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- 1:01Speaker 1: My guests, so money Making Conversations. Master Class Today is Anthony.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Anthony flem In the Third Anthony as an actor and
- 1:07Speaker 1: is known for his role in Fox. Some of these
- 1:10Speaker 1: are just some of the role. Man has a tremendous
- 1:12Speaker 1: resume Foxes television series prison Break. He's also appealed on Divergent,
- 1:16Speaker 1: NBC's Chicago Fire. But currently he's starting in the shows
- 1:20Speaker 1: that I watched every Sunday. Power Book four fours, a
- 1:24Speaker 1: ten episode drama said in Chicago. One of my favorite
- 1:27Speaker 1: cities is the third in Starmer to the Power Universe.
- 1:30Speaker 1: You know Power University, you know got an MC Universe,
- 1:33Speaker 1: you got DC Universe, Now you got Power University. It's
- 1:36Speaker 1: the fourth book. Powell breaks apart and comes together all
- 1:40Speaker 1: different types of family or everybody is surrounded by Tommy.
- 1:42Speaker 1: But here's a character that JP did. He plays on
- 1:45Speaker 1: the show Gifted jazz musician. Let him know. I played,
- 1:49Speaker 1: you know, B flash saxophone and tenor saxophone, But I
- 1:52Speaker 1: know I have no skill beyond that. Who owns and
- 1:54Speaker 1: operator at blues club with his ailing father that has
- 1:57Speaker 1: been the target of several attacks by local gang members.
- 2:00Speaker 1: As Richard JP's life feels he still cares to pain
- 2:02Speaker 1: and never having a mother in his life and having
- 2:05Speaker 1: a son he has no relationship with. JP's world is
- 2:08Speaker 1: thrown off his axis when he crosses path with the
- 2:11Speaker 1: one and Only Tommy. Please. Welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass,
- 2:15Speaker 1: Anthony Flaming the Third. How you're doing, sir, I'm doing great.
- 2:19Speaker 1: How you doing? Brother? Oh? Pretty good? I try to
- 2:20Speaker 1: say everything up. Man, let everybody know who I'm talking to. Anthony.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit more about you. Where you
- 2:25Speaker 1: based at right now? Anthony born and raised in Chicago.
- 2:28Speaker 1: I currently live in Chicago. Well, I was in Chicago
- 2:32Speaker 1: with Steve Harry. Now I was up to doing this
- 2:33Speaker 1: talk show from twenty twelve to twenty seventeen. So Chicago
- 2:38Speaker 1: quickly became one of my favorite cities. Man, now that
- 2:43Speaker 1: I do, I will tell you this, and you could
- 2:45Speaker 1: probably agree with me on this. I have clothes that
- 2:47Speaker 1: I had to buy because of the winner. I can't
- 2:49Speaker 1: wear nowhere else. Anthony, you got you got to dress
- 2:53Speaker 1: in Chicago. You know how it is. You got to
- 2:56Speaker 1: lay your up right. I got the hats, I got,
- 3:01Speaker 1: I got facial I got everything, but the beauty of Chicago.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Talk to us a little bit about that. That That that
- 3:08Speaker 1: that the culture of Chicago, the black Culture's Chicago the
- 3:12Speaker 1: scenes because the food's outstanding, the black cultures outstanding. And
- 3:17Speaker 1: that little summer it gives you is amazing. The little
- 3:20Speaker 1: summer it gives you really makes you appreciate it. Doesn't
- 3:22Speaker 1: it come un these winters? Yes? Um, But yeah, Chicago.
- 3:26Speaker 1: You know, I'm born and raised here, so I'm a
- 3:28Speaker 1: little biased, but I think it's you know, it's a
- 3:31Speaker 1: fantastic city. It's a great place to grow up. I've
- 3:34Speaker 1: heard it said that Chicago is a city that can
- 3:35Speaker 1: both break your heart and feel your heart at the
- 3:38Speaker 1: same time. Yes, there is a there is a duality
- 3:42Speaker 1: to my city that I think resonates with a lot
- 3:45Speaker 1: of people. So I'm sure it's that way in a
- 3:47Speaker 1: lot of cities, but Chicago. I really feel it here,
- 3:49Speaker 1: and Tommy is definitely feeling it um as she comes
- 3:53Speaker 1: here and tries to set up camp. Well, you know,
- 3:55Speaker 1: the interesting part about it is that being the fact
- 3:58Speaker 1: that I lived in New York four years, I'm originally
- 4:00Speaker 1: mused in Texas. I lived in New York for years,
- 4:02Speaker 1: so I know that the whole apple, the whole borough atmosphere.
- 4:06Speaker 1: How you know, how you really you know, the transportation
- 4:09Speaker 1: is different When he came to Chicago, I knew it
- 4:13Speaker 1: would be a different field because you know, you really
- 4:15Speaker 1: do have to drive everywhere in New York. You really don't.
- 4:18Speaker 1: They have transit systems in Chicago, but New York, you
- 4:21Speaker 1: really can be a guy who don't need a drive.
- 4:24Speaker 1: It's license in New York. And when you get to Chicago. Well,
- 4:28Speaker 1: what your relationship was introduced? How I'm just letting everybody know.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I watched a series of regularation, but I'd like for
- 4:33Speaker 1: you to just tell the audience your relationship with Tommy
- 4:36Speaker 1: so we can build off of that. No storytelling. You're
- 4:39Speaker 1: talking about JP's relationship. Yeah, Well, JP and Tommy meet
- 4:44Speaker 1: at a time when, as you had mentioned, JP is
- 4:47Speaker 1: sort of in a desperate situation. His father is sick.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Him and his father owned this jazz club together. His
- 4:52Speaker 1: father is also a musician, and this jazz club is
- 4:56Speaker 1: sort of a dream for both of them. So his
- 4:58Speaker 1: father is sick, just putting JP in a financial crisis.
- 5:03Speaker 1: So he's the club is in foreclosure and also it's
- 5:07Speaker 1: getting shot up by local gang members and he doesn't
- 5:09Speaker 1: understand why. So he is a brother who is losing
- 5:14Speaker 1: pieces of himself, his father, his club, he's estranged from
- 5:17Speaker 1: his son. He has that residual pain and memory of
- 5:23Speaker 1: not growing up with his mother. So he's losing pieces
- 5:26Speaker 1: of himself, as is Tommy. Tommy is rolling into town
- 5:30Speaker 1: having left everything in New York behind. You know, he
- 5:32Speaker 1: leaves town with just such tragic loss that he's experienced.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Everyone who's ever been close to him is gone or
- 5:40Speaker 1: has pushed him away, some by his own hand, you know.
- 5:43Speaker 1: So he's got his car, is that beautiful Mustang. He
- 5:46Speaker 1: drives a bag full of cash and a couple of
- 5:49Speaker 1: burning phones, and he's coming to Chicago to start over,
- 5:53Speaker 1: to reimagine what he can be. But it's a whole
- 5:56Speaker 1: new city to learn the whole new grid. As you know,
- 5:58Speaker 1: Chicago is not New York. There's both big cities, but
- 6:01Speaker 1: they're both different cities. So he's got to learn the
- 6:04Speaker 1: whole new situation here. But also he had to learn
- 6:06Speaker 1: that you and him are walking shoots, superciz of the streets.
