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MS-13 & Harvard-Democrats Defend More Illegal Aliens, More Gang Members, More Anti-Semites & More Anti-American Radicals · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome and his verdic with Center. Ted Kruz, Ben Ferguson
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Speaker 1: with You and Center. This may be one of the
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Speaker 1: most interesting stories we've gotten to talk about in a while,
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Speaker 1: and that is Democrats are so hell bent on being
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Speaker 1: the opposite of Donald Trump and Conservatives that they're now
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Speaker 1: advocating for people that are members of terrorist gang organizations
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Speaker 1: and demanding that we bring illegals back into America. You
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Speaker 1: cannot make this up. Well.
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Speaker 2: Ever since the election in November, Democrats have been flailing about.
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Speaker 2: They have been unable to coalesce behind any clear platform,
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Speaker 2: any clear policy agenda other than hatred for Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: and anger at rage at the voters for re electing him.
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Speaker 2: They've now seemed to settle on two policy positions, which
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Speaker 2: I have to admit are curious policy positions for a
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Speaker 2: party that was just resoundingly defeated at the polls. Number One,
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Speaker 2: Democrats have apparently decided the issue that's going to bring
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Speaker 2: them back to power is that Democrats want more illegal aliens,
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Speaker 2: and especially more illegal aliens who have been found by
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Speaker 2: courts to be members of MS thirteen. That's a fairly
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Speaker 2: remarkable position, and yet that is where they are Secondly,
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Speaker 2: they have decided that what we need in our college
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Speaker 2: campuses is more anti Semitism, more radicals, more Prohamas protesters,
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Speaker 2: and more anti American zealots who hate our nation. Now,
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Speaker 2: I got to say, Ben, as I say both of
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Speaker 2: those propositions, the words coming out of my mouth sound
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Speaker 2: absurd except for the fact that that is exactly where
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Speaker 2: today's Democrat party has decided to land. We're going to
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Speaker 2: lay out the facts behind both of those, both the
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Speaker 2: all in Democrat rush to get behind bringing more illegals
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Speaker 2: who are MS thirteen gang members back into this country,
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Speaker 2: and the Democrats defense of Harvard University, which is decided
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Speaker 2: they're not going to change a damn thing. They're going
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Speaker 2: to continue to discriminate on race, and they're going to
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Speaker 2: continue to let in every anti Semite they want to,
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Speaker 2: and who the heck is the federal government to try
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Speaker 2: to enforce civil rights laws against them. We're going to
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Speaker 2: break both those stories down today.
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Speaker 1: this story, and Democrats are now coalescing around an individual
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Speaker 1: that was deported out of this cunt. And not only
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Speaker 1: are they rallying, but they're putting together apparently a dead
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Speaker 1: delegation that they want to send down to L. Salvador
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Speaker 1: to quote stand up for the illegal immigrant that's a
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Speaker 1: MS thirteen gang member.
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Speaker 2: Well, there was an illegal immigrant whom the Trump administration
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Speaker 2: deported to L.
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Speaker 3: Salvador.
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Speaker 2: Abrego Garcia is his name, and he was here illegally.
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Speaker 2: Everyone admits that he came into this country illegally, and
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Speaker 2: he was also adjudicated not once, but twice to be
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Speaker 2: an MS thirteen gang member. Now President Trump has determined
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Speaker 2: MS thirteen to be a terrorist organization, and so he
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Speaker 2: was apprehended and he was deported by the Trump administration. Now,
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Speaker 2: it so happened that there was a court order that
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Speaker 2: said not that Abrego Garcia could not be deported, but
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Speaker 2: that he could not be deported back to l Salvador,
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Speaker 2: which is where he's from. He's an El Salvadorian national,
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Speaker 2: and that court order was a long it was an
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Speaker 2: older court order that was miss that was over looked,
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Speaker 2: and he was deported and sent to El Salvador. And
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Speaker 2: the Democrats have decided that that error is sufficient reason
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Speaker 2: they are jumping on airplanes and headed down to El
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Speaker 2: Salvador to apparently go camp outside the prison camp where
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Speaker 2: terrorists and murders and rapists are held, to say, you
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Speaker 2: know what America needs is more of those terrorists, murderers,
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Speaker 2: and rapists back in America. Now, I got to say
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Speaker 2: that that's a stunning position. So here's how the Washington
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Speaker 2: Examiner put it. Quote to hear Democrats like Chris Murphy
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Speaker 2: tell it, Garcia was just an innocent, doting father who
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Speaker 2: was randomly targeted by the Trump administrations to be sent
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Speaker 2: to El Salvador's terrorism confinement. Senator the Supreme Court then
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Speaker 2: ordered Trump to return this quote legal resident back to
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Speaker 2: the United States. Trump is refused, sending our nation into
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Speaker 2: a constitutional crisis. Senator Van Holland has even announced that
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Speaker 2: he's going to personally travel to El Salvador. To bring
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Speaker 2: Garcia home because you know that's what you want. It's
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Speaker 2: Democrats trafficking an illegal immigrants. Sure, the problem is that
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Speaker 2: Democrats leave a lot out of Garcia's story, and the
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Speaker 2: truth makes Trump's failure to return him quite reasonable. For starters,
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Speaker 2: Garcia was not in the United States legally, by the way.
