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TRUMP ATTACKS: Georgia Booking "It’s Election Interference!" · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. There is a mug shot. It is official.
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Speaker 1: That mugshot has turned into the most iconic picture of
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Speaker 1: our lifetime. You can now get your mugs, you can
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Speaker 1: get your hats, you can get your shirts. And it
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Speaker 1: may be one of the biggest backfires in the history politically.
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Speaker 1: This after they decided the left to destroy our constitution
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Speaker 1: and try to lock up their political enemies. Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: was arrested by the Fulton County Sheriff. The mug shot
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Speaker 1: taken is now one of the world's most famous pictures
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Speaker 1: of one of the world's most famous men. Many are
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Speaker 1: referring to him as a political prisoner. It is his
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Speaker 1: fourth arrest of the year. Another way to look at
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Speaker 1: this is this is the Banana Republic. Former President Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump surrendered himself into custy and was booked by the
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Speaker 1: Fulton County Sheriff's office on charges stemming from District Attorney
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Speaker 1: Fanny Willis's indictment. Trump is also back on Twitter with
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Speaker 1: his first tweet since after January sixth, he was kicked
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Speaker 1: off of Twitter, saying he will never surrender. Is this
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Speaker 1: election interference? Absolutely? Donald Trump was able to speak to
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Speaker 1: the media as he was about to get on his
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Speaker 1: plane leaving Atlanta after he's taken that mugshot that the
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Speaker 1: world has seen, and this is what he had to say.
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Speaker 2: It's a very sad day for America.
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Speaker 3: This should never happen.
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Speaker 4: If you challenge an election, you should be able to
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Speaker 4: challenge an election.
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Speaker 3: I thought the election was a.
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Speaker 4: Rigged election, a stolen election, and I should have every
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Speaker 4: right to do that. As you know, you have many
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Speaker 4: people that you've been watching over the years do the
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Speaker 4: same thing, whether it's Hillary Clinton or Stacy Abrams or
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Speaker 4: many others. When you have that great freedom to challenge,
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Speaker 4: you have to be able to otherwise. You can have
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Speaker 4: heard this honest elections. What has taken place here is
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Speaker 4: a travesty of justice.
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Speaker 2: We did nothing wrong.
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Speaker 4: I did nothing wrong, and everybody knows that. I've never
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Speaker 4: had such support, and that goes with the other ones too.
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Speaker 4: What they're doing is election interference. They're trying to interfere
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Speaker 4: with an election. There's never been anything like it in
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Speaker 4: our country before. This is their way of campaigning. And
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Speaker 4: this is one instance, but you have three other instances.
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Speaker 4: It's election interference. So I want to thank you for
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Speaker 4: being here. We did nothing wrong at all, and we
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Speaker 4: have every right, every single right to challenge an election
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Speaker 4: that we think is dishonest. So we think it's very dishonest.
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Speaker 4: So thank you all very much, and I'll see you
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Speaker 4: very soon. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Obviously a measured response from the President of the United
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Speaker 1: States of America.
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Speaker 3: There.
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Speaker 1: Now the bigger question is how is the country going
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Speaker 1: to respond to seeing a former president of the United
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Speaker 1: States of America actually having a mugshot. I think this
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Speaker 1: is going to be a massive backfire. I think the
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Speaker 1: American people realize now just how egregious. It's one thing
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Speaker 1: when you hear it that someone's being indicted. It's another
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Speaker 1: thing when you say that he is being charged. It's
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Speaker 1: another thing though, when you see that mug shot. This
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Speaker 1: is going to be one of the most disgusting moments
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Speaker 1: in American political history. Alan Dershowitz on the Trump and
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Speaker 1: Fanny Willis is saying, now she wants a quick conviction,
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Speaker 1: wants to put this to trial quickly. And the reason
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Speaker 1: why she wants a conviction she thinks she can get
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Speaker 1: a bias jury in Fulton County. But she also wants
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Speaker 1: us to clearly interfere with the presidential election. This is
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Speaker 1: election interference. Oddly enough, the same thing that they're arguing
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump did. Take a listen to what Dershowitz had
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Speaker 1: to say on Fox Business.
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Speaker 5: We've got a big story we want to follow for you.
