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Rushion Interviews Dr. Jamal Bryant: How To Prosper From Your Finances Using Biblical Teachings! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, ra
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions
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  Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of
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  Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals
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  Speaker 1: and live their very best life. It is time to
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  Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.
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  Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you
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  Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let
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  Speaker 1: your friends, family, or co workers stop you from planning
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  Speaker 1: or living your dreams. My guests, as a civil rights
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  Speaker 1: activists that has always prevailed against the odds, rising from
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  Speaker 1: g E D to PhD. He's a community organizer. Dr
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  Speaker 1: Jamal Harrison Bryan. He combines sound biblical teaching, business acumen,
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  Speaker 1: and political insight to propel the Body of Christ to
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  Speaker 1: action and graded levels of faith. He's the senior pastor
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  Speaker 1: of New Birth Missionary Bapti Church. A graduate of More
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  Speaker 1: Health College and of Duke University, his leadership efforts have
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  Speaker 1: always begin to strengthen the multigeneration of bond among members,
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  Speaker 1: expanding in the outreach, cultivate families, and expanded churches cultural
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  Speaker 1: significance please work with the Money Making Conversations Master Class
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  Speaker 1: for the very first time and hopefully not the last.
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  Speaker 1: Dr Jamal Harrison Bryan, how are you doing, sir? Doing
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  Speaker 1: wonderfully well, brother, good to hear your voice and to
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  Speaker 1: see your face well great, the same thing there, you
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  Speaker 1: know when I see your face board and you see
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  Speaker 1: my that's for sure. On TV, i'd say, uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know it was. There was a time when they when
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  Speaker 1: they when they when your church reopened and members were
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  Speaker 1: allowed back into the church. I I saw you on
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  Speaker 1: every channel and that wasn't and that was a blessing
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  Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know the journey that
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  Speaker 1: started in talk about and some of the trials and
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  Speaker 1: you have to say that you went through to overcome
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  Speaker 1: and question your faith people. You have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: the health. The black community was affected the worst or
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  Speaker 1: people a brown skin tone. So talk about that two now.
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  Speaker 1: And the reopening the church. Uh, it was COVID was
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  Speaker 1: the best thing I think that ever happened to the church, sir,
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  Speaker 1: because it made us move outside of the four walls.
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  Speaker 1: Have you studied the life of Jesus of what he
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  Speaker 1: did was outside of the church, But the contemporary model
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  Speaker 1: of what churches do is inside uh, and so we
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  Speaker 1: had to reexamine what does church mean? Is it four walls,
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  Speaker 1: is it a steeple as a state, glass windows, is
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  Speaker 1: it a hamm and organ or is its service to
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  Speaker 1: the community? And so as a consequence, the church never closed.
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  Speaker 1: The building did. And so since today, Rashan, you ought
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  Speaker 1: to know that we fed over eight hundred thousand people
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  Speaker 1: confronting food insecurity. UH, in the midst of the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: We were able to give disaster relief to people in Mississippi,
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  Speaker 1: Louisiana and to Texas in the midst of the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: Since two thousand twenty, UH, over three thousand people joined
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  Speaker 1: our church online, never getting the right hand of fellowship. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: What it's interesting to know is that culture changes every
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  Speaker 1: four years, but Black church culture changes every twenty. So
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  Speaker 1: the average church is fifteen years behind schedule. So a
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  Speaker 1: lot of churches didn't make it. Why because they were
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  Speaker 1: not technologically savvy. They didn't know how to do online
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  Speaker 1: given right, and they didn't know how to have a
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  Speaker 1: hybrid approach of being high tech and high touch. We
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  Speaker 1: mastered all of those in the grace of God and
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  Speaker 1: was able to excel and that's it's really good that
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  Speaker 1: you're saying that, because as an African American community, were
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  Speaker 1: always you know, we got we got the cell phone,
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  Speaker 1: or do we understand the technology? You know, as a
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  Speaker 1: person who has been in radio and TV and you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the big giants or whether it's uh, Apple, Google,
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  Speaker 1: they never look at the African American community for technical
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  Speaker 1: forward thought, for academic excellence, or for employment. What role
