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Spy Games in D.C.—Patel, Wiles, Noem were victims in Deep-State Surveillance Scandal · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Good Friday morning. It's nice to have you with us
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  Speaker 2: on the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got a
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  Speaker 2: big story for you. Joe Biden's FBI was spying on
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  Speaker 2: Cash Betel and now FBI director and Susie Wilds, the
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  Speaker 2: chief of staff at the White House right now. They
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  Speaker 2: were spying on them and their phone records and even
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  Speaker 2: tapping one of the phone calls that we know about
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  Speaker 2: of Susie Wilds. All of this during the federal Trump investigation.
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  Speaker 2: So what happens next and what did we learn about this?
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  Speaker 2: It's shocking and I've got it all for you. But
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  Speaker 3: Now story number one.
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  Speaker 2: At least ten FBI employees who worked on former Special
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  Speaker 2: Council Jack Smith's investigation to President Donald Trump's retention of
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  Speaker 2: classified records after he left the White House in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one were fired on Wednesday. Multiple sources are now
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  Speaker 2: confirming the firings came after Reuters reported that the FBI
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  Speaker 2: had subpoena records of phone calls that were made by
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  Speaker 2: the FBI Director Cash Pattel and White House Chief of
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  Speaker 2: Staff Suzy Wilds when they were still both private citizens
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  Speaker 2: as part of Smith's probe into Donald Trump. The BIDENI
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  Speaker 2: c crequrrently obtained Susie Wilde's phone records, including from when
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  Speaker 2: she was Trump's campaign manager, and they even record a
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  Speaker 2: phone call she had with her lawyer. Yes, it is
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  Speaker 2: an insane story now. Patel said the collection of phone
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  Speaker 2: records extended into Wilde's time as Trump's co campaign manager.
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  Speaker 2: He did not say when exactly the record collection began
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  Speaker 2: or when it ended. The FBI discovered the phone records
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  Speaker 2: and files categorized as prohibited quote unquote, which makes them
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  Speaker 2: difficult to discover on the bureau's computer system. Patel said,
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  Speaker 2: he recently ended the FBI's ability to categorize files as prohibited.
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  Speaker 2: Smith's investigative techniques have previously drawn shock from GOP leaders,
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  Speaker 2: including the seizure of phone records of US senators and
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  Speaker 2: other Republican officials during Smith's probe into alleged efforts to
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  Speaker 2: overturn the twenty twenty presidential election. Reuters also could not
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  Speaker 2: establish when records the FBI obtained or who approved those subpoenas.
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  Speaker 2: The news agency also couldn't ascertain of Pateeller Wiles themselves
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  Speaker 2: were actually under investigation, and if so, why now. Both
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  Speaker 2: were close to Donald Trump during that period as he
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  Speaker 2: built towards and ultimately launched his twenty twenty four campaign
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  Speaker 2: to reclaim his presidency. Both Patel and Susie Wilde's were
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  Speaker 2: known to have been interviewed by investigators as part of
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  Speaker 2: Smith's investigation into Trump's retention of classified documents following his
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  Speaker 2: first term and that raid at mar Lago in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three. For example, the FBI recorded a phone call
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  Speaker 2: we're now being told between Wiles and our attorney. According
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  Speaker 2: to two FBI officials, Wiles attorneys was aware that the
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  Speaker 2: call was being recorded and consented to it, but Susie
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  Speaker 2: was not a spokesman for Smith to cline a comment
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  Speaker 2: on Betel's allegations. As well, Biden and former Attorney General
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  Speaker 2: Merritt Garland and former FBI Director Chris Ray, who oversaw
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  Speaker 2: the Bureau during Smith's investigations, did not respond to any
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  Speaker 2: of the requests for comment from the media. Garland appointed
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  Speaker 2: Smith as his special counsel. Everyone buried the lead. Here
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  Speaker 2: is what one person said on x It's not just
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  Speaker 2: that the FBI subpoena Cash and Susie's phone records. The
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  Speaker 2: FBI recorded a phone call between Wiles and her attorney.
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  Speaker 2: Even worse, the lawyer knew the FBI recorded the conversation
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  Speaker 2: and didn't tell his own client, Susie Wilds. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to take a listen to this from Fox News
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  Speaker 2: Channel with Brett Baer. As they were reporting more on
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  Speaker 2: the story.
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  Speaker 4: The FBI director Cash Betel out with an allegation that
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  Speaker 4: the prior f FBI obtained his phone records, and not
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  Speaker 4: only his What can tell us about that, Brett?
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  Speaker 5: This has been breaking in the last hour or so.
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  Speaker 5: We are told that, according to Cash Bettel, the FBI director,
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  Speaker 5: the prior Bureau leadership obtained his phone records and phone
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  Speaker 5: records to current White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles
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  Speaker 5: back in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. This
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  Speaker 5: eventually led into the Jack Smith Special Council investigation into
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  Speaker 5: then former President Donald Trump. We're told that some of
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  Speaker 5: these records are just toll records, which don't have specific
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  Speaker 5: information other than times and dates. They don't have the
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  Speaker 5: actual content of calls. But two sources in the FBI
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  Speaker 5: say that Susie Wiles's attorney agreed to be recorded by
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  Speaker 5: FBI agents in twenty twenty three. She did not agree.
