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Loni Love, Dondré Whitfield, Ericka Pittman, Lloyd Strayhorn and Arian Simone · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: guest is a highly sought after brand architect in various
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Speaker 1: industries including music, fashion, wining, spirits, television, and most recently,
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Speaker 1: the bottle water industry. Pittman is a powerful and respective
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Speaker 1: force in the world of marketing. Over the course of
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Speaker 1: two decades, she's held tight as media companies such as
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Speaker 1: Time Inc. And Via Media Group. She is currently the
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Speaker 1: CMO of Viola Brands, Viola Brands and Epitome Epitome Movie
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Speaker 1: Media Group. She's on the show to talk about her
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Speaker 1: new book, which I have in my hand right here
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Speaker 1: for Mama, what mommy or I said, mom I'm from
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Speaker 1: the South. What Mommy never told just m O M
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Speaker 1: M y not o mm A, I never told you. Please.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. Erica Pittman. How are you doing? Erica? Yehi,
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Speaker 1: how are you sing? I had to get rid of
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Speaker 1: the Southern. You know, it's not what mama never told
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Speaker 1: this what mommy? Mommy, mommy? So where are you from
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Speaker 1: to say mommy? Erica mommy? Well, I am from New York,
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Speaker 1: c C C C. See you say mommy, I say mama.
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Speaker 1: But it didn't you didn't necessarily resonation. Absolutely, I love
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Speaker 1: the title. I have a twenty two year old daughter,
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Speaker 1: so it was definitely when I got my hands on
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Speaker 1: the book, I read it and uh found some nuggets
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Speaker 1: that I just want to share with my listeners doing
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Speaker 1: the show money Making conversation. But first of all, let's
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Speaker 1: get a little background on you. I gave out a
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Speaker 1: lot of interesting Uh you're being called a brand architect.
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Speaker 1: What exactly is that brand architect? What exactly is that
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Speaker 1: we'll sit? Throughout my career, I've been able to really craft,
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Speaker 1: uh successfully craft positioning for pretty much unknown brands. And
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Speaker 1: you know, we have a saying that Blue Flane was
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Speaker 1: taking from unknown to eu fiquitous, so you know, just
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Speaker 1: figuring out a sort of a paradigm on how to
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Speaker 1: take something that might be an idea and bring it
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Speaker 1: to solition in a successful way. Um. Now, it was
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Speaker 1: also I mentioned you grid CMO or Viola Brands. And
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Speaker 1: then you have a Pito Me epit to Me Media Group.
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Speaker 1: What exactly those two are two separate companies talking about
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Speaker 1: Biolo brands. First, okay, first and foremostable and not first
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Speaker 1: and foremost. The first little bit will addressed Viola. So
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Speaker 1: Viola Brands is a cannabis company. We are a vertical,
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Speaker 1: multi state operating cannabis company in California, Oregon, Colorado, and Michigan. UM.
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Speaker 1: Viola is black owned owned by Al Harrington. Man. Har Well,
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Speaker 1: you used to come down there and do some ca
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Speaker 1: with me and Steve Harvey back in Dallas back in
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Speaker 1: the day. Okay, you can go. Yes, everybody loves Al Harrington.
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Speaker 1: You can talk about his family. Yeah, and the brand
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Speaker 1: is actually named after his grandmother, Viola the Fantastic Opportunity UM.
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Speaker 1: And then Epitomy Media Group is my own company, UM,
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Speaker 1: and as your your show focuses on entrepreneurship, I thought
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Speaker 1: it was important to make sure that I mentioned my
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Speaker 1: my own company, which is a moten in your group
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Speaker 1: that focuses on you gotta do logistics and media production. Uh.
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Speaker 1: First project was my my published book, which I'm very
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Speaker 1: excited about and we're working on other content projects and
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Speaker 1: initiatives coming down the pike. So it's good. It's a
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Speaker 1: lot of fun, isn't it really interesting? Like I said,
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Speaker 1: you know, I managed Steve Harvary for twenty two thousand
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Speaker 1: sixteen and I currently managed Steven A. Smith. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I can wake up and tell you exactly what the
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Speaker 1: black pursus were in stage case with what's on, what's
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Speaker 1: what favorite foods for Stephen A. Smith? But when it's
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Speaker 1: when it came to trying to market myself, I realized
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Speaker 1: I didn't know myself as much as I thought I
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Speaker 1: should know. Are we willing to tail? Because you always
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Speaker 1: shut to change yourself. So you're saying, hey, pear to
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Speaker 1: me media group. The first thing out of the box
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Speaker 1: was your book. What have you learned so far about marketing?
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Speaker 1: You know, Erica Pittman, that you didn't know when you
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Speaker 1: first thought that is a brilliant question. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I really struggle. And you know what's interesting is most
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Speaker 1: people that are actually proficient in their craft and to
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Speaker 1: struggle when they focus on themselves, like I just never
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Speaker 1: know they're crazy. Doctors never know they're sick. It's just
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Speaker 1: a running thing. And for me, you know, as a marketer,
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Speaker 1: I can come up with a million ideas for everyone
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Speaker 1: else's projects, but when it comes to me, I really struggle.
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Speaker 1: And part of the reason why it took me twelve
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Speaker 1: years to write this book because I was so obsessed
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Speaker 1: with making sure that it was, you know, my authentic self,
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Speaker 1: and I just wanted everything to be perfect. And I
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Speaker 1: felt like, if I don't succeed at marketing my book,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be a reflection on my ability to
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Speaker 1: you know, do my craft. Um and So I just
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Speaker 1: think as as as an individual, I've put a lot
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Speaker 1: of a lot of barriers on myself and a lot
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Speaker 1: of pressure to over deliver an area that quite frankly
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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily need that much energy. So it's been That's
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Speaker 1: the one thing that I've learned is that, you know,
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Speaker 1: just sort of take it objectively, um and and do
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Speaker 1: what I know how to do. The other thing is
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Speaker 1: self promotion. It is very hard for me, at least
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Speaker 1: to um uh, elaborate about myself. I've done this, I've
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Speaker 1: done that. I'm it's great. It's just ridiculous to me.
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Speaker 1: So what do you tend to discount your accomplishments. You
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Speaker 1: tend to discount your accomplishments. And that's my staff is
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Speaker 1: told that. Go I said, well, I'll tell something like
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Speaker 1: your degree in mathematics. When are you gonna tell us
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Speaker 1: that you worked at I BE? And what are you
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Speaker 1: gonna tell us that you know you're a baker? All
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Speaker 1: these little things that I've trivialized it. Go, hey man, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I just that's just part of my life. But that's
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Speaker 1: part of your life. That's part of your story that
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Speaker 1: you know, because people think, you know, people only know
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Speaker 1: what you tell them. Okay, they can google your name
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Speaker 1: and she's an attractive young lady, and you can also
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Speaker 1: look at your backstory and go, she came from here there.
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Speaker 1: But it's really that journey that we tend to forget
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Speaker 1: when we start to try to brand architect ourselves, you know,
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Speaker 1: coming from that humble beginnings in New York. You know,
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Speaker 1: that is what I wanted to make sure that people
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Speaker 1: understand that when you are a brand architect, the hardest
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Speaker 1: brand to architect is sometimes yourself. Oh yes, that is
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Speaker 1: that is a word. You are one million correct. This
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Speaker 1: was the biggest hurdle in my entire career. Well, you. Well,
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Speaker 1: you dumped a lot of hurdles in this book, the
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Speaker 1: book We're about to talk about, What Mama, What Mommy?
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Speaker 1: What Mommy Never told You? Written by Erica Pittman. Uh.
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Speaker 1: There was a lot of interesting names tied to this book,
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Speaker 1: like Mitty Miller. I met mitsy uh when she was
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Speaker 1: a jet magazine up in Chicago, when I was doing
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Speaker 1: the talk short that went down and said that when
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Speaker 1: she had the bad foot, I think she had that
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Speaker 1: bad at foot. You had something to kill the bad foot,
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Speaker 1: you know. So she wasn't too hot looking, you know
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Speaker 1: when I met her, you know, up there. But then
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Speaker 1: she went on and did the television series, uh, television
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Speaker 1: movie that went there great ratings, I believe down the line.
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Speaker 1: And then I see uh on the back of the book,
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Speaker 1: I see uh, Miss Hilton, who I love, fashion designer extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: She's been on money making conversations. Beverly Bonds, who are
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Speaker 1: long history Black Girl's rocks. She's been on money making conversations.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just letting you know, my friend, that you
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Speaker 1: are in great we are our heritage. So I don't
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Speaker 1: know how I've not met you, you know, I know
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Speaker 1: we know so many people in common. We we have
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Speaker 1: to kind of meet personally space at some point in life.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know you're going on social media. They'll
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Speaker 1: tell you what this person knows. A hundred and forty
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Speaker 1: five people that you know are fifteen people you know
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Speaker 1: that's you, you know you you, You're my six degrees
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Speaker 1: of separation in this world of digital and social media.
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Speaker 1: But but the thing that I want to pull out
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Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the book, because one thing
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Speaker 1: about talking to about a book, you don't want to
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Speaker 1: give away the content of the book, just the things
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Speaker 1: that motivate people why they should buy this book, which
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Speaker 1: says I want all young women to experience their greatest
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Speaker 1: truth and realize their potential. Now, I have a twenty
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Speaker 1: two year old daughter. When you when I read that statement,
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Speaker 1: what do you? What are you referencing for her to understand?
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Speaker 1: I want her to understand her power and her God
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Speaker 1: given talent. We as women tend to diminish who we
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Speaker 1: are and how we show up in the world, and
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Speaker 1: we make excuses for um to your earlier point, um,
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Speaker 1: And I want young women to get very very clear
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Speaker 1: as early as possible, who they are and what they
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Speaker 1: want for their lives because the minute we know and
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Speaker 1: we're rooted and grounded in our purpose and our vision
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Speaker 1: for our lot as, sooner we can get to the
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Speaker 1: business of doing it. I think about you know, being
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Speaker 1: as in Serena Williams or Tiger Woods, who you know,
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Speaker 1: their paths were sort of ordained copper. So at three
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Speaker 1: or four years old, you learn your crass and by
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Speaker 1: the time you're seventeen or eighteen years old after that,
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Speaker 1: So the sooner we can get clear about what we
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Speaker 1: contribute to the world and where we want to be
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Speaker 1: in the world, the sooner we can get to the
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Speaker 1: business of getting that done. Absolutely, Now, it was something
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Speaker 1: you know that I heard you really clear. You wanted
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Speaker 1: to roe, I want to let everybody know I'm an entrepreneur,
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Speaker 1: and that was epp on me media group. Now, women,
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Speaker 1: especially African American women of women of color, are the
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Speaker 1: fastest growing entrepreneurial group in America. And I'm not trying
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Speaker 1: to put your on the spot. Why is that? Why
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Speaker 1: is that? Backup? Look back up? Back up? That wasn't fair.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't fair. Why Okay, because you made note that
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Speaker 1: you were an entrepreneur. That was a conscious effort on
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Speaker 1: your part, and African American women are the growing the
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Speaker 1: fastest growing portion of entrepreneur entrepreneurship opportunities in America today.
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Speaker 1: What is important that you we recognize an as an
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Speaker 1: entrepreneur and also a person of color. You really have
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Speaker 1: a gift. That is a brilliant question. It's funny because
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Speaker 1: I I I say it out loud, because I am
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Speaker 1: learning to own it. Because there is a mentality that
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Speaker 1: goes into being an entrepreneur, and there is a way
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Speaker 1: that you have to operate in your life as an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: And for me, it was it took a very very
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Speaker 1: long time for me to accept that I as an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: As a UM an employee, right, the better half of
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Speaker 1: my career has achieved semendous success working for others and
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Speaker 1: UM and building institutions within the guys of the security
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Speaker 1: of those those companies and someone else's idea, Whereas entrepreneurship
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Speaker 1: is a completely different lane and the methodology that applies
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Speaker 1: to growing within a pre existing organization is radically different
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Speaker 1: from the methodology to being a that's an entrepreneur. So
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Speaker 1: it's important for me to recognize that part of my
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Speaker 1: my life and that part of myself so that I
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Speaker 1: prioritize it because even in my language, I said, well,
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Speaker 1: first and foremost, let me talk about viola. Well, why
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Speaker 1: would I do that if I'm on an interview about
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Speaker 1: what mommy never told you. And so that's my, know,
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Speaker 1: my long standing positioning of building other people's ideas and
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Speaker 1: dreams and not my own. So it's very important that
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Speaker 1: you point that out. And I had so I have
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Speaker 1: to make a conscious effort to own that I'm an entrepreneur,
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Speaker 1: like I had to own that I was an author.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think I was an author for a very
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Speaker 1: long time, and I had a magnuscript done, and it's like,
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Speaker 1: you are an author. You have to own that so
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Speaker 1: that you can lean into that and and build from there.
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Speaker 1: And that was what that original statement meant. Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna call it EP for shot. That's executive producer to
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Speaker 1: run things. A lot of people understand that compare, but
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Speaker 1: you know, but EP run things. EP run things. It's okay.
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Speaker 1: So as we as we go through this book, and
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Speaker 1: I told in her first half an interviewerself, I want
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Speaker 1: all young women to experience their greatest truth and realize
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Speaker 1: their potential. I want to move forward really deep into
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Speaker 1: the book because of the fact that it was one
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Speaker 1: part of the book that really is several parts of
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Speaker 1: the book that really uh really it made me laugh
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that one of the chapters was
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Speaker 1: and they set the bar high chapter uh use with
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Speaker 1: your girlfriend's in Miami and just going girlfriend talk and
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Speaker 1: just talking about the business because it was young professionals
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Speaker 1: in that conversation. And a guy overheard you talking obviously
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Speaker 1: a nosy guy or either he was nosy Erica or
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Speaker 1: you guys were talking a lot. I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but he heard y'all, he heard y'all. He said,
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Speaker 1: what y'all stop? He gave some advice one just to
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Speaker 1: dip into your world and dipped out. I was calling
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Speaker 1: that an angel move because you know, you never saw
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Speaker 1: the guy again. And guess what, why is he talking
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Speaker 1: to us? Okay? And he said, stop talking about what
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Speaker 1: happened and start planning what is next. And that is
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Speaker 1: such an advanced start process that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't do when they start a business or they start
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Speaker 1: thinking about their career. They always complained that they were
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Speaker 1: complaining about bad relationship, complain about it when they got
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Speaker 1: messed over, complaining about jobs, complain about missed opportunities. If
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Speaker 1: you keep looking back about the what ifs, you can't
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Speaker 1: plan what is to come. And that's all he was saying.
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Speaker 1: How important was it for you guys to you know,
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Speaker 1: first ignored the fact he button then to you guys conversation,
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Speaker 1: but they accept the information that he gave you that
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Speaker 1: that became a part, an important part of the book.
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Speaker 1: I felt, yes, yes it was, and it's an important
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Speaker 1: part of my life. UM. And to your point about
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Speaker 1: you know, angel moments, it was so profound that it
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Speaker 1: literally stopped us in our tracks and and for the
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Speaker 1: whole separate conversation. UM. And it's really really and that
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Speaker 1: was where ideally became solutions based in my life. Um.
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Speaker 1: It was just really an aha moment about you know,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what happened. Well, people focus on is
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Speaker 1: what's next. You learn the lesson, you pull the tools,
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Speaker 1: and you move forward. UM. So for me, luckily, it
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Speaker 1: happened early enough on it in my own life and
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Speaker 1: career that I was able to apply it and be
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Speaker 1: tremendously successful. And so to this day, I don't spend
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Speaker 1: a ton of time lamenting over a particular situation, whether
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Speaker 1: it's good or bad, right, because I believe you're only
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Speaker 1: as good as your last sale, and always be closing Glenn, Bernie,
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Speaker 1: uh and the movie and then the other pieces. You know,
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Speaker 1: don't look back, You're not going that way. You have
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Speaker 1: to you have to move forward. So it just it
16:31
Speaker 1: really was an eye opener for me that someone could
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Speaker 1: objective we hear our talking and our cadence and say, well,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute. You know, you guys are spending way
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Speaker 1: too much time on stuff that doesn't matter where you headed.