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  Speaker 1: is the church playing in that is for under your leadership.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to expect you to speak for every church,
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  Speaker 1: but I know your leadership, what role are you planning
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  Speaker 1: to advance the narrative of African Americans with technology? So
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  Speaker 1: we started the last summer doing something a little bit
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  Speaker 1: cutting edge. We canceled vacation Bible School and started doing
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  Speaker 1: code in class. Uh, so that our young people will
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  Speaker 1: be able to have some competitive foot in a global
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  Speaker 1: market and trade because you very well know most of
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  Speaker 1: our inner city public schools don't offer such And I
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  Speaker 1: think that part of the responsibility of the church is
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  Speaker 1: to not just advanced consumer wism, but to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that we are producers as well, which is really really important. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when they said this courtion over to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to ask you said when you arrived
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  Speaker 1: at new Birth, you walked into a massive death if
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  Speaker 1: something I didn't knowing it about. You know, because we
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  Speaker 1: look at the church. You know, you know people you
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  Speaker 1: have your who have you, people who joined the church,
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  Speaker 1: they donate and then then you but you walk into
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  Speaker 1: a debt situation. How did you manage to reduce the
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  Speaker 1: debt so quickly? Because was it through corporate donations? With
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  Speaker 1: it through the members of the church? And what plan
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  Speaker 1: did you put in place so it won't happen again?
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  Speaker 1: We have to understand I came a little after two
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  Speaker 1: and a half years after Bishop wrong died UH, and
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  Speaker 1: so they went through a deep membership in attendance and
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  Speaker 1: participation and in leadership. UH. And so as a consequence,
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  Speaker 1: I one let me say, we got no corporate donations,
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  Speaker 1: is that our modeled stewardship UH and increased the volume
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  Speaker 1: of trust that they are to have UH in the
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  Speaker 1: church and made sure that church was not just a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning experience but a Monday through Saturday Saturday interaction.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's a consequence begin to do aggressive I
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  Speaker 1: save things UH, investing UH and aggressive in UH A
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  Speaker 1: debt reduction, almost doubling up with our mortgage trainment was
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  Speaker 1: in order to get that done and then refinanced to
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  Speaker 1: take it out of the hands of an evangelical bank
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  Speaker 1: UH and do business with a black bank right here
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Citizens Trust. We'll be right back with more
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  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return
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  Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. What that
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  Speaker 1: we learned over the last I would tell you I've
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  Speaker 1: been an entrepreneur and publicly, I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: was always comfortable with letting people know I was a
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  Speaker 1: black owner, right, says George Floyd. You know Google has
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  Speaker 1: even made a request if you're black owners so they
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  Speaker 1: can put that in their directory. So with that transition
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  Speaker 1: and then they opening up New Black Wall Street, it's
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  Speaker 1: really is you know, you're you're at the forefront of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're you're you're talking to people with their
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  Speaker 1: struggles they uplift. How do you look at the new
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  Speaker 1: Black World Street and how does the church play that role?
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  Speaker 1: And beyond the church, the success stories that you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to put out there, I think the deficit of the
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  Speaker 1: Black Church in large measure is when the Black Church,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm speaking in generality speaking speaks about economics, we
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  Speaker 1: only do it in terms of asking people for their time,
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  Speaker 1: asking for ten percent, but never show people how to
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  Speaker 1: multiply the nightey and I think part and parcel of
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  Speaker 1: my responsibility as pastor is to talk about how do
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  Speaker 1: we manage our revenue. Dr King said before his demise
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  Speaker 1: that African Americans spending power made us the fourteenth wealthiest
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  Speaker 1: nation in the world at this point, where the eleventh
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  Speaker 1: wealthiest nation in the world, but we're not doing anything
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  Speaker 1: about it. In the Asian community here in America, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: their dollars circulates twenty three times before it leaves their
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  Speaker 1: hands in the Jewish community, seventeen times before it leaves
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  Speaker 1: their hands in the Caucasian community, twelve times before it
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  Speaker 1: leaves their hands. In the Black community, our check is
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  Speaker 1: cash just thirty minutes before we hand it over to
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  Speaker 1: somebody else. And so when we talk about economic development,
