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Defining A Recession · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: verdicts of Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles. I was watching
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Speaker 1: the White House today. The Director of the National Economic
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Speaker 1: Council made the claim, in anticipation of Thursday's economic numbers,
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Speaker 1: which will show a recession to consecutive quarters of economic
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Speaker 1: falling down GDP going down, that we are not in
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Speaker 1: a recession, because that is not the definition of a recession. Senator,
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Speaker 1: I am no economist. I have not studied these things
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Speaker 1: in a very long time. But last time I checked,
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Speaker 1: that is literally the definition of a recession. Am I wrong?
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Speaker 1: You're not wrong. That is the textbook definition of a recession.
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Speaker 1: And this White House believes that if they redefine words,
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Speaker 1: so instead of a recession, instead of the economy going
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Speaker 1: to crap, if they define it as Joe Biden's happy
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Speaker 1: go lucky time with things going great, that they're client
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Speaker 1: lapdogs in the corporate media will echo that message and
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Speaker 1: say the economy is booming. A recession is defined as
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Speaker 1: two consecutive quarters of GDP growth going down. That's what
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Speaker 1: it means. They really don't want the headline that we're
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Speaker 1: in a recession going into the election because they recognize
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Speaker 1: the voters are going to pound the heck out of
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Speaker 1: Democrats and throw them out of office for putting us
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Speaker 1: into a recession. So the level of I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is ob one Kenobe, These are not the droids we're
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Speaker 1: looking for. This is George Orwell two plus two equals five.
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Speaker 1: They just say this is not a recession. Why cause
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Speaker 1: we say it's not a recession. Never mind, words have
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Speaker 1: no meaning, Ignore them everything's great. It wasn't just the
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Speaker 1: director of the National Economic Council, it was also then
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Speaker 1: Karine Jampierre, the president's spokesman the press sectory at the
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Speaker 1: White House, who simply refused to answer the question. She
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Speaker 1: was asked by a reporter, if you're not going to
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Speaker 1: use the traditional definition of a recession because you don't
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Speaker 1: want to admit that you've brought us into one, then
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Speaker 1: how do you all define recession? She wouldn't even give
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Speaker 1: an alternative explanation. Well, their answer is they define recession
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Speaker 1: as anything that happens under a republican president, and they
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Speaker 1: define great economic success is anything that happens under a democrat.
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Speaker 1: And it's just it's propaganda, like substance truth. Facts have
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. And so actually this week
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Speaker 1: I'm introducing a resolution in the Senate, and the resolution
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Speaker 1: is very simple. I'm going to read you the entirety
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Speaker 1: of it because it's because it's only just over a
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Speaker 1: page resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that the
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Speaker 1: historic definition of a recession is two negative quarters of
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Speaker 1: gross domestic product growth, whereas globally, the most commonly used
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Speaker 1: and widely accepted definition of recession is two negative quarters
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Speaker 1: of gross domestic product growth, whereas most of the recessions
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Speaker 1: in the United States identified by the National Bureau of
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Speaker 1: Economic Research have consisted of two negative quarters of gross
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Speaker 1: domestic product growth, and in each of the last ten
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Speaker 1: instances in which there have been two or more such quarters,
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Speaker 1: a recession was officially declared ten times in a row.
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Speaker 1: Whereas the use of the historic definition of a recession
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Speaker 1: by the federal government has been important for purposes of
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Speaker 1: economic study and analysis, historical comparisons, and policymaking. Now therefore
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Speaker 1: be it resolved that it is the sense of the
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Speaker 1: Senate that the federal government should continue to use the
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Speaker 1: historic definition of a recession. These guys are trying to
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Speaker 1: define us out of a recession. We are, I think
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Speaker 1: it's extremely likely we're about to enter a recession, and
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Speaker 1: they're trying to play word games to get out of
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Speaker 1: that problem. What is the motivation here for them other
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Speaker 1: than they don't want to admit that their economic policies
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Speaker 1: are no good. But presumably that's true of other administrations
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Speaker 1: in the past. And yet this is the first administration
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Speaker 1: we've seen that actually is denying the definition of the
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Speaker 1: word recession and it's not as though this is the
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Speaker 1: first time we've seen the left use the redefinition of
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Speaker 1: words to try to change the culture. Just last week,
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Speaker 1: we were all arguing over the definition of marriage. Before that,
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Speaker 1: we were arguing over the definition of what a woman is.
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Speaker 1: Before that, We've been arguing over these politically correct changes
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Speaker 1: to language for a very long time. So that does
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Speaker 1: this tactic from seemingly everybody at the White House speak
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Speaker 1: to a larger, deeper problems that's particular to our moment
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Speaker 1: in time. Well, there's a cynicism, So so democrats believe
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Speaker 1: that they can. It's propaganda. There you asked, what's their motivation?
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Speaker 1: Is propaganda? But the propaganda only works because the corporate
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Speaker 1: media is compliant. So the corporate media will echo whatever
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Speaker 1: absurd lies they say, and it is designed to obscure
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Speaker 1: the truth from the American people. Look, I'll show you
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Speaker 1: a couple of charts that are that are pretty compelling.
