Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Anne Burrell- Chef and Food Network Co-Host; Donatella Arpaia - The Meatball Queen; Dante Simpson- Co-Founder of esports digital media company; Tommy Duncan- CEO of JetDoc.com; and Navarr Grevious & Mikael Pyles founders “QuickLiq”
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me
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- 1:00Speaker 1: My next guest is one of my favorites. She's always
- 1:02Speaker 1: on my show once a year. And Burrell. She has
- 1:05Speaker 1: the trademark sparky blonde hair and sparking personality. And Burrels
- 1:10Speaker 1: he's hugely popular and fan favorite host The Worst Cooks
- 1:13Speaker 1: in America, my daughter's favorite show. You're also seeing Works
- 1:16Speaker 1: Cooks in the American celebrity edition, but we'll be talking
- 1:18Speaker 1: about Worst Cooks in America everyday. People. Well, she's on
- 1:22Speaker 1: the show to talk about that show. Worst Cooks in
- 1:24Speaker 1: America airs on Food Network every Sunday at nine pm,
- 1:27Speaker 1: so you know where to find meat. She's this year
- 1:30Speaker 1: with My Girl Call the Hall, facing off against My
- 1:33Speaker 1: Girl and Burrell to see who can transform these these
- 1:37Speaker 1: kitchen disasters into cooling error masters. Please work with the
- 1:41Speaker 1: money making conversations. And Burrell, well, Hi, it's so nice
- 1:47Speaker 1: to be well, you know, it means that we're both
- 1:50Speaker 1: are working and that's a good sime during the pandemic.
- 1:53Speaker 1: And uh, I'm thankful that I get to work every day. Absolutely,
- 1:59Speaker 1: did it affect? Did the effect into your productions in Um. Well, luckily,
- 2:07Speaker 1: I will have to say, we did a season of
- 2:10Speaker 1: Worse Cooks before everything shut down, and then right around
- 2:15Speaker 1: like after Labor Day in September, under September and October,
- 2:21Speaker 1: when things were sort of calmed down a little more,
- 2:23Speaker 1: we did a couple more seasons. So the season that's
- 2:25Speaker 1: airing now, um, and and then one that will air
- 2:29Speaker 1: in May. I think so. I mean, I've had some
- 2:33Speaker 1: things cancel, you know, like in person stuff and food
- 2:37Speaker 1: and wine festivals, but luckily, um, most of the big
- 2:41Speaker 1: stuff has been able to carry on thankfully. Well, I'm
- 2:46Speaker 1: gonna ask you, like I always telling you, my I'll
- 2:48Speaker 1: watch the show. First of all, you're a fantastic host.
- 2:51Speaker 1: You you have the right personality that keeps me engaged
- 2:53Speaker 1: because you care, you know, because this this could be
- 2:56Speaker 1: an interesting show for a host, because they could come
- 2:59Speaker 1: across negative because you deal with people who really aren't
- 3:01Speaker 1: good at what they do, and you're trying to motivate
- 3:04Speaker 1: them to be pull what little talent they may have
- 3:07Speaker 1: and put it in let's put it on display in
- 3:10Speaker 1: the kitchen. What makes you and you are to show
- 3:13Speaker 1: so much? Anne, Well, I have to say, I really do, um,
- 3:20Speaker 1: I feel like every season when I start afresh, Um,
- 3:24Speaker 1: it's like I start over and I take the journey
- 3:27Speaker 1: with these people. And to see where they start and
- 3:31Speaker 1: to see where they end up makes it all worthwhile.
- 3:36Speaker 1: And to know that these people come into boot camp
- 3:41Speaker 1: really pretty disastrously, and then you know, whether they say
- 3:47Speaker 1: a little time or a long time, they somehow leave
- 3:51Speaker 1: better cooks and they take it home to their families
- 3:54Speaker 1: and they cook with their families and it really does
- 3:57Speaker 1: change lives. And I take that, um as a responsibility.
- 4:02Speaker 1: So I do everything I can to bend over backwards
- 4:06Speaker 1: to really teach these people. And these people this season,
- 4:11Speaker 1: you know, um, they have more Southern accents on this
- 4:18Speaker 1: season than in the history to show. Everybody has an
- 4:21Speaker 1: accent on this show. And uh yeah, am I am?
- 4:26Speaker 1: I Am I wrong in saying that, No, you are
- 4:29Speaker 1: absolutely not. I mean, I mean, I'm from Houston, Texas,
- 4:34Speaker 1: and I know a Southern drawer without here, and it's
- 4:36Speaker 1: dominating the show. But that's a good thing. I'm not
- 4:38Speaker 1: saying nothing negative, but it means the characters of characters
- 4:40Speaker 1: that you have to deal with on this show. And
- 4:42Speaker 1: but when they couldn't open an didn't know how to
- 4:45Speaker 1: use a can open. I really had to take a
- 4:47Speaker 1: back seat to that. It does it really get that bad.
- 4:53Speaker 1: It really goes down to that base of a level
- 4:58Speaker 1: that we have to teach people out of open cans.
- 5:01Speaker 1: And I mean, uh, Joey Uh, the guy that couldn't
- 5:06Speaker 1: open the can on last night's episode was the sweetest guy,
- 5:11Speaker 1: but he really was caned opening challenge. I mean, what
- 5:18Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't just him, It was my girl too.
- 5:20Speaker 1: She didn't know either that MICHAELA right. I mean, UM,
- 5:26Speaker 1: and it just it's one of my favorite things every season.
- 5:30Speaker 1: I mean, Carla's reactions are so fantastic, but every co
- 5:35Speaker 1: host that I have, UM really does have some form
- 5:40Speaker 1: of that reaction uh in some way or another to
- 5:43Speaker 1: the recruits. And they look at me and they're like,
- 5:46Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how do you do this season after season?
- 5:51Speaker 1: And I'm like, to me, I just find it so
- 5:54Speaker 1: sort of delightfully endearing. UM. And then I finished it
- 5:58Speaker 1: up with an eye roll the part. And that's what
- 6:02Speaker 1: I'm saying that this is, UM, you've been a host.
- 6:05Speaker 1: It takes a certain personality because they're trying and there's
- 6:10Speaker 1: no gamick here that they actually can't cook. And then
- 6:14Speaker 1: finally they're thrown into a competition, and that's really their
- 6:19Speaker 1: flaws are even magnified in the competition. And so when
- 6:23Speaker 1: you're looking at talent, like first, as Joey we just
- 6:25Speaker 1: mentioned was on a recent episode he was voted off.
- 6:30Speaker 1: He was cutting himself every episode. I think he had
- 6:35Speaker 1: a band aid on almost every single finger. And I
- 6:40Speaker 1: loved his statement saying that, like, yeah, I've gotten to
- 6:43Speaker 1: know all the medics and then he named them all.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Um I just here. That was still liful. That was hilarious.
- 6:52Speaker 1: But there's prize money involved here, twenty five thou dollars, Yes,
- 6:58Speaker 1: a big prize money for whoever wins. And then it's
- 7:02Speaker 1: also sort of eternal bragging rights between myself and my
- 7:06Speaker 1: co host who is Carla this year? And um, and
- 7:11Speaker 1: it's it's between us to see who is the better teacher.
- 7:16Speaker 1: So it's like we are really striving to have our
- 7:19Speaker 1: our recruits improved here because that's just a little funny
- 7:23Speaker 1: competition between the two of us right now. But I'm
- 7:28Speaker 1: got just tell you dollars for people who cannot cook,
- 7:33Speaker 1: there's a nice hunk of money. You learn how to
- 7:36Speaker 1: cook and you walk away with. Now, have Maybe I'm wrong,
- 7:42Speaker 1: yere have you guys did a have you brought back
- 7:45Speaker 1: any past champions yet and did a best of best
- 7:49Speaker 1: of worst cooked championship series? Yet? We have not yet,
- 7:55Speaker 1: But I M I think that might be uh something
- 7:59Speaker 1: to consider, and I've pitched it to the Food Network before.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I think it might be something that they might uh
- 8:05Speaker 1: take under advisement, because because I would love because I
- 8:10Speaker 1: would love to pick up with these people where we
- 8:13Speaker 1: left off. You know, we only get a few short
- 8:17Speaker 1: weeks with them, and I feel like we just get
- 8:21Speaker 1: to scratch the surface of where they can go on
- 8:24Speaker 1: their culinary journey or they may have fallen off. And
- 8:29Speaker 1: that's another part of the show too, because that is true.
- 8:34Speaker 1: A lot of people, after words, cooks don't really carry
- 8:38Speaker 1: on cooking in the kitchen. A lot of them do,
- 8:40Speaker 1: but a fair amount of them don't, you know. And
- 8:44Speaker 1: so let me just ask you this question, and you
- 8:47Speaker 1: come on my show we talked about you know, I'm
- 8:48Speaker 1: a big fan of yours and the show which you
- 8:51Speaker 1: can see every Sunday night on a nap um Eastern
- 8:54Speaker 1: Standard time on the Food Network. Why why do you
- 8:57Speaker 1: think people like me enjoy watching the show? Well, I
- 9:02Speaker 1: think that there's a few levels that on which people
- 9:05Speaker 1: like worst cooks. I mean, uh, people look at other
- 9:09Speaker 1: people making mistakes that they're like, oh gosh, um, I
- 9:14Speaker 1: feel like maybe I just learned something from watching someone
- 9:16Speaker 1: else to make a mistake, or they think, oh jeez,
- 9:20Speaker 1: I'm not that bad, so it makes them feel a
- 9:22Speaker 1: little better about themselves. But then there's also the educational
- 9:26Speaker 1: part where people actually learn something, and I mean at
- 9:31Speaker 1: the beginning and the end of the days. To me,
- 9:33Speaker 1: it's a very sweet show that there's a lot of
- 9:36Speaker 1: layers in it. You know, people come into boot Camp,
- 9:40Speaker 1: we start laughing I would say, with them because they
- 9:43Speaker 1: know they're bad, so we're not really laughing at them
- 9:46Speaker 1: so much. Um, but they are funny and um. And
- 9:50Speaker 1: then you see the progress that they make by getting better,
- 9:55Speaker 1: and that to me makes me feel like a proud
- 9:58Speaker 1: mama every single time. But I think that you know,
- 10:01Speaker 1: there's a lot of um, there's a lot of humor
- 10:04Speaker 1: in the show, but there's also a lot of learning
- 10:06Speaker 1: and a lot of good feelings. This is one of
- 10:09Speaker 1: the reasons I like to show is that when you
- 10:12Speaker 1: guys are explaining what they have to make, you know,
- 10:17Speaker 1: you're explaining from such a common sense, basic level that
- 10:21Speaker 1: I've been able to cook some things myself by watching
- 10:25Speaker 1: you and the competing chef that's on the show of
- 10:28Speaker 1: the show, because that's really cool that, you know, because
- 10:31Speaker 1: it's such a Sometimes cooking can be so um so daunting,
- 10:36Speaker 1: because it seems like if you open a recipe book
- 10:38Speaker 1: and a teaspoon of this, and a couple of this
- 10:41Speaker 1: and all this, and you gotta be said, at this
- 10:43Speaker 1: certain amount of tempts you can't over over over cook
- 10:46Speaker 1: certain things, or you or it becomes a gluten It's
- 10:49Speaker 1: so many things you can do wrong. But when I
- 10:51Speaker 1: watch you guys do that segments that right now, and
- 10:54Speaker 1: they little notes so they can go into kitchen and
- 10:56Speaker 1: mess up or deliver what you request. That part of
- 10:59Speaker 1: the really right there, I find really informative with me,
- 11:03Speaker 1: and I really get a big kick out of it
- 11:04Speaker 1: because somethings y'all tell me I would never have done
- 11:07Speaker 1: it that way because I would never saw it that way.
- 11:09Speaker 1: But by seeing it being broken down to the basic levels,
- 11:13Speaker 1: it really helps me as a cook. I agree, And
- 11:17Speaker 1: that's why I teach the way I do. I mean,
- 11:20Speaker 1: I remember when I was in culinary school learning new things,
- 11:25Speaker 1: and I learn so much better by actually watching and
- 11:30Speaker 1: doing than just by someone talking to me or reading
- 11:34Speaker 1: it in a book. And when someone's uh explaining things
- 11:39Speaker 1: to you and they can explain the wise, the why
- 11:43Speaker 1: you do things and that kind of stuff, um, it
- 11:46Speaker 1: kind of connects the dots and makes so much more sense.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And it's also sometimes when you're reading recipes and you
- 11:52Speaker 1: don't know what certain cooking terms mean, then that as
- 11:57Speaker 1: another layer of difficulty. And that's what I'm saying that
- 12:02Speaker 1: that is so nice because if I'm watching and I'm
- 12:05Speaker 1: talking to Ambarrel, she's the the fantastic host of uh,
- 12:09Speaker 1: you know, the worst cooks in America that you see
- 12:11Speaker 1: them food. They they work on Sunday nights at nine
- 12:14Speaker 1: pm Eastern. The thing I've really enjoyed that, especially during
- 12:19Speaker 1: the pandemic time, you know, because we were all trapped
- 12:21Speaker 1: in our home and we still trapped in our homes.
- 12:23Speaker 1: I apologize and being able to and so a lot
- 12:25Speaker 1: of home cooked meals and people are going to the
- 12:28Speaker 1: grocery store shopping and buying things so they can cook
- 12:31Speaker 1: at home and feel safe. That has really been a
- 12:34Speaker 1: blessing watching your show, and there's just you know, pay
- 12:39Speaker 1: per view. I can go and go back into in
- 12:41Speaker 1: demand and watch your past show. That's what my daughter does.
- 12:43Speaker 1: So it really is it really is fun watching it.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Have you seen that play out or you on your
- 12:48Speaker 1: social media? People being engaged because of the fact that
- 12:51Speaker 1: you're providing them while they're trapped in their homes or
- 12:55Speaker 1: or the mundane life because of COVID nineteen. Oh, I'm slutely,
- 13:01Speaker 1: very much so. And the nice thing I have to say,
- 13:05Speaker 1: you know, we're always looking for silver linings during the
- 13:09Speaker 1: pandemic time. And I've been reached out to by so
- 13:14Speaker 1: many former recruits that say, oh my gosh, thank you
- 13:19Speaker 1: so much for everything I learned. Because I'm cooking all
- 13:22Speaker 1: the time now and now I can cook during the
- 13:26Speaker 1: pandemic and this has been a lifesaver. So, I mean,
- 13:30Speaker 1: I just it warms my heart. It makes me so happy.
- 13:34Speaker 1: What makes me happy? And next, it's the new season
- 13:37Speaker 1: The Worst Cooks in America. Every Sunday and Nappy I'm
- 13:40Speaker 1: on the Food Network. I'm talking to the host and
- 13:42Speaker 1: Barrel first Prize. It's twenty five dollars Sunday finale February
- 13:48Speaker 1: to the two most improved recruits, but all their newly
- 13:51Speaker 1: learned calling theary skills to the test to press an
- 13:54Speaker 1: panel of food expert and again I always thank you
- 13:57Speaker 1: for coming on my show. I'll have a good time
- 13:59Speaker 1: because like I have a good time watching your TV. YEA, well,
- 14:03Speaker 1: it's always so nice to talk to you. Thank you
- 14:07Speaker 1: for having me. Be safe now and need taps and
- 14:10Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. Okay, thank you very much to my friends.
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- 16:22Speaker 1: guest is truly a dreamer. She's a person I met
- 16:24Speaker 1: several years ago on air and I called her the
- 16:26Speaker 1: meatball Queen and affects me, you know, I said like
- 16:30Speaker 1: that because I've always interviewed her via podcast. It is
- 16:33Speaker 1: the first time I've seen her and they called Donna
- 16:35Speaker 1: tell her, I'll pay you a meatball queen doesn't fit.
- 16:38Speaker 1: It doesn't fit. It's nice to see you in personally.
- 16:48Speaker 1: We have a lot of money making conversations to talk
- 16:50Speaker 1: about on this show, because in twenty sixteen, you know
- 16:52Speaker 1: the debate of the quick service prof of Pizza Ball,
- 16:55Speaker 1: which I've been to twice, by the way, and the
- 16:57Speaker 1: very first time I interviewed you, I went there and
- 16:59Speaker 1: had an amazing time. I took two friends, I got
- 17:01Speaker 1: photos and all that stuff. But you're gonna probably expand
- 17:04Speaker 1: on that, and you have another Probra Pizza bart Maxi
- 17:06Speaker 1: New York City, NYC Times Square Hotel. And so now
- 17:10Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about you being a regular co host.
- 17:12Speaker 1: I'll CEO TV all the time. And it's amazing what
- 17:15Speaker 1: you're doing in your life, your collection at Frank Gate.