- 6:10Speaker 1: When he had power, he was running with his board
- 6:11Speaker 1: ghosts and both were drug dealers. You're not remotely in
- 6:15Speaker 1: the drug game. Drug business. I want to get into
- 6:17Speaker 1: the drug business. How do you deal with that characterization
- 6:21Speaker 1: of of of eventually learning about who he really is,
- 6:24Speaker 1: but also the fact that he comes into your character's
- 6:27Speaker 1: life and he is your I guess you can say
- 6:30Speaker 1: half brother Tommy is. He is my heaven brother. Yeah,
- 6:33Speaker 1: and that's something that is very real. And being that
- 6:36Speaker 1: you're black and he's white and technically you know what
- 6:38Speaker 1: I'm saying from a visual exactly, but still, you know,
- 6:43Speaker 1: none of that really matters when it comes to family,
- 6:45Speaker 1: because that's real. I mean, there's there's no family that
- 6:48Speaker 1: is all just one thing. I think you'll find that
- 6:50Speaker 1: mixing and interracial mixing and a lot of families. You know,
- 6:53Speaker 1: I myself and interaction. My father is black, my mother
- 6:55Speaker 1: is Filipino, right, so you know that we are trying
- 7:00Speaker 1: to find our shared pass. We both have this shared
- 7:03Speaker 1: past that we don't remember. So when Tommy comes into town,
- 7:08Speaker 1: you know, the grandmother is the connection and the show.
- 7:10Speaker 1: He is going to visit his grandmother once he finds
- 7:13Speaker 1: out his grandmother is alive, and that's where him and
- 7:15Speaker 1: I meet. So it's about finding out who we were
- 7:19Speaker 1: once upon its time. It was funny because he you know,
- 7:23Speaker 1: he would like you know, his character because it was
- 7:25Speaker 1: shocked and surprise. But you know what I think I
- 7:28Speaker 1: love about that Joseph who plays the character, the lead
- 7:31Speaker 1: character of the series, who came over from Power, is that,
- 7:34Speaker 1: you know, Tommy is a guy who just shakes it
- 7:36Speaker 1: off his character. You know, you give him information, he
- 7:39Speaker 1: just shakes it off. You know, he shoot somebody, he
- 7:41Speaker 1: shakes it off. He finds it, he finds out to you,
- 7:44Speaker 1: his brother, he thinks about it. Go okay, okay, whatever,
- 7:47Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's let's roll you. You you're my kid.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I'm good with it, and so let's let's go back
- 7:52Speaker 1: to you know, I'll be honest with you, you know,
- 7:55Speaker 1: all the way to Power series with the very first episode.
- 7:58Speaker 1: And then I remember when I read the reports about
- 8:01Speaker 1: fifty Cents doing a series owned stars about a drug
- 8:06Speaker 1: dealer who owned a nightclub. To me, I couldn't even
- 8:10Speaker 1: wrap my head around that is something I would watch.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I really did first. But but they've developed talking about
- 8:16Speaker 1: Courtney Kemp and him have developed such a series. It's
- 8:19Speaker 1: really family driven. It's face about family. So tell us
- 8:23Speaker 1: about your journey before you became cast on this series
- 8:28Speaker 1: with the original series, and what what what what? What
- 8:31Speaker 1: attracted you to the Power original series? And then what
- 8:34Speaker 1: motivates you to continue and the successful role As to
- 8:37Speaker 1: your plans JP, well, you know, to keep it on
- 8:40Speaker 1: one honest, I was into the original series while it
- 8:43Speaker 1: was out, but I wasn't, you know, dying hard. I
- 8:45Speaker 1: knew it because I know Joseph personally. You know, Joseph
- 8:49Speaker 1: is from Chicago, and him and I have worked together
- 8:51Speaker 1: on stage before, so we've you know, we've been on
- 8:54Speaker 1: stage before and we've remained friends over the years. So
- 8:57Speaker 1: my connection to the show was through him, right, And
- 9:00Speaker 1: but once I was cast in the show, of course,
- 9:04Speaker 1: Marathon the whole the whole Verse season I'm talking about. Man,
- 9:07Speaker 1: it was like sixty five episodes in a very short
- 9:10Speaker 1: amount of time. Yes, sir, But you get pulled in
- 9:13Speaker 1: that way. The characters are so well written, they're so dynamic,
- 9:17Speaker 1: they're so complex, they're so flawed in a lot of ways,
- 9:21Speaker 1: you know, and incomplete, and everybody's searching for something. Power
- 9:25Speaker 1: is always shifting, and everybody's always trying to grab that
- 9:27Speaker 1: power in whatever form that they are that they are
- 9:31Speaker 1: chasing it, you know, and like you say, it's also
- 9:33Speaker 1: about family. Tommy comes into town and it's about how
- 9:37Speaker 1: his effect is on other families, houses effect on the
- 9:41Speaker 1: CBI brothers. You know, what is Tommy doing to that family? Yeah?
- 9:44Speaker 1: What is his what is his presence doing to the
- 9:47Speaker 1: Flynn flamming? You know the Flynn family. That's hard to
- 9:50Speaker 1: say real quickly, but you know the family that's been
- 9:53Speaker 1: established here in Chicago and our story, Um, you know
- 9:56Speaker 1: he's coming in and disrupting things. You know, the daughter
- 9:59Speaker 1: and the Sun both kind of want to do their
- 10:00Speaker 1: own thing with Tommy. So those layers of what makes
- 10:03Speaker 1: it interesting correct anthem definitely. And then you know in
- 10:07Speaker 1: the scene there's a scene where Tommy and JP and
- 10:11Speaker 1: JP's father are sitting around talking and you know JP's
- 10:15Speaker 1: father is just like, you know, who is this white boy? Right?
- 10:17Speaker 1: What are your what are your intentions? Uh breazing back
- 10:21Speaker 1: into town? You know, what are you trying to get
- 10:22Speaker 1: out of JP? So yeah, all of that family dynamic
- 10:25Speaker 1: is just lay it throughout the show, and I think
- 10:27Speaker 1: it pulls everybody in because I mean, maybe not to
- 10:31Speaker 1: this heightened level for everybody, but it's definitely something that
- 10:33Speaker 1: resonates with our power fan base. We'll be right back
- 10:37Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now,
- 10:45Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Or the thing about it I always tell people, because
- 10:53Speaker 1: I was looking at The Fast and Furious nine, you know,
- 10:55Speaker 1: if you look through that whole storyline, that's all they
- 10:58Speaker 1: talk about his family, you know, every so it always
- 11:00Speaker 1: ends there at some dinner table where a unite. So
- 11:03Speaker 1: you know, the whole concept is family. They can race
- 11:07Speaker 1: cars and blow it up and all that stuff, but
- 11:08Speaker 1: it always goes back to family. Same thing with power,
- 11:12Speaker 1: same thing with ghosts. It's about family. And so in
- 11:15Speaker 1: this story they really introducing the rather unique relationship because
- 11:20Speaker 1: no one would have seen this coming. You know, Tommy
- 11:23Speaker 1: going to Chicago, who has a half brother who's black,
- 11:26Speaker 1: whose mom had a relationship with a black man. So
- 11:29Speaker 1: Tommy has to deal with that relationship. But he's also,
- 11:32Speaker 1: like you said, introduced to all these other families where
- 11:34Speaker 1: he's just like flipping switches. He plus he's carrying that
- 11:38Speaker 1: baggage from New York into Chicago. So when you when
- 11:42Speaker 1: you looking at all this this world, this I would
- 11:46Speaker 1: say confusion, but I say, drama happen to line you?
- 11:49Speaker 1: How does your character layer itself into this show? Well,
- 11:54Speaker 1: Tommy is in jpne you know, they're they're vetting each
- 11:57Speaker 1: other out. Tommy is trying to see can he trust JP? Right?
- 12:01Speaker 1: You know? Can? Can we? Can I pull JP in?
