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Mayhem in Minneapolis: Why it's Happening, How to Stop it & Why Dems Will Shut the Government Down to Encourage More · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the special Snow but get in version of
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  Speaker 1: verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. And there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of you that are listening that I know
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  Speaker 1: are dealing with the insanity of the freezing rain and
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  Speaker 1: the snow. I hope you're enjoying it with your kids,
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  Speaker 1: making some memories. But it's a lot going on center.
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  Speaker 1: So for everybody out there that is listening, God bless us,
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  Speaker 1: stay warm.
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  Speaker 2: Well, stay warm, and stay safe. There are power outages
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  Speaker 2: across the country. There is snow and ice across about
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  Speaker 2: half of the country. The state of Texas is largely
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  Speaker 2: engulfed in the winter storm. There's snow and ice up north.
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  Speaker 2: You and I Ben are both in Houston right now.
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  Speaker 2: Houston's still in the thirties, so we haven't had snow
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  Speaker 2: or ice. Supposed to drop to the twenties tonight, and look,
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  Speaker 2: my counsel to everyone is stay safe. If you don't
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  Speaker 2: need to be on icy roads, don't go out on
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  Speaker 2: icy roads. Take some time and be home with the kids.
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  Speaker 2: Keep your family safe. It's a good excuse to do
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  Speaker 2: something with your kids, do something with your wife or
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  Speaker 2: your husband, and just don't take any unnecessary travel. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: stay safe and and make sure you keep your family safe.
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  Speaker 1: But by the way, senter, I have you played this
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  Speaker 1: game called Majhon yet?
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  Speaker 3: Do I look like a ninety year old woman?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is what happened. See, you come up with
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  Speaker 1: this idea, spend time with your family, play games, and
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  Speaker 1: I got suckered into my first ever game in maj
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  Speaker 1: on I. I literally wanted to beat my head against
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  Speaker 1: the against So if if it's offered to you, run
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  Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell you. I barely made
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  Speaker 1: it through a game. I just it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: like watching paint dry, but more painful.
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  Speaker 2: So so Ben, I'm actually male, so so so. No,
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  Speaker 2: I have not played that game.
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  Speaker 1: I told you, I got suckered into it. This is
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  Speaker 1: what happens. It's like, oh, let's play games.
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  Speaker 2: I did this week play a game called poker. You
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  Speaker 2: may have heard of it. It's something that men do
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  Speaker 2: when they gather.
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  Speaker 1: I also got in trouble. This is what happens. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. I got in trouble
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  Speaker 1: for teaching my twins or six of my nine year
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  Speaker 1: old how to play Texas, all them with chips. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, we're not playing for money, We're just playing
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  Speaker 1: for chips. I got in trouble therefore I got punished
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  Speaker 1: with maj on, so it's full circle. I'm glad that
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  Speaker 1: you figured that out there.
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  Speaker 3: You know that's you're failing as a father.
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  Speaker 1: I literally have a purplip right here. Do you see
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  Speaker 1: this there?
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  Speaker 3: It is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's if if you don't teach your boys to
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  Speaker 2: play poker, you are failing as a father.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm going to quote you on that was
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  Speaker 1: my rebuttal later on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that will get you out of any
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  Speaker 2: trouble at all.
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  Speaker 1: All I know is whoever made majoh I want to
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  Speaker 1: get in a bar fight with him. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to be on the record for that. It may be
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  Speaker 1: the dumbest game I've ever played. Come at me on
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  Speaker 1: the comments.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like a two thousand year old Chinese woman, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I believe, And if I found her, it may be
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  Speaker 1: the first I'd ever even think about hitting a woman.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to That's how much I hate this game.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just I'll be on the record. I'm fine
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  Speaker 1: with that. You can come at me in the comments section.
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  Speaker 2: We're just saying, if the two thousand year old Chinese
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  Speaker 2: woman happens to be alive, I'm not sure you want
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  Speaker 2: to fight her because there's sure zombie actually going on.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, I'll be throwing poker chips at her. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about on today's show.