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  Speaker 5: We've reached out to her for comment. FBI Director Bateel,
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  Speaker 5: in a statement to Fox News calls this outrageous and
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  Speaker 5: deeply disturbing. And I will add Brett that we are
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  Speaker 5: told at least ten bureau employees have been fired just
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  Speaker 5: today over this incident, with more potentially to come.
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  Speaker 2: You listen to the ten that were fired, and that
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  Speaker 2: is a start, is what many would describe it as.
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  Speaker 2: But then there's the bigger question. What happens when the
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  Speaker 2: justice system collides with politics? What happens when millions of
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  Speaker 2: Americans start to believe that prosecutors are no longer neutral referees,
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  Speaker 2: but active participants in a political war. Over the last
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  Speaker 2: several years, we have watched the unprecedented targeting the President
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, the investigations, the indictments, the subpoenas, the grand juries,
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  Speaker 2: all led by Jack Smith and appointed by the Attorney
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  Speaker 2: General Garland all of this under President Joe Biden. Now
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  Speaker 2: here's what the shock factor comes in for many Americans,
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  Speaker 2: because the simple question is was there even wrongdoing? Well,
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  Speaker 2: the question many Americans are now asking is how did
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  Speaker 2: the federal government cross this line? Jack Smith, he was
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  Speaker 2: appointed in November of twenty twenty two, it was clear
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  Speaker 2: it was a witch hunt. He was there to oversee
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  Speaker 2: the political targeting the President Trump. They then decided to
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  Speaker 2: go after him for documents at mar Lago. From the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: critics argue that this was not simply a legal review,
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  Speaker 2: but more of an aggressive, politically motivated prosecution of the
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  Speaker 2: leading candidate to challenge Joe Biden in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Was the motive to cover for Joe Biden's cognitive decline
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  Speaker 2: and make sure he didn't have to get into a
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  Speaker 2: tough election with Donald Trump. That is, for well, different
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  Speaker 2: people to decide, But to be clear, federal prosecutors and
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  Speaker 2: investigators do have the authority to collect evidence when pursuing
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  Speaker 2: a criminal investigation. The question is was it actually a
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  Speaker 2: criminal investigation or was it just a political one. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the more we're finding out, it's pretty clear it was
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  Speaker 2: all politics and not actually a political investigation. I'd say
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  Speaker 2: to America, making it clear he wasn't going to back down.
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  Speaker 2: And it's also shocking how much abuse of power there
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  Speaker 2: was at the highest levels. Now, if you think it's
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  Speaker 2: just Donald Trump that this is happening too when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to surveillance, you would also be wrong. In a
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  Speaker 2: shocking news event today, the woman who's in charge of
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security, Christy Nome, came out and
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  Speaker 2: said that she found spyware on her phone that was
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  Speaker 2: put there by the Department of Homeland Security employees. Take
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  Speaker 2: a listen to this.
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  Speaker 6: Came into this office. It was you know, Elon and
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  Speaker 6: his team were extremely helpful to me. They helped me
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  Speaker 6: identify that some of my own employees in my department
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  Speaker 6: had downloaded software on my phone and my laptop to
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  Speaker 6: spy on me stop to record our meetings. Wow, they
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  Speaker 6: had done that to several of the politicals.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: And so we ended up bringing in people and that
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  Speaker 6: was something that if you didn't have those technology experts
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  Speaker 6: here in the department looking at all of our laptops
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  Speaker 6: and our phones and recognizing that kind of software, it
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  Speaker 6: would still be happening.
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  Speaker 5: Today's what happened to the individual that was uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: had your phone that was being spied on. What happened
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  Speaker 5: to those individuals?
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  Speaker 6: Fired fire, brought in polygraphed, fired, yes, many of them
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  Speaker 6: out of that that arm of the department that are
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  Speaker 6: in charge of security on laptops phones. Also, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we had to sweep my office on a regular basis
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  Speaker 6: to make sure that there's not listening devices in it.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's very uh, it was very prevalent. And I
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  Speaker 6: think that what happened at this department was individuals had
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  Speaker 6: gotten away with for years spying on people who were
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  Speaker 6: politically appointed and trying to stop an administration that was
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  Speaker 6: coming in and trying to fix this country and keep
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  Speaker 6: us safe.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when you listen to what Chrissy Noom just
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  Speaker 2: said there, I mean it is shocking but also not surprising.
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  Speaker 2: This administration weaponized everything that they could possibly weaponize, I
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  Speaker 2: mean anything that could weaponize to go after their political opponents.
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  Speaker 2: But think about just how corrupt this is. You have
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  Speaker 2: the woman that's coming in who's in charge the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Home in Security, and her own employees are putting
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  Speaker 2: spyware to spy on their boss on her phone as
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  Speaker 2: the woman in charge of the Department of Homeland Security.
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  Speaker 2: How does no one go to jail for this stuff?
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  Speaker 2: That's the question that every American is asking right now,
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  Speaker 2: and it's also a question that the President should be asking,
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  Speaker 2: and that is when do we start arresting people for
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  Speaker 2: doing these types of things. It's certainly something to think about.
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