- 12:05Speaker 1: And that's another thing Tommy has to decide once he
- 12:07Speaker 1: finds out that he does have family here in Chicago
- 12:09Speaker 1: with JP. How do you protect him? Do you pull
- 12:12Speaker 1: them closer to you or do you push them away
- 12:14Speaker 1: from you? Do I want to bring them into this
- 12:16Speaker 1: fold or you know? Now, I'm gonna just keep it
- 12:19Speaker 1: moving past them. But I think the more that they uncover,
- 12:22Speaker 1: the more that they discover about their shared pass and
- 12:24Speaker 1: JP and Tommy sees JP's intentions, I think we'll see
- 12:29Speaker 1: JP definitely playing a bigger role in Tommy's world. I
- 12:32Speaker 1: had to has to it. And I'm gonna just give
- 12:34Speaker 1: you some backstory on our you know, PowerBook four fours
- 12:37Speaker 1: when it premiered, if it premiered to the highest numbers
- 12:40Speaker 1: in Stars history, and I was one of those people
- 12:42Speaker 1: who generated that premiere and it comes on every Sunday
- 12:46Speaker 1: on Stars. I'm on them on the East Coast, So
- 12:49Speaker 1: it's on eight o'clock, So I'm two and seven o'clock Central,
- 12:51Speaker 1: eight o'clock on the West Coast, and I just find
- 12:54Speaker 1: the characters. You know, the episode can anywhere be from
- 12:57Speaker 1: forty five to an hour and five minutes long. They
- 13:00Speaker 1: make very each week. But when I when I look
- 13:02Speaker 1: at your characters, because I want to die, dive deeper
- 13:05Speaker 1: into that because of the fact that we kind of
- 13:07Speaker 1: talked about it. You know, you've been you've had a
- 13:09Speaker 1: pain for life. You know, you grew up without a mom,
- 13:12Speaker 1: your father's ailing, and then you have a son. So
- 13:15Speaker 1: and I think that's really important because we're talking about
- 13:17Speaker 1: a black man who, in the culture that we live in,
- 13:21Speaker 1: not to have a son in his life. So give
- 13:23Speaker 1: everybody to the backstories. Why isn't that Why isn't your
- 13:26Speaker 1: son in your life? And JP's son is not in
- 13:30Speaker 1: his life and he was until he was about three
- 13:32Speaker 1: maybe four years old. JP loved becoming a father and
- 13:35Speaker 1: he loves his son very much. That's also, you know,
- 13:38Speaker 1: feeds into the tragedy of it. This is a brother
- 13:40Speaker 1: who wants a relationship with his son. You know, m
- 13:45Speaker 1: JP came out to his wife at the time that
- 13:47Speaker 1: he was gay, and when that happened, when he decided
- 13:51Speaker 1: to live his life that way, his wife at the
- 13:56Speaker 1: time took their son away from him, and JP has
- 14:00Speaker 1: tried to find him after all this time, in many
- 14:02Speaker 1: years as far as the backstory is concerned, but he
- 14:05Speaker 1: can't find them. So essentially he has no connection to
- 14:09Speaker 1: a child of his who is out here in the world,
- 14:11Speaker 1: and that it's just a big void, a big hole
- 14:15Speaker 1: in JP's life, you know. Um. So that's why when
- 14:18Speaker 1: he's uncovering more and more about his past and how
- 14:21Speaker 1: his mother Kate Tommy and JP's mother Kate left JP
- 14:25Speaker 1: to raise to raise Tommy, you know, he is repeating
- 14:29Speaker 1: that pattern and that cycle, and it's just weighing very
- 14:33Speaker 1: heavily on JP. He wants nothing more than to be
- 14:36Speaker 1: a father to his son, um. But when he did
- 14:39Speaker 1: come out, which takes a lot of bravery to do that,
- 14:43Speaker 1: to be able to say I'm going to stop living
- 14:44Speaker 1: my life as a lie and I'm going to live
- 14:46Speaker 1: it honestly. But he did that and it cost him dearly.
- 14:50Speaker 1: It costs him a relationship with his son, you know.
- 14:53Speaker 1: And the tragedy of that is is something that you know,
- 14:58Speaker 1: was real, really great to work with as an actor,
- 15:03Speaker 1: to really dive into that and to see Howard shapes
- 15:05Speaker 1: and forms JP's world. Cool. Now I'm talking to Anthony
- 15:10Speaker 1: Fleming the Third. He plays your role JP on this
- 15:13Speaker 1: very on the very popular power book Forward Force. He
- 15:16Speaker 1: plays Tommy's half brother. Um, you know, I have a daughter,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and because when I when I look at your character,
- 15:24Speaker 1: you know, I think about I'm kind of mad when
- 15:27Speaker 1: I say that. But this is just let me finish it,
- 15:29Speaker 1: because this is a good thing. Because if if my daughter,
- 15:34Speaker 1: you know, if I left me at three for some
- 15:36Speaker 1: reason I couldn't control, and then I saw her again
- 15:40Speaker 1: at sixteen or eighteen and eighteen, I would be so
- 15:43Speaker 1: hurt because I know there were so many things that
- 15:46Speaker 1: I would have taught her, I would have poured into
- 15:50Speaker 1: her that would have made her. I feel a better
- 15:52Speaker 1: person that I get from your care. That's am I
- 15:56Speaker 1: reading the same type of hurt that you're delivering on
- 15:58Speaker 1: screen in your character. It feels like when you look
- 16:01Speaker 1: at that photo, it's a lot of pain in that
- 16:04Speaker 1: photo because you know what could have been if you
- 16:06Speaker 1: would have been allowed to live a life as a
- 16:09Speaker 1: father for this young man. Oh, there's definitely pains. There
- 16:14Speaker 1: is so much pain associated with having a child of yours,
- 16:18Speaker 1: something that came from your body. Yes, sir, that is
- 16:22Speaker 1: out here in the world and you have no connection
- 16:24Speaker 1: to it. You don't know if that child is one alive.
- 16:29Speaker 1: If it is the child is alive, is it's safe,
- 16:32Speaker 1: it's my child taking care of you know, basic needs,
- 16:35Speaker 1: and you know, what is the relationship? How is this
- 16:38Speaker 1: child seeing the world? What is this child experience? So
- 16:42Speaker 1: not to have any connection is it's heartbreaking, you know,
- 16:47Speaker 1: it's it's his biggest regret and it's his biggest the
- 16:52Speaker 1: biggest pain in his life. Definitely, where's your character going
- 16:56Speaker 1: as far as the evolution of the character in these
- 16:58Speaker 1: overall ten episodes, that's all they shot for this, and
- 17:01Speaker 1: it looks like those ratings are where I think they are.
- 17:04Speaker 1: We're all going to be seeing more episodes in the future.
- 17:07Speaker 1: That has not been announced yet as we are interviewed
- 17:09Speaker 1: on this particular episode, but probably four forced by man.
- 17:13Speaker 1: I enjoy your character, Anthony. I enjoy the show. You know, Uh,
- 17:18Speaker 1: sometimes it's over the top of the head I'm watching television.
- 17:20Speaker 1: I ride with it. I ride with it because it's
- 17:22Speaker 1: fun and you know Rachean, we actually did get picked
- 17:26Speaker 1: up for season two. Congratulations, man, congratulations. Let's say it
- 17:30Speaker 1: get loud, man, because because I read the article. You know,
- 17:33Speaker 1: I think I've read the article the just that I
- 17:35Speaker 1: mean last week or something like that where everybody kept
- 17:38Speaker 1: asking them Joseph, was he picked up? Was it picked up?
