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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:00Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz week in Review, Ben
- 0:03Speaker 2: Ferguson with you, and here are some of the stories
- 0:05Speaker 2: that you may have missed that we talked about this
- 0:07Speaker 2: past week. First up, Elon Musk becomes enemy number one
- 0:12Speaker 2: by the Democrats. Why because he's successful and it becomes
- 0:16Speaker 2: the first trillionaire in the world's history. So what do
- 0:19Speaker 2: they want to do. Well, they want to steal all
- 0:21Speaker 2: his money, and we break that down for you. Also,
- 0:24Speaker 2: a big election night result in Georgia and what does
- 0:27Speaker 2: it mean looking ahead to the midterms. We break it
- 0:30Speaker 2: down for you. And finally, a bill that is actually
- 0:33Speaker 2: moving through Congress that is now quite possibly going to
- 0:37Speaker 2: save college sports forever. It's the Weekend Review and it
- 0:41Speaker 2: starts right now. By the way, that's the liberals are
- 0:45Speaker 2: all they're going to hear from the show. I want
- 0:46Speaker 2: to be very clear. Twenty minutes in, is you said
- 0:49Speaker 2: that Elon must it be carved into Mount Rushmore, that
- 0:52Speaker 2: will be the headline.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I just want to predict that right now, but keep going.
- 0:54Speaker 3: It may well be. Although what I said is that
- 0:57Speaker 3: if the leftists believed what they said, they should carve
- 1:00Speaker 3: itv they should be doing to do because there is
- 1:03Speaker 3: literally no human being who has existed in the history
- 1:06Speaker 3: of humanity who has done more for electric vehicles than
- 1:10Speaker 3: Elon Musk. But you know what, they hate him now
- 1:13Speaker 3: you know how he could change that. Do you know
- 1:16Speaker 3: whose wealth they're not calling to confiscate George Soros?
- 1:20Speaker 1: Oh, of course not.
- 1:21Speaker 3: No, no, if you're a lam artist, if you pay,
- 1:24Speaker 3: he's a massive billionaire. By the way, he made his
- 1:26Speaker 3: money on arbitraging currency, on essentially betting and bankrupting lots
- 1:31Speaker 3: of people. He made his money in a very very
- 1:34Speaker 3: cynical way, shorting the British pound and causing enormous devastation.
- 1:39Speaker 3: That's quite different from how Elon made his money building
- 1:43Speaker 3: companies that employ thousands of thousands of people, innovating and
- 1:46Speaker 3: transph forming the world. But you know what, the Left
- 1:49Speaker 3: loves George Soros because he funds their Marxist ideology.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Look a look at Plattner, who we've talked about.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Platner's biggest donors are four different multi billionaires, and they'll
- 2:00Speaker 2: sit up there saying the oligark no oligarchs is on
- 2:03Speaker 2: their sign, and those signs are literally being paid for
- 2:06Speaker 2: by billionaires.
- 2:07Speaker 1: That's like hypocrisy. One I won.
- 2:09Speaker 3: And by the way, Bernie Sanders and AOC's No Oligo
- 2:13Speaker 3: Gark Tour, they flew in private jets from stop to
- 2:15Speaker 3: stop to stop. So you get off your private jet
- 2:18Speaker 3: and say, oligarchs are terrible. Yeah, And I don't know
- 2:21Speaker 3: if you saw it was very funny. But Bernie was
- 2:23Speaker 3: doing an interview h and asked, well, well, Bernie, how
- 2:27Speaker 3: did you become a millionaire? And he said, oh, by
- 2:30Speaker 3: writing anti capitalist books, which so he.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Was capitalism caused him to become a millionaire, which he
- 2:37Speaker 2: was writing books against.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Look, there's a principle here that I think is really
- 2:42Speaker 3: important for folks listening to Verdict to understand. The beauty
- 2:45Speaker 3: of free enterprise is the way you succeed is by
- 2:49Speaker 3: making others succeed. Let's take Tesla as an example. If
- 2:54Speaker 3: Elon made crappy cars, they didn't work, they were ugly,
- 2:59Speaker 3: if they were slow, they broke down a lot. Nobody
- 3:03Speaker 3: would buy them. And you know what, if nobody buys
- 3:06Speaker 3: his cars, he doesn't make any money. He goes broke.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Like free enterprises is ruthlessly efficient. If you can't solve
- 3:13Speaker 3: a problem and improve people's lives, not only do you
- 3:16Speaker 3: not make money you had a business, how do you
- 3:17Speaker 3: make a ton of money? You make a product people
- 3:20Speaker 3: like that is better than the alternatives in the market
- 3:23Speaker 3: that people are willing to pay for and they're happy for.
- 3:26Speaker 3: You look at whether it is SpaceX, whether it is Xai,
- 3:31Speaker 3: whether it is Starlink, whether it is Tesla, whether it
- 3:35Speaker 3: is the Boring Company. The Boring Company is just getting started.
- 3:38Speaker 3: But the ability to build tunnels, I think that's another
- 3:41Speaker 3: one that he's filling a knee that doesn't exist in
- 3:46Speaker 3: the market. And I think for those who in terms
- 3:50Speaker 3: of connecting, say a busy downtown where there's a ton
- 3:53Speaker 3: of traffic, the ability to tunnel down and suddenly double
- 3:57Speaker 3: your usable space, that is a trend insormational technology. Now, Ben,
- 4:01Speaker 3: do you remember why he created the Borington Company?
