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Rushion Interviews Divorce Court's Judge Faith Jenkins talks sex, marriage, TV and more! Charlie Shabazz explains how and why to franchise! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she
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Speaker 1: can stop you from planning or living your dream. My
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Speaker 1: guest is Judge Faith Jenkins. She's an attorney arbitrary arbitrary
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Speaker 1: arbitrator Arthur and Emmy nominating host of Divorce Court. That's
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Speaker 1: where you know her. That Faith looks familiar, that sounds
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Speaker 1: famili That is her. Had the good fortune of meeting
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Speaker 1: her several years ago with my good friend, attorney civil
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Speaker 1: rights attorney Benjamin Crump introduced to me and relationship for
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Speaker 1: him there and I've been watching her from afar, just
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Speaker 1: admiring her rise in this industry. She's on the longest
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Speaker 1: running TV court show. She's also has a new crime series,
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Speaker 1: Kill a Relationship with Faith Chinkins. I'll tell you I
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Speaker 1: love those type of shows. It airs on Oxygen. The
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Speaker 1: series takes deep dive at the heart stopping evil stories
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Speaker 1: of love going horribly bad, faith to brides, unparalleled insight
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Speaker 1: into every case where a breakup means one thing, someone's
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Speaker 1: going to die. We're going to talk about her career
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Speaker 1: and both those shows, but let me tell you why
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Speaker 1: she really owned money making Conversation Masterclass. I also want
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Speaker 1: to talk about how relationship book sys don't settle, how
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Speaker 1: to stay smart in Matters of the Heart is an
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Speaker 1: awesome of love, wisdom and advice for women on how
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Speaker 1: Please work with the money Making Conversation masterclass. Judge Faith Jenkins,
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Speaker 1: How you doing, Judge? However, Sean, how are you? Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for welcoming. That was an amazing introduction.
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Speaker 1: And I know that you know we started this business,
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Speaker 1: you know, just trying to get in and then this
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Speaker 1: too is kind of interesting. You fight to get in,
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Speaker 1: then you have to fight to stay, and then you
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Speaker 1: want to you want to stay with options. I see
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Speaker 1: you starting to diversify. Like I said, we mentioned Oxygen
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Speaker 1: that showed that you're doing to kill a relationship with
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Speaker 1: branding your name, attaching your name and not just kill
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Speaker 1: a relationship, is selling your name as well. And this
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Speaker 1: new book. But let's go back to the first really
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Speaker 1: big opportunity that came your way was divorce court. How
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Speaker 1: did that come about? And how did that change your
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Speaker 1: inspective on what you wanted to do with your career
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Speaker 1: because this is entertainment. Well, what happened is I was
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Speaker 1: in New York working as a prosecutor for about eight years,
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Speaker 1: I'd been working in New York. I started a big
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Speaker 1: law firm. Then I moved to work for the government.
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Speaker 1: And after I left the Prosecutor's office, I got a
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Speaker 1: call to be on television just to talk about a
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Speaker 1: high profile case and give my legal opinion on the case.
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Speaker 1: And then the George Zimmerman trial happened, right and I
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Speaker 1: was called to opine on the George Zimmerman trial every
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Speaker 1: day of the case, and I would be on Fox News, MSNBC,
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Speaker 1: and CNN all in the same day. That's how I
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Speaker 1: met your friend been crumped during that time period. So
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Speaker 1: after that, someone when Hank Cohen tells this story, he's
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Speaker 1: the executive producer of my very first court show, he
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Speaker 1: said he saw me on one night with Al Sharpton
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Speaker 1: and the next night I was on with Bill O'Reilly say,
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Speaker 1: if she can handle those two audiences, she has brought
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Speaker 1: up hell, she can probably be on TV to do anything.
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Speaker 1: And so that's when I got my first step branching
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Speaker 1: out doing court television. Well, it's interesting you say that
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Speaker 1: because some people say I would never do this type
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Speaker 1: of show because because they're extremes there, you know, you
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Speaker 1: have that conservative Fox audience and now that I know
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Speaker 1: liberal or left side of the wing of the of
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Speaker 1: the MSNBC audience, why did you choose not to take
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Speaker 1: a side? Well, my job was to provide legal analysis
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Speaker 1: and give my objective opinion on the case, and so
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Speaker 1: that opinion didn't change with the differences in the audiences
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Speaker 1: political opinions. Right, So I wasn't a political commentator. And
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Speaker 1: even at some point they asked me to start giving
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Speaker 1: political commentary and I decided not to because my job
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Speaker 1: was to illegal analysts. That it's my dog. So I
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Speaker 1: decided to There was my decision. I knew what my
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Speaker 1: area of expertise was and that was to give legal commentary,
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Speaker 1: and so I just decided to stay true to what
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Speaker 1: I was really there to do and be an expert
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Speaker 1: on there was stay in your lane and grow your brand.
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Speaker 1: So was it in the mindset because like I said,
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Speaker 1: you're a prosecutor. So did television dropped into your lap?
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Speaker 1: Was that? Was that a lane that you was thinking about,
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Speaker 1: Judge faith that you are getting into television? And then
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Speaker 1: so now you was getting these opportunities to hone your
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Speaker 1: skills and these little sharp bursts, you know, because I
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Speaker 1: know that you talk and then you leave you How
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Speaker 1: do you think I did. Did you think it reacted?
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Speaker 1: They call you back and go, Okay, they calling me back.
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Speaker 1: That's a good thing. So when did you feel that
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Speaker 1: you have value on these in the television games. Well,
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Speaker 1: I knew it was important to add my perspective to
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Speaker 1: the cases that were being discussed as a black woman,
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Speaker 1: as a former prosecutor, and I know a lot of times,
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Speaker 1: you know, prosecutors get a a bad rap and people
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Speaker 1: talk about not wanting to be in the field because
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Speaker 1: they could never put people in jail. I've heard all
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Speaker 1: those things. But at the same time, you can't just
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Speaker 1: want to be an activist. If you really want to
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Speaker 1: see and change, you have to be a part of it,
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Speaker 1: and you have to have a seat at the table.
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor job is a very powerful job. A lot of
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Speaker 1: times what would happen with someone's case would literally depend
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Speaker 1: on who got their case. So if I got a
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Speaker 1: case and I would look at that case and it
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Speaker 1: was a young person from Harlem, which is where I
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Speaker 1: was living at the time, I would have a different
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Speaker 1: perspective than a lot of my colleagues across the hall
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Speaker 1: from me, who would have handled that case differently. So
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Speaker 1: it was very important for me to add my perspective
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Speaker 1: and bring my experience and my background to that job.
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Speaker 1: And I had one job only and that was to
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Speaker 1: do justice in my cases, to do but what I
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Speaker 1: believe was right. So when it came time to calling
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Speaker 1: on me for television, they would looking for people like
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Speaker 1: me who could add a different perspective and opinion when
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Speaker 1: giving analysis on these cases. Okay, all the world of
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Speaker 1: the world of the media we live in is social media, okay,
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Speaker 1: and social media tends to have an opinion and troll
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Speaker 1: you good or bad. So when you're bouncing because you
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Speaker 1: starting to develop your career, you know your social media
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Speaker 1: is starting to grow and people starting that comments. Did
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Speaker 1: you have any negative feedback on playing these different sides
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Speaker 1: on your on your social media feeds? And how did
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Speaker 1: you handle that? Yes? And but I developed a thick
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Speaker 1: skin pretty early on. Rashaan. I started doing pageants down
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Speaker 1: in the South and right, I was twenty two years old, right,
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Speaker 1: so I was used to a certain level of just
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Speaker 1: criticism in general. And I think that anytime you're in
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Speaker 1: the public eye, no matter what you're doing, you are
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Speaker 1: going to get some type of criticism, right, So when
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Speaker 1: you have to learn really early on, and as I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you are aware as well being in front of
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Speaker 1: the camera, you just have to develop thick skin. You
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Speaker 1: believe in what you're doing and you believe in the message.
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Speaker 1: You know, they say new levels, new devils to hire
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Speaker 1: your visibility. The more you're going to have people who
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Speaker 1: criticize you, the more you're gonna have people who like you.