- 17:40Speaker 1: He said? And heard yet and normally the show was
- 17:43Speaker 1: picked up around this time. Congratulations, how you feel, brother,
- 17:47Speaker 1: Man excited? So you know, we got picked up a
- 17:50Speaker 1: season two. The news just dropped yesterday, so it's fresh
- 17:55Speaker 1: for a lot more. Man. I'm so happy because they
- 17:58Speaker 1: can delve into your character, man, because I want to
- 18:00Speaker 1: see you know, because it's a lot because you know
- 18:03Speaker 1: the fact that you know that you're gonna have to
- 18:05Speaker 1: introduce your character to your son. First of all, first
- 18:08Speaker 1: you have to find out who you are, and they
- 18:09Speaker 1: have to realize that you know, you're you're gay, and
- 18:12Speaker 1: your dad. Those are a lot of dynamics that has
- 18:14Speaker 1: to be worked out. So I think that, Man, it's
- 18:16Speaker 1: gonna be fun watching you man, and in the future
- 18:19Speaker 1: episodes and also in the next season because that character
- 18:23Speaker 1: that you're playing, Anthony resonates with me because of the
- 18:27Speaker 1: fact that I am a father, and it resonates to
- 18:29Speaker 1: me because I know that I don't want to experience
- 18:33Speaker 1: your pain, but I can relate to your pain if
- 18:35Speaker 1: I was denied an opportunity because I'm one of those
- 18:37Speaker 1: passionate people that you know, I want to be a dad,
- 18:40Speaker 1: I want to be a parent, and that's what that
- 18:42Speaker 1: role is being played out on your character. Now, did
- 18:45Speaker 1: you do any research or this is something that's naturally
- 18:47Speaker 1: within you? This is the when you're giving directions by
- 18:50Speaker 1: the director or casting what what? What? What tips or
- 18:54Speaker 1: steps did they give you to play this out? Or
- 18:56Speaker 1: you say, hey man, this is how I'm gonna deal
- 18:57Speaker 1: with it. Uh, I see this character going in this direction.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Tell my audience how does that play itself out? When
- 19:03Speaker 1: you building out a character like this that's so unique, well,
- 19:07Speaker 1: you know, of course, the writers, Courtney Kemp and her
- 19:09Speaker 1: amazing writing team have developed the story in each individual
- 19:14Speaker 1: character to be you know, so so multifaceted, certain so layered.
- 19:21Speaker 1: But then as an actor, you know you're hired to
- 19:23Speaker 1: do a job. You're hired to bring your skill set
- 19:27Speaker 1: and you know some of your interpretations and perspective to
- 19:30Speaker 1: the role. So we've been been a blessing. It has
- 19:34Speaker 1: been such a blessing to be able to do that
- 19:36Speaker 1: with this particular character. You know, I feel this cat
- 19:39Speaker 1: in my bones. You know, I'm a parent myself, yes,
- 19:41Speaker 1: and you know I know the joy, so you know
- 19:43Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. I know where you're coming from.
- 19:46Speaker 1: You know, I know where you're coming from. So I
- 19:49Speaker 1: know that joy and that feeling and the things that
- 19:51Speaker 1: you try to teach your children and how you want
- 19:53Speaker 1: your children to be out here in the world, and
- 19:58Speaker 1: so you know, I drew on a lot of personal
- 20:00Speaker 1: experiences for this role, for sure, when it comes to
- 20:03Speaker 1: being a parent, when it comes to you know, JP
- 20:06Speaker 1: loves his father. It's his hero. You know, my father
- 20:09Speaker 1: was my hero and someone who I was very close to,
- 20:12Speaker 1: and he's someone who introduced me to jazz. I would
- 20:15Speaker 1: have loved to for me and my dad to open
- 20:17Speaker 1: up a jazz club because you know, he grew up
- 20:20Speaker 1: and he put that love of jazz and me and
- 20:22Speaker 1: you know, to this day, it's my favorite music. So
- 20:24Speaker 1: it's been great to connect on that level as well.
- 20:27Speaker 1: I'm letter rdy know, I'm talking to Anthony Fleming the Third.
- 20:31Speaker 1: He plays the incredible character JP Gibbs newly renewed power
- 20:38Speaker 1: for us. You know, I want to thank you man
- 20:41Speaker 1: for coming on The show Man because of the fact
- 20:42Speaker 1: that I just try to tell stories. I try to
- 20:44Speaker 1: tell stories with people who I feel like I have
- 20:46Speaker 1: an interesting story to tell. I know that you are
- 20:49Speaker 1: you working on any other projects outside of Power right there? Are?
- 20:53Speaker 1: I know COVID lift is dropping. I know you're based
- 20:55Speaker 1: out of Chicago. What does the future look like for
- 20:57Speaker 1: Anthony Fleming outside of Power? You know, I'm just keep grinding, baby,
- 21:02Speaker 1: keep hustling. You know, some auditioning for stuff I'm getting
- 21:04Speaker 1: told no, you know, because that's that's another thing storytelling.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Just so you know, the actors, the grind never stops.
- 21:11Speaker 1: You get told no way more than you get told yes.
- 21:13Speaker 1: So you know, you got to keep hustling. You got
- 21:15Speaker 1: to stay hungry. That's one thing I would always stress
- 21:18Speaker 1: and tell people who come into this industry and keep
- 21:21Speaker 1: sharpening your skills, keep honing your craft. So I'm steady
- 21:24Speaker 1: doing that. I got a couple of things projects that
- 21:26Speaker 1: I'm working on. You know, I also do voiceover work.
- 21:29Speaker 1: I can hear it. I can hear it. Yeah, Like
- 21:33Speaker 1: it's just still a twenty five percentity of and then
- 21:35Speaker 1: I be a happy camp, happy camp here, brother, No man, really,
- 21:39Speaker 1: you know because like I said, my background just a
- 21:42Speaker 1: little bit before wrap. You know, I started out as
- 21:44Speaker 1: a stand up comedian, left the career as IBM, where
- 21:47Speaker 1: I was at a math degree, so I was out
- 21:49Speaker 1: there grinding, So I know exactly. You know, you have
- 21:52Speaker 1: to put the work in. You have to have faith
- 21:55Speaker 1: in yourself. You know, you have to believe that. You
- 21:58Speaker 1: have to create relationships. That's word as well, because you're
- 22:02Speaker 1: not going to make it in this business by yourself.
- 22:04Speaker 1: You gotta be able to have people you can count on.
- 22:06Speaker 1: And like you said, you have a relationship with Joseph
- 22:08Speaker 1: even before you really became a fan of the series Power,
- 22:12Speaker 1: and I'm sure that helped you out as well. But again, man, again,
- 22:15Speaker 1: congratulational series being renewed, Anthony, and thank you for coming
- 22:18Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversations Master Clay. You're a fantastic brother. Hey,
- 22:21Speaker 1: thanks man, I appreciate it. Thank you. If you want
- 22:24Speaker 1: to hear any interviews or seeing interviews on Money Making
- 22:26Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass, please go to Money Making Conversation dot com.
- 22:30Speaker 1: I'm Rushan McDonald. I am your host. We'll be right
- 22:32Speaker 1: back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald.
- 22:38Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute
- 22:42Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rushan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rushan McDonald for
- 22:45Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your daily Minute of Inspiration.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Doing a conversation with producer and founder of American Black
- 22:51Speaker 1: Film Festival with Jeff Friday, he shared how important it
- 22:54Speaker 1: is for those who make it in Hollywood to open
- 22:56Speaker 1: doors for others, so metaphorically Hollywood club. And when we
- 23:01Speaker 1: get in the club, we gotta go back to the
- 23:03Speaker 1: door say yo, I'm not going into My boy can't
- 23:05Speaker 1: come up. And that's what people like like Abra Duvene
- 23:08Speaker 1: have done, and that's what you know Ryan done. When
- 23:10Speaker 1: you look at a movie, it might be three hundred
- 23:13Speaker 1: people who get a check. There's only only keen or
- 23:16Speaker 1: in front of the camera. What about the other two
- 23:18Speaker 1: hundred and ninety people who you don't know, who have families,
- 23:21Speaker 1: who have families too. If you're going to be at
- 23:23Speaker 1: the forefront of this fight, you gotta bring you gotta
- 23:26Speaker 1: go back to the front door, and you gotta let
- 23:27Speaker 1: your boys, you know, or go open the back door,
- 23:30Speaker 1: let them do whatever the door you go to. You
- 23:32Speaker 1: can listen to this full interview with Jeff Friday is
- 23:34Speaker 1: available on Moneymaking Conversations dot com. Now let's return to
- 23:38Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald my guests on
- 23:43Speaker 1: your Fears. Let me look background on't I say that?
- 23:45Speaker 1: The very top of the show. Financial advisor and Global
- 23:48Speaker 1: Sports and Entertainment Director with Morgan Stanley. She began working
- 23:51Speaker 1: in the financial services industry in two thousands. Then she
- 23:54Speaker 1: joined Bank of America Merrill Lynch in two thousand and six.