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Speaker 5: And this, of course has been happening since last night,
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Speaker 5: with this all really broke down. Former President Trump's most
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Speaker 5: shot released after he was booked into the Fulton County
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Speaker 5: Jail in Georgia last night. This is the first mug
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Speaker 5: shot ever taken of a former US president. So he
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Speaker 5: slammed that fourth indictment after posting a two hundred thousand
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Speaker 5: dollars bond. Listen to what he said, he should be
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Speaker 5: able to challenge an election.
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Speaker 2: I thought the.
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Speaker 4: Election was a rigged election, the stolen election, and I
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Speaker 4: should have every right to do that. As you know,
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Speaker 4: you have many people that you've been watching over the
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Speaker 4: years do the same thing, whether it's Hillary Clinton or
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Speaker 4: Stacy Abrams or many others.
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Speaker 5: Trump is one of twelve co defendants who have so
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Speaker 5: far had their mugshots released in the Georgia election case.
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Speaker 5: Joining me now is Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dursherwich,
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Speaker 5: And it's great to see you, sir. Of course, are
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Speaker 5: the author of the book Get Trump, the threat to
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Speaker 5: civil liberties, do process and our constitutional rule of law,
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Speaker 5: your initial reaction to the charges against President Trump. And
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Speaker 5: also this issue of a mug shot. I mean, he
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Speaker 5: put it out there on social media. He's obviously fighting
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Speaker 5: back alan he should.
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Speaker 6: In my book Get Trump, I predicted all four these indictments.
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Speaker 6: The strategy is to get a quick trial, get him
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Speaker 6: convicted in jurisdictions that are overwhelmingly anti Trump, and then
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Speaker 6: not worry about it being reversed on appeal because the
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Speaker 6: reversals on appeal.
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Speaker 7: Will occur after the election.
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Speaker 6: It's clearly a political ploy, especially since the district attorney
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Speaker 6: now says she wants the trial within two months.
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Speaker 7: It's unthinkable.
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Speaker 6: Never in history has there been a trial within two
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Speaker 6: months of a case as complex and difficult as this,
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Speaker 6: with so many defendants and so many counts. But what
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Speaker 6: she wants is the mugshot. She's gotten that, the finger printing.
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Speaker 6: She would like to get a quick conviction with a
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Speaker 6: biased jury, and then not worry about it being reversed
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Speaker 6: on appeal. That's tomorrow's news after the election.
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Speaker 7: That's just unfair, unfair.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing's unfair and that's exactly why they're trying
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Speaker 1: to do this, Alan Dursa, which there is absolutely right.
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Speaker 1: You have to understand this is not about a fair trial.
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Speaker 1: This is not about thinking Donald Trump actually did anything wrong.
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Speaker 1: This is about an activist da just like the other
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Speaker 1: activist das, except this one in Georgia and Fulton County
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Speaker 1: is so egregious because she's actually running off of this.
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Speaker 1: She's raising money off of this, the idea that we're
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Speaker 1: going to have some sort of speedy trial in Georgia
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Speaker 1: versus Donald Trump. Even on CNN this morning, they were
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Speaker 1: talking about Trump's complicated legal calendar is quote filling up
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Speaker 1: quickly because everybody's trying to influence the election, that if
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Speaker 1: they can tie him up in court, then they're going
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Speaker 1: to do it, because then he's not campaigning for president.
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Speaker 3: That is the definition of election interference.
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Speaker 8: This is a a really important development. Under Georgia law,
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Speaker 8: if you are a defendant and you insist on a
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Speaker 8: speedy trial, speedy trial right, by the way, belongs to
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Speaker 8: the defendant, you must be tried by the end of
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Speaker 8: the next court term, which here means before November. Kenneth
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Speaker 8: cheezbro has I want my speedy trial. Fannie Willis said, fine,
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Speaker 8: we'll see your speed trial.
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Speaker 7: Will see you.
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Speaker 8: October twenty third, and the judge said, okay, that's what.
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Speaker 8: When we're doing your trial now, Fannie Willis said, in fact,
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Speaker 8: I'm going to try all nineteen of you on October
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Speaker 8: twenty third. But let me just say that's not happening.
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Speaker 7: May have a right to contest that.
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Speaker 8: Exactly, you have a right to say, I want my
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Speaker 8: speedy trial. But if you need a little more time
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Speaker 8: than two months to prepare for a massive case like this,
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Speaker 8: you're gonna get it now. If he goes first, we're
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Speaker 8: going to have separate sequential trials. Big advantage for everyone else.