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Speaker 1: But you can never allow your self esteem and how
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Speaker 1: you feel about yourself to be built up on people's
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Speaker 1: compliments or being torn down by their criticism. You have
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Speaker 1: to know who you are, especially when when you're in
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Speaker 1: the business that we're in, and be confident and that
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Speaker 1: you're presenting your best self to the world no matter
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Speaker 1: what people are saying. Absolutely, here's something interesting. You know
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Speaker 1: we're going to get to the divorce court. I want
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Speaker 1: to slide over to the forensic world or killer relationships,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you something. I get up in
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Speaker 1: four thirty. I go downstairs when I working out doing
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Speaker 1: my stretches, you know, forensic files. I am a junkie
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Speaker 1: for forensic file type shows, and so it comes on
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Speaker 1: to every half hour working out and lasting under the
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Speaker 1: last two minutes, they're gonna give a verdict and what
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Speaker 1: happened to that person? So what could I guess you're
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Speaker 1: talking to asking a question for a person like me,
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like addictive television. What attracted you to
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Speaker 1: the Project Killer? Relationships? And what do they say the
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Speaker 1: type of people who watch these type of shows true crime.
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Speaker 1: For some reason, I too, am really fascinated by the genre,
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Speaker 1: and I think there's something about the good versus evil, right,
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Speaker 1: And there's also something about getting to the bottom of
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Speaker 1: what happened and telling the story. And everyone wants to
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Speaker 1: know the answer to one question and that is why, right,
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Speaker 1: So we really get caught up in those stories because
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Speaker 1: they are real. I start, I branched out. I started
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Speaker 1: my own production company, and this is the first show
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Speaker 1: that I've created that I'm executive producing. I did it
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Speaker 1: because I believe that there should be a diversity of
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Speaker 1: voice in storytelling, and I wanted to add my name
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Speaker 1: and my perspective to this genre. So this is the
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Speaker 1: first show from my production company. I think that with
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Speaker 1: these types of shows, not only is it fascinating to
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Speaker 1: watch and learn, but it's also it could be a
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Speaker 1: learning tool because you're looking at all kinds of red flags.
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Speaker 1: For this show, in particular, I wanted to pull from
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Speaker 1: two worlds that I was in the world of relationships,
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Speaker 1: which I started very early on in my career appearing
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Speaker 1: in family court in New York, and the world of
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Speaker 1: the criminal investigations. I'm a trained investigator, that's what I
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Speaker 1: learned to do as a prosecutor, and have this show
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Speaker 1: because relationships is something that we can all relate to.
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Speaker 1: We all have them, whether it's a love relationship, of
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Speaker 1: family relationship, or friendship. And so I wanted to dig
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Speaker 1: into the world of relationships and how those relationships start out,
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Speaker 1: how they turn, and what makes someone commit such an
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Speaker 1: extreme act the end. But you now, it's because when
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Speaker 1: I know you're absolutely right, I always tell my my wife,
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Speaker 1: I go, you know, if something was to happened to you,
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Speaker 1: then they would just look at my record. There's the
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Speaker 1: way he watches forensic file. He this guy's a plotter.
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Speaker 1: I believe my DNA has set up that if something
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Speaker 1: bad happened to I'm going to jail. I'm because my
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Speaker 1: my track record is so bad. I'm looking at these
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Speaker 1: crazy cases all the time. So they would to say
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Speaker 1: he got the idea from watching First and Files and
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Speaker 1: some type of show like Killer Relationships with Faith Jenkins.
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Speaker 1: Do you like these type of shows? So you apply
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Speaker 1: to her murder, you apply to her demise, and I
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Speaker 1: do like them in the sense of, first of all,
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Speaker 1: they're startling to me, and it's like the word, how
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Speaker 1: could that happen? Why did they do that? And I
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Speaker 1: always get I always this was the thing that always
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Speaker 1: bothered me. You can get a di voice, you can
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Speaker 1: you can get at the point you can actually just
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Speaker 1: say hey, I'm out. It's that simple. But they go
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Speaker 1: to the darkest side of it all, and that's where
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Speaker 1: the greed part comes out of it. And that's what
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Speaker 1: the selling point of Killer Relationship is that they could
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Speaker 1: have just walked away, they could have went through the
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Speaker 1: proper channels and got a divorce. But they wanted it all.
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Speaker 1: They didn't want ninety seventy, definitely didn't want fifty fifty.
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Speaker 1: They wanted it all. That is that the single thing
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Speaker 1: that you saw as well, and these stories you're telling,
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Speaker 1: that is a big theme and the reason you'll find
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Speaker 1: that most of the individuals in these cases go to
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Speaker 1: the lens. They do. There's another theme throughout the season
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Speaker 1: you'll see, and that is everybody has a secret, right
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Speaker 1: the lens that these people are willing to go through
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Speaker 1: to keep their secrets from being revealed and exposed. Wow. Wow, Well,
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Speaker 1: let's let's slide over a little bit of relationships now
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Speaker 1: divorce core. Okay, sitting on that, but the people coming
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Speaker 1: in there with these with these emotional moments, and you
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Speaker 1: what now you learn the most about that experience and
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Speaker 1: what do you value? Its two questions, what do you
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Speaker 1: learn the most and what do you value the most
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Speaker 1: about that experience? Because to me, it leads into you
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Speaker 1: writing your book that we're about to talk in the
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Speaker 1: next subject matter here, Yes, and divorce Court has been
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Speaker 1: an amazing experience. I hosted the show for two seasons,
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Speaker 1: and this is actually my last year hosting it because
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Speaker 1: I am moving in a different direction with my production company.
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Speaker 1: But I learned a lot from hearing all of the
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Speaker 1: different issues and perspectives that people brought into the courtroom.
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Speaker 1: Number One, I learned that people don't most people don't
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Speaker 1: have relationship problems. They have problems they bring into their relationship. Right.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the issues I heard were issues that
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Speaker 1: were unresolved in people's lives and when you're bringing all
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Speaker 1: of that into a relationship. A healthy relationship is not
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Speaker 1: something you attracted, something you create, and you can't create
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Speaker 1: a healthy relationship if you have two unhealthy people coming together, right.
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Speaker 1: So that for me was just solidified what I knew
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Speaker 1: about that, and I did my absolute best to try
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Speaker 1: to enlighten a lot of the couples that came into
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Speaker 1: the courtroom so that when they left the courtroom they
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Speaker 1: feel like they're leaving with something greater than when they came,
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Speaker 1: even when they're going their separate ways. And I also
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Speaker 1: encouraged them to most of us have been through a
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Speaker 1: breakup at some point in our lives at one point
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Speaker 1: or another. I encouraged them to move forward in that
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Speaker 1: breakup with compassion and empathy and understanding. Of course, it's
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Speaker 1: a difficult time in your life, but it doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: you have to try to destroy the other person on
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Speaker 1: your way out the door. So that was a really
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Speaker 1: important principle for me to share as well. We'll be
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Speaker 1: right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.
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Speaker 1: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan
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Speaker 1: McDonald kill a relations ship with Faith Jenkins is on
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Speaker 1: the Oxygen Channel. Then we go to the book. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I pronoun as much as I could here, and I
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Speaker 1: highlighted as much as I could because I know I
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Speaker 1: don't have coffee. I wanted to see you a hard cover.
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Speaker 1: I'm good girl, I'm good. I got it on my app. Okay,
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Speaker 1: my net gallery app. I got it. I'm rocking and
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Speaker 1: rolling here. Now, sis don't sell. I have six sisters
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Speaker 1: and you know, married, divorce of some you know relationships.
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Speaker 1: I thought, why are you messing with this person you
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Speaker 1: as a as a female. And then then I'm also
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Speaker 1: looking at the Vorce Court. I'm putting that in my
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Speaker 1: mind when I'm reading it. I'm saying you, you're getting
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Speaker 1: to see this all the time. With Steve Harvey is
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Speaker 1: a Strawberry Letter. I felt the Vorce Court was your
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Speaker 1: Strawberry Letter, you know, for for this book. You know,
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Speaker 1: because you get to see it and you make these crafty,
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Speaker 1: smart decisions with these people and you get to see
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Speaker 1: how they interact. And when he did, Steve Harvey did
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Speaker 1: Strawberry letter for five days a week. He was responding
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Speaker 1: to emotional letters that allowed him to craft his mindset?
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Speaker 1: How did you craft your mindset? Was it divorce court?
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Speaker 1: Was it girlfriends? It was just past relationship? What started
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Speaker 1: this whole sisto selling? Need to put it on paper?