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Speaker 2: Nobody disputes that. That is undisputed by his lawyer's own admission.
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Speaker 2: He enters the country illegally in twenty eleven. Then eight
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Speaker 2: years later, Garcia was arrested at home Depot while illegally
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Speaker 2: soliciting employment the Princes The Prince George's County Police Department
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Speaker 2: then transferred him to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which began
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Speaker 2: deportation proceedings against him. As a defense to deportation, Garcia
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Speaker 2: tried to claim asylum, claiming that his life was in
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Speaker 2: danger from the Barrio eighteen gang. But his asylum claim
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Speaker 2: was denied and the judge ordered his removal. Let me
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Speaker 2: repeat that statement. But his asylum claim was denied and
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Speaker 2: the judge ordered his removal. Now here's the sentence that
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Speaker 2: complicates it. The judge did, however, grant Garcia a quote
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Speaker 2: withholding of removal order forbidding his removal to l Salvador,
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Speaker 2: but that did not make him a legal resident, as
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Speaker 2: Garcia's own lawyers admit, should the Trump administration wish to
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Speaker 2: remove plain if Ibrego Garcia to any other country, they
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Speaker 2: would have no legal impediment in doing so. And so
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Speaker 2: these are the facts that the Democrats have decided their
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Speaker 2: party is all about. You want to know what is
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Speaker 2: today's Democrat party stand for? More illegal immigrants, more gang
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Speaker 2: members that you know what? This ain't your grandfather's Democrat party.
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Speaker 1: So you've done international trips before. And if I remember
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Speaker 1: the name, I think it's Codell. So does is this
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Speaker 1: an official delegation? If it's senators and consciencemen going down there,
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Speaker 1: this is a real Codell. The American taxpayer is going
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Speaker 1: to pay for this photo op.
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Speaker 2: Yes, And and look that's that's one of the prerogatives
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Speaker 2: of being in the Senate is that you can travel
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Speaker 2: internationally on official travel, and each senator can make it
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Speaker 2: a termination of where he or she wants to go.
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Speaker 2: And it should be related to your responsibilities, related to
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Speaker 2: your work. But particularly for someone like Van Holland or Murphy,
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Speaker 2: they both served with me on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
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Speaker 2: and so that in and of itself gives you a
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Speaker 2: significant justification to travel abroad work related. Let me give
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Speaker 2: you an example of that. If you go back during
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Speaker 2: the first Trump administration, when President Trump moved our embassy
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Speaker 2: in Israel to Jerusalem. That's something I had been fighting
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Speaker 2: for for for the entire time I've been in the Senate.
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Speaker 2: Presidents from both parties, both Republicans and Democrats, had promised
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Speaker 2: to move our embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and presidents
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Speaker 2: in both parties had broken that promise. Well, Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: followed through on that promise, and it was the right
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Speaker 2: thing to do it with something that I advocated vigorously
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Speaker 2: to President Trump repeatedly in the Oval Office for him
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Speaker 2: to do so when he did. When we were opening
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Speaker 2: our embassy about a year later, I decided I wanted
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Speaker 2: to be there and and so I went down and
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Speaker 2: and I traveled down, and there were a number of
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Speaker 2: other Senators, number of other House members that went. And
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Speaker 2: you know what was striking ben is is when the
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Speaker 2: embassy was opened. It was actually on the date of
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Speaker 2: the seventieth anniversary of the creation of the modern state
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Speaker 2: of Israel. Not a single Democrat member of Congress came.
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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer didn't come. No Democrat senators came, No Democrat
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Speaker 2: House members came. By the way, historically many congressional Democrats,
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Speaker 2: including Chuck Schumer, had called for moving our embassy to Jerusalem,
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Speaker 2: but what it was actually moved. None of them came,
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Speaker 2: and several of them whined publicly, well, the Trump administration
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Speaker 2: didn't invite us. Well, you know what, they didn't invite
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Speaker 2: me either. I don't think they invited any members of Congress.