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Speaker 1: This chart, this is the University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index.
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Speaker 1: And so it goes back all the way to nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy eight. You see it's been down and up it
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Speaker 1: went up, up, up, up. You look that it went
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Speaker 1: up here all right, here's twenty twenty. It is up
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Speaker 1: around one hundred. And here's what the consumer sentiment index does.
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Speaker 1: It plummets. It goes straight down with like the vertical
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Speaker 1: descent of a cliff, down to what is this fifty,
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Speaker 1: So it went from one hundred to fifty. That is
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Speaker 1: an ominous chart in terms of recession consumer sentiment. I'll
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Speaker 1: give you another chart that is really quite similar. So
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Speaker 1: this is the NFIB National Federation of Small Business Outlook
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Speaker 1: for General Business Conditions. So they ask small businesses what
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Speaker 1: do you think business conditions are? And you can see
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Speaker 1: going back to seventy four, it's going up, down, up, down.
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Speaker 1: It's been all over the place. But here in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty it was up here. What was it at It
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Speaker 1: was up at forty and then it's same exact like
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Speaker 1: precipitous plummet It is down now at negative sixty. That
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Speaker 1: ain't good. That means small businesses think the economy's and
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Speaker 1: the crapper. That means consumers think the economy is in
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Speaker 1: the crapper. And so the Biden politicos are saying, well,
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Speaker 1: let's just define it. We don't want every headline in
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Speaker 1: every newspaper in America to say the economy is in
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Speaker 1: a recession because people think that's bad. So let's just
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Speaker 1: magically claim recession no longer means what you think it means.
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Speaker 1: It means, well, we don't know what it means, but
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Speaker 1: it means anything other than what's happening right now, because
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Speaker 1: we really don't want the headline that this is a recession.
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Speaker 1: Do you think this is fooling anybody? Because I'm still
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Speaker 1: trying to wrap my head around how the Biden administration
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Speaker 1: thinks that this is a workable solution in the long term.
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Speaker 1: If we could all just deny our failures by changing
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Speaker 1: the meaning of words, I'm sure we would all be
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Speaker 1: tempted to do it. But the problem with that is
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Speaker 1: people aren't stupid. Most people aren't stupid most of the time.
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Speaker 1: And so you point out that the establishment media are
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Speaker 1: carrying water for the White House. Of course they are,
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Speaker 1: But is that fooling anybody. You've got cynicism from the
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Speaker 1: Biden administration, cynicism and loyalty to the Democrats from the media.
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Speaker 1: But you're a small business owner, your regular old employee,
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Speaker 1: your person on the street who realizes that his dollar
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Speaker 1: is not going as far as it used to. We're
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Speaker 1: headed into a mid term election in November. Are any
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Speaker 1: of these people going to buy it? No matter what
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Speaker 1: definition the White House uses? So unfortunately, I think they
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Speaker 1: will succeed in fooling some people because there are some
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Speaker 1: people who are not necessarily paying all that close attention,
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Speaker 1: and who literally given two worlds, one world in which
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Speaker 1: every newspaper in America has the banner headline America in
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Speaker 1: a recession, and one world in which they don't have
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Speaker 1: the headline in a recession, there's going to be a chunk,
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Speaker 1: and it's millions of people who won't realize America's in
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Speaker 1: a recession like that, Actually, I think will be somewhat
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Speaker 1: successful political propaganda. Why because the media, the corporate media's dishonest.
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Speaker 1: If you didn't have a dishonest corporate media wouldn't work.
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Speaker 1: They'd laugh at him and call them out. But they're
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Speaker 1: enough just absolute prostitutes in the media who will lie
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Speaker 1: and lie eagerly and happily and lay back and think
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Speaker 1: of England. That is who they are, that is what
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Speaker 1: they do, and so I do think it will have
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Speaker 1: some effect. But at the same time, I think what
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Speaker 1: is consequential for economic data is people feel in their lives.
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Speaker 1: So inflation, you don't have all the inflation numbers you want.
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Speaker 1: But when you go and fill up your truck and
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Speaker 1: it's one hundred and fifty bucks, you don't need a
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Speaker 1: chart to know that. When it's one hundred bucks to
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Speaker 1: fill up a minivan, you don't need a chart to
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Speaker 1: know that. When you go to the grocery store and
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Speaker 1: the cost of everything has gone up ten, twenty, thirty, forty,
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Speaker 1: you don't need a chart to know that. You're looking
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Speaker 1: at the numbers going, wait a second, I can't afford
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Speaker 1: the stuff I could afford last week. There are people
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Speaker 1: that are making hard choices between what am I going
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Speaker 1: to spend? If you're on a fixed income and the
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Speaker 1: prices of everything have gone up, you're seeing it firsthand.
