Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Hostage Horror: Families Speak Out as Hamas Plays Mind Games
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- 2:43Speaker 3: The headline is simple. The three partial remains that Hamas
- 2:46Speaker 3: returned to Israel on Friday night do not belong to
- 2:50Speaker 3: any of the hostages still in Gaza. DNA tests conducted
- 2:54Speaker 3: at the Greenberg Institute of Forensic Medicine have concluded. Late
- 2:58Speaker 3: on Friday, the IDF was preparing for the return of
- 3:01Speaker 3: the partial remains of three slain Godza hostages. The Red Cross,
- 3:06Speaker 3: acting as intermediaries, handed over the remains to the Idea
- 3:10Speaker 3: of troops overnight, but Hamas had not specified whose remains
- 3:16Speaker 3: it was handing over. Hamas said in a statement on
- 3:19Speaker 3: Saturday that had initially offered three samples from unidentified bodies
- 3:24Speaker 3: to Israeli authorities for quote testing. In order to not
- 3:28Speaker 3: impede the handover of the bodies, we offered deliver three
- 3:31Speaker 3: samples from a number of unidentified corpses, Hamas stated on telegram,
- 3:37Speaker 3: saying quote Israel refused to accept the sample and demanded
- 3:40Speaker 3: to receive the bodies for examination and we hand them
- 3:43Speaker 3: over to preempt the enemy's claims. Again, Hamas, still referring
- 3:48Speaker 3: to Israel as their enemy. A statement from the International
- 3:52Speaker 3: Committee of the Red Cross said that the organization, acting
- 3:56Speaker 3: as a neutral intermediary, assisted this evening at the request
- 4:00Speaker 3: and with the approval of both parties, and return the
- 4:04Speaker 3: remains of three bodies to Israeli authorities. The identification process
- 4:09Speaker 3: is the responsibility of the revelant authorities in Israel and
- 4:13Speaker 3: will be carried out by then. The reality is these
- 4:16Speaker 3: bodies did not belong to any of the hostages, and
- 4:20Speaker 3: this goes back to what I have been witnessing since
- 4:23Speaker 3: I've been in Israel. This has been an incredible trip,
- 4:26Speaker 3: as I have, for the very first time on my pilgrimage,
- 4:28Speaker 3: been able to see where Jesus walked, see where he
- 4:31Speaker 3: carried the cross for his own death, and to see
- 4:35Speaker 3: exactly what life is like in Israel. There are a
- 4:38Speaker 3: couple things that I want to be clear about. Number One,
- 4:42Speaker 3: on this trip, it has been a spiritual journey for me.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I will never shy away from talking about that. I
- 4:48Speaker 3: will also tell you that if you're thinking about coming
- 4:50Speaker 3: to Israel, now is the time to do it. It
- 4:52Speaker 3: has been incredibly safe, especially in Jerusalem, and I can
- 4:57Speaker 3: tell you that there are so many people that want
- 4:59Speaker 3: to come to Israel and they haven't felt like it
- 5:01Speaker 3: was the right time. After being here, I would feel
- 5:04Speaker 3: incredibly safe bringing my entire family. This ceasefire and the
- 5:09Speaker 3: leadership of Donald Trump to get this peace in the
- 5:13Speaker 3: Middle East and the Abraham Accords is truly historic, but
- 5:16Speaker 3: it's also very real. But there's also another aspect of
- 5:19Speaker 3: this trip that I think is as important to tell
- 5:22Speaker 3: you about, and that is witnessing the torture. Just like
- 5:26Speaker 3: the story I told you about Hamas and the partial
- 5:29Speaker 3: remains Sentomas that they said were the hostages were actually
- 5:33Speaker 3: not at all. What we are witnessing right now is
- 5:37Speaker 3: truly psychological warfare. It's psychological warfare by a terrorist organization.
- 5:41Speaker 3: It still refers to Israel as the enemy in their
- 5:44Speaker 3: own statement on telegram today. What we're also witnessing is
- 5:48Speaker 3: something else. It's extremely concerning and part of the reason
- 5:51Speaker 3: why I decided to take this trip to Israel, and
- 5:54Speaker 3: that is the rise of anti Semitism on the right
- 5:57Speaker 3: in America. I had the privilege this evening of speaking
- 6:02Speaker 3: with and hearing the story of the mother of one
- 6:05Speaker 3: of the hostages that was just returned to Israel. You
- 6:08Speaker 3: may remember the video that went viral of a young
- 6:11Speaker 3: lady on the back of a motorcycle sandwich between two men,
- 6:15Speaker 3: holding her hand out, begging for help from her boyfriend.
- 6:18Speaker 3: You may remember that he moved that camera to the
- 6:21Speaker 3: right and you could see the boyfriend pleading and wanting
- 6:26Speaker 3: to grab his girlfriend. They were taken hostage and they
- 6:29Speaker 3: were separated. That story I was able to film tonight
- 6:34Speaker 3: of a man by the name of mister Orr. The
- 6:38Speaker 3: mother of the hostage told the story of her son,
- 6:41Speaker 3: of how she found out about when he was taken
- 6:44Speaker 3: and how he was kept underground without being able to
- 6:47Speaker 3: see the sun literally for years. That story I have
- 6:52Speaker 3: put up on social media so that you can hear it.
