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Payment of $200,000 from James Biden to Joe Biden Further Incriminates the Biden Crime Family · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Well, we still have no speaker in the House. That
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Speaker 1: is something that should make you angry because there are
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Speaker 1: idiot Republicans that are continuing to screw the American people
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Speaker 1: in the will of the people to give us a
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Speaker 1: speaker that we all want. That speaker was to be
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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, and who stopped it, not Democrats but Republicans.
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Speaker 1: What happens next, no one knows. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: different theories out there of will we pick a guy
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Speaker 1: that everyone can agree on, will the Democrats end up
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Speaker 1: helping with a couple Republicans choose who the next speaker
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Speaker 1: will be. And there are important issues that are going
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Speaker 1: on in Washington and investigations that are happening, and a
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Speaker 1: war between Israel and terrorists that desperately need to be
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Speaker 1: dealt with, and the Republican Party still doesn't have a
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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. This is a disaster. Now I
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Speaker 1: want to move from that because there's other big news
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Speaker 1: that happened. This is news that came out on Friday
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Speaker 1: that is significant. House Oversight Committee Chairman Representative James Comer
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Speaker 1: offered an update on a report of a two hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars check a payment to President Joe Biden from
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Speaker 1: his brother Jim Biden. In the memo line it said
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Speaker 1: loan reimbursement. Were there any loan papers connected to this? No, not,
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Speaker 1: from what we understand. Was this a way of funneling
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Speaker 1: money to the President of United States of America?
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Speaker 2: The big guy. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: James Comer went on Hannity to explain what they found
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Speaker 1: in this investigation. Now, this is the first time that
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Speaker 1: we've had direct linkage and proof of hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 1: of dollars going into the bank account of Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: from the Biden crime family business. Listen to what James
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Speaker 1: Comer said. Now, please take what I'm giving you, share
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Speaker 2: Hit that little forward button.
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Speaker 1: Share it so other people hear this, because the media
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Speaker 1: is not wanting you to understand. This is so much
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Speaker 1: bigger than Watergate. This is so much bigger than anything
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Speaker 1: we've seen before. This is time direct payments to the
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Speaker 1: President of the United States of America from bad actors
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Speaker 1: around the world.
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Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 3: House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer has released new evidence
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Speaker 3: today in his investigation into the Biden family syndicate, their
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Speaker 3: business dealings and this is a bombshell. Take a look
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Speaker 3: at this. That is a check from Jim Biden, that is, Joe,
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Speaker 3: Biden's brother, to Joe, for a whopping two hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 3: And this very check was written on the exact same
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Speaker 3: day that Jim allegedly got a quote loan from a
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Speaker 3: failing hospital company for the exact same amount of money.
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Speaker 3: We did reach out to the parties involved for comment,
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Speaker 3: and shockingly we didn't hear back. But clearly this news
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Speaker 3: is creating some panic inside the Biden Whitehouse. Tonight, want
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Speaker 3: of Biden's press Underling's rush to make sure that everybody
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Speaker 3: knows the check clearly says it was a loan repayment
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Speaker 3: from Jim to Joe. But if that's true, it unlocks
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Speaker 3: a whole new host of questions. Why did Joe loan
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Speaker 3: Jim two hundred grand in the first place? Question two?
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Speaker 3: How did Joe, admittedly one of the poorest members of
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Speaker 3: the Senate, a career public servant, how did he have
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Speaker 3: and was able to? I was he able to afford
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Speaker 3: to give that amount of money to his brother? And
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Speaker 3: why did Jim need to be paid by someone else
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Speaker 3: before he could repay Joe he went to details House
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Speaker 3: Oversight and Accountability Committee Chair James Comer's with us, and
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Speaker 3: by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, and maybe
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Speaker 3: I'm jumping ahead. You have other new evidence that we
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Speaker 3: expect next week that'll show something similar.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we found a lot of suspicious checks that the
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Speaker 4: brother was involved in and Joe was a beneficiaria of
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Speaker 4: and we're going to talk about that as we move on.
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Speaker 4: But what we're doing is we're tracing the money.
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Speaker 3: Sean.