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Speaker 1: The two charts I showed small businesses the fact that
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Speaker 1: their confidence is plummeted. They're seeing it consumers. Their confidence
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Speaker 1: is plummeted. So even though they won't have the headlines,
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Speaker 1: they're seeing it every day in the economy. And I'm
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Speaker 1: reminded of one of the classic things Reagan said. He said,
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Speaker 1: a recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a
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Speaker 1: depression is when you lose your job, and a recovery
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Speaker 1: is when Jimmy Carter loses his job. I think that
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Speaker 1: was a beautiful and brilliant point, and I think that
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Speaker 1: is playing out right here today. If you're losing your job,
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Speaker 1: if you're paying more at the gas pump, if you're
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Speaker 1: paying more at the grocery store, if you're feeling the
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Speaker 1: pain of the economic disaster that is the Biden administration.
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Speaker 1: Whether or not you read a headline that says we're
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Speaker 1: in a recession, you know it ain't good. It's even
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Speaker 1: more insidious than all of those inflation numbers that we're
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Speaker 1: seeing because of something we mentioned on this show several
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Speaker 1: episodes back. But you're now seeing the fruit of it
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Speaker 1: because of shrink inflation, which is the other side of it.
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Speaker 1: So prices are going up. Isn't that what George Costanza
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Speaker 1: talked about when he got into cold Pool? You think
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Speaker 1: a related concept, but a little bit different. So we
13:01
Speaker 1: were so the other night, Sweet Little Lace and I
13:04
Speaker 1: were going to have fondue with our friends. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: We felt like we were living in the nineteen seventies
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Speaker 1: or something. I went out to go buy cheese, I
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Speaker 1: had to buy twenty four ounces of cheese. I pick
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Speaker 1: up the various blocks of cheese, and I noticed something
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Speaker 1: a little weird. The amount of cheese in the block
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Speaker 1: had gone down. I looked at the one block of
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Speaker 1: cheese I bought. It was five point nine ounces. Why
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Speaker 1: was it five point No recipe ever in the history
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Speaker 1: of cheese has called for five point nine ounces of cheese. Clearly,
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Speaker 1: what the companies had done is shrunken the amount that
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Speaker 1: they were giving you, and they were either maintaining the
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Speaker 1: price or the price was going up. There's a new
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Speaker 1: report out of The Daily Mail analyzing a number of
13:43
Speaker 1: major brands to show that major cereal companies are reducing
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Speaker 1: the amount of cereal in the box only by two
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Speaker 1: and a half three ounces, but that can be a
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Speaker 1: seventeen percent reduction in the amount of cereal in the
13:55
Speaker 1: box because they were just isn't that much cereal in
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Speaker 1: a box? To begin with? Gatorade docing to an unnoticeable
14:03
Speaker 1: until you really start to look for a degree the
14:05
Speaker 1: amount of gatorade in the bottle. You're seeing this with
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Speaker 1: toilet tissue, You're seeing this with paper towels, You're seeing
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Speaker 1: this with canned coffee you're sees across the economy. So
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Speaker 1: the actual inflation that we are all experiencing is even
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Speaker 1: worse just than the number going up a little bit
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Speaker 1: at the checkout line when you're in the grocery store.
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Speaker 1: So I think you're beginning to see this reality reflected
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Speaker 1: in Joe Biden's polls. Biden now the majority of Democrats
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Speaker 1: don't want him to run again for re election. There
14:34
Speaker 1: was a poll out of New Hampshire where Pete Boota
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Speaker 1: Jedge actually did better among prospective Democrat voters than Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden did. And by the way, speaking of insidious problems,
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Speaker 1: you've got this problem now of mass migration, which is
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Speaker 1: even starting to bother the Democrats in New York. New
14:51
Speaker 1: York Democrat Mayor Eric Adams just claimed that the illegal
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Speaker 1: immigrants were being bust from your state senator up to
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Speaker 1: New York are creating a huge burden on New Yorkers,
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Speaker 1: which is kind of ironic because the New York Democrats
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Speaker 1: always tout how wonderful illegal immigration is and how it's
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Speaker 1: our great strength. Well, if it's a great strength for
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Speaker 1: Texas and Arizona, why is it all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: a burden when you Democrats have to deal with the
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Speaker 1: problem in your state. I know you were just down
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Speaker 1: there touring the border yourself, seeing at firsthand, so I
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Speaker 1: was let me say the point you just made a
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Speaker 1: minute ago, I think is important, which is, the last
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Speaker 1: week we saw the mayor of New York City and
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Speaker 1: the mayor of Washington, DC, Eric Adams and Muriel Bowser
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Speaker 1: both publicly complain about the enormous burden illegal immigration is
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Speaker 1: putting on DC in New York City. Now, for blue state,
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Speaker 1: Blue city Democrats to be whining about illegal immigration is
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Speaker 1: rich with hypocrisy at a level. That is, if they
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Speaker 1: think it's bad, what do you think South Texas is experiencing?