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Speaker 1: So it was it was a brilliant opportunity for me,
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Speaker 1: one of many that that really helped me through my life. Well,
16:47
Speaker 1: let me let me bring that I have. You know,
16:51
Speaker 1: when you when you manage talent, a lot of times
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Speaker 1: you could only make decisions within your scope of thought process.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can't go to different people. And and
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Speaker 1: you know when when she makes the statement, don't look back,
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Speaker 1: we're not talking. We're not telling you to forget, because
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Speaker 1: it's it's important you remember mistakes, it's important you remember
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Speaker 1: success stories, but not to allow that to stop you
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Speaker 1: from planning your future music. Because your future music, because
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Speaker 1: of the fact fear can stop you. You know, fear
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Speaker 1: failure can stop you. And that's what we're talking about
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Speaker 1: right here. I have never always tell people when you
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Speaker 1: move into a zone in your life where you're uncomfortable,
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Speaker 1: or you're nervous, or you have to think a lot faster,
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Speaker 1: that's good because you're entering a temperate territory that you
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Speaker 1: need to move into to be successful. And that's all
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Speaker 1: that young man uh I was when I call him
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Speaker 1: young man, I'm sure he was worldly when he told you, guys.
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Speaker 1: Otherwise you wouldn't even have to accepted advice if you
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Speaker 1: like twenty years or who's that young food to get
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Speaker 1: out of here? And but for a person had to
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Speaker 1: be somebody who looked like he has some advice to give.
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Speaker 1: Once you guys, that guys got over the shock to
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Speaker 1: him interrupting your conversation. But that's in chapter Set the
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Speaker 1: Bar High. But also in that chapter, which is the
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Speaker 1: funniest chapter to meet, is Knowing Your Value. My boy
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Speaker 1: Keith Scale, and I know him, I know Cleveland. The
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Speaker 1: last time I was in New York several years ago,
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Speaker 1: we ate it, uh at a lunch eight launch. We
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Speaker 1: was talking about some stuff and it made you mad.
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Speaker 1: Because this man was trying to get you more money
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Speaker 1: and you and you thought you about to lose the
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Speaker 1: little bit of money they were offering you. And that
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Speaker 1: is so true. I can't I tell you how many
18:29
Speaker 1: times I've been negotiating these people go hey man, I'm
18:32
Speaker 1: cool with that amount. Hey hey bro, but they got
18:35
Speaker 1: more they got. It's called negotiations because everybody knows how
18:40
Speaker 1: to say no negotiations. Understand that. Now hire me when
18:44
Speaker 1: I say this. If somebody comes to you in an offer,
18:46
Speaker 1: if they come to you in an offer, do not
18:49
Speaker 1: say yes. You give them a counter offer. And you
18:52
Speaker 1: want to give them a counter offer. That's kind of
18:55
Speaker 1: extreme because you know because whenever they come back with you,
18:58
Speaker 1: they're gonna drop off that number anyway. So you don't
19:00
Speaker 1: want to come back or go up a little bit
19:02
Speaker 1: like tem percent. You want to go up like so
19:06
Speaker 1: when they come back, they're gonna drop down below that.
19:09
Speaker 1: So just just tell everybody how he was a person
19:12
Speaker 1: who was experienced. That's what you was missing in this
19:15
Speaker 1: negotiation was experience, and he brought that experience to the table,
19:20
Speaker 1: which leads us into this whole conversation. The important of mentorship,
19:25
Speaker 1: which really lays out a lot of different You mentioned
19:29
Speaker 1: that a lot in your book Male and Female Mentorship.
19:32
Speaker 1: Tell us about that, Erica, Yes, yes, yes, so Keith
19:37
Speaker 1: Quintfield is one of many male mentors in my life
19:40
Speaker 1: that really helped navigate you know, my own personal negotiation
19:44
Speaker 1: skills and business acumen, uh speaks out. Happened to be
19:47
Speaker 1: another really fantastic mentor UM midway throughout my career. I
19:51
Speaker 1: can det another name, but that's my boys. I can't.
19:56
Speaker 1: I can't believe I've never met you. I cannot believe this,
19:59
Speaker 1: Eric Yes, yes, yes, I have been blessed to really
20:05
Speaker 1: interact with some phenomenal talent throughout my life and career. UM.
20:09
Speaker 1: And you know, just one of the things that I
20:10
Speaker 1: learned in that scenario with Keith and even a gentleman
20:12
Speaker 1: by the name of Stephen Gold before Keith, is understanding
20:16
Speaker 1: your worth and understanding how to evaluate yourself in the marketplace.
20:20
Speaker 1: And and also the thing that women need to understand
20:24
Speaker 1: is this is just this is shacked. Women are paid
20:27
Speaker 1: you know, forty to sixty cents on the dollar depending
20:29
Speaker 1: on your race, um, and we are absolutely discounted in
20:34
Speaker 1: every single arena that we enter. So if you ask
20:37
Speaker 1: for a hundred dollars, they're only going to believe they
20:40
Speaker 1: need to give you forty to sixty dollars. And in
20:42
Speaker 1: knowing that you have to come that that and a
20:44
Speaker 1: evaluating yourself in a way that makes sense so proven
20:47
Speaker 1: track record, making sure that your package, your presentation, and
20:50
Speaker 1: your pitch make the most sense to create the sort
20:55
Speaker 1: of the substance for your ask. And then to your
20:57
Speaker 1: point with Sean is asking a little bit more than
21:00
Speaker 1: what you think he wants to get what you mean right,
21:04
Speaker 1: And so when he showed me that, I was so
21:06
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was worthy of the opportunity that
21:10
Speaker 1: was presented to me. So I was willing to take
21:12
Speaker 1: whatever it was they had to give me because it
21:14
Speaker 1: was more than when I even was making in the moment.
21:16
Speaker 1: But what he showed me is I was more valuable
21:19
Speaker 1: to that organization and I needed to leverage that to
21:22
Speaker 1: get what I really wanted. And the rest is history.
21:25
Speaker 1: I've been able to negotiate my salary and ways that
21:27
Speaker 1: have been, you know, really unprecedented for me or anyone
21:30
Speaker 1: in my family. And there's a good segue to first
21:33
Speaker 1: generational UH hurdles, and that's refably what what mommy never
21:37
Speaker 1: told you was about? Because I get so many times
21:39
Speaker 1: people asked me, well, what didn't mommy tell you? And
21:41
Speaker 1: I have to elaborate that my mother gave me as
21:44
Speaker 1: much as she could give me. Why she nurtured, she supported,
21:47
Speaker 1: she directed, she guided, but there's just something she's never done,
21:51
Speaker 1: so she has no no insight on the best approach
21:54
Speaker 1: to doing it. So, you know, as a first generational
21:57
Speaker 1: professional at this level, there there so many things that
22:01
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to do, and a lot
22:02
Speaker 1: of financial gaps for us as a community, and a
22:04
Speaker 1: whole host of other things. And having mentors is where
22:08
Speaker 1: you can tap into that experience and expert chief to
22:11
Speaker 1: get some safe guidance on how to do it successfully. Absolutely,
22:15
Speaker 1: and I just I just was took on the death
22:17
Speaker 1: that you was mad at him and all he was
22:21
Speaker 1: trying to do. Erica, get your money, you get your
22:24
Speaker 1: value together, you know, keeps with I don't not gtal
22:29
Speaker 1: about what he's doing. Absolutely, I know That's why that's
22:33
Speaker 1: why I left, because you go, no, he didn't blow Hey,
22:36
Speaker 1: I was happy. I was. These people wanted me what
22:38
Speaker 1: is he saying? And then he wasn't talking to you.
22:41
Speaker 1: He was just making decisions without you. Okay, whole process
22:47
Speaker 1: and you can leave. Ask me Keith, what I think
22:50
Speaker 1: about that dollar about and you know what you're talking
22:53
Speaker 1: about and you ask anything. I know we're about to
22:57
Speaker 1: wrap up here, but I wanted to talk about It's
23:00
Speaker 1: because so many things I can talk about the book
23:01
Speaker 1: of talking to Erica Pittman um EP in my game
23:04
Speaker 1: Executive Producer. That's what I called it, because she run things.
23:07
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be her self title, you know,
23:09
Speaker 1: because she run things, just things. That's because she run things.
23:14
Speaker 1: UM is a chapter book under defined and Control your
23:17
Speaker 1: Own narrative, which I always talk about, I think in
23:22
Speaker 1: that's uh, That's what I set down with a UH
23:26
Speaker 1: specialist about like to. Wanted to find out who who
23:29
Speaker 1: relates to Rashan McDonald with age group, relates to Rashan
23:32
Speaker 1: McDonald with my colors, what the people are attracted to?
23:35
Speaker 1: They like me casual, they like me to suit and
23:38
Speaker 1: also so I really actually went to somebody to tell
23:40
Speaker 1: me who Rashan McDonald was and who wants to listen
23:44
Speaker 1: to Rashan McDonald. And when you get into the chapter
23:46
Speaker 1: to define and Control your own narrative. You say this
23:49
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty three, you made it out
23:51
Speaker 1: of the projects and was part of the top five
23:54
Speaker 1: percent of income earners in America. Now, lot of peoplen't
24:00
Speaker 1: understand that that's that's powerful. That's powerful because you're now
24:05
Speaker 1: you're non navigating waters. When you go on the grocery store,
24:08
Speaker 1: you just pick things up the way about sale. Just
24:11
Speaker 1: pick it up. Okay, you go buy some shoes. Hey,
24:14
Speaker 1: I have a couple of pairs. Okay, I have a
24:16
Speaker 1: couple of pair. Uh that car. Put put a few
24:19
Speaker 1: more features on that car. I like that. Okay, you know,
24:22
Speaker 1: I don't mind flying first class every once in a
24:24
Speaker 1: while because I'm in the top five. But you don't
24:26
Speaker 1: know these things. And then and the thing about it,
24:29
Speaker 1: you didn't know. And when you look back on it, Erica,
24:32
Speaker 1: you didn't know. That's all it took. That's all I
24:35
Speaker 1: had to make to get into the top five percent.
24:37
Speaker 1: So you mean the rest of the name five percent
24:39
Speaker 1: of America is living under this level. That is an
24:43
Speaker 1: eye opener because it makes you realize that to get
24:47
Speaker 1: to the halves, it's a lot of work. But when
24:49
Speaker 1: you're get in that world, all you want to do
24:51
Speaker 1: is keep it getting to the fourth percent. That's your
24:54
Speaker 1: goal now, and so standing there is rough. And I
24:58
Speaker 1: always tell people longevity is a beautiful thing, but it's
25:01
Speaker 1: a lot of work. I tell people twenty four hours
25:03
Speaker 1: in a day. Always learned how to use every hour
25:05
Speaker 1: in a day. So when you make that statement about
25:08
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty three, you made it other projects.
25:10
Speaker 1: It was part of the top top five percent of
25:12
Speaker 1: income earners in America. Why do you make that statement
25:15
Speaker 1: in your book? Um, I think it's important for you know,
25:19
Speaker 1: those of us that perhaps comes again, we should realize
25:22
Speaker 1: that we you know, it's possible for anyone. Um. You know,
25:26
Speaker 1: I often say everyone can't be open worm free or
25:29
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, who also is a great example of coming
25:31
Speaker 1: from humble beginnings and you know, sort of reaching a
25:34
Speaker 1: pinnacle of success. But everyone can't be those those archetypes.
25:38
Speaker 1: But you know, everyday people, you know, with the right
25:41
Speaker 1: mind frame and the right commitment and persistence can can
25:45
Speaker 1: make it happen. And to your point, it is not
25:48
Speaker 1: as difficult as it seems, because the better half of
25:52
Speaker 1: the world is not necessarily as successful as the five percent.
25:56
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I just I wanted people to see
25:59
Speaker 1: that it's achievable and I'm not just sort of blowing
26:02
Speaker 1: smoke with with my messaging and then my strategies. Well,
26:05
Speaker 1: you're not blowing smoke here. I appreciate the honesty in
26:07
Speaker 1: your book, and you made me laugh. You made me
26:10
Speaker 1: take a little note because I love reading books like
26:12
Speaker 1: your books, because I'd like to believe I'm a successful person.
26:16
Speaker 1: And when I when I read books like you, it's
26:18
Speaker 1: like a master class, you know. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
26:21
Speaker 1: she may remember. Okay, cool, good ras Sean McDonald's is
26:24
Speaker 1: still in the right lanes of success. And that's what
26:27
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26:29
Speaker 1: Never Told You, written by Erica Pittman. H E. P.
26:32
Speaker 1: That's my girl, you know, exacutive producer because she run things. Erica,
26:36
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. Okay, thank you
26:39
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29:02
Speaker 1: talk about her very very funny memoir I tried to
29:05
Speaker 1: change so you don't have to please. Welcome to money
29:07
Speaker 1: making Conversation again. Loney Love than Lonny I'm telling you something.
29:15
Speaker 1: Let me just read this little just what I took
29:17
Speaker 1: from the book, because I want to want to set
29:18
Speaker 1: the stage before we started writing talking about this very
29:20
Speaker 1: funny book and very funny book memoir. In reading this
29:24
Speaker 1: book just came from you. In reading this book, you
29:26
Speaker 1: should remember that I am a comedian. I'm also a
29:29
Speaker 1: television host and an actress and electrical engineer. This is
29:33
Speaker 1: my memoir and tells you about my life. But it's
29:36
Speaker 1: a tale told from a comedian perspective, a comic perspective,
29:39
Speaker 1: and I believe that this entitles me to a good
29:42
Speaker 1: number of liberties. I reordered and combined events and people.
29:46
Speaker 1: I changed a whole lot of names and identified her details.
29:49
Speaker 1: And I've exaggerated and made some things up. Altogether, I
29:52
Speaker 1: hope make your smile or even lad when I have
29:55
Speaker 1: not changed the reality of my life, where I came
29:58
Speaker 1: from and how I've got here today. Ladies and gentlemen,
30:02
Speaker 1: loney love that's beautiful. You know, you know you've been
30:14
Speaker 1: on this show before, and I'm a big fan of yours,
30:16
Speaker 1: and uh you know it always I you know, like
30:20
Speaker 1: I always call you a text you just to let
30:23
Speaker 1: you know I love you and uh, you're just a
30:25
Speaker 1: gifted young lady and never be down on yourself. And
30:28
Speaker 1: I read this book is a journey from Detroit to Houston,
30:31
Speaker 1: Texas to Elsa Gondo to Los Angeles. It all started
30:39
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Tell us about that the start, and then
30:41
Speaker 1: I want to break down some of my favorite chapters,
30:43
Speaker 1: like chapter eight when you were thrown in jail, That's
30:45
Speaker 1: what that is. Has to be the funniest, the funniest chapter.
30:51
Speaker 1: You know, I read a lot of books. Now just
30:53
Speaker 1: tell I'm just telling. I'm talking to Loney Love. Now
30:55
Speaker 1: this is our book. Now, this is something Member one
30:57
Speaker 1: I tried to change, so you don't have to. I'm
31:00
Speaker 1: telling you. I just think everybody should tell their journey,
31:05
Speaker 1: and especially people of color. People don't understand how hard
31:09
Speaker 1: it is for us to make it. That's why I
31:11
Speaker 1: want everybody, especially during the pandemic, to share their story,
31:15
Speaker 1: you know. And so this is my story. I grew
31:17
Speaker 1: up in Detroit and the Brewster Projects, and it just
31:20
Speaker 1: takes you through that whole life thing. Because you know,
31:23
Speaker 1: some people only know me from real or from Chelsea Lady,
31:26
Speaker 1: or you know the shows that Rashan will put me on.