- 17:18Speaker 1: So it's a business show that we're talking about. We're
- 17:20Speaker 1: gonna talk about all the brands of what she offers.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making conversation for the third time,
- 17:26Speaker 1: the third time, Donna tell you, I'll pay you so much.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Thank you. Well down to tell you. You know, you
- 17:36Speaker 1: know you know him from Houston, Texas, and you know
- 17:37Speaker 1: I got this Southern accent and I tried my best
- 17:41Speaker 1: to spin the rotate those words and those curved those
- 17:44Speaker 1: ailes and those a's and and I hope I'm doing
- 17:47Speaker 1: a good job with your name. You're pretty good. Don
- 17:49Speaker 1: tell you're gonna see stop stop you're just messing over.
- 17:54Speaker 1: It's just stop. Let's talk about you. You know you
- 17:56Speaker 1: we know we know. First of all, you look fantastic.
- 17:58Speaker 1: You know, look, thank you for going to my restaurant.
- 18:01Speaker 1: And yes, a few years ago, I launched Proba Pizza
- 18:05Speaker 1: Bar in Grand Central Terminal in UM in the Moxie
- 18:10Speaker 1: Square Times Square and obviously doing fantastically well until COVID,
- 18:16Speaker 1: which right now happens to be the heart of the
- 18:20Speaker 1: pandemic in those two locations. So it's very interesting to
- 18:24Speaker 1: see how we're adapting. But we're still um fighting the
- 18:28Speaker 1: fight and and looking at other locations because even though
- 18:33Speaker 1: I think the hospitality industry as a whole has completely
- 18:38Speaker 1: changed because of COVID, there's also tremendous opportunities. So you
- 18:42Speaker 1: have to be resilient, you have to adapt, and you
- 18:46Speaker 1: gotta you gotta fight the fight every day. Well, an
- 18:48Speaker 1: interesting thing about let's talk about you know where I
- 18:51Speaker 1: went at First, We're gonna talk about a lot of
- 18:53Speaker 1: your other enterprises. You have available to pizza bar, which
- 18:56Speaker 1: is casual dining, correct, Yes, I want to to be
- 19:00Speaker 1: like what you know. Shake Check was the answer to
- 19:03Speaker 1: Burger King. I felt like there is a need for
- 19:07Speaker 1: artisanal pizza. I have a very unique pizza and with
- 19:12Speaker 1: all natural ingredients, and the pizza has a long rise
- 19:15Speaker 1: and it's highly digestible, high water content. I am from Naples,
- 19:20Speaker 1: my father's birthplace, and I studied in Naples, and I'm
- 19:23Speaker 1: really using fresh quality ingredients because you know, you get
- 19:27Speaker 1: what you pay for. And a lot of the pizza
- 19:29Speaker 1: chains out there, you know, you can get pizza for
- 19:32Speaker 1: you know, five dollars, but a lot of times it's
- 19:34Speaker 1: not really pizza and it's not really cheese. And and
- 19:38Speaker 1: so we really I'm committed to the best ingredients, the
- 19:42Speaker 1: best meatballs, of course, because I am the meatball queen.
- 19:45Speaker 1: And uh yeah that that that's the goal. And it
- 19:49Speaker 1: really was a huge success. Um And to launch in
- 19:53Speaker 1: places like Grand Central in Times Square is where you
- 19:56Speaker 1: want to launch brands. And I'm gonna tell you, I
- 19:59Speaker 1: always be a see whenever I went, always packed. The
- 20:02Speaker 1: service was always fantastic because the reason I say that
- 20:05Speaker 1: is that because Grandson was a touristy. You know a
- 20:08Speaker 1: lot of people come through their fast traffic, and so
- 20:11Speaker 1: sometimes you get whatever type service. I'm gonna tell you something,
- 20:13Speaker 1: the two times I went there, I never told him
- 20:15Speaker 1: I knew you I went. I always like to do that.
- 20:18Speaker 1: I don't come in there trying to get anything free
- 20:20Speaker 1: and cut me a deal. And because I really want
- 20:22Speaker 1: the experience, and I enjoyed it. I took photos and
- 20:26Speaker 1: and all that, and I posted it on my social
- 20:28Speaker 1: media and I said, well, you know, that was one
- 20:31Speaker 1: time I went through they let me go back through
- 20:32Speaker 1: their a gee because New York tea is my favorite city,
- 20:35Speaker 1: so I always I brought a couple of more friends.
- 20:37Speaker 1: I brought one of the first time she was female,
- 20:39Speaker 1: and I brought two of my buddies. You know, guys,
- 20:41Speaker 1: you know, bring us some rough people into your place.
- 20:44Speaker 1: And they all loved the pizza. Cuse hamburgers and pizza
- 20:48Speaker 1: and and is my two favorite things. And so your pizza,
- 20:51Speaker 1: you are right about the dough. The dough is different,
- 20:54Speaker 1: and it and it and it and it was very
- 20:56Speaker 1: fresh and it was it was amazing. And so when
- 21:01Speaker 1: when you talk about the service, you talk about quality.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Now you're talking about I hear you the word dominot.
- 21:06Speaker 1: How you word shape check. That means you're trying to
- 21:08Speaker 1: take your brain in a national platform, which means that
- 21:11Speaker 1: quality control is very important. How do you maintain that? Yes,
- 21:15Speaker 1: quality control and consistency is everything. Um. You know, I've
- 21:19Speaker 1: been in the restaurant business for twenty years and I
- 21:22Speaker 1: came from fine dining. So thank you for the compliment
- 21:25Speaker 1: on service, because I do feel that even if you
- 21:27Speaker 1: have casual, service is important and more than ever, I
- 21:31Speaker 1: think we lack the personal touch. And when you get
- 21:34Speaker 1: good service and you get an actual smile from someone,
- 21:37Speaker 1: people remember. So that's really important. And Grand Central is
- 21:41Speaker 1: very touristic, but it also has a lot of consistent people,
- 21:44Speaker 1: so we have a lot of regulars. The bar there
- 21:46Speaker 1: is like cheers at night. So, but quality control is everything.
- 21:50Speaker 1: It's about systems, a lot of paperwork, protocol, consistency, um.
- 21:57Speaker 1: You know, you have to really build can existency. It's
- 22:00Speaker 1: all about consistency when you grow. So hopefully as I
- 22:04Speaker 1: expand to other cities, if you get my meatballs in Texas,
- 22:08Speaker 1: maybe I'll come to Texas will be the same as
- 22:11Speaker 1: New York. That's the goal. And I think the most
- 22:13Speaker 1: important thing is to not expand too quickly, but not
- 22:17Speaker 1: too slowly either. So if you have a good team,
- 22:20Speaker 1: you reward them well, set up incentives and and you know,
- 22:25Speaker 1: keep things consistent all the time and stay true to
- 22:27Speaker 1: your brand. Well, you know, the reality is we are
- 22:29Speaker 1: in COVID and it's talks about people. And you like
- 22:32Speaker 1: said you landed in great locations because they were heavy traffic,
- 22:37Speaker 1: natural heavy traffic. Then you hear COVID hits starts limiting people.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Travel starts limiting, especially on transportation, especially on a tourist area.
- 22:46Speaker 1: That's where the town Square is really tours because people
- 22:49Speaker 1: come down there, and then transportation wise, the Grand Central
- 22:52Speaker 1: station was perfect location. How did you pivot in those
- 22:55Speaker 1: two locations? I'm sorry, how did you pivot in those
- 22:59Speaker 1: two low ocasions with traffic being diminished in those two
- 23:03Speaker 1: locations in Times Square as well as Grain Central. Yeah,
- 23:07Speaker 1: it's been very difficult. I mean we have to. You know,
- 23:09Speaker 1: we're just talking with the landlords about renegotiating rents right now.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Delivery is also an option, but to be honest, New
- 23:18Speaker 1: York City is a tale of many cities right now.
- 23:20Speaker 1: So you know, on the Upper east Side and Lower
- 23:23Speaker 1: east Side, the residential areas, the restaurants are doing well,
- 23:27Speaker 1: but Midtown right now is a bit of a ghost town.
- 23:30Speaker 1: So it's it's very difficult. The idea is just to
- 23:34Speaker 1: stay consistent and to work with landlords and do the
- 23:37Speaker 1: best we can right now and ride this out. I hope,
- 23:40Speaker 1: let's hope. There's only so many things. I'm usually the
- 23:44Speaker 1: type of person I think most restaurateurs and entrepreneurs are
- 23:47Speaker 1: that we always find a way COVID is something, you know,
- 23:51Speaker 1: it's a once in a century pandemic, and the way
- 23:55Speaker 1: it's impacted New York, especially in Midtown, has been quite
- 24:00Speaker 1: devastating because you have all the people in the offices
- 24:03Speaker 1: still not coming to work, they're working remotely, and tourists
- 24:07Speaker 1: obviously are not there. So you're starting to get weekenders. Slowly,
- 24:12Speaker 1: I'm starting to see the light a little bit. So
- 24:15Speaker 1: that's that's been a little. Um, that's been a little difficult.
- 24:20Speaker 1: You know, we keep I've been through worse things before,
- 24:23Speaker 1: and um, the product is excellent and we're consistent and
- 24:28Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna keep at it. Well, you know,
- 24:30Speaker 1: you still do your TV, and that's that's that's been
- 24:33Speaker 1: a huge opportunity. So interestingly enough, during COVID everyone's talked
- 24:38Speaker 1: about food and medicine. And I'm married to a world
- 24:43Speaker 1: right no heart surgeon and in February now upcoming as
- 24:47Speaker 1: heart health months, so everyone was constantly interested in how
- 24:51Speaker 1: to cook at home because for the first time people
- 24:53Speaker 1: how to cook at home. You couldn't go out to eat,
- 24:56Speaker 1: you couldn't get take out. And you know, I'm a
- 24:58Speaker 1: working mother too, been though I'm a chef. I'm zooming
- 25:01Speaker 1: into wonderful shows like you, and I still have to
- 25:04Speaker 1: get dinner on the table. So other beautiful opportunities came about,
- 25:08Speaker 1: which is I've become the brand ambassador to Phillips air
- 25:13Speaker 1: Fryer and their Home Whole Home Kitchen Appliances Network, where
- 25:19Speaker 1: I'm creating recipes for them and for the busy mom
- 25:24Speaker 1: who's working or staying at home or doing remote learning.
- 25:26Speaker 1: It's been trying, but through that many opportunities have occurred.
- 25:31Speaker 1: So this has been a very exciting new partnership that
- 25:34Speaker 1: I have with Phillips Hotel. You're telling me that you're
- 25:38Speaker 1: the brand a browsador for Phillips for us. Yes, do
- 25:41Speaker 1: you know? I'm so man that you I bought one
- 25:45Speaker 1: in September from my house and didn't know what did
- 25:48Speaker 1: you become the brand ambassador? It just happened. So I'm gonna, well,
- 25:53Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna have to send you there
- 25:55Speaker 1: other products? What do you have an air fryer? Absolutely absolutely,
- 25:59Speaker 1: having a fun air friar is the best. And you know,
- 26:02Speaker 1: for me, it's very important how you attach yourself to brim.
- 26:07Speaker 1: I just started using the Phillips air Friyar at home
- 26:10Speaker 1: and it came authentically um, and I became obsessed with
- 26:14Speaker 1: the product. And yes, so I'm going to create a
- 26:17Speaker 1: whole website of content and they will be giveaways and recipe.
- 26:21Speaker 1: You're gonna be part of my next competition. We have
- 26:24Speaker 1: a postamator. Maybe I'll send you one if you're a
- 26:26Speaker 1: good boy. I'm you know the posta that's a little work, though,
- 26:30Speaker 1: I would just tell you, I'm I'm telling you, no work,
- 26:34Speaker 1: No put it in the pasta. You kidding me? Because
- 26:41Speaker 1: the posta can. I got the little thing you put
- 26:43Speaker 1: on in front of the d I got that. I
- 26:44Speaker 1: got the kitchen aid to make the work. Oh my god,
- 26:49Speaker 1: I'm if that's why, that's why I throw my hands up.
- 26:52Speaker 1: I am not doing that. But if you tell me
- 26:55Speaker 1: that I could do something with pasta because I love
- 26:57Speaker 1: pasta and it's easy, you got it. You got me.
- 27:02Speaker 1: That's when in five minutes, I'm telling you, and then
- 27:05Speaker 1: I want you to make a recipe for me and
- 27:08Speaker 1: posted on social media. You know I do that. That's
- 27:11Speaker 1: that's easy. Now. Now now that I know that you
- 27:14Speaker 1: part of Phillips, I gotta show people take photos of
- 27:17Speaker 1: me and the photo of you. This is MC girl,
- 27:19Speaker 1: This is my girl right here, Phillips, because I got
- 27:21Speaker 1: the Africa, because I bought a building and I got
- 27:23Speaker 1: another a friar here and my new building I bought
- 27:27Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and I'm gonna have to send you another one.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Then they're the best. They're the best, and so so.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Now now, but let's talk about this pasta maker, because
- 27:36Speaker 1: like I said, I got all the little adapters from
- 27:39Speaker 1: my kitchen aid, I swear to you, don't tell her
- 27:42Speaker 1: I do not use it. I used it one time
- 27:44Speaker 1: in Chicago when I bought it in that's what I bought.
- 27:50Speaker 1: I got wise I saw it, I went to I said,
- 27:52Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this ever again. So well, that's
- 27:56Speaker 1: the whole thing about Phillips, and I am attracted to them,
- 28:00Speaker 1: and I'm not just the brand ambassador. I'm creating tutorials
- 28:03Speaker 1: because you know today everyone when they get whatever equipment
- 28:07Speaker 1: you get, it's no use unless you take it out
- 28:09Speaker 1: of the box. Yes, and so I'm gonna have video
- 28:12Speaker 1: tutorials to make it easy. But I'm telling you, you
- 28:15Speaker 1: put flour, water and egg, you jump it in and
- 28:17Speaker 1: pasta shoots out in five minutes. It's that easy. And
- 28:21Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have a lot of videos, a lot
- 28:23Speaker 1: of tutorials. It's very exciting stuff, very exciting just between me.
- 28:28Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I'm announcing something to you because
- 28:31Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people don't know there's
- 28:32Speaker 1: done to tell them I am. I'm gonna launch my
- 28:35Speaker 1: own Rochan's Kitchen. It's gonna be a local in the
- 28:37Speaker 1: Georgia area by two million householders. And I love it.
- 28:42Speaker 1: At the top of the show, I always either bake
- 28:44Speaker 1: something or cook something at the top of my show.
- 28:47Speaker 1: In a launch of April, I want to do if
- 28:50Speaker 1: you say it's that easy, If you say it's that easy,
- 28:53Speaker 1: I want to do it on you on my show.
- 28:55Speaker 1: That's the first recipe I want to do on my
- 28:57Speaker 1: show if you say it. Because because I'm telling you
- 29:00Speaker 1: is that if he was on the show, I would
- 29:02Speaker 1: get I would bring this box and said it right
- 29:04Speaker 1: on this death right here and show you. I've only
- 29:07Speaker 1: opened his box one time, and when I used it,
- 29:10Speaker 1: I put it right back in his box. That's the
- 29:12Speaker 1: last time I've ever attempted to make pasta ever. Yes, well,
- 29:16Speaker 1: and you know what the good thing about this, you
- 29:19Speaker 1: know during COVID. Like I said, my husband Dr Alan Stewart,
- 29:22Speaker 1: he's a world renowned heart surgeon, and we have to
- 29:25Speaker 1: I love food, so I'm not going to be puritanical here,
- 29:28Speaker 1: but we have to be healthy and I love pasta.
- 29:31Speaker 1: With this pasta maker, you can make keto pasta. You
- 29:33Speaker 1: can make high protein pasta, so you don't even have
- 29:36Speaker 1: to feel as guilty. And obviously the air friar too,
- 29:39Speaker 1: you're cooking with less fat. So I'm trying to come
- 29:42Speaker 1: up with a lot of recipes that still are delicious,
- 29:46Speaker 1: but you know, are nicer on your waistline because as
- 29:49Speaker 1: you know, I had twins a few years ago and
- 29:51Speaker 1: and I was a little bit older, so you know,
- 29:54Speaker 1: getting the weight off took a while. And health and
- 29:58Speaker 1: health and being an entrepreneur and how you feel is
- 30:00Speaker 1: very very important for that equation too. So okay, now
- 30:04Speaker 1: let's talk about Now you still have your lifestyle brand
- 30:06Speaker 1: in front Gate, I do. I have a lot of
- 30:10Speaker 1: products there and I'm also the brand ambassador for Galbani Professional,
- 30:15Speaker 1: which is the number one cheese of Italy. And that
- 30:19Speaker 1: happened because I did a blind tasting for cheese at
- 30:22Speaker 1: my restaurant Pro BA and so I do wonderful work
- 30:26Speaker 1: with them and the restaurant industry, and I really promote
- 30:30Speaker 1: because they are to me, the best cheese in the industry.