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Speaker 1: And the second part of that title really says at all,
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Speaker 1: how to stay smart in matters of the heart. That's
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Speaker 1: what I wanted to write about. It actually started prior
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Speaker 1: to me doing television, when I started working in family
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Speaker 1: court in New York. My first court appearances were in
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Speaker 1: family court in New York handling divorces, child custody, a child,
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Speaker 1: child support cases, and then from there I was also
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Speaker 1: living my old life as a single woman in New
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Speaker 1: York City, so I didn't get married until after I
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Speaker 1: turned forty years old. And what happened is I had
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Speaker 1: this career that everyone around me deemed was so successful,
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Speaker 1: but people started asking me why I wasn't married, why
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Speaker 1: I was still single when I was going to settle
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Speaker 1: down all of these questions, and I didn't think being
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Speaker 1: single was something I needed to explain or defend. That
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Speaker 1: was just my journey at the time. There are lessons
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Speaker 1: that I needed to learn. I needed to learn a
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Speaker 1: lot about relationships because I didn't have this huge standard
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Speaker 1: of what loved looked like in my life growing up,
17:24
Speaker 1: people talk about relationships being a science and dating as
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Speaker 1: an art. I knew none of that. And we prepare
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Speaker 1: just like you prepare for your show. I prepare when
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Speaker 1: I was in law school for exams. We prepare for
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Speaker 1: everything in life that we want to be successful for,
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Speaker 1: but a lot of us don't prepare for relationships. Why
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Speaker 1: is that? So I started learning to prepare myself for
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Speaker 1: the relationship that I wanted and what that looked like
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Speaker 1: and what that meant for me. And I pulled from
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Speaker 1: all of the experiences that I had with women in
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Speaker 1: family court, with women in divorce court, my own personal
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Speaker 1: life and dating experience, and I combined those to put
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Speaker 1: them in the book. Because I got married after our
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Speaker 1: turn forty, I had a lot of a dating experiences.
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Speaker 1: I had a lot of lessons that I learned the
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Speaker 1: hard way. But the moral of the story is I
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Speaker 1: met my husband. He's an amazing man. I'm happily married now.
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Speaker 1: If I would have waited to live my best life
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Speaker 1: after because I was waiting on a partner, I would
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Speaker 1: have spent half of my adult life just existing and
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Speaker 1: not really living right. Well, you know it's interesting because yeah,
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Speaker 1: got own production company. I see a TV show at
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Speaker 1: this book now, you know about especially at postparty because
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Speaker 1: see you talk about Ali mcbell, you know, like they
18:38
Speaker 1: made a big deal when she turns thirty. You know,
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Speaker 1: like what are you doing? They So so as soon
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Speaker 1: as you start talking about that, I went to that
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Speaker 1: section of the book, you know. And then because we
18:47
Speaker 1: are hit with dead lives. You know, you supposed to
18:49
Speaker 1: graduate from high school eighteen, at twenty two, ye supposed
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Speaker 1: to be out of college, you know, thirty, twenty nine, thirty,
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Speaker 1: where's your man? Where's your child? Where's your career? So
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Speaker 1: you're here with all these markers in life and basically
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Speaker 1: that's what you You're just taking those same markers and
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Speaker 1: applying it to emotion and not being swayed by what
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Speaker 1: other people say you should be doing I think you
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Speaker 1: should be doing. Is that correct? That is correct? These
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Speaker 1: are arbitrary timelines. Who decides we're not running a race
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Speaker 1: in life because we're not all running in the same direction,
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Speaker 1: So it can't be a race, right, there are almost
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Speaker 1: eight billion people on this planet. We can't all be
19:27
Speaker 1: doing the same things at the same time. And so
19:30
Speaker 1: a part of this book is encouraging people to embrace
19:33
Speaker 1: their own personal journey and ignore the noise, because guess what,
19:39
Speaker 1: the questions don't stop. As soon as you get married.
19:41
Speaker 1: They started asking you or when you're gonna have kids.
19:44
Speaker 1: You have one child, they started asking when you're going
19:46
Speaker 1: to have another one. So that's why you have to
19:48
Speaker 1: decide early on that you're going to live your best
19:51
Speaker 1: life right where you are and embrace your journey. And
19:54
Speaker 1: it is okay if your journey includes your personal choice
19:58
Speaker 1: not to marry, not to have children, and no one else.
20:02
Speaker 1: You can't let anybody else put that kind of pressure
20:05
Speaker 1: on you to make a decision because they believe in
20:08
Speaker 1: an arbitrary timeline that you don't right. It was, it was,
20:11
Speaker 1: it was, you know, always such chapters stick out for me.
20:14
Speaker 1: You know, I had to go to wait for sex.
20:16
Speaker 1: But let me explain that chapter right there, because everybody
20:20
Speaker 1: feels a pressure to to that's part of the relationship.
20:25
Speaker 1: Why was that an important part? You know, I know why,
20:28
Speaker 1: But I'd like for you to tell my listeners and
20:31
Speaker 1: my viewers. When you say wait for sex, I know
20:35
Speaker 1: it's referencing a woman, but also shouldn't that be said
20:37
Speaker 1: to a guy to stop putting that unnecessary pressure on
20:41
Speaker 1: a woman that's part of her role in the racial
20:43
Speaker 1: relationship that she has to have sex with him. Well,
20:47
Speaker 1: one thing about the book is, although it's called System Settle,
20:50
Speaker 1: I really wanted and talked about universal tru sys standards
20:54
Speaker 1: for love for anyone to read. And I've had several
20:57
Speaker 1: guys come to me and say they've enjoyed a many
21:00
Speaker 1: aspects of the book. That was an important chapter because
21:04
Speaker 1: it really is about what are your goals for love
21:07
Speaker 1: in your life? What is it that you really want
21:09
Speaker 1: to accomplish. I say in the very beginning of my book,
21:12
Speaker 1: this book is not for everyone. If you're looking to
21:16
Speaker 1: just have a sex buddy that you can hook up
21:19
Speaker 1: with from time to time and that's your goal, then
21:21
Speaker 1: this is really probably not the book for you. If
21:24
Speaker 1: you're trying to lock down Booker from the barbershop who
21:26
Speaker 1: you see you once a month, this is probably not
21:30
Speaker 1: the read for you. This book is really about people
21:33
Speaker 1: who are on this journey to attract that authentic long
21:38
Speaker 1: term love and partnership in marriage if that's what they want.
21:42
Speaker 1: So that part when I got to that part about
21:44
Speaker 1: waiting for intimacy in a relationship. It really is about
21:49
Speaker 1: establishing a foundation with someone and establishing boundaries in your
21:54
Speaker 1: relationship and getting to know a person and what they're
21:57
Speaker 1: really looking for. And establishing boundaries should not scare off
22:03
Speaker 1: a person who is ready, willing and able for authentic love.
22:09
Speaker 1: You know. You know, I want to tell you, first
22:11
Speaker 1: of all, enjoy the book. I enjoyed the book because
22:14
Speaker 1: of the fact that that's why I brought that thing
22:18
Speaker 1: about the guy. You know, like I said, because a
22:20
Speaker 1: lot of people read a book and they see you
22:21
Speaker 1: on it. Oh Jesus men bashing you know, not you know,
22:25
Speaker 1: and that's not at all. I want to make sure
22:27
Speaker 1: I said that. But that's what I was just saying,
22:28
Speaker 1: is that when you said wait for sex, and that
22:31
Speaker 1: should be both ways. Because men, I'm a man, we
22:34
Speaker 1: feel it can put that undue pressure that Okay, this
22:36
Speaker 1: is part of the you know, this part of the dinner,
22:39
Speaker 1: this part of the day, this part of the its
22:41
Speaker 1: a week. You know, we're supposed to be doing some
22:42
Speaker 1: other than just talking, and that's the pressure instead of
22:45
Speaker 1: getting to know the person. So it's also in your
22:48
Speaker 1: book you kind of like set aside defining what that
22:50
Speaker 1: relationship ship is so they can understand what you want
22:54
Speaker 1: out of it, because a lot of women don't set
22:56
Speaker 1: those I guess I wouldn't say rules, but this is
23:00
Speaker 1: what I want. Are you willing to be? Is am
23:03
Speaker 1: I correctings? Assuming that there is the correct approach correct.