- 4:05Speaker 1: Why was that?
- 4:07Speaker 3: Because Elon has a unifying theme with all of his
- 4:10Speaker 3: companies and it is going to Mars. He's filling a
- 4:16Speaker 3: knee that doesn't exist in the market, and I think
- 4:19Speaker 3: for those who in terms of connecting, say a busy
- 4:23Speaker 3: downtown where there's a ton of traffic, the ability to
- 4:26Speaker 3: tunnel down and suddenly double your usable space, that is
- 4:30Speaker 3: a transformational technology. Now, Ben, do you remember why he
- 4:34Speaker 3: created the Borington Company.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Why was that?
- 4:38Speaker 3: Because Elon has a unifying theme with all of his companies,
- 4:43Speaker 3: and it is going to Mars, and.
- 4:47Speaker 1: He is focused.
- 4:48Speaker 2: When we interviewed him, we talked about this, him saying
- 4:51Speaker 2: getting a person to Mars was like a life dream
- 4:54Speaker 2: goal of his.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Look, not just getting a person to Mars, building a
- 4:59Speaker 3: civilization on Mars. Because unlike the Marxists who have all
- 5:03Speaker 3: of these apocalyptic language about how climate change is going
- 5:07Speaker 3: to destroy us, mind you, their solution is so put
- 5:10Speaker 3: us in charge of your life, let us be dictators
- 5:13Speaker 3: because of climate change. Elon solution is okay. Elon's solution
- 5:17Speaker 3: is okay, if the Earth is going to be destroyed,
- 5:20Speaker 3: I don't know if it is or not, but if
- 5:21Speaker 3: it's going to be, let's go build a new civilization.
- 5:24Speaker 3: And that's what he's working to do in each of
- 5:25Speaker 3: his companies. Look, SpaceX Starship is designed to actually get
- 5:29Speaker 3: us to Mars. Not just get humans to Mars, but
- 5:33Speaker 3: get enough equipment, get enough materials that we could build
- 5:35Speaker 3: a civilization. Tesla electric vehicles are designed to power transport
- 5:41Speaker 3: on Mars. The Boring Company is designed because to build
- 5:44Speaker 3: a civilization. To build a city on Mars, you need
- 5:46Speaker 3: to dig tunnels, and so there wasn't nobody was doing that,
- 5:50Speaker 3: and so he built a whole company to do that.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Xai the Ai will be needed to build the Mars civilization.
- 5:56Speaker 3: We asked him in the interview, said what do you
- 5:59Speaker 3: want to be remembered for? And he said and he said,
- 6:02Speaker 3: getting mankind to Mars. And I asked him, I said,
- 6:05Speaker 3: I said, do you want to die on Mars? And
- 6:10Speaker 3: he said yes.
- 6:11Speaker 2: And there is no one paused, by the way, which
- 6:13Speaker 2: was really funny. He said on Mars, not getting to Mars, right,
- 6:16Speaker 2: there was anyone to distinguish that very clearly if I remember.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Right well what he said. What he said is yes,
- 6:21Speaker 3: hopefully not on impact, yes, which I thought was was
- 6:25Speaker 3: quite good. And that Look, that's how you innovate with capitalism.
- 6:31Speaker 3: You create a solution. And what is the reaction to
- 6:35Speaker 3: the left. It is envy. And we've heard Bernie Sanders,
- 6:39Speaker 3: we heard Elizabeth Warren. I want you to listen to
- 6:40Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel uh to really embody the leftist envy and contempt.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Give a listen.
- 6:47Speaker 4: First ever trillionaire in the history of the world this man,
- 6:50Speaker 4: our first trillionaire, the richest man in the world, is
- 6:52Speaker 4: also one of the weirdest people we've ever seen.
- 6:55Speaker 3: On this planet.
- 6:56Speaker 4: This obscenely wealthy weirdo has the ability and means to
- 6:59Speaker 4: blow up them if he chooses, and also to put
- 7:02Speaker 4: a lot of other people's money in his pockets.
- 7:04Speaker 2: You listen to that, just just the disdain there. It
- 7:08Speaker 2: is a coordinated effort which goes back to my final
- 7:11Speaker 2: question center, And I'll make a prediction here. I believe
- 7:15Speaker 2: that the Democratic Party, if they gain power again in
- 7:18Speaker 2: the House, Senate, certainly the White House, they will go
- 7:22Speaker 2: after Elon Musk Yes, and every one of his companies
- 7:25Speaker 2: and every one of his government contracts because of what
- 7:28Speaker 2: he did with Doge and the fact that he was
- 7:30Speaker 2: an ally of President Trump. Even though they've had their
- 7:33Speaker 2: own little fights, they will move to destroy him and
- 7:38Speaker 2: make sure that there's no part of our US government
- 7:40Speaker 2: that uses anything that he touches.
- 7:43Speaker 3: You are absolutely right and understand. These are not the
- 7:47Speaker 3: Marxist of the sit in the faculty lounge and muse
- 7:51Speaker 3: abstract theories. These are the Marxists of the Stalinist kind,
- 7:54Speaker 3: of the kind that go and crush their enemies. If
- 7:58Speaker 3: the left takes over, If if AOC or Gavin Newsom
- 8:01Speaker 3: or some other leftist becomes president, you will see every
- 8:05Speaker 3: single federal government agency weaponized and targeting Elon Musk. You
- 8:11Speaker 3: will see them denying him licenses to launch satellites, denying him,
- 8:15Speaker 3: canceling his contracts, the EPA shutting down his launches, Tesla,
- 8:20Speaker 3: being investigated by OSHA, by the I R. S. Elon personally.