- 30:33Speaker 1: And I create a lot of delicious recipes there too.
- 30:36Speaker 1: And do you like dessert? I'm so, what's your weakness dessert?
- 30:42Speaker 1: Let me take some, don't tell you. Here's the funny
- 30:44Speaker 1: thing about it. Front Gates my favorite store. Okay. All
- 30:47Speaker 1: my outdoor furniture in my home in Houston and in
- 30:51Speaker 1: uh Atlanta is front Gate, and so I'm to figure
- 30:55Speaker 1: that's the highest quality. If I turned my camera, you
- 30:59Speaker 1: could see my outside to the best customer service, the
- 31:04Speaker 1: little the little brandy. Um. Yeah, I can't wait to
- 31:07Speaker 1: start working with them again and creating a new collection. Okay, cool,
- 31:10Speaker 1: because you gotta tell me, because I do want to
- 31:12Speaker 1: buy some more things because I gotta outdoor a fireplas
- 31:15Speaker 1: area that I want to I want to upgrade the
- 31:17Speaker 1: furniture there. So let me know what. Because I do
- 31:19Speaker 1: buy from front Gate. That's why it's so funny. I
- 31:21Speaker 1: bought a bought Phillips. Didn't know you was part of
- 31:24Speaker 1: that brand. By all my outdoor furniture from front Gate
- 31:27Speaker 1: didn't know you had an entertaining collection and at front
- 31:30Speaker 1: gates and so in our Garbani professional chief, I love
- 31:35Speaker 1: that cheese. So I'm trying to figure out. I'm gonna
- 31:38Speaker 1: send you some cheese. I'm trying to figure out. And
- 31:42Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know this. This is the
- 31:43Speaker 1: funny point, because I don't want to like I don't
- 31:45Speaker 1: try to blow smoking people. I don't try to act
- 31:46Speaker 1: like I do these things. This is my life, you know.
- 31:50Speaker 1: And the fact that you're doing all these things and
- 31:54Speaker 1: I'm a fan, our purchaser of all these products is
- 31:58Speaker 1: a testament that even living the right life, I'm heading
- 32:01Speaker 1: in the right direction. We're gonna bump heads somewhere, you
- 32:06Speaker 1: know what. Maybe come visit you and Georgia sometime when
- 32:09Speaker 1: all this craziness ends and we'll cook together. That's you
- 32:14Speaker 1: in my office. When I bought the building, it has
- 32:16Speaker 1: a full kitchen in it, it has an oven, It
- 32:19Speaker 1: had my staff. Like, for instance, I have some people
- 32:22Speaker 1: coming in from another office. We're gonna cook some red
- 32:25Speaker 1: beans and rice and as a corn bread background in
- 32:27Speaker 1: your cheese, I'm an bake some chicken. I'm gonna have
- 32:30Speaker 1: to cheesese cakes. So you asked the question. I gotta
- 32:33Speaker 1: answer because everybody knows I'm a dessert nut. I have
- 32:36Speaker 1: eighty recipes I have on the app. So what desserts
- 32:38Speaker 1: were you talking about this? I'll pay you. What dessert
- 32:42Speaker 1: are you trying? What kind of desserts are you trying
- 32:45Speaker 1: to get into my You a chocolate person or like,
- 32:48Speaker 1: tell me, okay, my wife loves chocolate. She loves chocolate,
- 32:53Speaker 1: so so okay, So for Valentine's Day, I'm gonna send
- 32:56Speaker 1: you my recipe. It literally takes seven minutes for the
- 33:01Speaker 1: molden chocolate lava cake and the air fryer. It comes
- 33:04Speaker 1: out perfectly in the Philip's air fry. I just made it.
- 33:07Speaker 1: I'm gonna post it on my social media site, Donna
- 33:10Speaker 1: Teller are Pie. You gotta follow me on Instagram and
- 33:14Speaker 1: I'm telling you you're gonna have chocolate lava cake and
- 33:17Speaker 1: it is so good. So it's all about getting good
- 33:21Speaker 1: quality chocolate and in seven minutes you can have chocolate
- 33:25Speaker 1: lava cake. You're making me. You're making me happy man.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Happy man. Happy man is meaning that all these things
- 33:34Speaker 1: I've walked away because it's been so difficult. Now you're
- 33:37Speaker 1: telling me we shall come back to the dog side.
- 33:40Speaker 1: Come back over here, come back overa, come over here
- 33:42Speaker 1: to the d A. D A got something for you.
- 33:45Speaker 1: We got some easy pasta. We've got some easy chocolate
- 33:48Speaker 1: to search for you to make. I'm a post it
- 33:50Speaker 1: on my social media tell the world. Indeed, you know,
- 33:56Speaker 1: I think, uh, I knew. It's so good to finally
- 33:59Speaker 1: see you because I knew when I spoke to you
- 34:01Speaker 1: that you were a food person, that you love food.
- 34:04Speaker 1: It's just the way you speak about you know. I
- 34:08Speaker 1: had interviewed a lot. You can tell that the hosts
- 34:10Speaker 1: that are into food and that are not into food.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I think people that are into food have an extra
- 34:16Speaker 1: passion for life, which is the key to success with anything.
- 34:20Speaker 1: It shows. It's authentic, just like your show. You love
- 34:23Speaker 1: what you do. And I thank you for being a
- 34:26Speaker 1: guest again today because you just are, you know, infectious
- 34:30Speaker 1: the way you interview. So I really thank you and
- 34:32Speaker 1: I and I'm so glad that you went to Proba
- 34:35Speaker 1: and you loved the food. And I am a meat
- 34:38Speaker 1: poke leon. I'm very proud of it, very proud of it.
- 34:41Speaker 1: I want meat ball madness two years in a row,
- 34:44Speaker 1: and now I'm coming up with some meat all air
- 34:46Speaker 1: fryer recipes to cut on the fat so we can
- 34:49Speaker 1: save room for a little dessert so that we can
- 34:52Speaker 1: stay hard healthy. So it's good. It's good. Life is
- 34:55Speaker 1: you know what. It's been a trying year, but it's true,
- 35:00Speaker 1: which does not kill you makes you stronger. And I
- 35:03Speaker 1: think I've come out of COVID stronger with exciting new
- 35:07Speaker 1: opportunities that would have never come up before with Phillips
- 35:11Speaker 1: and my continuing relationship with Galbani, and there are some
- 35:15Speaker 1: pizza restaurants in the future expanding. I'm just I'm just
- 35:20Speaker 1: waiting a little bit right now until this all calms
- 35:23Speaker 1: down with the vaccines here. So hopefully my husband seems
- 35:26Speaker 1: to think that by the fall things should normalize again.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Well I hope so. Well, I want to stay. First
- 35:32Speaker 1: of all, you're amazing and for me for and to
- 35:35Speaker 1: call you the meatball Queen, and you're beautiful that you know,
- 35:38Speaker 1: it really a struggle. I'm just going to the struggle.
- 35:40Speaker 1: But you you wanted twice, you deserve that title. Secondly,
- 35:44Speaker 1: I'm I'll tell you pr people to contact me. I'm
- 35:47Speaker 1: gonna send you a photo of my kitchen so you
- 35:49Speaker 1: can see because what I want you to understand, d A,
- 35:52Speaker 1: is that I'm the real deal. When I come to food,
- 35:55Speaker 1: I will I get up at four o'clock. I probably
- 35:58Speaker 1: get him off for his six must have come in.
- 36:00Speaker 1: They have muffins, wig known, they have some corn bread.
- 36:04Speaker 1: I've done taco salads for them. I've done barbecue settings
- 36:08Speaker 1: for them. I enjoy That's the part that relaxes me.
- 36:12Speaker 1: I don't smoke, I don't drink, and that this is negative.
- 36:14Speaker 1: I just enjoyed life. And that's part of the you know,
- 36:17Speaker 1: God gave me the gift and I can do with
- 36:19Speaker 1: things and I can share. And so I'm just telling
- 36:22Speaker 1: you is that I'm gonna send you my address, and uh,
- 36:25Speaker 1: let you know you better. I'm gonna send you lots
- 36:28Speaker 1: of Phillips stuff, and we're gonna start cooking together. And
- 36:32Speaker 1: hopefully you'll see all the exciting things that I'm doing
- 36:34Speaker 1: with Phillips this year. We really are are. It's it's
- 36:38Speaker 1: an exciting relationship that we started. And you know what's interesting.
- 36:43Speaker 1: The number one Google search that occurred with food when
- 36:48Speaker 1: COVID happened was not what recipe, but how to cook?
- 36:51Speaker 1: So I'm hoping and I think you're the same way
- 36:54Speaker 1: that there is a return to cooking because it's a
- 36:57Speaker 1: way to show joy and love. You know, I'm first
- 37:00Speaker 1: generation from Italian immigrants that sound My mother, God rest
- 37:03Speaker 1: her soul, showed her love to me every day. And
- 37:08Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this really quick. I
- 37:10Speaker 1: used to be a lawyer for half to half a minute,
- 37:12Speaker 1: but I left to follow my passion for food because
- 37:16Speaker 1: I love to feed people and I love to bring
- 37:19Speaker 1: people together, and I think at the end, that's what
- 37:21Speaker 1: it's all about. And when you follow your passion, success follows. Well.
- 37:27Speaker 1: You know, I remember that I've read that we talked
- 37:29Speaker 1: about it for the first time when you left your
- 37:31Speaker 1: career as a lawyer, I think the age of twenty seven,
- 37:33Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, I remember, and I always because that's important,
- 37:42Speaker 1: because it was important for me because a lot of
- 37:44Speaker 1: people don't follow their dreams because they fear they areknown.
- 37:47Speaker 1: And I see the journey that you've been part of,
- 37:49Speaker 1: and I'm really the reason I like my show is that,
- 37:53Speaker 1: you know, I've watched my relationships grow and I consider
- 37:55Speaker 1: you one of those great relationships. And to see that
- 37:58Speaker 1: you were a couple of unknown people you came on
- 38:00Speaker 1: mar show, respected what I was trying to do, and
- 38:02Speaker 1: I promoted your brand. And to see now that you've
- 38:04Speaker 1: being such a strong entrepreneur. And the funny part about
- 38:07Speaker 1: it is that I'm already purchasing. I participating at front Gate,
- 38:11Speaker 1: and I bought the Phillips already and got Banni. And
- 38:14Speaker 1: you're gonna You're gonna send me a recipe or some
- 38:16Speaker 1: device on how I can be five many uh pasta,
- 38:20Speaker 1: which is crazy, and this recipe on how to do
- 38:22Speaker 1: chocolate in seven minutes. I'm gonna tell you you have
- 38:25Speaker 1: no have no fear Rashard McDonald. The thing I want
- 38:29Speaker 1: to do first is please tell your PR person to
- 38:32Speaker 1: email me. I won't let you see that Rashan is
- 38:35Speaker 1: very serious about this kitchen. I will send you a
- 38:38Speaker 1: photo of my kitchen in my office, in my office,
- 38:42Speaker 1: and you go, He's the truth, Because when you talk
- 38:44Speaker 1: to me, I want you to know you're talking to
- 38:46Speaker 1: the truth, not a hype man, not a man trying
- 38:50Speaker 1: to make Dinna, trying to make a fie get inside.
- 38:53Speaker 1: I'm the real deal. I love dessert, I love food.
- 38:56Speaker 1: I like it's more. People come on my show. Who
- 38:59Speaker 1: has ship? Did any talk show in the country. I
- 39:02Speaker 1: have everybody on my show. I have and on my show.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I rock on my show. I have Samuel s on
- 39:07Speaker 1: my show. I was talking to show so this earlier
- 39:09Speaker 1: on my show. Area Cheff comes on my show because
- 39:11Speaker 1: they know I love food. I have a passion to
- 39:14Speaker 1: support the branches. You guys career. I know y'all got
- 39:17Speaker 1: victimized by COVID and eighteen. I'm gonna help drag y'all
- 39:20Speaker 1: out of that and let y'all know that your boy
- 39:22Speaker 1: is there with you. More importantly, I'm a fan. You
- 39:25Speaker 1: look fantastic, meatball queen, and don't stop. Thank you so much,
- 39:30Speaker 1: Tri Sean, thank you. Yeah. So I Mikey, people are
- 39:33Speaker 1: listening in and there's gonna you send me that photo today,
- 39:37Speaker 1: I'm gonna send to you all these beautiful products from
- 39:39Speaker 1: Phillips and we're gonna get cooking. I say, thank you,
- 39:42Speaker 1: I appreciate you. We will be right back with more
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- 41:05Speaker 1: Sean McDonald host the Money Making Conversations. The Cafe Marca
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- 41:56Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations with your host Son McDonald.
- 42:01Speaker 1: It is important to understand that everybody travels a different
- 42:03Speaker 1: path to success. That's because your brand is different the
- 42:07Speaker 1: challenges you're facing, your life will be different. So stop
- 42:09Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and really start writing your own. Now.
- 42:13Speaker 1: You can be motivated by their success because their stories
- 42:16Speaker 1: can offer direction and also give you an opportunity to
- 42:18Speaker 1: see how they were successful at what they did. But
- 42:22Speaker 1: it's about what you're trying to do with your life,
- 42:24Speaker 1: how you plan it out, and what commit commitments that
- 42:26Speaker 1: you make to your efforts. That's why I bring guests
- 42:28Speaker 1: on my show. Just like my next guest, who is
- 42:31Speaker 1: Tommy Duncan. He started his first healthcare company at twenty
- 42:34Speaker 1: six years of age, then he sold it. Then he
- 42:37Speaker 1: started Trusted Health Plan and Medicaid managed care company that
- 42:41Speaker 1: ensued fifty thousand people between DC and Detroit. Then he
- 42:44Speaker 1: sold that in January of the Blue Cross Blue Shield.
- 42:48Speaker 1: A week later, he started jet Doc. Jet Doctor is
- 42:51Speaker 1: a telehealth platform provided an immediate virtual urgent care visits
- 42:55Speaker 1: plus access to the prescriptions and pharmacist across the country
- 42:59Speaker 1: for the twenty dollars per visit or ten dollars per month.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Please working the money making conversations. He's ever selling and
- 43:05Speaker 1: he's ever moving. My man, Tommy Duncan, Hey, Tommy, Tommy
- 43:12Speaker 1: first of all at a young age, let's let's talk
- 43:15Speaker 1: about your dude, your college background. Is that college in
- 43:18Speaker 1: your past history? Or you a guy who just has
- 43:21Speaker 1: a strong entrepreneur spirit. No, we don't want to FAMU Okay,
- 43:26Speaker 1: fam mute, HPC. You know I knew that, but I
- 43:30Speaker 1: want you to have a little bit more energy be
- 43:32Speaker 1: having man because you know you say, fam mute, you
- 43:34Speaker 1: got the bunch of basing all the way, okay, because
- 43:40Speaker 1: you kind of got underrated if HBCU second place to Howard, right,
- 43:48Speaker 1: but fam is the truth. We're gonna tell you something.
- 43:51Speaker 1: You made me a lot of successful attorneys, right, doctors right,
- 43:56Speaker 1: Howard right in these other HBCUs, which I'm a big
- 43:59Speaker 1: supporter of, leve them right. But when you find entrepreneurs
- 44:04Speaker 1: that's successful in business fan news where they come from,
- 44:08Speaker 1: well I can't argue with that. You know, I think
- 44:10Speaker 1: that when you look at what has happened this year
- 44:12Speaker 1: with their COVID and eighteen somehow people have discovered I
- 44:16Speaker 1: say people, the general market, the general public, the the
- 44:21Speaker 1: donors have found HBCUs. Why do you think it's popped
- 44:25Speaker 1: out like this? Why do you think they recognition for
- 44:28Speaker 1: HBCUs being a critically acclaimed academic institution for African Americans
- 44:32Speaker 1: or people of color. You know, I'll be over with
- 44:35Speaker 1: you man. You know, in my travels and business, um,
- 44:40Speaker 1: a lot of people go to majority schools and define success.
- 44:44Speaker 1: But in my experience, some of the most successful people
- 44:47Speaker 1: with HBCUs, Right, that's just I'm talking about those that
- 44:52Speaker 1: are high up in corporate America that I come in
- 44:55Speaker 1: contact with, or those of entrepreneurs, they went to HBCU.