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Speaker 4: It's not just that they got a two hundred thousand
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Speaker 4: dollars payment that Joe Biden received a two hundre thousand
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Speaker 4: dollar baby, it's where the money came from. And the
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Speaker 4: money came from Jim Biden where he influenced pedaled to
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Speaker 4: a company in the United States that he went and
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Speaker 4: said that he could help, through his brother's contacts, get
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Speaker 4: capital from the Middle East. So he convinced this company
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Speaker 4: to give him six hundred thousand dollars and they did
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Speaker 4: it in increments. The last increment was two hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 4: That two hundred thousand dollars then went to Jim Biden's
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Speaker 4: personal account and it was a loan. According to the
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Speaker 4: way Jim Biden deposited, and then he wrote on the
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Speaker 4: same day a check to Joe Biden for a loan repayment.
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Speaker 4: Now they're playing the loan card a lot. Remember the
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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars wire that we identified
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Speaker 4: three weeks ago that came from China to Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 4: that was addressed to Joe Biden's house. The White House
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Speaker 4: said that was a loan too. Sean, you're going to
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Speaker 4: be hearing out of the White House over the next
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Speaker 4: few weeks. Is loan loan? Loan? And look, even if
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden did give his brother a loan, which I
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Speaker 4: don't believe he did, the fact that his brother defrauded
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Speaker 4: a company that is now bankrupt and all the creditors
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Speaker 4: lost all their money that they invested in this or
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Speaker 4: loan to this healthcare company, But Joe Biden got two
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Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars from him before they went bankrupt, all
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Speaker 4: because Jim Biden was selling the brand, was selling the
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Speaker 4: Biden name, and convinced people to pay money in exchange
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Speaker 4: for favors from Joe Biden.
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you have to have a record of when you
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Speaker 3: gave the loan and wouldn't that bank record exists as well.
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Speaker 3: Have you been able to find that?
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Speaker 4: Well, we just announced a check today and we've asked
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Speaker 4: the White House to produce documentation of the loan, the
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Speaker 4: terms of the loan. And we also want to know
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Speaker 4: from Joe Biden. Was he aware when he took that
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Speaker 4: two hundred thousand dollars that it came from a company
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Speaker 4: his brother defrauded in the name of Joe Biden, that
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden could come in and save the day through
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Speaker 4: his contacts in the Middle East. John That's where this
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Speaker 4: influence pedling scheme came. We've talked about China, Romania, Russia, Ukraine,
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Speaker 4: now we're talking about the Middle East. We've talked about
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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden. Now we're on to Jim Biden. We've been
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Speaker 4: following the money. We're going to continue to follow the money,
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Speaker 4: but more and more suspicious activity is popping up everywhere
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Speaker 4: to the tunes of millions and millions of dollars from
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Speaker 4: the Biden family. And now we have evidence that Joe
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Speaker 4: Biden benefited directly from this. If his brother hadn't defrauded
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Speaker 4: that company through the influence peddling scheme, he never could
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Speaker 4: have paid Joe Biden back that two hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 4: Assuming Joe Biden really loaned him two hundred thousand dollars,
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Speaker 4: which I'm not convinced that he did, would.
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Speaker 3: It be a fair assessment. In the next couple of weeks,
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Speaker 3: there'll be a cascading amount of devastating evidence like this
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Speaker 3: that proves that by following the money, that everything Joe
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Speaker 3: Biden said about his involvement and all of this is false.
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Speaker 3: Is that a fair statement.
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Speaker 4: Look, I think we continue to produce evidence. I think
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Speaker 4: we've already produced a lot of evidence. But the media says, well,
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Speaker 4: you got to have a payment to Joe. Well, here
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Speaker 4: we go, here's the first payment to Joe. Stay tuned, Sean.
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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. Let me tell you this.
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Speaker 1: I've talked to several people that are around this investigation
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Speaker 1: in Washington this week when I was in DC. This
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Speaker 1: is not going to be the only check. This is
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Speaker 1: not going to be the only payment. And the other
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Speaker 1: part of this understanding of these quote loans is the
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Speaker 1: White House is describing it away. The Biden crime family
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Speaker 1: is describing away. Joe Biden's brother, Jim Biden, is far
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Speaker 1: more wealthy on paper, than Joe Biden has ever been
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Speaker 1: Jimmy all right, Jim Biden, the President's brother, is a lobbyist,
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Speaker 1: That's what he is. He's a foreign agent that never registered,
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Speaker 1: That's what he is. He's had millions and millions and
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Speaker 1: millions and millions coming into.