23:07
Speaker 1: A big part of it is communicating yes, and knowing
23:11
Speaker 1: who you are and knowing where you are at this
23:14
Speaker 1: point in your life and being honest about that. If
23:18
Speaker 1: you're not looking, if someone tells you that they're just
23:21
Speaker 1: looking for a casual relationship, they're not looking for marriage,
23:25
Speaker 1: then we got to stop trying to convince people to
23:27
Speaker 1: change their mind. That's not our job. Accept people when
23:31
Speaker 1: they tell you what their goals are, when they tell
23:33
Speaker 1: you where they are right now and their life path.
23:36
Speaker 1: Accept it. So if that's not where you are, then
23:39
Speaker 1: it's time for you to pivot and go in another direction.
23:42
Speaker 1: So that's what I talk about in the book. When
23:44
Speaker 1: you talk about opening, honest communication, when someone tells you,
23:48
Speaker 1: believe them and then decide you can go in a
23:52
Speaker 1: different direction. If you're not on the same life path
23:55
Speaker 1: at that point, well you know I talk about it
23:57
Speaker 1: in my opening. I always talk about don't let you
23:59
Speaker 1: for in the co workers stop you from playing or
24:01
Speaker 1: living your dreams. That's what your book is about. You know,
24:04
Speaker 1: don't let people tell you that you're thirty, you're out
24:08
Speaker 1: of the game, you farty, you're out of the game,
24:10
Speaker 1: or that you know that you can't get to reclaimed.
24:13
Speaker 1: But I think the book that I got the most
24:15
Speaker 1: out of your book, you know, systn't sell How to
24:18
Speaker 1: Stay how to Stay Smart than the Matters of the Heart,
24:20
Speaker 1: was that the decisions you make should be the decisions
24:23
Speaker 1: that justify your path. Like you said, you got married
24:27
Speaker 1: in forty in the age of forty, and people will
24:29
Speaker 1: people end and that you're attractive, you're successful. Then they
24:33
Speaker 1: put that old thing, what's the problem, and then they
24:36
Speaker 1: start making like you the problem. And so so this
24:39
Speaker 1: book tells you stop all that madness. I am not
24:42
Speaker 1: the problem. I have control of my life and I
24:45
Speaker 1: will meet the right person that understands who I am
24:47
Speaker 1: as a person that really was was singing out and
24:51
Speaker 1: really was the champion. Message that I took away from
24:55
Speaker 1: chapter after chapters that you know, women, especially this day
24:59
Speaker 1: and age with social media, with you being able to
25:01
Speaker 1: crack the glass ceiling, being able to women are the fastest,
25:05
Speaker 1: especially Black women the fastest growing. And I'm gonna tell you,
25:08
Speaker 1: by the way, this book is not women written for
25:09
Speaker 1: Black women, white women. It's women for women. So this
25:12
Speaker 1: is not a racial book. This is a book that
25:14
Speaker 1: allows you to see that we all women have to
25:17
Speaker 1: deal with the same issues. We all need to be
25:19
Speaker 1: able to cultivate the same understanding that we can be successful.
25:23
Speaker 1: And reading this book system settle how to stay smart
25:25
Speaker 1: in the matters of the heart allows you that journey.
25:28
Speaker 1: That is what my takeaway was. And and I wanted
25:31
Speaker 1: to bring you on the show. I know we're we
25:32
Speaker 1: talked about the dvorce cord and you know, kill a relationship,
25:35
Speaker 1: but I just had that and I want to support
25:37
Speaker 1: this book. I want to put put the you know
25:39
Speaker 1: this part of the snippets of this interview on our
25:41
Speaker 1: social media just to drive traffic and let people know
25:44
Speaker 1: this is a book that that's a must read us.
25:48
Speaker 1: It's a quality read and you will take away nuggets
25:51
Speaker 1: that I think that will make you honestly feel not
25:54
Speaker 1: so disappointed in your life or a loan in your experiences,
25:59
Speaker 1: right right, And that's why I wrote it. Everything you
26:02
Speaker 1: said is why I wrote it because this is something
26:05
Speaker 1: that I would have wanted to read as a single person,
26:09
Speaker 1: as a person who wanted to learn more about relationships.
26:12
Speaker 1: Because we're always trying to educate ourselves. That's why we read,
26:16
Speaker 1: That's why we listen to the podcast, That's why we
26:17
Speaker 1: watch shows like yours, because we are trying to educate
26:20
Speaker 1: ourselves so that when we move forward, we can make
26:23
Speaker 1: better decisions. When you know better, you do better. And
26:27
Speaker 1: so that's why I wrote about this book. I want
26:30
Speaker 1: people to use it as a practical guide to attract
26:33
Speaker 1: the kind of relationship they really want and deserve in
26:35
Speaker 1: their life. She's an incredible legal mind, you know as
26:39
Speaker 1: the host of Divorce Courts. She has her own production company,
26:42
Speaker 1: so now she's producing television shows kill a relationship with
26:45
Speaker 1: Facing Genkins. Now she's an incredible author. Her book, Relationship Book, says,
26:50
Speaker 1: don't settle how to stay smart in the matters of
26:52
Speaker 1: the heart. Guys, pick it up. It's a must read
26:54
Speaker 1: for you too, because we all need to know how
26:56
Speaker 1: they're thinking. Oh they're thinking too okay, and if you
26:59
Speaker 1: understand how they think, you could probably get the right
27:01
Speaker 1: mate in your life. Faith Jenkins, thank you for coming
27:03
Speaker 1: excuse me, Judge Faith Jenkins, thanks for coming on my show. Okay,
27:06
Speaker 1: thank you, Rashwan. It's great to see you again. And
27:08
Speaker 1: I will support this. I'm telling you I will, all right.
27:11
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27:45
Speaker 1: importance of HBCUs and how I attending wanted to change
27:48
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what made us special. And you know,
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Speaker 1: when you grow up, you always hear that. You know,
28:02
Speaker 1: we have to work twice as hard. And I think
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Speaker 1: at an institution like FAMU and like other HBCUs. You know,
28:09
Speaker 1: you're surrounded by black excellence, so it doesn't become something
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Speaker 1: Conversations master Class. The franchise owner of a Nothing Bumpcake location,
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Speaker 1: CHARLISHI Bands. How do you know, charl I'm wonderful. How
28:43
Speaker 1: are you resigned? I'm happy to be here. Thank you
28:45
Speaker 1: for having me. Well, first of all, let's talk about
28:47
Speaker 1: the relationship. You know, in my business, somebody had delivery
28:53
Speaker 1: gifted me your prominent and I was happy. Body know
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Speaker 1: what they followed it. The didn't know I love sweets,
29:02
Speaker 1: and I immediately invited you because I asked you, I said,
29:04
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm gonna be honest with I stereotyped it.
29:07
Speaker 1: I thought she was just a delivery person. She said, No,
29:09
Speaker 1: I am the owner of this location. I went wow,
29:12
Speaker 1: and I said, can you come on my show? And
29:14
Speaker 1: we've been going back and forth because your schedule has
29:16
Speaker 1: been busy, and finally you're able to come my man
29:19
Speaker 1: show in Black History. Mon. Yes, yes, it's proud and
29:23
Speaker 1: talk about what you do it. Let's talk about before
29:26
Speaker 1: you made this decision, Charlie to be a franchise. So
29:29
Speaker 1: a little background. I'm a CPA. So I've been in
29:32
Speaker 1: accounting my whole life. Always knew I wanted to be
29:34
Speaker 1: an accountant from Philadelphia. I went to Temple University for
29:38
Speaker 1: my undergrad and accounting had a taxation class, and like,
29:43
Speaker 1: I want to do taxes, So I went and got
29:45
Speaker 1: my Masters in taxation and m That's what I did.
29:50
Speaker 1: So I was a tax accountant for most of my life,
29:53
Speaker 1: and I thought I would do that for the rest
29:55
Speaker 1: of my life. I'm gonna tell you something I am
29:57
Speaker 1: afraid to do. Tame. I would degree in mathematics. Cannot
30:00
Speaker 1: I'm even an easy for them. I get nervous that.
30:03
Speaker 1: I swear to you, I will go to H and
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Speaker 1: R whatever whatever about that don't tax I would take
30:09
Speaker 1: it easy for them. You look, you know, just just
30:11
Speaker 1: do this on you. So for you, I am like
30:16
Speaker 1: borrowing down to you to say, because you're confidently saying this, taxes,
30:19
Speaker 1: that's what I do. I do taxes, taxes. When you
30:21
Speaker 1: look at it, the guy and I'm the people tell me.