- 44:59Speaker 1: And I talk a lot about FAM because that's where
- 45:01Speaker 1: I went with Howard Moore, house Held, and I mean,
- 45:08Speaker 1: you name them. A lot of successful people come out
- 45:11Speaker 1: of HBCUs, and I think a lot of it is
- 45:13Speaker 1: because I just think there's a competitiveness amongst our people
- 45:21Speaker 1: that in the HBCU environment just creates very successful, driven,
- 45:27Speaker 1: gritty entrepreneurs and business people. And I think it also
- 45:30Speaker 1: helps when you look at the fact that Kama Harris,
- 45:33Speaker 1: you know uh has been Vice President elect, is from
- 45:37Speaker 1: HBCU Hollywood. I come from Houston, Texas, so I'm surrounded
- 45:41Speaker 1: by HBCU schools, you know, pre View and m Texas,
- 45:43Speaker 1: Southern Gramlar and Southern you know, going down the line,
- 45:46Speaker 1: Dillard go down go up to Jackson State is twelve
- 45:50Speaker 1: HBCUs in the state of Alabama, which has the most
- 45:53Speaker 1: hbc used in North Carolina. I think that's the second
- 45:56Speaker 1: most at ten, but they're they're based in the southeast
- 45:59Speaker 1: part of the tree. What what invited you to come
- 46:01Speaker 1: to an HBCU. What what attracted you? I should say,
- 46:04Speaker 1: to go to an HBCU. So I went to a
- 46:07Speaker 1: majority of white high school, and I kept trying to
- 46:11Speaker 1: persuade my mother to let me go to the schools
- 46:13Speaker 1: in the city, which where all my friends went and
- 46:17Speaker 1: my girlfriend's, but my mother won't let me do it.
- 46:20Speaker 1: So FAMU In, which is a year before I graduated
- 46:24Speaker 1: high school, had one the Prince Review top ten business
- 46:30Speaker 1: schools in the country, and the president at the time
- 46:35Speaker 1: was coming to the Midwestern cities Detroit, Chicago and really
- 46:40Speaker 1: marketing Family as a place for us for students to
- 46:43Speaker 1: go to college. I found out about it, went to
- 46:46Speaker 1: visit for homecoming. You know how that goes. You know
- 46:51Speaker 1: I went for homecoming once and don't want to go
- 46:53Speaker 1: back home. How was it homecoming? Now home home coming
- 46:57Speaker 1: and a black school is come it okay? Come on
- 47:03Speaker 1: high bus? Tell us tell us about tell us about
- 47:10Speaker 1: a familyes his first, of all, family has always been
- 47:13Speaker 1: known for marching band. Family has always been known for
- 47:17Speaker 1: a successful football program. Okay, and now to my understanding,
- 47:21Speaker 1: they're going to the Squack. They transferring their football program
- 47:24Speaker 1: to the Squack, which is even more incredible because you've
- 47:26Speaker 1: got Dion Sanders down there in the Swacks with Jackson State.
- 47:30Speaker 1: So I look at the Squack has becoming like a
- 47:33Speaker 1: sec version of HPC for the HBCU, a powerhouse where
- 47:38Speaker 1: the top athletes are gonna come and it's gonna put
- 47:40Speaker 1: them on the map. So that's why that's what Family
- 47:43Speaker 1: is about to get into. But from but where I
- 47:45Speaker 1: hear you talk from Jump ro Sean, it's about the academics.
- 47:48Speaker 1: It's about that's what attracted to YouTube. I went to Homecoming.
- 47:51Speaker 1: But but the top business school in the eighty seven
- 47:54Speaker 1: be recognized that it's really what really caught your eye,
- 47:58Speaker 1: caught the eye of your mom. That's right. It was
- 48:01Speaker 1: the School of Business and Industry, which has been acclaimed
- 48:05Speaker 1: as being one of the best business schools UH in
- 48:08Speaker 1: the country. Agnostic to hbc U or otherwise deemed mildly
- 48:14Speaker 1: created the program, and it just so happens that the
- 48:18Speaker 1: year she retired as year I graduated two thousand and three. Right, um.
- 48:23Speaker 1: A lot of success of people came out of that
- 48:25Speaker 1: program and still do. It's a school of business and industry.
- 48:29Speaker 1: The program was so strong that every week we would
- 48:32Speaker 1: have a CEO from a fort five of the company
- 48:35Speaker 1: come and spend a full day with and I think
- 48:38Speaker 1: that experience and there is this program called professional development,
- 48:41Speaker 1: which is all around the soft skills of leadership and
- 48:44Speaker 1: confidence in entrepreneurship because you can be an entrepreneur in
- 48:51Speaker 1: corporate America, right right. You don't have to own your
- 48:54Speaker 1: business be an entrepreneur, but all of those tenants and
- 48:58Speaker 1: in skill sets we learned through that program and and
- 49:03Speaker 1: I think more than anything, it gave us confidence to
- 49:07Speaker 1: be leaders and to speak our mind and to uh
- 49:10Speaker 1: and have confidency to growing something. You know the time
- 49:13Speaker 1: you said something, cause I always tell us to people
- 49:14Speaker 1: always tell this about being entrepreneurs, I said, I said,
- 49:17Speaker 1: A forty our week jaw really is the best training
- 49:20Speaker 1: to be an entrepreneur because you can't accomplish the responsibilities
- 49:23Speaker 1: of a forty all week job, arriving at work on time,
- 49:26Speaker 1: meeting your deadlines, being able to be accountable for the
- 49:29Speaker 1: responsibility to given to you and also walk working outside
- 49:32Speaker 1: of that for the our window, then you won't be
- 49:34Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. That's basically what you're saying when you said, hey,
- 49:37Speaker 1: you could be an entrepreneur working a ford our weak jaw,
- 49:40Speaker 1: because the same responsibilities are built there if you wanted
- 49:43Speaker 1: to come an entrepreneur, and I am I defining that correctly.
- 49:47Speaker 1: That's exactly right, exactly right. You know, it's funny. I
- 49:51Speaker 1: saw the OUs versary young I was actually had fami.
- 49:53Speaker 1: I started like a little Friday sailor shop and at
- 49:57Speaker 1: one point I was in the UH in the mall
- 50:00Speaker 1: and I got into the airport. So I was twenty
- 50:01Speaker 1: two years old. I had a little sandwich shop and
- 50:04Speaker 1: the airport. Um. So that's not easy, Tommy, that's not easy. Now, No,
- 50:09Speaker 1: it's not easy. It's not easy at all. But I
- 50:13Speaker 1: did that. And if I said, this entrepreneurial kind of
- 50:17Speaker 1: spirit if you want to call it that, and my
- 50:18Speaker 1: parents were entrepreneurs, so I had that in my in
- 50:21Speaker 1: my blood. But one of the best de cities I
- 50:24Speaker 1: made as I started another a small healthcare company that
- 50:28Speaker 1: I sold, one that you referenced earlier starting seven. But
- 50:33Speaker 1: the company I sold to decided to buy my company
- 50:37Speaker 1: for stock options and theirs, and so essentially became a
- 50:40Speaker 1: job offer with equity associated. And that was my training ground.
- 50:46Speaker 1: And when I went to work for them, was a
- 50:48Speaker 1: corporate corporate company end up on the New York Stock
- 50:50Speaker 1: Exchange UM called a Creative Health out of Chicago. I
- 50:56Speaker 1: learned how to operate at the highest level of wills
- 51:00Speaker 1: said in corporate America at that moment in time. And
- 51:03Speaker 1: it was from that training that I took that to
- 51:05Speaker 1: my most latest company that I just sold to go
- 51:08Speaker 1: across from shield on how to operate at the highest
- 51:11Speaker 1: motels you know what meant, how to be analytical, how
- 51:14Speaker 1: to in the in the world of big data, how
- 51:17Speaker 1: to identify the data message that actually move the needle,
- 51:21Speaker 1: and then how to create operational rigor around it to
- 51:23Speaker 1: make sure we continue to improve our numbers across the board.
- 51:27Speaker 1: And so when I sold my last company of trusted
- 51:31Speaker 1: in our industry, the average medicaid maniacare company did one
- 51:35Speaker 1: percent profit. Mind I was doing temperacent profit marnd smoking
- 51:40Speaker 1: for but I was smoking because of the skills I
- 51:43Speaker 1: learned work from corporate America. So as you talk about
- 51:45Speaker 1: the soft skills are showing up at word, you know,
- 51:47Speaker 1: coming to early, staying laid and all that kind of
- 51:49Speaker 1: stuff critically important, but then learning how to operate at
- 51:53Speaker 1: the highest level, because when you operate high you have
- 51:56Speaker 1: higher performance and you should have higher profitability. And that's
- 52:00Speaker 1: how you create founder. And that's really what you're saying
- 52:03Speaker 1: right now. You know, It's just the thing that I'm
- 52:05Speaker 1: talking to you, Tommy, is like, first of all, where
- 52:08Speaker 1: did this start? Because, like you said, it's in your
- 52:09Speaker 1: DNA because you're both of your parents with entrepreneur But
- 52:12Speaker 1: when did it? When did that DNA get into your system?
- 52:14Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, When you went, Wow, I
- 52:17Speaker 1: can be I can be a self made man. I
- 52:19Speaker 1: can go out there and do what they do. Is
- 52:21Speaker 1: this It's important because they were like mentors to you.
- 52:24Speaker 1: They were parents, but they also were like mentors to
- 52:26Speaker 1: you as well. Correct. Yeah, I think, um, I think
- 52:29Speaker 1: you aspired to what you're exposed to. And in my
- 52:33Speaker 1: household and my parents friends, there was a lot of entrepreneurship,
- 52:38Speaker 1: So I always expected to own my own business. A
- 52:40Speaker 1: matter of fact, when I was in I'm like the
- 52:42Speaker 1: average entrepreneur. Right when I was in middle school, I
- 52:46Speaker 1: had a psychic hot line. This is remember back when
- 52:50Speaker 1: when you were actually a magazine and you have all
- 52:52Speaker 1: little ads in the back of the magazine, right like
- 52:54Speaker 1: remember Cleo called me. Now I had one. I was
- 52:58Speaker 1: in eighth grade, you know, and so I had that.
- 53:02Speaker 1: I went to family. I had ice cream truck because
- 53:04Speaker 1: to my surprise, you go to Florida and there weren't
- 53:08Speaker 1: many ice cream trucks, right, So I had an ice
- 53:10Speaker 1: cream truck, and so I thought that kind of thing
- 53:12Speaker 1: sold on, Hold on, hold on the topic the ice
- 53:14Speaker 1: cream trull. You know that that's the truck to come
- 53:16Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, you know, stops traffic with kids. Now, yes,
- 53:21Speaker 1: And I talked about how you by you you came
- 53:23Speaker 1: about getting the ice cream truck, and what would the
- 53:25Speaker 1: whole concept been making money? Because like, since all my
- 53:27Speaker 1: profit margin with you, because I understand that's what happened.
- 53:30Speaker 1: So I come to Florida and at many ice ice
- 53:34Speaker 1: cream trucks, which when you're from Detroit and it snows
- 53:37Speaker 1: nine months out the year, you can't understand how place
- 53:41Speaker 1: that's always hot doesn't have ice cream trucks. So but
- 53:45Speaker 1: I was a freshman in college, so I converted I
- 53:49Speaker 1: had a truck. I converted that to an ice cream truck,
- 53:52Speaker 1: and I would play masterpiece ice cream. Man. It's a
- 53:54Speaker 1: little more little, a little more adult ice cream truck
- 53:59Speaker 1: than the average one kids, right, right, right, But then
- 54:02Speaker 1: I learned you gotta have you know that hot I
- 54:05Speaker 1: used to keep the cold and myself was melting and
- 54:07Speaker 1: become a disaster of a business. Right, So how did
- 54:11Speaker 1: we get to healthcare? So we were ice cream the
- 54:14Speaker 1: little little little a little sandwich shop in the airports,
- 54:18Speaker 1: the airport, the healthcare. What shifted you to that? That
- 54:21Speaker 1: that uh, that angle of business because my parents were
- 54:25Speaker 1: in healthcare and all those other businesses are felt reasonable, right,
- 54:29Speaker 1: so there were disasters. But I grew up in healthcare
- 54:36Speaker 1: and I just had conference. I don't know, you know,
- 54:38Speaker 1: I came home to help us. So I graduated from
- 54:40Speaker 1: Family two thousand three with my NBA, and I thought
- 54:44Speaker 1: I was gonna come home and take my family's business
- 54:46Speaker 1: to the next level. And instead I came home and
- 54:50Speaker 1: literally everything was on fire. Once in a year, everything
- 54:53Speaker 1: went in the bankruptcy. So you know, the business went
- 54:57Speaker 1: out of business, the home I grew up and with
- 55:00Speaker 1: the foreclosure, you know, everything is repossessed. It was like
- 55:03Speaker 1: a disaster of of a story. Um, which I think
- 55:08Speaker 1: it's hard for most black entrepreneurs and people is we're
- 55:11Speaker 1: always starting over. And I think we're starting over because
- 55:14Speaker 1: there's a lack of true business guidance and mentorship. Because
- 55:20Speaker 1: even my parents who that success of business through the
- 55:22Speaker 1: nineties lost everything by the early two thousand's. And but
- 55:27Speaker 1: because I grew up in entrepreneurship, you know, and everything
- 55:30Speaker 1: went under, I thought I had a confect like gonna
- 55:32Speaker 1: start my own company and kind of you know, rebuild
- 55:35Speaker 1: the family. Uh business. It didn't go exactly like that,
- 55:40Speaker 1: but it ended up getting there through its own path. Win.
- 55:44Speaker 1: Now did you did your parents participate and uh and
- 55:47Speaker 1: structuring and other business and on the board of your business?
- 55:50Speaker 1: How are they How are they tied to enny of
- 55:51Speaker 1: your business dealers today? You know it's interesting, man. So
- 55:56Speaker 1: my mother and stepfather were together through the nineties, and uh,
- 56:01Speaker 1: he was always an entrepreneur who got my mother an entrepreneurship.
- 56:04Speaker 1: She was a master in public health, so she just
- 56:06Speaker 1: want to give people access to healthcare, but didn't really
- 56:08Speaker 1: have a business experience, so that relationship married them too
- 56:12Speaker 1: together because he didn't finish high school, you know, or
- 56:15Speaker 1: certainly didn't go to college, but he had the entrepreneurial
- 56:19Speaker 1: get up and go. My mother's um education and academically
- 56:24Speaker 1: as a person was a good marriage. Um. But when
- 56:30Speaker 1: they so what happened in two thousand and four, so
- 56:33Speaker 1: you have to got out of school and everything completely
- 56:35Speaker 1: went into the ground. I was in the kitchen of
- 56:38Speaker 1: the house and winter foreclosure, and I was hugging my
- 56:40Speaker 1: mother and stepfather, and I said, I'm gonna pull us
- 56:43Speaker 1: through this, and my stepfather kind of went his own direction.
- 56:46Speaker 1: You know, I think he got real hot in the kitchen.