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Speaker 2: His bank account.
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Speaker 1: Did the President's brother, Jim Biden need two hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars from Joe?
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Speaker 2: Was he down and out?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 1: And the other thing is is think about two hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars loan, personal loan. Jim Biden had plenty of cash.
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Speaker 1: Jim Biden had plenty of connections with banking. We know
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Speaker 1: that Jim Biden could have gone to any bank gotten
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Speaker 1: a loan for two hundred thousand dollars if he actually
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Speaker 1: needed two hundred thousand dollars. He didn't need two undred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. This was money laundering. This is how the
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Speaker 1: mob does money laundering. This is all the earmarks of
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Speaker 1: of laundering cash to the President of the United States
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Speaker 1: of America. Now the documentation that you would need to
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Speaker 1: prove that you have this many loans happening on a
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Speaker 1: regular basis, right, where hey, I need two hundred thousand, No, problem, brother,
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Speaker 1: I'll send it to you right now. Hey, I need
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Speaker 1: another one hundred and fifty one eighty. I need four
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Speaker 1: hundred form a guy that has more money than you do.
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Speaker 1: If Jim Biden called Joe Biden said hey, brother, I
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Speaker 1: need to borrow two undre k in a real world,
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Speaker 1: you'd be like, hey, man, why you're richer than I am?
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Speaker 1: Why do you need me to give you a measly
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Speaker 1: two hundred Because to Jim Biden, two hundred thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: is not allow of money. Because Jim Biden is rich,
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Speaker 1: richer than the president has ever been on paper. Could
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Speaker 1: he get loans if he needed loans for two hundred thousand,
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Speaker 1: of course he could. This isn't a loan, folks, this
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Speaker 1: is money laundering. This is the ten percent for the
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Speaker 1: big guy money. And you need to share it because
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Speaker 1: the media will not cover this. We have payments to
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Speaker 1: a sitting president that compromises our national security, It compromises
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Speaker 1: our country, it compromises the presidency. A compromise is this
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Speaker 1: entire family to blackmail, and we have proof of it. Now,
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Speaker 1: I promise you we're going to keep following this issue,
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Speaker 1: and there's going to be a hell of a lot
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Speaker 1: that comes out of the next few weeks, and make
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Speaker 1: know and don't miss an episode.
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Speaker 2: On the Biden Crime Family.
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Speaker 1: Now, I want to pivot to some other big news
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Speaker 1: the day, and I want to bring in a good
10:20
Speaker 1: friend of mine, Bill O'Reilly. He's got a new book
10:23
Speaker 1: that is out Killing the Witches. It's going to be
10:26
Speaker 1: another bestseller for him. He does this series, it's incredible,
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Speaker 1: But I want to talk about some of.
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Speaker 2: The big issues of the day.
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Speaker 1: Bill, as a pleasure. I love having you on. I
10:34
Speaker 1: love having you on when your books come out. I
10:37
Speaker 1: want to ask you a question though, about the coverage
10:40
Speaker 1: that the media has been putting out there about this
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Speaker 1: attack on this hospital in Israel. They all got it wrong.
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Speaker 1: The headlines show just how anti Semitic they are BBC, CNN,
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Speaker 1: NBC News, MSNBC. They're all out there New York Times
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Speaker 1: saying Israel bomb a hospital.
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Speaker 2: They didn't.
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Speaker 1: The hospital wasn't even directly hit. There was not five
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Speaker 1: hundred dead, four hundred dead, three hundred dead. Yet they're
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Speaker 1: not retracting their stories. You ever, she'd Talib, who's out
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Speaker 1: there in DC yesterday, getting all this anti semitism fired up,
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Speaker 1: saying that they bombed the hospital, even after she knows
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Speaker 1: she's lying.
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Speaker 2: And yet we have.
