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Educator Dr. Steve Perry is Founder of five Capital Preparatory Schools providing high-quality education with college-bound opportunities for children in poverty · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: guest is truly an industry decision makers. Dr Steve Perry,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor PARR, is a national leader in the education revolution,
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  Speaker 1: a change agent who is tireless in his fights for
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  Speaker 1: providing equal and competitive opportunities for children who otherwise will
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  Speaker 1: not have a voice. His mission is to provide high
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  Speaker 1: quality education with college bound opportunities for children in poverty.
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  Speaker 1: In Dr Steve Perry opened his fifth school campus in Bronx,
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  Speaker 1: New York, and all students are admitted to the schools
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  Speaker 1: by random lottery in order to ensure equal access to
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  Speaker 1: all students regardless of socio economic status academic history. Dr
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  Speaker 1: Steve Perry's mission is to provide historically disadvantaged students with
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  Speaker 1: the college and career readiness skills needed to become responsible,
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  Speaker 1: engage citizens for social justice and offering a rigorous college
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  Speaker 1: prof curriculum and the collective variety of athletic programs, project
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  Speaker 1: based learning, and multi prong faculty support. Please work with
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  Speaker 1: the money making conversation. Dear friend by man, Dr Steve Perry,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing, sir? Having the time of my life? Brother?
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  Speaker 1: Really genuinely, I am and forgive me. I am in
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  Speaker 1: Harlem so you will hear the sounds of the city.
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  Speaker 1: I have no control over that, well, the sounds of
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  Speaker 1: the city. If you're New York. I always tell people
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  Speaker 1: like I think basically seven million people living New York
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  Speaker 1: proper in Manhattan proper, and on a given day, seven
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  Speaker 1: to eight million will enter New York. So you can
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  Speaker 1: look at from Twitter to fifteen million people on that island.
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  Speaker 1: So when you say noise in New York, I say, okay, right,
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  Speaker 1: I have to say that everybody as familiar with our
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  Speaker 1: home as as you are, so, uh, you you know
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  Speaker 1: from your time here at the Apollo that this is
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  Speaker 1: allowed little place we know. It's like Steve Erry, it's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting that you know New York. I moved to
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  Speaker 1: New York like an eight first time I went up
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  Speaker 1: to New York and lived there, and it was in transition.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I couldn't catch a cab if I was
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  Speaker 1: in Lower New York to come to If you say
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  Speaker 1: you're going across the hundred fiftree, they wasn't gonna you
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  Speaker 1: being were convicted and and then we then we transitioned
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  Speaker 1: And then you look at New York a hundred street
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  Speaker 1: and white people at two am are walking their dogs.
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  Speaker 1: And so this morning trip tripping me out, like it's
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  Speaker 1: just really tripping me out. And so would you in there? Now?
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  Speaker 1: What is why is it important? Because we're talking a
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  Speaker 1: different hall of now, not the hall of my new
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  Speaker 1: not the hall of you reading the newspaper? What hall
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  Speaker 1: of are you working in? Now? What's the environment of
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  Speaker 1: hall that you're tied to? Now? That's that's interesting, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I am Our school is currently located on a hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fourth and fifth Avenue, which, if you know anything
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  Speaker 1: about New York, is right across the street from Central Park.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I can see the botanical garden right outside
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  Speaker 1: my window. And um, excuse me. We are on what's
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  Speaker 1: called a museum mile, which is just what you just
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  Speaker 1: aptly named. Behind me is the African American Museum. Beneath
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  Speaker 1: me is a musel all the way down to the
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  Speaker 1: Museum of Natural History. So this area is a gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: area as areas go. Similarly, um, you are seeing a
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  Speaker 1: conversion of the Brownstones purchased by mainly. Uh, we can't
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  Speaker 1: just be middle class, you gotta be upper middle as
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  Speaker 1: to wealthy folks, many of whom appear to be white, um.
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  Speaker 1: And for them, Harlem is a place of a cultural experience.