30:24
Speaker 1: I'm pretty smart and my degree, you know, I may
30:26
Speaker 1: be easily, but I swear to you I will not
30:29
Speaker 1: do my taxes. I've never ever done my taxes because
30:33
Speaker 1: they intimidate me, intimid the whole process of making a
30:35
Speaker 1: mistake intimidated. Yeah, and so, but so that means that
30:38
Speaker 1: you have to be a confident person then right, yeah,
30:41
Speaker 1: you know, Um, the law changes often, so you're always
30:45
Speaker 1: doing your continuing education credits and understanding the new laws
30:49
Speaker 1: and you know once you and don't get me wrong.
30:53
Speaker 1: I started out as a personal tax return preparer, and
30:56
Speaker 1: when I moved to Atlanta, I decided I want to
30:59
Speaker 1: be a business tax return prepare And I was totally
31:02
Speaker 1: intimidated by that. Okay, um, but I googled a CPA.
31:07
Speaker 1: I called her, I told her, listen, I want to
31:09
Speaker 1: work for free. I don't know business taxes. Can I
31:12
Speaker 1: please come to your office and you teach me. And
31:14
Speaker 1: I learned for free, just free, free, free, free, free, free.
31:18
Speaker 1: So she's said, uh, yeah, so because she asked for
31:23
Speaker 1: your resume and she saw, I'm gonna get this person
31:26
Speaker 1: this skills a temple graduate for free, knowing what your
31:29
Speaker 1: ultimate goal was exactly. So she um, it's a huge
31:34
Speaker 1: mentor for me. And so I learned business taxes and
31:37
Speaker 1: I had a corporate job. That's how I moved to
31:39
Speaker 1: Atlanta from Philly. UM large bank made me an offer
31:45
Speaker 1: that I couldn't refuse. So packed up, you know, a
31:48
Speaker 1: little jeep and I moved to Atlanta. UM found an
31:51
Speaker 1: apartment three days later. And Tucker, So, Tucker has been
31:56
Speaker 1: where I moved to first, at my first home, had
31:59
Speaker 1: my first job, job, and now the Bakries and Tucker.
32:01
Speaker 1: So I have a deep roots with Tucker Tucker Georgia
32:04
Speaker 1: because it syndicated national. Yes, yes, Georgia, Yes it is.
32:09
Speaker 1: Now let's let's talk about that. The differences, you know,
32:12
Speaker 1: because we always talking about fear on this show. You know,
32:15
Speaker 1: you you moved, you know, you are all female, you know,
32:18
Speaker 1: transitioning from another major market to another major market. But
32:22
Speaker 1: it is northeastern NATA South. Were there any what were
32:26
Speaker 1: the fears and making that move that decision to come
32:29
Speaker 1: to Atlanta because there were something there were a lot
32:31
Speaker 1: of fears, UM, but I was done with Philly. You know,
32:34
Speaker 1: I needed to change, So I kind of left it
32:38
Speaker 1: open to where the job opportunity took me. So DC, California,
32:42
Speaker 1: there were all options, sexes. So when the door opened
32:46
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, I was like, well, that is where I
32:48
Speaker 1: need to be. So I came confidently with fears of
32:52
Speaker 1: what if I don't do well at this job? If
32:55
Speaker 1: you know, what if? What if? What if? But I
32:57
Speaker 1: was like, I could always go back to Philly. You
32:59
Speaker 1: know all my fears in Philly. So do you know
33:02
Speaker 1: that's um always was a fallback plan if it had
33:06
Speaker 1: to be, but never looked back. I remember when I
33:09
Speaker 1: left IBM to pursue a stand up career, and I
33:12
Speaker 1: left on great terms. In fact, I tell people when
33:14
Speaker 1: The Showman, I was in tears when I made that
33:17
Speaker 1: decision a year in advance, because it was such an
33:19
Speaker 1: emotional decision that even though that knew working for IBM
33:23
Speaker 1: was not my future, it just didn't It didn't excite me.
33:26
Speaker 1: I felt I saw myself being blocked in creatively, and
33:29
Speaker 1: I went, Okay, this is not me and so because
33:32
Speaker 1: they had a successful model and they wanted people to
33:34
Speaker 1: grow in that model, and I wanted to do things
33:36
Speaker 1: outside of that model, and I went, nah, this is
33:38
Speaker 1: not me. But I know for a year, I kept
33:42
Speaker 1: thinking I can always go back, you know. And then
33:45
Speaker 1: finally I said stop, stop, stop that theory security blanket away,
33:50
Speaker 1: and stop that theory that you can go back. And
33:53
Speaker 1: because that's not why you left. You left to pursue
33:56
Speaker 1: your dreams. And that's right, that's key right there. You
33:59
Speaker 1: left Philadelphia to pursue your dreams, and in doing so,
34:04
Speaker 1: you had to take away that thought process. When did
34:06
Speaker 1: you take away that thought process that I had that
34:09
Speaker 1: you could always go back. Well, to make it even more,
34:12
Speaker 1: you know, I took a temp position at this bank.
34:16
Speaker 1: I didn't even have a signed contract. I took a
34:19
Speaker 1: temp job and took a leap on faith. So once
34:22
Speaker 1: I proved myself because I was confident, I was like,
34:24
Speaker 1: I can do the work right. I got a full
34:26
Speaker 1: time contract, a fount my apartment, started building my network
34:30
Speaker 1: or friends, and I was like, this is my home now,
34:34
Speaker 1: you know. And so so you did free work. We're
34:37
Speaker 1: gonna come back after this break because you got a
34:39
Speaker 1: lot of talking. We didn't even talk about an Her
34:42
Speaker 1: story is so interesting. But you're the perfect guest for
34:44
Speaker 1: the show because I want people to hear how it
34:47
Speaker 1: seems simple, it seems difficult, but fear drive so many
34:51
Speaker 1: people from reaching their their ultimate dream. And it was
34:54
Speaker 1: walking away. You know. I know that I've walked away
34:57
Speaker 1: from a lot of levels. It's a lot of people,
35:00
Speaker 1: and you always seen and people have called me a
35:02
Speaker 1: renaissance man, and sometimes I don't know what that means,
35:05
Speaker 1: but when they look at my resume, go, you did this,
35:07
Speaker 1: you do this, you did this, and you've been good
35:09
Speaker 1: at all these things. And I say, because everything I
35:12
Speaker 1: do I have done in my life I wanted to
35:14
Speaker 1: do it. How are you doing, Victoria? You're calling in
35:16
Speaker 1: a money making conversation master class and you're speaking to
35:19
Speaker 1: me and charlish your bass. What can I what are
35:21
Speaker 1: you talking about? What question can we ask me? Up?
35:23
Speaker 1: You with good evening? Good evening? How are you good? Good? Um? Okay?
35:29
Speaker 1: So UM, I was just listening and I just want
35:33
Speaker 1: to come in you um for taking the chance from
35:39
Speaker 1: moving from the Northeast and then I coming to Atlanta
35:42
Speaker 1: and all that. Um was there ever a time in
35:45
Speaker 1: your life where you didn't have it all together like
35:48
Speaker 1: me and like you, you couldn't hold on some money
35:52
Speaker 1: and it would just liquid it. And Victoria, I'm a CPA, right,
35:57
Speaker 1: I'm gonna count and I take care of everybody's money. However,
36:02
Speaker 1: Georgia Power had me no lights one day when I
36:05
Speaker 1: came home. Okay, so you know, Rashaw I was talking
36:11
Speaker 1: about saving and how you wish you could, you know,
36:14
Speaker 1: save and put things away. It was so easy for
36:16
Speaker 1: me to tell my clients, Yeah, you need to save,
36:18
Speaker 1: you need to put ten percent here, you need to
36:20
Speaker 1: do you know, but just keeping it real. It's hard
36:23
Speaker 1: to implement those things when you financially are and where
36:28
Speaker 1: you want to be. So absolutely the struggle was absolutely real,
36:32
Speaker 1: and I just think the key to it was just
36:36
Speaker 1: stand in my lane. You know a lot of my
36:38
Speaker 1: friends was like, Oh, we're going out, We're going out. Nope,
36:41
Speaker 1: not me, not tonight. You know, you know, you have
36:44
Speaker 1: to sacrifice a lot of things in order to get
36:48
Speaker 1: to where you need to be. So, like Rashawn said,
36:51
Speaker 1: if you don't have a plan, you can't you know.