- 56:49Speaker 1: He decided to uh to leave, kind of advocated the throne,
- 56:54Speaker 1: if you will. Uh. So, my mother and I when
- 56:57Speaker 1: I started mind and she helped me out, and then
- 56:59Speaker 1: this business is sold in DC, she was around to
- 57:01Speaker 1: help me do it. So she's always been my secret weather,
- 57:04Speaker 1: right right. You know it's really because we're all talked
- 57:08Speaker 1: about support, because somebody has to support you, and that
- 57:11Speaker 1: somebody has to be there because you know, you can't
- 57:13Speaker 1: be the smartest person in the room. We know that,
- 57:15Speaker 1: but you also have to have somebody that's smarter than
- 57:17Speaker 1: you that you can trust and also have been there,
- 57:20Speaker 1: done that type of personality, and somebody that you know
- 57:23Speaker 1: can you know, I guess you can respond to this
- 57:26Speaker 1: time may because being a leader. The worst part about
- 57:29Speaker 1: being a leader you can't show weakness. And then you
- 57:31Speaker 1: have to pick and choose who you show weakness too,
- 57:34Speaker 1: because your weakness to the to the wrong people, then
- 57:36Speaker 1: they can take it as a sign of failure or
- 57:38Speaker 1: a sign of doubts or lack of confidence. So what
- 57:42Speaker 1: was that for you as a leader? A guy who's
- 57:44Speaker 1: building companies selling companies in a very white world. Health
- 57:48Speaker 1: health care is white. Let's teach real about it, but
- 57:51Speaker 1: it also impacts the minority community strongly. And we're gonna
- 57:53Speaker 1: get to the jet docum minute, but talk about the
- 57:56Speaker 1: support system of being a leader and being able to
- 58:00Speaker 1: you know, build your brand, but also being able to
- 58:03Speaker 1: have a place to relax and take a deep breath,
- 58:05Speaker 1: a place to pause. Yeah, you know, I agree with
- 58:10Speaker 1: what you're saying. I think. Uh, when you're on entrepreneurial
- 58:14Speaker 1: side of business, you quickly learned the most important thing
- 58:18Speaker 1: you have to do is to make payroll. Yes, and
- 58:21Speaker 1: so there's always the pressures of making payroll. They come
- 58:25Speaker 1: around seem like, uh, you know, too quickly. But you
- 58:29Speaker 1: can never show that you're sweating to make payroll because
- 58:34Speaker 1: it's you lose that confidence in your people. Then it's
- 58:37Speaker 1: like the Titanic. You know, you're not gonna have folks
- 58:39Speaker 1: fully committed because they were looking for something that's more stable. Yes, um,
- 58:45Speaker 1: but that aside, I think you have to fake until
- 58:48Speaker 1: you make it, you know. I think you just gotta
- 58:51Speaker 1: keep pushing and keep showing face, keep having that that
- 58:54Speaker 1: faith that comes from from within to keep going and
- 58:58Speaker 1: had a confidence that you're gonna make it of what
- 59:00Speaker 1: you just get up every day and go forward. When
- 59:03Speaker 1: you see like this, man I'm in I'm in my
- 59:06Speaker 1: third health care company, my tenth business. I've had a
- 59:09Speaker 1: thousand and I've had two successful companies in healthcare. One
- 59:13Speaker 1: I created, you know, sold it. The company I sold
- 59:15Speaker 1: to in publican me a million three when I was
- 59:17Speaker 1: thirty years old. Then I started this one from scratch
- 59:20Speaker 1: out of nothing, and I just sold it for nine
- 59:22Speaker 1: figures UM six and a half years later. And I'm
- 59:27Speaker 1: in another company, jet Dot, which is telehealth. Do you
- 59:29Speaker 1: see a doctor in his cell phone, twenty bucks for
- 59:32Speaker 1: urgent care business virtually and um, you know you have
- 59:37Speaker 1: access to pharmacies all across the country eight five off
- 59:40Speaker 1: your medications. Every CBS Walk brings war market, you name it.
- 59:43Speaker 1: And I'm struggling right now. It's my third one and
- 59:46Speaker 1: I thought it's gonna be easy. But I'm back at it,
- 59:49Speaker 1: back in the Nicks Weaton every day questioning why am
- 59:51Speaker 1: I touring this. I don't have to do it. I
- 59:54Speaker 1: got a team depending on me. So you know, I
- 59:57Speaker 1: think I did have it in you. And if you
- 59:59Speaker 1: really have, then then you'll be doing it. If you
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: really don't, then lady, don't give up the sticks. Right.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: But you know the thing about it, when one thinks
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: about telehealth, you know, which is it's being able to
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: talk to a doctor. Because we didn't think about that
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: prior to COVID ninteen. COVID ninteen has brought that to Okay,
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: this is the way to go see your doctor now.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: I know at the end of the year, I had
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: that option. Do you want to talk to your doctor
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: via zoo or do you want to come in? That's
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: all I want to come in. You know, I would
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: not have said that in May. Now now December, I said,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: I want to come in. I'm a lot more comfortable
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: with the environment. How to take care of yourself going
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: out in public in this new COVID world that we
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: live in. Now, tell her health is jet doctor explained,
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: Everybody is a telehealth platform provided an immediate virtual urgent
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: care visits, plus access to up the prescriptions and pharmacists
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: across the country. Like you said, Walgreen's TVs for either
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: twenty dollars pervision or ten dollars pervision. Now in the
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: minority community, that twenty and that team my man's is priceless,
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: like they said, you know, how did that come about?
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: And who or what celebrities involved? And are you using
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: celebrities or brands to get your product recognition out there? Yeah,
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: So this time last year I was at the closing
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: stages of selling Trusted. But a year before that, I
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: wrote a book on health care policy and three things
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: that could be done to change the trajectory of the
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: cross health care system for this country going forward. And
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: I met with the number one regulator for healthcare in
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: this country and sharing with him my book and the
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: three policies, and he told me that it would take
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: an active legislation to implement the most important because it
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: was enacted into the Afordable Care Act, So that would
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: be impossible or highly improbable. And so but through the research,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: writing a book, and the fact that as a company
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: we were doing two million dollars in revenue, I paid
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: over one million claims um that the biggest cause of
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: the rising cost of health care and the the bad
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: statistics of the quality of health care is because of
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: lack of convenient access to healthcare. Correct. And that's up
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: and down the range of economic situation. So somebody who's
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: lower income will medicaid all the way up to having
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: concierge medicine for commercial insurance. People wait too late to
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: get diagnosed and to do something about their issue because
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: it's inconvenient to go. You're going to emerge the room.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: No one wants goes to emerge room. You gotta to
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: get a doctor. Woman takes to three weeks um. The
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: health consystem is just a pain in the backside. But
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: to telehealth creates creates a lot more convenient access for me.
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: So I decided, Okay, I'm gonna make it super convenient.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: But then to get people to do it, have to
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: make it affordable, so I'm gonna do it as cheap
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: as possible. So the average tell health visit now is
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: eighty bucks to visit. Ours is twenty bucks a visit.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: If you want to do a monthly you can pay
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: ten bucks a month for your entire family in your
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: household have access to telehealth. Those are doctor visits twenty
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: seven and the pharmacy benefits included where you get a
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: five shop to cost of medication. That's less ten bucks
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: a month. So my vision is make it create admits
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: access because it makes it easier through using your cell
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: phone you see doctor one twos, and then to make
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: it super affordable by making it, you know, lesson ten
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: bucks a month or twenty bucks a visit. And when
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: I started to do this, it's a pre COVID, right,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: And at that moment in time, the projection was at
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: two thousand twenty would have eight hundred thousand telehealth visits
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: and less than four percent of people knew what it
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: was us. A month later, COVID hit in March, and
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: now it's the highest thing in healthcare technology. And instead
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: of eight hundred thousand, tell Health business in two thousand
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: twenty and there have been over one billion in two
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: thousand twenty, so the space has gotten from when I
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: started it was a white space needing no one's doing it.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: I can kind of just you know, paint on the
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: canvas to being super competitive and me having to figure
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: out and this incredibly competitive market, now how do I
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: stand out? How do I get eyeballs and attention to something?
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: And the celebrity um factor came to play. We launched
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: in Florida and on the celebrity side, particularly from our community.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: Rick Ross stands out of someone who's from Miami represents
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: Florida in a major way, so reached out to his camp.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: He researched me to figure out who was behind it
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: um Research Telehealth, and decided he actually want to be
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: a part of it as a real partner. And so
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: he and I became partners about six weeks ago and
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: he's been a wonderful partner ever since. So Rick Ross
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: is involved. We also last week brought aboard Dr Jackie
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: from Mary to Medicine, which is a show on Bravo Positions.
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: So she's now on the team at Jet Doctor and
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: we're just putting together momentum to get the word out
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: now here's a great thing the doctor visits that you're
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: saying there twenty dollars and ten dollars or that's tied
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: to the pharmacist. There's twenty bucks um per visit or
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: if you pay ten bucks a month or on limiting. Okay,
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: cool now, because I'm just I recently went to Emory
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: and I have Humana, and my doctor visit was like
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: forty dollars and and so I'm just letting everybody know
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: an example of and believe me, I don't play ten
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: dollars per month for humanity. Okay, that's gonna be real
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: about that, Okay. And so so so I'm playing at
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: forty dollars on top of what I paid Humana, all right,
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: So with the rate that I'm paying, I should be
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: getting it for free and so and so you're saying
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: ten dollars promot for ts perfessive. That right? My closest
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: statement to you and jet Doc and Tommy. How can
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: ru Sean mccow my platform money making conversations? I have
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: named two thousand subscribers to my fan club list, I
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: got all the roughly a million social media followers. You know,
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: how could I? How would you come to me. I'm
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: not trying to be a partner in your brand. I
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: developed this platform to be able to take entrepreneurs like
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: you and make you you're the stars, and but also
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: get your platform. You say, hey man, can you post
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: this phone me? Can you post this from me? Because
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: I want to be an asset to you, because that's
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: why I believe that Black entrepreneurship is the key to
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: this country going to the next level. And we also
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: need to understand that we have value. Sometimes we are
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: under value because they want to show the negative time
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: side of being an African American mail or email and
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: so that's why promote HBC used the way I've promote
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: with HBCUs. So how can with jet document a strong
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: teller help is a very competitive field. It wasn't competitive
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: COVID hit Now everybody wants to use it. So now
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: how do you slice that line? How can money making
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: Conversation help you? Well, what I want to do is
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: we'll offer we'll create a promo code for money Making
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: Conversations UM where everyone who puts in your promo code,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: they'll get their first vision for free. Okay, wait, okay,
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: this we didn't even about that. I would just be
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: honest you I'm not I'm not trying to look for
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: a discount because you're trying to build a brain. I'm
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: just saying, you know, I appreciate that rushing about. I'm
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: also saying I want people to try it right, you know.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: And and the thing for me is, uh, just been
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: open with you. My last exit we did well, yes,
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: And so I'm not in a rush to make money.
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: I am self financing it, which you know get uncomfortable
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: with times. But I'm not in the rush. What I
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: wanna do is get our people in the healthcare faster.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: And the way to do it is make it super
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: convenient and super affordable. So I just when people try
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: and and I don't care what it costs, you know. Um,
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: I like people just trying to get used to it because,
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: like my eyes, she passed away last year. Last year
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: is a real situation. I got, man, give you a
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: thousand of these, but this one you're you know, you
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: have empathy for it. So very sophisticated woman in attorney
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: for forty years. Um uh, you know ran every day
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: five miles a day. You just catch a running around
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: upon the park in Detroit. Super successful, stylish fashion East,
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: the best conversations, you know, wine kind of store, just
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: an amazing woman. And so she felt a pain in
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: her back and she thought from running, so she ignoredered
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: for a few weeks. Then after a few weeks she
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: decided maybe she just needed a massage, you know, So
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: she got a massage, and then a few weeks later
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: it still didn't go away. So she finally caught her doctor,
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: and then her doctor said, maybe just taking the rest,
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: don't run, or do you know all your your robots
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: take off. A couple of weeks, she did that, and
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: the pain was still there. So she finally decided to
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: go to the emergency room and come to find out,
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: after imaging was done, she was like a stage four
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: and then she died five months later, and it was
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: it was blessed to live five months. So what things
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: have been different if she had went to doctor the
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: first time? Probably now when she went to the doctor
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: instead of just doing them assize, if she could just
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: do a quick tell health visit, just to talk to
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: a doctor, probably and the doctor may have referred her
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: to go see go to emergency room, gonna go get
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: some imaging done, and it would have been more convenient
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: to then you know you gotta go wait two weeks,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: get in front of a doctor, going a way to room,
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: parked the car, you know, all the inconvenience of it
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: versus just making easy and so well, I wanna tell
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: you this, Tommy. I'm a cancer survivor, Thyrod cancer survivor,
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: and I survived it by going to a doctor and
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: uh and getting the blood test. And so I know
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: what what you're saying is truth, you know. And it
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: was funny because my the doctor I do my annual
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: visit with, he missed it. And in December, my dentists
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: missed it because Thyrod's up here and so and so
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: my blood the person I went to through my blood example,
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: she said, can I just touch around your your your
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: throat area? And she said, could I do a biopsy?
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: And that's why if I did. If she didn't do that,
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: I would have went another year. And so no telling
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: what that year. That's what you're saying right there. That year,
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: I might not be on the phone right I might
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: not be doing this interview right now because cancer would
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: have I've been ravaging my system for an additional ten
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: months and I may have, like you said, uh, my
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: neck is sore, maybe from lifting weights or maybe I've
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: just slept with a crook in my neck. That's why
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: it's important to get these uh, these these opportunities. That's
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: why I wanted to get you on the show to
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: talk about jet Doc. I know that black people have
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: cell phones, and black people need to understand the value
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: of cell phones is not just making phone calls, taking
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: pictures and texting, is financial literacy comes out of their phone.
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: And now healthcare can come out of the phone by
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: the form of the jet dot and we need to
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: understand that. And so my, my, my, My commitment to
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: you and jet Doc is that I want to help
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: promote it on my social media. I want to feature
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: you on my Motivational Mondays, talk about what you're doing
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: as a brand and your commitment to lower healthcare and
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: Twitter dollars per visit ten dollars per month through jet
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: doc and it's all about you, my man, your HBCU grad.
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: I'm proud to bring on this show and talk to
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: and your commitment to just change your lives. Like I said,
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: this is self financially self sponsor financially by you. But
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: we don't turn that around, so it could all be
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: good entrepreneurship, healthcare industry, jet doc. Thank you for coming
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: on the show. Tom, thank you brother, thanks for having me,
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: and look forward to being on your show again sometimes
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: oh you well, you believe me right. One thing about me, man,
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: I wanted to bring on the show. I know it's
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: a family show we're putting together, but it's just the
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: first of the year, and one time, I know, think
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: about the first of the year, people tend to listen
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: about their health. They tend to listen about their money
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: because they're putting those resolutions. So I want to use
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: this as an inspiration to say jet doc. Jet doc
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: is a form of a resolution for your health care
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: as a reason, form of resolution for your health care
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: that you should use and sign up for a register.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: That's my mentality because I'm a marketer and so so ah,
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: they're listening different in January, then they listen to June. Okay,
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You could ask any lifetime
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: fits that, right, And so so I know that they're
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: having you on the show, getting this air and then
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: we're getting together, putting some stuff on my social media,
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: putting some stuff in my newsletter. H having you back
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: on the show a couple of times a year, different periods,
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: just to let everybody know the progress of jet Doc
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: is still out there. Let's let's build it and let
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: that little that little crowd a few let's start, let's
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: start put creating a scene, a jet Doc scene for
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: you man, and let's keep winning. Brother. Now I want again,
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: I want to take you. Thank you for I know
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: you busy uh down in Florida, Fort Lauderdale. Thank you
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: for coming on the show and finding a place to
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: sit down so we can talk. Hey, I made it happy.
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: It took me a minute, but that ship I'd just
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: stick with it. Thank you. I appreciate you, Tommic, thank
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: you for coming on my name. Thank you. And we're
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- 1:14:01Speaker 1: but looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is
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- 1:15:27Speaker 1: My next guest is Dante Simpson. He's the co filder
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: and CEO of Eats bat tv, a premium e sports
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: gaming contest agency, content agency and studio seamlessly integrating audience
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: into cultural conversations. Each bat TV is a collaboration made
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: up the world's most recognizable production studios led by Ridley
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: Scott Creative Group and pr G. He He also oversees
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: the rapid growth and the expansion of the organization as
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: well as provide consult consultation to the company's global perspective.
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: His work experience global gaming interests, branding entities, high profile
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: in florences are that's me both on content, technical production
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: and campaign matters. Please work for the money making conversation.
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: Mr East Bad Tv himself, Dote Sampson, Hey Dante, thank
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: you so much. For having me. Wow, that sounded like
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: a lot. Maybe sound a little special there something when
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: you do when you get to Ridley Scott, you kind
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: of slow down right there. You know you gotta slow
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: down we get to Ridley Scott. I'm just gonna let
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: you know that. Now, slow down on Ridley Scott because
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: people need to know your relationships from a production standpoint
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: and also from a creative creative standpoint before we get
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: to really Scott. Tell everybody what East or East Bat is. Sure,
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: um East bat is. Come by with two different businesses.
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: We have a licensed side of business. I want you
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: to think of Getty Images. We license out photos. So
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: if you watch somebody, if you watch Lebron do an
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: amazing dunk, for example for the Lakers, and somebody captures
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: that photo and you see it in Sports Illustrated or
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: on ESPN, that's something that for example Getty or Associated Crestment, right,
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: you do that exact same thing in the video game industry.
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: So we are the only of our type that concentrates
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: on licensed content. On the license side of business, I
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: have the pleasure of heading up TV UM so TV
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: does more than just that transactional business. We are actually
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: the home of the creative. UM, so premium content. I
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: give you an example of what that means and I'll
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: just kind of toss out something for you really quick. Uh.
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: We we recently did the free Fire advertisement UM internationally
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: with Cristiano Ronaldo. Uh. You know, we did the Cyberpunk
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: ad campaign with Keanu Reeves. Some of these things that
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: we consider to be premium assets. UM. We are that space,
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: so not only commercial but content as well, uh, as
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: well as social. So we were partnered with the largest
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: social platform, which is Movers and Shakers. So we tap
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: into multiple verticals, um for the casual gamer as well
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: as for the hardcore gamer, and that is e spat TV.