31:31
Speaker 1: Um so, but you know, it's a whole journey, and
31:36
Speaker 1: I just wanted the people to understand, you know, my
31:39
Speaker 1: journey and why I appreciate where i am while I'm
31:41
Speaker 1: I'm vulnerable at times, why I'm sensitive at times, while
31:45
Speaker 1: I'm strong at times, because the fact is that it
31:48
Speaker 1: hasn't been an easy a road and um, I also
31:51
Speaker 1: wanted to inspire and give people some hopes. So that's
31:54
Speaker 1: that's what you're reading. And it's it's just a love
31:56
Speaker 1: letter to my fans, That's what it is. It's a
31:59
Speaker 1: it's an honest letter. And the thing about it is
32:01
Speaker 1: that I've read a lot of memoirs during the show
32:03
Speaker 1: money making conversations. But I love George because it was
32:06
Speaker 1: just funny, but it's also truthful. It was also painful.
32:11
Speaker 1: It was also I was like, you know, I had
32:13
Speaker 1: a reason to cry, I had a reason to feel
32:15
Speaker 1: sorry for you. I had to read it's a root
32:17
Speaker 1: for you, had a reason to call you a fool.
32:19
Speaker 1: You know, girl, that's stupid. Why do you do that?
32:22
Speaker 1: And but one of the things that came out that
32:24
Speaker 1: stood out for me it was like you, you know,
32:26
Speaker 1: it was a point of your life where you were
32:28
Speaker 1: surrounded by blackness. That's why I called in your book
32:31
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, yourself surrounded by blackness protected you. The
32:35
Speaker 1: HBCU experienced a pre view and m the Black sisters
32:39
Speaker 1: of your soarity dealt the Sigma theta. It defined the
32:43
Speaker 1: importance to me right now or why black lives matter
32:46
Speaker 1: that little. When I got to that part of the book,
32:48
Speaker 1: it just it just felt so current to me and
32:51
Speaker 1: why it was important that you you you you you
32:54
Speaker 1: experienced that HBCU experienced and being surrounded by the sisterhood
32:58
Speaker 1: who bailed you out of jail. Uh yeah, yeah, thank
33:03
Speaker 1: you to my starbars. They had you know, they had
33:07
Speaker 1: them credit cards. They was able to do that and
33:09
Speaker 1: they you know, and I had to lean way on
33:11
Speaker 1: the shield that that night almost that hard, which shun.
33:18
Speaker 1: But it's just, um, it's a wonderful story of how
33:21
Speaker 1: you know, at nineteen years old, even though growing up
33:24
Speaker 1: in the projects, I knew nothing about um, the police
33:27
Speaker 1: because my mom always protected me from that. You know,
33:30
Speaker 1: the police never came into projects unless you know, somebody
33:33
Speaker 1: got shot. So I didn't I didn't have this experience
33:36
Speaker 1: that I was in college and I didn't realize, you know,
33:39
Speaker 1: I didn't have to talk. I didn't know nothing about
33:42
Speaker 1: you know, racist cops, and you know, I've never I've
33:46
Speaker 1: never experienced that. So when I experienced it, and the
33:49
Speaker 1: story is so interesting. It goes through the whole process
33:53
Speaker 1: of being arrested, you know, going to the booking center, Um,
33:56
Speaker 1: because I was it was a felony for trespassing, walking
34:00
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. I was putting us, you know, in
34:02
Speaker 1: a sale with you know, murderers and felons and stuff
34:06
Speaker 1: like that. And nineteen years old with no experience. So
34:10
Speaker 1: it's it's it's and it's I'm able to come out
34:12
Speaker 1: of it. But it really does relate to what's happening today,
34:15
Speaker 1: rashaant with what's happening with you know, um, the over
34:19
Speaker 1: police and the people, the inequalities that police have against
34:23
Speaker 1: black people. And it's a story that's relatable. You know.
34:26
Speaker 1: The reason I liked the book is that I kind
34:28
Speaker 1: of understand you're a lot more, you know, because you
34:31
Speaker 1: really outspoken, and you first of all, you're coming from
34:34
Speaker 1: you know, when you're talking about prison or jail or
34:37
Speaker 1: wrong ful or incarcerated, or talk about being to call
34:41
Speaker 1: out by your name, racial statements thrown your way, you know,
34:44
Speaker 1: and people don't really understand. That's why I really when
34:47
Speaker 1: I look at the white people protesting of watching, I
34:51
Speaker 1: really makes me feel good. Maybe they're starting to understand
34:54
Speaker 1: that this is not something we're making up. You know,
34:56
Speaker 1: this is this is something that I know. You can't
34:58
Speaker 1: ever relate to it because being the black is an
35:01
Speaker 1: everyday challenge. I don't care what flag they take down
35:04
Speaker 1: the NASCAR, what flag they take down in message Mississippi,
35:07
Speaker 1: We're still gonna be challenged by our darkness, our color tone.
35:12
Speaker 1: And the thing about it in your book, when I
35:14
Speaker 1: would is the churches, and the church plays a role
35:17
Speaker 1: Miss Evil, Jehovah Witness, you know how she built those
35:21
Speaker 1: Just talk about some of the ladies besides your mom,
35:23
Speaker 1: who played an import defining role in your personnel. There
35:26
Speaker 1: how you look at life, how you look at love,
35:28
Speaker 1: how you look at relationships and all that stuff. Talk
35:30
Speaker 1: about the other women that were important in your life
35:33
Speaker 1: in this book. Well, the love that I developed a
35:36
Speaker 1: black women came from my foundation. You know, I had
35:39
Speaker 1: a baby said her name was Miss Brooke. She was
35:41
Speaker 1: Jehovah's Witness who I spent a lot of my time with.
35:44
Speaker 1: That's where I got my religious backing from UM. I
35:47
Speaker 1: had Miss Eva ice Cream Evil, yeah, even because she
35:53
Speaker 1: was a Bible sudden lady. You know. I had my
35:56
Speaker 1: girl Scout troop leader. And these are women that impacted
36:00
Speaker 1: me so much that they cared for me and they
36:03
Speaker 1: could care me. And this was the foundation that And
36:06
Speaker 1: I think that it's important when they say a village,
36:09
Speaker 1: it takes a village to raise a child. It really
36:11
Speaker 1: really does. But then also is my relationship you know
36:16
Speaker 1: with um men in general was was actually defined in
36:21
Speaker 1: that era as well. And you know, the caring of
36:25
Speaker 1: of black brothers and sisters, you know, was also defined
36:29
Speaker 1: to that. So it's like when I meet people like
36:32
Speaker 1: the fabulous Rashan McDonald, UM, we're able to connect because
36:37
Speaker 1: we're down home people, you know what I mean. And
36:39
Speaker 1: so that's so all of this you can, you know,
36:42
Speaker 1: read about it in the book and you could really
36:44
Speaker 1: see and feel the foundation. But I mean, the thing
36:48
Speaker 1: if anybody I want them to take away from is
36:51
Speaker 1: that if you feel hopeless, UM, if you need some inspiration, UM,
36:56
Speaker 1: understand that you are from a strong stock of people.
37:00
Speaker 1: And we constantly proved it all the time. And I'm
37:03
Speaker 1: just waiting it's coming to bother, tell you something. This book,
37:09
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Speaker 1: and then they talked and that's part of her life.
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40:22
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40:25
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Speaker 1: to leave home, and then she wasn't really ready to
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Speaker 1: go to college, but she saw an opportunity to go.
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Speaker 1: She went. She learned how to pivot. That this book
40:35
Speaker 1: is about pivoting too, because in this book, learning is
40:39
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40:52
Speaker 1: I really like telling the story, telling the truth of
40:56
Speaker 1: bringing levity. At the end of every chapter is a
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Speaker 1: list of jokes because some stories in the books are dark,
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41:17
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41:40
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41:43
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41:46
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41:49
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41:56
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42:06
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43:17
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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation my man Dendre with Phil
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Speaker 1: my brother, Hey brother, let's let's today. You know what, man,
46:52
Speaker 1: I've been knowing you years man, and uh, the humbleness
46:56
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46:58
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47:01
Speaker 1: that there was always look you always had that look? Man,
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Speaker 1: What can I do next? Explain that about that? Before
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47:10
Speaker 1: that I always was like, Man, I love that dude, man,
47:13
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47:17
Speaker 1: and so much in you? Andre because I know that
47:21
Speaker 1: when people really care about someone, they invest in them
47:26
Speaker 1: what's necessary in order to get them to come to
47:29
Speaker 1: the fullness of their life. Many of our children in
47:34
Speaker 1: underserved and underresourced neighborhoods like the one I grew up
47:38
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. If we had the resources, um, if we
47:44
Speaker 1: had the kind of care, if people took the kind
47:47
Speaker 1: of time to invest in our kids, our kids. Look,
47:51
Speaker 1: our kids do it in spite of not having all
47:55
Speaker 1: of those things at times. So can you imagine if
47:58
Speaker 1: they had proper resourcing. One of the things that's um,
48:03
Speaker 1: that's really eye opening in the conversation of what we
48:05
Speaker 1: what we're having about policing right now, is defunding the
48:09
Speaker 1: police in order to properly fund our neighborhoods, right, And
48:14
Speaker 1: our neighborhoods is really funding our children. Right. What do
48:18
Speaker 1: they need? We've got, We've got, we need social work.
48:21
Speaker 1: Our children are experiencing PTSD. They don't have to turn
48:25
Speaker 1: on the television to see violence being committed against them.
48:28
Speaker 1: They're watching it every single day in their own neighborhoods.
48:32
Speaker 1: They're watching it every single day in their own homes.
48:35
Speaker 1: So for me, I know that as a kid growing
48:37
Speaker 1: up in Brooklyn. I was impacted greatly when people took
48:42
Speaker 1: the time to invest energy in me. And so every
48:46
Speaker 1: single day as a man, I know that that is
48:49
Speaker 1: that that's my purpose in life, and that's important and
48:52
Speaker 1: you deliver it. I've seen you and many times with
48:55
Speaker 1: Steve and I and Steve Harvey and I had the
48:57
Speaker 1: mantoring camps. Man were the loan phone call to get
49:00
Speaker 1: you there. Brother, you were there and just was there
49:02
Speaker 1: and was dressed like a star. You was just like
49:05
Speaker 1: a regular guy. You just ready to work. You know,
49:07
Speaker 1: Tennis was home. You know a little little formal pants
49:10
Speaker 1: and they're just a teacher. If that that's all you needed,
49:12
Speaker 1: because you saw something of these young people that you
49:16
Speaker 1: know only you through your effort. And I said you
49:20
Speaker 1: other others there, but you take it personal. You take
49:23
Speaker 1: it personal though, and that's what I like about you know.
49:27
Speaker 1: You know what I saw in all of those young brothers,
49:30
Speaker 1: I saw myself. Yes, So even even I didn't even
49:35
Speaker 1: get invitation to the mentoring camp, I had to reach it.
49:38
Speaker 1: I reached out to Steve Um, to Steve s folks.
49:43
Speaker 1: I got a conversation with one of his daughters. First, Yo,
49:47
Speaker 1: you guys, need to have me there, right, I'm not
49:51
Speaker 1: like I been my way in the in the getting there.
49:54
Speaker 1: And then you know, many of our brothers and this
49:57
Speaker 1: is not a knock on any of them, but many
49:59
Speaker 1: of our brothers ca it made for the day and
50:01
Speaker 1: then they left. I had a conversation. I had a
50:04
Speaker 1: conversation with my with my two kids, my daughter and
50:07
Speaker 1: my son, and I said, I need your permission because
50:11
Speaker 1: it happens over Father's Day weekend, right, So I had
50:16
Speaker 1: a conversation with my daughter, with my daughter and my
50:18
Speaker 1: son to say, I need your permission. I need you
50:23
Speaker 1: to lend me to those kids that don't have a father.
50:27
Speaker 1: So I stayed there the entire weekend. I was actually
50:32
Speaker 1: the only brother there aside from of course brother Steeping myself.
50:36
Speaker 1: I was the only father there, the only quote unquote
50:38
Speaker 1: to left there that was actually their on Father's Day.
50:43
Speaker 1: And I did that because I know that our young
50:47
Speaker 1: you know, our young brothers need to be able to
50:51
Speaker 1: to to feel that like they can tell when you
50:54
Speaker 1: come in to make an appearance or whether you're truly invested, right,
50:59
Speaker 1: they can tell that. Man, they can tell you were
51:01
Speaker 1: you're there for the shine, you're there for that they
51:03
Speaker 1: can tell when you're there for the shine, you're there
51:06
Speaker 1: for the like. Yes, they can, and they and they're
51:09
Speaker 1: mad about it too because it's been done so many times.
51:12
Speaker 1: That's why man is not in there. That's why they
51:13
Speaker 1: won't and that's why they won't listen to you, because
51:16
Speaker 1: they can tell. They can see through that. Right. When
51:18
Speaker 1: you grow up in the street, you learn how to
51:21
Speaker 1: recognize the bs, right, you learn how to like size
51:25
Speaker 1: people up and go, oh man, this dude is making
51:27
Speaker 1: an appearance. As soon as those cameras turn off, watch
51:31
Speaker 1: him turn off, right, they can they can steal it, right,
51:35
Speaker 1: And I wanted those brothers to know, yo, man, no, no,
51:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here. I didn't leave the camp. Matter
51:40
Speaker 1: of fact, the first day at the camp, my first
51:43
Speaker 1: day at the camp, I stayed so long that I
51:47
Speaker 1: actually missed the ride back. Absolutely true, that's a true story.
51:53
Speaker 1: Remember that, absolutely because because you can go you said, hey, man,
51:57
Speaker 1: I need a ride, I need a right you didn't
52:00
Speaker 1: just the man, Man, I've been here dealing with it
52:04
Speaker 1: with the kids, like I ain't got no way back
52:07
Speaker 1: to get to the hotel. That's putting in work, and
52:11
Speaker 1: you know it. Actual need you know, and and the
52:14
Speaker 1: reason I brought that story up and just our relationship
52:17
Speaker 1: because I want to let everybody know why this book
52:20
Speaker 1: is important. There's always been a passion mission for him
52:23
Speaker 1: throughout his life. This finally allows us to read why
52:26
Speaker 1: is it so passionate in the words the book I'm
52:29
Speaker 1: talking about this male versus man um, this is an
52:32
Speaker 1: amazing book. Mr Wield, I'm calling you Mr with phil Okay,
52:36
Speaker 1: because you preach it him. You preach it him in
52:38
Speaker 1: this book. When I got the Moses, you know, when
52:41
Speaker 1: the Moses, I was looking for a plate. I was
52:43
Speaker 1: looking for a plate. I don't looking for I plate money.
52:46
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is that tell us the
52:49
Speaker 1: importance of importance of male versus man. And we're gonna
52:52
Speaker 1: break down some details about it because it some personal
52:55
Speaker 1: stuff that you mentioned in your book that hit home
52:58
Speaker 1: for me, and that's important just the people I knew,
53:01
Speaker 1: a person I knew and I and I want to
53:03
Speaker 1: reflect on that. But tell us the importance of male
53:06
Speaker 1: versus man. Well, you know, there is as as I
53:11
Speaker 1: tee up in the book, and as I often say
53:13
Speaker 1: when I speak that every man that you meet as
53:16
Speaker 1: a male, but not every male that you meet as
53:18
Speaker 1: a man. There's a huge difference between being a male
53:23
Speaker 1: and being a man. So being a male, male is
53:29
Speaker 1: the gender that we were chosen to be, but man
53:33
Speaker 1: is the job that we choose to do. So males
53:38
Speaker 1: look to serve themselves while men look to serve others.