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Speaker 8: They'll sit back and watch the prosecution put on a
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Speaker 8: toll case against Kenna cheezbro see all the witnesses, cross
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Speaker 8: exam take notes.
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Speaker 7: Big tactical advantage.
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Speaker 5: And also, if she doesn't meet that date for trial,
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Speaker 5: he's acquitted.
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Speaker 8: Yes, the case gets thrown out if they don't try
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Speaker 8: him in time.
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Speaker 2: Calendar.
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Speaker 8: Okay, here's twenty twenty four, nice and free, right, looks good. Yeah, November,
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Speaker 8: of course is the election. We're all watching that. Let's
7:51
Speaker 8: look at what we have on the schedule. The New
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Speaker 8: York hush money case. Remember that one that has been
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Speaker 8: scheduled for trial starting in late March. That's certainly gonna
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Speaker 8: go through to April. Jack Smith's case, the federal case
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Speaker 8: for mar A Lago down in Florida, that one has
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Speaker 8: been scheduled for late May. That is certainly going to
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Speaker 8: carry through June and July. Now, Jack Smith's other case
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Speaker 8: is January sixth case. He has asked to start in
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Speaker 8: early January. If he gets that, it's going to carry
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Speaker 8: at least through April, probably beyond that. Now Trump's team
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Speaker 8: has said we want to trial in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 8: That's on the other side of the studio.
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Speaker 2: You don't have a twenty twenty six county.
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Speaker 8: No, we don't have a twenty twenty six page just yet.
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Speaker 8: But the judge is going to hear that on Monday.
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Speaker 8: There's gonna be hearing where she's gonna consider that. And finally,
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Speaker 8: just to make it extra complicated, Fannie Willis, if she
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Speaker 8: doesn't manage to move everyone up to that speedy child date,
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Speaker 8: she wants to start in early March, which is going
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Speaker 8: to take given how slowly things move in Georgia. All
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Speaker 8: the way through here, you can't have the same person
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Speaker 8: on it.
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Speaker 3: Now, let me be clear what this man is saying.
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Speaker 1: It's seen it Okay, he's saying that you'd have January sixth,
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Speaker 1: start in January twenty two, twenty four trial that would
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Speaker 1: go at least into April, so he would be in
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Speaker 1: that trial. Then in Georgia, New York, they want to
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Speaker 1: start in March of twenty twenty four of their cases.
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Speaker 1: So that means you'd have three cases simultaneously that would
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Speaker 1: happen in March, April, May, June, July, and August. Then
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Speaker 1: after that you'd have another trial that would start in
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Speaker 1: September October, and that would run through November's the election.
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Speaker 1: So if the if these people that are acting like
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Speaker 1: we live now in the Banana Republic, get what they want,
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Speaker 1: you would have Donald Trump being in three trials simultaneously
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Speaker 1: for the entire calendar of twenty twenty four, the entire calendar.
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Speaker 1: You would not have basically a single month off of
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Speaker 1: being in a court. If that's not the definition of
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Speaker 1: election interference, I don't know what is. There's all also
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Speaker 1: something else about this indictment of Donald Trump that you
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Speaker 1: need to understand, and that is Donald Trump's phone call
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Speaker 1: in Georgia that they're now charging him with these crimes
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Speaker 1: was actually a phone call that he was making the
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Speaker 1: case for a recount, which is not, by the way,
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Speaker 1: against the law. But when you have a Banana Republic
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Speaker 1: DA and Democrats that just want to lock up their
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Speaker 1: political opponents regardless of what they actually have or have
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Speaker 1: not done, and they find crimes out of thin air,
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Speaker 1: and they're trying to interfere with an election by having
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Speaker 1: three simultaneous court cases at the exact same time during
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Speaker 1: the election years. So Trump can't be on the campaign trail.
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Speaker 1: This is what you get Jonathan Turley over at Fox
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Speaker 1: talking about that phone call, making it clear what they're
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Speaker 1: charging him with and why it is so absurd.
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Speaker 9: Paul was about, so my question to you is, you know,
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Speaker 9: what did he do here? Or is this an example
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Speaker 9: that you might have a legal theory. Maybe it's seemed controversial.
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Speaker 9: Is it a legitimate theory, especially in light of you know,
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Speaker 9: let's say what happened in nineteen sixty with John Kennedy
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Speaker 9: and why and alternate electors chosen.