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Speaker 1: What do you think Laredo and McCallan, an Eagle Pass
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Speaker 1: del Rio are experiencing. And by the way, if they
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Speaker 1: want to solve it, both of them are enthusiastic supporters
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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden and all the Democrats. It's the Democrats
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Speaker 1: who have caused this. So you mentioned I just got
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Speaker 1: back from the border. So two weeks ago, I took
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Speaker 1: a trip to the southern border. I brought seven senators
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Speaker 1: with me. I've been to the border a lot, and
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Speaker 1: the ten years I've been in the Senate, I've gone
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Speaker 1: dozens of times down to the border. It is the
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Speaker 1: worst right now that I have ever seen it. We
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Speaker 1: got down there Thursday night. First thing we did is
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Speaker 1: we went out on midnight patrol with the border patrol.
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Speaker 1: Now you go out on midnight patrol, you might think, Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna go hunt free legal aliens to see if
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Speaker 1: you can find them. You don't hunt for him. Within
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Speaker 1: minutes you encounter them. You just go down to the
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Speaker 1: border and you find them. And we were there three
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Speaker 1: four minutes. First group we saw was three teenagers, two
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Speaker 1: girls and a boy. They all said they were sixteen
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Speaker 1: or seventeen years old. Night. I don't know if they're
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Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen, because if they say they're under eighteen,
16:54
Speaker 1: they definitely stay. If they're eighteen, there's a chance the
16:58
Speaker 1: law might be enforced against them, So every one of
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Speaker 1: them claims to be under eighteen. The second group was
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Speaker 1: a group of women and children, about a dozen people.
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Speaker 1: In that group were two seven year old girls. We
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Speaker 1: talked to them. Both of the seven year old girls
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Speaker 1: were unaccompanied minors, so they didn't have a parent with them.
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Speaker 1: They didn't have a family member with them. They weren't sisters,
17:22
Speaker 1: they weren't related to each other. So both of them
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Speaker 1: were seven year old girls that their families had handed
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Speaker 1: over to criminal drug cartels. They were with strangers in
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Speaker 1: this group. I got to say, as the father of daughters,
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Speaker 1: I cannot imagine handing us your seven year old daughter
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Speaker 1: over to drug cartels. The border patrol we were down
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Speaker 1: on the border. They pointed us to a patch of grass.
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Speaker 1: It was a couple hundred yards away from where we were.
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Speaker 1: They said, a couple of weeks earlier they had found
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Speaker 1: two little girls, aged five and six, both of whom
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Speaker 1: had been violently raped by the chaos, and the border
18:02
Speaker 1: patrol had to perform emergency medical care on these little
18:05
Speaker 1: girls that had been badly violated. The thing that is
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Speaker 1: infuriating is this is happening literally every hour of every day.
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Speaker 1: This was within five or ten minutes of being down
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Speaker 1: on the border, and then we encountered another group, and
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Speaker 1: another group, and another group. It's a constant stream of humanity,
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Speaker 1: a people being brutalized, people being abused, people being assaulted,
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Speaker 1: people being sexually assaulted. The Democrats pitched their open border
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Speaker 1: policies as humane and compassionate. It's not humane, it's not compassionate.
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Speaker 1: It is horrific and indefensible. Do you think there is
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Speaker 1: any hope of anything being done about it before we
18:48
Speaker 1: get a Republican in the White House? Ordinarily I would
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Speaker 1: say no, there's no hope that Democrats want to keep
18:53
Speaker 1: going because they think it gives them a political benefit.
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Speaker 1: But when you see New York, when you see DC,
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Speaker 1: when you see liberal mayors complaining about this because red states,
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Speaker 1: finally Greg Abbott down in Texas are shipping some of
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Speaker 1: the illegal aliens up to those blue places so they
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Speaker 1: can deal with it, do you think there is any
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Speaker 1: chance that that pressure from the Dems will encourage the
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Speaker 1: Biden administration to in any way start enforcing the law.
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Speaker 1: So I do think there's hope, And let me flesh
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Speaker 1: out because it's important to understand how completely indefensible it
19:31
Speaker 1: is what's going on down in the southern border. Nobody
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Speaker 1: who's there is defending it, like if you see it.
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Speaker 1: We met with landowners, with ranchers and farmers. They showed
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Speaker 1: us photograph after photograph of dead bodies they find on
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Speaker 1: the ranches. They find pregnant women that the coyotes abandoned
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Speaker 1: in the hot desert. They die that they find elderly people,
19:50
Speaker 1: they find children, just over and over again who die
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Speaker 1: because these human traffickers, they are vicious, inhumane criminals. They
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Speaker 1: do not care about the people they're trafficking in. As
20:04
Speaker 1: you know, a few weeks ago, we had attracted trailer
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Speaker 1: just outside of San Antonio. Fifty three people died in
20:10
Speaker 1: that tractor trailer. They died of heat exposure. They were
20:14
Speaker 1: basically cooked in an oven that included children as young
20:17
Speaker 1: as thirteen years old. You want to talk about mass murders,
20:20
Speaker 1: fifty three people killed. Last year, we had over one
20:25
Speaker 1: hundred thousand drug overdoses from fennol. The Biden body bags
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Speaker 1: keep piling up because these are the human cost and tragedy.