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Speaker 2: They just opened the embassy. I ended up going, and
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Speaker 2: I actually ended up going with with my and Lindsey Graham,
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Speaker 2: and I was literally walking along in the Capitol and
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Speaker 2: I turned to Mike, who's a very dear friend of mine,
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Speaker 2: and I said, Mike, We're going to open the embassy
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Speaker 2: in Jerusalem. I've been fighting for this for years. I
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Speaker 2: want to be there. Do you want to be there too?
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Speaker 2: He said absolutely, Let's go. And Lindsay wanted to come
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Speaker 2: to and so we went out of our official budgets
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Speaker 2: with the ability to purchase plane tickets and travel, and
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Speaker 2: so we traveled there to be there. We met with
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister net and Yah who we met with Senior
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Speaker 2: government officials. That's part of the job. So look, can
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Speaker 2: the Democrats travel Del Salvador if they want and is
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Speaker 2: that part reasonably of their work? Yes, But what they're
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Speaker 2: doing is traveling there in order to highlight we want
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Speaker 2: to bring this illegal immigrant, whom two courts have found
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Speaker 2: as an MS thirteen member back to America. That's astonishingly
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Speaker 2: bad policy and I think astonishingly bad politics.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned that this is I agree with you, astonishing
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Speaker 1: policy and bet politics. But the media has been giving
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Speaker 1: them cover on this story. If you listen to the media.
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Speaker 1: I was I was watching MSNBC, for example, and they
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Speaker 1: were they were talking, you were the one we had, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was the one, right, and I was I was
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Speaker 1: watching and they had the mother who said where it's
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Speaker 1: the next number of days since he has disappeared. And
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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, well, hold on, if he's disappeared, then
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Speaker 1: how do you guys know where to go to find
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Speaker 1: him and see him and to have this delegation go
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Speaker 1: down there. Which one is it he's disappeared or you
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Speaker 1: know exactly where he is? And of course the answer
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Speaker 1: is they obviously know where he is. But MSNBC was like,
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Speaker 1: we stand with you. To the mother, like we're with
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Speaker 1: you in solidarity right now to his wife. And I'm
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Speaker 1: laughing because none of the facts have come up about
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Speaker 1: not one, but two courts saying this guy's MS thirteen
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Speaker 1: gang member.
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Speaker 2: None of these Democrats could even bring themselves to utter
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Speaker 2: the name Lincoln Riley. None of these Democrats could bring
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Speaker 2: themselves to utter the name Joscelyn Nungary. None of these
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Speaker 2: Democrats could bring themselves to utter the name Rachel Brand.
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Speaker 2: The American victims who were murdered by criminal illegal aliens
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Speaker 2: whom Democrats had released, they won't acknowledge, they won't fight for,
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Speaker 2: they don't care about. At the State of the Union
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Speaker 2: when Alexis Nungary, Jocelyn Nungare's mom was sitting next to
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Speaker 2: the First Lady, Milania Trump, and the President introduced her.
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Speaker 2: I know Jocelyn's mom really well. She's an incredible young
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Speaker 2: woman who's shown great courage and fortitude. Not a single
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Speaker 2: Democrat in the Chamber would applaud for. So they cannot
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Speaker 2: bring themselves to stand with Americans whose children have been
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Speaker 2: murdered by violent illegal immigrants whom they released. But you
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Speaker 2: give them an illegal immigrant ordered deported by a court
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Speaker 2: determined to be an MS thirteen gang member, and they
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Speaker 2: are all in and I want you to listen to
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Speaker 2: this exchange. So in the Oval office, the president of
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Speaker 2: El Salvador, President Bucelly, was here this week and he
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Speaker 2: met with President Trump in the Oval Office and there
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Speaker 2: were a number of members of the cabinet there, and
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Speaker 2: CNN of course immediately asked are you going to send
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Speaker 2: this individual back? And the exchanges is quite striking President Bukelly,
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Speaker 2: his answer was quite strong, and President Trump asked as
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Speaker 2: three people asked Pambondy, the Attorney General, asked Stephen Miller,
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Speaker 2: who's the deputy chief of staff and an expert on
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Speaker 2: immigration law, and asked Marco Rubio all to respond to
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Speaker 2: CNN's questions. And I got to say that their answers
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Speaker 2: were a masterclass in how to deal with media misinformation
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Speaker 2: and disinformation. It's a lengthy excerpts, but it's worth hearing
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Speaker 2: because it really does lay out the truth and expose
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Speaker 2: the media lies. Give a listen and.