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  Speaker 1: They come, many of them come to be immersed in
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  Speaker 1: what they believed to be the culture of Harlem. But
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  Speaker 1: there's still that group right over there in the Union
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  Speaker 1: housing projects, which is on the other block. So again,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not from New York, what I'm explaining to
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  Speaker 1: you would seem unconscionable that so much happens in in
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  Speaker 1: so few square feet. But in the h two yards
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  Speaker 1: that this block is. On one side you have some
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  Speaker 1: of the wealthiest real estate arguably in America, and then
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  Speaker 1: just two yards on the other side you have a
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  Speaker 1: couple of housing projects, um. And then then the other
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  Speaker 1: high you have a new high rise. So butchers between these,
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  Speaker 1: uh are stuck between these two pretty expensive pieces of property,
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  Speaker 1: you have housing projects and rant controlled places. One of
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  Speaker 1: my colleagues lives in approximately, I want to be polite, ex.
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  Speaker 1: Seven hundred square feet. It feels like five d seven
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  Speaker 1: hundred s graare feet efficiency and she pays twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: that's my right, that's right. So you're not scaring me
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  Speaker 1: with those numbers. See I that was in the five
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  Speaker 1: hundred square feet and I was happy. I was happy.
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  Speaker 1: But but but so that's what it looks like. But
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  Speaker 1: what I worked with, I worked with some of the
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  Speaker 1: poorest kids in America. I worked with some, um, some
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  Speaker 1: of the most talented, beautiful, awesome, poor black Latin children.
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  Speaker 1: UM who wow around them? There is uh call it renaissance.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know as you call it a renaissance. We're
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  Speaker 1: not going backwards, um, but it is a a resetting
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  Speaker 1: on I don't know if you remember what the path
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  Speaker 1: mark used to be that place, Yeah, so the path
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  Speaker 1: mark used which is just which is just a block
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  Speaker 1: away from, um, the train station. That building was just
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  Speaker 1: torn down. They're about to build They're about to be
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, a very very very nice uh set up there. However,
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  Speaker 1: on the ground level, it's like the Land of the Dead.
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  Speaker 1: Bunch of zombie people walking up and down looked, it's rough.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're homeless, I don't I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: know what they do at night, so I can only
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  Speaker 1: see what they do during the day. Um. But people
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  Speaker 1: who most would consider or believed to be homeless, are
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  Speaker 1: walking um and stacked. Uh just in the shadow of this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the thing about it is that to make
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  Speaker 1: people understand the relatability of what he's saying, is that
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  Speaker 1: because I lived in New York three times, and what
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  Speaker 1: always threw me off was that you can't walk from
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  Speaker 1: wealthy to poverty in a block. I mean, you can
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  Speaker 1: walk on the same block. Is the same way whereas
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  Speaker 1: in if you're a traditional city, you drive to it.
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  Speaker 1: You drive, you drive to a housing project in New
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  Speaker 1: York City, you walk past it. You know, you you
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  Speaker 1: walk past the doorman who secured building, and you go
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  Speaker 1: there's a right there, that building right there as a security.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the condos in there and they have
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  Speaker 1: to start in the load ones millions like right there
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  Speaker 1: and right there, separated by two hundred uh two in
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  Speaker 1: the yards is public housing that just separates. Just that's
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  Speaker 1: what it is. And so it is a tale of
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  Speaker 1: they they never seem to understand one another. And my
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  Speaker 1: children don't often understand. I have explained it, like do
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  Speaker 1: Do you know people call this? No, it's the museum mile,
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  Speaker 1: like this is one of the wealth. Like this stretch
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  Speaker 1: So we're talking about the kind of wealth that's jaw
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  Speaker 1: dropping ship right there, and the kind of poverty that's
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  Speaker 1: equally jaw dropping. And here we are in the middle
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  Speaker 1: attempting to carve a new door. Because, as you know,
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  Speaker 1: to the back door now and there is no back door,
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  Speaker 1: when he gets there, he will cut one for himself.
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  Speaker 1: M hmmm. So we're trying to teach our children to
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  Speaker 1: go through a different door, really, the children and parents simultaneously.