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Speaker 1: And you know, there's a reason Joe Biden has not
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Speaker 1: been to the border once. There's a reason Kamala Harris,
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Speaker 1: who's ostensibly the borders are for Biden, has not been
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Speaker 1: to the Rio Grand Valley once because if they came,
20:50
Speaker 1: the TV cameras have followed them and you cannot defend
20:54
Speaker 1: what's happening. Their only hope, and it actually goes back
20:58
Speaker 1: to the recession. It's the point where are making before
21:01
Speaker 1: about redefining recession. They're counting on the corrupt corporate media
21:05
Speaker 1: lying and just ignoring it. So if you watch CNN,
21:09
Speaker 1: if you're one of the six people on planet Earth
21:11
Speaker 1: who watch a CNN, you have no idea there's a
21:15
Speaker 1: border crisis because they don't cover it. CNN had you know.
21:19
Speaker 1: I watched the other day. I got a haircut in
21:21
Speaker 1: the barbershop. They were playing CNN, which I was kind
21:24
Speaker 1: of irritated about, but I watched for thirty minutes. They
21:26
Speaker 1: talked about how it's really hot. It's hot in New
21:29
Speaker 1: York City and people are going out and they're dancing
21:31
Speaker 1: in fountains because it's really hot. And I'm like, okay, fine,
21:34
Speaker 1: I get it, it's summertime, it's hot, but could you
21:37
Speaker 1: possibly cover the humanitarian crisis that is unfolding on our
21:44
Speaker 1: southern border. So Michael I stood at midnight on the
21:49
Speaker 1: northern bunk of the Rio Grand and on the ground
21:54
Speaker 1: you saw hundreds of colored wristbands. The wristbands are worn
21:59
Speaker 1: by the illegal limit prints. So every illegal immigrant who
22:03
Speaker 1: comes to America must pay the Mexican drug cartels, and
22:06
Speaker 1: they pay them anywhere typically from three thousand to twelve
22:10
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Some of the immigrants from China in particular
22:14
Speaker 1: pay as much as fifty to seventy thousand dollars. The
22:18
Speaker 1: only way you cross is to pay a cartel. If
22:20
Speaker 1: you try to cross on your own, if you get
22:22
Speaker 1: an a raft and swim, the cartels will kill you.
22:25
Speaker 1: Like there is one hundred percent operational control on the
22:28
Speaker 1: southern border on the south from the cartels. So when
22:33
Speaker 1: people cross, the armbands they're wearing, the color corresponds to
22:38
Speaker 1: how many thousands of dollars they owe the cartels. So
22:41
Speaker 1: depending on how many thousands of dollars they owe, because
22:43
Speaker 1: many of these people don't have three, four, five, ten,
22:46
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars, so they come in and they're in
22:49
Speaker 1: hack five to six seven thousand dollars. So what happens
22:53
Speaker 1: when they get here, The border patrol doesn't catch them.
22:58
Speaker 1: It's not a chase, it's not an apprehension. They come
23:01
Speaker 1: and affirmatively look for the border patrol. They come and
23:04
Speaker 1: turn themselves in. The Biden administration has actually put arrows,
23:08
Speaker 1: like from the river bank up to where the border
23:11
Speaker 1: patrol is to guide the guide the people. Just a
23:13
Speaker 1: steady stream of people. They come carrying a plastic baggie.
23:18
Speaker 1: Within the baggie they have a typically a card with
23:22
Speaker 1: a name of somebody in the United States, a phone number,
23:24
Speaker 1: and an address. And Joe Biden, Kamala Harris are the
23:27
Speaker 1: last mile of the human trafficking network. Now you might think,
23:32
Speaker 1: if you don't live in Texas or Arizona, you know,
23:36
Speaker 1: live in a border state, you might think, well, this
23:38
Speaker 1: is bad, but it's not my problem. Well, you know
23:40
Speaker 1: what you do live in a border state, Michael, You
23:43
Speaker 1: live in Nashville. Nashville is not on our southern border.
23:48
Speaker 1: Every city in America. Joe Biden is flying illegal immigrants
23:52
Speaker 1: to those cities. So you have them in Nashville, and
23:55
Speaker 1: the teenage boys arrive and most of them owe the
23:58
Speaker 1: cartels still thousands of dollars. They have to pay it
24:01
Speaker 1: back because if they don't pay it back, the cartels
24:04
Speaker 1: will murder their families. And so in Nashville, Tennessee, you
24:08
Speaker 1: have teenage boys who are illegal immigrants who are paying
24:11
Speaker 1: back the thousands of dollars they owe the cartels by
24:15
Speaker 1: working for Mexican drug cartels. So you have criminals who
24:18
Speaker 1: are being and these are involuntary criminals. They came seeking freedom,
24:23
Speaker 1: but now they're in hawk to a drug cartel. So
24:25
Speaker 1: they got to work off their debt. And I got
24:27
Speaker 1: to tell you, as bad as it is for the boys,
24:31
Speaker 1: the girls have it much much worse the girls. There
24:35
Speaker 1: are thousands upon thousands of teenage girls who end up
24:40
Speaker 1: getting trapped in sex slavery where they owe thousands of
24:44
Speaker 1: dollars to the cartels. Cartels said, great, we'll help you
24:46
Speaker 1: pay it off. We'll put shit a brothel. And the
24:49
Speaker 1: brothels are run like modern day plantation. So they keep
24:53
Speaker 1: a ledger and they charge the girls and the brothels
24:57
Speaker 1: for everything. They charge them for food, for room for
25:00
Speaker 1: or they charge them for air conditioning, they charge them
25:02
Speaker 1: for their sheets, they charge them. I'm told the going
25:05
Speaker 1: rate to cut off an ankle bracelet, if you have
25:07
Speaker 1: an ankle monitoring bracelet is thirty dollars. So they keep
25:10
Speaker 1: a ledger and it's like the old plantations where the
25:12
Speaker 1: debt keeps piling up and then they work in the
25:15
Speaker 1: brothel to try to pay the debt off and they're trapped.