- 8:24Speaker 3: They will make it their mission. This cannot stand, is
- 8:28Speaker 3: what Bernie said. They want to destroy him for daring
- 8:33Speaker 3: to demonstrate that free enterprise works. And I want you
- 8:36Speaker 3: to think back again to what Jimmy Kimmel said, which
- 8:41Speaker 3: is he makes obscene amount of amounts of money by
- 8:45Speaker 3: getting other people's money. And let me just ask a
- 8:48Speaker 3: very simple question, Jimmy, how how does he get other
- 8:53Speaker 3: people's money? And he does it one of two ways.
- 8:56Speaker 3: One he does it by running a business. It's very profitable.
- 8:58Speaker 3: So he builds a car people really like, and they decide,
- 9:02Speaker 3: I like this car better than all the other cars.
- 9:04Speaker 3: And it's really good, and it's fast, and it's super
- 9:07Speaker 3: environmentally clean, and it looks cool and it's self driving.
- 9:12Speaker 3: So I want to buy it, so he produces a
- 9:15Speaker 3: product people really like and want, which, by the way,
- 9:18Speaker 3: is also much much better for the environment, which you
- 9:21Speaker 3: hypocrites claim to care about. But there's a second way.
- 9:23Speaker 3: How did he make so much money this week? Well,
- 9:27Speaker 3: he sold five hundred and fifty million shares of stock,
- 9:30Speaker 3: and you know what unified every single person who bought
- 9:33Speaker 3: that stock.
- 9:35Speaker 1: They all wanted to make money.
- 9:36Speaker 3: They did so voluntarily. Nobody forced them. Five hundred and
- 9:41Speaker 3: fifty million decisions of people who said I would like
- 9:45Speaker 3: to purchase at least a share of SpaceX, I want
- 9:48Speaker 3: to buy that. And by the way, it's not just gazillionaires.
- 9:53Speaker 3: It's lots of moms and pops, lots of ordinary people.
- 9:56Speaker 3: And you know what, You and I we probably don't
- 9:59Speaker 3: know this, but you and I are both probably and
- 10:01Speaker 3: most of our listeners are probably SpaceX stockholders too. Because
- 10:05Speaker 3: many of the purchasers were pension funds for a one
- 10:09Speaker 3: K So if you're in a widely diversified mutual fund,
- 10:12Speaker 3: which most of my retirement savings are in mutual funds,
- 10:16Speaker 3: many of them bought SpaceX as part of their portfolio.
- 10:19Speaker 3: So the people who purchased he is literally making Americans
- 10:24Speaker 3: rich all across the country. And if you're really good
- 10:27Speaker 3: at that, you make a bunch of money too. Leftists
- 10:31Speaker 3: hate that. They want to destroy you, and they also
- 10:33Speaker 3: want to take the money. They want government in charge
- 10:36Speaker 3: of it, and they want the only way you can
- 10:37Speaker 3: make money is for government to give you a check
- 10:39Speaker 3: every month. So you got to go vote to re
- 10:41Speaker 3: elect the Marxist and keep them in power. I want
- 10:43Speaker 3: to say to Elon Musk, Gwen Shot well, to everyone
- 10:46Speaker 3: at SpaceX, Congratulations, this was an historic week. God bless capitalism,
- 10:54Speaker 3: God bless liberty.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
- 10:57Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
- 11:00Speaker 2: pass from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.
- 11:04Speaker 2: But there is a story that is not being covered
- 11:06Speaker 2: that is an important story, and that is there was
- 11:09Speaker 2: actually an election in Georgia. You were involved in it.
- 11:12Speaker 2: You went down to Georgia. Was that yesterday or the
- 11:14Speaker 2: day before?
- 11:15Speaker 1: Every day is.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Running together now with the with the flight times and
- 11:18Speaker 2: you know, whatever time it is in the morning as
- 11:19Speaker 2: we speak. But you were just there and made an
- 11:22Speaker 2: endorsement there or couple actually in Georgia. What has happened there?
- 11:26Speaker 2: And what does this mean for the control of power
- 11:29Speaker 2: in DC.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was yesterday and there was a The
- 11:35Speaker 3: Georgia primaries were tonight Tuesday night in Georgia, and in
- 11:39Speaker 3: the governor's race, you had a guy named Rick Jackson,
- 11:42Speaker 3: who's a very successful businessman who was running against Burt Jones,
- 11:46Speaker 3: who's the lieutenant governor, and early on President Trump had
- 11:50Speaker 3: endorsed Burt Jones, and just a few days ago I
- 11:54Speaker 3: endorsed Rick Jackson, and that that caused the press to
- 11:58Speaker 3: like the tongues to wag and being like, oh, this
- 12:02Speaker 3: is a big conflict. I will say, Look, my approach
- 12:06Speaker 3: on endorsements is Number one, I endorse the most conservative
- 12:12Speaker 3: candidate who can win, and so I want to see
- 12:15Speaker 3: proven evidence that you're conservative, but I also want to
- 12:18Speaker 3: see that you can win, that you got a path
- 12:19Speaker 3: to victory, not just in the primary but in the general.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Number Two, I tend to get involved in races late
- 12:26Speaker 3: late to that. That's my philosophical approach is that I
- 12:29Speaker 3: try to get involved right before election day, hopefully at
- 12:33Speaker 3: a time when the election is close and my involvement
- 12:37Speaker 3: can make a difference, It can move someone into victory.