53:44
Speaker 1: They look to be of service. Males look to be served.
53:48
Speaker 1: There is a huge difference between being a male and
53:51
Speaker 1: being a man, and many of our brothers, their development
53:56
Speaker 1: into manhood gets arrested at a very specific and early age,
54:02
Speaker 1: particularly when they don't have their father around to give
54:07
Speaker 1: them manhood messaging. Now, watch of this. Just because you're
54:11
Speaker 1: there the person who gave you their DNA in your
54:16
Speaker 1: biological father, just because you have them in your life
54:20
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that you're gonna get the messaging that
54:23
Speaker 1: you need in order for you to matriculate in the manner.
54:25
Speaker 1: Because what if your father never got the messaging that
54:28
Speaker 1: he needed. Your father can't give you something that he
54:33
Speaker 1: never got. So many of our young brothers never properly
54:38
Speaker 1: matriculated in the manhood because they never receive manhood messaging.
54:44
Speaker 1: My father was in and out of jail my entire life.
54:48
Speaker 1: Throughout my adolescence. So I never got the messaging that
54:53
Speaker 1: I needed from my father. But here's the thing. My
54:55
Speaker 1: father never got the messaging that he needed either. So
54:59
Speaker 1: my father couldn't father me because he himself was unfathered.
55:05
Speaker 1: And in writing this book, I said to myself, you
55:09
Speaker 1: know what? And and this this came after me reconciling
55:13
Speaker 1: with my father after twenty years of the two of
55:16
Speaker 1: us being estranged from each other. At twenty six years old,
55:20
Speaker 1: I threatened my father. I told him, if I ever
55:22
Speaker 1: saw him again, one of us wasn't what wasn't gonna
55:26
Speaker 1: be here and it wasn't gonna be me. And uh
55:31
Speaker 1: so I can't say exactly what I said because I
55:34
Speaker 1: don't speak that way anymore. But that's one of the Lucas.
55:38
Speaker 1: Lucas Lucas without a doubt, right. So in boy, you
55:43
Speaker 1: breaking it down, Sean, Now I get it back. You
55:45
Speaker 1: really read this book? Oh my gosh, we're gonna get
55:51
Speaker 1: to the Book of Lucas in the minute. But boy,
55:53
Speaker 1: I can't even believe you breaking me up. Okay, So literally,
55:58
Speaker 1: I wrote this book because is what I wanted to do.
56:01
Speaker 1: Was I wanted to um, I wanted to break down
56:06
Speaker 1: UM for my father. I knew that my father could
56:11
Speaker 1: have been a great man had he had great instruction, right,
56:16
Speaker 1: And so I said, if my father, if I need
56:20
Speaker 1: to write the playbook for manhood, that if my father
56:24
Speaker 1: had it would have been abled him to become a
56:27
Speaker 1: great man. And thankfully, as an eleven year old son,
56:31
Speaker 1: thankfully I'm in his life. But what if God calls
56:34
Speaker 1: me home sooner than I anticipated. I need to have
56:37
Speaker 1: a playbook for manhood that my son can imediately go
56:41
Speaker 1: to and say, Okay, here's here's what it is. Right.
56:45
Speaker 1: So this was the purpose behind me writing male versus
56:50
Speaker 1: man beautiful, And I want to make note, like I said,
56:53
Speaker 1: you know your faith has become strong in your life,
56:56
Speaker 1: has been a passage or write a passage for you
57:00
Speaker 1: and when you reunite with your father, he found Islam,
57:03
Speaker 1: and so so it's it's all about a journey. Like
57:07
Speaker 1: I said, his journey was doing incarceration okay before he
57:11
Speaker 1: found his faith, okay. And what you lost, you and
57:16
Speaker 1: him to have a clear understanding of how you can
57:19
Speaker 1: communicate with each other, your your your journey to your
57:22
Speaker 1: faith in the Book of Lucas okay. And it's been
57:26
Speaker 1: derived through allowing us to see you grow and play
57:30
Speaker 1: out television movies and films, you know, starting on the
57:34
Speaker 1: cause be share all that stuff. You know, a little
57:35
Speaker 1: cute little boy, you know what I'm saying. And so
57:39
Speaker 1: but along the way, they are tragic moments that pop up.
57:41
Speaker 1: I can I can tell you this man. When I
57:43
Speaker 1: was I wounderstand was about five years old. One of
57:46
Speaker 1: my good friends, you know, he was blowing up a
57:49
Speaker 1: balloon and it sucked it down and he held it
57:52
Speaker 1: and he choked and died. That had a I'm changing man.
57:56
Speaker 1: That had a lasting effector it's even now it's to me,
58:00
Speaker 1: I can understand why you need counseling. While they said
58:03
Speaker 1: get counsel thee counseling, get counseling, because nobody, nobody a
58:07
Speaker 1: black neigh'm black kids in with the hood, there was
58:09
Speaker 1: no counsel you know, well, just just feel sorry for him,
58:13
Speaker 1: hear you? You know, you know God called him home,
58:16
Speaker 1: you know it was his time. All those classic statements
58:19
Speaker 1: you get now, young man, that you and I both
58:22
Speaker 1: knew I was Steve harming. I was doing uh name,
58:26
Speaker 1: You're going three to beat and in Los Angeles most
58:30
Speaker 1: popular radio format in l a at the time, and uh,
58:34
Speaker 1: I'm on. Parker used to come up to the station,
58:37
Speaker 1: good looking young man. I love that dude. Man, slender
58:41
Speaker 1: in shape by six one. You know, we should laugh
58:43
Speaker 1: all the time whenever you come around that corner. He
58:45
Speaker 1: had energy, Man, he had energy. You just calmed out,
58:51
Speaker 1: what are you taking man? When you come up from
58:52
Speaker 1: the station. And and then in telling and introducing him
58:58
Speaker 1: into this book, I learned the side of you I
59:00
Speaker 1: didn't know about your motorcycle skills, you know, and the
59:04
Speaker 1: ability to be able to be special. That's why I
59:07
Speaker 1: always look at people like you, man, is that you know,
59:10
Speaker 1: God gives us all a lot of talents, you know,
59:13
Speaker 1: and that's just one of the talents that you became
59:15
Speaker 1: very good at. And in doing so, Mr Parker became
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Speaker 1: innamored and wanted to share in that experience. Tell us
59:22
Speaker 1: the rest of the story. You know, My a mind
59:27
Speaker 1: was my I love the fact that you recall him
59:32
Speaker 1: through his staple, which was his energy. Oh I love
59:36
Speaker 1: that kid. This dude, this brother was like like a
59:41
Speaker 1: pack of like a super Transformer pack of energy. And
59:47
Speaker 1: no matter when you saw him, he was the same way.
59:52
Speaker 1: His mom um said that when I finally met her.
59:56
Speaker 1: She said that we were uh, we were. We us
1:00:00
Speaker 1: have been separated at birth because our energy is always
1:00:04
Speaker 1: like the said, is one of the reasons why we
1:00:06
Speaker 1: we were attracted to one another as brothers, because our
1:00:10
Speaker 1: energies matched. It was just high off life. The dude
1:00:14
Speaker 1: didn't have you know, uh, he didn't have those kinds
1:00:17
Speaker 1: of advices and and all that stuff that would make him,
1:00:20
Speaker 1: you know, energetic. He was just energetic about life. And
1:00:25
Speaker 1: he became my best friend out here. And um, we
1:00:29
Speaker 1: did everything together with our families, together, our our our wives. Um,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: we're great together. Our you know. I was really tight
1:00:38
Speaker 1: with his kids and a couple of months before my
1:00:44
Speaker 1: wife gave birth to our first child, my daughter. Um,
1:00:51
Speaker 1: a man decided that I was always a a adde
1:00:55
Speaker 1: motorcyclist and my skill sets ran deep. You know. I
1:00:59
Speaker 1: was really on the freeway and and do stoppings, and um,
1:01:04
Speaker 1: you know, I rased motorcycles like motorcycles became a huge
1:01:08
Speaker 1: part of my life, and I was doing stuff that
1:01:12
Speaker 1: while I was on television shows and I would do
1:01:15
Speaker 1: all of these stunts on my motorcycle and people like
1:01:18
Speaker 1: I take my helmet off, I can get help people
1:01:20
Speaker 1: be like, that's doing from that show. So people were
1:01:23
Speaker 1: like blown away at that. He would come over to
1:01:26
Speaker 1: my house, see my motorcycles, see my wife's motorcycless, like, man,
1:01:30
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to ride. I said, well, Yo, if
1:01:33
Speaker 1: you're gonna ride, you're gonna have to go through motorcycle
1:01:36
Speaker 1: safety course. So I made sure he went through the
1:01:39
Speaker 1: motorcycle safety course. He did all of that. Everything was good.
1:01:43
Speaker 1: I made sure his equipment was good, all that. His
1:01:46
Speaker 1: first day of getting on the freeway, I started listening,
1:01:49
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come pick you up. I was living in
1:01:52
Speaker 1: Targana at the time. He lived in Palmdale, so it's
1:01:55
Speaker 1: a big trap. So I had to ride out there
1:01:57
Speaker 1: to his house and uh, and we got on the
1:01:59
Speaker 1: freeway and we started rolling and day was going great.
1:02:04
Speaker 1: And I talked about this in the book, and I'm
1:02:07
Speaker 1: not gonna go through the whole thing because it's a
1:02:08
Speaker 1: lengthy story. But rather than the reason why I picked
1:02:13
Speaker 1: him up was because I knew that it was my
1:02:15
Speaker 1: assignment to look after my friends. And what I talked
1:02:22
Speaker 1: about in the book is the pain that you go
1:02:25
Speaker 1: through as a man when you abandon your post and
1:02:32
Speaker 1: you don't walk out your assignment in life. And I
1:02:39
Speaker 1: happened to leave him while we were on the freeway
1:02:43
Speaker 1: in order to go through these turns that I used
1:02:45
Speaker 1: to love to go through. And I'm speeding through, and
1:02:52
Speaker 1: after I get to the end, my other partner and
1:02:56
Speaker 1: I were sitting there and we were waiting on them,
1:03:00
Speaker 1: and he never never came out of that turn, and
1:03:03
Speaker 1: in a car pulls up besides beside us and says, hey,
1:03:06
Speaker 1: you guys got a bike down back there. So we
1:03:09
Speaker 1: turned because we were on our way to pass a
1:03:11
Speaker 1: demas and make this uh you turn. Uh. Come up
1:03:16
Speaker 1: on the other side and I see my best friend
1:03:19
Speaker 1: laid out in the middle of the freeway. His motorcycle
1:03:23
Speaker 1: is up against the guard rail. Traffickers stop. We go
1:03:26
Speaker 1: up to the top, turn back around, come back over
1:03:29
Speaker 1: and get down to him. Take off my helmet. I'm like,
1:03:33
Speaker 1: my min I'm like, I said, you're good, all right.
1:03:38
Speaker 1: He's breathing, but he's not responding. His eyes are fluttering,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: his chest is pumping, you know, trying to take in
1:03:49
Speaker 1: you know, oxygen, and I just begin you know, talking
1:03:55
Speaker 1: to him, going man, hey, something just hit me. It's like, yo,
1:03:58
Speaker 1: you can't leave here. You got a wife and two kids,
1:04:02
Speaker 1: and you haven't even seen my daughter be born yet,
1:04:05
Speaker 1: and just kept talking to him, kept talking to him.
1:04:09
Speaker 1: Ambulance finally comes transported him to the hospital. Long story short,
1:04:16
Speaker 1: he had so much swelling on his brain that they
1:04:20
Speaker 1: said that if he made it, he would never be
1:04:22
Speaker 1: the same again, and that he would just live his life,
1:04:25
Speaker 1: you know, in a vegitative state. And family and his wife,
1:04:31
Speaker 1: along with his mother sister, they decided to give him
1:04:36
Speaker 1: a peaceful, you know, homegoing, and it devastated me. It
1:04:43
Speaker 1: devastated me because while I know I'm not as powerful
1:04:50
Speaker 1: as God, and I don't know God's plan, all I
1:04:54
Speaker 1: know is is that as a man, I did not
1:04:58
Speaker 1: stand my post on that right. I didn't stay there. Now,
1:05:02
Speaker 1: I don't know if the both of us, we still
1:05:06
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. We don't know whether our car
1:05:07
Speaker 1: hit him. We don't know whether he lost control going
1:05:11
Speaker 1: into the turn. We have no idea what happened. They
1:05:13
Speaker 1: still don't know, and I never got to start it
1:05:15
Speaker 1: after me, That's exactly what happened. All I know. He
1:05:18
Speaker 1: was on the freeway, you know, and probably driving at
1:05:22
Speaker 1: a high speed, and that was it, right, and when
1:05:25
Speaker 1: it came back to me Andre, I was like, huh,
1:05:29
Speaker 1: you're kidding me because that that and that My takeaway
1:05:32
Speaker 1: from that book is it's about it's there's no pointing fingers.
1:05:36
Speaker 1: It's about life. No, it's not. It's about life and
1:05:39
Speaker 1: and and really that's why I talked about this, because,
1:05:43
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't know if I stayed with him.
1:05:47
Speaker 1: I don't know if both of us you know, I
1:05:50
Speaker 1: might have meant that you know the same thing. I
1:05:51
Speaker 1: have no idea. All I know is this, as a man,
1:05:57
Speaker 1: I knew that my job was to look after my brother,
1:06:01
Speaker 1: and for a moment, in order for me to feed
1:06:06
Speaker 1: my flesh, I abandoned my post, and that lesson stayed
1:06:15
Speaker 1: with me. First of all, his last name was Parker.
1:06:19
Speaker 1: My my he was. My daughter was born two months
1:06:24
Speaker 1: after he passed. Her name is Parker. So every single
1:06:28
Speaker 1: day that I look at her, every single day that
1:06:30
Speaker 1: I call her name, I think about him, and I
1:06:34
Speaker 1: also think about how devastating it can be when a
1:06:39
Speaker 1: man abandoned his post. And so I've never since that day.
1:06:47
Speaker 1: And now my daughter comes September will be sixteen, So
1:06:51
Speaker 1: that was sixteen years ago. So every single day, when
1:06:55
Speaker 1: I walk as a man, I walk with great purpose,
1:06:59
Speaker 1: like just like this Father's Day. It's ironic. We were
1:07:02
Speaker 1: talking about the camp and talking about my commitments on
1:07:06
Speaker 1: Father's Day. This Father's Day in Los Angeles, I am
1:07:12
Speaker 1: organizing a rally. You can go to all of my
1:07:15
Speaker 1: social media's and you will see my call to action
1:07:19
Speaker 1: to all fathers, not Black fathers, not white fathers, all fathers,
1:07:25
Speaker 1: all fathers on Father's Day eleven am in front of
1:07:30
Speaker 1: City Hall in Los Angeles, because we recognize that while
1:07:35
Speaker 1: we want equality and justice for all of our families,
1:07:38
Speaker 1: we recognize that right now black people are being denied
1:07:43
Speaker 1: those rights. And as all fathers, when one child or
1:07:49
Speaker 1: one person of our families is denied equality and justice,
1:07:53
Speaker 1: thus too many. So the call to action is all
1:07:58
Speaker 1: fathers coming to stand up for equality and justice for
1:08:02
Speaker 1: black people. I'm talking to we are you know? You know,
1:08:07
Speaker 1: dre Um. I'm just telling brother, You're special man. You
1:08:13
Speaker 1: know and and and been. I've been a part of
1:08:17
Speaker 1: your life watching you on TV. You came into my
1:08:21
Speaker 1: life and forced your way into my life doing something
1:08:24
Speaker 1: I love doing. You're changing people's lives. Who you know, brother,
1:08:29
Speaker 1: we didn't you know you are. I came from, you know,
1:08:32
Speaker 1: like they say that the Golden Spot lifestyle. You know
1:08:34
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and so and so and the give
1:08:38
Speaker 1: and the give part and excuse me, Brooklyn dre let
1:08:41
Speaker 1: me go and just break it down to you, Brooklyn Drake.