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  Speaker 1: And you've been warned men out there about Majah. Don't
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  Speaker 1: take the bait. I don't care how cold it is,
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  Speaker 1: or if how long the power is off, or how
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  Speaker 1: close the maajon table is the fireplace. Don't take the bait.
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  Speaker 1: I want to take a quick moment and talk to
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  Speaker 1: you about an incredible organization and it is called Compassion International,
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  Speaker 1: and how you can get involved. I want you to
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  Speaker 1: just pause what you're doing for the next sixty seconds,
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  Speaker 1: and I want you to imagine Lucy, a seven year old.
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  Speaker 1: Her stomach often aches with hunger, her small hands instead
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  Speaker 1: of holding crayons, no, only the struggle of survival on
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  Speaker 1: dusty streets. School is a distant dream, medical care forgotten hope.
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  Speaker 1: Lucy's potential is overshadowed, her future is dim. But what
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  Speaker 1: if someone stepped in? What if there was a way
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  Speaker 1: to ignite hope for children? Just like Lucy. Well there is,
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  Speaker 1: and that is with Compassion International Partners and the local
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  Speaker 1: They receive critical medical care, life changing education, vital skills training,
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  Speaker 1: and spiritual development, all in Jesus's name. And you can
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  Speaker 1: empower a child just like Lucy to break free from poverty.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to do what I've done and sponsor
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  Speaker 1: a child today. You can visit Compassion dot com. That's
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  Speaker 1: Compassion dot com. We've got a lot. Minneapolis. We got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about Center and the chaos there. We also
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  Speaker 1: have a government shutdown that's looming apparently over this this
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  Speaker 1: issue with ice. Let's go through that real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's start with with Minneapolis. And listen, everyone
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  Speaker 2: who has anything resembling a conscience, it is horrified by
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  Speaker 2: what's happening in Minneapolis. And and what I want to
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  Speaker 2: call on everyone to do is just just just ratchet
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  Speaker 2: things down. Ratchet the rhetoric down, ratchet the anger down.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we are a nation and we're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be one need and right now we're seeing we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: a confrontation. Now, look, this is an organized confrontation. This
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  Speaker 2: is a deliberate confrontation. We're going to talk about that,
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  Speaker 2: but I want to start with the rhetoric that politicians
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  Speaker 2: are using on both sides, and the rhetoric frankly that
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  Speaker 2: that people are using.
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  Speaker 3: Just people on both sides on X.
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  Speaker 2: Are using where where on one side they view every
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  Speaker 2: shooting as an absolute tragedy, as as evidence that that
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  Speaker 2: that that America has become Nazi Germany. On the other side,
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  Speaker 2: you see some people that that that that seem pretty
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  Speaker 2: eager to celebrate a violent and lethal confrontation with law enforcement.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, there are lethal confrontations with law enforcement.
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  Speaker 3: They happen.
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  Speaker 2: But anytime you have an American who is killed in
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  Speaker 2: a confrontation with law enforcement, it is tragic that a
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  Speaker 2: life is lost.
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  Speaker 3: Particularly in this instance.
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  Speaker 2: We now have two people, uh to Americans who've been
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  Speaker 2: killed in confrontations with law enforcement, who from all appearances,
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  Speaker 2: are not violent criminals. They don't have long criminal records,
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  Speaker 2: or at least if they do, we don't know them
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  Speaker 2: right now. There's no indication that they do. And any
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  Speaker 2: time you have an encounter gone wrong that results in
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  Speaker 2: a fatality, there is cause for mourning.
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  Speaker 3: There is cause for grief.
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  Speaker 2: You know that was somebody's mother, that was somebody's brother
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  Speaker 2: or sister or father, and and you know that's a tragedy.
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  Speaker 3: At the same time, we can.
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  Speaker 2: Ask what has caused these shootings, what has caused these
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  Speaker 2: violent encounters. I'll give you an amazing stat which which
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  Speaker 2: is in Texas, where you and I both live, there
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  Speaker 2: have been anywhere from six times to ten times as
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  Speaker 2: many ICE arrests in Texas as there have been in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: The numbers vary, but according to twenty twenty six reports,
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  Speaker 2: Texas has seen approximately sixty thousand arrests ICE arrests compared
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  Speaker 2: to approximately ten thousand in Minnesota. That's one estimate that
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  Speaker 2: there are numbers that vary, but we're not seeing violent
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  Speaker 2: confrontations with ICE in Texas, and I think there are
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  Speaker 2: a couple of reasons for that. One, the state and
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  Speaker 2: local officials are cooperating.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Local police are working with the federal Immigration enforcement agents.