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  Speaker 1: We've been doing this for a long time. Do you
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  Speaker 1: ever get what what frustrates you about the process of
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  Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. What really frustrates me, uh
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  Speaker 1: and really trips me out is that I thought we'd
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  Speaker 1: be done by now. Honestly, I thought when I thought
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  Speaker 1: when charter school started to open and we were able
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  Speaker 1: to show that you could take the same Black children,
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  Speaker 1: same Latin children, in the same address, from the same
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  Speaker 1: families and put them in a different school and those
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  Speaker 1: children would be able to read on grade level, right
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  Speaker 1: on grade level, do math on grade level, go to
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  Speaker 1: college at the rates anywhere from ninety upon graduation. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I told you you canna hear us um it is.
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  Speaker 1: I figured this country, and for what it's worth, the
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  Speaker 1: president who got us started down that road was President
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  Speaker 1: Bush too, but the person who really kicked it into
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  Speaker 1: um full gear was President Obama. So I figured, as
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  Speaker 1: soon as we show that you can take children from
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  Speaker 1: wherever they come and help them ascend to the highest
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  Speaker 1: highs that I mean both sides of our I figured
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  Speaker 1: maybe the Republicans of triped because they're not as committed
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  Speaker 1: to black and brown people as the Democrats say they are,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe there'll be some rub there. But other than that,
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  Speaker 1: we should be cool because their freedom loving people, and
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  Speaker 1: they want the freedom of school choice. That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 1: I could not be more wrong. The Democrats have been
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  Speaker 1: the most ardent opponents of the very escape route that
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  Speaker 1: we need to use to get out of the poverty
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  Speaker 1: that in many cases there policies have plunged us into. Sadly,
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  Speaker 1: the Republicans are so uh in apt around issues of
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  Speaker 1: class and race that anything that comes out of their
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  Speaker 1: mouths people think is racist, even when they're making headway
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  Speaker 1: and policies of school choice. So what frustrates me is
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  Speaker 1: that I find myself with these lying politicians all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they get on my nerves. I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: replying to you. Just some of them are people who
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  Speaker 1: I know, like friends, people in my house. It is.
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  Speaker 1: It is a peculiar paradox that I find myself in
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  Speaker 1: because I you know, I just didn't walk through and
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  Speaker 1: one of our schools here in Harlem and had to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tighten up some kids about not being a
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  Speaker 1: uniform the way that's supposed to be doing that very
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  Speaker 1: micro thing. But then from there I have to have
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  Speaker 1: a macro conversation with the legislator about something that's just
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  Speaker 1: it's just foolish, man. I don't even it sickens me
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  Speaker 1: that we're still having these conversations. It is. And I
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  Speaker 1: might add where I really, really, really really really was
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  Speaker 1: wrong was I felt like if I, as a black
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  Speaker 1: man committed to the black community, came to members of
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  Speaker 1: the black community and I'm being completely transparent because you're
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  Speaker 1: my god, I felt like I would be able to
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  Speaker 1: get from black legislators, um, black wealthy people the kind
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  Speaker 1: of support that our children need and let me be clear,
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  Speaker 1: they're not putting any money in my pocket. They're not
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  Speaker 1: increasing my salary. They don't make my house bigger at all. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: when they give money to us, when they create legislation
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  Speaker 1: that creates more opportunities for schools like ours to open,
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  Speaker 1: my salary does not move, you know, despite my wife's
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  Speaker 1: interest and son's interest in my salary moving. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: one of my sons, one of my sons, goes to
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  Speaker 1: school with a person who runs a large charter network
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  Speaker 1: and she makes a considerable amount more than I do.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, he said, see me all time. Do
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  Speaker 1: you ever get frustrated by that? I don't. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get into this that I got in because I feel
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  Speaker 1: so blessed to be a part of our children's lives.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe that God wakes me up all the
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  Speaker 1: people others. I'm telling you, I can't and you know this,
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  Speaker 1: and this is what we talked about. When there's no
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  Speaker 1: cameras on, nobody watching, there's no bs anything, I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe that God wakes this to uh it part of
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  Speaker 1: like I just like in this way, it's just the
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  Speaker 1: most awesome experience. So, I mean, do I enjoy earning
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  Speaker 1: a living. I do, but I want to make it clear.