1:08:45
Speaker 1: And uh, you know because that's because like you said,
1:08:48
Speaker 1: you know, we all have different slices of life that
1:08:51
Speaker 1: we live in, you know, like I said. But the
1:08:54
Speaker 1: term I want to take from the book that really
1:08:56
Speaker 1: hit home for me this this statement right here, the
1:08:59
Speaker 1: mark of the may and this is in the book
1:09:01
Speaker 1: male versus Man as m a l e versus man.
1:09:05
Speaker 1: The mark of a man is that he can lead
1:09:06
Speaker 1: with his physicality, but chooses to lead with his mentality. Mentality.
1:09:11
Speaker 1: Who sir, Yes, sir. When I wrote that, I can't
1:09:16
Speaker 1: tell you. I literally when I wrote that, it came
1:09:21
Speaker 1: out of the fact that most of us have been
1:09:25
Speaker 1: taught that manhood really is masculinity, or really is our sexuality. Right,
1:09:33
Speaker 1: So our masculinity will speak to the fact that you know, um,
1:09:38
Speaker 1: we could bench press two hundred pounds two pounds, right,
1:09:42
Speaker 1: Our sexuality is about how many women can we you know,
1:09:47
Speaker 1: conquered exactly right, because we're hunters. Right, even one of
1:09:53
Speaker 1: those things has anything to do with our manhood. Our
1:09:56
Speaker 1: manhood is directly tied to our dedication to being a
1:10:04
Speaker 1: servant leader, serving the women and children in our lives.
1:10:09
Speaker 1: I talked about it in the book, how every man
1:10:11
Speaker 1: has to be the walking tree of his house and
1:10:14
Speaker 1: community because what does the tree do? A tree provides cover,
1:10:18
Speaker 1: right from the harmful elements of the world. Right. A
1:10:22
Speaker 1: treat also gives us oxygen when we give it carbon
1:10:26
Speaker 1: uh uh thenox side right. So so the poison that
1:10:33
Speaker 1: we uh that we give the tree, the tree gives
1:10:37
Speaker 1: us oxygen. So that's what a man is supposed to do.
1:10:39
Speaker 1: A man is supposed to allow us to breathe better. Right.
1:10:43
Speaker 1: A tree also gives us fruit. What is that? That
1:10:45
Speaker 1: is food? So a treat feeds us. A tree gives
1:10:48
Speaker 1: us shelter. The tree allows us to breathe better. That's
1:10:51
Speaker 1: the job of every man for every woman and child
1:10:55
Speaker 1: in his life. So when I wrote that a man,
1:10:59
Speaker 1: uh you know, could lead with his physicality because of
1:11:04
Speaker 1: our physical strength, but chooses to lead with his mentality,
1:11:08
Speaker 1: that left me in tears. I'll never forget it. I
1:11:10
Speaker 1: was sitting downstairs in my house writing that section, and
1:11:13
Speaker 1: that brought tears to my eyes. You think I brought
1:11:16
Speaker 1: it up, you know, I know you. You know, I
1:11:17
Speaker 1: know you of all that I brought that up. I said,
1:11:21
Speaker 1: I got to say this on this show and let
1:11:23
Speaker 1: him know that this meant something to me too. This
1:11:27
Speaker 1: meant something to me too. This is another statement from
1:11:29
Speaker 1: the book that meant something to me. You believe that
1:11:31
Speaker 1: a man who is truly successful is one with healthy
1:11:35
Speaker 1: and whole relationships. H that I attribute that statement to
1:11:42
Speaker 1: the to the journey you take us on in this
1:11:44
Speaker 1: book because of the fact you define the difference between
1:11:48
Speaker 1: male versus man, You define the difference between your your
1:11:51
Speaker 1: relationships as you get finally met Sally and you have
1:11:54
Speaker 1: a whole family and the responsibilities of of what they
1:11:58
Speaker 1: are You talking about your son when he was when
1:12:00
Speaker 1: he had a racial slur hit him by his best
1:12:03
Speaker 1: friend Ben. The name was being in the book and
1:12:06
Speaker 1: how you you know it reminded me of a situation
1:12:08
Speaker 1: with my wife and my daughter when my daughter's being
1:12:11
Speaker 1: intimidated in her school. You know, my wife, she went
1:12:14
Speaker 1: up to the school with nothing happening fast enough for
1:12:17
Speaker 1: brother Rashwan okay. And so finally I had to go
1:12:20
Speaker 1: up there. You know, she thought I was gonna throw
1:12:22
Speaker 1: stuff against the wall and and go crazy. I did,
1:12:25
Speaker 1: just like you. I had a conversation with the teachers
1:12:29
Speaker 1: and educating them and let them know because see, it's
1:12:32
Speaker 1: all about the education and your demeanor place. I'd like
1:12:35
Speaker 1: that this book is an educational book about life, about
1:12:39
Speaker 1: men and defining these these fallacies that we have, these
1:12:43
Speaker 1: physicality by being macho, by gotta break through a door
1:12:47
Speaker 1: instead of open the door, gotta be gotta be a
1:12:50
Speaker 1: champion for the cause instead of a speaker for the moment.
1:12:53
Speaker 1: This is what this book is about. Everybody, mail versus man.
1:12:57
Speaker 1: This is a book man, I think it's to me,
1:12:59
Speaker 1: it's a define any moment and uh and and educating
1:13:03
Speaker 1: where we're at right now. When you look at these
1:13:05
Speaker 1: young boards out in the streets, man walking down with
1:13:06
Speaker 1: no shirts, angry man, they gotta read this book there
1:13:09
Speaker 1: because they do a lot of They're doing a lot
1:13:11
Speaker 1: of physical things when it should be mental. No question.
1:13:15
Speaker 1: And you know it's so interesting. When I spoke earlier,
1:13:18
Speaker 1: I said, I think I'm misspoken, said carbon monoxide, um,
1:13:22
Speaker 1: and meant to say carbon dioxide is what we breathe
1:13:25
Speaker 1: out when we breathe, and our our our trees produce
1:13:30
Speaker 1: oxygen for us, and that that's what men are supposed
1:13:34
Speaker 1: to do. We spoke earlier about the Book of Lucas, right, come, right,
1:13:41
Speaker 1: So in the bubble there there are a great many
1:13:44
Speaker 1: different books and so so in talking about this in
1:13:49
Speaker 1: male versus man, I said, you know what we we
1:13:53
Speaker 1: all know about the book the five love languages, And
1:13:58
Speaker 1: I said, you know they're actually is um, there are
1:14:03
Speaker 1: five pain languages. And that's how I came up with,
1:14:08
Speaker 1: quote unquote the Book of Lucas. Lucas is an acronym
1:14:11
Speaker 1: for l rusting you unforgivingness, see cursing, a anger s sarcasm, right,
1:14:23
Speaker 1: the five pain languages. Lusting is the passion of pain. Right,
1:14:29
Speaker 1: so all of these things about the pain languages, Lusting
1:14:33
Speaker 1: is the passion of pain. Right. So when we lust
1:14:35
Speaker 1: after somebody where we're really moving after them, there's a
1:14:40
Speaker 1: passion for them, but it's because of our pain. It
1:14:44
Speaker 1: really doesn't have anything to do with love, right. Unforgivingness
1:14:48
Speaker 1: is the memory of pain. If I remember something, then
1:14:52
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna forgive you because I remember the pain
1:14:55
Speaker 1: that it produced, So I can't forgive you. Right. See,
1:14:59
Speaker 1: it's cursing. That's the vocabulary of pain. Right, Whenever I speak.
1:15:05
Speaker 1: I used to always speak when I was in Brooklyn,
1:15:08
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, Curson was like the first language. That's
1:15:11
Speaker 1: English was the first language. Right. But I began to
1:15:16
Speaker 1: realize that met cursing at my wife is never something
1:15:20
Speaker 1: that I should do because that is going to cause
1:15:23
Speaker 1: her great pain. Me cursing that my children, I should
1:15:27
Speaker 1: never do that as a man. That's going to cause
1:15:28
Speaker 1: them great pain. I began to realize that every time
1:15:32
Speaker 1: I cursed at somebody, it only brings them pain. So
1:15:36
Speaker 1: that's when I realized that's the vocabulary pain. That's why
1:15:39
Speaker 1: I don't curse anymore. Right, Hey, it's for is anger.
1:15:43
Speaker 1: That's the emotion of pain. Whenever we feel pain and
1:15:48
Speaker 1: we get like hurt from that profound pain, anger shows
1:15:52
Speaker 1: up because that's the emotion that gets produced by it. Right.
1:15:57
Speaker 1: And then finally s is sarcasm. That's the humor of pain. Right.
1:16:02
Speaker 1: So when somebody says something sarcastic to you, they're being funny,
1:16:07
Speaker 1: but they say that sarcastic or make that sarcastic statement.
1:16:11
Speaker 1: Towards you because they are in pain, but they find
1:16:15
Speaker 1: a funny way of saying it or doing it right.
1:16:19
Speaker 1: So those are the five pain languages and lusting, unforgivingness, cursing, anger,
1:16:24
Speaker 1: and sarcasm and those things. When I began to examine
1:16:27
Speaker 1: all those things, man, they changed so much of my
1:16:33
Speaker 1: behavior because not very many people. People don't realize any
1:16:38
Speaker 1: of that, so they can't break that down for you, right.
1:16:41
Speaker 1: So when I got to that, man, I sat there
1:16:44
Speaker 1: and I said, oh my gosh, bro, you just gave
1:16:48
Speaker 1: people a language to be able to recognize what behaviors
1:16:53
Speaker 1: they are walking out that cause other people pain from
1:16:58
Speaker 1: their own pain. It's like that's thing. Hurt people hurt
1:17:01
Speaker 1: people when we hurt. These are the pain languages we
1:17:05
Speaker 1: used to hurt other people because we are hurt. I'm
1:17:10
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. I know I gotta wrap up here.
1:17:13
Speaker 1: I want to You have a You have a Male
1:17:15
Speaker 1: versus Man video series is features Will Smith, Kevin Hard,
1:17:18
Speaker 1: Trevor Jackson. Tell us about that every Friday at ten
1:17:21
Speaker 1: am uh uh a Pacific coast time, one am East
1:17:26
Speaker 1: Coast time. It's a new series, new setters of videos,
1:17:29
Speaker 1: Mail versus Man Talk to us about that. Yeah, I
1:17:34
Speaker 1: produced this digital series along with my producing partners of
1:17:40
Speaker 1: the Black Love Team. Oh yes, that's my crew. Yeah,
1:17:45
Speaker 1: those are my people, Cody Uh and Tommy Oliver. Um.
1:17:50
Speaker 1: Those are those are my people that are my producing
1:17:52
Speaker 1: partners on the digital series. And I came to them
1:17:57
Speaker 1: because I needed somebody to help me produced this this
1:18:01
Speaker 1: this series of talks with men about their matriculation into
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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a product of the problem because
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Speaker 1: Would you like to know the first place I took
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Speaker 1: what happened is in the gentrification mode, they wanted to
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Speaker 1: Numerology a strang How does one get involved in that?
1:30:03
Speaker 1: And then how does one become an expert? Well, one
1:30:06
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1:30:50
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Speaker 1: So let's say, if you've got a person that's born
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1:32:02
Speaker 1: over and above that it they go at your own pace,
1:32:05
Speaker 1: and it tells you a couple of things. One how
1:32:08
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Speaker 1: You know, Shakespeare says, what's in the name the responses everything,
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1:33:03
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1:33:10
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Speaker 1: thing is just fascinating. I couldn't believe this, and I
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1:33:20
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1:33:23
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1:33:26
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1:33:29
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1:33:32
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1:33:36
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1:33:38
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1:33:42
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1:33:57
Speaker 1: talk about favorable days in this whole says what does
1:34:00
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1:34:10
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Speaker 1: So let's stick to this example of February twenty seven.
1:34:17
Speaker 1: I know that person is a nine because there are
1:34:20
Speaker 1: Pisces that is ruled by Jupiter which lose the number
1:34:23
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1:34:26
Speaker 1: So this person going on February twenty seven would be
1:34:29
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1:34:35
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1:34:39
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1:34:42
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1:34:47
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1:34:50
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1:34:53
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1:34:56
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1:35:00
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1:35:04
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1:35:06
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Speaker 1: numbers in you because then the LinkedIn numbers and you
1:36:32
Speaker 1: you see that consistent called numbers in you. It's my bible,
1:36:35
Speaker 1: that's my very first book, and that book is still
1:36:38
Speaker 1: selling to this day. Sup. Four hundred page book I
1:36:40
Speaker 1: wrote on this subject. And when I published it, then
1:36:44
Speaker 1: I said, this book is going to sell a lifetime,
1:36:47
Speaker 1: still selling. So we'll be right back with my man
1:36:50
Speaker 1: lord straight hand. You know, um, really we need to
1:36:53
Speaker 1: it's it's it's of course that I still have to
1:36:56
Speaker 1: ask him. I'm a fan of what he does. I
1:36:58
Speaker 1: tried to do it in the high school. Did it
1:37:00
Speaker 1: for mine and uh one goal first I got to
1:37:05
Speaker 1: I got I got just the Spanish and this I
1:37:08
Speaker 1: gotta get back to the older astrology of numerology, which
1:37:12
Speaker 1: is older. Well, you know that question has been opposed
1:37:15
Speaker 1: to me and I say numerology. Of course people canna say, well,
1:37:18
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna say numeroology, Lord, because your numerologists.
1:37:21
Speaker 1: But let me explain the logic. For those that have
1:37:25
Speaker 1: had a astrology truck done. There is a process that processes.
1:37:29
Speaker 1: You must give them your birthday. Okay, how is that
1:37:33
Speaker 1: birthday given by numbers? The number of the month you
1:37:36
Speaker 1: were born, the number of the day you're born, and
1:37:38
Speaker 1: the number of the year you're born. Then you need
1:37:41
Speaker 1: to give the astrology the exact time you were born
1:37:44
Speaker 1: and where you were born, so they could look up
1:37:46
Speaker 1: the longitude and the latitude. All of that is in numbers.
1:37:50
Speaker 1: So you gotta get this. You gotta get to numbers
1:37:52
Speaker 1: first to get to that. So numbers is actually older.
1:37:55
Speaker 1: It's the little popular though, which is irony. Which is
1:37:58
Speaker 1: the irony? So I'm a sou when that you have
1:38:02
Speaker 1: uh clients, regular clients to communicate with you on a
1:38:04
Speaker 1: regular basis, How does a new client? How's that process?
1:38:08
Speaker 1: When you when you bring in a new client on board,
1:38:11
Speaker 1: and do they ask for anything in particular like financial
1:38:14
Speaker 1: advice or life advice, or relationship advice, or just how
1:38:19
Speaker 1: they have their children? You know you are on point.
1:38:23
Speaker 1: Primarily it's about relationships, yes, about careers and finance, about
1:38:29
Speaker 1: health and travel as a rule, normally these are the things.