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Speaker 1: A media that is still saying, well, it's not you know, Okay,
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Speaker 1: maybe they didn't do it. However, it could have happened
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Speaker 1: by Israel. So it wasn't that crazy to go down
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Speaker 1: this road. It wasn't that nuts to say they probably
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Speaker 1: did it, even though they didn't do it. I've never
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Speaker 1: seen so much anti semitism come from the media at
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Speaker 1: one time.
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Speaker 2: Your reaction.
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Speaker 5: I did the Message of the Day on Billowilly dot
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Speaker 5: com and we would love to have your listeners go
11:47
Speaker 5: there every day and I have a message you can
11:52
Speaker 5: read it. It's free, and this on this topic. So
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Speaker 5: it's more about incompetence and anti semitism in the corporate
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Speaker 5: media America. They don't know what they're doing. I was
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Speaker 5: on News Nation last night with Chris Cuomo, and I
12:05
Speaker 5: spelled out every major news organization that misreported the hospital story.
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Speaker 5: And they're the biggest offree networks, AP, New York Times,
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Speaker 5: Washington Post. These people that run these news operations number
12:19
Speaker 5: one are almost one hundred percent leftists. And I don't
12:23
Speaker 5: say that, you know, people go, oh, you're you know,
12:25
Speaker 5: liberal people are bet and that's not what I'm doing here.
12:28
Speaker 5: I know who's running these operations. So number one, they
12:32
Speaker 5: are liberal people. They don't have a favorable view generally
12:36
Speaker 5: speaking of Israel. But the biggest problem is they don't
12:40
Speaker 5: know what they're doing. They don't know how to report
12:43
Speaker 5: stories when the facts are foggy. You can do it.
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Speaker 5: All you got to do is so simple. You have
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Speaker 5: to say, there's a hospital in Gaza that was hit
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Speaker 5: by a rocket. Those are the initial reports we're getting.
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Speaker 5: Both sides are accusing the other. That's it. You don't
13:05
Speaker 5: need to take one side. Everybody knows that anything out
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Speaker 5: coming out of Gaza is coming out of Hamask because
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Speaker 5: Hamas runs Gaza. But they don't do that. And then
13:17
Speaker 5: you have this area now on a political front. Last
13:20
Speaker 5: night on the Nospinoos and that's on Billoreilly dot com,
13:23
Speaker 5: that's our TV broadcast, I said, look, any congress person,
13:27
Speaker 5: whether it's to Leeb or Omar or Cossio quite anybody
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Speaker 5: who is misreporting what's happening in Israel and Gaza should
13:37
Speaker 5: be then brought in front of the House Ethics Committee
13:40
Speaker 5: because what they're doing is fostering violence, and that would
13:47
Speaker 5: put an end to this. So I put to leave
13:50
Speaker 5: and today an ethics investigation in the house on her nick,
13:56
Speaker 5: because we got to stop this madness. Man, you know that.
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Speaker 1: Look at what she said yesterday afternoon as there were
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Speaker 1: people getting arrested. I was in DC and it was
14:05
Speaker 1: it was incredibly hostile. You had people basically been barding
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Speaker 1: into house office buildings. You had people arrested as they
14:12
Speaker 1: were occupying. Uh that the chambers out, you know, in
14:16
Speaker 1: the in the in the rotunda. Don't worry, there won't
14:18
Speaker 1: be a January sixth investigation in this. This is normal.
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Speaker 1: But she sobbed out there when she lied, knowing that
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Speaker 1: this story she was telling is a lie. She's a
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Speaker 1: propagandist for Hamas. Here's what she said, in her own words.
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Speaker 6: I think it's okay to Obama hospital.
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Speaker 2: With children.
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Speaker 6: You know what's so hard sometimes is watching those videos
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Speaker 6: and and the people telling the kids don't cry, and
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Speaker 6: like let them.
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Speaker 1: Cry, and they're shaking, and somebody you know this, the
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Speaker 1: kids telling them not to cry in Arabic, they could cry.
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Speaker 2: I could cry.
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Speaker 6: If we're not crying, something is wrong.
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Speaker 1: And so I'm.
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Speaker 2: Telling you right now, President Biden, go to.
