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Interview of the Week - Lamman Rucker- co-starred in OWN’s “Greenleaf” and starring in OWN’s “Cooking Up Christmas.” · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: your planning and committed effort. My next guess is Lamon
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  Speaker 1: Rucker old friend. He's an actor, educated activist, an entrepreneur
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  Speaker 1: whose career platform has used and has been used to influence, educate,
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  Speaker 1: and ignite communities through artistic and academic innovation. Lamon is
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  Speaker 1: starting in a new Christmas movie on their Own network
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  Speaker 1: entitled Cooking Up Christmas. He plays a professional baseball player,
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  Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson, who was a single dad of three and
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  Speaker 1: even a living chef to get him through the holidays
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  Speaker 1: with the kids. The chef role is played by Megan Holder.
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  Speaker 1: She starts as an Atlanta based chef at a fine
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  Speaker 1: dining restaurant who gets fired just weeks before Christmas, and
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  Speaker 1: reluctantly the takes this job off her. Cooking Up Christmas
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  Speaker 1: premieres Tuesday, December fifteen and nine pm Eastern on Own.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to my moneymaking Conversation show, My man, Lamar Rocker. Man,
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  Speaker 1: what's good? Thanks for having me man? Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we we we we we have said with agreedlea.
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  Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot for the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Has been very very good to the Rocker Halsehold has
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  Speaker 1: been yeah, yeah, yeah, and I would I would love
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  Speaker 1: to say, and vice versa. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I try to try to be an asset everywhere I go.
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  Speaker 1: So absolutely blessed and thankful, grateful to the Own lions Gate,
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  Speaker 1: Harpo family for um UM for believing in me and
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  Speaker 1: seeing the value that I can bring to UH, to
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  Speaker 1: the work that they're creating. And I'm incredibly excited. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is literally just the tippity Iceberg. I would
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  Speaker 1: love to continue to do some some wonderful things in that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in that family of of of allies, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so shout out to Discovery UM, you know as well. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you know everybody involved, So don't be surprised, man, I'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully be on some that geo stuff and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. I'm like, you know, some cooking shows. You
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  Speaker 1: might be building houses and gardening and who knows what,
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  Speaker 1: like whatever, whatever. Don't don't get me excited that lament
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  Speaker 1: because you know, relationships financial, you know, planning and travel
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  Speaker 1: and like let's let's do it. Let's well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what we kind of say it off area
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  Speaker 1: because our relationship goes way back, man. You know any
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  Speaker 1: time I we've been on panels together for the Black
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  Speaker 1: Back Black UH Movie Festival here in Atlanta, when I'd
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  Speaker 1: asked you to come down to Disney for the Disney Dreamers.
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  Speaker 1: You've always been a person who had value in conversation,
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  Speaker 1: value and effort. You know, it was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people they say they do you do what you say?
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  Speaker 1: Why is that important to you and your brand and
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  Speaker 1: why it's important to educate young people moving forward? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is is where is
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  Speaker 1: the last part of that question is it's the value.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's your value and your understanding of your responsibility
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  Speaker 1: to serve, you know, serve young people, serve peers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you and I serve one another. We love
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  Speaker 1: and support and encourage and empowering up lift each other. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know that the branding is completely secondary. I believe
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  Speaker 1: if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, if
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  Speaker 1: you're being who you're supposed to be, if you're walking
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  Speaker 1: and living and your love and your life on a
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  Speaker 1: regular basis, your brand will be shaped around you, not
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  Speaker 1: you having to try to be something you're not just
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  Speaker 1: because it's gonna sell or look good or profit you
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  Speaker 1: in some way. So I do my best to work
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  Speaker 1: from the inside out, not the outside in. And that's
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  Speaker 1: been my walk to just be authentic to who I am,
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  Speaker 1: to use my voice, um, you know, to speak for truth,
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  Speaker 1: to speak to equality to speak to education and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, empowerment and equality for all people. So in
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  Speaker 1: all the various ways that I try to do that, Um,
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  Speaker 1: that's really what's important to me. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: important for everybody to find and identify what their walk
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  Speaker 1: is and how their voices and how they fight for
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  Speaker 1: faith and how they fight for fulfillment and uh, and
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  Speaker 1: how they fight for freedom well as awesome when when
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  Speaker 1: I look at our relationship and look at your you know,
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  Speaker 1: your producer you know, and uh, actors. Sometimes a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people look at an actor said, that's all they
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  Speaker 1: do is act. But you've been an entrepreneur in my life.