- 23:57Speaker 1: So if you're have any phone calls that you want
- 23:59Speaker 1: to make, this is the time to make those phone calls.
- 24:02Speaker 1: She has since transitioned to Morgan Stanley, where she is
- 24:04Speaker 1: one of the one of the feud and two percent
- 24:07Speaker 1: of Morgan Stanley's financial advised to obtain the Global Sports
- 24:10Speaker 1: and Entertainment Director of destination as of January of this year.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Please work with the Money Making Conversation Master Class sun
- 24:16Speaker 1: your Fears? How are you going to sign you? Good evening?
- 24:19Speaker 1: Good evening, Rashan, thank you for helping me, Well, well,
- 24:22Speaker 1: thank you, well, you know it's I think that with
- 24:25Speaker 1: gas prices. You know, some areas going over five dollars.
- 24:28Speaker 1: A lot of people want to know what's going on
- 24:31Speaker 1: with their money. I guess, uh, do you get? Are
- 24:33Speaker 1: you getting? Are the phone calls that you're getting now
- 24:35Speaker 1: different from the phone calls that you got doing the pandemic?
- 24:38Speaker 1: They are? And the reason being, um, the reason why
- 24:42Speaker 1: they're different. Of course, you know, we have the pandemic
- 24:46Speaker 1: and and and then we had unrest and you know
- 24:51Speaker 1: with with police, and now we have a war. Um,
- 24:56Speaker 1: and the tensions in Russia and Ukraine for a lot
- 25:00Speaker 1: of us is different, and so people are nervous. There's
- 25:05Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety, and the calls, although similar, because
- 25:10Speaker 1: there were anxieties there. Um, these anxieties are unknown for
- 25:15Speaker 1: a lot of people. So they are a little different. Yeah,
- 25:19Speaker 1: because our reason you can say that because did you
- 25:21Speaker 1: look at television's Let me just answer myself the question
- 25:25Speaker 1: to myself. For instance, when when the civil arrest was here,
- 25:28Speaker 1: when the George Floyd situation, the pandemic is here. When
- 25:31Speaker 1: I walked out my front door, I had to deal
- 25:33Speaker 1: with either wearing a mask or not going out in
- 25:35Speaker 1: the front door. I had to deal with worrying about
- 25:38Speaker 1: the police, the police where they where they stopped me
- 25:40Speaker 1: because I will stop several times. One was because my
- 25:42Speaker 1: tag was expired. I was nervous. Whereas the war, I
- 25:46Speaker 1: can just turn the TV off. I can ignore it
- 25:48Speaker 1: in the sense even though it's going on. But they
- 25:50Speaker 1: ignoring still doesn't mean it's not impacted me. Because my
- 25:54Speaker 1: gas I went to fill up yesterday and I looked
- 25:58Speaker 1: down it was like five thirteen sense because I used
- 26:01Speaker 1: premium gas in my car, and I was like stunned.
- 26:03Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is ridiculous because on TV
- 26:06Speaker 1: they only give you the lower's price gas, the regular premium,
- 26:10Speaker 1: the regular gas. So but there's gas out there in
- 26:13Speaker 1: some places five and six dollars a gallon. But in time,
- 26:17Speaker 1: that also tells people who because you deal with people
- 26:19Speaker 1: on retirement accounts, you deal with people who don't know
- 26:23Speaker 1: if they can take their money in or redirect their money.
- 26:25Speaker 1: And we're always talking about closing the black wealthcap, so
- 26:29Speaker 1: you have a lot of questions to come in you.
- 26:30Speaker 1: The first question I'm gonna ask you, what is the
- 26:34Speaker 1: wealth cap the black wealth gap? Is there any possibility
- 26:37Speaker 1: that being closed in my generation? And if so, how
- 26:41Speaker 1: can that be achieved? That's an excellent question. It's something
- 26:48Speaker 1: that you hear a lot more younger people talk about,
- 26:53Speaker 1: which which is very very encouraging to me. And really
- 26:58Speaker 1: by having the door open ones one often is the
- 27:03Speaker 1: greatest component to increase the black dollar and wealth in
- 27:08Speaker 1: the black community. Education is another way what we what
- 27:14Speaker 1: we need is more people who look like us to
- 27:17Speaker 1: understand the different components of building wealth. And and that's
- 27:21Speaker 1: where we start to really understand how you build wealth.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Because when you understand, we can work towards closing the gap,
- 27:31Speaker 1: you know, having the opportunities really to talk to youth
- 27:36Speaker 1: in an engaging way and to not only focus on finance,
- 27:41Speaker 1: but promote financial literacy so that we can shed light
- 27:46Speaker 1: on the mindset and the discipline needed to become wealthy,
- 27:50Speaker 1: because it's discipline just like the same kind of discipline
- 27:54Speaker 1: that it takes. And I know you're an early riser
- 27:57Speaker 1: to wake up early year, to wake up early, and
- 28:02Speaker 1: for those who can do that and have the discipline
- 28:05Speaker 1: to regardless of what's going on, to get their rest
- 28:09Speaker 1: so they can start early and they can have a
- 28:12Speaker 1: full day, the discipline to exercise every day. It's the
- 28:18Speaker 1: discipline to really understand and have a mindset to be
- 28:26Speaker 1: intentional about understanding what your money can do for you
- 28:30Speaker 1: and understanding what you need to do to allow your
- 28:34Speaker 1: money to work for you. You know, and when I
- 28:36Speaker 1: thank you for that information, he just told us. When
- 28:39Speaker 1: you was talking to your opening credits, I talked about
- 28:42Speaker 1: when you was at Merrill Lynch, you created the first
- 28:46Speaker 1: African American mother daughter wealth management team with your daughter.
- 28:50Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that the conversations and the approaches were
- 28:54Speaker 1: different as the people you were dealing. I want to say,
- 28:58Speaker 1: in your age group or the group that came to
- 29:00Speaker 1: you for financial advice and the group that came to
- 29:03Speaker 1: her for a financial vice, what what was the Was
- 29:06Speaker 1: there any common denominators or they were just extreme people
- 29:10Speaker 1: looking for extreme different different approaches to their financial strategies.