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  Speaker 1: it's got to be not just a campaign but a
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  Speaker 1: mind fright. And so to celebrate June tenth, I am
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  Speaker 1: challenging the community to open up one thousand accounts as
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  Speaker 1: Citizens Trust Bank. Eight six percent of people in our
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  Speaker 1: community don't own a diamond stock and so on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: I'm challenging our community and bringing in black brokerage firms
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  Speaker 1: for African Americans to a leave an inheritance and to
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  Speaker 1: know how to do investment. If we just have checking accounts,
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  Speaker 1: the banks don't look at us. To your original question
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  Speaker 1: about Black Wall Street, it was the brainchild of Mr
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  Speaker 1: Bill Allen and he told me about it, and I
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  Speaker 1: told him there's no way it will succeed if the
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  Speaker 1: Black Church is not interloped in the idea. Right, So
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  Speaker 1: I came and walked alongside them, made an agreement with
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  Speaker 1: them that of the one hundred businesses that are in
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  Speaker 1: Blackwall Street, ten percent of them have got to be
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  Speaker 1: business owners that come out of new birth to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we are really championing the call. My conviction,
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  Speaker 1: brother McDonald's, if I have ten thousand members, why are
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  Speaker 1: you struggling to sell your book? How come you don't
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  Speaker 1: have any clients? Because they're right there in the church.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to develop out on the ecosystem in order
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  Speaker 1: to thrust us to that model. Well, you know, but
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  Speaker 1: this first one of the main reasons why M fortunate
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  Speaker 1: on w c OK to do money Making Conversation master Class.
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  Speaker 1: It's about promoting dreamers, especially in the entrepreneurship and small
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  Speaker 1: business of the lane. Now when I look at you,
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  Speaker 1: your more horspit. HBCUs have been at the forefront of
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  Speaker 1: academic excellence forever, but only recently because of massive donations
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  Speaker 1: by individuals in the corporate world. Lead. Uh, how is that?
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  Speaker 1: Does that make you feel good? Dr Bryant? Or it
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  Speaker 1: makes you disappoint you that there's nothing there's ever been
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  Speaker 1: wrong with HBCUs. We just hadn't been recognized and given
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  Speaker 1: our due. I think, um that we in the HBC
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  Speaker 1: all but have understood our value without mainline accepted. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Hbc US graduate more Black doctor, more lawyers, more doctor degrees. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they are not predominantly white institutions with minimal support and
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  Speaker 1: financial backing. Is all inspiring Now that we have it,
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  Speaker 1: the sky is the limited. People now walk on the more. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that this is really just putting us
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  Speaker 1: in a greater place where I help y'all out with
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  Speaker 1: those status That here is the top of my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Fifth percent of the Black school teachers come from hbc
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  Speaker 1: US percent of the medical doctors and dentists come from
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  Speaker 1: hbc USED, seven of the judges and lawyers comes from HBCUs.
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  Speaker 1: Of the black members of conference comes from HBCUs. Of
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  Speaker 1: the STEM graduates come from hpc US. North Carolina A
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  Speaker 1: and T graduates more Black engineers than any engineering program
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  Speaker 1: in the country. Also, there are more generals in the
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  Speaker 1: army outside of West Point who are black, from Calming,
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  Speaker 1: from South Carolina State. Those are the stats that I
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  Speaker 1: that need to be out there, that I that I
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  Speaker 1: I need all of that seven me all. We'll see,
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  Speaker 1: We'll see. That's what. That's what. That's why we do
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  Speaker 1: this show, Dr Brian because it's about information. It's about
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  Speaker 1: inform from a knowledge. Thank you, and that and that
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  Speaker 1: that you know and the knowledge is you know is preaching.
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  Speaker 1: Now I can do this show. I could do a
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  Speaker 1: pre recorded show and and just go all by my business.
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  Speaker 1: But I've turned this show into a show where people
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  Speaker 1: can call in and then get somebody and your local
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  Speaker 1: giant to have you come on my show. It's part
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  Speaker 1: of the building of the brand, you know, to have
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  Speaker 1: the new Black Wall Street. Those archreneurs need to know
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  Speaker 1: they have a vocal home, right here where they can
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  Speaker 1: come and share their dreams and expand their brands. So,
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  Speaker 1: general relationship, what do you feel a black community that
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  Speaker 1: needs to understand about money? You talked about the stock market,
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  Speaker 1: because now I would tell anybody who's listening, when the
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  Speaker 1: stock market is down, that's when you want to buy.