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Speaker 7: Have America's with you on this one, and you need
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Speaker 7: to make it and understand that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you hear that Bill. She knows everything she's
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Speaker 1: saying right, there's a lie. She knows it's all propaganda,
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Speaker 1: and yet she's doing it anyway.
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Speaker 5: Well, then she should be the subject of a House
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Speaker 5: Ethics and kitchen. Republicans control the House, they can make
15:30
Speaker 5: that happen in a fingersnap. And the other thing is
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Speaker 5: the people in her district keep voting her back in.
15:38
Speaker 5: Was it the only avenue to punish this woman is
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Speaker 5: the Ethics Committee in the House. That's it.
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Speaker 1: You look at where we are in the world. You
15:47
Speaker 1: look at what's happening in Germany right now. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of protests that are happening there, chaos in many
15:54
Speaker 1: cities over last night, major protests happening anti Israel protests.
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Speaker 1: Is this a moment in our history where you go,
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Speaker 1: did we learn nothing from the Holocaust?
16:05
Speaker 2: And also did we learn nothing?
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Speaker 4: Bill?
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Speaker 1: From nine to eleven? And I say that because we
16:09
Speaker 1: have a wide open border. We have I mean wide
16:12
Speaker 1: open border. Right now, we have more people that been
16:14
Speaker 1: caught on the Tarrists watch list this year than the
16:16
Speaker 1: last five years combined. We have a wide open border.
16:19
Speaker 1: Did we learn nothing from history?
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Speaker 5: Well, obviously the Biden administration has not. They're entirely responsible
16:28
Speaker 5: for the open border. So in the election of twenty four,
16:32
Speaker 5: Joe Biden should not get one vote. He should be
16:35
Speaker 5: shut out if the American voters were rational. But the
16:41
Speaker 5: poison of ideology has seeped into a significant part of
16:46
Speaker 5: our population. And that's what you're seeing. So they don't
16:50
Speaker 5: care about the Holocaust, or they don't care about nine
16:53
Speaker 5: to eleven. They're progressives. Progressives hate Israel, so they're going
16:57
Speaker 5: to hate Israel. I mean, you got to break it
17:00
Speaker 5: down to its simplest component, because that's what it is.
17:02
Speaker 5: These aren't rational people. They don't know anything. You think
17:06
Speaker 5: o Cassio Cortez knows anything? How long? Then you think
17:11
Speaker 5: she could sit for an interview with me.
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Speaker 2: Fifty seconds and the question would be thirty.
17:18
Speaker 5: Of that the first round knockout and it wouldn't even
17:22
Speaker 5: be it would be like a minute and a half. Yeah,
17:25
Speaker 5: she doesn't know anything, but the people in the Bronx
17:30
Speaker 5: voter in and that's just what it is. So There's
17:35
Speaker 5: always been that way in our history. We've always had
17:38
Speaker 5: villains and stupid people elected. And you just have to
17:42
Speaker 5: hope that most voters start to see the light and
17:46
Speaker 5: there's a repudiation of the Democrat progressive movement next this,
17:52
Speaker 5: you know, November twenty fourth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday I was in an elevator with Fetterman in Congress
17:58
Speaker 1: and He's said there in his car heart jacket, and
18:01
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there, going, is this really where we
18:03
Speaker 1: are as a country. We've got this guy who's in
18:05
Speaker 1: the United Country, I mean this, and I'm sitting there
18:08
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him. I'm like, you're and we
18:10
Speaker 1: were chatting, but I'm like, this is who's the United
18:13
Speaker 1: States Senator?
18:13
Speaker 5: Now?
18:14
Speaker 1: Like this is what we've got. This is the best
18:16
Speaker 1: we can send to Washington. Is a guy that's wearing
18:19
Speaker 1: car hearts, that walks the edge of the Senate chamber,
18:21
Speaker 1: looks at the guy at the red desk and does
18:23
Speaker 1: the thumbs down so he didn't even have to walk
18:25
Speaker 1: into the Senate because he doesn't want to put on
18:27
Speaker 1: a suit. It's unbelievable that this is the United States
18:30
Speaker 1: of America right now.
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Speaker 5: Well, people in Pennsylvania voted him in.
18:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's system.