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: And now now are you talking about the the Kiano
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: Reads commercial that I'm seeing regular running regular on TV
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: right now? That would be it. Absolutely, that's for Cyberpunk
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: seventies seven. Uh. So we we received the call, uh
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: they wanted to tap into our creatives for that campaign,
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: and we were so happy to step in and assist
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: with that. So, yes, I'm every time that commercial comes on.
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: It catches my attention every time every time it comes on.
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: That's why I knew where it is every time it
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: comes on. It captures my attention. It's a great commercial.
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: Thank you so much, thank you. And we always say,
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: and I mean this, this can apply to any culture
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: that you're attached to. The key to successful content, the
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: key to successful commercials is actually tapping into folks who
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: not only research the industries but actually live in them.
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: Um and and that's that's who we are. We we
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: are we're gamers. We we we played the game and
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: we tell the story of So I'm glad to hear that.
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: Thank you so much for well, you know, it's really
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: interesting Dante when you don't want to stay on Kiano
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: read because he's almost like had a career, especially with Matrix,
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: you know, where he's almost played like he's been a
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: video game. You know, he's almost been a person that
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: there's always his career has been transitioning and building time,
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: not a series he has now where he's a he's
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: an assassin that's kind of like bending time and bending reality.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: And also he's constantly fighting like a video game, you know.
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: So that's why that's what I'm saying is that he
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: was a perfect charge because his brand, I think I
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: have to say it's video game related from a standpoint
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: of his career because if you watch any of his actions,
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: always action packed. And so every time that commercial comes on,
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: I go, I'm thinking it's you know, I'm listening, and
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: it holds me through the entire cycle of the commercial.
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: And even though I know after that I realize that's
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: that commercial, it's still entertaining enough to capture me to
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: the end. So congratulations on that man. Thank thank you
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: so much. And he's really built. I mean, we remember
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: him when he started with Speed Sandra Buck and you know,
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: you kind of follow his career through his Matrix and
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: you know, just the cult following that I had with
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: John Wicks and all of these episode series of of that.
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: You know that that was a cult film as well.
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: Like you said, his career has really transitioned to being
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: the voice of you know, the culture, subculture from that perspective,
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: and like you said, it's it's an ongoing video game.
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: And absolutely, you know, let say, you know all three
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: John Wicks, I've seen all three of them. I don't
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: know how at his age, especially in the third one
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: he's fighting that much because he's actually doing all of
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: the fight scenes, okay, and so and plus he just
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: came out he was also in that last year he
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: was offering that, Uh, in the Toss Story movie, we
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: had a really really engaging character. So you're getting a
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: guy that you know, well, you know, we we we
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: create these relationships. But I don't think of anybody. You know,
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: It's a lot of great people out there. Kevin Hart's
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: out there. You know, you have a Rod Johnson's out there.
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: But he is perfect for what you're doing because he
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: isn't an action figure in that world of incredible you know,
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: action engagement. He is actually to me, he's one of
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: these guys way you can actually take his movie series
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: and make it into a video game. He's that guy.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: But guy so eachs fat TV is hit a home
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: run with him. Now let's go over to another guy
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: that captured my attention in the intro, Ridley Scot talk
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: to us about that. Yes, absolutely, Um, Ridley is amazing. Um.
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: A lot of folks may know historically who really is,
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: starting in nineteen seventy seven with his film Aliens Um
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: and going straight through films that we love like American
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: Gangster Withnzel Washington and you know, the Martian and and
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: and different things. You know, even going back now to
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: the eighties with Alma Louise and things that he's done.
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: You know, folks can really have a passion to And
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: one of the things that caught my attention is we
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: were building this collective. Was not only the work that
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: he's done that's on the silver screen, that's that really,
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: in my opinion, has him on the mount rushmore of
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: directors in Hotwood. But it's actually the stuff that we
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: don't know. And I'm gonna you know, ask your audience.
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: You know, if you guys are at a computer, you're
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: put up on your phone, please go to Ridley Scott
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: dot com and familiarize with yourself with some of the
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: stuff that he's done. As I spoke to speak to
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: folks from my culture, you know, people of of color
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: like myself, I say, listen, did you know that he
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: was behind Beyonce and you know a lot of the
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: work with black is King. Did you know that he's
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: worked with Berner Boyd? Did you know that he's worked
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: with Childish Gambino? And people are like, oh, absolutely not.
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: I never would imagine. And then they go and they
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: start to see, you know, the work that he's done,
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: you know, supporting Aba dvern A and different people who
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: come from a culture that is like mine that you
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: would not necessarily associate Ridley with. So one of the
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: things that I know that we just came, you know,
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: from talking about Keanu Reeves, I would apply that to
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: Ridley as well. And that's somebody who may have started
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: their their career in a specific place, but it's so
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: multi talented that they are transitional in other spaces that
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: quite frankly, many people aren't aware of UM. And that's
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: something that really caught my attention with him and I
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: I always tell you know, their team. To me, they're
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: the convergence of content, fandom and creativity and and they
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: do all of the above. And when you take a
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: look at what they've done in the live performance space
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift, and I could go on and on
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: naming a listers that they've worked with UM that we
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: would never really associate or imagine Ridley Scott from the
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: UK that's done these you know, blockbuster films. UM has
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: actually been a part of that's been supporting our culture
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: for quite some time. So he was just such a
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: natural fit UM as somebody that understood the world with
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: offices around the world, UM and truly speaking to different
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: cultures as a parallel, so nicely with gaming um and
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: obviously gaming being one of the one of what I
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: considered the three universal languages. So you know, you know,
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: like I said, his his career. You know, Glad Aider
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: Who just one of those. It was one of those movies.
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: I'm telling I can if Gladia comes on, I'm watching
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: the end. I don't care, I don't turn down, I
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: don't care where I'm at. I'm gonna watch the end
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: of Glad is that type of work and Aliens to
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: which I consider that that that the as far as
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: sci fi movies for female leads taking the dominant role,
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: Aliens too incredible. So he's always had a history of
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: putting women out front and allowing them to lead and
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: be a dominant figure. You know, so many projects he's
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: done with Denzel Washington, you know, A Man on Fire
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: another movie, So I gotta watch the end of that movie.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: And so so with with that type of work, are
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: you were you I'm not gonna use this, We'll be honest.
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: Were you intimidated by the process of being in business
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: with somebody like that? How did you take it from
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: h I got it, But then you set back and go, wow, Okay,
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: I gotta step my game up. I gotta make sure
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: all my teas across my eyes. And how did you
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: take that whole positioning with your brand? I'll tell you
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: the beauty of it. And this is what I say
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: to folks all the time. Look to become very strong
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: or a leader or an expert in your space. And
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: if you align properly with the right space, the so
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: may normally intimidate others actually become very supportive, almost as
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: a fan or support of what you do and deep
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: you as an expert in spaces that they may not.
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: And although you may be pitching them to be a
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: part of what you're doing, subconsciously they're actually pitching you
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: to select them to be a part of what you're doing.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: So there was an interesting dance that went on in
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: the relationship where it was undoubtedly he has a brand
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: to um. You know that that is to be respected,
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: but from his perspective is to be protected. Um. But
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: at the same time he understands the future of where
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: content is going. I say the folks all the time,
- 1:25:56Speaker 1: we may have grown up on Blockbuster, but our kids
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: won't or our grandkids won't. You know, we may have
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: grown up on you know, uh, driving theaters, but you
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: know that went away, um in in a substantial way,
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: although there are some left, and it still went away
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: in a substantial way. Being able to understand the future
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: and aligned with the future was something that he was
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: savvy enough to identify and recognize, and it actually did
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: not make it such a dawning conversation. They really were
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: more so impressed with our knowledge of the space and
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: our ability to identify and stay ahead of the curve. Okay,
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: you know the beauty of having brands come to you
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: name recognition brand. You know, we're talking household names in
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: the industry. It also talent like Travis Scott, you know
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: out of Houston, Texas, explained the relationship with Fortnite and
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: how that plays a major role in your brand each
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: bad TV. Yeah. Absolutely, um. I always feel like we're
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: living through a pandemic. We're living through a time that hopefully,
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: UM as a society, we won't have to live through again.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: But they always say during these challenging times, opportunities are
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: born and those who find success actually are able to
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: pivot and aligned with those opportunities. So one of the
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: brands that I say, we're actually you know, we we've
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: always heard, you know, stay ready, so you don't have
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: to get ready. One of the brands that that I say,
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: you know, during this time just so happened to be
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: Ready and it was so great how they aligned. Was Uber.
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: If if you were in California, if you were in
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: New York or any any other major cities around the
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: country during the height of the pandemic, you may have
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: noticed that there were no cars on the road. Um,
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: you know, so Uber as a business, I'm sure it
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: took a tremendous hit, but simultaneously you had Uber eats,
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: and and Uber Eats was actually keeping a lot of
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: restaurants in the restaurant industry in business. They had a
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: subset business that was actually able to skyrocket during a
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: pivotal time when their core business may not have been
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: able to. Now with that being sped, you asked me
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: about Travis. We haven't seen tours in twenty money. Um,
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what holds for us. But you know,
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: Travis was smart enough to identify, Hey, you know, there
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: is an opportunity for me to perform to my audience
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: and their home their captive. As a captive audience. Let's
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: identify a way to perform to that audience. Fortnite was
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: the great way. There was another group that's done this
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: tremendously and we'll give a shout out the Swiss Beats
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: and UH in Timberland. They've done it amazingly with Versus,
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: especially the selection of talent that they've had in utilizing
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: iTunes and and and and Instagram. We were able to
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: do this with Fortnite. We were able to work that production.
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: We were able to actually be a part of the
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: creation of that content that those who tuned in were
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: able to see. So, you know a lot of parents
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: heard about it because their their kids were addicted to that,
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: you know, to that ten minutes of content that was created.
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: But we were able to optimize UM and we call
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: it an MTM. We were able to optimize them moment
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: that matters and translate that and transition it into another MTM,
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: which is metrics that matter. Million people tuned into that.
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: The news came out a couple of weeks ago at
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: the time of this recording, UM that Travis made twenty
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: million dollars, you know, off of that performance and the
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: purchases within that performance. So if it created a blueprint
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: for folks to identify to to to appreciate the need
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: um and the opportunity within the gaming community. And since
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: then we've seen little Nozekx do the same thing with Roadblocks.
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: Um he got thirty three million views. Uh, so we're
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: starting to see a transition. When Live Nation is is
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: not doing tours, when a e G is not doing tours,
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, we've got a new player
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: in the game, and that's the gaming community itself and
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: their platforms because of the audiences that they hold. This
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: is a platform that started with boxing, you know, to
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: pay per view, the old school pay per view, and
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: then you elevated the game. Now we're getting into the
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: entertainers from a from a musical standpoint, understanding how they
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: can do this. And we're not talking about driving the
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: theater numbers you know that was really popular. We're talking
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: about twenty seven and thirty three million. How does one
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: make their money on that? They make it through subscriptions,
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: do they may make it for a purview rate? How
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: was he able to make his money? The money took
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: place in the purchases. So a lot of folks don't
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: understand that within the game, you can purchase what's called skins.
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example of a skin purchase.
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: He was selling cactus Jack merch in a virtual space.
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: So if you had a gun and you wanted your
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: gun to be hoo ho ho. Hold, they're not even
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: taking this home. They're not even taking it home. They're
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: not even taking at home. So you're buying a shirt
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: within the virtual space, and it's living on your avatar
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: within the virtual space. Absolutely, and that was the beauty
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: of the relationship and of the relationships between artists and
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: the gaming industry because now there's an opportunity that steps
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: outside of the three sixty relationship with the labels. And
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: you know, that's a whole different conversation that will say
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: for another day of how the labels are monetizing off
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: of folks more than they're monetizing off of themselves. Well,
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: now you've got an opportunity to monetize off of yourself.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: And that's what this proved. So you you know, again,
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: we we we do the math, right, we do the
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: math around here. Um, if if if Travis would have
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: would have sold out of stadium at forty thou people,
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: and if he would have done a tour of a
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: hundred stops at forty people, he would have only been
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: in front of four million people million in four days.
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: And he's very tired, by the way, he's very tired,
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: and there's light and there's lodging, and he never left,
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: you know, they never left the convenience of homes. So
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: you know, when you're able to look at it from
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: that perspective and what that means to the artist and
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: kind of the bandwidth that it opens for them to
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: do other things. And we've seen what that led to.
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: I mean, who took advantage of that rashon We we
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: ended up seeing that McDonald's took advantage of that during
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: this time. And next thing you knew he had you know,
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: he had a product on the menu on the McDonald's
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: menu that opened up because he was hot during this time.
- 1:32:19Speaker 1: He was relevant during this time and why not capitalized
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: during this time? Wow. So with that being said, we
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: were talking about the urban perspective, cultural perspective. You know,
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: you know uh nas and uh nas X and uh
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: and uh Travis Scott their cultural phenomenons, you know, they
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: carry us Shorty Mark, Now you have a based in Atlanta,
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: Jordy called Community X and the sports league that's UH
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: geared towards HBCUs and also people of color. How did
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: that relationship come about? I want and and and and
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: I don't know the details of that entire relationship, but
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about the top line of that relationship. First,
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: I want to send my greatest support out to Chris
- 1:33:02Speaker 1: p and I. I always like to any time I'm
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: having a conversation about gaming and the sports mentioned some
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: names along the way, So as we continue to talk,
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: I'll mention some names because I think it's really important
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: for the people of color that have stepped into this
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: space where there's there's only very few, UM, you know,
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: just to kind of acknowledge them as as I have
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk about what we're doing. But I
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: think that it's it's beautiful what Community X is doing
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: UM with the HBCUs, and most importantly UM that they
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: were able to tag in a brand like Twitch to
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: support what they're doing UH, creating tournament opportunities, creating spot
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: scholarship opportunities for students, creating financial beneficial opportunities for students,
- 1:33:46Speaker 1: and also not just stopping there, but working with HBC
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: used to build out their e sports program. So I
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: often say, you know, and I use Little Cross as
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: an example. One of the greatest college with lacrosse players
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: is Jim Brown. And people don't know that. He obviously
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: went on and became one of the greatest running backs
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: in NFL history, but he was one of the greatest
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: lacrosse players at the University of Syracuse. And oddly enough,
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a lot of folks who
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: play lacrosse, and a lot of that is because of
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: just the economics of playing it. That goes along with
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: hockey and that goes along with other sports. Just the economics.
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: There is an economic factor around gaming. You've got to
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: have high speed modems or else you're gonna be slow
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: and delayed in in the game. You've got to have
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: the equipment and so on and so forth. There are,
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: you know, obstacles that exist. And to know that Twitch
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: is willing to step in support our you know, you know,
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: you know, kids of the future, young men and women
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: of the future, is just a beautiful thing. And that's
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: truly a commitment that I appreciate. So I always give
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: a shout out to Community X and what they're doing.
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: UM and what they're building. This is a long term.
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: This isn't a one year deal, So this is a
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: long term relationship that they formed here, and I definitely
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: applaud what they're doing. Well. Your background is music, fashion, sports,
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: How does that shape itself into what you're doing TV. Absolutely,
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: I think that i've I've I've tapped into UM those
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: elements of and I always I always use the word
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: culture right UM and and I think i've I've learned
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: from each one of them the identification of people, process
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: and performance UM. And I think that those things are
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: are what's tapped in. I mean, I was a part
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: of the Tom Ford era of Gucci. That's a legendary era. UM.
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: I was a part of, you know, the moment that
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: Sony b MG overtook Universal as the number one UM
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: music house in business like, those were legendary moments. And
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: as a business development guy and and and and and
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: a leader with both organizations, it was great to be
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: a part of building something UM. And that is the
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: part of this moment that's so intriguing, is that we're
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: building things that don't exist. And I always say to folks,
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: look for the white space of opportunity at ease something
- 1:36:01Speaker 1: that doesn't exist or something that you believe that you
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: can do better, but don't only identify it, and don't
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: only make a plan, but truly make those goals and
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: outperform your own goals. And if you're able to do that,
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: then there is an endless opportunity for you in those spaces.
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: And this was just a natural progression for me from
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: music from fashion. You might start to see and not
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: start to see this has already happening. Gucci has tied
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: in with gaming, Louis Batton is tied in with gaming,
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: Butlinciaga has tied in with gaming. You're seeing fashion come
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: in from a merchandise perspective and they're tapping in. You're
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: seeing music come in and they're tapping in. So these
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: opportunities are less And I just feel like my background,
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: the convergence of everything that I've done, um is actually
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: taking place right now in the gaming space. Well right, well,
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: right now. It's incredible. And uh you articulate the whole
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: subject matter strongly. Uh so, what what so with that
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: being saying the future of what you're trying to do
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: with the goals, you know, because of the fact that
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: my mind is flying you know when you when we're
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: throughout those numbers and we're about to come out of
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: COVID and one there's a there's all parts. What's the
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: new model? What is the new model? You know, who
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: knows Taylor Swift might be knocking on your door because
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: of the fact that this seems so natural to what
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: what these artists who have who understand their brands. These
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: are brand centric people and that's what that that's what
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: you're talking about. People who have are following and understand
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: them and engage with their opportunities to be like that.