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Speaker 4: Who your administration says was mistaken which the man who
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Speaker 4: was mistakenly deported to El Salvador.
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Speaker 5: Well, let me ask Pam, would you as to answer.
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Speaker 3: That question, Sir President, First and foremost, he was illegally
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Speaker 3: in our country. He had been illegally in our country.
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Speaker 3: And in twenty nineteen two an immigration court and an
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Speaker 3: appellate immigration court ruled that he was a member of
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Speaker 3: MS thirteen and he was illegally in our country right now.
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Speaker 3: It was a paperwork, it was additional paperwork had needed
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Speaker 3: to be done. That's up to El Salvador if they
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Speaker 3: want to return him. That's not up to us. The
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court rule President that if as El Salvador wants
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Speaker 3: to return him, this is international matters, foreign affairs. If
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Speaker 3: they wanted to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning
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Speaker 3: provide a plane.
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Speaker 6: And if you are doing a great job, and you
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Speaker 6: just also respond to that question because you know it's
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Speaker 6: asked by CNN, and they always ask it with a
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Speaker 6: slant because they're totally slanting because they don't know what's happening.
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Speaker 5: That's why nobody's watching them. But would you answer that
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Speaker 5: question also gladly?
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Speaker 4: So, as Pam mentioned, there's the illegal alien from El Salvador.
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Speaker 4: So with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador.
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Speaker 4: So it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest
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Speaker 4: that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle
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Speaker 4: their own citizens as a starting point, as two immigration
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Speaker 4: courts found that he was a member of MS thirteen.
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Speaker 4: When President Trump declared MS thirteen to be a foreign
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Speaker 4: terrorist organization, that meant that he was no longer eligible
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Speaker 4: under federal law, which I'm sure you know you're very
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Speaker 4: familiar with, the iona that he was no longer eligible
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Speaker 4: for any form of immigration or relief in the United States.
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Speaker 4: So we had a deportation order that was valid, which
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Speaker 4: meant under our law he's not even allowed to be
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Speaker 4: present in the United States and had to be returned
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Speaker 4: because of the foreign terrorist designation. This issue was then
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Speaker 4: by a district court judge completely inverted, and a district
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Speaker 4: court judge tried to tell the administration that they had
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Speaker 4: to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him
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Speaker 4: back here. That issue was raised at the Supreme Court,
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Speaker 4: and the Supreme Court said the district court order was
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Speaker 4: unallowed and its main components were reversed nine zero, unanimously
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Speaker 4: stating clearly that neither Secretary of State nor the President
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Speaker 4: could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen
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Speaker 4: of El Salvador from Al Salvador, who again is a
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Speaker 4: member of m S thirteen, which is I'm sure you understand, rapes,
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Speaker 4: little girls, murderer's woman, murder's children, is engaged in the
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Speaker 4: most barbaric activities in the world. And I can promise
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Speaker 4: you if he was your neighbor, you would move right away.
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Speaker 5: So you don't plank the Supreme Court. In the Supreme
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Speaker 5: Court save was it nine to nothing?
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Speaker 4: Yes, there's a nine zero in our favor against the
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Speaker 4: district court ruling saying that no district court has the
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Speaker 4: power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States.
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Speaker 4: As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this
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Speaker 4: individual at El salvad Or sole discretion was sent back
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Speaker 4: to our country, that we could deport him a second time. Well,
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Speaker 4: no version of this legally ends up with him ever
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Speaker 4: living here, because he is a citizen of El Sis
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Speaker 4: that is the President of Old Salvador. Your questions about
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Speaker 4: it for the court can only be drifted to him, I.
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Speaker 2: Asked, President, do you plan to return him?
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Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, and post your guys suggested that I smuggle
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Speaker 3: the terrorists in today United States?
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Speaker 5: Right, how can I smuggle how can I return him today?
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Speaker 5: ULA's just like I smuggled him into the United States
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Speaker 5: or whether we do, of course, I'm not going to
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Speaker 5: do it.
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Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, the.
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Speaker 5: Question is preposterous. How can I smuggle the terrorists in today?
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Speaker 5: United States? I don't have the power to return him
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Speaker 5: to the United States. You can release inside of but
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Speaker 5: I'm not releasing. I mean, we're not very fond of
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Speaker 5: releasing terrorists into our country.
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Speaker 3: We just turned the murder capital of the world into
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Speaker 3: the safest country of the Western hemisphere.