36:54
Speaker 1: I had a spreadsheet that I opened up every morning
36:57
Speaker 1: when I was in Corporate America, and it was my debt.
37:00
Speaker 1: I had all my credit cards on the spreadsheet. I
37:03
Speaker 1: had a payment breakdown on how I was going to
37:05
Speaker 1: get each balance to zero, and I was committed to
37:08
Speaker 1: the two hundred dollars here to two fifty year, one
37:11
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty year, the saying, oh I got a
37:13
Speaker 1: zero balance on my Discover card, let me use that
37:17
Speaker 1: ten thousand from there, pay down my master card and
37:21
Speaker 1: then I got zero interests on the bald. You know,
37:24
Speaker 1: it was just maneuvering and figuring out, but having the
37:28
Speaker 1: plan and being committed to the plan, and that's how
37:31
Speaker 1: I was able to get myself out of that credit card.
37:34
Speaker 1: That that is inevitable when you don't come from money
37:38
Speaker 1: and you have an undergrad degree, you have a master's degree.
37:42
Speaker 1: You know, you move and you're by yourself. You don't
37:45
Speaker 1: really have that family support system. So no, it was
37:48
Speaker 1: absolutely real and I just had to sacrifice. Victoria did
37:55
Speaker 1: she happy out with that answer? We would think and
38:00
Speaker 1: I ask how how would I how would I be
38:02
Speaker 1: able to um being part of the franchise of are
38:08
Speaker 1: you just? Are you saying that nothing? Bunt Cakes is
38:11
Speaker 1: offering franchise opportunities absolutely. Um. You know, I speak to
38:17
Speaker 1: a lot of potential new franchisees and a lot of
38:20
Speaker 1: them are very intentional. I want to open a nothing Buntcakes.
38:23
Speaker 1: That was not my story of Victoria. Nothing bunt Cakes
38:27
Speaker 1: was not necessarily the plan. The plan was to open
38:31
Speaker 1: a bakery and Tucker in this new plaza that needed
38:34
Speaker 1: a bakery. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna bring
38:37
Speaker 1: a bakery to Tucker. We don't have a bakery. I
38:40
Speaker 1: had a client that had a different bakery franchise, so
38:44
Speaker 1: it was initially going to be something else. And when
38:47
Speaker 1: that didn't work, the landlord is looking at me. He's like, hey, Charlie,
38:50
Speaker 1: where's that bakery you're bringing. I'm scrambling, you know, like,
38:54
Speaker 1: oh jesus, I'm googling bakery franchise. You know, other things
38:59
Speaker 1: popped up in it morphed into nothing bunch cakes. So
39:02
Speaker 1: I would say the plan was to have a side business,
39:07
Speaker 1: which sometimes you have to have to open it up
39:09
Speaker 1: just a little bit and be receptive to the pivots
39:12
Speaker 1: and the changes and say, okay, I thought it was
39:15
Speaker 1: going to be this, but this is coming full circle
39:18
Speaker 1: for me, so let me embrace this and make this work.
39:23
Speaker 1: What's the definition of a franchise? I'm sorry, what's the
39:26
Speaker 1: definition of Victoria? That's question number three, Victoria, that's your
39:30
Speaker 1: last question. Victor R jacking my show. I was a
39:39
Speaker 1: great movie. The final netflix is um the Founder. I
39:42
Speaker 1: believe it's called with McDonald's. So it takes you through
39:46
Speaker 1: the whole franchise like life. So basically, Victoria. Two women
39:52
Speaker 1: came together twenty plus years ago. They had a great
39:56
Speaker 1: bunch cake and great frosting. Right, they said, listen, let's
39:59
Speaker 1: open up little bakery. Let's have a store. You have
40:03
Speaker 1: a business. It does well. You create the cookie cut
40:08
Speaker 1: type of thing. You know, you mastered the recipes, and
40:10
Speaker 1: it's like, can I give somebody this and can they
40:13
Speaker 1: do it without my expertise? And once you prove the concept,
40:18
Speaker 1: and if you watch Shark Tank a couple of episodes,
40:21
Speaker 1: you'll learn all this. Once you prove that the concept
40:24
Speaker 1: can be done by anyone anywhere, that's the birth of franchising. Right.
40:30
Speaker 1: So okay, so they said, look, we have the recipe,
40:34
Speaker 1: we have everything. We you know, worked out the kinks.
40:38
Speaker 1: We know how many people you should hire or we
40:40
Speaker 1: know you know what locations are do well with this,
40:43
Speaker 1: and they kind of mapped it out. They give you
40:45
Speaker 1: the blueprint, so you take the blueprint. Will you buy
40:48
Speaker 1: the blueprint? Let's be clear, you buy the blueprint? Victoria. Well,
40:54
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I've been baking since I
40:56
Speaker 1: was ten years old. I make really good I'm sorry,
41:01
Speaker 1: I'm serious, Victoria, I'm not. I'm not denying that victory.
41:06
Speaker 1: First of all, that's what the show was designed. Money
41:07
Speaker 1: making conversation Domestic class was to get the community excited
41:11
Speaker 1: about speaking to people like Charlie because they do exist,
41:14
Speaker 1: they do exist, and there they do have stories, and
41:18
Speaker 1: her story has gravitated you and hopefully motivates you to
41:21
Speaker 1: be a star, a star. And like she said, bakery,
41:24
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I'm an award winning baker
41:26
Speaker 1: and I have no desire to open the bakery. But
41:29
Speaker 1: you go to my timeline, you think I'm baked, and
41:31
Speaker 1: people two four hundred pounds due every time I look,
41:34
Speaker 1: you're eating something. And but but it's the passion. I
41:37
Speaker 1: hear the passion in your voice. I think what she's
41:39
Speaker 1: saying right now is that what is the plan? You know,
41:42
Speaker 1: what is the plan? And she speaks to people all
41:44
Speaker 1: the time, and so no, your question, I tease you
41:47
Speaker 1: about asking questions. Your curiosity is incredible, but now it
41:50
Speaker 1: has to be put on paper. And once you put
41:52
Speaker 1: it on paper, then the emotional pushback happens. You know,
41:56
Speaker 1: how do you make that dream happen? And that's really
41:59
Speaker 1: where it all starts, you know, whether you want to
42:02
Speaker 1: be a singer, whether you want to go to college,
42:04
Speaker 1: they're always dreams, but they are when you start creating
42:07
Speaker 1: application to that dream, that's when the struggle happens. And
42:11
Speaker 1: when that struggle happens, how do you react to it?
42:14
Speaker 1: What is your plan the pushback on that? Because we
42:17
Speaker 1: all have rainy days, we have rainy days in relationships,
42:19
Speaker 1: we have rainy dads on job. And that word rainy
42:21
Speaker 1: days doesn't necessarily mean rain, it's just meaning difficulties. It
42:25
Speaker 1: means when it's supposed to be sunshiny, it's gloomy, And well,
42:29
Speaker 1: how do you act doing gloom? And so this show
42:32
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass that you're listening to, and Charlie's
42:35
Speaker 1: doing an amazing you know me, I should be worried
42:37
Speaker 1: about her. You know, she's just brilliant sitting over here,
42:40
Speaker 1: just responding. So confidently and casually to these questions, and
42:44
Speaker 1: to have a guest like that, she's in studio. She
42:46
Speaker 1: came in here, she brought in some of her samples.
42:49
Speaker 1: It's to show confidence. And I just want to thank
42:51
Speaker 1: you for calling in and leave your number and your
42:54
Speaker 1: ZIP in your email address so we can reach out
42:56
Speaker 1: to you, Okay, Victoria, because we really want to continue
42:58
Speaker 1: that conversation. Plus I wanted to send you one of
43:01
Speaker 1: my money Making Conversations guys to the success. All right,
43:04
Speaker 1: thank you so much that I go to sleep with
43:07
Speaker 1: with this station on, like it's always on in my
43:10
Speaker 1: room and I really find refuge in it. So thank
43:12
Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you, Victoria. Make sure leading information
43:15
Speaker 1: from mess Charlie, get the little brain send up in here.