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: Do you seek out the talent or the talent seeks
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: you out? I think it's a combination of both. So
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: I think that we do have our eye on certain folks.
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: But the future of what we're doing right now, and
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: I always like to use basketball is the example. Think
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: of the different eras of the NBA. So think of
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: the colorful basketball era is what I call it, that
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: the dr J era, So think of the dr J era,
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: and then there was the rivalry era. I'd like to
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: say that that's magic first bird um and then you
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: throw in the pistons in there as well, and then
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: you have what's the current era, and that's the Michael
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: Jordan Era. The reason that I call it the Michael
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: Jordan era is because he was the first to become
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: his own ecosystem, his own conglomerate. He was his own brand,
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: and that brand transcended North America and became a global brand.
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: That's where we are today with the sports. Part of
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: that is how do you not how do you continue
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: to engage the hardcore gamer but also engaged with the
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: casual gamer um. And that's what our role is going
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: to be in the community. So think of if you
- 1:38:55Speaker 1: are an HBO fan and you watch Hard Knocks UM
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: with you know, the New Our Giants or with the
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons on HBO and how they storytelling. You see
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: what Brian Gumble does on HBO with Real Sport. So
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: you watch Inside the NFL on Showtime. These are shows
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: that actually are just shoulder programming that tell this story
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: to create a higher engagement. Um, Floyd Mayweather did it
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: great with seven series. I love this series. I love
- 1:39:23Speaker 1: those cities outstanding, those I love those many I really missed.
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: Those are really compelling, man, those are really good storytelling. Yes, absolutely,
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: and that's that's the future of this How do you
- 1:39:36Speaker 1: get the casual fan to become a fan of a
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: specific team, a specific organization, a title, or a gamer.
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: And that's what we're doing here, is we're actually, you know,
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: telling the story for the casual while also telling the
- 1:39:49Speaker 1: untold stories for the hardcore gamer. And that's the future
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: of what we're going to be bringing here, Dante. Keep
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: me on your roller decks man, some of aising information,
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: um beautiful stuff that uh that you know you're a
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: hair turner and understand that that's a positive thing to
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: say about somebody who walks in the room and it
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: goes that's a head turner because they want to talk
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: to you, they want to communicate, they want to get
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: inside a visionary. That's where you are, your visionary. Like
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: you said, you know, I always tell people wouldn't luck
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: being at the right place at the right time when
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: those the Guccia thing happened with Tom Ford, that sony
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: me and my thing happened. Now this is happening, all right.
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: I think that's what you do, sir, that's what you do.
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: You're a game changer. Don't change. Okay, Well, thank you,
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: thank you so much. We will be right back with
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: more money making Conversations with your host ras Sean McDonald
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: Hi and ras Sean McDonald the host of Money Making Conversations.
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- 1:41:12Speaker 1: he continues to pay it forward with his summer internship
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: mentor program that he does every year. Okay, I've been
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: doing this for probably the last five years. So I
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: take five students every summer and I put them through
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: kind of like a boot camp and social media. So
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: they they're working on account they have to read books,
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- 1:41:42Speaker 1: Welcome back to money Making Conversations with your host, Ra
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. When I bring guests on my shows about
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: their effort their dreams, some of them start right away,
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: some of them will set back this dream. For these
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: two gentlemen on my call today starting and win the year,
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: my next two guests on the Vore Grievous and Mikale
- 1:42:02Speaker 1: Piles there two HBCU Grass and Fraternity Brothers cafside Fraternity Ink.
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: You know I'm an make a man, but you know
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: I got love for Nat and Level who found it
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: Quickly while attending Clark Atlanta University in Atlanta, Georgia in
- 1:42:16Speaker 1: two ten. The company is a digital platform for wine,
- 1:42:19Speaker 1: beer and spirit delivery that operates out of Miami, Florida,
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: and while and while expanding, they will be in Georgia
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: in early one. Quickly is the first black owned online
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: alcohol marketplace and seeks to make arderent alcohol easy and convenient,
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: while being committed to growing the culture of drinking responsibily.
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: That's always important. Please working with money Making Conversations, the
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: all grievous and Michale Piles Piles that's your name, right,
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: you did, you did, thank you so much so well,
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: you know, grievous. You know I had to work on
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: that name. You know, that was a whole name. So
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: HPCU guys, Atlanta, Georgia and okay, you guys were concerned
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: about liquor delivery, it's talk to me, I thought, well,
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: actually quickly was succeptualized. In eleven it was right. Michael
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: I graduated from Clark Many University, was at a social
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: gathering and everything on fine and well, and the party
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: started to die down because it was no more liquor available.
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: And at the time Michael and myself nobody wanted to
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: make the liquor delivery. And we just thought, what if
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: we had a website that we can go on and
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: have alcohol delivery on every we can call what Theoctor
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: circuit delivered alcohol to us. Again, this is in two
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: thousand eleven, before its times, before uh East Door Dash Atlas.
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: There's a lot of the gality back in two thousand eleven.
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: So thus the party, you know, died down and there
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: was no solution. Fast forward is when it became legal.
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: Party companies like ourselves partner with alcohol store for all
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: sorts of make deliveries, and that's kind of what we
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: started to running. I live out here in Miami. We
- 1:44:05Speaker 1: operate and headquarter in Mighty Beach. We started off as
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: just an acpohol delivery and a team, but as we
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: started to grow, as they started to change and start
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: the partnering with rods Here's company. So now we're a
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: full transparent Alllines is a market place for beer winning spirits.
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: Now you know he did it? All that information up
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: either talking man? Now now somebody coming and talk no
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: cago come out of the back. Whoa man, y'all down?
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: That was all those beautiful women, pau y'all pick the
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: right sitting to kick off this business. Tell micall, tell
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: everybody starting in Miami down there, because when I say
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: beautiful women, you guys both know I am not lying. Listen, listen.
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: You know. The good thing is my eyes are working,
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: so you I can tell you sir, you are not
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: wide whatever. However, just as a cavey, I I am married,
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: you know, so you know I look but don't touch um.
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: Starting in starting the business in Miami was really not
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: only just a blessing for us, but a no brainer
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: business wise. Miami is a multicultural, uh megaplex when it
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: comes to demographics and age groups and people from all
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: different cultures and walks of life. So starting a business
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: in a melting pot like Miami proved to be very,
- 1:45:35Speaker 1: very successful from us, not just from a sales and
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: revenue standpoint, but from a standpoint of business analysis. A
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: large part of what Quickly does is trying to make
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: the world of adult beverages more convenient and accessible for
- 1:45:51Speaker 1: our customers. So being able to work with Hispanic customers
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: and black and brown customers and white customers as well,
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: you know, all coming together in Miami has been a
- 1:46:02Speaker 1: great success for us to get the business up and
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: running and see how our products interacts with people from
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: all different walks of life, and also international as well,
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: because that's the beauty of starting in Miami. You know,
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: you have that Brazilian brace, that Cuban base. You know, it's,
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: like like you said, a melting pot, but also domestically
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: as well as internationally. It's a great spot to go there. Now,
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: you said in the var you were already down there. Yeah,
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: I didn't. Living in my five years now and so
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: to launch it down there. The whole concept of I
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: want to step back for me because I want to
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: go back to twenty level and the HBCU experience, the
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: black fraternity experience, because you know, I remember making Silti
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: fire problem member as your problem members of calf for
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: side and the thing about in you know, HBCUs somehow
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: started getting donations and people corp right corporations start recognizing
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: the need to connect whether diversity. How did that affect you?
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: And I let you start in the vau and definitely, Michael,
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: I wanted to hear your reaction to this as well
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: on hbc US and how it seemed to And it
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: was before we had a vice president elect in Kamala
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: Harris from hard University, so this was this was momentum
- 1:47:17Speaker 1: before her. So talk about in the vault. Yeah, I
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: mean that's the whole beauty of going to HBC For me,
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: it's the relationships that you know now established going to
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: clark Land University and just you know, being a part
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: of cap Alpaca. You know, I met other fraternity brothers
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: across you know, the US, and for us, you know,
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: just being able to expand, expand, you know, our and company,
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: you know as a whole. You know, from hbc US establishment,
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: it's just meant the lock for us. Yeah, you know,
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: um just just to its sound on that as well.
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: Coming from an HBCU background, it really fuels our fire
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: when it comes to starting this business, growing this business,
- 1:48:02Speaker 1: being entrepreneurs and having a platform to really inspire and
- 1:48:05Speaker 1: motivate other folks that look like us, that have similar
- 1:48:09Speaker 1: backgrounds as us. I'm sure you know Sean that you know,
- 1:48:12Speaker 1: the black and brown community in business, especially in the
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: tech world, in the entrepreneurial world, we're majorly underrepresented. And
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: so coming from PARKT Landing University, you know, an HBCU
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: that was founded on the principles of you know, the
- 1:48:28Speaker 1: Christian Church and the ideals of young black men and
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: young Black women having all of the same opportunities as
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: as the as their majority counterparts. You know, it's very
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: important for us to reach back to the ABC community,
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: to the Greek community, to our communities that we grew
- 1:48:47Speaker 1: up in and show them that we can make a
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: way in tech in business, and we've been able to
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: do that. You know, we're extremely proud of the fact
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: that we built quick Lit from the ground up with
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: out any outside or private funding. We're completely self funded
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: up until this point. You know, we have women on
- 1:49:07Speaker 1: our chief executive board. You know we have black people
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: on our chief executive board from an h B c
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: U s and we're just very proud of that because
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: we don't see enough people in the market that look
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: like us, and we want to change that. Well, we
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: will change that. Now nothing of are he's spent time
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: over in China. Now I'm trying to figure out how
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: he go over to Beijing. He was an h B
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: c U beig not and I am it now now
- 1:49:34Speaker 1: you you you're something else. All talk about that experience
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: because I always tell people I remember when I left
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: my job and uh ibm to tell jokes, you know,
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: gonna be the next day Murphy. But it was a
- 1:49:44Speaker 1: lot of unknown to that and because you don't know
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: when you walk going next year, you don't know what.
- 1:49:48Speaker 1: I know, a black man going to China. Why now,
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: I'm very adventurous. I love, you know, trying something new,
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: going to where else I've never been. And uh me,
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: China was was open. Was an open experience for me
- 1:50:04Speaker 1: over my eyes because a lot of things we say,
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: for granted, you know, working uh in the bathroom, eating
- 1:50:10Speaker 1: is things that they don't have. You know, these kids,
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: their kids when I say, fourteen thirteen years old working
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: sixteen hour ships NonStop and scared to speak to people,
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: and you come here in America where you know, we're
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: they're crying about eight hour ships or seven hour ships. Uh.
- 1:50:24Speaker 1: And it's a lot of things just say for granted.
- 1:50:25Speaker 1: So that really shifted my parodigm and just changed my
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: way of looking at life. And UH really allowed me
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: to take a lot of things that we take for
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: granted here in the US and to run with it
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: because you know, not to not to make that same
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: you know, mistake that I may or I have had
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: that same type of energy or I just wanted to
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: carry an energy over from China to UH to America,
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: because like I said, there's a lot of things that
- 1:50:45Speaker 1: we take for granted that we could be you know,
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: using to our full advantage here. When when you say
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: that take for granted, you know, because you know, we
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: take air condition for granted, We take a toilet supposed
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: to be a bathroom supposed to be in your house.
- 1:50:58Speaker 1: You know, you know, what what are some of the things.
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: So if you said there's top three things that we
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: take it that we take for granted the United States
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: that we should appreciate more precise democracy. Uh, like I said, one,
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: like you said, just the bathroom. The way we use
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: the bathroom is totally different, uh you know the comfort
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: And I just said, it's totally different from the China
- 1:51:17Speaker 1: experience of how you use the bathroom. So I use
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: the bathroom here in America. That was just a totally
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: eye opener because, like I said, I'm sanitary. You know,
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: our work life schedule, you know, we have work like
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: balanced sort to say here in America where you know,
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: work eight hour shifts, work four hours a weekend. We think,
- 1:51:30Speaker 1: you know, that's you know, good balance. Whereas in China
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: they're working sixty eight hours shifts like it's the norm,
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: and you know they're not even you know, it's coming
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: up for their breaks like thirty minutes. And I go
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: to some of these you know, some of these places
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: I was going to China. You know, these their customers
- 1:51:42Speaker 1: were here to speak outside of you know, outside of
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: their work because this is what they were stricting, you know,
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: what they had to do. So that kind of just
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: opened my eyes. Is just like man those things that
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: we take for granted to work hours, how we eat, Uh,
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: you know, a shower, Like I said, they're taking showers outside,
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: some of them in certain certain places. Uh. And then
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: also like I said, it's it's crazy because in China
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: is a communist place, so you know, just driving cars,
- 1:52:07Speaker 1: they only can have you know, driving cards six days
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: out of the week. Uh. The seventh day they can't
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: drive because of the population. So it's just a lot
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: of regulations that they have to follow and the bide
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: by that. Here in America week you know obviously got
- 1:52:17Speaker 1: to free. The free didn't do whatever we want. Wow.
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: Now Mr Pas corporate man talking sir. So that's what
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: I love talking to about because you guys, and that's
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: why I feel you guys are going to be successful
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: because I always tell people, you know, when you've got
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: people with so many different unique ideas and you're willing
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: to compromise and combine those ideas. Because I look at
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: the international flavor, I don't getting the vall. He's the
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: international flavor. You know, it's he's both of you guys
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: went to the HBU school and then you come from
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: a corporate perspective. You know that corporate breakdown. Explain how
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: that's being an asset to you and building out the
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: biggers in the quickly. Absolutely absolutely so. You know, I
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: was very fortunate to be able to cut my teeth
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: in the corporate world working for large fortune fifty and
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: fortunate one corporations such as Target at their corporate headquarters. Uh.
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: It allowed me as a young man because I started
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: working in the corporate world right out of college two
- 1:53:15Speaker 1: years old. Um, I got got into it and had
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility as a young man in a
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: very big pond. And what it what it taught me
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: was a few things. In order to make a company
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: work and thrive, You need collaboration, You need teamwork, You
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: need a diverse set of individuals with different backgrounds, just
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: like you said, you know, Navarre bring something totally different
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: to quick Lick than I do. And that goes for
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: all of the people on our executive board and just
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: on our team in general. And another thing that getting
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: my start in the corporate world showed me was just
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: to have polish and professionalism. You know, for us as
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: African American men, really trying to revolutionize an industry that
- 1:53:59Speaker 1: thousand severe years old, like alcohol, we have to work
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: that much harder and be that much more tight and
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: polished and refined in order for people to take us
- 1:54:09Speaker 1: seriously and in order to grow this business and make
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: the connections we need to take this business to the
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: next level. And so getting that experience allowed me to
- 1:54:18Speaker 1: work with people from all different backgrounds, people not just
- 1:54:22Speaker 1: from HBC used like myself, but also the Harvards of
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: the world and the Yales, and that sort of experience
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: was invaluable. And then the last thing that working in
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: corporate showed me Rushan was that working in the corporate
- 1:54:36Speaker 1: world was great as a young man, but in order
- 1:54:40Speaker 1: to truly establish generational wealth, which is me and of
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: ours goal in life, to have a legacy to leave
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: to our family and our kids in our community, you
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: need to branch out on your own and take ownership
- 1:54:52Speaker 1: of something. So corporate gave me the background and the polish,
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: but it also gave me the motivation to say, you
- 1:54:58Speaker 1: know what, if I want to get I've been saying
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: it the way and I deserve to be compensated. If
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: I want to build generational wealth, I can't do that
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: working under someone. I gotta get out and bet on
- 1:55:08Speaker 1: myself and grow a business like we did with Quickly.
- 1:55:12Speaker 1: I want to follow up what you just said, Um,
- 1:55:15Speaker 1: COVID eighteen, COVID ninteen hit we saw, you know, the
- 1:55:21Speaker 1: ability to do curve side delivery, online delivery. Have you
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: know Amazon gonna be announcing where they're gonna they're gonna
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: drone in deliveries two people homes probably in late What impact?
- 1:55:34Speaker 1: They said, time is everything. Being able to pivot is everything.