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Speaker 6: And he want us to go back into the releasing
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Speaker 6: criminals so they can go back to being the murder
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Speaker 6: capital of the world. And that's that's not kind of
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Speaker 6: But they'd love to have a criminal you know, schedule
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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean there's a fascino.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, sick piece of shick people. Markuld gives something to say.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Stephen Iland, I don't understand what the
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Speaker 7: confusion is. This individual is a citizen of Alsavador. He
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Speaker 7: was illegally in the United States and was returned to
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Speaker 7: his country. That's where you deport people back to their
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Speaker 7: country of origin, except for Venezuela. That wasn't refusing to
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Speaker 7: take people back of places like that. I can tell
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Speaker 7: you this, mister President. No, the foreign policy of the
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Speaker 7: United States is conducted by the President of the United States,
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Speaker 7: not by a court. And no court in the United
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Speaker 7: States has a right to conduct the foreign policy of
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Speaker 7: the United States.
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Speaker 2: Is that some senator?
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Speaker 1: You can hear it there. They laid out the facts,
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Speaker 1: the facts that the media are not telling the American people.
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Speaker 1: They laid out the connections to the terrorist organization, which
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Speaker 1: is MS thirteen. They laid out the facts that not
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Speaker 1: one but two judges have said he's an MS thirteen
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Speaker 1: gang member. And oh, by the way, when the media
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Speaker 1: says this guy did nothing wrong, he was in the
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Speaker 1: country illegally. He broke into the United States of America.
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Speaker 1: So the entire thing is propaganda from the left.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I will say on multiple media
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Speaker 2: outlets have tweeted about this illegal immigrant who's been adjudicated
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Speaker 2: to be a gang member. They keep describing him as
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Speaker 2: a quote Maryland father. So since when does an illegal
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Speaker 2: immigrant who happen to be living in Maryland make him
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Speaker 2: a Maryland father. Yes, he was in fact apprehended in Maryland,
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Speaker 2: but he is. He is from l Salvador. It's why. Actually,
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Speaker 2: they asked the president of El Salvador, are you to
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Speaker 2: send him back? And at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: the president of Al Salvador said, look, why am I?
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Speaker 2: Why would I smuggle a terrorist into the United States.
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Speaker 2: This is someone who's been found to be a member
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Speaker 2: of MS thirteen. It is illegal for him to come
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Speaker 2: to America. You're asking me, would I bring an illegal
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Speaker 2: immigrant terrorist into America? My answer is no. And the
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Speaker 2: media has no answer for that. They're like, no, no, no,
19:45
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19:49
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19:53
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19:56
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19:59
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20:03
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20:05
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20:08
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Speaker 1: Which this issue that we just talked about brings us
22:10
Speaker 1: to another double down issue with Democrats that again they
22:15
Speaker 1: without leadership in the Democratic Party right now. It's pretty
22:19
Speaker 1: clear they're trying to a figure out who's in charge,
22:22
Speaker 1: and b the radicals are getting to push the agenda,
22:26
Speaker 1: which brings us to Harvard, and Trump has said we
22:29
Speaker 1: are freezing the funding going to Harvard. They have slashed
22:34
Speaker 1: over two point two billion in funding to Harvard after
22:37
Speaker 1: the school is defied federal law, and the White House
22:41
Speaker 1: says we're not playing around. A lot of Americans, by
22:44
Speaker 1: the way, may not realize that two point two in fact,
22:47
Speaker 1: a lot more than that is going to Harvard of
22:50
Speaker 1: your tax dollars.
22:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, Harvard gets roughly nine billion dollars in federal taxpayer dollars,
22:56
Speaker 2: so it gets an enormous amount. Now, it's a huge
22:58
Speaker 2: research institution, and it does some good research. It does
23:00
Speaker 2: medical research and scientific research, and some of that researches
23:04
Speaker 2: is valuable. But but what the Trump administration is announced,
23:07
Speaker 2: the Joint Task Force on Combating Anti Semitism has announced
23:11
Speaker 2: that it's freezing over two billion dollars in multi year
23:14
Speaker 2: grants and contracts to Harvard. Uh And and that was
23:18
Speaker 2: following the school's president putting out a statement saying it
23:21
Speaker 2: would not comply with the Trump administration's demands on on
23:26
Speaker 2: anti semitism. And and I got to say, this is
23:29
Speaker 2: a battle that that Harvard and a lot of academic
23:33
Speaker 2: institutions are putting out statements in support of Harvard. So brave,
23:36
Speaker 2: so brave. Now, I will say most other institutions, when
23:39
Speaker 2: the Trump administration has threatened their funding, they've caved, and
23:42
Speaker 2: they've caved very quickly. But the other institutions are happy
23:46
Speaker 2: to applaud Harvard and say yes, yes, yes, lose your
23:48
Speaker 2: funds you're you're so brave. Uh and I And what
23:51
Speaker 2: is striking is that Democrats, Barack Obama, the Democrat governor Massachusetts,
23:57
Speaker 2: are all lining up behind Harvard and and and there
23:59
Speaker 2: is a reason when you look at the core basis
24:02
Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party.