18:36
Speaker 1: Let's talk about history for a second. Another one of
18:39
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18:42
Speaker 1: you're on a roll here. And if you've never gotten
18:45
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18:48
Speaker 1: Killing the Witches the Horrors of Salem, Massachusetts. The timing
18:52
Speaker 1: of this is is pretty interesting right now, especially with
18:55
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18:58
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19:00
Speaker 1: and it's a great book to give, especially during the holidays.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, in Halloween, the best Halloween book ever, with apologies
19:07
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19:09
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19:14
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19:19
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19:23
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19:30
Speaker 5: The witch hunt today is called cancel culture, and the
19:36
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19:42
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19:49
Speaker 5: We're not hanging people anymore, but we were destroying their lives,
19:53
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Speaker 1: This is Nancy Pelosi on CNN a show called State
25:08
Speaker 1: of the Union, and this is what she said about
25:12
Speaker 1: Israel and Gaza at Truce or Consequences. And this was
25:16
Speaker 1: years ago, and here's what she said about Hamas.
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Speaker 6: Listen, war is a deadly thing. And I have many
25:23
Speaker 6: Palestinians who live in my district and I'm hearing from
25:25
Speaker 6: them regularly about how their families are affected who live
25:29
Speaker 6: in the region. It's a terrible thing. But let me
25:31
Speaker 6: just say that any missile that comes from someplace has
25:34
Speaker 6: a return address, and if Israel is responding to that address,
25:40
Speaker 6: then that's a shame that the Palestinians are using a
25:46
Speaker 6: rumor to be using children and families as shields for
25:50
Speaker 6: their missiles. Should we all try to know, first of all,
25:55
Speaker 6: avoid conflict the Hamas initiated this. So again this this
26:00
Speaker 6: has to be something where we try to have the
26:03
Speaker 6: two state solution that we have to support. We have
26:06
Speaker 6: to support a boss and his role as leader there.
26:09
Speaker 6: We have to support arm Doom to protect the Israelis
26:12
Speaker 6: from the missiles. We have to support the Palestinians and
26:14
Speaker 6: what they need. And we have to confer with the
26:16
Speaker 6: Qataris who have told me over and over again that
26:19
Speaker 6: Hamas is a humanitarian organization. Maybe they could use their
26:23
Speaker 6: influence to.
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Speaker 4: Raist organization though correct to you.
26:29
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had that discussion, and.
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Speaker 1: We've had that discussion. Kriteris has told me Hamas is
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Speaker 1: a humanitarian organization, maybe they can use their influence. That
26:43
Speaker 1: was Nancy Pelosi's telling you that Hamas was a humanitarian organization.
26:49
Speaker 1: Son of Hamas leader went on Fox News Channel today
26:54
Speaker 1: to explain Hamas. Okay, this is the son of the
26:57
Speaker 1: Hamas of Hamas leader, and he's saying to the world,
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Speaker 1: you need to understand what this is.
27:03
Speaker 2: You need to understand this is my family. I understand
27:05
Speaker 2: what they are.
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Speaker 1: So you got Pelosi who thought literally Hamas was a
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Speaker 1: humanitarian organization and now listen to the sun of a
27:15
Speaker 1: Hamas leader by the name of Hassan tell you what
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Speaker 1: Hamas actually is.
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Speaker 8: Our next guest grew up on the West Bank, where
27:21
Speaker 8: his father was a founding member of Hamas. He was
27:24
Speaker 8: groomed to take a senior role before he turned on
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Speaker 8: the terrorist group in prison, spying for Israel, now converting
27:30
Speaker 8: into Christianity, and ultimately seeking asylum in the US. Masaba
27:34
Speaker 8: San returns to US now as he came a few
27:36
Speaker 8: years ago, and now we got more than ever a.
27:38
Speaker 8: Masaba's great to see you. We'd love to know the
27:40
Speaker 8: insight of this group and how they were able to
27:43
Speaker 8: pull off what they did October seventh. First, can you
27:46
Speaker 8: tell the audience your background. People that didn't read your book.
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Speaker 7: You know, I was born at the heart of Hamas leadership,
27:53
Speaker 7: you know, and I know them very well. They don't
27:56
Speaker 7: care for the Pristinian people. They don't regard the life.
28:01
Speaker 6: And I saw.