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Speaker 10: I think this is criminalizing the challenging of elections. Basically,
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Speaker 10: you have a democratic prosecutor saying, how dare you challenge
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Speaker 10: a Democratic victory? Well, it's been done before by Democrats,
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Speaker 10: and the whole case is based on this theory that
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump really didn't mean it. Well, neither did those
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Speaker 10: even if that were true, neither of those Democrats. They
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Speaker 10: challenged Trump's election on no grounds at all. I mean,
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Speaker 10: many of these past challenges were very, very thin. But
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Speaker 10: in Donald Trump's case, he insists that he does believe
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Speaker 10: that Georgia could have been flipped with a recount, and
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Speaker 10: the way that she portrayed that phone call to Raethensberger,
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Speaker 10: I think is really evidence of the bias and unfairness
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Speaker 10: the aspects of this indictment. You know, it is it
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Speaker 10: makes perfect sense when you're challenging an election to say,
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Speaker 10: you know, I only need a round eleven thousand votes,
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Speaker 10: So if you do a state wide review, that's not
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Speaker 10: a lot in a state like Georgia, that's not criminal.
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Speaker 10: That's making a case for a recount.
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Speaker 9: All right, Jonathan Turley, great to have you, as always,
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Speaker 9: very appreciating.
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Speaker 1: That's making this case for recount. You hear him there,
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Speaker 1: that's not a criminal act there, Remember he didn't he said,
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Speaker 1: this is close find it right, this is close.
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Speaker 3: Find it now.
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Speaker 1: By the way, while all of this is happening, okay,
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Speaker 1: while everybody's freaking out over Donald Trump and this, and
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Speaker 1: you should be. But while they're wanting you to focus
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Speaker 1: on this, there's some other intel that's come out that
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Speaker 1: deals with the Biden crime family and Senator John Kennedy,
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Speaker 1: who's on the Senate Judiciary Committee, a Republican Fluisian. I'd
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Speaker 1: spent some time with him. Actually this past weekend he
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Speaker 1: came out reminding voters, Hey, you should be angry over
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Speaker 1: this election interference, no doubt, but realize what's breaking on
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Speaker 1: the Biden crime family so that you don't lose focus
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Speaker 1: on just how big of a deal what they have done.
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Speaker 9: Actually it percent as the big guy. Why do you
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Speaker 9: think we have How do you analyze this for the
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Speaker 9: people at home that are trying to make sense of this,
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Speaker 9: because it sounds to me like America's justice system is
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Speaker 9: turned on its head. We've got one for Republicans and
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Speaker 9: one for Democrats.
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Speaker 11: Well, it seems to me, Sean, that Hunter Day is
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Speaker 11: about two things, privilege and sleeves. First, the privilege President
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Speaker 11: Baden and many members of the media lecture us incessantly
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Speaker 11: about the injustice of privilege, especially so called white privilege.
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Speaker 7: But to me, that's like being lectured.
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Speaker 11: About gun safety by Alec Baldwin, because when they lecture
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Speaker 11: us about privilege, they never mention Haunter Biden, who is
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Speaker 11: the epitome of privilege. How did Hunter Biden earn these
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Speaker 11: millions of dollars?
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Speaker 7: Is it because he's so smart?
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Speaker 11: How smart is it to turn over on laptop with
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Speaker 11: incriminating information to a stranger? How smart is it to
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Speaker 11: try to deduct your hookers on your federal income tax?
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Speaker 11: Did the Ukrainian and Chinese companies picked mister Hunter Biden
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Speaker 11: because they were impressed with his resume on ZIP recruiter.
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Speaker 7: No, it was his daddy.
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Speaker 11: It was always about his Hunter Biden is just a vessel.
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Speaker 11: He's just a lucky sperm. And the next time that
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Speaker 11: you are lectured, we are lectured about about privilege. I
15:13
Speaker 11: want people to remember that point two. If you are
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Speaker 11: fair minded and have any sort of moral compass, all
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Speaker 11: the sleeves surrounding Hunter Biden and President Biden and their
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Speaker 11: family has got to make you want to gag. Now
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Speaker 11: I know what the official White House line is. The
15:36
Speaker 11: official White House line is that, look, President Biden is
15:41
Speaker 11: just a good family man who talks to six out
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Speaker 11: of his seven grandchildren every day, and who is such
15:52
Speaker 11: a swell daddy that he regularly calls into Hunter's business
15:57
Speaker 11: meetings to talk about weather.