24:04
Speaker 3: Uh.
24:05
Speaker 2: You know, there was a time in a prior generation
24:08
Speaker 2: when the Democrat Party was considered a blue collar party.
24:10
Speaker 2: And in the age of FDR, it was a party
24:12
Speaker 2: of union members and working class uh and and and
24:16
Speaker 2: in fact, one of the reasons that that FDR was
24:19
Speaker 2: was treated with contempt is because he was a very
24:22
Speaker 2: wealthy person, as many Democrats are. But but he was
24:25
Speaker 2: considered a quote traitor to his class because he was
24:27
Speaker 2: a rich man who became a historic Democrat leader. Well,
24:33
Speaker 2: that Democrat Party doesn't exist anymore. The Democrat Party no
24:36
Speaker 2: longer cares about the blue collar and in fact, they
24:38
Speaker 2: routinely destroyed blue collar jobs. Today's Democrat Party is a
24:42
Speaker 2: party of coastal elites. And and it is a party
24:44
Speaker 2: that is comprised of big universities and and and big
24:49
Speaker 2: business and big tech and big Hollywood, all of whom
24:54
Speaker 2: have overlapping problems. All of them are are in bed
24:58
Speaker 2: with China and and and all of them have been
25:01
Speaker 2: taken over by radical leftism, by cultural Marxism.
25:05
Speaker 3: As you know.
25:06
Speaker 2: The most recent book I wrote is entitled Unwoke, How
25:09
Speaker 2: to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America, And each chapter breaks
25:13
Speaker 2: down a different major institution that's been captured by the
25:16
Speaker 2: radical left. The first chapter is entitled Universities the Wuhan
25:22
Speaker 2: Lab of the Woke Virus. And what I argue is
25:26
Speaker 2: that it is universities and sadly, my alma mater, Harvard,
25:30
Speaker 2: where the woke virus was first created in a lab,
25:34
Speaker 2: and then it mutated and spread, and it spread throughout
25:38
Speaker 2: just about every other major institution in this country. And
25:41
Speaker 2: so Harvard has been the locusts of much of the
25:45
Speaker 2: radical leftism and cultural Marxism that has done enormous damage
25:49
Speaker 2: to our institutions. And Harvard is digging in, and they're
25:53
Speaker 2: claiming that they're digging in in defense of free speech.
25:58
Speaker 2: But what they're really digging in on on it is
26:01
Speaker 2: they don't want to change their policies. Number One, that
26:04
Speaker 2: discriminate on race. They love discriminating on race. They love
26:07
Speaker 2: dei that they love putting race front and center, which
26:11
Speaker 2: by the way is directly contrary to federal civil rights law.
26:15
Speaker 2: And they also want to continue admitting radical anti Semites.
26:19
Speaker 2: They want to continue looking the other way at prohamas
26:21
Speaker 2: protesters who threaten Jewish students, who threaten violence, who threaten intimidation,
26:26
Speaker 2: who call for genocide, And they want to continue admitting
26:30
Speaker 2: and promoting anti American radicals. And that includes both students
26:34
Speaker 2: and faculty. And so when the administration put a series
26:37
Speaker 2: of demands in place that Harvard said, no, I got
26:43
Speaker 2: to tell you, Harvard thinks they want this fight. In
26:46
Speaker 2: my opinion, the Trump administration is eager for this fight
26:50
Speaker 2: with Harvard. And you could not ask Harvard has an
26:52
Speaker 2: endowment of over fifty billion dollars. And you know, one
26:57
Speaker 2: of my favorite responses to that to Harvard, Everard's supposed
27:01
Speaker 2: stance on principle, where they talked about standing for the
27:04
Speaker 2: First Amendment, is Hillsdale College, which is a great college.