- 29:16Speaker 1: So the common denominator and that's what you see now,
- 29:20Speaker 1: and that's why I'm encouraged about the wealth gap closing,
- 29:25Speaker 1: is the fact that people that are my age, or
- 29:31Speaker 1: people that are looking towards retirement or putting together and
- 29:37Speaker 1: a state plan, or people that are my daughter's age,
- 29:43Speaker 1: they all want and need guidance. You know. That's that's
- 29:48Speaker 1: the common denominator. People that don't do this every day,
- 29:54Speaker 1: and is not investing people's money and not putting together
- 29:59Speaker 1: financial plan for people so that they have that guide
- 30:04Speaker 1: to help them through life and not have to worry
- 30:07Speaker 1: about it. They really don't know. And you know, so
- 30:12Speaker 1: we have physicians, and we have athletes, and we have
- 30:19Speaker 1: business owners, and they are very good at what they do,
- 30:23Speaker 1: but they don't do this every day. And if they
- 30:26Speaker 1: don't do this every day, they don't really have that
- 30:29Speaker 1: roadmap at their fingertips to help guide them through knowing
- 30:34Speaker 1: what their numbers are and knowing that based on the
- 30:37Speaker 1: seven life priorities, what the numbers look like that will
- 30:42Speaker 1: make that retirement plan successful. And so that's a common
- 30:47Speaker 1: denominator that young or middle age or older need the
- 30:53Speaker 1: knowledge and need the guidance to be able to fulfill
- 30:57Speaker 1: their goals and have an effective plan towards building wealth. Son, you,
- 31:02Speaker 1: where aren't more my knowledges involved in stock activity? And
- 31:08Speaker 1: I thought about it, of course while you are on
- 31:09Speaker 1: the break um and why are people sitting on the
- 31:12Speaker 1: sidelines as you ask? And I think it's important for
- 31:16Speaker 1: a lot of people to identify why they're nervous, so
- 31:20Speaker 1: we know there's a lot of anxiety now because of
- 31:23Speaker 1: the tension with Russia and Ukraine. But from from there,
- 31:28Speaker 1: you know people identifying why they're nervous. They need to
- 31:32Speaker 1: look at the intended use of their assets and what
- 31:37Speaker 1: they plan to invest in. And if you're clear on
- 31:41Speaker 1: your goals and you're confident on your timeline, and you
- 31:45Speaker 1: understand that there are highs and lows in investing, you
- 31:49Speaker 1: really should be fine. A lot of people are nervous
- 31:54Speaker 1: because they don't know and they're not being prepared, and
- 31:58Speaker 1: so working with the financial professional, so you understand that
- 32:03Speaker 1: the market has heaps and flows and that over the
- 32:07Speaker 1: past one hundred years, and you can physically look at
- 32:11Speaker 1: the charts and look at all of the many crisises
- 32:16Speaker 1: that's occurred over the past eighty to one hundred years
- 32:19Speaker 1: and understand that even though those crisises occurred, the market
- 32:23Speaker 1: still went up. And so really understanding I think that
- 32:27Speaker 1: will take away some of that nervousness and really being
- 32:30Speaker 1: prepared I think will help people. Now. In terms of
- 32:34Speaker 1: why minorities are not in the stock market, I really
- 32:38Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily the case anymore. I really see
- 32:42Speaker 1: a lot more minorities getting into investing but working with
- 32:48Speaker 1: the financial professional, not as many. You hear about a
- 32:52Speaker 1: lot of younger folks now they're getting involved with cryptocurrency,
- 32:57Speaker 1: or they want to start investing, or or you know,
- 33:00Speaker 1: they have a Disney stock um and things like that.
- 33:03Speaker 1: So I think it's changing. It's just that we need
- 33:06Speaker 1: to get more involved and get to our goal where
- 33:12Speaker 1: we have a predominant amount of us involved in investing.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. So as you said
- 33:19Speaker 1: the word cryptocurrency, I've had experts on on my show
- 33:22Speaker 1: talking about cryptocurrency, talking about bitcorn, talking about stocks. Does
- 33:27Speaker 1: cryptocurrency and bitcors does that fall in your wheelhouse? So UM,
- 33:34Speaker 1: many brokerage firms, including Mortgage Stanley UM really shy away
- 33:41Speaker 1: from offering cryptocurrencies to our clients. Neil Um. We were
- 33:47Speaker 1: actually the first brokerage firm on Wall Street to offer
- 33:52Speaker 1: bitcoin on our platform. But you have to be an
- 33:55Speaker 1: accredited investor to be able to buy it. So um.
- 33:59Speaker 1: For for us, you have to have a million dollars
- 34:02Speaker 1: with us, and the minimum you can put in it's
- 34:05Speaker 1: fifty thousand. And again we set the criteria very high
- 34:10Speaker 1: because the potential for loss is tremendous and so it's
- 34:15Speaker 1: the potential for gain, but that volatility. A lot of
- 34:19Speaker 1: people that have, you know, their retirement sons, we discourage
- 34:24Speaker 1: them from putting that into it. You have to have
- 34:26Speaker 1: significant disposable assets before we would encourage that. Well, okay,
- 34:32Speaker 1: and so that means that that let me just slow
- 34:35Speaker 1: it down because you know, a million dollars you probably
- 34:38Speaker 1: got a lot of people hung up on micro should
- 34:40Speaker 1: right there. I can't even listen to this guy. I
- 34:42Speaker 1: don't have a million dollars, you know, because of the
- 34:44Speaker 1: fact that you know, we're talking about, you know, investing,
- 34:47Speaker 1: and so they say a small amount of money. I
- 34:51Speaker 1: want to invest a small amount of money. Is it
- 34:53Speaker 1: worth it? And let me ask that question because you know,
- 34:56Speaker 1: as a child, you know to just put twenty dollars
- 34:58Speaker 1: in a bank, but one hundred dollars in a bank.
- 35:01Speaker 1: Where is a starting point for investing or savings and
- 35:06Speaker 1: creating a relationship what a person like you or should
- 35:09Speaker 1: we just go to an app like a robin Hood
- 35:11Speaker 1: type app type to to get started? Can they come
- 35:14Speaker 1: to you with a small amount of money to invest
- 35:18Speaker 1: and start their their road their journey to financial success?
- 35:25Speaker 1: And so I want to say that, yes, you can
- 35:30Speaker 1: start with a small amount of money to invest. The
- 35:35Speaker 1: criteria and I give this to clients across the board.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Children of my clients, we have to start with savings
- 35:46Speaker 1: right right, And for a young adult that's starting out
- 35:51Speaker 1: and they're looking to buy their own, their first car
- 35:56Speaker 1: and potentially save to get their first home. Do you
- 36:00Speaker 1: have an emergency fund? You know? I always start there.
- 36:04Speaker 1: And the criteria to establish an emergency fund. If you're single,
- 36:09Speaker 1: it's six months times your monthly expenses, your electric, your rent,
- 36:15Speaker 1: your gas, whatever your monthly expenses are six times that amount,
- 36:20Speaker 1: that should be your emergency fund. If you're married or
- 36:24Speaker 1: your couple is three times your monthly expenses. So once
- 36:28Speaker 1: you've established your emergency fund, then the moneys that you
- 36:33Speaker 1: have left over, that's what you use to invest. And
- 36:37Speaker 1: you start where you are. And if it's a hundred
- 36:39Speaker 1: dollars a month, that's where you start. And if it's
- 36:42Speaker 1: a thousand or five thousand, that's where you start. But
- 36:47Speaker 1: I definitely encourage at any level you should start. Okay, cool,
- 36:52Speaker 1: I think they're back on every but I think they've
- 36:54Speaker 1: rejoined me. The one hundred dollars they rejoined me so good.
- 36:58Speaker 1: I can see the phones are lightening up now. But
- 37:03Speaker 1: you know, you know the fun the fun part about
- 37:05Speaker 1: I got all these you know, got these people on
- 37:07Speaker 1: TV screaming about stock and I got these different shows
- 37:11Speaker 1: talking about the stock market going up going down. And
- 37:14Speaker 1: you know, what is what is it? You're a term
- 37:16Speaker 1: of hot stock? What is what is Is that a
- 37:20Speaker 1: term that's being used on television only or that term
- 37:23Speaker 1: is used within your and your framework of doing business?
- 37:27Speaker 1: The word hot stock? You know, I get that all
- 37:32Speaker 1: the time. Um. You know, I I go out and
- 37:36Speaker 1: people are um here and understand what I do, and
- 37:40Speaker 1: they're asking, you know, for a trip or to you know,
- 37:46Speaker 1: what are the hot stocks that I should invest in?
- 37:48Speaker 1: And and I mean it's not a bad question, right, um,
- 37:54Speaker 1: but you know I have to tell them that our
- 37:56Speaker 1: team primarily focuses on longer term investing, So we don't
- 38:00Speaker 1: necessarily recommend a stock or two for short term purchase,
- 38:06Speaker 1: nor will we recommend just one or two for a portfolio.