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Speaker 7: Now, if you.
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Speaker 11: Believe that you will never own your own home, at
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Speaker 11: a minimum, at a minimum, the evidence brought forth by
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Speaker 11: the House and by Cenator for Grassley, by the way,
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Speaker 11: in the Senate is clarium clear that President Biden was
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Speaker 11: well aware of what his son was doing, and he
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Speaker 11: aggressively enabled it, and he at sleazy and he.
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Speaker 9: Also got enriched. What does this mean for our country?
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Speaker 1: Centator, let me just pause there when he says what
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Speaker 1: does this mean for a country? Center, I can tell
16:38
Speaker 1: you exactly what this means for their country. We live
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Speaker 1: in a country now where Democrats have decided to hijack
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Speaker 1: the judiciary to then lock up their political opponents so
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Speaker 1: that no one will ever want to run for office.
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Speaker 1: weaponized our judicial system to make it clear that to
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Speaker 1: people that might want to serve an elected official, it's
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17:18
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17:22
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17:24
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17:28
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17:32
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17:44
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Speaker 1: the Biden crime family and Donald Trump. They're indicting Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump for making a phone call about how many votes
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Speaker 1: he was down in Georgia.
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Speaker 3: It's not illegal. That's what they're indicting him for.
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Speaker 1: They're indicting him for a statue of limitations that had
19:48
Speaker 1: already expired for a payment then he made to Stormy Daniels,
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Speaker 1: which by the way, wasn't against the law.
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Speaker 3: You're allowed to do that. You're indicting him.
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Speaker 1: For what he clearly said was supposed to be peaceful,
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Speaker 1: a peaceful January sixth. You compare that to what the
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Speaker 1: Biden crime family has done, there is no comparison. But
20:13
Speaker 1: look who's got the mug shot. This Georgia booking was
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Speaker 1: a terrible moment for the history of this country. It
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Speaker 1: is election interference, that's what it is. Donald Trump went
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Speaker 1: on TV to talk with Greg Jared about this, and
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear what he said about it
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Speaker 1: because it is shocking and what he said it was
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Speaker 1: a terrible experience, and it is a terrible experience. Like
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Speaker 1: the fact that you're a former president. Now they're trying
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Speaker 1: to lock you up for what is it now, seven
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Speaker 1: hundred something years, seven hundred something years if all the
20:45
Speaker 1: charges would stick, which of course they're not going to.
20:47
Speaker 1: But the Democrats don't care. They just need something to
20:49
Speaker 1: stick today.
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Speaker 12: It's totally absurd in my opinion.
20:53
Speaker 7: But what was it like?
20:54
Speaker 12: How do they treat you? What was the experience like today?
20:57
Speaker 2: In jail experience? I came in, I was treated very nicely.
21:04
Speaker 2: But it is what it is. I took a mug shot,
21:07
Speaker 2: which I never heard the words mug shot. That wasn't
21:11
Speaker 2: didn't teach me that at the Worn't School of Finance,
21:14
Speaker 2: and I have to go through a process. It's election interference.
21:19
Speaker 2: You know that better than anybody. You cover it so well.
21:21
Speaker 2: It's just a fantastic job, I have to tell you
21:24
Speaker 2: for the listeners, a fantastic job. But it's a very
21:28
Speaker 2: sad experience and it's a very sad day for our country.
21:32
Speaker 2: This is a weaponized justice department and all of these
21:35
Speaker 2: indicatpants and cases. I have a couple of cases are
21:38
Speaker 2: not indapants. It just cases where you have these left
21:42
Speaker 2: lawyers doing well. Like a woman that I never saw
21:46
Speaker 2: before other than that gave you took a picty twenty
21:49
Speaker 2: five years ago on a line on a contributors line
21:53
Speaker 2: or something, or charity line. Everything. It's just like one
21:58
Speaker 2: thing after the the next, and what they want to
22:01
Speaker 2: do is they want to try and wear you out.
22:03
Speaker 2: Would ever do, but they want to w about just
22:07
Speaker 2: an absolute horrible thing that they're doing. And I've never
22:11
Speaker 2: seen anything like it. This is third world country, and
22:14
Speaker 2: I really believe they're getting hit by. You know, we
22:16
Speaker 2: were going there were tremendous crowds in Atlanta and they
22:19
Speaker 2: were so friendly, so friendly. But this is a radical
22:22
Speaker 2: left district attorney, as we have in New York, and
22:25
Speaker 2: as we have in all the other places, whether it's
22:28
Speaker 2: district attorney or AG's we have that in New York.