- 6:55Speaker 3: I have put it up on my Facebook account, the video,
- 6:59Speaker 3: and I hope that every one of you will go
- 7:01Speaker 3: look at it on Facebook so that you can hear
- 7:03Speaker 3: that story. But what you learn when you were here
- 7:06Speaker 3: and you talk to the hostage victims and their families
- 7:10Speaker 3: is that their stories have not been told by the media.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Their torture has not been told by the media. And
- 7:16Speaker 3: in fact, what we've seen by the media is for
- 7:18Speaker 3: them to imply on every opportunity they get that Israel
- 7:22Speaker 3: is somehow evil that they are committing genocide, that they
- 7:25Speaker 3: are the ones that are hurting innocent people, which is
- 7:27Speaker 3: not the case at all. I go back to this
- 7:30Speaker 3: partial remains that were sent by Hamas knowing that it
- 7:35Speaker 3: was not actually the hostages bodies. This is torturing the families.
- 7:41Speaker 3: They know, this is psychological warfare. We also know that
- 7:44Speaker 3: because the leadership of President Trump, we got to the
- 7:47Speaker 3: point where all living hostages were given back. And there
- 7:50Speaker 3: is incredible gratitude in Israel right now for the President
- 7:53Speaker 3: of the United States of America and him accomplishing something
- 7:57Speaker 3: very quickly that the prior administration couldn't do or didn't
- 8:00Speaker 3: do on purpose. You can decide. Which brings me to
- 8:03Speaker 3: the other point, and it's something I'm going to be
- 8:05Speaker 3: focusing on on this show the next several days. There
- 8:08Speaker 3: is definitely a rise in anti Semitism in America in
- 8:12Speaker 3: the right right now. It is being led by names
- 8:15Speaker 3: that I'm sure you know about, Candice Owans, Tucker Carlson,
- 8:19Speaker 3: Nick Flinte, and others who have decided that Israel is
- 8:22Speaker 3: not important as an ally of the United States of America.
- 8:25Speaker 3: It is also giving incredible help to the terrorist group
- 8:29Speaker 3: of mass and there is many that are concerned in
- 8:33Speaker 3: Israel about this happening in America. In fact, it's been
- 8:37Speaker 3: the number one thing I've been asked about is I've
- 8:39Speaker 3: been in Israel, is what is happening with Republicans and conservatives.
- 8:44Speaker 3: There was a warning on the top page of the
- 8:45Speaker 3: Jerusalem Post yesterday. The headline read a growing cancer. Senator
- 8:49Speaker 3: Cruz warns of anti Semitism spike on the US right.
- 8:53Speaker 3: The Senator says issue is accelerated by online normalization of
- 8:57Speaker 3: fringe figures. He also said the church to sleep. I
- 9:01Speaker 3: couldn't agree more with that, and he called on Christian
- 9:03Speaker 3: leaders to act. Senator Cruz delivering a dramatic warning that
- 9:07Speaker 3: anti Semitism is spreading on parts of the America's right
- 9:11Speaker 3: and urge conservatives, pastors, and lay leaders to draw red
- 9:16Speaker 3: lines and confront it head on. After being in Israel,
- 9:20Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with this more than what I've witnessed
- 9:22Speaker 3: since being here. And the danger is very high. The danger,
- 9:26Speaker 3: as President Trump has put it and Senator Cruz have
- 9:29Speaker 3: put it, is that you now have hardcore conservatives that
- 9:33Speaker 3: are turning a younger generation to be anti Semitic. There's
- 9:36Speaker 3: real anti Semitism on the right now, and there are
- 9:40Speaker 3: a lot of conservatives that are now believing that it's
- 9:43Speaker 3: somehow okay to say to Israel you're not our ally.
- 9:47Speaker 3: I also want to talk about national security issues, and
- 9:50Speaker 3: it's something we'll focus on tomorrow, and that is just
- 9:53Speaker 3: how important Israel is when it comes to fighting ISIS
- 9:57Speaker 3: al Qaeda and Islamic extremism in the Middle East, and
- 10:00Speaker 3: how much intelligence they give to America that allows us
- 10:03Speaker 3: to stay safe. That is going to be part of
- 10:05Speaker 3: what we're going to talk about. We're also going to
- 10:08Speaker 3: talk about what I see on the ground is I
- 10:10Speaker 3: am going to visit the site of the terrorist attack
- 10:12Speaker 3: where that festival was. I'm going to meet with more
- 10:15Speaker 3: families tomorrow that loved ones were killed and some that
- 10:19Speaker 3: were able to come home, and the leaders that are
- 10:21Speaker 3: having to deal with the fallout of the war that
- 10:24Speaker 3: has happened for far too long. So we're going to
- 10:27Speaker 3: take a moment this week to talk about Israel and
- 10:30Speaker 3: the politics of it. So what I'll tell you is this,
- 10:32Speaker 3: Go on Facebook and watch the video of the mother
- 10:35Speaker 3: tell the story of her son who has just returned,
- 10:38Speaker 3: and listen that story and tell me why on earth
- 10:40Speaker 3: would we not stand with these people that were attacked
- 10:43Speaker 3: in a horrific way, the worst attack on the Jewish
- 10:45Speaker 3: peoples entho Holocaust. Listen to our words and we'll talk
- 10:49Speaker 3: more about anti Semitism on the right as well. Finally,
- 10:52Speaker 3: what I'll tell you is this, the people of Israel.
- 10:55Speaker 3: They are so thankful for Donald Trump becoming president yet again.
- 10:59Speaker 3: They love that we have a present that is standing
- 11:02Speaker 3: with them and also understands there's a difference between right
- 11:05Speaker 3: and wrong and good and evil. That there is clarity
- 11:07Speaker 3: in the world now of where America stands with Israel,
- 11:10Speaker 3: and it's part of the conversation I'm happy to be
- 11:13Speaker 3: having while I'm here in Jerusalem.
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