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  Speaker 2: In Minnesota, the governor, the mayor, the local officials have
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  Speaker 2: decided to well, to use Tim Waltz's word, go to
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  Speaker 2: war with the federal wars.
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  Speaker 1: Civil war is what they're describing. And you have that
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  Speaker 1: governor there over his fence like yelling and encouraging people
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  Speaker 1: to go after ice.
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  Speaker 2: You have Democrat politicians who are behaving with reckless irresponsibility,
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  Speaker 2: urging citizens go out find eye, confront ice, get in
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  Speaker 2: their way, frustrate them, block them from from from arresting
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  Speaker 2: violent criminals, from arresting murderers, from arresting gang bangers, from
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  Speaker 2: arresting child molesters, and and and you see those efforts
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  Speaker 2: that that really the flames being fanned as you use
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  Speaker 2: rhetoric calling federal law enforcement officers Nazis or klansmen or Gestapo, Well,
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  Speaker 2: that that that leads to the temperature going up and
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  Speaker 2: up and up. I'll say, secondly, just a word of
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  Speaker 2: advice to anyone who is in an interaction with law enforcement,
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  Speaker 2: which is, don't do anything on your own side to escalate.
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  Speaker 2: If you are driving a vehicle, an SUV, and you
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  Speaker 2: drive that vehicle directly into a law enforcement agent, the
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  Speaker 2: odds are quite significant you will be met with lethal force.
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  Speaker 2: That's true in Minnesota, it's true in both places across
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  Speaker 2: the country.
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  Speaker 3: That that that.
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  Speaker 2: If you respond to law enforcement with violence, you are
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  Speaker 2: risking your own safety in your own life. Likewise, this
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  Speaker 2: latest shooting look as we sit here today, we don't
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  Speaker 2: know all the facts, and one of the things I
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  Speaker 2: would urge people to do is not to just leap
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  Speaker 2: to conclusions. Anytime you have an off turn involved shooting,
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  Speaker 2: there's always an investigation. That is standard practice in just
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  Speaker 2: about any context, and so there'll be an investigation here.
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  Speaker 2: You and I have both seen a number of the videos.
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  Speaker 2: It is hard to tell from the videos exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of day after quarterbacking going for frame
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  Speaker 2: by frame. What I can tell you is this, we
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  Speaker 2: know that the individual who lost his life came to
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  Speaker 2: the protest. He came to the protest, as has been
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  Speaker 2: reported multiple times, with a firearm with multiple magazines of ammunition,
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  Speaker 2: and there was a violent confrontation that ultimately resulted in
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  Speaker 2: his being shot and killed. What exactly transpired, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to wait for the investigation to figure that out. There
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  Speaker 2: are basic rules that govern when officers, either police or
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  Speaker 2: federal law enforcement officers, when they can permissively use lethal force.
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  Speaker 2: They can use lethal force if they reasonably believe that
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  Speaker 2: their safety is in danger or the safety of others
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  Speaker 2: are in danger, and so they can use lethal force
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  Speaker 2: if in the instance of the first woman who was killed.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it, and it took a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: for it to come out. The video of the ice
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  Speaker 2: agent from his camera, and she clearly drives the vehicle
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  Speaker 2: straight into him and hits him, and the ice agent
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  Speaker 2: ended up going to the hospital with internal injuries. If
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  Speaker 2: you actually run over a law enforcement officer, that that
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  Speaker 2: is a justifiable use of lethal force. With respect to
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  Speaker 2: the most recent incident, it will depend upon the extent
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  Speaker 2: to which the agents reasonably believed that the individual posed
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  Speaker 2: a threat to them and he had a gun. There
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  Speaker 2: was confusion, confusion at the time, and so there needs
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  Speaker 2: to be an investigation.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what they can't do.