28:02
Speaker 7: Their brutality firsthand back in nineteen ninety six when I
28:06
Speaker 7: spent about a year and a half in Migido prison.
28:09
Speaker 7: You know, they killed so many Palestinian people at that time,
28:11
Speaker 7: and this is when I decided that I cannot be
28:15
Speaker 7: together with this movement. In fact, I asked myself a question,
28:18
Speaker 7: what if they become a ruling party at some point,
28:21
Speaker 7: what will they do if they succeed in destroying Israel
28:24
Speaker 7: and building their state, what will they do? They will
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Speaker 7: kill our people? And this was the first question, you
28:29
Speaker 7: know that Actually I had to be honest with myself.
28:33
Speaker 7: Even though Hamas gave me advantages, you know, I was
28:35
Speaker 7: like a prince in that world. But I did not
28:40
Speaker 7: like them, you know, and I turned against even my
28:44
Speaker 7: own blood, you know, because this is how much I
28:46
Speaker 7: did not like Hamas. And today, twenty five years later,
28:50
Speaker 7: they are the rulers of Gaza, and we see what
28:53
Speaker 7: they are capable of doing.
28:54
Speaker 8: We saw what have it acts over seventh We saw
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Speaker 8: them do what they did to hold cause victims. They
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Speaker 8: now over two hundred hostages, murdered babies in their cribs,
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Speaker 8: and we see the horror of what they're capable of.
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Speaker 8: Now they've retreated back to Gaza and a ground incursion
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Speaker 8: is about to happen. Would you recommend Israel do this?
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Speaker 8: And what would they find when they go in?
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Speaker 7: Okay, First of all, we need to evacuate civilians as
29:21
Speaker 7: much as we can. You know, this is an ugly
29:23
Speaker 7: war and Israel did not start it, Hamas did. First
29:27
Speaker 7: of all, we need to encourage civilians to go into Egypt,
29:30
Speaker 7: possibly women and children, maybe men over fifty years old.
29:34
Speaker 7: These need to get out of the picture, you know.
29:36
Speaker 7: Then the strip need to be cut two pieces north
29:40
Speaker 7: and south, two parts the northern part this is where
29:44
Speaker 7: most of the tunnels are. We need to have a
29:48
Speaker 7: solid siege, okay, for long enough to deplete the enemy
29:53
Speaker 7: and to starve them. After that, we may need to
29:56
Speaker 7: explore using gas. This is like sounds ruble, but I
30:01
Speaker 7: don't see any other option. The tunnels are interconnected and
30:06
Speaker 7: gas could be one of the solutions. But this has
30:09
Speaker 7: to be in the right time. We cannot just rush
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Speaker 7: into Gaza. You know, there is no modern army that
30:15
Speaker 7: is prepared for this type of war. And most importantly,
30:19
Speaker 7: we need to get the civilians out of the picture.
30:22
Speaker 7: As long as there are civilians there, then the operation
30:26
Speaker 7: might be incomplete.
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Speaker 8: For Mussab, you also says it's almost impossible for us
30:31
Speaker 8: to give aid to the Gaza Strip one hundred million
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Speaker 8: dollars We're about to give them and keep it away
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Speaker 8: from Hamas. Don't you you agree that that can't work.
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Speaker 7: Look after we destroy the tunnels, we need to finish
30:48
Speaker 7: Hamas rule in Gaza strip this is priority number one.
30:53
Speaker 7: Then we need to replace the regime, could be the
30:55
Speaker 7: Parisian authority, could be the Egyptian government, could be Arably
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Speaker 7: League force. We need to replace their rule in Gaza.
31:06
Speaker 7: After that we can talk about aid, but as of now,
31:09
Speaker 7: sending any aid is a mistake.
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Speaker 8: So you also believe that this isn't about the Palestinians
31:16
Speaker 8: fighting for their rights and their sovereignty. What is the
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Speaker 8: real mission of Hamas and what do they really think
31:22
Speaker 8: of the Palestinian people.
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Speaker 7: You know, Hamas is not a national movement. Hamas is
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Speaker 7: a religious movement with a goal to establish an Islamic state.
31:34
Speaker 7: They don't care for nationalism. Actually they are against nationalists.