43:21
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master
43:24
Speaker 1: Class with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making
43:31
Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. We know the thing about
43:35
Speaker 1: it now. You you said you were going in there,
43:37
Speaker 1: but I know we're about to wrap this break up
43:39
Speaker 1: in a few minutes here, but I want to ask
43:41
Speaker 1: you a couple of questions for me. There. You were
43:42
Speaker 1: going in there to open a bakery at the side
43:46
Speaker 1: business as a side business, and you should say like that, okay, cool,
43:48
Speaker 1: Then let me get your history here now temple okay,
43:52
Speaker 1: accounting CPA. Where did the baking skills if there were none?
43:59
Speaker 1: They were none? M okay, Yeah. I used to just
44:02
Speaker 1: cut the cookie roll, you know, like spray the pan
44:05
Speaker 1: and like just put the little block of chocolate chip
44:08
Speaker 1: dough on it, stick it in the oven. Yeah. That
44:11
Speaker 1: was the extent of my baking skills. You know. Also,
44:17
Speaker 1: if someone set seven years ago you're going to own
44:20
Speaker 1: a bakery, I would say, wow, interesting because I don't bank,
44:24
Speaker 1: right right. So, so so you in Tucker, Georgia. You you,
44:29
Speaker 1: but you're in a visionary because you feel that you
44:30
Speaker 1: want to feel a need. Okay, So talker walkers through
44:34
Speaker 1: that step of going to the landlord, ye telling them
44:38
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, because you have to have a
44:39
Speaker 1: plan yea. And the first plan wasn't nothing, but can
44:43
Speaker 1: talk about that, okay. So the plaza was coming, great location,
44:46
Speaker 1: and Tucker, I need to be a part of it.
44:48
Speaker 1: I'm dripping by every day going to my corporate job.
44:51
Speaker 1: So one day I took a right and I found
44:55
Speaker 1: you know, sign rolled down the number, called them, Hey,
44:58
Speaker 1: I have an idea for a baker. Do you have
45:00
Speaker 1: any space available? Absolutely? How much space do you need?
45:03
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to him about, you know, kind of
45:05
Speaker 1: faking it too. I made it, and so I was
45:08
Speaker 1: kind of on the hook to bring a bakery. So
45:12
Speaker 1: that is when the will started spinning and I was like, oh,
45:15
Speaker 1: that fell through. What else can I do? Oh? I
45:17
Speaker 1: was committed to bring in the bakery. Okay, okay, you
45:21
Speaker 1: open in twenty seventeen. Yeah, when did you start this?
45:26
Speaker 1: Late fifteen? Late fifteen. We started communicating with the landlord.
45:32
Speaker 1: I'm at dinner one night and I had Nothing bunch
45:35
Speaker 1: Cakes in California at a cousin's birthday dinner, and it
45:39
Speaker 1: was the best cake I ever had, and I thought, Wow,
45:43
Speaker 1: I gotta come back to LA to get this cake.
45:45
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's moist the cream, cheese, you know.
45:52
Speaker 1: So I had it, tasted it. I just didn't know
45:54
Speaker 1: it was a franchise. I didn't know there was one
45:56
Speaker 1: here in Georgia. I didn't know any of that until
45:59
Speaker 1: someone mentioned it again and I said, oh, let me
46:02
Speaker 1: google google Nothing Bunchcake franchise. Boom came up. I'm almost
46:08
Speaker 1: signing a deal with another bakery franchise. Okay, okay, so
46:13
Speaker 1: the spirit said, don't just see what nothing bunch Cakes
46:17
Speaker 1: has to say. I emailed them, she replied back. I
46:20
Speaker 1: told her what was happening about me with this other franchise.
46:23
Speaker 1: She said, wait, don't you do it? Charlie, hear me out,
46:26
Speaker 1: and I heard her out and the rest is history.
46:30
Speaker 1: You know, I canceled the deal with the other bakery
46:32
Speaker 1: franchise and when with nothing Bunecake. So why as this
46:38
Speaker 1: off air where a black women the fastest growing segment
46:41
Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship, Why all black bomen from what I see
46:45
Speaker 1: and all the amazing Black women that I know, I
46:48
Speaker 1: think our mothers have a lot to do with that.
46:51
Speaker 1: I know my mother, Um, you know, she pushed her
46:54
Speaker 1: girls to be what she was not able to accomplish,
46:58
Speaker 1: you know. So it was just having that fierce you
47:03
Speaker 1: know that, you know, amazing black role model of a
47:06
Speaker 1: mother to say you need to travel, you need to
47:10
Speaker 1: go to college, you need to be better than me,
47:12
Speaker 1: you need to do better than me. You know, the
47:15
Speaker 1: school is your number one priority. That just pushed me
47:20
Speaker 1: to continue to see myself out of North Philly. You know,
47:25
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends didn't never been out of
47:28
Speaker 1: North Philly, so they couldn't see themselves living outside of
47:32
Speaker 1: North Philly, let alone, you know, having a business or
47:35
Speaker 1: going to college. So I think our mothers are the
47:38
Speaker 1: backbones of to while we're so successful and we're very
47:42
Speaker 1: passionate women. I grew up with six of them, so
47:46
Speaker 1: I know about the female passion. We come back, we're
47:49
Speaker 1: gonna find out how big her bakery is, either pros
47:52
Speaker 1: and cons of franchising, what to consider before franchises. She said,
47:56
Speaker 1: you know, she was about to sign another local franchise
47:58
Speaker 1: location bakery, and and she sat down with the nothing
48:01
Speaker 1: but cake individuals, and they said, hey, we're the one,
48:04
Speaker 1: and she's not looked back. If we're right back with more. Charlie,
48:07
Speaker 1: Sha Bass, Charlie, you got another phone called? Is that
48:11
Speaker 1: Tayron or Tayron Tarn? Is it tarn like the capital right? Okay?
48:21
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, my friend, and I I apologize. And my
48:23
Speaker 1: name is Roshaun. You think I would get everybody's name right?
48:25
Speaker 1: And I apologize. I apologize. Yeah, yeah, I say the
48:30
Speaker 1: same thing when I get someone else's name. Well, one
48:34
Speaker 1: name I can't get wrong. It's Charlie. It's Charlie's. Charlie's
48:37
Speaker 1: on the show with me and we're talking about franchising.
48:40
Speaker 1: What's your question today that you might want to ask
48:41
Speaker 1: me or her? Well, I just wanted to, uh, you know,
48:45
Speaker 1: give give y'all props. Um. I listened to w c
48:49
Speaker 1: OKA often and I just was listening in on the
48:54
Speaker 1: conversation and I just wanted to say, you know, thank
48:58
Speaker 1: you all for just support the black owned businesses as
49:02
Speaker 1: well as you know, small businesses and on the whole,
49:05
Speaker 1: but black owned. It's definitely what is your name? I'm sorry?
49:19
Speaker 1: You know, I really appreciate the ron because of the
49:21
Speaker 1: fact that you know, when you when you're trying to
49:23
Speaker 1: talk to people, there's fear and that you know, especially
49:27
Speaker 1: when you're offering advices like what's what's the scam? Because
49:29
Speaker 1: black people have a natural you know, scam radar. You know,
49:33
Speaker 1: there's another agenda here, and the agenda here is just
49:36
Speaker 1: providing information. That's all and and basically what we're having
49:40
Speaker 1: it's just a conversation and we as allowing you to
49:44
Speaker 1: listen in on our conversation that we might have at
49:46
Speaker 1: a restaurant that we might have You know, walking down
49:49
Speaker 1: the street and these questions, Like Victoria was so excited
49:52
Speaker 1: to hear you call in and say, I really appreciate
49:55
Speaker 1: this conversation. It's what we want to hear. That's the
49:57
Speaker 1: conversation you want to create. And the thing I love
49:59
Speaker 1: the a boy Charlie's conversation was she was just a
50:02
Speaker 1: business minded person that got into this and that what
50:05
Speaker 1: stops so many people. You didn't have to be a baker.
50:08
Speaker 1: You just had to have the passion and the ability
50:11
Speaker 1: to work hard to achieve your successes a franchise e.
50:14
Speaker 1: That's what excites me about the conversation. What are your thoughts? Absolutely, well,
50:20
Speaker 1: you know the journey. The journey sometimes you know in
50:24
Speaker 1: the beginning is the shaky road, you know, and it
50:29
Speaker 1: takes you know, it takes that vision to be ignited.