- 12:41Speaker 3: And so I jumped in this race just a few
- 12:43Speaker 3: days ago. Yesterday, the day before the election, I flew
- 12:47Speaker 3: down to Georgia to Atlanta, did a big rally with Rick,
- 12:51Speaker 3: and I got to say so Rick's story. Let me
- 12:53Speaker 3: tell you a bit, a little bit about the guy.
- 12:55Speaker 3: And I did not know him until the last few days,
- 12:59Speaker 3: but I looked at his I examined it, I talked
- 13:01Speaker 3: to people who knew him, and I made the decision
- 13:03Speaker 3: to endorse it. So his story. He grew up in
- 13:07Speaker 3: a broken home in the projects in Atlanta, poverty dysfunction.
- 13:15Speaker 3: As a young boy, he ran away from home. He
- 13:18Speaker 3: ended up going into the foster home system as a child.
- 13:23Speaker 3: He had five foster families, so that's what he came
- 13:27Speaker 3: out of. He then went on to college, spent I
- 13:32Speaker 3: think a little over a year in college, dropped out
- 13:34Speaker 3: of college, did not succeed in college, and he went
- 13:37Speaker 3: and got a job. This is a cool story. So
- 13:40Speaker 3: he went and interviewed to work for a company that
- 13:43Speaker 3: was engaged in healthcare sales. He did the interview, he
- 13:47Speaker 3: did pretty well, and then the guy interviewing him said,
- 13:49Speaker 3: I'm sorry, look, we only hire people who have college degrees.
- 13:53Speaker 3: You dropped out of college, we're not going to hire you.
- 13:56Speaker 3: And Rick said, okay, that's fine. He said, can I
- 13:58Speaker 3: ask you, just out of Curiousity City, what did the
- 14:01Speaker 3: job pay? And the guy said, well, it paid fifteen
- 14:06Speaker 3: hundred dollars a month plus thirty three percent of all
- 14:09Speaker 3: the sales you make. And Rick came back. He said,
- 14:13Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. How about if you don't pay
- 14:17Speaker 3: me the fifteen hundred dollars a month, don't pay me anything,
- 14:20Speaker 3: but just give me the thirty three percent of the sales.
- 14:24Speaker 3: And the guy kind of laughed. He said, well, that
- 14:26Speaker 3: sounds like a good deal. I don't have anything to
- 14:27Speaker 3: lose on that do so he hired it, even though
- 14:29Speaker 3: he didn't have a college degree. He came in and
- 14:32Speaker 3: was a monster salesman. Ended up making so much money
- 14:37Speaker 3: that within two years he bought the company that had
- 14:41Speaker 3: hired it.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Wow, and he.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Ends up building this company into a massive, multi billion
- 14:50Speaker 3: dollar healthcare company in Georgia. He's one of the biggest
- 14:54Speaker 3: employers in the state of Georgia. Incredibly successful businessman, self build,
- 15:00Speaker 3: built from nothing. Yeah, he now has been an incredibly
- 15:05Speaker 3: generous philanthropist. He's decided, look, I don't want to take
- 15:08Speaker 3: He's worth several billion dollars. He's very successful, and he said,
- 15:12Speaker 3: I don't want to take this money with me, so
- 15:14Speaker 3: I'm going to give it away and make a difference
- 15:16Speaker 3: to the world around me. So, for example, on foster care,
- 15:20Speaker 3: he has given millions to help foster kids in Georgia.
- 15:24Speaker 3: So kids that are in foster care, he'll come in
- 15:27Speaker 3: and say, you know what, I'm going to pay for
- 15:29Speaker 3: you to college. I'm going to pay for your expenses.
- 15:31Speaker 3: I'm going to help you get started because he's been there. Look,
- 15:34Speaker 3: so many foster kids that they've been subject to horrible conditions.
- 15:39Speaker 3: They've often been subject to abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse.
- 15:43Speaker 3: They're the kids that it seems sometimes society gives up on. Yeah,
- 15:49Speaker 3: and he understands firsthand. Look, you can be in that
- 15:52Speaker 3: circumstance and you can make something of your life and
- 15:54Speaker 3: make a real difference. And so he's invested in these
- 15:58Speaker 3: kids that have every disadvantage. I'm going to help them
- 16:03Speaker 3: achieve their dreams. He's also funded Christian ministries all over
- 16:07Speaker 3: the world. For example, he's funded a Christian orphanage in
- 16:12Speaker 3: China that my understanding is it's the lone orphanage that's
- 16:16Speaker 3: able to teach Christianity in China. So he's he's putting, Look,
- 16:21Speaker 3: you and I are both Christians. It's one thing to
- 16:24Speaker 3: have empty words. It's one thing to say you have faith.
- 16:28Speaker 3: It's another thing to put your faith to action, to
- 16:31Speaker 3: put to invest and make a difference. And Rick decided, Okay,
- 16:35Speaker 3: I'm going to run for governor because I think I
- 16:38Speaker 3: can make a difference. And I looked at at his
- 16:40Speaker 3: record and I said, this guy has an incredible, I mean,
- 16:45Speaker 3: an inspirational life story, and I think he can win.