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  Speaker 1: You want to buy when it's a bar. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want to buy when it's a bull. And so if
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  Speaker 1: what you're talking about bringing in that type of money,
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  Speaker 1: but that's a different type of money. But you had
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  Speaker 1: an incredible stat about how money doesn't stand in the
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  Speaker 1: black community's hands. So what do we really need to
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  Speaker 1: understand Because if you're gonna talk about money, you got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about credit, and credit and money tends to
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  Speaker 1: be a separate conversation in the black household. I often
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  Speaker 1: uh use this example, uh that I know by mcdowald,
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  Speaker 1: you can run across the fifty yard line with that
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  Speaker 1: is Black people are the only people in the world
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  Speaker 1: who have a housewarming party for an apartment, right, we
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  Speaker 1: don't really talk about homeownership. My father put to my
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  Speaker 1: sister and I on a plan when we got out
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  Speaker 1: of college, which was the ten ten eighty, which I
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  Speaker 1: still modeled to this day, which is saved temper cent
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  Speaker 1: tive temper cent live off for eight percent uh. And
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  Speaker 1: it has really helped us when you realize that the
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  Speaker 1: average African American lives at a hundred and ten percent
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  Speaker 1: of that income that we in debt trying to keep
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  Speaker 1: up with the jumps is a credit card that is
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  Speaker 1: through the roof. We can't have a whole different show
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  Speaker 1: about the swamp known. There are student loans uh, and
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  Speaker 1: so there's a whole lot of financial literacy that is
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  Speaker 1: so needed and necessary for us to be able to
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  Speaker 1: throw ove and get our footed. It sounds good at
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  Speaker 1: this level, but there are those who have the trenches
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  Speaker 1: who really don't have a basic understand that right what
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about the bull in the bay. They got
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  Speaker 1: no idea that we are not in the conversation about
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  Speaker 1: inflation and about how that's going to impact every area
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  Speaker 1: of our lives. But now it's a part apostle responsibility
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  Speaker 1: of the church to impart that knowledge and to share
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  Speaker 1: their wisdom. You know, it's really interesting when I hear
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  Speaker 1: you talk from here that financial literacy that's such a
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  Speaker 1: big words. It means so much, and sometimes you can
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  Speaker 1: lets people. They walk in the room and they walk out.
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  Speaker 1: Really didn't gain anything from the conversation. How can I
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  Speaker 1: help you know what the mission that you put in
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  Speaker 1: place in this city this is? You know, I have
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  Speaker 1: a certain skill, said, I have a have a show
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  Speaker 1: to be the move forward the narrative. But it's about job.
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  Speaker 1: It's about economic development, It's about money and getting the
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  Speaker 1: right jobs in place. How can a person like ru
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  Speaker 1: Shan McDonald my show can help the cause and move
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  Speaker 1: the needle? Cry loud and spare not Uh, you're doing
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  Speaker 1: the dog on thing. We're so much about focus is
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  Speaker 1: on the entertainment and not on enlightenment. Uh. And so
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing just in this conversation is a revolutionary
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  Speaker 1: act in to itself. We like to say we like
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  Speaker 1: to dance, we like to dribble the ball. We don't
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  Speaker 1: like to sit down. The average African American post high
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  Speaker 1: school does not read a nonfiction book from cover to cover. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And so you are doing through this podcast, this is
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  Speaker 1: an audio book. You are giving information that they're not
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  Speaker 1: getting out of closed libraries on Google. Uh. And so
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  Speaker 1: I'm just appreciative. Are you staying on the back, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate it and thank you because, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, again, we'll be right back with more Money
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  Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, let's return to
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  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You said some
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  Speaker 1: great things are still I'm telling anybody my numbers available,
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  Speaker 1: my email address is available, This show is available. They
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  Speaker 1: got the people are young entrepreneurs down a new Black
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  Speaker 1: Wall Street. Let them know they can contact w C
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  Speaker 1: okay reach out to me. Because of the fact if
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  Speaker 1: if you, if your business don't have an avenue for
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  Speaker 1: people to know about it, then it leads to frustration,
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  Speaker 1: it leads to you, it leads you becoming the victim
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  Speaker 1: of saying your dream is an impossible task. And my
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, in my whole life, like I said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys too, from from nothing to something,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, the two bedroom shotgun house, six sisters,