22:31
Speaker 2: They're going after all for nothing, I mean the AG case.
22:34
Speaker 2: They have no case against me at all. Do it
22:37
Speaker 2: to try and get elected, but they also do it
22:40
Speaker 2: could in coord with the Department of Injustice in Washington.
22:45
Speaker 2: Terrible thing never happened before.
22:48
Speaker 12: You know, it's not working for them, I mean so far.
22:52
Speaker 12: I don't think they ever could have dreamt that you
22:54
Speaker 12: would be going up in the polls and beating everybody
22:57
Speaker 12: by forty points and beating Joe Biden. Tucker asked you
23:02
Speaker 12: last night, I think you know, I do you think
23:04
Speaker 12: they're going to try to kill you? There's gonna be
23:07
Speaker 12: They're panicking. I think they're panicking and they're gonna try
23:10
Speaker 12: something else. Are you worried about that? Are your lawyers
23:13
Speaker 12: worried about that? Is there something else you think they
23:16
Speaker 12: could pull? Judge Lootig said he wants to pull you
23:18
Speaker 12: off the ballot, have secretaries of state pull you off
23:21
Speaker 12: the ballot, because he says you're an insurrectionist, which you're
23:24
Speaker 12: not even in charged with. Are you worried?
23:27
Speaker 3: Well?
23:27
Speaker 2: I watched this guy. He seems like a lady at least.
23:32
Speaker 2: I don't know what his problem is, but he sounds
23:34
Speaker 2: he looks like a really troubled guy. And everybody laughs
23:37
Speaker 2: at it. Even over at CNN are laughing at it.
23:41
Speaker 2: And now their ratings are so low it doesn't matter
23:43
Speaker 2: whether or not they laugh. But I have to tell
23:45
Speaker 2: you that they will stoop to noa to try and
23:51
Speaker 2: win an election. They cheated like nobody can believe on
23:55
Speaker 2: the last one, and they want to do it again.
23:56
Speaker 2: This is going to be a different of cheating. This
23:59
Speaker 2: is a cheating that's going to be election interference. And
24:02
Speaker 2: I think what's happening is has really been a backlash
24:05
Speaker 2: against I've seen tremendous backlash, not only on your show,
24:09
Speaker 2: and you've been so incredible, but on so many shows
24:12
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't even think about it, and articles where
24:16
Speaker 2: even Democrats they don't do it, don't do it? Please
24:19
Speaker 2: you make it a terrible mis taking it. But you know,
24:23
Speaker 2: I went through an experience today that I never thought
24:25
Speaker 2: that I'd have to go through. But yet I've gone
24:27
Speaker 2: through the same experience three other times. In my whole life.
24:31
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about indictment, and now I've been
24:33
Speaker 2: indicted like four times, and all by the radical left.
24:38
Speaker 2: And it's in coordination, absolutely in coordination with the Justice Department.
24:44
Speaker 12: So mister President, you you're unique. You can you can
24:48
Speaker 12: take it.
24:49
Speaker 2: I want to.
24:49
Speaker 12: We got a picture of the nineteen I think co defendants,
24:52
Speaker 12: and you know some of them, you know, they're not
24:56
Speaker 12: possibly built like you. Some of them are just ordinary people.
25:00
Speaker 12: You got some people who just wrote a letter or
25:01
Speaker 12: wrote a memo and now they've been charged and booked
25:04
Speaker 12: and all that stuff. And you know some people, I
25:07
Speaker 12: think Rudy Giuliani, you know, he almost lives for it.
25:10
Speaker 12: I admire him so much. How do you view these
25:14
Speaker 12: nineteen Do you view them? Are you in this together?
25:18
Speaker 12: They say? Co defendants? And how do you view them
25:21
Speaker 12: are you? Are you one team? And also I think
25:23
Speaker 12: they're trying to make this trial happen in October, which
25:29
Speaker 12: sounds kind of crazy.