27:09
Speaker 2: It is a conservative college, a free market college. But
27:13
Speaker 2: one of the things they do is they don't take
27:15
Speaker 2: federal money. And Hillsdale actually twigted, well, you can say
27:17
Speaker 2: anything you like, just don't take federal money. And oddly enough,
27:21
Speaker 2: Harvard doesn't want to do that. They want the taxpayers
27:23
Speaker 2: to fund them, but they want to continue to be
27:26
Speaker 2: embracing racism and vitriolic anti American sentiment while at the
27:33
Speaker 2: same time being funded by American tax payers.
27:36
Speaker 1: So when you look at this fight, I do think
27:39
Speaker 1: one of the very interesting parts of all of this
27:41
Speaker 1: that we're talking about is now Americans are really waking
27:44
Speaker 1: up and realizing like where their money has been going,
27:47
Speaker 1: how much of it is going. And you're right, there's
27:49
Speaker 1: some of this as research, and that's thing we can
27:51
Speaker 1: be proud of, and that's a good thing, But a
27:53
Speaker 1: lot of this is going to indoctrinating kids with radical
27:56
Speaker 1: leftist ideals. And that's part of the reason why I
28:00
Speaker 1: think they need this money, right, They want the money
28:02
Speaker 1: for that reason. They've been doing a great job of
28:04
Speaker 1: doing that for the last several decades. So if the
28:07
Speaker 1: money does dry up at places like Harvard and then
28:11
Speaker 1: we start to see more questions being asked about other money.
28:14
Speaker 1: Not only could this change universities in a positive way,
28:17
Speaker 1: I think, for free speech and not having one set
28:20
Speaker 1: of views that are indoctrinated, but it could also save
28:24
Speaker 1: the taxpayers a hell of a lot of money because
28:25
Speaker 1: it's not just Harvard that's getting cash.
28:28
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but Harvard is the perfect test subject. And
28:31
Speaker 2: our universities right now have become indoctrination labs. They've become
28:36
Speaker 2: places that enforce rigid orthodoxy. And if you say something
28:40
Speaker 2: that is contrary to the radical leftist view, you risk
28:44
Speaker 2: being disciplined, you risk being having your grades, and you
28:48
Speaker 2: also risk just not being admitted. And look, some of
28:51
Speaker 2: the question comes down to a very simple what is
28:55
Speaker 2: it that the administration was requesting? Because if the administration
29:00
Speaker 2: was demanding Harvard must teach in every class that Donald
29:03
Speaker 2: Trump is the greatest president who have ever lived, I
29:06
Speaker 2: would agree with Harvard that no university could give in
29:09
Speaker 2: to a government demand about a specific position like that,
29:14
Speaker 2: particularly if it's one they disagree with. But that's not
29:17
Speaker 2: what the Trump administration said. And I have in front
29:19
Speaker 2: of me the letter that the Trump administration said. It's
29:23
Speaker 2: five pages. I'm not going to read it all, but
29:24
Speaker 2: I'm going to read some of the portions of it.
29:27
Speaker 2: So it is addressed both to Alan Garber, who is
29:31
Speaker 2: the president of Harvard University, and the Penny Prisker, who
29:34
Speaker 2: is the lead member of the Harvard Corporation. Penny Pritzker,
29:37
Speaker 2: by the way, was a cabinet member under Barack Obama.
29:39
Speaker 2: And the Harvard Corporation runs all of Harvard. And it's
29:42
Speaker 2: this privately held corporation of all Democrats that run Harvard
29:47
Speaker 2: as this left wing bastion. Here's how the letter begins.
29:51
Speaker 2: Dear doctor Garber, the United States has invested in Harvard
29:55
Speaker 2: University's operation because of the value to the country of
29:57
Speaker 2: scholarly discovery and academic excellence. But an investment is not
30:02
Speaker 2: an entitlement. It depends on Harvard upholding federal civil rights law,
30:06
Speaker 2: and it only makes sense if Harvard fosters the kind
30:08
Speaker 2: of environment that produces intellectual creativity and scholarly rigor, both
30:13
Speaker 2: of which are antithetical to ideological capture. Harvard has in
30:18
Speaker 2: recent years failed to live up to both the intellectual
30:21
Speaker 2: and civil rights conditions that justify federal investment, but we
30:25
Speaker 2: appreciate your expression of commitment to repairing those failures and
30:28
Speaker 2: welcome your collaboration in restoring the university to its promise.
30:32
Speaker 2: We therefore present the below provisions as the basis for
30:35
Speaker 2: an agreement in principle that will maintain Harvard's financial relationship
30:38
Speaker 2: with the federal government. Here's the first governance and leadership reforms.