- 38:11Speaker 1: You know, it's all about asset allocation. And if you
- 38:15Speaker 1: are starting if you're starting out and you cannot diversify
- 38:19Speaker 1: across different sectors, you know, so there's eleven different sectors
- 38:24Speaker 1: you may not benefit from one or two stocks, because
- 38:28Speaker 1: if those one or two stocks go down, then you've
- 38:31Speaker 1: lost all your money, right, you know, So we recommend
- 38:35Speaker 1: instead of picking that one or two that you look
- 38:38Speaker 1: at a SMP index and you put your money in
- 38:43Speaker 1: that index fund. And so an index fund like that
- 38:46Speaker 1: tracks the SMP five hundred. All of the major companies
- 38:54Speaker 1: in the US in the SMP five hundred. So that
- 38:57Speaker 1: would be the recommendation. We'll be right back with more
- 39:00Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return
- 39:08Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know,
- 39:13Speaker 1: I've been involved personally investing ever since my early thirties
- 39:18Speaker 1: and and as I've gotten older, you know, different people
- 39:21Speaker 1: I've talked to have advised me, Okay, do you want
- 39:24Speaker 1: to be aggressive? Do you want to be a moderate
- 39:26Speaker 1: or you want to be conservative? And that's those the
- 39:28Speaker 1: sectors you're talking about. Are those the way or how
- 39:31Speaker 1: you want to spend your money based on your age? So, UM,
- 39:36Speaker 1: that's risk tolerance, oderate aggressive and people have to understand
- 39:42Speaker 1: their risk tolerance. Okay. Now, so if you're the kind
- 39:46Speaker 1: that you can go to Vegas and um, get on
- 39:51Speaker 1: the the what is that we all call you're you're
- 39:58Speaker 1: you're putting all your chips on all right, right, right
- 40:03Speaker 1: the roulette. Then then you're aggressive, You're willing to take chances,
- 40:09Speaker 1: and you know, you just want to go with it.
- 40:11Speaker 1: And so someone like that would invest in one hundred
- 40:15Speaker 1: percent equities, one hundred percent stocks if you are more conservative,
- 40:20Speaker 1: right and you're only on that penny slot machine or
- 40:24Speaker 1: that slot machine, you really conservative slot machine, right, you know,
- 40:31Speaker 1: So then we want to put more fixed income in
- 40:34Speaker 1: your portfolio, right, and then we want to put less
- 40:39Speaker 1: stocks or equities in your portfolio. But the sectors that
- 40:44Speaker 1: we're talking about are the different sectors that covers the market,
- 40:49Speaker 1: you know. So we have construction and materials, we have
- 40:54Speaker 1: UM industrials, we have healthcare, we have reached is a
- 40:59Speaker 1: sect turn now and and so that's what I'm talking
- 41:02Speaker 1: about technology. Okay, cool, well, Sanny. We have a call
- 41:06Speaker 1: in from David Buckhead. Hey, Dave, how you doing. Hey,
- 41:11Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good, Dave. We
- 41:13Speaker 1: have sun your Fears on the call off. She's from
- 41:15Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley is one of the financial advisors on the show.
- 41:18Speaker 1: You have a question for her. Yeah, thanks for putting
- 41:21Speaker 1: me through. Um. You know, when I turned my radio down,
- 41:24Speaker 1: I caught the piece of information that Sonny was passing
- 41:27Speaker 1: along about Penny investors, and I was like, yeah, you know,
- 41:30Speaker 1: I got all excited. But you know, my question was
- 41:35Speaker 1: really really geared towards say, a person whose middle age
- 41:40Speaker 1: or uh you know that has some investments in the
- 41:44Speaker 1: stock market, you know, with particular and particular stock. But
- 41:48Speaker 1: then more so I thought about, you know, um, the
- 41:52Speaker 1: beginning of the conversation where you both were talking about
- 41:55Speaker 1: how that information is funneled down and I hate to
- 41:58Speaker 1: use that word loosely, but it's true in my case,
- 42:00Speaker 1: funnel down about financial knowledge, training, understanding how money works. Um,
- 42:06Speaker 1: you know, those resources unfortunately weren't really available to me,
- 42:11Speaker 1: you know. And um so so having said all that, um,
- 42:17Speaker 1: you know, in terms of why black people, uh are
- 42:21Speaker 1: are I guess low end users of these services, I
- 42:25Speaker 1: think are because in my case, like I would probably
- 42:29Speaker 1: want to see an investment come uh quicker than what
- 42:34Speaker 1: I'm I think what I'm hearing is more long term.
- 42:36Speaker 1: Would you say that that's true? Like stocks, they're more
- 42:38Speaker 1: long term investments when you're dealing with somebody like, so
- 42:41Speaker 1: on your fears, right, what you're what you're teaching down
- 42:45Speaker 1: and it's not just and thank you for that, um
- 42:49Speaker 1: and thank you um, you know for even pointing out
- 42:53Speaker 1: that you're you're in the market, um and and and
- 42:57Speaker 1: that the the information gets funnel down, you know, And
- 43:01Speaker 1: I want to start there, you know. So for a
- 43:03Speaker 1: lot of us, or a lot of people that say,
- 43:06Speaker 1: I don't know anything about investing, I don't know anything
- 43:10Speaker 1: about the stock market. And I have to use myself
- 43:13Speaker 1: for as an example. My husband gets on me all
- 43:15Speaker 1: the time. He said, well, if you don't understand, why
- 43:18Speaker 1: don't you just google it up and and and look
- 43:20Speaker 1: it up. The information is out there now, right, and
- 43:24Speaker 1: so all of us we can google it, we can
- 43:27Speaker 1: look it up online, and so it's much more available.
- 43:32Speaker 1: And so that's the thing I want to encourage people.
- 43:35Speaker 1: You start googling, you start looking up information, you start
- 43:39Speaker 1: searching for financial seminars, because there's a lot of free
- 43:43Speaker 1: education out there on investing and on the market. And
- 43:47Speaker 1: so that's what people need. To start looking for the
- 43:50Speaker 1: information and trying to get the knowledge. That's where it starts.
- 43:54Speaker 1: Dave said something that I wouldn't say struggle nerve with me,
- 43:57Speaker 1: but it did you know about giving somebody your money
- 44:01Speaker 1: and then trying to get it back with the showing
- 44:05Speaker 1: rapid um or a rapid increasing their money. Because that's
- 44:10Speaker 1: that's always the sentiment that you feel when you watch
- 44:13Speaker 1: the stock market, that people will just putting money and
- 44:16Speaker 1: they get money back and they are happy and they celebrate.
- 44:19Speaker 1: That's the false sense of how stock the stock market
- 44:22Speaker 1: actually works. Correct, it really is. Um? What um? And
- 44:28Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that back up because that's
- 44:32Speaker 1: that's a very important point that that day brought up
- 44:35Speaker 1: and question that he asked. So in terms of returning
- 44:39Speaker 1: on your investment. Again, UM, once you're educated and you're comfortable,
- 44:44Speaker 1: and you have your savings and you're willing to get
- 44:47Speaker 1: into the market, you have to understand that, Um, you
- 44:51Speaker 1: can't time the market right. So if you invested, say
- 44:57Speaker 1: October or than November of last year, we all heard
- 45:03Speaker 1: that the markets were at all time highs, right, and
- 45:07Speaker 1: people are thinking all a lot of people are making
- 45:10Speaker 1: money in the market, this is the time to get in, right,
- 45:13Speaker 1: So you get in then the market are at all
- 45:16Speaker 1: time highs. And so when it's at all time highs.
- 45:20Speaker 1: There's only one place for it to go, and it's
- 45:22Speaker 1: going to go down, right, And so we were saying
- 45:26Speaker 1: at the end of last year, we are overdue for
- 45:29Speaker 1: a correction in the market. We're overdue for at least
- 45:33Speaker 1: ten to fifteen percent correction in the market. We knew that.
- 45:36Speaker 1: And so when you try to time the market, you
- 45:39Speaker 1: put your money in and you think that by yeah,
- 45:43Speaker 1: by March or you know, February next year, I'm going
- 45:46Speaker 1: to be rich because the market is at all time highs.
- 45:49Speaker 1: And you look at the market now that that was
- 45:52Speaker 1: down eight hundred points yesterday, and if people are looking
- 45:55Speaker 1: at their four one case or their retirements, it's down significant.