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  Speaker 2: What they can't do is if a suspect is fleeing
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  Speaker 2: and by the way, fleeing even if they committed a crime.
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  Speaker 2: There's a classic example of someone steals a television and
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  Speaker 2: they're running away with the television. An officer is not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to shoot someone in the back, even as if.
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  Speaker 3: They're committing a crime.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, the Supreme Court has ruled that you cannot use
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  Speaker 2: that lethal force to shoot someone in the back when
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  Speaker 2: they're fleeing a crime. So whether it is a good
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  Speaker 2: shoot or a bad shoot turns on the question of
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  Speaker 2: did the officers reasonably believe that that that the individual
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  Speaker 2: posed a serious threat to themselves or to others. They
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  Speaker 2: can intervene if if someone is getting ready to hurt
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  Speaker 2: somebody else, they can also use legal lethal force to
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  Speaker 2: prevent that. I'll say this also, though that question will
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  Speaker 2: take some time and an investigation to resolve. But the
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  Speaker 2: individual who was shot, he could have avoided that risk altogether.
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  Speaker 1: All that he could have.
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  Speaker 3: Avoided Number one.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, he could have chosen not to go to
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  Speaker 2: the protest. That's one choice. Now you might say, well,
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  Speaker 2: he feels passionately that he disagrees with what Ice is
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  Speaker 2: doing and he wants to exercise his First Amendment rights. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: those are protected. He has that right. Secondly, he could
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  Speaker 2: have chosen to go there and not bring a firearm. Now,
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  Speaker 2: lots of folks on x are going back and forth
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  Speaker 2: saying the Second Amendment, you got a right to bring
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  Speaker 2: your gun, and you're right, you do.
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  Speaker 3: You do have a right to bring your gun.
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  Speaker 2: That being said, if you are going into an environment
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  Speaker 2: where there is a reasonable possibility that you will get
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  Speaker 2: at a violent confrontation with law enforcement. My advice to everyone,
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  Speaker 2: leave your damn gun home. If you are anticipating violent
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  Speaker 2: confrontation with law enforcement, you're having a gun.
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  Speaker 1: If you're different to get arrested, if you're wanting to
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  Speaker 1: get a mug shot that day, and there's some protests
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  Speaker 1: that got there and I want to get arrested, it's
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  Speaker 1: and if you're going to fight the police, there's two
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  Speaker 1: by the way, there's two different types of being arrested.
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  Speaker 1: You go back to civil rights, and there was and
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  Speaker 1: Martin Luther King was a perfect example of this. Many
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  Speaker 1: times they knew they were going to be arrested, but
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  Speaker 1: they did in a very peaceful manner. Fighting police officers
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  Speaker 1: while having a firearm on you is always stupid. You're
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  Speaker 1: putting your life at risk. As my dad said, we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about this, and he's obviously life and law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: I carry a gun. When I'm pulled over. The first
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  Speaker 1: thing I do is I tell that police officer I
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  Speaker 1: have a gun. Absolute you to know it. What do
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  Speaker 1: you want me to do? I can either take it off,
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  Speaker 1: I can put on the fourboard. It's on my whole shirt,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on my waist whatever. But you don't you
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  Speaker 1: have a right to carry a gun, and I think
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  Speaker 1: this is one of those things. I think it's important
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  Speaker 1: we make it clear. I'm in favor of people carrying
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  Speaker 1: a gun you are as well. What I'm not in
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  Speaker 1: favor of is saying that carrying a gun while fighting
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  Speaker 1: a cop is somehow protected as part of your Second Amendment.
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  Speaker 1: That is not how it works. And there's too many
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  Speaker 1: people out there that like, well, so now you guys
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  Speaker 1: are saying you're not in favor the Secondment. Now I'm
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  Speaker 1: in favor of the Secondmendment. I'm also in favor of
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  Speaker 1: you not fighting law enforcement while having a gun on
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  Speaker 1: your person and putting their lives at risk, because you're
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  Speaker 1: putting their lives at risk and your own life at risk.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to get that off my chest because
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  Speaker 1: I've been seeing these internet warriors and they drive me insane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, just because you have a right to
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  Speaker 2: do something doesn't mean that doing it in those circumstances
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  Speaker 2: isn't stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, if you.