50:34
Speaker 1: And like you said, you know, fear is that thing
50:37
Speaker 1: that stops most people's ideas and visions and goals because
50:42
Speaker 1: they don't really know what they're stepping into. And as
50:45
Speaker 1: I was hearing her story and stories before hers, um,
50:50
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely related. And you know again, um,
50:54
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just appreciated just hearing everyone's
50:59
Speaker 1: journey to where they are now, and um, and I
51:01
Speaker 1: know that you know in the future, I know, I'm quitty,
51:04
Speaker 1: sure there is you know, there's a long term goals
51:09
Speaker 1: you know, this is you know other goals that. Yeah,
51:11
Speaker 1: but but as far as what I've heard, you know,
51:14
Speaker 1: I definitely related to. So thank you. I appreciate because
51:18
Speaker 1: she has a little announcement to tell us. Then thank
51:20
Speaker 1: you for calling on the show here moneyment covers? Are
51:23
Speaker 1: you telling me? Off air? He was talking about long
51:25
Speaker 1: term goal, short term goal. Now, short term goal was
51:28
Speaker 1: just to get all place open and bakery with a
51:31
Speaker 1: name on it. There was Repstable. Yeah, now you told
51:33
Speaker 1: me all fair of what else is about to happen
51:35
Speaker 1: in your life as an entrepreneur as a franchise e.
51:39
Speaker 1: Well you now are Sean. I let my CPA license
51:43
Speaker 1: labs and so I said, you know what, accounty, that's
51:47
Speaker 1: not my thing anymore. This is my thing now. So
51:50
Speaker 1: now how can I transition to this to legacy to
51:55
Speaker 1: open another one? Wow? Yeah? So, um, thank god I
52:00
Speaker 1: just got my approval. A couple of weeks ago. I
52:02
Speaker 1: was nervously just like, oh, I hope I could announce
52:04
Speaker 1: on the show. But it was a true blessing and
52:06
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work. You know, I definitely deserved it. Um,
52:10
Speaker 1: Tucker is four and a half years old now, so
52:13
Speaker 1: I kind of worked through the kinks of being a
52:16
Speaker 1: small business entrepreneur to you know, now be confident to
52:21
Speaker 1: open another one. Now, what's the timeline of being on
52:24
Speaker 1: that opening? So the territory is central Atlanta? Hey, Atlanta
52:28
Speaker 1: were coming? Um, you know, I was like, I mean,
52:32
Speaker 1: where is it Atlanta? You know, so Tucker was the
52:35
Speaker 1: closest location to the city of Atlanta, So our second
52:38
Speaker 1: baby will be in the city. We're going to cover
52:42
Speaker 1: everything from North Shrewood Hills to downtown. Okay, so we
52:47
Speaker 1: got Atlanta covered. Yeah. Well you gotta know you got
52:50
Speaker 1: your third phone call, Thomas. How are you doing? Thomas
52:53
Speaker 1: H Thomas, Charlie's here long with Rashan McDonald. What's your question.
52:58
Speaker 1: I just want to say good even to both through you.
53:00
Speaker 1: I'm an avid listener. Want to commend Charlie and the
53:04
Speaker 1: system before a CPR just for all that you're doing
53:09
Speaker 1: me being a business owner myself, a new a fairly
53:12
Speaker 1: new business owner. The want that you talked about, Charlie,
53:17
Speaker 1: the pivoted you know, giving you have an accounting background,
53:20
Speaker 1: doing something totally unrelated to what you were doing, and
53:24
Speaker 1: the thing that I find to be true and you
53:26
Speaker 1: sound of a similar nature. But God, I commend you.
53:31
Speaker 1: Commend you, commend you. I love or son for this
53:34
Speaker 1: platform giving others to come on here to learn, quire, share,
53:40
Speaker 1: continue to build an uplift each other. And like Rashun
53:43
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, that fear, I too know. I've wrestled
53:46
Speaker 1: with it for years, but by the grace of God,
53:49
Speaker 1: last year I pushed through myself. So I can go
53:53
Speaker 1: on and on, but I won't. I just keep it short.
53:55
Speaker 1: But I just want to commend you. I'm gonna make
53:57
Speaker 1: I eat it nothing, nothing but cakes every now and again.
54:03
Speaker 1: I was first introduced to it about three years ago
54:05
Speaker 1: at a corporate function, and I do make it a
54:07
Speaker 1: point to go there. Now that I know that you
54:10
Speaker 1: have a location in Tucker, I'm gonna make it a
54:12
Speaker 1: point specifically to come to see your location. Thank you, Thomas,
54:17
Speaker 1: and congratulations to you as well. Thank you. I just
54:21
Speaker 1: wish you well to much success on your current store
54:23
Speaker 1: as well as your new endeavors you're about to embark upon.
54:26
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you so much. Thank you so much. Well,
54:29
Speaker 1: you know this is the Charlie's your bass show. She's
54:33
Speaker 1: your co host of money making Conversation, Mouse to Class
54:35
Speaker 1: and Charlie the second location. Yes, so we're just working
54:41
Speaker 1: through the l OI. And you know, for those of
54:44
Speaker 1: you who are thinking about owning a business having a
54:48
Speaker 1: brick and mortar, an actual storefront, an LI is a
54:53
Speaker 1: lease of intent. So before you have at lease for space,
54:58
Speaker 1: you negotiate kind of the upfront. How much am I
55:02
Speaker 1: going to pay per square foot? How much is this?
55:05
Speaker 1: How much is that? How long will the least term be?
55:07
Speaker 1: What do you cover? What do I cover? You know,
55:09
Speaker 1: so exactly. So we got really lucky with Tucker because
55:15
Speaker 1: it was a brand new construction, brand new facility, brand
55:18
Speaker 1: new plaza, brand in space. The timing was right because
55:22
Speaker 1: the unit was not built out yet, so we were
55:26
Speaker 1: able to work with my contractors and my landlord and
55:29
Speaker 1: do everything one time. You know, a lot of times
55:32
Speaker 1: you're working with a structure and you know your your
55:36
Speaker 1: architect says, no, the sink should be up over here,
55:38
Speaker 1: so now you got to dig up the cement, move
55:41
Speaker 1: the pipes, you know. So we were able to save
55:43
Speaker 1: a lot of money just by working together from the
55:46
Speaker 1: very beginning and getting everything built out the way that
55:49
Speaker 1: it was required. So I was I don't think that's
55:53
Speaker 1: I know that's not going to be the case for
55:54
Speaker 1: the second one. It's an existing structure for the space
55:57
Speaker 1: that I would like to hopefully UM move into. It's
56:02
Speaker 1: off of Morelin. It's a really crazy busy plaza. But
56:06
Speaker 1: I think nothing bunch cakes can hold our own. And
56:09
Speaker 1: now you delivered to my offer. I did. Now, how
56:12
Speaker 1: are you gonna do that? Because you like that personal touch.
56:14
Speaker 1: You'd like to be on the front line of meeting
56:16
Speaker 1: your customers things like that, you know, and I still will.
56:18
Speaker 1: I just won't be able to do all of them right,
56:21
Speaker 1: you know, um you I absolutely need a full team
56:24
Speaker 1: to help me be completely successful. I think I am
56:28
Speaker 1: best at building relationships marketing. That's my new job. I'm
56:32
Speaker 1: out the Decab Chambers of Commerce. I'm a member there.
56:35
Speaker 1: I'm a member of my Tucker and Business Association. I'm
56:39
Speaker 1: out planning the seeds, you know, so when they start
56:43
Speaker 1: to grow, the business can grow. UM. And you just
56:46
Speaker 1: gotta know what you're what you're good at, and when
56:48
Speaker 1: you're not good at. I've met other business owners who
56:50
Speaker 1: are not people people, right, you know, so they hire
56:54
Speaker 1: other people to do that for them. It's a gift.
56:59
Speaker 1: It's a gift, and I'm thankful for it, and I'm
57:02
Speaker 1: thankful to be in the position to be able to
57:04
Speaker 1: build those relationships because a lot of times businesses come
57:07
Speaker 1: to communities and they take take take from the community,
57:10
Speaker 1: and they don't give back to the community. So it's
57:12
Speaker 1: very important to me to give back to the community
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Speaker 1: that I live in. I'm still a resident of Tucker.
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Speaker 1: Hi Roshan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your
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Speaker 1: daily Minute of Inspiration. I sat down with the one
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