25:18
Speaker 1: And if you think for a minute, let's say you're
25:20
Speaker 1: a Honduran fifteen year old girl, and you look north
25:24
Speaker 1: and you dream of freedom. You want to be in America,
25:28
Speaker 1: you want to be free, and six months later you're
25:31
Speaker 1: trapped in sex slavery in hell. That's why Biden and
25:38
Speaker 1: the Democrats don't want to defend this because when you
25:40
Speaker 1: talk about those facts, Look, those colored wrist bands are
25:46
Speaker 1: like the leg irons of modern day slavery. This is
25:50
Speaker 1: the slave trade. These cartels are slave traders, and Joe
25:55
Speaker 1: Biden and Kamala Harris are facilitating today's our cost slavery.
26:01
Speaker 1: It is horrific, it is evil, it is wrong, and
26:06
Speaker 1: your question is can we do anything about it? Here's
26:09
Speaker 1: one thing we can do about it. When in November,
26:12
Speaker 1: when a huge margin in November, I think we're going
26:14
Speaker 1: to turn South Texas read because the people in South
26:17
Speaker 1: Texas are seeing this and they're horrified. And then I
26:20
Speaker 1: think one of the very first priorities of the new
26:24
Speaker 1: Republican Congress should be to impeach Alejandra may Orchis, who
26:28
Speaker 1: is the Secretary of Homeland Security. He is responsible for
26:32
Speaker 1: this tobaccle. I recently saw a video of him at
26:36
Speaker 1: the Aspen Security Conference where he was asked is the
26:40
Speaker 1: border secure and like the whole crowd of leftist sipping chardonnay,
26:45
Speaker 1: they all laughed, Oh that's so funny. Ha ha. You know,
26:48
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't think little girls being raped on
26:51
Speaker 1: our southern border is funny. You jackasses like like like,
26:55
Speaker 1: it is infuriating to watch these liberals laughed and he
26:59
Speaker 1: says the is secure. It's a flat out lie. The
27:04
Speaker 1: reason I believe the House should impeach Mayorcas early next
27:08
Speaker 1: year is the Senate should conduct an impeachment trial, and
27:13
Speaker 1: it should be a detailed, extensive impeachment trial. We need
27:17
Speaker 1: to put the evidence of the horrors of the southern
27:20
Speaker 1: border before the American people because the corporate media doesn't
27:24
Speaker 1: want people to know, and I think we have a responsibility. Now, look,
27:27
Speaker 1: do I think Senate Democrats are going to vote to
27:29
Speaker 1: convict No. I think they're political cowards. But I think
27:36
Speaker 1: laying out the facts before the American people in a
27:38
Speaker 1: trial early next year is incredibly important. Do you think
27:44
Speaker 1: that the House can do it politically? I suppose they
27:47
Speaker 1: can do it if they get the numbers. But does
27:51
Speaker 1: what may Orcus has done or failed to do meet
27:55
Speaker 1: the legal threshold to impeach them? I think not only
27:59
Speaker 1: can they do, I think they will do it. And
28:02
Speaker 1: it's listen, I've been When I was on this border trip,
28:05
Speaker 1: I publicly called in the House to impeach Mayorcus. I
28:08
Speaker 1: think the momentum is growing for that. I think the
28:11
Speaker 1: pressure will be there. I will be surprised if they
28:13
Speaker 1: don't impeach may Orcus. They may well impeach Biden as well,
28:16
Speaker 1: and we've talked about that before on the podcast. But
28:19
Speaker 1: Mayorcas is as close to a no brainer. He'll be
28:23
Speaker 1: the first, and he'll be the first because it is
28:27
Speaker 1: such an abject dereliction of duty. It is a refusal
28:31
Speaker 1: to follow the law. It is a refusal. It is
28:35
Speaker 1: an open scoffing at the national security of the United
28:38
Speaker 1: States is endangering Americans. I think the House will impeach him,
28:42
Speaker 1: and I think the trial, I hope, will be an
28:46
Speaker 1: incredibly important Even as corrupt as the media is, I
28:49
Speaker 1: think that the impeachment trial will be very difficult for
28:54
Speaker 1: the media to ignore. I know a great impeachment trial
28:56
Speaker 1: podcast that can just relocate to DC for it. I
28:59
Speaker 1: think it'll be a lot of fun. Speaking of this
29:02
Speaker 1: red wave that a lot of people are anticipating, Senator,
29:05
Speaker 1: I have to confess I've had a little bit of
29:08
Speaker 1: fomo the past week because I was very excited. I
29:12
Speaker 1: was invited to go to the Young America's Foundation Conference,
29:15
Speaker 1: their big annual conference, and I was invited to go
29:18
Speaker 1: to the TPUSA Annual Conference. And these are two really big,
29:22
Speaker 1: really exciting gatherings of young conservatives, and I go pretty
29:25
Speaker 1: much every year every certainly every year I can go.