- 16:48Speaker 3: And so I endorsed him. I went down we did
- 16:51Speaker 3: a big rally in Georgia, and I'm gonna give you
- 16:53Speaker 3: some fun behind the scenes story. So as we're coming in,
- 16:57Speaker 3: I fly down there on Monday. We're going to the
- 16:59Speaker 3: route and Trump had endorsed his opponent, this guy named
- 17:04Speaker 3: Burt Jones. I don't know Burt Jones. I'm sure he's
- 17:06Speaker 3: a perfectly decent and fine man. He's the Lieutenant.
- 17:09Speaker 1: He endorsed early, right, so people understand.
- 17:11Speaker 3: Yeah, he endorsed early before Rick was in the race.
- 17:16Speaker 3: And I understand.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Look that's a key point.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Yeah, he went for who he thought at the time
- 17:20Speaker 2: the other guy wasn't in yet.
- 17:21Speaker 3: Yeah, Jones was the lieutenant governor. He was running, and
- 17:24Speaker 3: so Trump endorsed early. Rick wasn't in the race. So
- 17:28Speaker 3: so Rick was actually at the White House a big
- 17:31Speaker 3: fundraiser this weekend, and you know, Trump was saying, Hey,
- 17:33Speaker 3: this guy's great, he's awesome. Uh, he's incredibly successful. I
- 17:37Speaker 3: didn't know him, but he was like praising him vocally
- 17:40Speaker 3: at this fundraiser this weekend. As I'm flying in, I'm
- 17:45Speaker 3: headed to the event, and we get the news that
- 17:49Speaker 3: Donald Trump Junior is going to endorse Rick Jackson. Now
- 17:53Speaker 3: that's a big deal because the main argument against him,
- 17:56Speaker 3: what everyone was pounding him, is that Trump, Trump the Dad,
- 18:00Speaker 3: had endorsed his opponent. You know, tons of campaign ads
- 18:04Speaker 3: saying Trump picked the other guy. Then we get the
- 18:06Speaker 3: news that Don Junior was going to endorse Rick, and
- 18:09Speaker 3: it was actually fun. As I'm headed to the event,
- 18:11Speaker 3: the campaign said, hey, do you want to announce Don
- 18:15Speaker 3: Junior's endorsement and listen, Don Junior is a buddy of mine.
- 18:19Speaker 3: I know him very well, and I was like, yeah, sure,
- 18:22Speaker 3: And I said, look, I just want to help your campaign,
- 18:25Speaker 3: So if it's helpful for me to announce it. I'm
- 18:27Speaker 3: happy to. If it's not like it's your call, but
- 18:29Speaker 3: I'm more than happy to. And they ended up deciding
- 18:35Speaker 3: that Don Junior, the actual endorsement statement was not going
- 18:38Speaker 3: to use the word endorse, but was going to praise
- 18:40Speaker 3: him as like he's a great patriot. I know him well,
- 18:43Speaker 3: and he's fantastic and he's America first, and the timing
- 18:49Speaker 3: ended up working out. I said, sure, I'm happy to
- 18:50Speaker 3: announce it, but then they didn't end up approving the
- 18:54Speaker 3: statement for another two hours, and it just look, it
- 18:56Speaker 3: takes some time when you're right before an election and
- 18:58Speaker 3: you're trying to decide going through a political operation, it
- 19:01Speaker 3: takes some time to approve it. So I said, I'm
- 19:03Speaker 3: happy to announce it. It wasn't finalized, so I did not,
- 19:06Speaker 3: in fact announce it from the stage, but right after
- 19:10Speaker 3: I left, Don Junior tweeted out the support and tonight
- 19:16Speaker 3: Rick ended up winning. The margin as of tonight nine
- 19:20Speaker 3: to nine percent is in is fifty two point six
- 19:23Speaker 3: percent to forty seven four percent. It's a great victory,
- 19:28Speaker 3: and I think so one of the cases I made
- 19:32Speaker 3: to the voters. We had a big, big rally in Georgia.
- 19:34Speaker 3: And I said, listen that Rick's life story is incredible.
- 19:38Speaker 3: He's campaigning on a promise number one, to immediately freeze
- 19:44Speaker 3: property taxes in Georgia. That's big number two, on income taxes,
- 19:49Speaker 3: to cut the Georgia income tax in half, and ultimately
- 19:54Speaker 3: to work to abolish it all together. And what Rick
- 19:56Speaker 3: has said is he said if he doesn't see seed
- 20:00Speaker 3: in freezing the property taxes and cutting the lincomb tax
- 20:02Speaker 3: in half, he will not run for reelection. He will
- 20:06Speaker 3: serve one term. If he fails in that, he's not
- 20:08Speaker 3: running for reelection. And I made a point to everyone.
- 20:11Speaker 3: I said, listen, I've got a crazy secret here. Rick
- 20:16Speaker 3: is rich. Like everyone laughs, I'm like, yeah, look, this
- 20:19Speaker 3: is an incredibly successful dude. He could play golf every day,
- 20:24Speaker 3: he could sit on the beach and drink dakeres and
- 20:26Speaker 3: live a life of leisure. And I said, listen, to
- 20:29Speaker 3: run for office, you've got to be nuts, you've got
- 20:32Speaker 3: to be certified crazy. Yeah, you get attacked constantly. There's
- 20:37Speaker 3: so much and Rick is doing this. The case I made,
- 20:39Speaker 3: I said, Rick is doing this because he believes in Georgia.