25:31
Speaker 2: Well, they wait three years to do it, and they
25:34
Speaker 2: take their time. Everything takes your time. And this is
25:36
Speaker 2: only not only here, but also deranged Jack, who is
25:41
Speaker 2: absolutely he's like a lunatic. He's got crazy. But they
25:45
Speaker 2: waited years to get the you know, to go through
25:48
Speaker 2: a case, and then they drop it right in the
25:50
Speaker 2: middle of the election when I'm leading Biden by five
25:53
Speaker 2: or six points at least, But right in the middle
25:56
Speaker 2: of the election, they drop it. And I tell you,
25:59
Speaker 2: you just said something that's very true. I looked at
26:02
Speaker 2: some of the other muck shots. Could you believe it?
26:05
Speaker 2: And Rudy's a tough guy, and Rudy can handle It's
26:07
Speaker 2: greatest mayor and your father was the greatest police commissioner,
26:11
Speaker 2: but the greatest mayor in the history of the city.
26:14
Speaker 2: Rudy shouldn't be going through this. He didn't do anything wrong.
26:18
Speaker 9: You know.
26:18
Speaker 2: He's the one and we all are the ones that
26:21
Speaker 2: questioned the election. The ones they should go after are
26:24
Speaker 2: the ones that rigged the election. That's the ones that
26:27
Speaker 2: should be in trouble, not the ones that are trying
26:29
Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of what happened. It's a
26:32
Speaker 2: very sad thing. But Rudy can handle it. But I
26:34
Speaker 2: look at some of the other people. Now, I don't
26:36
Speaker 2: know a lot of those people. I don't even know
26:39
Speaker 2: that I've met a lot of those people, but some
26:41
Speaker 2: I do and their lives are destroyed by these maniacs.
26:45
Speaker 2: These are animals. These are vicious animals that have destroyed
26:49
Speaker 2: the lives of these people. And Greg, it's so said,
26:53
Speaker 2: And they don't have a lot of money, and some
26:56
Speaker 2: of them did almost nothing. They don't even know what
26:58
Speaker 2: they're being charged for. It's fair. I mean, I have
27:01
Speaker 2: counts where you're gonna love this. Chris Ruddy will be thrilled.
27:06
Speaker 2: But one of the things is I told people Newsmas.
27:10
Speaker 2: Did you know that? That was one of my counts.
27:11
Speaker 2: I told people to watch Newsmacks.
27:14
Speaker 12: We love it, Sirsmack. Thank you for that.
27:19
Speaker 2: H But I hope you I hope you don't get George.
27:22
Speaker 2: You'll probably get charged because I mentioned your name, so
27:26
Speaker 2: but I think you'll be okay.
27:28
Speaker 12: I think it's a badge of honor. Quite frankly, and
27:30
Speaker 12: let's see what happens, Uh, mister president the debate last night. Uh,
27:34
Speaker 12: I'm sure you call it at least some of it.
27:37
Speaker 12: Did you see a potential vice president on that stage?
27:41
Speaker 12: Did you really see somebody who might be eligible?
27:43
Speaker 3: And overall, what.
27:44
Speaker 12: Do you think?
27:45
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I did an interview with Tucker Carlson,
27:48
Speaker 2: who's a terrific guy. And I don't know if you
27:51
Speaker 2: saw the number of views, but it was a record
27:53
Speaker 2: setting number.
27:54
Speaker 7: It was.
27:55
Speaker 2: They say it could be close to three hundred by
27:57
Speaker 2: the time it finishes, and right now it's up to
28:01
Speaker 2: I think two hundred and fifty seven million, and it
28:04
Speaker 2: is bigger than the you know, the biggest ever interview
28:08
Speaker 2: was OPRAH with Michael Jackson. I don't know if you
28:10
Speaker 2: know that, but that was that's the old time biggest
28:12
Speaker 2: and I think we've doubled it up. So something's going
28:16
Speaker 2: on to Our country is dying for a good country again.
28:20
Speaker 2: We're a failing nation. We're failing country, and they're absolutely
28:24
Speaker 2: you know, they're looking forward to getting back to what
28:26
Speaker 2: we had. I had the safest borders, the biggest tax
28:28
Speaker 2: cuts that we had, Everything was doing so well, our
28:31
Speaker 2: military was great. Russia would have never happened with Ukraine,
28:35
Speaker 2: China would never be thinking about. You know, we had
28:38
Speaker 2: a country that people want to get back to, and
28:41
Speaker 2: that's why we had the compers. As far as the
28:45
Speaker 2: sage last night, I thought Viveke, as we say, did
28:50
Speaker 2: very well to go. Actually it was vivic like cake.