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  Speaker 2: Are anticipating getting in a violent confrontation with police officers,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, that's stupid in and of itself. You
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  Speaker 2: should not get in a violent confrontation with police officers.
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  Speaker 2: But if you are entering in an environment where you
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  Speaker 2: see that as a reasonable possibility. If you have an
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  Speaker 2: IQ that breaks room temperature, any firearm you have, leave
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  Speaker 2: it at home. Why Because in a violent confrontation with
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement, if you have a firearm, the odds of
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  Speaker 2: that confrontation escalating rise dramatically. Look, police officers don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you intend to use that firearm uh to to
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: commit harm, to harm others, or to harm them. We
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  Speaker 2: are seeing sadly leftists targeting ice agents for murder. And
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  Speaker 2: and if you have that firearm and you're engaged in violence,
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  Speaker 2: the agent's perception of the physical threat to them is
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  Speaker 2: understandably much much higher.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Had that individual left his gun at home, he almost
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  Speaker 2: certainly would be alive today. And Third, I'd say, don't
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  Speaker 2: engage in a violent confrontation with law enforcement. Don't and
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  Speaker 2: and and listen many of the I.
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  Speaker 1: Wish the governor Waltz would also say the same thing
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  Speaker 1: you're saying right now. I wish the mayor would say
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  Speaker 1: the same thing as well, because they're out there basically
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  Speaker 1: saying they're not going to risk their lives. They're wanting
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  Speaker 1: people to hire people and and and to encourage others
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  Speaker 1: to show up and and and basically go out there
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  Speaker 1: and risk their lives. They're going to stay in their mansions.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to stay back in their billion dollar yachts
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  Speaker 1: writing these checks to these protesters and follow the money.
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  Speaker 1: But you've got a governor and a mayor there that
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  Speaker 1: are that are deliberately, i would say, putting their citizens'
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  Speaker 1: lives at risk and encouraging it. They're not pulling back.
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  Speaker 1: After we saw the last lady that was shot when
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  Speaker 1: she was running over an ICE agent with a two
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  Speaker 1: ton car, They've encouraged more of that, which I also
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  Speaker 1: think is very sick for them as an elected official.
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  Speaker 2: It is reckless and it is irresponsible, and they're doing it,
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  Speaker 2: I will say, from the political agenda of a leftist,
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  Speaker 2: seeing more civilians killed in confrontations with ICE agents.
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  Speaker 3: Furthers their political agenda.
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  Speaker 2: They want ICE delegitimized, they want enforcing our federal immigration
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  Speaker 2: laws delegitimized. Why Because they supported for four years open borders.
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  Speaker 2: They've decided they are a radical open borders party. And
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  Speaker 2: every single shooting you have, particularly with someone who is
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  Speaker 2: not a trender Aragua gang member, an MS thirteen gang member,
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  Speaker 2: someone who appears to be a mother of three or
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  Speaker 2: an ICU nurse. Every shooting that happens, unfortunately, we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: Democrats in the media use to inflame the tensions, to
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  Speaker 2: divide us more and to distract from the absolute scandal
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  Speaker 2: of nine billion dollars stolen by Somali fosters in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: This is the guy I Jel free card, and we
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  Speaker 1: need to connect that dot for people, so toy understand.