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  Speaker 1: You've been an activist in my life. Now this movie here,
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  Speaker 1: we know pandemic has been raging this year and you
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  Speaker 1: just came off the very successful series green Leaf. How
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  Speaker 1: is that? You know, we always want to be involved
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  Speaker 1: with projects that are special to me. That felt like
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  Speaker 1: a very special series. And you know you've done a
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  Speaker 1: lot of significant work. Don't don't get me wrong, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I know your resume. But how whether that onether
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  Speaker 1: that that relationship with that series landing your career? Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: it's what's what you just gave me chills because uh,
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  Speaker 1: and I just became aware of the chill right as
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  Speaker 1: I was about to open my mouth. But uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: real deep how you know what life uh not just
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  Speaker 1: does for you, but what it does in you. And
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  Speaker 1: and I found a very very poetic timing, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: with the work that has uh come my way and
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  Speaker 1: the work that I've chosen to do. This isn't just
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  Speaker 1: somebody plucking you and saying I like you, I want
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  Speaker 1: you and then you just say you know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: relationship and it's an agreement to say, Okay, you want
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  Speaker 1: me to be there, and you think I'm your guy,
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  Speaker 1: let me make sure i'm your guy because if I
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  Speaker 1: say yes, I've got work to do. I've got a
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  Speaker 1: duty to you, I've got an obligation to you. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to have fun with you. I want us
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  Speaker 1: to do something profound and I want to be able
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  Speaker 1: to authentically bring myself, bring my gift, bring my voice
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  Speaker 1: to you to elevate what we're gonna do together. And
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  Speaker 1: that um the timing of green leaf, uh and even
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  Speaker 1: my own personal wife of faith, of fatherhood, of husbandhood,
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  Speaker 1: of you know, brother hood, UM whatever a service UM
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  Speaker 1: really had a really interesting actually contrast in many ways,
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  Speaker 1: but also an interesting parallel to Jacob's you know, um life,
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  Speaker 1: to Jacob's walk, to his process of self discovery, um
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  Speaker 1: you know, him trying to figure out who he is
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  Speaker 1: and what he is and how to you know, create
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  Speaker 1: his own identity aside from you know, all these other
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  Speaker 1: people in this family. Family. But it ain't no small
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it's and as regular as we are,
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  Speaker 1: which is what we all made a commitment to do,
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  Speaker 1: is like no, no, no no, We're gonna show that this
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  Speaker 1: this family is real regularly are normal, regular folks. I
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  Speaker 1: got regular, real stuff like any other family. Let's focus
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  Speaker 1: on that. You know, if we focused on that, all
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  Speaker 1: the other fabulousness about us, you know, we'll just be
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  Speaker 1: icing on the cake. But let's be the cake, not
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  Speaker 1: the icing, you know what I'm saying, Not just trying
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  Speaker 1: to be the little fancy, cute sweet cherry on top.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be you know, let's give this some real density
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  Speaker 1: and structure and flavor and you know, really let it.
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  Speaker 1: Let this be a rich moist gate that you want
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  Speaker 1: more and more and more of. So that it was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing that, and it was a
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  Speaker 1: great character exploration. Wonderful to play somebody who I believe
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  Speaker 1: was a really magnificent example of the beauty and brilliance
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  Speaker 1: of black family and even of a black man, to
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  Speaker 1: show that even in his flaws, and however he might
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  Speaker 1: screw up the time of time and make poor decisions,
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  Speaker 1: at his core, Um, you saw how you know, you
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  Speaker 1: you saw how incredibly wonderful he was, and you were
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  Speaker 1: praying for him and um, hoping that he would succeed,
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  Speaker 1: and and knowing that he wanted to do better, and
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  Speaker 1: you wanted what he wanted for him. Actually you wanted
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  Speaker 1: more than he may have even wanted for himself. And
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  Speaker 1: that's so very true. That's true, very true. And then
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  Speaker 1: watch him go through it was the fun of it.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the time we've got we keep these you know,
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  Speaker 1: barricades up, or we put these facades up so you
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  Speaker 1: can't really see the truth. And I tried at least
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  Speaker 1: let us do this and at some point remove that
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  Speaker 1: veil altogether and really let people kind of see the heart.