- 20:43Speaker 3: He believes in the country, he believes he could make
- 20:45Speaker 3: a difference. And listen, Georgia used to be bright red.
- 20:50Speaker 3: The unfortunate reality is it's purple now and the Democrats.
- 20:55Speaker 3: Right now, the Democrats are leading in the polling for
- 20:58Speaker 3: the governor's race. I think Rick will win. I think
- 21:01Speaker 3: Rick will keep Georgia red. And I also made the case,
- 21:04Speaker 3: I said, listen, by y'all coming out and voting for Rick,
- 21:08Speaker 3: we're going to help John oss Off get a job
- 21:10Speaker 3: in the private sector. John Ossof is the very liberal
- 21:14Speaker 3: Democrat who represents Georgia. He may be the Senator who
- 21:19Speaker 3: is most out of step with the values of his
- 21:21Speaker 3: state because he's a very liberal Democrat. George is not
- 21:24Speaker 3: a very liberal state. But he's got a ton of
- 21:27Speaker 3: money and he's right now leading in the polls a lot.
- 21:30Speaker 3: And I said, listen, if you want to win the
- 21:32Speaker 3: Senate seat here in Georgia, the best way to do
- 21:35Speaker 3: it is have a gubernatorial candidate who's running an incredible campaign,
- 21:40Speaker 3: who's mobilizing voters across the state, who, by the way,
- 21:44Speaker 3: I mean Rick has put massive millions of millions of
- 21:48Speaker 3: dollars in the campaign, so he's going to he's funding
- 21:50Speaker 3: it himself. And if you end up with the gubernatorial
- 21:54Speaker 3: candidate at the top of the race who's turning out
- 21:56Speaker 3: a ton of voters. That's how you have a chance
- 22:00Speaker 3: to win the Senate race. Also, and I got to
- 22:03Speaker 3: say I'm gratified the voters of Georgia agreed and we
- 22:07Speaker 3: had a big, big win in Georgia. Signe as before.
- 22:11Speaker 2: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
- 22:13Speaker 2: on this topic, you can go back and down the
- 22:15Speaker 2: podcast from early this week to hear the entire thing.
- 22:19Speaker 2: I want to get back to the big story number
- 22:21Speaker 2: three of the week. You may have missed, all right,
- 22:23Speaker 2: so center, let's move into this is something you've been
- 22:26Speaker 2: really working on. This is the most like Jock bro
- 22:29Speaker 2: I've ever seen you since i've known you, and it's
- 22:31Speaker 2: really been fun for me because usually you're geeking out
- 22:34Speaker 2: over like Supreme Court stuff. I feel like our friendship
- 22:37Speaker 2: has moved to another level because now we've got to
- 22:40Speaker 2: talk sports and NIL so much and the college Sports bill.
- 22:43Speaker 2: It is now reality. Let's walk us through how this
- 22:47Speaker 2: was done and what it means for sports fans and
- 22:49Speaker 2: saving many sports that were getting canceled around the country
- 22:52Speaker 2: that were non money making sports.
- 22:54Speaker 3: So this week was a very, very big week for
- 22:57Speaker 3: college sports because the Senate comm Committee, which I chair,
- 23:02Speaker 3: passed my legislation to protect college sports, and it passed
- 23:06Speaker 3: with a big bipartisan vote. The vote was nineteen to nine,
- 23:10Speaker 3: so we got a bunch of Republicans, a bunch of Democrats.
- 23:13Speaker 3: We got more than two thirds of the committee voted
- 23:15Speaker 3: for it. That's really important. It has momentum now going
- 23:18Speaker 3: to the Senate floor. I think it's going to pass
- 23:20Speaker 3: on the Senate with a big bipartisan vote, and it's
- 23:22Speaker 3: going to go to the House and President Trump is
- 23:25Speaker 3: eager to sign it. Now, what's going on in college sports? Listen,
- 23:29Speaker 3: College sports is in crisis right now. Every week you
- 23:34Speaker 3: see another story about a program being canceled, women's sports
- 23:37Speaker 3: being canceled, track and field being canceled, Olympic sports being canceled,
- 23:41Speaker 3: non revenue sports, tennis being canceled. And what is happening
- 23:46Speaker 3: is is you've got total chaos with the transfer portal.
- 23:49Speaker 3: You've got athletes transferring two, three, four, five times. You
- 23:53Speaker 3: have essentially no rules on eligibility. They're all being decided
- 23:58Speaker 3: by lawsuits. It got so ludicals issued. You had the
- 24:00Speaker 3: Brendan Soresby case, where even though he was gambling on
- 24:04Speaker 3: his own games, you had a hometown judge say no,
- 24:08Speaker 3: he can still play anyway. Now, thankfully Texas Tech backed
- 24:12Speaker 3: away from that decision. I'm glad Tech made that decision
- 24:15Speaker 3: to back away. That was an indefensible decision, but it
- 24:17Speaker 3: illustrated the chaos we have. You have people that are
- 24:22Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty seven years old still playing college sports,
- 24:25Speaker 3: and twenty eight year olds playing against eighteen year olds,
- 24:28Speaker 3: which is not fair, not right, and athletic programs they're
- 24:36Speaker 3: almost all losing millions of dollars. Many of them are
- 24:39Speaker 3: losing tens of millions of dollars because the cost keeps
- 24:42Speaker 3: spiraling out of control. And ben if Congress doesn't act,
- 24:48Speaker 3: I think five years from now, there will be thirty
- 24:51Speaker 3: to fifty competitive college football programs, basically a mini NFL.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it'll be a franchise. If you're
- 25:00Speaker 2: an SEC school, you'll own a franchise.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:02Speaker 3: And I think all of the other programs go under.