1:38:34
Speaker 1: Then you have some people who are nervous as maybe apprehensive,
1:38:38
Speaker 1: who've never had a reading. Then you had those who
1:38:41
Speaker 1: who are God's fearing and feel that what this does
1:38:44
Speaker 1: goes against the lords of God, which it does not.
1:38:46
Speaker 1: Because religion is a belief. What I do in numerology
1:38:50
Speaker 1: and astrology is a science. There's a big, big difference
1:38:54
Speaker 1: of people who keep that in mind. They won't get
1:38:56
Speaker 1: all kind of uh been out of shape, but this
1:38:59
Speaker 1: is what they do. They do. They will get out,
1:39:02
Speaker 1: you know, they get rust me. I've been on I've
1:39:05
Speaker 1: been on the receiving end of it. But then when
1:39:07
Speaker 1: I asked some of the questions. And in the Old Testament,
1:39:10
Speaker 1: the fourth Book of Moses is called the Book of numbers.
1:39:13
Speaker 1: I didn't write that to make myself real good Sean
1:39:18
Speaker 1: goddess fokes Moses on the first day, the second day
1:39:20
Speaker 1: of the second month to name the armies by their
1:39:23
Speaker 1: name and their home. There is in fact, when I
1:39:26
Speaker 1: refer to the Bible as a numerology book, people really
1:39:30
Speaker 1: get upset in the religious community. But it's it's not
1:39:33
Speaker 1: think of it. If I give you a passage, it's
1:39:36
Speaker 1: going to have a chapter in the verse and you
1:39:40
Speaker 1: go to song twenty three, verse two. Okay, that's how
1:39:44
Speaker 1: you find what you want to get your message for
1:39:46
Speaker 1: the day or whatever. The case is, so the so
1:39:48
Speaker 1: numbers act as a guide and all we do mine
1:39:51
Speaker 1: just using more metaphysical approach, which is spiritually inclined to.
1:39:55
Speaker 1: Now it's it's it's a beautiful thing that we're talking
1:39:57
Speaker 1: about because it's really about information. And then you you
1:40:00
Speaker 1: can take how you use that information is your calling
1:40:03
Speaker 1: or your your desire, not your provider information based on
1:40:08
Speaker 1: the information that they give you. There's no smoking mirrors here.
1:40:12
Speaker 1: You're not trying to Like you said, if you don't
1:40:14
Speaker 1: stand in front of that bus, you can stand in
1:40:16
Speaker 1: front of that bus and they hit you. I told
1:40:17
Speaker 1: you not stand in front of that bus. Now you
1:40:19
Speaker 1: can listen to me and believe me or not. And
1:40:21
Speaker 1: the whole process of this is that when when you
1:40:24
Speaker 1: talk about relationship, when when the person comes to you
1:40:27
Speaker 1: in regard to a relationship, what what do you what? What? What?
1:40:30
Speaker 1: What do you provide to them to to be able
1:40:33
Speaker 1: to channel that that that goal that they're trying to
1:40:37
Speaker 1: achieve information they're trying to get out of you in
1:40:40
Speaker 1: regards to that relationship. Well, when I do, for example,
1:40:44
Speaker 1: when I when couples approached me about getting married, which
1:40:48
Speaker 1: is a great question. First of all, I try to
1:40:51
Speaker 1: see if they have a number in common. So let's say,
1:40:54
Speaker 1: let's go back to that first example where the person
1:40:57
Speaker 1: is born February the twenties seven, and then I might
1:41:00
Speaker 1: have another within a couple, might let's say be March
1:41:05
Speaker 1: the six. Well that first of all, the person that
1:41:09
Speaker 1: is March the six dead numbers of the six, three
1:41:11
Speaker 1: and nine, where the person born on February the seven
1:41:15
Speaker 1: numbers of the nine, three and six. Once I find
1:41:18
Speaker 1: numbers that are in common, those are the numbers I
1:41:20
Speaker 1: was here. So I would say, well, these are your
1:41:22
Speaker 1: best days that you share, the best dates that you share,
1:41:25
Speaker 1: and the best months. Now let's say there's a couple
1:41:28
Speaker 1: where the numbers don't match at all. I'm going to
1:41:31
Speaker 1: always always set the wedding date around the woman. You
1:41:36
Speaker 1: give her a house, she gives us back her home.
1:41:39
Speaker 1: You give her food. You know, she give us a meal.
1:41:42
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So so there's always you know,
1:41:46
Speaker 1: the woman is always the foundation to the family, to
1:41:50
Speaker 1: the home and everything. I and I found that out
1:41:53
Speaker 1: when my mother passed before my father. I used to
1:41:55
Speaker 1: think because he was the banded bigger areas, you know,
1:41:58
Speaker 1: balking orders that my mother would just say, okay, okay,
1:42:02
Speaker 1: that's how I figured out side. She got around them, right,
1:42:05
Speaker 1: But when she passed, that's when I found out who
1:42:07
Speaker 1: really win that? Right? Right? Right? Right? So I always
1:42:12
Speaker 1: said around the woman. But if I can find numbers
1:42:15
Speaker 1: that are in common between both of them, that's what
1:42:18
Speaker 1: I aim for, which is which is great. I'm one
1:42:22
Speaker 1: of them. I'm one of them, sneaky believers. You know
1:42:24
Speaker 1: what I'm saying when it comes to the astrology. And
1:42:25
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you how, you know, because because
1:42:27
Speaker 1: you know, I've been going to go through the news,
1:42:29
Speaker 1: probably my newspaper every day, and then I get over
1:42:31
Speaker 1: to the little every newspaper has an astrology section, daily
1:42:35
Speaker 1: astrology section, you know, going there had a couple of
1:42:38
Speaker 1: maybe two or three sentences of motivation of information that
1:42:41
Speaker 1: they're they're they're telling you about, and I go over there,
1:42:45
Speaker 1: go okay, all right, okay, cool now now now talk
1:42:51
Speaker 1: to me about that. Talk to me about the sneaky
1:42:55
Speaker 1: I'm the sneaky guy. Okay, I believe, but don't want
1:42:58
Speaker 1: to tell everybody I believe in. Do you have the
1:43:00
Speaker 1: people who really believe? Those are two different people? Correct? Yes,
1:43:03
Speaker 1: that's true. Yes, you've got, you got those undercovered believers. Okay,
1:43:07
Speaker 1: then you've got we're trying mcdonals. We're trying McDonald under cover, undercover,
1:43:12
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1:43:15
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1:43:18
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about that, there was a
1:43:19
Speaker 1: time in hallm when people into astrology actually had to
1:43:23
Speaker 1: walk around in their astrology books and brown paper wraps,
1:43:27
Speaker 1: you know when they have paper to wrap your book
1:43:29
Speaker 1: bags and wrap books. Yeah, well you couldn't walk around
1:43:33
Speaker 1: with the obvious astrology, but if you put it in
1:43:36
Speaker 1: a wrap of book raps, so people wouldn't know until
1:43:39
Speaker 1: they had some subject, you know. But this is but
1:43:43
Speaker 1: this is a very long and very trying to do
1:43:48
Speaker 1: art that's tens of thousands of years old and a
1:43:52
Speaker 1: guide people in a way that is absolutely absolutely amazing, Sean.
1:43:57
Speaker 1: So to say, it's absolutely amazing because because now now
1:44:02
Speaker 1: now use Joe, tell me I'm the undercover guy, that
1:44:05
Speaker 1: the one, the one in man. Then you have the
1:44:07
Speaker 1: people who are are dedicating to belief, like you said,
1:44:09
Speaker 1: people having to walk around with Brian bags at one
1:44:12
Speaker 1: time not publicly saying that because because people can be
1:44:16
Speaker 1: perceived as like, you know, do you really believe that?
1:44:19
Speaker 1: Don you really believe that's word following, how do you
1:44:22
Speaker 1: overcome the skepticism? Well, you know, the proof is in
1:44:26
Speaker 1: the pudding. And I've been doing this for thirty plus years.
1:44:29
Speaker 1: You have kinds of praises and occulations and confirmations of
1:44:33
Speaker 1: what I do. And because it is a science. But
1:44:36
Speaker 1: notice is what they always say, do you really believe
1:44:39
Speaker 1: in it? It's not a belief system. Religion is a belief.
1:44:42
Speaker 1: That's why man has always killed each other. Um. But
1:44:45
Speaker 1: for those this is why with the acception of the
1:44:48
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, every paper
1:44:51
Speaker 1: pactically cares. The hardscope. But the people that want to
1:44:55
Speaker 1: stay under the radar, they'll learn not what's up about them.
1:44:57
Speaker 1: For those that are not afraid, For those to the
1:45:00
Speaker 1: more openly receptive, which is now it's really open now.
1:45:03
Speaker 1: People didn't go to professionals like myself. For other people,
1:45:07
Speaker 1: um that that uh, that can do this on a
1:45:12
Speaker 1: more professional basis and guidance. When you read something in
1:45:15
Speaker 1: the paper that's like a broadbrush stroke, okay, but then
1:45:19
Speaker 1: you might have a thousand pisces but they're not all
1:45:21
Speaker 1: born on the same year, at the same time, the
1:45:24
Speaker 1: same location. And uh, they're not all born on the
1:45:27
Speaker 1: same day. So by going to professor, you get more
1:45:31
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1:45:35
Speaker 1: moment that yes, I'm not looking at this, I'm not
1:45:39
Speaker 1: looking at the generic newspaper generic thought. I have them,
1:45:43
Speaker 1: I have my reading done for me specifically, and then
1:45:47
Speaker 1: I have you recorded. I have you recorded too so
1:45:50
Speaker 1: you can review it. So it makes a big difference
1:45:54
Speaker 1: in the response I get. Uh, some woman told me
1:45:57
Speaker 1: I said you would get married. She since you got married.
1:45:59
Speaker 1: I said I did. She said, yeah, you take it.
1:46:01
Speaker 1: You're not okay, keep fine. But it's but these are
1:46:04
Speaker 1: the kinds of things all the I mean from reading
1:46:06
Speaker 1: people like Denzel Washington. Example, Denzel, when I met him,
1:46:11
Speaker 1: he called me behind stage after he didn't play here
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Speaker 1: in New York and he explained, they do was born
1:46:16
Speaker 1: on the twenty eight, his wife was born on the
1:46:19
Speaker 1: twenty eight. They married on the twenty eight. Their son
1:46:22
Speaker 1: they played in the recent movie about implicating the Kuklos clan.
1:46:28
Speaker 1: When yeah, so, so what I'm saying, and it's interesting
1:46:32
Speaker 1: when Denzel Washington received his first oscar. The presenter was
1:46:38
Speaker 1: um oh boy. She she played in Pretty Woman. I
1:46:43
Speaker 1: forgot her name. Julie Robbins right well, Julie Robinson presented
1:46:48
Speaker 1: what was Born on the twenties orself? Which I thought
1:46:51
Speaker 1: it was interesting. So numbers followed people, but we're not
1:46:55
Speaker 1: conscious of it. And and once you become conscious of it,
1:47:00
Speaker 1: you look at things different and you then you try
1:47:02
Speaker 1: to be really in a time that's appropriate to you
1:47:05
Speaker 1: to get the right results you want and to save
1:47:07
Speaker 1: you a lot of wear and tear, frustration and get
1:47:10
Speaker 1: you quicker to year ago by knowing just your best
1:47:12
Speaker 1: days alone in your best dates. And for a person
1:47:15
Speaker 1: born on February the twenty seven, which is the example,
1:47:19
Speaker 1: most people have two or three months. Well, this particular
1:47:21
Speaker 1: individual had six months March and April of May, October,
1:47:26
Speaker 1: nov in December. So if you're asked them what was
1:47:29
Speaker 1: the month their mom was born on, they may come
1:47:31
Speaker 1: under one of those months, wouldn't surprise me today the
1:47:33
Speaker 1: month they got married, the wife that they married or
1:47:36
Speaker 1: the husband that they married, and the year that they
1:47:38
Speaker 1: may I mean, this is this is great stuff. I
1:47:41
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1:47:44
Speaker 1: it's important when you go to an expert that it
1:47:46
Speaker 1: is not just a job, but it's passion and emotion
1:47:49
Speaker 1: and the success stories and the thing about it when
1:47:52
Speaker 1: I bring you on the show and your your track
1:47:54
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1:47:57
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1:48:01
Speaker 1: your credibility, will say, hey, this is something that uh
1:48:04
Speaker 1: that that can help you stabilize your life emotionally. And
1:48:08
Speaker 1: one of the things in the areas that you do
1:48:10
Speaker 1: help people are is in the area of health. Talk
1:48:12
Speaker 1: about that. We talked about career, and I get everybody
1:48:14
Speaker 1: gets the financial side. That's pretty pretty much not understood that.
1:48:17
Speaker 1: But after we talked about the relationships. But I also
1:48:19
Speaker 1: want to talk about the health side of the importance
1:48:22
Speaker 1: of what you do. Talk about that. Well. It's interesting
1:48:25
Speaker 1: because in my book I have a section or numerology
1:48:27
Speaker 1: and healthy Each number rules are part of the body.
1:48:30
Speaker 1: And now I'll just be breathing. If a person is
1:48:32
Speaker 1: a number one or LEO, that means that lose the eyes,
1:48:36
Speaker 1: high left pressure, heart complication is the lower back. Let's
1:48:40
Speaker 1: say a person is going under the number two or
1:48:42
Speaker 1: the sign. It can say lose the stomach, can digest,
1:48:44
Speaker 1: attract uh, diabetes, hemorrhoids, to mesas, and things of that nature.
1:48:49
Speaker 1: Number three people it lose anemia or low blood prices,
1:48:52
Speaker 1: sensitivities with the skin, panic attacks, and anxiety attacks because
1:48:56
Speaker 1: in concerns with the hipptize and feet each number four
1:49:00
Speaker 1: lose the mindset, so for has always got to be
1:49:02
Speaker 1: careful what they're around, what they watch on TV, because
1:49:05
Speaker 1: they go through them what they call moves and whatnot.
1:49:08
Speaker 1: Five people there. This is the hands, the arms of
1:49:10
Speaker 1: the shoulders. With sixes sinuses, alergies, harsh palpitations, irregular blood circulations.
1:49:16
Speaker 1: With seven is simply worried and anxiety more than anything else,
1:49:20
Speaker 1: along with night sweats. Number eight headaches, knees, teeth, bones,
1:49:24
Speaker 1: to the men more on the right side, the women
1:49:26
Speaker 1: more of the left side, and finally to the nine
1:49:28
Speaker 1: like a person going on the twenty seven. They tend
1:49:31
Speaker 1: to be more accident prone than illness prone because they're
1:49:34
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1:49:39
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1:49:44
Speaker 1: as we close, tell us again how we can reach
1:49:46
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1:49:48
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1:49:51
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1:49:57
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1:49:59
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1:50:05
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1:50:07
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1:50:10
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1:50:12
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Speaker 1: Thank you a lot of talking about. Got to start
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1:55:18
Speaker 1: Thank you. I actually have a story to tell you. Okay,
1:55:21
Speaker 1: great we met years ago. Oh my god, we met
1:55:27
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1:56:06
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1:56:10
Speaker 1: you know. And when I was hearing your name, I
1:56:12
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1:56:16
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1:56:17
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1:56:23
Speaker 1: to network who was in there because my per and
1:56:24
Speaker 1: marketing company that I was doing from ground up, I
1:56:27
Speaker 1: was on the floor. I was living at the office
1:56:29
Speaker 1: at hers And I said a reference not gonna believe this.