- 46:00Speaker 1: So this is the time and this is where you
- 46:03Speaker 1: know it's so you always um and this is something
- 46:06Speaker 1: that we learned. You go. It's a contrarian theory. They said,
- 46:10Speaker 1: you always go against public sentiments because when the market
- 46:16Speaker 1: is like this and it's down so significantly and there's
- 46:20Speaker 1: all this volatility, people are scared and they don't want
- 46:23Speaker 1: to get in because they say, oh, I'm gonna lose
- 46:25Speaker 1: all my money. This is the time to get in.
- 46:29Speaker 1: It is not the time to get in when it's
- 46:31Speaker 1: at all time highs because it's already gone up. So
- 46:36Speaker 1: that's the thing, and it can happen overnight. You have
- 46:40Speaker 1: to be willing to leave it in there and wait
- 46:44Speaker 1: till next year. The time something I want to get
- 46:46Speaker 1: a call in right quick, I know it. Then the show.
- 46:48Speaker 1: But Cynthia, as you called in cent there from Atlanta,
- 46:51Speaker 1: how are you doing, cynthing, you have a question for
- 46:52Speaker 1: sign your fears? Yes, I do. I want to just
- 46:57Speaker 1: find out. So I'm a middle age person heading close
- 47:01Speaker 1: to sixty. My children are grown and gone now, and
- 47:05Speaker 1: I'm wondering is it too late to start? If not,
- 47:09Speaker 1: where do I start? It is definitely definitely not too late.
- 47:17Speaker 1: And if you're saying you're close to sixty one, do
- 47:22Speaker 1: you have a financial plan? And two, I mean you're
- 47:25Speaker 1: close to sixty and we anticipate that you're gonna live
- 47:29Speaker 1: till ninety ninety five. That's thirty years of investing and
- 47:33Speaker 1: being in the market. And if we put Moneys in
- 47:38Speaker 1: the market now, regardless of how much it is, I
- 47:41Speaker 1: can show you a model out for you what that
- 47:44Speaker 1: would do for you in thirty years. It's never too late.
- 47:50Speaker 1: And then where you start, Cynthia, I don't think Cynthia
- 47:53Speaker 1: was ready for that. I think really synthey didn't know
- 47:58Speaker 1: you're gonna live at ninety five. She say, you shocked
- 48:01Speaker 1: her right there, said this in ninety five. She knows
- 48:04Speaker 1: something I don't know. Ninety fi. I gotta start, I
- 48:06Speaker 1: gotta start investing. I gotta get with my fault one kids, right,
- 48:11Speaker 1: you know. Rather she's ready to retire, she's ready to
- 48:15Speaker 1: go something, but she wasn't ready to hear she's gonna
- 48:17Speaker 1: live to ninety five. I'm gonna let you know right
- 48:19Speaker 1: right now. Inside that shocked that. She got real quiet.
- 48:22Speaker 1: She said, ninety five. Man, I'm invested in the stock
- 48:26Speaker 1: market at ninty five. But that But that's what I
- 48:30Speaker 1: try to tell on this show because people they set
- 48:33Speaker 1: age limited age restrictions on what they can do and
- 48:36Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do. Because at sixty, you're not retiring,
- 48:40Speaker 1: you're just living. You continue to keep dreaming, keep investing
- 48:44Speaker 1: in vacations, keep investing in yourself. More importantly, because what
- 48:49Speaker 1: happens is when you stop dreaming, when you stop investing yourself,
- 48:53Speaker 1: then guess what it affects you physically? Mentally, you have
- 48:57Speaker 1: no motivation. So when you get the ninety five, you
- 49:00Speaker 1: look ninety five, you walk ninety five, you have ninety
- 49:02Speaker 1: five year old money, which usually if you didn't invest,
- 49:05Speaker 1: you have nothing. And so that means she's telling anybody
- 49:08Speaker 1: who's listening, do not think there's an age limit. If
- 49:11Speaker 1: you seventy you can still invest. If you eighty, you
- 49:15Speaker 1: can still invest. But it's the different approach to the investment,
- 49:20Speaker 1: the different approach to what you're trying to get out
- 49:22Speaker 1: of it. What is your financial player, what's your angle?
- 49:24Speaker 1: So Cynthia, she's telling you, yes, you can continue, give
- 49:34Speaker 1: me a call so we could talk about what you
- 49:36Speaker 1: can do. Yes, sounds great. There you go. Sit there,
- 49:40Speaker 1: we revived Cynthia. See she probably gonna go shopping now.
- 49:44Speaker 1: She said, ninety five, I gotta buy some new clouds.
- 49:50Speaker 1: I know we have like a couple of minutes left.
- 49:52Speaker 1: I want to squeeze in. One question. Dividends, stocks that
- 49:56Speaker 1: have dividends tied to it, is that advantageous. Absolutely. You
- 50:02Speaker 1: find these days that you get more income from dividends
- 50:07Speaker 1: than you do from bonds. From the yield and bonds.
- 50:10Speaker 1: So traditionally a lot of people invested in bonds are
- 50:14Speaker 1: fixed income because they would get income. That's why it's
- 50:17Speaker 1: called fixed income. They would get a set amount of
- 50:21Speaker 1: income from bonds and and the world's changed. Where you
- 50:26Speaker 1: get income these days is from stocks, dividend paying stocks.
- 50:31Speaker 1: And you can earn more income annually from dividend paying
- 50:36Speaker 1: stocks these days from them fixed income and bonds. Well,
- 50:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Stunia, you are are amazing. I
- 50:44Speaker 1: hope you have find time to come back on Money
- 50:46Speaker 1: Making Conversations, Masterclass. I know for a fact you change
- 50:49Speaker 1: Cynthia's life. Okay, she's in a little ninny five and Dave,
- 50:53Speaker 1: now he's gonna get off the penny slot machine and
- 50:55Speaker 1: realize that the money's not going to come back tomorrow.
- 50:58Speaker 1: It's gonna come back over May a six month period.
- 51:01Speaker 1: But more important, you told everybody when the stock is
- 51:04Speaker 1: on fire, wait wait, because it's gonna calm down. And
- 51:09Speaker 1: when it calms down, slide down. Catch it on the
- 51:12Speaker 1: slide down, don't catch it on the go up, because
- 51:15Speaker 1: the go up is when you want your money been
- 51:18Speaker 1: put in at the slide down. And so again I
- 51:21Speaker 1: want to thank you for taking the time of coming
- 51:22Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversations, Masterclass. And again you were fantastic
- 51:26Speaker 1: and now next time bring your daughter, bring your daughter
- 51:28Speaker 1: on come in studio. I will, okay, absolutely, it was
- 51:31Speaker 1: my absolute pleasure. Rashan, thank you so much for having
- 51:35Speaker 1: me on. I appreciate you've been listening to Money Making
- 51:38Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember to lead with
- 51:43Speaker 1: your gifts. Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a presentation of
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- 51:58Speaker 1: I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation, your masterclassroom, your
- 52:01Speaker 1: daily minute of Inspiration. I sat down with CEO and
- 52:04Speaker 1: founder of Curls Television star business mentor and Arthur Mahisha Dillinger.
- 52:09Speaker 1: She shared the wisdom of keeping your job as you
- 52:11Speaker 1: build your business. That is correct. I had to I
- 52:14Speaker 1: always always always mentor and subject. When I mentor, I
- 52:18Speaker 1: suggest that you keep your day job until your site
- 52:20Speaker 1: hustle becomes your main hustol and you can no longer
- 52:23Speaker 1: do both. Right, So, because you have to keep money in,
- 52:26Speaker 1: people want to just quit their jobs and go in
- 52:29Speaker 1: all feed for it. I feel like that's that's great,
- 52:32Speaker 1: but it's not practical, and soul I always suggest doing
- 52:37Speaker 1: both until you can't do both anymore and you have
- 52:39Speaker 1: a long history of success in the business that shows
- 52:43Speaker 1: you can actually maintain or list off of that. You
- 52:45Speaker 1: can listen to this full interview with Mahisha Dillinger. It's
- 52:48Speaker 1: available on Moneymaking Conversations dot com.