28:54
Speaker 2: But I thought he was very good, especially like where
28:56
Speaker 2: I said I was the greatest president in his lifetime
29:00
Speaker 2: and long beyond. That's pretty good. I said, are you
29:03
Speaker 2: sure he's running against me? But I thought he was
29:05
Speaker 2: very good. I wasn't impressed with a lot. I mean,
29:09
Speaker 2: Christy got boot out of the room. He literally should
29:11
Speaker 2: have walked off the stage.
29:13
Speaker 10: That.
29:13
Speaker 2: You know, I've been watching debates for a long time.
29:15
Speaker 2: I've never seen anyone booed like that. As I call
29:19
Speaker 2: him Ada Hutchinson, he shouldn't even be there. He's wasting room,
29:24
Speaker 2: he's wasting space, and he's wasting time. The guy's got
29:27
Speaker 2: like one half of one percent and he doesn't stop.
29:31
Speaker 2: And he's a nasty person. You know, Frankly, he's very nasty.
29:34
Speaker 2: I don't even know him. He says bad things about me.
29:36
Speaker 2: I don't even know him, but I don't think that,
29:40
Speaker 2: you know, I actually like the governor. I respect him
29:43
Speaker 2: a lot.
29:43
Speaker 7: He was great.
29:44
Speaker 2: He endorsed me twice. The governor of North Dakota, who
29:49
Speaker 2: I thought was you know, I think he's got something
29:52
Speaker 2: very good about him. He's a high quality person.
29:54
Speaker 1: Let me just say one final thing about Trump in
29:58
Speaker 1: this interview. If if you are Donald Trump right now
30:02
Speaker 1: and you're having to go through this, I want you
30:04
Speaker 1: to think there's two ways You're gonna either just say
30:07
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted and I'm sick of this, or there's going
30:10
Speaker 1: to be hell to pay and I'm going all in.
30:12
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna pick the latter.
30:15
Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump is going to make sure that
30:19
Speaker 1: there is hell to pay, and there should be hell
30:21
Speaker 1: to pay for what has just happened. I think Donald
30:25
Speaker 1: Trump is gonna say, you better get the hell out
30:28
Speaker 1: of my way, and I'm gonna win this thing. And
30:31
Speaker 1: Democrats are going to say, no, you're not. I'm gonna
30:34
Speaker 1: put you in jail, and I'm going to put you
30:35
Speaker 1: on trial, and you're going to be in three trials
30:37
Speaker 1: the same time, which, by the way, cannot happen. But hell,
30:40
Speaker 1: then maybe they'll try it. Who knows, maybe they'll actually
30:44
Speaker 1: try to do that who knows, but that's what they're
30:47
Speaker 1: gonna do here. They're going to try to turn this
30:52
Speaker 1: into an opportunity for them to get Donald Trump off
30:57
Speaker 1: the campaign trail. That is literally the definition of election interference,
31:03
Speaker 1: putting someone on trials so they have to defend themselves
31:06
Speaker 1: instead of out running for president. He is the front
31:08
Speaker 1: runner by what forty five fifty points now, he's got
31:12
Speaker 1: a twenty five point lead over the entire rest of
31:14
Speaker 1: the field combined if you add all their poll numbers together.
31:20
Speaker 3: And now they've got a mug shot.
31:22
Speaker 1: I do believe, and I'll say it even more, I
31:25
Speaker 1: hope this is the biggest backfire you've ever seen. I
31:30
Speaker 1: hope that Democrats will never do this again.
31:34
Speaker 3: I doubt it. Okay, they probably will.
31:36
Speaker 1: They'll probably do it a bunch because they're stupid and
31:38
Speaker 1: they don't care about this country and freedom and they
31:41
Speaker 1: just don't they don't care. But I hope, okay, I
31:45
Speaker 1: hope that this will be one of the biggest backfires
31:50
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen in politics. And if he is
31:52
Speaker 1: the nominee, and I believe that at this point he
31:54
Speaker 1: will be that he not only gets the nomination and
31:58
Speaker 1: goes after them but I hope the American people will
32:01
Speaker 1: watch it and realize it and understand it and go, Okay,
32:04
Speaker 1: this was a really bad decision from us, and this
32:06
Speaker 1: is backfiring on.
32:07
Speaker 3: Us big time. All right.
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