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  Speaker 1: two brothers. My father had the third grade education, truck driver,
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  Speaker 1: my mama graduated my high school. And so I know
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  Speaker 1: what you have to do, and you have to follow dream,
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  Speaker 1: but all you have to have mentors and people who
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  Speaker 1: believe in you. That role. I think that's what you
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  Speaker 1: plan as a church leader, correct, I'm endeavoring to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that we've got to one dissolve the old
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  Speaker 1: school notion that the pastor knows everything is then we've
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  Speaker 1: got to have circular leadership and not singular leadership. So
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  Speaker 1: you need people who can educate us not just on finances,
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  Speaker 1: who can educate us on the law, who can help
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  Speaker 1: us in civics class, who can help us in this
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  Speaker 1: whole right to vote quest. Where is the black community's
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  Speaker 1: voice on road versus way? Where are we in terms
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  Speaker 1: of gentrification, where are we with the underfunding of public education?
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  Speaker 1: All of those things. We've got to bring all the
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  Speaker 1: different seats to de take. And when you bring that
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  Speaker 1: to the table, that's all about the horizons and the
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  Speaker 1: new direct direction of new birth that you brought. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what is the future of new birth and what it
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  Speaker 1: what's the ultimate goal? If you advanced me that two
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  Speaker 1: years ago, I've rattled it off with a boozy and
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  Speaker 1: a silence. But I think that the church, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: is in pubid. Our voice is changing, Our skin has
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  Speaker 1: uh actnate uh. In the words of the old people,
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  Speaker 1: we started to smell like outside You're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: ask me that probably in another nine months, when the
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  Speaker 1: dust settles and we're able to see what this church
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  Speaker 1: look like. I'm doing something my grandparents would have died
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  Speaker 1: over July in August. I'm only doing in person church
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  Speaker 1: on first and third Sunday and completely virtual second and
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  Speaker 1: forth because our numbers really shot up in the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: So I gotta see is it really worth it to
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  Speaker 1: turn the lights on? Uh? Is the impact any different?
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm trying out a model that I'm not
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  Speaker 1: seen in a black, old white church. Uh So pray
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  Speaker 1: for rob? Uh So it nine months? Asked me again?
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, dr theres a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: praying for you, a lot of people praying for you.
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  Speaker 1: But I will get in live to help pray for you. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it is that it's about charisma,
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  Speaker 1: is about having a direction, being focused, because the church
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  Speaker 1: is always the basis. You know, you know, black people
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  Speaker 1: got faith, black people believe. Black people also can be misled.
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  Speaker 1: When I say that not a negative way, because it's
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  Speaker 1: about the information. If you know the right information, you misled.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we talk about economics, we talk about literacy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know it's a joke in the black
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  Speaker 1: community about putting their child's name on the light bill,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not a joke, that's real, and then their
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  Speaker 1: child's life is ruined and so. But but talk about
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  Speaker 1: your journey and the not in much detail or small
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  Speaker 1: detail about you know where you come from to this
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  Speaker 1: point and also the fact that you know your your
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  Speaker 1: your history in the church is not something that you
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  Speaker 1: start as part of the family's journey if you can't.
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  Speaker 1: I am originally from Boston, Massachusetts. I was raised in Baltimore, Maryland. UM.
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  Speaker 1: I failed the eleventh grade. After I failed the eleventh
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  Speaker 1: prade but McDonald, my parents sent me to live in Monrovia, Liberria,
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  Speaker 1: West Africa for a year. UH. For listeners who do
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  Speaker 1: not know, Liberria is the holy country in Africa that
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  Speaker 1: was formed by former slaves UH. And so I lived
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  Speaker 1: there for a year. I came back. I got a
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  Speaker 1: G E D UH and I'm the first person to
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  Speaker 1: go to more House with a G E D. I
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  Speaker 1: graduated from more House Political Science and International Studies and
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  Speaker 1: UH in tradition of HBCUs. A month before graduation, I
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  Speaker 1: was alerted that I didn't have enough classes. As an
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  Speaker 1: International Studies major, I needed to be proficient in a
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  Speaker 1: light which I wasn't is in a language. The only
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  Speaker 1: option was to do study abroad. I went through the
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  Speaker 1: list I saw to do study abroad. The only country
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  Speaker 1: I could go to with no language requirement for South Africa.