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  Speaker 1: And and and if I made sixty billion dollars doing
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  Speaker 1: it because I help kids, would that be a bad thing?
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  Speaker 1: Be people who do great things? But that's not what happens.
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  Speaker 1: What actually happens is when they give money, when they
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  Speaker 1: create legislation, it presents opportunities for us to be able
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  Speaker 1: to serve more children. What that means is I can
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  Speaker 1: hire more peak, but who can create more classrooms so
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  Speaker 1: that we can have more children? That's it, Dr Perry.
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  Speaker 1: When we talk about the five schools that you have,
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  Speaker 1: this is from my audience who's listening and who also
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  Speaker 1: are watching, And basically, what is the attendance size of
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  Speaker 1: the school? What is the age rain of the curriculum
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  Speaker 1: schacle the new one that you have and in the bronx,
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  Speaker 1: how does that work? Because we know about the lottery
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  Speaker 1: system to get in. Are they all located in the
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  Speaker 1: New York Connecticut area? Where they located these five schools
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  Speaker 1: they are? Thank you so much for asking a u
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  Speaker 1: thoughtful question like that, because most people don't um. So
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  Speaker 1: we have we have two sites in Connecticut and Bridgeport.
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  Speaker 1: We actually three, So I went in Hartford. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: affiliated with that one anymore. I'll explain to you at
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  Speaker 1: a moment um that was the first school. And then um,
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  Speaker 1: we have two sites in Bridgeport, Connecticut and they're about
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  Speaker 1: four hundred apiece. And then we have uh in horror
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  Speaker 1: Um we have one that will be about eight hundred,
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  Speaker 1: and then we have one in the Bronx that will
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  Speaker 1: be about eight hun So the one we did in
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  Speaker 1: Hartford is what was around eight hundreds, so, and then
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  Speaker 1: some of them are broken into multiple sites. So that's
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  Speaker 1: where the numbers are. Roughly three thousand m look and
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  Speaker 1: so when you when you reach them, there's a's three
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  Speaker 1: thousand students that because you you can the hard student,
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  Speaker 1: poverty driven students, so three thousand students that you're given
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  Speaker 1: a different way of life. They wouldn't have that different
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  Speaker 1: way of life academically if you didn't have a vision
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  Speaker 1: or feel blessed to get up. It's not about the money.
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  Speaker 1: it is that you know, we we the television round
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  Speaker 1: has been made available to you. You just did the
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  Speaker 1: Fix My Life episode series, Uh last season? Where is
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  Speaker 1: that in your life? Is being on television a need priority?
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  Speaker 1: Or what's going on in your life from a television perspective?
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  Speaker 1: Dr Stephen, You know, television for me is a vehicle
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  Speaker 1: to tell the story of the work that we're doing
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  Speaker 1: in the community, as you know, and what your viewers
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  Speaker 1: are getting access to is the kind of conversation that
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  Speaker 1: you and I have had two or three hundred times.
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  Speaker 1: turn them down. It's not my thing, but my focus
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  Speaker 1: is primarily on running the schools. I know that's crazy
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  Speaker 1: for some people who whose air is to be seen
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  Speaker 1: by people, but I know that there's another side to that,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a cost to that as well as you
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  Speaker 1: well know. And you can't undring that bell. Uh So,
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  Speaker 1: I am so grateful to uh Ayana and Oprah for
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity and the opportunities. You also know this. You
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  Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen with televisions. So the conversation
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  Speaker 1: is I'll put it this way, and you know you
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  Speaker 1: What I'm trying to save the kids, and that's usually
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  Speaker 1: talk to mine like that sometimes, but not everybody else's.
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  Speaker 1: I say all that to say, one of the challenges
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  Speaker 1: That's I'm just not, never have been, never will be. Um,
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