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  Speaker 1: I truly believe that that the Democratic Party as a whole,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: certainly the governor and the mayor, they need a distraction
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: from the billions that were stolen and their connection and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: their donations that came to them from some of these
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: people that are even in jail now. They need this
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: to go away. They I think every time there's a
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: shooting there they think, great, we're getting away from that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: scandal and this is the new thing. So this is
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: working out perfectly for us. That also is a part
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of this the politics that people have to understand.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I think that is absolutely right, particularly because I think
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: many of those Democrat politicians are complicit and face their
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: own liability for what is today the most massive taxpayer fraud.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: That has ever been discovered.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: There may be larger ones in states like California and
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: New York, but Minnesota is right now the single largest
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: in the history of America. And the Democrats really, really
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: really want everyone.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: To forget that. Let me say something else.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's an accident that this is happening
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. Minneapolis is where the George Floyd riots began.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: It's where the Black Lives mattered, Antifa riots began, where
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the looting began, where the fire bombing of police cars began,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: where the violence began, and there has grown up an organized,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: funded resistance in Minneapolis that operates in many ways like
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: a military force. Operates with intelligence, operates with millions of
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: dollars behind it, operates with surveillance, operates by targeting law
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: enforcement agents, operates by sending people in to deliberately obstruct
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: law enforcement including you had one of these, one of
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: these instances, one detainee bit the finger off of a
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: law enforcement agent. You had another person who was arrested
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: who had spikes that she was putting to blow the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: tires out on law enforcement vehicles, and she was arrested
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: with a whole bag full of those. They are engaged
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: in not just peaceful protests standing there holding a sign,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: but deliberately active, violent protest designed to stop law enforcement
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: from arresting the criminals. And there's real money behind it,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and and and and listen, I would call upon DJ
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and the FBI follow the money in Minnesota.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: And you see.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Report after report after report of people being surveilled, of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: people being stopped on the street and asked for their identification,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: not by law enforcement but by these rogue militias, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and and you know, the Democrats of the media were
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: really fond.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: For a long time of using the word in.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, they love that word.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: A violent effort to take over a city is in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: fact an insurrection, sustained engage in violence, funded and we
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: are seeing that. And indeed we've seen I've seen pictures
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: on X the parts of Minnesota where where they're building
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: walls and trying to create an autonomous zone. And it
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: is exacerbated by the fact that the Democrat politicians are
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: handcuffing the police so that the local police are not
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: able to do their job. And I'm certain those police
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: are deeply frustrated by the politician bosses that prevent them
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: from doing their job.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: By the way, what you just said is the perfect
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: segue in the second subject that I want to cover,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and that is Democrats right now are trying to find
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: any way they can to fight back and to hurt
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump because approval ratings give you your power in Washington,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: d C. Especially if you're dealing with rhinos on the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: House side or even on the Senate side. Right if
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: they look at the poll numbers more than anybody they
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: want to read and not to stand with President Trump
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: on certain issues. That's how Washington works, and what we're
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: now witnessing is Democrats, I think, feel like this issue
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: plays to their base, It engages their base, and they're
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: now going to use it to justify another government shut down.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: This is my opinion. I want to get your thoughts
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: on it because I think that we're headed there for
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: this reason where they're like, hey, we have a justification
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: now for what we want to get rid of ice.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Where we get rid of ice funding funding for them?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Is that wor' showing the government down over? Are you
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: seeing the way I'm seeing it now that this is
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: where we're headed.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, But before we get the shutdown, I want to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: point out because politically it's more than just their base. Yes,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: it is true that these violent protests energize their base, drives, turnout,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: drives fundraising. The crazies get all the more excited the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: more violence the Left foments. But it's about more than that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: It's also about totally capturing the news cycle, taking the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: fraud and corruption out of the news cycle. That's a
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: totally separate objective that is critically important to them. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: there is a third one ben which is not the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: base of the Democrat Party, but rather moderate women, soccer
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: moms who may not be deeply politically engaged, and historically
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: moderate suburban women have been a swing vote. If you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: look in the last decade, the two most predominant political
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: movements we've seen is that we've seen number one, blue
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: collar voters moving right. That's moved Midwestern states, states like
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Ohio have gotten a lot red. They used to be purple,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Ohio's now read. But we've also seen suburban voters, particularly