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  Speaker 1: I go to South Africa and by the luck of
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  Speaker 1: the draw, God's grace. Uh it is the year of
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  Speaker 1: the elections and I become Nelson Mandela's youth intern. While
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  Speaker 1: living there in South Africa, come back. I go to
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  Speaker 1: Duke University. And Duke University significant for me. I went
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  Speaker 1: there for a master's degree, but many years before I
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  Speaker 1: went to do my grandfather was a chef at Duke
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  Speaker 1: University when they didn't let black students there. While a
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  Speaker 1: student at Duke University, Quai and full May tempted me
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  Speaker 1: to be National Youth in College Director to end up
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  Speaker 1: A CP, and I boast the record of being the
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  Speaker 1: youngest youth directed the nup A CP I've had at
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  Speaker 1: that time. I came out of the n double a
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  Speaker 1: c P uh Rashdana, You're not gonna leave my story
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  Speaker 1: U with our national convention in Charlotte, North Carolina and
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  Speaker 1: uh quite see him for me has lngitis and asked
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  Speaker 1: me to give the national address to the N double
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  Speaker 1: A CP twenty eight years old. The next day, I'm
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  Speaker 1: on the cover of USA Today. Get off of the
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  Speaker 1: stage from giving that address, and I met at the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the stage, out of one and only did Gregory.
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  Speaker 1: Gregory grabs me and by my collar, throws me up
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  Speaker 1: against wall. It says to me, young man, you're out
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  Speaker 1: of order. That ain't word he used. He used the
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  Speaker 1: other word. Know what he's said. Word, You are out
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  Speaker 1: of order, he said. When I was growing up black people,
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  Speaker 1: when they were in trouble, We'll call on Jesus and
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  Speaker 1: the N double A c P. He said. You're a
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  Speaker 1: part of a generation that doesn't believe in either. You're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be a pastor by the McDonald long story showed.
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  Speaker 1: I walked out of there, and six months later I
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  Speaker 1: started my church in Baltimore, forty three members to ten fouls.
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  Speaker 1: Three years ago, God redirected my path to leave the
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  Speaker 1: church started to come here to Atlanta the pastor the
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  Speaker 1: Great New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. That's my story in
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  Speaker 1: a nutshell. We know the beauty of that story. And
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I want black people to hear it. I want people
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  Speaker 1: to hear this in general, is that you can't you
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  Speaker 1: can't achieve success by yourself. That's the number one thing
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  Speaker 1: you get away from this store. And then people have
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  Speaker 1: to see something in you and I give up on you.
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  Speaker 1: That's also in this store. And when when? And so
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  Speaker 1: that's that started with the parents. Parents didn't give up
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: on him. He failed, but they didn't see failure. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: then he accepted the challenge and rolls beyond it and
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  Speaker 1: and everywhere he went, somebody stepped in and moved him forward. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when those happened, when those moments happen, and you can
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  Speaker 1: correct me, Dr Bryant, and I think I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: same page with you. They pushed him to be unknown,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where a lot of people stop when they
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. Fear drops in and they stopped
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  Speaker 1: moving forward. And that is what's holding back our community
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  Speaker 1: because we want to know what's happening, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: always know what's happening when you're trying to achieve success.
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  Speaker 1: A success is tied to overcome the areknown and overcoming fear.
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  Speaker 1: And my correct sir, oh no, you more than correct
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  Speaker 1: and uh, everybody has a testimony. Uh. Let's Brown often says, UH,
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  Speaker 1: your revenue is in your reflection. What it is that
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  Speaker 1: you're able excuse me, what you're able to share, what
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  Speaker 1: you're able to disclose, I'm so sorry, and what it
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  Speaker 1: is that you have learned from uh? And so I'm grateful.