1:56:32
Speaker 1: In the one I got the information about the interview,
1:56:35
Speaker 1: I said, oh, he didn't realize we go back to
1:56:38
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Absolutely, absolutely, because we left in
1:56:42
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Because you know when I was
1:56:43
Speaker 1: when I was going through your bio and I said,
1:56:45
Speaker 1: it's no way to myself. I said, there's no way
1:56:48
Speaker 1: I have to have met her. I have to have
1:56:50
Speaker 1: met her. And I looked at the look at your
1:56:52
Speaker 1: picture when she looks so familiar. So for me, so
1:56:55
Speaker 1: for you to share that story with me, I really
1:56:58
Speaker 1: really makes me feel good because you're such a talented person.
1:57:01
Speaker 1: And and then reading your book and looking at the bio,
1:57:04
Speaker 1: your history, you know it's about hard work and overcoming
1:57:08
Speaker 1: the odds, but more importantly not giving up. And I'm
1:57:12
Speaker 1: highly recommending people to buy your book. I'm gonna putting
1:57:15
Speaker 1: in my newsletter. But let's let's you know, let's let's
1:57:17
Speaker 1: just talk about a little bit about the beginning. You know,
1:57:20
Speaker 1: you're from Detroit, then you went down to tallahask and
1:57:22
Speaker 1: the family HBC, you got your m B A why
1:57:26
Speaker 1: detrot the family in Detroit, Detroit family, that's that's very cold,
1:57:31
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1:57:38
Speaker 1: I intended family starting ninety nine. But in according to
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1:57:45
Speaker 1: College of the Year and Sami, you was in a
1:57:49
Speaker 1: moment where it was just so hot and business school
1:57:52
Speaker 1: that number one um. And I had offered from like
1:57:57
Speaker 1: Harvard to you of them too, I mean, for you
1:58:01
Speaker 1: name it, from ivy leagues to big state schools. And
1:58:05
Speaker 1: when I saw those things coming from Family, I said,
1:58:07
Speaker 1: I'm going there. Yes, all I had to do was
1:58:12
Speaker 1: a ten. For a few days after this visit, I
1:58:17
Speaker 1: love My decision has made one of the best decisions
1:58:20
Speaker 1: I've ever made. Well what why? Why is that with HBCUs.
1:58:23
Speaker 1: I really try to talk about the you know, the
1:58:26
Speaker 1: historical factor. I always tell people, if we didn't have HBCUs,
1:58:29
Speaker 1: it really wouldn't be black education because they wouldn't let
1:58:31
Speaker 1: us go to school in the South. I'm talking about
1:58:33
Speaker 1: they mean racist behavior and they were limited through quotas
1:58:37
Speaker 1: to us to inner schools in the North. I'm to
1:58:39
Speaker 1: my white school. So that's that's why HBCUs were creating
1:58:42
Speaker 1: and needed. So going into that, you had all these
1:58:46
Speaker 1: offers from basically white colleges and then there's beautiful black
1:58:48
Speaker 1: campus and tallahas in Florida. You just you just felt
1:58:52
Speaker 1: a kinship. You walking around seeing people look like you.
1:58:54
Speaker 1: What was it? Oh, it's very empowering. I grew up
1:58:58
Speaker 1: in Detroit. It was over eighty percient Black grows up there.
1:59:02
Speaker 1: So from there and fam you it was. It was
1:59:05
Speaker 1: the love, it was the accountability. To this day, my
1:59:09
Speaker 1: professors are on social media and still roots for me.
1:59:13
Speaker 1: To this day. I can see them chining on the
1:59:16
Speaker 1: comments on Facebook and that type of rich relationship you're
1:59:21
Speaker 1: just not gonna get as a black student want to
1:59:23
Speaker 1: a p W. I I highly adupt that your profectors
1:59:26
Speaker 1: still even remember you, let alone that they are invested
1:59:30
Speaker 1: in your future beyond those four years that you were there.
1:59:33
Speaker 1: You know they still look out for me. They still
1:59:36
Speaker 1: share resource. Mean, I was on the call the other
1:59:38
Speaker 1: day with the school. So it's truly family. It's truly safe.
1:59:44
Speaker 1: In addition to just attending an institution, which is a
1:59:48
Speaker 1: priceless experience, you were not as a black person going
1:59:52
Speaker 1: to have the kind of environment with that kind of
1:59:55
Speaker 1: accountability and love that's going to be poured into you.
1:59:58
Speaker 1: They want you to win because you look like that
2:00:01
Speaker 1: you are their child, you know. So it's I encourage
2:00:05
Speaker 1: HBCUs for African Americans all day long. It has been
2:00:09
Speaker 1: beneficial to my career, and that trajectory is my career.
2:00:13
Speaker 1: And then all of the resources that I've received. The
2:00:15
Speaker 1: family network is real. And you know, it's really important
2:00:20
Speaker 1: that people understand going somewhere where you're comfortable, going somewhere
2:00:24
Speaker 1: where you relationships in long term because that's one of
2:00:27
Speaker 1: the chapters in your book, the Relationship Principle. We're gonna
2:00:29
Speaker 1: get to that chapter six. I believe you know, because
2:00:32
Speaker 1: you know, you know, And just sitting here, uh, it
2:00:36
Speaker 1: allowed me time here and you speak, allowed me to
2:00:38
Speaker 1: remember our relationship back in two thousand and four. Kind
2:00:41
Speaker 1: remember and I'm gonna tell you something, you know, the
2:00:45
Speaker 1: one and and I'm not remembering everything, and I'm kind
2:00:47
Speaker 1: of I'm remembering everything a little bit here. I remember.
2:00:50
Speaker 1: The thing that stood out for me was that your
2:00:53
Speaker 1: energy and your smile and your professionalism. You know, I
2:00:57
Speaker 1: don't so I didn't know you as homeless on the
2:00:59
Speaker 1: two of the sixth floor. I didn't know that. Okay,
2:01:02
Speaker 1: So I wasn't doing that. I wasn't doing it in
2:01:03
Speaker 1: the favors because I thought I was. I was feeling
2:01:06
Speaker 1: sorry for you because I didn't know your situation. All
2:01:08
Speaker 1: I know is that your game was tight and so
2:01:12
Speaker 1: and I and I learned that about myself and I
2:01:15
Speaker 1: one of the things about money making conversations, I've discovered
2:01:17
Speaker 1: so many relationships that I had with people I didn't know,
2:01:21
Speaker 1: just because I just felt that, Hey, everybody deserves a shot.
2:01:24
Speaker 1: That's my personality. Everybody deserves a shot, especially people who
2:01:27
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2:01:30
Speaker 1: that was one thing with me. You had to be
2:01:32
Speaker 1: consistent rou sean. If I tell you know and you
2:01:34
Speaker 1: walk away, then you would you should not be in
2:01:36
Speaker 1: my presence. But I couldn't tell you know. I could
2:01:39
Speaker 1: not tell you no. It was like no, it's like
2:01:42
Speaker 1: you you were like, you know, like like that matrix.
2:01:44
Speaker 1: You dogs that no you dogs that let on it,
2:01:47
Speaker 1: let on it like she cool, she cool, she cool.
2:01:50
Speaker 1: And that's really a strong driving force to why you
2:01:53
Speaker 1: were successful today. Not that you're arrogant. You just understand
2:01:57
Speaker 1: your confident you you believe in the value is that
2:02:00
Speaker 1: God has put on this earth that you shouldn't be afraid.
2:02:03
Speaker 1: And I guess that that was me telling you we
2:02:06
Speaker 1: met because I was a big personality on two thousand
2:02:08
Speaker 1: and four, and I was a pretty big personality, and
2:02:11
Speaker 1: so because Steve just called me black cloud. So I
2:02:13
Speaker 1: would tell people know, and I would tell people to
2:02:15
Speaker 1: get out of my face really really quick. But you,
2:02:18
Speaker 1: my friend, that was was not happening. Talk about that
2:02:22
Speaker 1: ability to not be afraid before we get into the book.
2:02:27
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Um, well, the part of it, I
2:02:31
Speaker 1: would say, is in the book. It isn't even the intro.
2:02:34
Speaker 1: I definitely, absolutely yes, I believe in happing into that.
2:02:39
Speaker 1: I believe that when you move without limits that doors
2:02:43
Speaker 1: open up on your behalf. So I don't I don't
2:02:46
Speaker 1: approach things from this that space. I definitely approach things
2:02:49
Speaker 1: from a very fearless space. Um. And then then our
2:02:52
Speaker 1: confidence just goes forth. And I said, door, it's just
2:02:55
Speaker 1: open um. But I don't. I don't believe you should
2:02:58
Speaker 1: operate from that space. You need to operate from a
2:03:01
Speaker 1: level of surreness. You need to oppillate, operate from a
2:03:03
Speaker 1: level of confidence if you plan on for schelling anything
2:03:06
Speaker 1: in life. And I always overdre have those features. So
2:03:11
Speaker 1: it's just for us. You came into the world like that.
2:03:14
Speaker 1: If up for us to make sure we tap back
2:03:16
Speaker 1: into that because it was nothing. But the world started
2:03:19
Speaker 1: projecting its way onto you when people started saying different
2:03:22
Speaker 1: things to you. But who you are before you are
2:03:24
Speaker 1: confident who you are, before you do believe in yourself.
2:03:29
Speaker 1: Once you get all over the forest from the trees
2:03:31
Speaker 1: and all that back, you need to walk in there.
2:03:34
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful statement. You know, your book has seven
2:03:37
Speaker 1: chapters that believe principle, the thought principle, the speech principle,
2:03:41
Speaker 1: the principle of sewing, sewing and the action principle, the
2:03:46
Speaker 1: relationship principle, the principle of stewardship. I was a quoting
2:03:50
Speaker 1: the book that I pulled out that really uh stood
2:03:53
Speaker 1: out to me and said, if I believe something was
2:03:55
Speaker 1: going to happen for me, that's as you're talking. I
2:03:58
Speaker 1: refuse to entertain need thoughts that will counter what I believe.
2:04:04
Speaker 1: Oh that was you meeting me. That was what that
2:04:08
Speaker 1: when we met. You know before the book, you were
2:04:14
Speaker 1: on the twenty sixth floor. I didn't know that homeless,
2:04:18
Speaker 1: but you had a vision. But that didn't stop you.
2:04:20
Speaker 1: In other words, see a lot of people allow other
2:04:22
Speaker 1: things to stop them. Excuse I call them excuses because
2:04:25
Speaker 1: we don't all wake up the same every day. We
2:04:28
Speaker 1: don't wake up with good days. Something I wake up,
2:04:30
Speaker 1: I don't even want to get out of bed, but
2:04:31
Speaker 1: I still get out of bed. That doesn't mean I
2:04:33
Speaker 1: might have an unsuccessful day. And that's what that that
2:04:36
Speaker 1: you're saying right there. If I believe, if I'm want
2:04:38
Speaker 1: a mission to be successful, why should I suddenly stop
2:04:41
Speaker 1: myself from being successful? That's a that's an amazing thought.
2:04:46
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Parents? Where? Well, fam me?
2:04:51
Speaker 1: What did that? What did that thought process developed? Eighteen win? Okay,
2:04:58
Speaker 1: this I honestly can't probably tell all the time. I
2:05:00
Speaker 1: am a woman. I can't so I am a woman
2:05:04
Speaker 1: of strong faith. But I don't know when I started.
2:05:09
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think my parents probably allowed
2:05:13
Speaker 1: me to be ball and adventurous. Um I know I do.
2:05:21
Speaker 1: And this book I tell the sturdy about like how
2:05:22
Speaker 1: my mother took me onto the parking lot to get
2:05:25
Speaker 1: my first car and she was in a huge car
2:05:27
Speaker 1: section and I tell her that's not what I wanted,
2:05:31
Speaker 1: and what did you want? And I pointed open to
2:05:34
Speaker 1: the car that was on the show room floor and
2:05:37
Speaker 1: it was spent it. This was like Farler on it
2:05:42
Speaker 1: and the and the red color and the two doors
2:05:44
Speaker 1: and the ren and she was said, well, you could
2:05:47
Speaker 1: ask it, and I got excited and she paused, because
2:05:50
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay for it. And I was like, okay,
2:05:53
Speaker 1: I'm a ris to the occasion. Well, I was always
2:05:58
Speaker 1: taught that everything was possible and was thing my reach.
2:06:02
Speaker 1: Now that that was most Now how you got there,
2:06:06
Speaker 1: you just had to figure it out. But that I was,
2:06:09
Speaker 1: that's awesome because you know, because of the fact that
2:06:13
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying is that we have a lot
2:06:15
Speaker 1: of similar characters. I remember the first car I got
2:06:18
Speaker 1: was a used car. You first car in high school
2:06:21
Speaker 1: to beat up Pino for a Pinto. And I told myself,
2:06:25
Speaker 1: I said, I said, I would never drive a car
2:06:29
Speaker 1: with more than fifteen miles on it. Again, I said
2:06:33
Speaker 1: that to myself. I just knew and that was just
2:06:37
Speaker 1: my da. I always tell people certain ways, you said
2:06:39
Speaker 1: goals in life, you know, so I didn't. I wasn't
2:06:42
Speaker 1: telling anybody I was gonna buy a new car. But
2:06:44
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a car with fifteen miles
2:06:46
Speaker 1: or less on it, that's a new car. And so
2:06:49
Speaker 1: that's a standard that you set for yourself. You said,
2:06:52
Speaker 1: I don't want that, Why can't I get that? And
2:06:55
Speaker 1: how can I get that? And that's goal setting, but
2:06:58
Speaker 1: without but with not to instincts tied to it by
2:07:01
Speaker 1: having the standard you set but not going to a
2:07:04
Speaker 1: school and somebody telling you, here's your vision board. So
2:07:07
Speaker 1: you're you're walking talking vision vision board and small, that's
2:07:11
Speaker 1: what you are. Anybody tell you that, anybody tell you that. No,
2:07:17
Speaker 1: I think you will. You read this book. You read
2:07:20
Speaker 1: this book. You're walking talking vision board because I'm telling
2:07:24
Speaker 1: you something I kept. We're looking at it. I kept
2:07:25
Speaker 1: reading this book. We go we're gonna go to break
2:07:27
Speaker 1: because I want to talk about something because you you hit.
2:07:29
Speaker 1: I'm talking about if you if I if I found
2:07:32
Speaker 1: a young lady who was a younger version, but a
2:07:35
Speaker 1: female version of h M. I'm talking to her right now.
2:07:41
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing. Our belief influence is our
2:07:44
Speaker 1: belief influence our behavior. We are born bold. I always talking.
2:07:51
Speaker 1: I always tell people that. That's why I can't understand
2:07:53
Speaker 1: people who treat kids terrible, you know, abused kids, because
2:07:57
Speaker 1: kids just just they just want information. They just want
2:08:00
Speaker 1: to whatever you give them. You tell them to go left,
2:08:02
Speaker 1: they go left, You tell them go right, there, go right.
2:08:04
Speaker 1: So they just they just an energy just waiting. They
2:08:07
Speaker 1: just just absorb stuff. And that statement right there, we
2:08:11
Speaker 1: are born bold? But what what push us off to?
2:08:14
Speaker 1: What pushes us off the railroad track? Though? Mrmon? What
2:08:16
Speaker 1: what tell me? People? And thought? People and thought? You've
2:08:23
Speaker 1: allowed somebody to project their way of thankful onto you thought.
2:08:30
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I always tell people is that there's
2:08:34
Speaker 1: people around you, people who loved you or say they
2:08:37
Speaker 1: love you. Stop can stop your dream. It can be
2:08:39
Speaker 1: your boyfriend, your husband, your partner, your kids, your minister,
2:08:44
Speaker 1: your daddy, your mom. All these people can stop you
2:08:47
Speaker 1: with bad thoughts. And I was telling you she talks
2:08:49
Speaker 1: about this in the book. Don't talk to nobody don't
2:08:52
Speaker 1: know about that. They can't understand the capabilities of your dream.