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: The COVID situation with the launch of your delivery of
- 1:55:42Speaker 1: quick Lick, talk about the advantages of that timing to
- 1:55:47Speaker 1: the positive impact on your business. Uh yeah, so really
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: it was divine time. And say say true, I mean
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: we you know, because exceptionalized quickly in two thousand and eleven,
- 1:55:58Speaker 1: it became mount in twenty eight when the pandemic happened,
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: you know hit us all, you know by a story.
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: We had to take a step back. We actually shut
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: down operations for two days and kind of get an
- 1:56:07Speaker 1: understanding of what was going on with COVID where we
- 1:56:09Speaker 1: had to put hand make sure all our delivery drivers
- 1:56:12Speaker 1: have mass and gloves of the time. But after we
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: got a better understanding of the pandemical was going on,
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: and really you know, hit like a light snitch. It
- 1:56:18Speaker 1: became a necessity for all delivery. Especially with everything going on,
- 1:56:22Speaker 1: Customers no longer wanted to, you know, make get up
- 1:56:25Speaker 1: of the house and go to the liquor story to
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: get to the bottom. So now having quickly got an
- 1:56:29Speaker 1: option where you know, they can select the best beer
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: wine expirits with just a click from their website or
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: from their phone. We made that option and really, you know,
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: ran what we had to make some you know maneuvers
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: within our business model. For that's the most part they
- 1:56:43Speaker 1: worked in our favor. That was just divine time and
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: the bus teople putting their head down. And now that
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: when we looked up, you know, it was just the
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: perfect time and for the pandemic that happened for quickly.
- 1:56:53Speaker 1: Now with that being said, okay, when I go to
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: a website that sales lookally, it says click right here.
- 1:56:58Speaker 1: If you're a team click you know identified. So my
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: number one thought is, okay, who do you don't buy
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: in your liquor? That the request in these deliveries? How
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: do you protect yourself? Mr Piles, Yes, sir, so um,
- 1:57:13Speaker 1: that's a great question. And in this business, you know,
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: age verification We call it age gating, meaning you know,
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: if you're not of age to drink, you can't you
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: can't be on our website, you can't get our product.
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: We don't even want to talk to you over the phone.
- 1:57:28Speaker 1: You know, quickly has a huge corporate responsibility to make
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: sure that we are being gatekeepers, um, to make sure
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: that folks of drinking age, not miners of drinking age,
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: have access to our products. So what we do is
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: we have lots of different age gating sets in the
- 1:57:46Speaker 1: process in order to order from us. So as soon
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: as you go to our website or as soon as
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: you go to our app, it's gonna ask you before
- 1:57:54Speaker 1: you can even see the website, are you over twenty
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: one years old? That's the first step. And then and
- 1:58:00Speaker 1: you can you know, once you verify you are, you
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: can go ahead and browse our inventory, see what you
- 1:58:05Speaker 1: like to order, and before you check out, you have
- 1:58:08Speaker 1: to verify again. And then before our delivery drivers give
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: you the bottles, they're gonna check your I D. So
- 1:58:15Speaker 1: we have at least three steps in our age verification
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: process at all times. That's awesome. Now, so I'm about
- 1:58:23Speaker 1: to talk about coming to Atlanta. I gotta go to
- 1:58:25Speaker 1: the single guy here. I'm sorry, sir, you you showed
- 1:58:28Speaker 1: me the ring. So I know this February campaign and
- 1:58:32Speaker 1: got nothing to do with you. That's all the all
- 1:58:38Speaker 1: right there, that's all I thought. That's for a fact
- 1:58:42Speaker 1: it would look to because Atlanta. You know, you guys
- 1:58:45Speaker 1: are coming to uh Atlanta February with a campaign called
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: shoot your Shot. I I it sounds like a lot
- 1:58:51Speaker 1: of fun the campaign and getting eyeballs and getting engagement
- 1:58:55Speaker 1: is always the key to make it happen. Talk about
- 1:58:58Speaker 1: the shoot your Shot campaign. Yeah, So, like I said,
- 1:59:01Speaker 1: we're excited to be extend to uh Atlanta. You know,
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: Mikell and I both went to Clarkland University, so Atlanta's
- 1:59:07Speaker 1: home for us. And we thought of a dope marketing
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: campaign called shoot your Shots. Amount of Time's day. Now
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: it's shoot your shot. It's not just to shoot your shot.
- 1:59:17Speaker 1: You know, you got the girl or the girlfriend and
- 1:59:19Speaker 1: the girls you've been to Mari and there's all shoot
- 1:59:21Speaker 1: your shot at businesses and you know, companies and industries
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: that you probably want to you know, you know, pay
- 1:59:25Speaker 1: way for it getting or get into uh So it's more,
- 1:59:28Speaker 1: it's much more than just shoot your shot for amount
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: of Time's Day. But yeah, it's a campaign that we've
- 1:59:32Speaker 1: running group. We send our emails marketing the last to
- 1:59:36Speaker 1: get the customers engaged. Uh and like I said, we'd
- 1:59:38Speaker 1: love to shoot our shot, you know, in the Atlanta
- 1:59:41Speaker 1: basket and see what transports from me. Oh, it's awesome
- 1:59:44Speaker 1: about there. I'm just gonna let you what they sent
- 1:59:46Speaker 1: me the ball. It's at the top of Februar word
- 1:59:48Speaker 1: Quickly would want to shoot your shot campaign? What you
- 1:59:52Speaker 1: encourage supporters to send their favorite beverage to their crush
- 1:59:55Speaker 1: and all their crush, not business, not cousin their crush
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: and on our Valenttie's Day. Quickly has been operating in
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: South Florida for over a year and we're launch of
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: fishing in Atlanta and February. You know, I'm having fun
- 2:00:09Speaker 1: with you guys, and like I said, I'm just bringing
- 2:00:11Speaker 1: that up and just having more fun. But when I
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: see a good campaign and we know that and then
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: the month of February, especially valortis that you can't find
- 2:00:19Speaker 1: a restaurant. They alsold if you don't have a restaurant
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: on the day of you trying to take your girl out,
- 2:00:24Speaker 1: you gonna stay home with your girl. And now we're
- 2:00:26Speaker 1: being able to realize that putting that campaign out. What
- 2:00:30Speaker 1: can I do for you? I love to be able
- 2:00:32Speaker 1: to put you on my social media or you're putting banners?
- 2:00:34Speaker 1: What marketing techniques are you using not only in nationally
- 2:00:37Speaker 1: because you know, but also in the local Atlanta market
- 2:00:40Speaker 1: that I can help you out with. Oh, that's that's
- 2:00:44Speaker 1: really really great. We would really appreciate that. You know,
- 2:00:46Speaker 1: one thing that we really utilize in order to connect
- 2:00:50Speaker 1: with customers and spread our message far and wide is
- 2:00:53Speaker 1: our social media. So we would encourage you as well
- 2:00:56Speaker 1: as all of your followers of your platform to follow
- 2:01:00Speaker 1: click on Instagram at quick Lick Underscore. We can also
- 2:01:04Speaker 1: be found on Facebook at get Quicklick and look on
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: our website www dot get quicklick dot com. That's www
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: dot get quick lip dot com. We're gonna be doing
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: a very strong media push on our social media platforms,
- 2:01:22Speaker 1: especially Instagram. We're gonna have some creative stories, some fresh content,
- 2:01:26Speaker 1: some interactive content where people can see, you know, recipes
- 2:01:30Speaker 1: and how to engage with our campaigns like shoot your
- 2:01:32Speaker 1: shot and so if you can follow us, you know,
- 2:01:36Speaker 1: repost something that we're doing on our online platform, that
- 2:01:39Speaker 1: would be a huge, huge boom. But you're gonna start
- 2:01:42Speaker 1: to see a lot of great content coming out of
- 2:01:46Speaker 1: the end of this month as we get into February,
- 2:01:48Speaker 1: which is not only the launch of Quicklick in Atlanta,
- 2:01:52Speaker 1: which we're extremely proud and excited for, but also Black
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: History Month. It was it was actually a strategic for
- 2:01:59Speaker 1: us to pick in February because once again, you know,
- 2:02:02Speaker 1: we always want to illuminate the fact that we are
- 2:02:06Speaker 1: a black owned company, you know, operating as a bluetstrap
- 2:02:10Speaker 1: self funded organization and this day and time, and so
- 2:02:14Speaker 1: we want to pay homage to the people like Dr
- 2:02:17Speaker 1: Martin Luther King and to all of the great ancestors.
- 2:02:20Speaker 1: You know that that led the way for us to
- 2:02:23Speaker 1: be able to have a business and a platform like this.
- 2:02:26Speaker 1: What is it important? You know? We know, one man,
- 2:02:30Speaker 1: if you don't understand what each month means, you have
- 2:02:33Speaker 1: you know, you have a Father's Day, got Mother's Day
- 2:02:35Speaker 1: coming up, got Easter to every one of those days
- 2:02:37Speaker 1: in a marketing has to be a tool you used
- 2:02:40Speaker 1: to you know, gain leverage for your brand. You know,
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: you know, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Black music, mom in June.
- 2:02:47Speaker 1: All those days means something. So now, strategically, when you
- 2:02:51Speaker 1: guys are sitting down looking at your calendar, how did
- 2:02:54Speaker 1: y'all look at strategy? Like like I said, like you
- 2:02:57Speaker 1: just told me Black History Month. I just talked to
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: Navarre about the Valati's Day. So real, there's two things
- 2:03:03Speaker 1: going on there. You launched it strategically in black kid
- 2:03:06Speaker 1: your mind, but you're taking advantage of the relationship February
- 2:03:09Speaker 1: is also known as a relationship monk. So how do
- 2:03:11Speaker 1: you look at strategizic moving forward? You got Miami on lock.
- 2:03:15Speaker 1: You're about to move to Atlanta. Old stomping grounds or
- 2:03:19Speaker 1: fraternity brothers are gonna come to your aid or alumni
- 2:03:23Speaker 1: alumni from from that whole Spellman more House and Clark Atlanta.
- 2:03:28Speaker 1: It's gonna come to your aid. What's the what's the
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: future of Quickly in the southeast part of the country.
- 2:03:34Speaker 1: Absolutely that that's a That's a wonderful question, and it
- 2:03:37Speaker 1: was actually you lead right into where I wanted to
- 2:03:40Speaker 1: go with the relationships. One of the biggest differentiators for
- 2:03:44Speaker 1: Quickly versus our competitors is that we are a lifestyle brand.
- 2:03:49Speaker 1: What that means is we go the extra mile to
- 2:03:52Speaker 1: truly connect with our customers and our brand partners and
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: our account partners and a very local and organic way.
- 2:04:01Speaker 1: We don't operate like just a corporate business, even though
- 2:04:05Speaker 1: I have a corporate background, you know, that's not who
- 2:04:08Speaker 1: we are. We came from the HBCU World Clark Atlantic University,
- 2:04:12Speaker 1: where our bands were. You know, you go to homecoming
- 2:04:15Speaker 1: to watch the band, not necessarily the football game, right.
- 2:04:19Speaker 1: We come from the background of having that flavor, that coolness,
- 2:04:22Speaker 1: that slag, and that's how we brand the company as well.
- 2:04:26Speaker 1: So to answer your question, and from a strategic standpoint,
- 2:04:29Speaker 1: we're always looking at how can we transcend just the consumer,
- 2:04:35Speaker 1: the normal corporate consumer interaction and truly differentiate ourselves from
- 2:04:40Speaker 1: our competitors. Well, one of the main ways we do
- 2:04:43Speaker 1: that is by having the shoot your Shot campaigns, which
- 2:04:47Speaker 1: resonate with people whether you're in a relationship or single
- 2:04:51Speaker 1: like my mannvar. You know, we we also look at
- 2:04:54Speaker 1: the calendar, like you said, ro Sean, in every quarter,
- 2:04:57Speaker 1: we're looking at what's going on, you know, super what
- 2:05:00Speaker 1: what are things that can connect quickly on a real
- 2:05:04Speaker 1: visceral level with our customers Because that's the thing about
- 2:05:08Speaker 1: the alcohol industry, and that's why we love it. Alcohol
- 2:05:12Speaker 1: brings people together, whether you're celebrating, whether you're commiserating, you know,
- 2:05:16Speaker 1: whatever you're going through, you can have a libation as
- 2:05:20Speaker 1: long as you're doing it responsibly, and we want to
- 2:05:23Speaker 1: be a connector for that in a in a responsible way.
- 2:05:26Speaker 1: I love because from all quickly is not about color.
- 2:05:30Speaker 1: You know, you know you can every month, you know,
- 2:05:33Speaker 1: uh st Patty's Day. Okay, that's on your that's a
- 2:05:39Speaker 1: great liquor drinking monk okay. And so that's what I
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: love about it. When you look at the diversity and
- 2:05:45Speaker 1: the and the potential explosion of this business, especially COVID,
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: A lot a lot of restrictions, the curb side lifestyle,
- 2:05:53Speaker 1: the touchless delivery, contact delivery, that's people are seeking. Now.
- 2:05:58Speaker 1: I know when I get my car washing, I just
- 2:06:00Speaker 1: drive right on the end. I just hit my credit card.
- 2:06:02Speaker 1: I don't let nobody come inside my car no more.
- 2:06:05Speaker 1: And we know that lifestyle. It's not going to change,
- 2:06:08Speaker 1: you know, with the vaccination raid and even after you
- 2:06:10Speaker 1: get vaccinated, they tell you still should wear a mask.
- 2:06:13Speaker 1: So that means that a lot of procedures are gonna
- 2:06:16Speaker 1: be it's it's I'm just I just want to say congratulations,
- 2:06:19Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of good ideas, the other
- 2:06:22Speaker 1: people tend to get them, and you guys are saying
- 2:06:25Speaker 1: at the cups of a great idea, not just a
- 2:06:27Speaker 1: good idea, a great idea. And I'm just letting you
- 2:06:29Speaker 1: know I developed Money Making Conversations because to me, speaking
- 2:06:33Speaker 1: to YouTube or like you're the stars, you always see
- 2:06:36Speaker 1: your people on the big screen. But you know, you make,
- 2:06:39Speaker 1: you pay taxes, you employ people, you keep this company
- 2:06:42Speaker 1: moving and more important as black men, you make us
- 2:06:46Speaker 1: proud and don't stop even hanging out to China with Noval,
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: you know now. But thank you for coming on Money
- 2:06:56Speaker 1: Making Conversations man. But again, I'm very honest. I have
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- 2:07:33Speaker 1: first one to give you the knuckles sandwich you say, man,
- 2:07:35Speaker 1: thank you, because if we're just sitting over here doing
- 2:07:38Speaker 1: nothing congratulation, you know, we we really appreciate. I just
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: wanted to say, you know, first and foremost, thank you
- 2:07:44Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to speak with us.
- 2:07:47Speaker 1: You know, I have seen your your your videos and
- 2:07:50Speaker 1: heard your podcasts and seeing your reach with folks like
- 2:07:54Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and Stephen A. Smith, and it's just amazing
- 2:07:58Speaker 1: to be in a position to speak to such an
- 2:08:00Speaker 1: accomplished and decorated brother like yourself. So thank you so
- 2:08:03Speaker 1: much for this platform. You know, we're at the point
- 2:08:05Speaker 1: in this company where we're trying to grow this thing big.
- 2:08:08Speaker 1: You know, like I said, we're trying to grow a
- 2:08:10Speaker 1: legacy with quick Lick, and even though we've been self
- 2:08:13Speaker 1: funded to this point, now we are actively and aggressively
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: looking for investor partners to invest in this company because
- 2:08:21Speaker 1: we want to take this thing to the next level,
- 2:08:23Speaker 1: not just Atlanta. We want to go. We want to
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: cover the whole Southeast. We want to get out to
- 2:08:28Speaker 1: the West coast at the end of this year. So
- 2:08:30Speaker 1: we have dreams of grandeur and people like yourself, I
- 2:08:33Speaker 1: can't think enough for giving us a platform to get
- 2:08:36Speaker 1: our business out there to the masses. Thank you, Sol
- 2:08:42Speaker 1: wrap up, I mean Michael wrap up. I mean he's
- 2:08:45Speaker 1: a speaker up from start to finish. But no, like
- 2:08:50Speaker 1: I'm beyond all platform to you know with our company,
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: and like Michael said, we're mostly growing Tampa and I said,
- 2:09:00Speaker 1: we're gonna pre see round looking for funding. So uh
- 2:09:03Speaker 1: if you like, then far more reach us. That are
- 2:09:06Speaker 1: you know with his info Iron Iron Flo Bath get
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- 2:09:13Speaker 1: h k l i Q dot com. Alright, well, I
- 2:09:18Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on the show and
- 2:09:20Speaker 1: give me the opportunity to have fun with you man
- 2:09:21Speaker 1: and talk about to a growing business. And believe me,
- 2:09:24Speaker 1: it's gonna be on fire man. I can't wait to
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