29:28
Speaker 1: And this year I've been waiting on another young American,
29:31
Speaker 1: my own second son, young American, who is not as
29:35
Speaker 1: of recording, this has not yet come out of mominols.
29:38
Speaker 1: So we're just waiting here. You, however, got to go
29:42
Speaker 1: to both of those conferences and a whole bunch of
29:45
Speaker 1: other places as well. Well, that's right. And let me say,
29:49
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm really excited to welcome the youngest American,
29:53
Speaker 1: and the instant he is born, he will be the
29:55
Speaker 1: youngest American alive. Now, someone will pass them very shortly thereafter,
29:58
Speaker 1: but there will be a brief instant where your son
30:01
Speaker 1: is the youngest American and the entire planet. So that's
30:04
Speaker 1: really cool. Um and and and I am praying that
30:10
Speaker 1: he gets his mother's good looks. Yes, So Luckily our
30:14
Speaker 1: first child did, so we're hoping number two lucks out
30:19
Speaker 1: as well. Otherwise he's going to have to, I don't know,
30:21
Speaker 1: become a conservative podcast host someday. Hey that that that's
30:25
Speaker 1: a booming career. Uh so you know he can aspire
30:29
Speaker 1: to be a conservative podcaster. I will say, it's interesting.
30:33
Speaker 1: So you and I are in a very very small
30:36
Speaker 1: and select group that that goeach heered to both Turning
30:40
Speaker 1: Point USA and a Young Americans Foundation. Now they're both
30:44
Speaker 1: fantastic groups. I think the world of both of them. Uh.
30:48
Speaker 1: They both focus on young people, on college kids, but
30:51
Speaker 1: they get a different crowd. The Turning Point crew is rowtier.
30:55
Speaker 1: They're they're a little raunchier there. They're fun crowd. The
30:59
Speaker 1: the YF crowd is probably a more cerebral and academic crowd.
31:07
Speaker 1: They're a little more buttoned up, more bow tie, more
31:10
Speaker 1: bow tie it ya. But they're both awesome, and I
31:12
Speaker 1: gotta say, almost nobody goes to both. They tend to
31:16
Speaker 1: have like if you look at the speaker list, YAF
31:19
Speaker 1: has one group, Turning Point as another, and there's almost
31:21
Speaker 1: zero overlap. And you and I are in the incredibly
31:25
Speaker 1: small intersection of the venn diagram that is at both
31:29
Speaker 1: and I've done both of them in the last few days,
31:32
Speaker 1: and I got to say, the energy and enthusiasm, I
31:36
Speaker 1: think there are a bunch of young people. By the way,
31:39
Speaker 1: thousands of the people at both conferences are subsubscribers to Verdict,
31:44
Speaker 1: and a bunch of them are new subscribers. So let
31:46
Speaker 1: me say, welcome to the turning Point, new subscribers, Welcome
31:49
Speaker 1: to the YAFF new subscribers. But it is encouraging to
31:53
Speaker 1: see young people who love liberty and are fed up
31:59
Speaker 1: with the sanity we're seeing, and I think that is
32:02
Speaker 1: a really really good sign. It is. And you've been
32:05
Speaker 1: traveling to other places as well. Last I checked. Every
32:08
Speaker 1: time you know, we text or we do a podcast,
32:11
Speaker 1: you seem to be in a new place. Because obviously
32:14
Speaker 1: the midterm elections are coming up, You're going around, you're
32:16
Speaker 1: helping some other conservative candidates, rallying the troops. And I
32:21
Speaker 1: think what's especially helpful, at least from my understanding of things,
32:25
Speaker 1: is getting a sense of where the American people are
32:28
Speaker 1: at right now heading into November. So to give you
32:32
Speaker 1: a sense, the last week or so, I've been in Texas, DC, Georgia, Florida, Missouri, Texas, DC.