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  Speaker 1: Um uh, you know, in the trials and tribulations. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I love that character for you, Lamar, That's why
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  Speaker 1: I love that character for you, because, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm mad. I get mad. I got mad at you. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, right, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You walk into Harvard, you know, you know, apartment with
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  Speaker 1: this chick. Come on, come on, loan, I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: the screen. I'm talking to Saxa exactly. Stop. Stop. That's
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  Speaker 1: what too. Man. There's so many men, you know. It's
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  Speaker 1: been great that on occasies like you know, they like
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  Speaker 1: of course the dominant fan base of women around the
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  Speaker 1: world is great, you know, but to have you know,
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  Speaker 1: a very equitable admiration and respect and appreciation of the
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  Speaker 1: men you know around the world, not just brothers and
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  Speaker 1: black men especially, you know, but even to have them
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  Speaker 1: roll up and be like, hey, hey bro, I appreciate you. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yelling at you from across the street. I
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  Speaker 1: see you dog, keep doing what you think you know,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever, just all flow down. Stop man, full up.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've got countless warning from don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Wait you know, things like that. Absolutely, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. And you need to handle that little girl. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, hey, girls, ain't no joke.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough in so many ways that Jacob uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so many other men identified with him, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was aporting me a lot of pride to tell
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  Speaker 1: the truth in that way and for that the resonation.
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  Speaker 1: And then I thought port lamar on their character because
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  Speaker 1: you know, a daughter and the okay and so and
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  Speaker 1: that that that role that you played, that male figure,
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  Speaker 1: and we all know how that plays out in the
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  Speaker 1: black community. You know, what what is the young lady
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  Speaker 1: think of our dad? What is the right the young
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  Speaker 1: man think of the role of how his dad treated women?
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  Speaker 1: And all those things. You know, it's a really great stories.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I hope people go and created and executed
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  Speaker 1: scial out to you know, uh to to Craig Right
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  Speaker 1: and and Oprah and Clement Virgo as well in particular
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  Speaker 1: Chris turn of Towns and you know all the other
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  Speaker 1: people that we've got, um again writing stories are incredible
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  Speaker 1: writing team, all of our other directors and of course
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  Speaker 1: you know my acting, you know, my other peers on screen.
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  Speaker 1: But there's so many countless people that were involved in
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  Speaker 1: telling that story. Um. But yeah, just the creation of it,
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  Speaker 1: support behind it and uh, cinematograph. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful piece of piece of art. You know,
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  Speaker 1: hope it lives on. I will it will. I think
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  Speaker 1: You know it's family. You got some more kids now show.
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  Speaker 1: But you just buy yourself this time. You handsome athletes
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  Speaker 1: got h that's right. You got all the things that's
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  Speaker 1: that's supposed to make you whole, right, yes, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: So tell us how this movie came on your came
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  Speaker 1: on your desk, and how you are the opportunity presented
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  Speaker 1: itself to you? And did you shoot it during COVID
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  Speaker 1: or before COVID indeed during COVID. So that was that
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  Speaker 1: was crazy too. I mean, getting tested, temperature checks every
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  Speaker 1: day and you know, the whole crew and uh, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: got masks and shields and you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And you gotta remember in between takes and after in
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  Speaker 1: between setups like oh we put my mask back on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, really wash my hands. I'll let me do this.