2:08:55
Speaker 1: In other words, if you're trying to be a doctor,
2:08:57
Speaker 1: don't talk to a mechanic. You don't know nothing about that.
2:09:01
Speaker 1: You're trying to be a lawyer, don't talk to somebody
2:09:03
Speaker 1: over there. They don't know nothing. By lawyer, you can't
2:09:06
Speaker 1: do that. And so that's why I love this book
2:09:08
Speaker 1: because of the fact that she breaks it down in
2:09:11
Speaker 1: the natural world. When I see a natural world means
2:09:14
Speaker 1: that we all go through life wondering if we can
2:09:17
Speaker 1: be great, and your book tells us we can be great,
2:09:21
Speaker 1: but also points out with stopping up from being great. Now,
2:09:25
Speaker 1: how long did it take you to write this book?
2:09:26
Speaker 1: Because this book is on fire? It just came out
2:09:31
Speaker 1: the presses because you're talking about COVID nineteen in here.
2:09:33
Speaker 1: That's how that's our current, this book is. I couldn't
2:09:36
Speaker 1: believe I was talking. I've reading her book and she
2:09:38
Speaker 1: talked about COVID ninteen. Yeah, it has been updated. Um uh,
2:09:45
Speaker 1: it's say about eight months for that one. And honestly
2:09:49
Speaker 1: that's because I wasn't more of the final edit. I
2:09:52
Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't even know that my book would
2:09:55
Speaker 1: be releasing during a period where people would be having
2:09:59
Speaker 1: a global economic impacts on their finances. Come on, now,
2:10:03
Speaker 1: I had no clue, So of course, yeah, we went
2:10:05
Speaker 1: back and updated something. But yeah, I am I am
2:10:09
Speaker 1: playing on that at all. I'm gonna reading this book.
2:10:11
Speaker 1: She isn't morth of Jewish. I'm reading a book about
2:10:14
Speaker 1: COVID nteen. That's a that's a relevant this young lady is.
2:10:19
Speaker 1: That's how that's our own point she is with our
2:10:21
Speaker 1: conversations about getting this active. And we're not talking about
2:10:24
Speaker 1: a book that God released last year. We're talking about
2:10:27
Speaker 1: on the money right now now. Now. As a speaker,
2:10:32
Speaker 1: what motivates you? What is the goals when you go
2:10:35
Speaker 1: on stage or people ask you to speak. What's the
2:10:39
Speaker 1: purpose of you speaking to people? What? What? What are
2:10:42
Speaker 1: you trying to emote or trying to um get them
2:10:46
Speaker 1: to understand when you're speaking understood? First of all, I'm
2:10:50
Speaker 1: definitely a service that I take the stage. And two
2:10:53
Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is people are only
2:10:55
Speaker 1: going to remember the speech that applies to them. They
2:10:58
Speaker 1: could care less about what you saying about your life
2:11:01
Speaker 1: if it is not applicable to what they're going through,
2:11:02
Speaker 1: what they're dealing with, and to my message is always
2:11:07
Speaker 1: a fearlessness that's helping you remove those fears from your mind.
2:11:11
Speaker 1: Because the ways of mind is designed, it can shift
2:11:14
Speaker 1: towards the negative bias kind of quickly when you don't
2:11:17
Speaker 1: put in the work. Because we beings who were created
2:11:20
Speaker 1: to be mindful for survival reasons if danger was coming,
2:11:24
Speaker 1: but we're not in though any fields right now. We're
2:11:27
Speaker 1: not running some lions, we're not around animal over anything
2:11:31
Speaker 1: of that type of danger. So we just have to
2:11:33
Speaker 1: be very conscious that we're always operating from a place
2:11:37
Speaker 1: of a positive bias. So with that being said, you
2:11:41
Speaker 1: know to put in the work. So these negative things
2:11:45
Speaker 1: that people have put on you, you're gonna have to
2:11:46
Speaker 1: peel those things off. So that's my goal when I
2:11:50
Speaker 1: step onto a stage. Okay, and believe me, you're fearless. Now,
2:11:54
Speaker 1: ra Sean made a statement. That's what Sean, that's I'm
2:11:56
Speaker 1: talking about myself third person. Okay, I may just statement
2:11:59
Speaker 1: that if I had to see somebody that was a
2:12:02
Speaker 1: younger version of me, but it was a female, I'm
2:12:05
Speaker 1: talking to her right now, Arian Simone, Okay, why you
2:12:08
Speaker 1: said every shoan? Well, in her book she talks about this, uh,
2:12:13
Speaker 1: this conference that she was thrown and they hit her
2:12:15
Speaker 1: with a budget. There was like almost a half million dollars.
2:12:19
Speaker 1: Okay when the guy came in and this is what
2:12:21
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost. And she had never done this before.
2:12:25
Speaker 1: That reminded me when I threw my through my first
2:12:28
Speaker 1: neighborhood awards was HOODI Awards in l A. I had
2:12:31
Speaker 1: never done that before avering and I had a budget
2:12:36
Speaker 1: and I pulled it off. That's one story right there.
2:12:39
Speaker 1: Then she gets into the book and she talks about
2:12:41
Speaker 1: her favorite story to shopping is Ze Gallery. You want
2:12:47
Speaker 1: to know, Mrs Simone, one of my favorite stories to
2:12:51
Speaker 1: shopping is ze Gallery. Then she goes, Then she goes
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Speaker 1: right here? Where did she go to church in Los Angeles?
2:13:03
Speaker 1: At West Angeles Church of Garden Christ. What do you
2:13:08
Speaker 1: think Roshan went in Los Angeles Bishop Blake? Then Roshan
2:13:17
Speaker 1: McDonald doesn't accept no for an answer, because I would walk.
2:13:22
Speaker 1: In a book, she talks about walking and being being, being,
2:13:26
Speaker 1: being a confident I would walk in places. Of course,
2:13:28
Speaker 1: you know, always had a tailor suit over, so that
2:13:30
Speaker 1: helped a little bit. I would walk in venues wouldn't pay.
2:13:34
Speaker 1: I just look at people and you walk over by
2:13:36
Speaker 1: like I supposed to be. I'm supposed to be in
2:13:38
Speaker 1: the venue. She talks about this in the book, presenting
2:13:42
Speaker 1: yourself as a success, presenting yourself like you belong, and
2:13:46
Speaker 1: presenting yourself so people can treat you like a king
2:13:49
Speaker 1: or a queen that you are that is that is me,
2:13:55
Speaker 1: Mr Amone. If we have medsins two thousand four. So
2:14:07
Speaker 1: so when I see it, when I read about the
2:14:09
Speaker 1: Fearless fun, now I go, okay, it's everything is natural
2:14:16
Speaker 1: for me. Now everything makes sense to me. Why I'm
2:14:19
Speaker 1: interviewing you on this show today, because you have a
2:14:23
Speaker 1: quality within you that truly is fearless. I've never used
2:14:27
Speaker 1: the word fearless. I always tell people that, you know,
2:14:30
Speaker 1: I wake up. I wake up to get up. I
2:14:32
Speaker 1: go to sleep to get up. That's my goal. I
2:14:34
Speaker 1: wake up because when I wake up, I have a plan.
2:14:37
Speaker 1: Every time I wake up, I don't go to sleep.
2:14:39
Speaker 1: I was telling you the reason a lot of people
2:14:41
Speaker 1: find it difficult to get out of bed. They have
2:14:43
Speaker 1: no reason to get up. They never set a goal
2:14:45
Speaker 1: to get up. They ever said I'm gonna do this
2:14:47
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna get up. They just what I'm gonna do.
2:14:50
Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna do when I get up.
2:14:51
Speaker 1: I may not want to get up, but I know
2:14:53
Speaker 1: I have some stuff to do. That's why I get
2:14:56
Speaker 1: on up out that bed. And that's your personality. Upside
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Speaker 1: dial rayl flip over top everything three sixty. That's you.
2:15:07
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. And you have this
2:15:10
Speaker 1: beautiful book, you know, and you know when you know,
2:15:14
Speaker 1: when you when you go through the chapters, you know
2:15:15
Speaker 1: the bleief principle of mind is the terrible thing to waste.
2:15:19
Speaker 1: The thought principle, when you you know you believe in something,
2:15:21
Speaker 1: it will happen, which is which is That's how I think,
2:15:25
Speaker 1: and everybody should think. The speech principle, if you say it,
2:15:28
Speaker 1: you expect it to happen. Focus on that happening. All
2:15:31
Speaker 1: these different things that you talked about, you know, the
2:15:34
Speaker 1: the action principle. You know, it's just really really a
2:15:37
Speaker 1: special book. And you know when you when you did
2:15:41
Speaker 1: you sit down and discuss with individuals different chapters, or
2:15:45
Speaker 1: you just just just just put it all out there
2:15:47
Speaker 1: and sat down with an editor and said, this is
2:15:49
Speaker 1: my vision and I want to get it. Tell us
2:15:51
Speaker 1: of thoughts behind getting this book out to the press.
2:15:57
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Like I said, up, wait, did I
2:16:01
Speaker 1: start you down? No, because it looks different. It looks
2:16:06
Speaker 1: it took on a whole new meetings during thing happening
2:16:09
Speaker 1: in the world. Now, I first said I to do this.
2:16:13
Speaker 1: The book was gonna be released in at the Essence
2:16:15
Speaker 1: Festival and that bookstore, like everything just was was different.
2:16:20
Speaker 1: So I thought the process of I knew it was
2:16:23
Speaker 1: needed because the build the book is built upon one
2:16:25
Speaker 1: premise that people have more fear and going broke than
2:16:28
Speaker 1: they do faith and having a bundange. And the reality
2:16:31
Speaker 1: is that both of those things are unseen. Fear is
2:16:33
Speaker 1: unseen and faith is unseen. You choose to adopt which
2:16:36
Speaker 1: one you want to follow. So I knew I wanted
2:16:39
Speaker 1: the book out for that one reason. Just in itself.
2:16:43
Speaker 1: I had no idea that the world would turn into
2:16:46
Speaker 1: all of what everything happened and the course of so
2:16:51
Speaker 1: it took on a whole another meaning as far as
2:16:53
Speaker 1: just like you're saying, getting it out into the world,
2:16:55
Speaker 1: getting out to the press, of making sure um it
2:16:59
Speaker 1: lives in this space. It's more timely now than I
2:17:02
Speaker 1: had ever even imagined what I said out to do this,
2:17:04
Speaker 1: Oh most definitely. And I forgot this one other thing
2:17:07
Speaker 1: that made me in you very similar a quote that
2:17:10
Speaker 1: your mom told you. Mom said, value of giving from
2:17:14
Speaker 1: a pure place. She said that to you, and I
2:17:19
Speaker 1: have a good friend of mine, she Uh Whinny with
2:17:22
Speaker 1: cal Robinson, and she um very famous actress and she
2:17:29
Speaker 1: has his dance studio Actors Studio in Los Angeles and
2:17:35
Speaker 1: I would always I would care how hard I was
2:17:38
Speaker 1: because everybody, you know entertainment, you have peaks and valleys.
2:17:41
Speaker 1: You know, if I had a value, I still send
2:17:43
Speaker 1: my checks to her. I had to send my check
2:17:46
Speaker 1: to had because I made a commitment. That's that pure
2:17:48
Speaker 1: space when there's no agenda, when you when you're doing
2:17:51
Speaker 1: something and you don't realize you're changing people's lives, but
2:17:55
Speaker 1: somehow it's been put upon you, and that's a pure space.
2:17:58
Speaker 1: Your mom was talking about the pure waste in your heart,
2:18:01
Speaker 1: just like giving it but not expecting nothing anything back.
2:18:04
Speaker 1: That's a balance that your mom instilled in you. And
2:18:08
Speaker 1: like I said, reading your book, I don't I hope.
2:18:11
Speaker 1: I hope our mom really communicating the value of listening
2:18:15
Speaker 1: to a younger version of my reason. I'm excited because
2:18:19
Speaker 1: through my whole life, my only goal is to make
2:18:21
Speaker 1: sure people I meet people on and I'm saying I've
2:18:24
Speaker 1: impacted you. You was impacted about a lot more people
2:18:26
Speaker 1: than me. But to know I I met you, and
2:18:29
Speaker 1: to see the person you're becoming in the lives that
2:18:33
Speaker 1: you are affecting on a daily basis, Thank you, Mr Mom,
2:18:37
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. Yes, you
2:18:42
Speaker 1: did have a great impact on me because you believe
2:18:44
Speaker 1: in the girl who was trying to sneak into the writing.
2:18:51
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know you know the thing about this
2:18:53
Speaker 1: book and the Fearless for Let's talk about that a
2:18:55
Speaker 1: little bit because because we've got a few minutes, about
2:18:57
Speaker 1: three minutes left, I don't want to You know, this
2:18:59
Speaker 1: is great book. I definitely want to banner so I
2:19:01
Speaker 1: can put it in my news letter, put it on
2:19:03
Speaker 1: my personal social media, Like I'm about eight hundred thousand
2:19:06
Speaker 1: Facebook followers, so I definitely want to tell them about
2:19:08
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2:19:11
Speaker 1: making comics facing platform. But tell us about the Fearless
2:19:14
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2:19:18
Speaker 1: get the additional support and exposure. I'm just extremely grateful. Well,
2:19:23
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a PR and marketing specialists now, so
2:19:26
Speaker 1: you know you know what I'm saying. You're the queen
2:19:30
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2:19:35
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2:19:37
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2:19:40
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2:19:43
Speaker 1: Yeah this moment, but yes, the Fearless Fund was set
2:19:47
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Speaker 1: venture funds that black women were receiving. UM currently right now,
2:19:55
Speaker 1: black women received point zero zero zero six percent of
2:19:58
Speaker 1: venture funds and and hundreds of not millions, but billions
2:20:03
Speaker 1: get invested in that stage US and women eight percent
2:20:09
Speaker 1: currently right now adventure funds. So we set out to
2:20:12
Speaker 1: do this to solve a problem where the Searless funds
2:20:15
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2:20:17
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2:20:21
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2:20:26
Speaker 1: which means we can do any industry, but we're doing
2:20:28
Speaker 1: a focus on consumer products, UM tech, beauty. Certain industries
2:20:33
Speaker 1: were definitely homed in on and we understand that there
2:20:38
Speaker 1: was a lack of diverse investments because there was a
2:20:40
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2:20:44
Speaker 1: who were playing in the state didn't look like us.
2:20:46
Speaker 1: It's an eight percent white male industry as far as
2:20:48
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2:20:52
Speaker 1: we had to be on the other side of the table.
2:20:54
Speaker 1: It is myself, my close girlfriendcation night pillium, my close
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2:21:08
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2:21:10
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2:21:12
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2:21:15
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2:21:18
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2:21:21
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2:21:24
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2:21:27
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2:21:29
Speaker 1: we can make a financial impact in our community. Well,
2:21:32
Speaker 1: you are you making an impact of I'm telling I
2:21:36
Speaker 1: do a lot done over five interviews MS. Simone, and
2:21:39
Speaker 1: to meet a person like you, younger than me and
2:21:44
Speaker 1: and just just just crazy crazy good. You're just a
2:21:48
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2:21:52
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2:21:54
Speaker 1: good person because of the fact that I sit around
2:21:57
Speaker 1: and I wake up some days and not just stone.
2:22:01
Speaker 1: I planned stuff and and I don't know sometimes the
2:22:05
Speaker 1: decision that I'm making, I just know I gotta make
2:22:07
Speaker 1: that decision right now. And that's your thought process, and
2:22:10
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's so much. I want you to
2:22:13
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2:22:15
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2:22:19
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2:22:20
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2:22:22
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2:22:31
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2:22:33
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2:22:36
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2:22:38
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2:22:39
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2:22:41
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2:22:47
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