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: suburban women, moving left, and that's moved what used to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: be red states to purple states like Georgia and Arizona,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: both of them just a few years ago they had
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: four Republican senators from Georgia and Arizona. We now have
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: four Democrat senators from Georgia and Arizona. The reason is
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: suburban women in Atlanta and Phoenix move left. The democrats
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of the media are seizing on this to tell stories
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and understand they're looking for not the person that is
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: following every development, but just the person who's living, living
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: their life and taking in what's happening and seeing a headline.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: You know, Ice shoots mother of three, Ice shoots ICU nurse,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Ice apprehends five year old child. That story was everywhere,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: By the way, it's a total lie. It's absolutely false.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: In fact, what happened is Ice came to apprehend the father.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: The father ran off and abandoned the five year old child,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and and understandably, Ice was not going to leave a
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: five year old child alone on the street the death outside.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they would leave alone period. But the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: argument that the left has made, I'm like, let me
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: get this straight. You guys want the kid to be
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: left alone just to wander the streets of a city
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and be alone. That's insane. And then in the winter
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: when they could freeze death, that's also insane. They, by
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the way, found the woman, the mother of the child.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: It is reported they found the mother of the child.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: They knocked on the door, tried to give the child
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: back to her. She wouldn't take him. She closed the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: door and said, no, I won't take him. And so, look,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the purpose of that story is not actually factual journalism.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: It is entirely about telling a story to pull on
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: people's heartstrings and to cause suburban voters who are not
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: paying close attention to say, oh, this has gone too far.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: If they're shooting moms and nurses and arresting little kids,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: clearly it's gone too far. This is a political campaign,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and tragically it's a political campaign that is costing people's lives.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: But because look, the political campaign is having some real effect,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: it is it is having a fact We saw, you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: John Case speaking of suburban women. We saw John Kasik
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: put out a whole video saying, you know, oh, oh,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm hurting so much. We must stop, we
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: must stop arresting illegals.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately that's the target audience. And in the world of politics,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we've got to realize that we've got to confront the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: bad stories with stories that are compelling. And it's where
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: tone matters, and I would encourage Look, the administration is
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: doing a fantastic job securing the border. Illegal crossings have
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: dropped ninety nine percent. It's phenomenal. They're doing a terrific
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: job going and arresting violent criminals, murderers and rapists and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: gang bangers, which is why we've seen the murder rate
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: drop twenty percent. We covered that in the last podcast,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: that the murder rate has dropped twenty percent across the country.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: That's a massive success. What I think the administration could
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: do better is is the tone with which they're describing
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: this that immediately when an incident like this happens, they
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: come out guns blazing that we took out a violent terrorist, hooray.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: And the problem is, particularly for someone not paying attention,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: if you're being told this is a mom of three
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and there's no indication you know, she's not waving an
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: ISIS flag or doesn't have a suicide vest around her, Yeah,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: escalating the rhetoric doesn't help, and it actually loses credibility.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And so I would encourage the administration to be more measured,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: to recognize the tragedy and to say.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: We don't want anyone anyone's.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Lives to be lost, and the politicians who are pouring
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: gasoline onto this fire, they need to stop.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree with you there, and I also think look,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: facts matter. Explaining what happened is very important to five
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: year old stories. A perfect example all the morning news
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: shows abcnbc's they led with that story and ran it
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: into the ground that morning, that a five year old
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: was attained by ice, and they didn't correct that story.
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• 27:42
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• 28:23
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• 28:31
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  Speaker 1: can do for your portfolio. Not only is the Democratic
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Party looking for an opportunity, so is the media. And
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: they now believe that like this civil war and hold
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: this flag up is you know, and planet is, we
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: as Democrats, were willing to shut down the government to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: defund ice. That's going to be the premise, is what
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I've been told from many in the media that I've
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: talked to and some of my friends on the left.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, we're gonna shut down. We're justified this time,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: way more than we were last time. Last time we
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: really weren't justified very much in shutting down the government,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: but we tried it anyway. Now they actually feel emboldened.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Do you think a government shutdown is going to come?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Yes or no?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Yes? One percent?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, and it's going to be tied to this issue, right.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, one hundred percent.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: The last government shutdown, which was the longest government shutdown
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: in US history, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats forced through
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: really to show his radical base that he was fighting
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: because he's scared of being primary by AOC. But they