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  Speaker 1: And it's you know, and social distancing and yeah, it was,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was an undertaking, you know, um and
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  Speaker 1: I uh, it was, it was something. And I did
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  Speaker 1: three projects actually during um, you know, during during COVID,
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  Speaker 1: UM and uh they were they were they were different
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  Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was quite a different march. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, but this coming about, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know again, shout out again to the entire uh
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  Speaker 1: Oprah family, you know, shout out to the whole type
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  Speaker 1: core family, you know, living hope. Um, you know, everybody
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  Speaker 1: in the process. And you know, uh on my team
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  Speaker 1: you know as well, and it's send it up being
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  Speaker 1: a great a great match, great marriage. My man Roger
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  Speaker 1: Bob also directed. Yeah, that's also that's also that was
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  Speaker 1: icing on the cake. Get him on the show man
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  Speaker 1: actually speaking of green Lea, Um, Um, what's uh county's
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  Speaker 1: last name? County Psychs Deacon Psychs, you know, played by
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  Speaker 1: Jenn Harper Lays. Jen plays my mother in this film.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, you know, and uh and and my man
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  Speaker 1: a lot who also plays one of our deacons. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he plays Uncle Buck in the film Your Faces, you know,
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  Speaker 1: um as well that we're fun. And this COVID experience,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this experience so you can't see people smile,
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  Speaker 1: you can't. You know that you gotta shield. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's really so let's let's walk us through that because
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  Speaker 1: you know, when COVID first came out, I tell everybody
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  Speaker 1: I was parandoring because I didn't know, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know how to go to the grocery's. Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. When I came out of the grocery store,
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  Speaker 1: do I put parrel on my hands? Do I throw
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  Speaker 1: away the rubber gloves? And now you come to a
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  Speaker 1: set where you have all these protocols of safety, but
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  Speaker 1: then you also remember you gotta go back home. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta go back home, and and yes, and so how
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  Speaker 1: did you walk through the this? Because I have to
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: put the word courage in front of your name, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: because this is a courageous action. You know, it's for
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  Speaker 1: your craft. It's also to put food on the table.
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  Speaker 1: How it's a courageous action about you. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: mentally where you were at physically you know you could
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  Speaker 1: do it. Put the mental part the challenge, and then
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  Speaker 1: with the amount of time that we had to shoot.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, everything now is being so condensed, wanting
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  Speaker 1: because you are also trying to not only minimize costs,
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  Speaker 1: but minimize the expose your risks and all that. So
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  Speaker 1: you're literally working virtually every day for a month, maybe
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  Speaker 1: with one day off every six you know, seven days
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  Speaker 1: or something like that you know what I'm saying, Um,
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  Speaker 1: the hours are crazy, so you've got to take care
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  Speaker 1: of your body and be careful about being fatigued and
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  Speaker 1: make sure you're getting a proper rest and recovery and nutrition,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just so you can do the job let alone.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to be careful not to make yourself vulnerable
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  Speaker 1: to getting you know, yeah, to getting sick because even
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  Speaker 1: if you were to contract anything, and again it's getting chilly,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the season is changing, even screwed up the environment so
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: much even the animals are confused, you know what I'm saying. So, um,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you've got a lot of things you've got to be
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: aware of and not trying not to say, be aware
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: of instead aware of and so as courageous a walk
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it is if you're if you're comfortable, if you create confidence,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: um in yourself and how you are going about things,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: doing the best you can and being disciplined and consistent,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: also setting that example for others, and then yeah, holding
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: other people as well as um, those that are responsible
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: for creating the environment to keep you safety, keep you safe,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: and to focus on that safety and having these protocols
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: in place, you start to be able to just kind
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of relax and not think and worry so much about it.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: You know, you have COVID compliance officers on set UM.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: You know, again, we get tested on a regular basis
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: as well. And there was one person that I recall
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that actually UM didn't necessarily test positive, but they thankfully
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: openly reported that. I think they either lived with somebody
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that just worked with somebody who had a positive test
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: contract and then they isolated that person, I believe, or
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: asked them not to come to work until they did
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a b C d E and then you know what
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I mean. So I think that people are doing the
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  Speaker 1: best they can because again, they also don't want to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: get shut down, right. That's why I was really great
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that that person appreciate our unions and I appreciate the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: entities that are there to hold people accountable, you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: because that doesn't allow them to be irresponsible, or to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: be laxed, or to be negent, you know, not to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: mention just personally, regardless of what rules there are, how
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you choose to get down, you know, and how you flow,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you know, should be at a consistent standard, no matter
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: what are the rules somebody else is making, you know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I was saying the other day matter that we're talking
