible keyboardist and producer.
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Speaker 4: Actually, we did a.
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Speaker 5: Great cover of a classic Stylistic song, Yours Writer's Rain.
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Speaker 5: If you're not hip to that song, obviously go check
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Speaker 5: out my version, but go back and check out the
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Speaker 5: original as well, featuring Russell Tompkins Junior from the Stylistics,
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Speaker 5: So I kind of give a twist on that song
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Speaker 5: as well. Content wise, as you said, we got our
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Speaker 5: songs steppers. We obviously have the songs that are for
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Speaker 5: those who need to be inspired in some sort of
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Speaker 5: way and maybe it touches their heart until we meet again.
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Speaker 5: A bunch of songs on hire Man, you know, just
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Speaker 5: just doing doing what I do. If you like classic
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Speaker 5: well doubting, you're going to love, love love this autum.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's important that people understand that your music, your career,
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Speaker 3: This music is about. This song is what I read,
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Speaker 3: is about healing too. It's about healing for you, healing
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Speaker 3: for people because it's really interesting about sadness and pain
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Speaker 3: and death. It's not something you are uniquely experiencing. Was
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Speaker 3: I was talking to Ricky Smile and he was talking
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Speaker 3: about because you know, he recently lost his son.
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Speaker 4: Right yeah, livingly a couple of weeks after.
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Speaker 2: Mind yeah, and he was saying that the Ray Sean,
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Speaker 2: I had to go back to work. You know.
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Speaker 3: He said he remembered that he was doing a comedy
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Speaker 3: show recently and the people on the front row, they
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Speaker 3: were burying their son.
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Speaker 2: It was like on a Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: They were burying their son on that weekend, and they said,
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Speaker 3: he realized his purpose. And I think that one of
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Speaker 3: the main things where I always give you support because
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Speaker 3: of the fact that I really my purpose is to
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Speaker 3: position myself to continue to support.
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Speaker 2: Your music and music like yours, because everybody's not rapping
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Speaker 2: at the funeral.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's not rapping, you know, when they're trying to feel good,
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Speaker 3: they're trying to get sexy. You know, it's a music.
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Speaker 3: Everybody don't need music be screaming in their ear. We
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Speaker 3: just need time to find ourselves. We need time to heal,
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Speaker 3: we need time to feel good about ourselves.
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Speaker 2: At a pace. That's what your music does.
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Speaker 3: Will you will Your music has always done that for
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Speaker 3: me and I just want to remind you whenever.
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Speaker 2: You get frustrated, call Reshak Rashan put me on the air.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that.
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Speaker 3: I'm so as twenty four my format from a podcast standpoint,
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Speaker 3: being on Fox, Sohoul, being in a platform where they
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Speaker 3: recognize the information and to acquire the camp. It's going
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Speaker 3: to get bigger to load this frat, brother. As I
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Speaker 3: get bigger, the phone calls are going to.
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Speaker 2: Be mean a little bit more.
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Speaker 3: Not that they didn't mean more, but they're gonna mean
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Speaker 3: more because I want to contribute my growth, my blessings
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Speaker 3: and keep sharing them with you.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 4: That's a beautiful thing. Man.
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Speaker 5: And anytime you need my support, you know I'm there, brother.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate it again. Appreciate you again.
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Speaker 2: Tell us where it gets soul rising.
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Speaker 3: You know the lead single off thans Is already it
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Speaker 3: was the top thirty in the UK.
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Speaker 2: What part of my love? What do you get it there?
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Speaker 5: Then you go, I love it? I love it. Come
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Speaker 5: to the fronts of Sophisticated Soul dot com and you
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Speaker 5: can find my music there. And come to Willdowning dot
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Speaker 5: com and it'll tell you if I'm coming to a
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Speaker 5: town city state country need come on before we.
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Speaker 2: Go to your tour day? Do you tour like are yours?
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Speaker 2: Bring Guy, Summer God fall Guy. When do you pick
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Speaker 2: up most of your tour dates?
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Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't end, it doesn't.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: We're a little bit everywhere.
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Speaker 5: I try to do it strategically so that I'm not
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Speaker 5: necessarily in the states that get a lot of bad weather,
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Speaker 5: a lot of cold, So you ain't gonna find me
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Speaker 5: in Minneapolis and in February. So we try to strategically
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Speaker 5: do things. But I'm always on the road. I'm always
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Speaker 5: somewhere man so where East West, we're international. We're going
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Speaker 5: overseas to London and to Manchester and Birmingham and places
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Speaker 5: like that in March. So if you want to come
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Speaker 5: overseas and see an international show and then see how
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Speaker 5: how the people react to the music, there shome on.
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Speaker 4: In the words of Michael Jackson, come on, shum.
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Speaker 3: And so that means that just go to your website,
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Speaker 3: and the website, the music, the soul rising.
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Speaker 4: The everything that you need is right there.
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Speaker 2: Everything's there again.
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Speaker 3: Fred brother well down In a member of a Mega
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