- 25:05Speaker 3: And what that means, by the way, that's not just
- 25:08Speaker 3: college football going under. The way athletics works in colleges
- 25:11Speaker 3: is football pays for everything else, and so if football
- 25:15Speaker 3: goes under, it means those schools they lose women's sports,
- 25:17Speaker 3: they lose they lose their entire athletic program. It means
- 25:21Speaker 3: our Olympic athletes are just devastated and the college programs
- 25:26Speaker 3: where they develop their skills right now go away. And
- 25:30Speaker 3: I think that would be a terrible outcome. And it
- 25:32Speaker 3: would also be a terrible outcome. Do you know right
- 25:35Speaker 3: now there are more than five hundred thousand college athletes
- 25:39Speaker 3: competing at YAH at any given time. If we allow
- 25:44Speaker 3: this chaos to continue to play out, hundreds of thousands
- 25:48Speaker 3: of those slots will disappear, Those scholarships will disappear. And
- 25:52Speaker 3: sports has been an avenue, by the way millions of
- 25:56Speaker 3: young men and women to go to school.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Well, let's be clear the five thousand just mentioned, And
- 26:00Speaker 2: this is the part I want people to understand. The
- 26:02Speaker 2: majority of college athletes like ninety I think I saw
- 26:05Speaker 2: a study.
- 26:05Speaker 1: You may know the number.
- 26:06Speaker 2: I want to say it was ninety eight or ninety
- 26:08Speaker 2: nine percent of at college athletes do not play football
- 26:13Speaker 2: or basketball. So if you think about college sports, it
- 26:17Speaker 2: is all the other sports. The majority of them are
- 26:19Speaker 2: not revenue making sports. Football barely is on most cambriages
- 26:24Speaker 2: sometimes and depending on what school you're at. If you're
- 26:26Speaker 2: at a basketball school, then that will be your revenue sport.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Outside that, almost all the others lose money.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Yep.
- 26:32Speaker 2: If you don't fix this, everything goes away. And then
- 26:36Speaker 2: many of those football programs at one percent of the
- 26:38Speaker 2: student body, or basketball, which is I mean most basketball
- 26:41Speaker 2: teams I have I think scholarships chie I was it's
- 26:43Speaker 2: nine and d one.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Maybe it's eleven scholarships.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I can't remember. They're always moving it around. But for
- 26:48Speaker 2: men like that's not many.
- 26:50Speaker 1: People, folks.
- 26:51Speaker 2: If you don't fix this, you have a university that
- 26:53Speaker 2: now doesn't even have an identity in sports.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Look, look my philosophy at addressing this was was number one.
- 26:59Speaker 3: I didn't worry too much about the powerhouse programs, the
- 27:03Speaker 3: big big programs. Listen in Texas University of Texas and
- 27:07Speaker 3: Texas A and M. I love them both. I go
- 27:09Speaker 3: to games every year. I cheer them on their incredible institutions.
- 27:13Speaker 3: To be honest, UTNA and M, they are gonna survive
- 27:16Speaker 3: and thrive regardless of what happens. They would survive the
- 27:21Speaker 3: Mini NFL and then continue to win national championships. But
- 27:26Speaker 3: I worried about all of the other programs. To be honest,
- 27:29Speaker 3: if we don't act, I'm not convinced any other program
- 27:32Speaker 3: in Texas survives. And if you can imagine at Texas
- 27:35Speaker 3: without SMU, without TCU, without Baylor, without Texas Tech, without Rice,
- 27:40Speaker 3: without University of Houston, that would be a tragic outcome.
- 27:47Speaker 3: And so my focus was on maintaining the entire ecosystem.
- 27:51Speaker 3: But secondly, my focus was not on the superstar athletes.
- 27:55Speaker 3: If you're Michael Jordan, if you're Arch Manning, you know what,
- 27:58Speaker 3: You're gonna get millions of Dill. You're going to be
- 28:01Speaker 3: on the wheaties box. You're going to do great. Yeah,
- 28:05Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of college athletes will never play in
- 28:08Speaker 3: the NFL, will never play in the NBA, But yet
- 28:13Speaker 3: athletics is their ticket to college. Look it was for
- 28:16Speaker 3: you playing tennis is how you went all miss.
- 28:19Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure I would
- 28:20Speaker 2: have gone to college if it wasn't for having the
- 28:24Speaker 2: scholarship which came through tennis to pay for college. My
- 28:28Speaker 2: family did not have a lot of means, and my
- 28:30Speaker 2: dad was the first to admit and it was like,
- 28:32Speaker 2: if you want to go to college. If you want
- 28:35Speaker 2: to go to good school, you're going to have to
- 28:36Speaker 2: get there and earn it. Sports was my way in.