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: also did it to tee up the issue of health
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: care and the cost of health insurance premium. Mind you,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the premiums have skyrocketed because of Obamacare, because of their policy.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: But they did the shutdown. It was entirely with an
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: eye towards November that they say, Look, we fought like
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: crazy on health insurance, and the mean Republicans didn't give
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: us what we wanted, which was fifty billion dollars in
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: corporate welfare subsidies to giant health insurance companies, and that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: why your health insurance has gone up. Now that's factually wrong,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: but it is a political narrative they're telling here. They
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: are going to tell the narrative, we will not fund
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: ice under any circumstances, and we will shut the government down.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And by the way, the media covered for them so much.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Their base was so happy with the shutdown. I think
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: they perceived very few downsides to shutting the government down.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Now this shutdown that will happen on January thirtieth will
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: likely be smaller than the previous one.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: And the reason is we funded.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Still, Harry, explain, Explain why does that mean they're being
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: more strategic in how they're doing it, or explain.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: That Now between the two, we have passed some appropriations bills.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: So once appropriations bills are passed, those departments are funding.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: So AG, the Department of Agriculture is funded, and so
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: everything that goes through AG is funded, CJS, Commerce, Justice
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and Science that is funded. Energy is funded, Water is funded,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Interior Environment, Ledge Branch, Military construction, and the VA all
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: of those are funded. So the shutdown will not impact
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: any of those. So what would a shut down impact.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: It would impact Defense, the Department of War, It would
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: impact the Department of Labor, It would impact HHS, it
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: would impact the Department of Education. It would impact the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Department of Transportation and Housing in urban Development. It would
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: impact the SEC, the FCC, the independent agencies, and it
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: would impact DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, and ICE
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: directly under that, And I think you're going to see
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the Democrats force a shut down, and actually you don't
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: have to take my words for it here. Let me
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: read for you what Schumer tweeted out to the world.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: He said, quote, what's happening in Minnesota is appalling and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: unacceptable in any American city. Democrats sought common sense reforms
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: of Republican's refusal to stand up to President Trump, the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: of ICE.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I will vote no.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Senate Democrats will not provide the votes to proceed to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the Appropriations bill if the DHS funding bill is included there.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: He is explicitly, unequivocally threatening a shutdown. I think that's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: what we're going to see come Janus.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And by the way, he's not the only one. So
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren was responding to another tweet. I want to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: read it. It was just the tweet she was responding
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to to give it context. As reminder, DHS legislation that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: funds ICE at current levels without policy restrictions is in
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the Senate and needs sixty votes to pass. Deadline is
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: next Friday. Elizabeth Warren puts it out there with this
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and she says, quote, I'm a hell no not a
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: penny more for Ice. We should not fund this terror.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: So she's also jumping on board with this as well.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: And then there's other centers have come out and so
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: this is why I say this isn't a one off.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: This is clearly a coordinated attack, is the best way
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I can describe it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Well, here's Chris Murphy on CNN, give a listen.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I want to ask about what you're leader. Chuck Schumber says,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: the Democrats are going to vote against a government funding
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: package that is before the Senate soon and it includes
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: money for the Department of Homeland Security. How is that
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: going to play out?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Well, we can't vote to fund this lawless Department of
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Homeland Security.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: We can't fund this lawless Department of Homeland Security.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Center.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's pretty bold words you ask me by a center
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that clearly is like, hey, we're all on the same page.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: This is what we're doing now.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, that's the position of every Democrat. And understand,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: this is the same position that is abolish ICE and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: abolish the police. They're saying they're going to refuse to
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: fund the Department of Homeland Security, the department that is
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: charged with keeping us safe, with securing our border with
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: protecting our families, and the Democrats are saying we won't
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: fund it, So what will happen. I think there's a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: chance we see Congress put together an appropriations package that
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: funds everything but DHS, that that might be that might pass.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of DHS, I think the Democrats are going
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  Speaker 2: to force a shutdown, and I think they want it
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  Speaker 2: to be extended and in order.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a short one. To be clear, you
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  Speaker 1: think they want this to be painful, almost like they're
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  Speaker 1: running in the midterms on this issue of ICE.
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  Speaker 2: I think they want to be able to tell their base,
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  Speaker 2: we are funding ice, we are abolishing ice, we are
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  Speaker 2: against law enforcement where with the criminals.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's their messaging.
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  Speaker 1: It is incredible. We're gonna keep covering it. I can
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  Speaker 1: back to the issue of follow the money here. That's
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