30:45
Speaker 2: By August twenty twenty five, Harvard must make meaningful governance
30:49
Speaker 2: reform and restructuring to make possible major change consistent with
30:53
Speaker 2: this letter, including fostering clear lines of authority and accountability.
30:58
Speaker 2: Apparently that was objectionable. Empowering tenured professors and senior leadership,
31:03
Speaker 2: and from among the tenured professorate and senior leadership exclusively
31:08
Speaker 2: those most devoted to the scholarly mission of the university
31:11
Speaker 2: and committed to the changes indicated in this letter. Reducing
31:15
Speaker 2: the power held by students and untenured faculty. Reducing the
31:19
Speaker 2: power held by faculty, whether tenured or untenured, at administrators
31:23
Speaker 2: more committed to activism than scholarship. Now, again, this is
31:28
Speaker 2: something Harvard found unacceptable. We're not willing to focus on
31:31
Speaker 2: scholarship instead of activism. Note that's a violation of what
31:35
Speaker 2: we want to do. And reducing forms of governance bloat, duplication,
31:39
Speaker 2: or decentralization that interfere with the possibility of reforms indicating
31:44
Speaker 2: this letter. So that's the first one. Apparently something was
31:47
Speaker 2: objectionable about that.
31:48
Speaker 3: What's the next one?
31:49
Speaker 2: Merit based hiring reform by August twenty twenty five, the
31:54
Speaker 2: university must adopt and implement merit based hiring policies and
31:57
Speaker 2: ceased all preferences based on race, color, religion, sex, or
32:01
Speaker 2: national origin throughout its hiring, promotion, compensation, and related practices
32:06
Speaker 2: among faculty, staff, and leadership. Now, mind you, that is
32:10
Speaker 2: existing federal civil rights law, you cannot discriminate against based
32:14
Speaker 2: on race. And yet for Harvard that is it is outrageous.
32:19
Speaker 2: Of course they want to discriminate based on race. It's
32:22
Speaker 2: an ideological commitment. What's the next one? Merit based admissions reform?
32:27
Speaker 2: By August twenty twenty five, the university must adopt and
32:29
Speaker 2: implement merit based admission policies and cease all preferences based
32:33
Speaker 2: on race, color, national origin, or proxies thereof throughout its
32:37
Speaker 2: undergraduate program, each graduate program, individual, each of its professional schools,
32:41
Speaker 2: and other programs. Again, the idea of actually admitting students
32:45
Speaker 2: based on merit rather than discriminating based on race, which
32:49
Speaker 2: minds you? Discriminating based on race as illegal under federal
32:51
Speaker 2: civil rights law. To Harvard is anathema. What's the next one?
32:57
Speaker 2: International admissions reform? By August twenty twenty five, the university
33:01
Speaker 2: must reform its recruitment, screening, and admission of international students
33:06
Speaker 2: to prevent admitting students hostile to the American values and
33:12
Speaker 2: institutions inscribed in the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence,
33:17
Speaker 2: including students supportive of terrorism or anti Semitism. Again, apparently
33:24
Speaker 2: that is outrageous and unacceptable. The next one viewpoint diversity
33:29
Speaker 2: and admission and hiring. By August twenty twenty five, the
33:32
Speaker 2: university shall commission an external party which will satisfy the
33:37
Speaker 2: Federal Government as to its competence and good faith, to
33:39
Speaker 2: audit the student body, faculty, staff, and leadership for viewpoint
33:43
Speaker 2: diversity such that each department, field, or teaching unit must
33:48
Speaker 2: be individually viewpoint diverse. Now, notably, they're not saying higher conservatives.
33:52
Speaker 2: They're not saying hire Trump supporters. They're saying you cannot
33:56
Speaker 2: have a faculty that is aversally orthodox and indoctrinating that
34:02
Speaker 2: all have the same view that. You know, the left
34:05
Speaker 2: loves to prattle on abo about diversity as our strength,
34:08
Speaker 2: and by diversity they mean we must all be leftist
34:11
Speaker 2: to believe the same thing, but saith though with different
34:14
Speaker 2: skin colors. Now, I actually think diversity means having different ideas,
34:19
Speaker 2: confronting ideas you disagree with. Look, I go through these
34:24
Speaker 2: to give an example. I think each of those demands
34:26
Speaker 2: are very reasonable. They're saying, comply with federal law. Be
34:30
Speaker 2: an institution that actually does what you say, what you
34:33
Speaker 2: claim to be doing. And yet Harvard is outraged. How
34:38
Speaker 2: dare you hold us to the terms of federal law.
34:42
Speaker 2: We cannot comply with that.
34:45
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