- 28:39Speaker 2: It wasn't going to be the academic road, and that's
- 28:41Speaker 2: another avenue you can go, but sports was, and for
- 28:44Speaker 2: many of my friends, it was a savior to a
- 28:47Speaker 2: better life afterwards, a better member of society.
- 28:50Speaker 1: By the way, we pay a lot.
- 28:51Speaker 2: More taxes when you're successful, so it's a great reinvestment
- 28:54Speaker 2: in the country from that standpoint as well. You want
- 28:56Speaker 2: your kids to go to college. But for so many
- 28:58Speaker 2: I had roommates, they would have never gotten into college
- 29:02Speaker 2: if it wasn't and gotten their family. Many I had
- 29:04Speaker 2: two different roommates there were the first kid in their
- 29:07Speaker 2: families to ever go to college. It completely changed the
- 29:09Speaker 2: trajector to their family tree. And it was because of athletics.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Well, and some people have said, well, why is Congress
- 29:16Speaker 3: getting involved in college sports? And the reason is it's
- 29:20Speaker 3: federal laws that Congress has passed that created this chaos.
- 29:24Speaker 3: It's why all of the rules got thrown out because
- 29:26Speaker 3: they're being sued under existing federal law and every rule
- 29:30Speaker 3: keeps getting thrown out, and so Congress created the problem
- 29:34Speaker 3: which means only Congress can fix it, because only Congress
- 29:36Speaker 3: can can can alter that federal law. And if we
- 29:40Speaker 3: don't act, we can see the crisis unfolding around us
- 29:44Speaker 3: and for millions of young men and women. Many college
- 29:48Speaker 3: athletes are coming from economically disadvantaged circumstances. Many of them
- 29:52Speaker 3: are African American or Hispanic. Over years and decades, we're
- 29:56Speaker 3: talking about millions of young men and women who this
- 29:59Speaker 3: may be their only path to go to a going
- 30:02Speaker 3: to college and getting an education, but b learning the
- 30:05Speaker 3: disciplines that come from being in organized sports of teamwork
- 30:10Speaker 3: and hard work and discipline and sportsmanship. And look, I
- 30:14Speaker 3: didn't have the skills to play college sports. I would
- 30:15Speaker 3: have loved to, but I played high school sports and
- 30:17Speaker 3: it was you know, being on I played basketball and
- 30:19Speaker 3: football and soccer, and being on a team in high school.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Those are really important skills and it's amazing. I actually
- 30:25Speaker 3: asked this at our Senate Republican lunch. I said, all right,
- 30:28Speaker 3: how many people around this table played college sports? And
- 30:32Speaker 3: I would say about twenty percent of the Republicans in
- 30:35Speaker 3: the Senate raised their hand and they were college athletes.
- 30:37Speaker 3: I mean, that's true, and that's true. You find that
- 30:39Speaker 3: with CEOs, you find that the discipline and nobody in
- 30:44Speaker 3: the Senate played professional sports, but the discipline of and
- 30:49Speaker 3: the skills you learn set you up for success in life.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Let me ask you one final question on this. Who
- 30:55Speaker 2: was behind this that surprised you the most? And Nick
- 30:57Speaker 2: Saban was one that I was excited to see that,
- 30:59Speaker 2: the African American University of Memphis and my hometown football coach,
- 31:03Speaker 2: he got behind this and had some great testimony there
- 31:06Speaker 2: in front of you, guys.
- 31:07Speaker 1: I was proud of that as well.
- 31:07Speaker 2: But who shocked you that was behind this?
- 31:10Speaker 3: So the support we've seen has been overwhelming. Twenty four
- 31:13Speaker 3: conferences have endorsed this bill. They represent those conferences represent
- 31:19Speaker 3: over two hundred different colleges and universities are enthusiastically supporting
- 31:24Speaker 3: the bill. The NFL endorsed the bill, the NBA endorsed
- 31:27Speaker 3: the bill. Major League Baseball endorsed the bill. NFL Players
- 31:31Speaker 3: Association endorsed the bill, The NBA Players Association endorsed the bill.
- 31:36Speaker 3: The College Football Association endorsed the bill. We've had Nick
- 31:39Speaker 3: Saban has endorsed at John Calipari led over one hundred
- 31:43Speaker 3: college coaches who have endorsed the bill. The US Olympic
- 31:47Speaker 3: Committee endorsed the bill, so we've seen just enormous support.
- 31:53Speaker 3: And I will say the primary opposition came from the
- 31:57Speaker 3: leadership of the Big Ten and the SEC. And look,
- 32:01Speaker 3: the SEC is really important in Texas. Obviously, UTA and
- 32:03Speaker 3: m I think they're great. If Congress doesn't act, I
- 32:09Speaker 3: believe the SEC and Big Ten want to create a
- 32:11Speaker 3: super league where they're the only football that exists and everyone.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Else goes out of bust a billion dollar franchise organizations.
- 32:17Speaker 3: That's what they would have, and that is a terrible outcome.
- 32:20Speaker 3: We explicitly prohibit a super league in the bill because
- 32:23Speaker 3: I want to keep all the other programs alive. That's
- 32:26Speaker 3: where the resistance has come from. I think we're going
- 32:29Speaker 3: to end up having a big, big, bipartisan vote on
- 32:32Speaker 3: the Senate floor. My objective is to do this, get
- 32:35Speaker 3: it done, get it past the President's eager to sign it,
- 32:38Speaker 3: and do all of that before school starts this fall.
- 32:41Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center,
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