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: about cops and law enforcement on an earlier interview, for example,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I wasn't. I wasn't afraid of the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: cops when I was like, when I was younger, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: would worry about the law of the house, for the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: law of family, you know, so regardless of what other
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: laws and rules and protocols there are around you, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in these systems, that really matters is how you govern yourself,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you know. Um, you know, independent of that cool cooking
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: of Christmas, this is about food. This is about Christmas time. Now,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: let's let's let's go and have some fun here. Okay. No,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I know because because she's a she's a chef. And
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: then it's the story about because you know, the thing
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: about black families, food is like especially during the holiday season,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you know, all we think about it. I'm sure every
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: family thinks about those plates, talk about the Every culture
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: is a centerpiece. Food and family is the centerpiece of
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: any you know, so and so. To me, to me,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: this is the worst thing that could come your way.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You know, you in COVID doing a TV show, a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: movie's movie that's gonna be airing on own on December
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: fifteen and food is the center and it's romance. So
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: again again it's romantic and COVID food, you and COVID.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like, this is a beautiful movie concept, but
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: all these uh, the safety protocols are sitting that you
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: can't really be romantic, that you really can't talk about
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that man kind. We were kind of like, well, you know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like I always have these conversations with my leading ladies. Anyway,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, so how can I touch your
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: ultimate one with one another or into each other or
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: married for years or whatever. All right, let's talk about
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: our you know, boundaries. And so now it's almost almost
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: like assumed, well almost like well, all right, well obviously
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be touching each other again, gonna be
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: kissed with each other. So how we're gonna do this
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: without making it weird or making it, you know, not
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: look fluid and sincere and warm and romantic. So again
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you start to figure out how to do that with
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: these adjustments. But yeah, it was tough. You see all
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: this food and you want to be like, yeah, it
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: passed me to such a such and you know, pass
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: this instead. All the foods covered we got masks on.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: You can't touch each other's utensils. And I mean it's
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: like the whole point of this timing year typically is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: this roximity. It's this, It's this intimacy, it's just sharing.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It's this, you know what I mean. It's yeah, it's
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the fact that I ain't seeing you all year or
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: maybe in years. So now we're gonna be all over
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: each other's family, on top of each other, kids on
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: your last plane. That's what. That's the right the kids,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you know, because you know, you know you're you're an athlete,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: and you know your dad's home and run up to you.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That can't happen. You know, you're sitting on the sofa,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you know, jump on you know that can't happen. So
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: it really you really got now you really got to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: think about the acting steps, the acting techniques and thought
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and things. Is taking it beyond normalcy to COVID and eighteen. Yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it's tricky, but but again, everybody, please have the discipline
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to do things differently than you know this year. Trust me,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: it's okay. The sooner we have that discipline that than
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this year and a probably even next year, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: but I'd rather sacrifice the comforts that we're accustomed to
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: for however, so many prior decades or centuries or generations.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I'd rather sacrifice these two years in order to get
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the best of some of those traditions back. But if
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: we don't have the discipline, it won't just take one
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: or two years, it will take five to twenty will
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: never get ourselves back on track. Some things we probably
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: should do a little differently, you know. So this is
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: probably gonna teach us some new lessons and maybe some
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: new traditions and that are also be discovered. But yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: we want to get back to the stuff that's that's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: really warm and really then you know, about being loving
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: human beings because you brought this earlier about the home life.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: You know a lot of things that we got away
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: from what is higgs and washing your hands and all
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: those things, because you know, they've always said doing the flu,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: if you just wash your hands, that would cut down
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: or you're getting the flu. That's always been stated, okay,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And so wearing a mask is part of the bard
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is just an upgrade to washing your hands all the time.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: But so so we're not asking people to do anything
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: outside of normalcy other than other than you can't hug everybody.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, and you can't hug everybody.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Be more mindful of that. And so when you come up,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: when you gotta show the movie coming out like cooking
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: up Christmas, like I said again, premiers uh Decenter fifteen
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: owned stars my man Lamar Rutger who has been in everything,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and uh and then from an activist, well if you
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: had to say anything, and and just wrapping up because
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I can never just talk to you about your projects
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: because you are like you was honored this year by