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  Speaker 1: So I UH as a consequence of my own journey.
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  Speaker 1: Like many churches, we give out scholarships, but I am
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  Speaker 1: intentional not just give scholarships to those who graduate topic
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  Speaker 1: of class, but those also who graduated bottom of the barrel, right, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: that they also need an opportunity and need a chance.
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  Speaker 1: And that's beauty in the progress of HBCUs again, who
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  Speaker 1: gave students who were not outstand that uh an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to thrive and shine. Uh and so young breath. Well,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing about to wrap up here is
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that I'm from Houston, Texas. So I've been celebrating June teenth,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you know, the State of Texas, in the State of
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  Speaker 1: Texas Holiday forever NASA National Holliday, and now it also
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  Speaker 1: lands on Father's Day, Okay, and black fathers have always
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  Speaker 1: been pushed aside or said we are we don't understand
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  Speaker 1: the value or we're not responsible for You're a black man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a black man. I know I can get I
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  Speaker 1: get hard when I hear I get upset when I
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  Speaker 1: hear that. Uh. And and knowing that Father's Day is
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  Speaker 1: coming up, what role or responsibility are you taking upon
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  Speaker 1: yourself to make sure that black men are being recognized
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  Speaker 1: for being strong father, strong parents, strong leaders in the
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  Speaker 1: community moving forward? Yeah, is that your health is your
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  Speaker 1: wealth r And so on Father's Day, we are doing
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  Speaker 1: free prostate cancer screenings for all of our brothers because
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: so many black men have been impacted by it. And
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the saying is our early prevention leads to secure and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: most black men don't go to the hospital till they
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: come through the emergency room. It is also June Team
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  Speaker 1: that we're setting up these economic portfolios for investment for
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: our people to be able to have some greater sense
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  Speaker 1: of what the strength of their dollar is. So in
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: those ways we're gonna affirm as well as trying to
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  Speaker 1: help fathers who want visitation who have been robbed of
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  Speaker 1: it to be able to get that through our partner
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  Speaker 1: with the courts is you know, as as we as
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the pandemic as as you said earlier, has been a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: health and economic crisis, and that's always been a blessing
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  Speaker 1: for the church. You know, as one we say, I'm
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: talking to one of the most influential religious leaders in
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  Speaker 1: the country, and you Dr Bryant as we as you
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  Speaker 1: call someone to the altar and someone's listening to this show,
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  Speaker 1: what is the final message you want them to receive
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  Speaker 1: so they can walk away with a clear understanding that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: they can be successful. They are walking and blessed shoes.
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  Speaker 1: They just need to acknowledge it and accept the responsibility
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  Speaker 1: of hard work. That the church to not over spiritualize.
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  Speaker 1: It is nothing more than a recycling center. We take
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that which has been discarded, that which has been thrown away,
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  Speaker 1: that which has imperfections, and helped turn it into something else.
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  Speaker 1: The essence of who they are remains the same, but
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  Speaker 1: the shape and the spirit of it is what it
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  Speaker 1: is that we change. So every Sunday I tell people
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  Speaker 1: you can come as you are, just be clear you
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  Speaker 1: won't stay as you are. My guests rose from leventh
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  Speaker 1: grade dropout to receive a g D, enrolled in Morehouse,
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  Speaker 1: first time pH d graduate of Duke, and now He
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  Speaker 1: is the senior pastor of New Birth Mission or Baptist Church.
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  Speaker 1: He's a leader and also an inspiration and I'm so
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  Speaker 1: fortunate to have him on show to share these words.
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  Speaker 1: Know this, whenever you have something, please come to Money
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  Speaker 1: Making Conversas Master Class. I'm a friend, advocate and a
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  Speaker 1: believer in what you're trying to do to the community.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. I'm appreciative. Thank you so much,
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  Speaker 1: and don't forget I'm coming back to tell you about
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  Speaker 1: the future of the church once I figure out what
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: it is. Well, I guess what you know something? It
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: would be quick then because you got technology on your side. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Dr Brian, thank you for coming on
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  Speaker 1: that show. If you want to here this interview, please
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  Speaker 1: I am your host. Thank you.