32:44
Speaker 1: And that's in I guess nine days. It has been
32:49
Speaker 1: a lot of time and a lot of airplanes. But
32:52
Speaker 1: between now an election day, I'm going to be on
32:54
Speaker 1: the road NonStop. I'm going to spend most of August,
32:57
Speaker 1: most of October on the road campaigning for Senate candidates,
33:01
Speaker 1: for House candidates. We have an historic opportunity. And you know,
33:06
Speaker 1: I'm not on the ballot this year, which is a
33:08
Speaker 1: nice thing about a six year Senate term, so I
33:10
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about my reelection this year. So
33:13
Speaker 1: I'm devoting all my time to helping other people, to
33:15
Speaker 1: going and doing rallies for other candidates. And so in George,
33:20
Speaker 1: I spoke at a gathering of Alliance Defending Freedom, which
33:23
Speaker 1: does incredible work defending religious liberties, group I've long supported.
33:27
Speaker 1: In Florida. I was a turning point. I was supposed
33:31
Speaker 1: to go to the ADF conference as well. You're just
33:33
Speaker 1: giving me even more fomo. I forgot. I was supposed
33:36
Speaker 1: to go to that one, and baby shut that one down.
33:38
Speaker 1: To your senator, you're having all the fun this summer.
33:40
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal, and but you know, every one of
33:44
Speaker 1: the gatherings was the worst off because we will we
33:48
Speaker 1: were Knowles free, which is a terrible condition to be
33:51
Speaker 1: in naturally naturally, But then all of these other places, Missouri,
33:56
Speaker 1: all around the country, and so I hope and I
34:00
Speaker 1: take it that these visits are making you feel more
34:03
Speaker 1: encouraged about November. So Missouri, I was campaigning for Eric Schmid.
34:07
Speaker 1: Eric Schmid is running for senator in Missouri. He is
34:11
Speaker 1: the sitting Attorney general. Eric as a friend. He's a
34:13
Speaker 1: strong conservative. I think he's by far the best candidate
34:16
Speaker 1: in the race. So I did three rallies, started off
34:19
Speaker 1: in the Saint Louis area, then went to Kansas City,
34:21
Speaker 1: and then ended in Springfield. So did a morning rally
34:24
Speaker 1: and afternoon rally and evening rally. And by the way,
34:27
Speaker 1: Eric decided to work me. So I did three fundraisers
34:29
Speaker 1: in addition to three rallies. So raised him a bunch
34:32
Speaker 1: of money and did big rallies, had huge crowds. And
34:35
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I think Eric's gonna win. The election
34:38
Speaker 1: is next week. He is leading the primary. I think
34:42
Speaker 1: we're seeing conservatives uniting behind his campaign. And I think
34:46
Speaker 1: if and when Eric wins, I think he will basically
34:49
Speaker 1: take Missouri off the game board. That I don't even
34:51
Speaker 1: think the Democrats will contest Missouri because he's a strong
34:56
Speaker 1: enough candidate, but that they don't think they can beat him.
34:59
Speaker 1: And so it was in Springfield. I also campaigned for
35:03
Speaker 1: Eric Burleson, who's running for the House, who's a strong conservative,
35:07
Speaker 1: was a great guy. He was at the rally as well.
35:10
Speaker 1: So I will say it was a little complicated to
35:12
Speaker 1: do a rally for Eric Schmidt and Rik Burlison. You
35:14
Speaker 1: had to be like Eric Wander and Eric two. That
35:17
Speaker 1: that was mildly complicated, But but I was encouraged the energy.
35:23
Speaker 1: Every single rally we did was standing room only, like
35:26
Speaker 1: packed houses, and people energized. And I think I've said
35:31
Speaker 1: more than once I want to nominate Joseph Robadette Biden
35:35
Speaker 1: to be Republican of the Year because he will have
35:38
Speaker 1: elected more Republicans than any human being who's ever lived. Well,
35:44
Speaker 1: someone get him a trophy. You're actually I can't believe
35:47
Speaker 1: this is every time you mentioned one of these things,
35:49
Speaker 1: I'm reminded. I also was supposed to go at to
35:52
Speaker 1: Eric Burlison's event, who is He's a great guy, But
35:55
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be okay. Even though I missed
35:57
Speaker 1: all of the fun, extremely enthusiastic conservative events this summer,
36:03
Speaker 1: we will have some very fun live events coming up
36:06
Speaker 1: this fall. You mentioned YAF. We have gone on the
36:10
Speaker 1: road with YAF the Verdict Live Tour before. We're planning
36:13
Speaker 1: to do it again this fall. We're gonna have some
36:15
Speaker 1: more information about that coming up. But that's always fun
36:19
Speaker 1: because we love talking to the conservative students. In some ways,
36:23
Speaker 1: you get even more of a kick out of talking
36:25
Speaker 1: to the wild left wing students, and we plan to
36:28
Speaker 1: be doing all of that come the fall, especially as
36:31
Speaker 1: we look ahead to mid term elections. But that's for
36:35
Speaker 1: then this right now, we've got to take a break.
36:38
Speaker 1: I've got to take a break. You, Senator, are going
36:40
Speaker 1: to stay on and talk with our friend Liz Wheeler,
36:43
Speaker 1: isn't that right, Liz? Hi? Michael High, Senator. Actually, before
36:46
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36:48
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36:59
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37:02
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37:08
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