31:38
Speaker 7: But that's it. My understanding that they are using the
31:44
Speaker 7: Palestinian cause only to achieve their goals. So the long
31:48
Speaker 7: term goal, you know, transforming the Middle East and the
31:52
Speaker 7: world into an Islamic state. This is Hamas' agendas and
31:58
Speaker 7: they are not heading.
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Speaker 2: By the way, So.
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Speaker 7: Hamas is serving foreign agendas. We're talking about Iran and
32:06
Speaker 7: we're talking about Russia lately, Hamas serve those parties and
32:13
Speaker 7: Iran takes them close to a billion dollars annually. Iran
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Speaker 7: is the real master in this picture. Hamas does not
32:22
Speaker 7: serve the Personian people. Hamas serve Iran. Those are the
32:25
Speaker 7: masters of Hamas. So they lie about nationalism that they
32:31
Speaker 7: are a national movement and they care for the Personian people.
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Speaker 2: Look at them.
32:34
Speaker 7: They are using Personian people as a human shield. We
32:37
Speaker 7: need to free Gaza from Hamas. This is what Israel
32:40
Speaker 7: is doing, is doing the Palestinian people the greatest fever
32:43
Speaker 7: by bringing Hamas down. Then the Personian people they just
32:49
Speaker 7: want to live a normal life. They don't want missiles
32:51
Speaker 7: in the most populated area on Earth to be launched
32:55
Speaker 7: from under hospitals, from crowded areas and going source idol
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Speaker 7: and endangering the life of the entire population.
33:04
Speaker 2: Who does that.
33:05
Speaker 7: You've got to be insane to do such an operation, right.
33:08
Speaker 2: And you're talking about your family. They used to have
33:11
Speaker 2: to Your.
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Speaker 8: Family used to believe that, and you used to believe
33:13
Speaker 8: that that was okay. But you don't. Musab now quickly
33:17
Speaker 8: at the question. Around the globe and even in our capital,
33:21
Speaker 8: people are protesting for Hamas. Uh they're saying for the
33:25
Speaker 8: Israel to back off and stop with the air strikes. Well,
33:28
Speaker 8: what do you say to those protesters? What is it
33:30
Speaker 8: about their mindset?
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Speaker 7: Okay, listen, I cannot convince the entire world of truth
33:39
Speaker 7: right now. People are emotional. They hate to see children dying,
33:44
Speaker 7: even though you know Hamas is killing the people at
33:45
Speaker 7: the hospital and we have evidence of that, but they
33:48
Speaker 7: still blame Israel. People can't blame whoever they want, you know.
33:51
Speaker 7: But now we have to concentrate. We have to focus.
33:54
Speaker 7: Public opinion is very important, but unfortunately it's not the
33:59
Speaker 7: time to win the public opinion. It's the time to
34:02
Speaker 7: win the war against the most brutal terrorist organization living today.
34:07
Speaker 7: You know, and later on when people look back at
34:10
Speaker 7: the situation, they will understand what we were doing. We
34:13
Speaker 7: should not be afraid of the public opinion. We have
34:16
Speaker 7: to explain as much as we can, and you're doing
34:18
Speaker 7: that now. We have to concentrate on our goals.
34:21
Speaker 8: And Masab, that's why your perspective is so vital.
34:25
Speaker 1: This is a man who is in Hamas, groomed to
34:29
Speaker 1: be a leader in Hamas, whose father leader of Humas,
34:31
Speaker 1: who left his own family, and he's telling you this
34:34
Speaker 1: is who Amas is Believe him. When the Jihadis tell
34:40
Speaker 1: you who they are, Believe them. When the Jihadis explain
34:45
Speaker 1: to you what they what they are, just no, just
34:48
Speaker 1: take them for their actions. When the Jihadis show you
34:51
Speaker 1: what they do and what they believe, and that they
34:53
Speaker 1: will behead children and women and take people Holocausts survivors,
34:58
Speaker 1: and will be head infant, believe them. And yet you
35:02
Speaker 1: have a president of the United States of America is
35:04
Speaker 1: going to hold America hostage saying I'll give you some
35:06
Speaker 1: money for some good stuff like border security if you
35:09
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35:11
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