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: uh Cafe Moke Radio. I saw that when you were
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: honored so and I was really I was proud. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: watched that and you know he's on the big screen
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and lending love was talking to you and everything, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: those are the moments man, that UH makes me feel
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: good about you, man, makes me feel good about the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: relationship I have with you. We've raded over the year.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Tell us about being honored by Cafe Moke Radio. Well,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I mean that then a lot, man. I mean, that's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that's part of what I was saying earlier. Man. Um,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you know how it is as as a
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: black man, and there's I mean, aside from again obviously
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: shining on each other and knowing how wonderful we are
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: as black men. Um. Having the love and support, um
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and encouragement of your sisters and of your you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a black the black woman in general is incredibly powerful.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So my respect for the ladies over there and what
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: they've been doing over the years, Um, the lives that
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they're living, the legacies that they're building, and the fact
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that they also now created this vehicle to support and
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: acknowledge and uplift other people as well. It's incredibly powerful things.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: So I was wonderfully honored um always uh, you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: entertained by by the gifts and personalities of a girl
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Lonnie and uh you know the rest of the crew
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: over there. Um. So you know, when we do this,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: even when you and I, this is always this is
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: part of this is part of the love. But this
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: is also part of the accountability. You know. We know
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that when we're out here walking our walk, that would
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: representing each other, you know, and every opportunity we get,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: whether it's this direct or not, you know, it's always
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: about like, hey, how can I you know, make sure
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I'm showing love, supporting and shining like on what this
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: person is doing because if they're doing something wonderful, then
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and they're also a reflection of me and a reflection
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of so many of the other people who are out
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: there doing something wonderful. So let's let's tell the story.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Let's show that, um, this great stuff has happening. You know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Look look, you know, look around. You know, so even
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: my organization, the Black Gents, like that's what we're about.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: And it's like, yo, like, look at the look at
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald, Look at the Rashan McDonald's of the world.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Look at the other men out here doing what we
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: know black men do and what we know black men
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: do on the regular. Hey, what are our sisters doing?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: What are our mothers and daughter is and you know
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and lovers and grandmothers and whatever, what are they doing? Okay,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: let's shine on our women. Let's uphold and uh and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: love and you know, support. Like whatever our women and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: sisters and children are doing, how can we do that?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Like that's like that's an incredible way to uh to
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: live and breathe. And anybody that's part of that type
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of love proposition, anybody that's out here, um, fighting for
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: what's right, even when nobody's looking like. Those are the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: stories I'm always open to telling. And those are the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: people that I love to lock arms with. You know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So you're speaking a lock of in this march with you,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: bro if I've always you know, as as a famous
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: um work where you locking arms like this, you know
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: he's reaching down like that. I've always envisioned that being
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the role you playing, like because like like I said that,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: he's more than an actor. He's an activist. He's a
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he's a community uplifter. I'm gonna make up of where
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he's in the community uplift there. That's what he does.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: All the times I've asked him, all the times I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: didn't ask him, he's called. But his brother has been
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to Dollars with me, to Steve Harvard camps. He's been
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to Orlando with me, to the Disney Dreamers. These are
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: these kids, Okay. He set aside the time I've been
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: sitting on board much with him talking about how to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: break into the film industry in Atlanta. So I got
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a track record with him and showing what he's done
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: in the black gents and him being an entrepreneur, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and they were, like said, these interviews always fun with
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: me because, like I said, we talked about his role
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and what he's doing on the screen, but it always
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: drips back to the man he is off the screen
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and cooking up Christmas is just an opportunity to see
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: his talents December fifteen on the Old Network. But more importantly,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: what he's doing off the camera. You know, when he's
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: doing walking down the street, when you're going, hey Jacob Steep,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: rocking boy, I love you and Green keep left the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: brother your community up and left the lament. Thank you, bron.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I really want to thank my legure man. Thanks always.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So you know, so uh so much fun to be
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: here with your bag. Like literally, we could do this
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: even with there were no cameras or whatever. Man, we'd
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: be just chopping it up, you know what I mean.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And we don't chop it up. Like I said, I'll
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: turn you off air. Don't do this, man, just sit
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: around Atlanta. All that stuff you were talking about. We
• 30:22
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• 30:24
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