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TV Personality Duff Goldman talked about his new Discovery+ Original series "Duff's Happy Fun Bake Time" · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people on the Food Network,
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  Speaker 1: Channing any Chale deals with food. It's Duff Golden when
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  Speaker 1: he when his dream a rock starting wasn't playing paying
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  Speaker 1: the bills, like my dream of being a comedian wasn't
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  Speaker 1: paying the bill. He turned his pastry talents and found
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  Speaker 1: the Charm City Cakes in Baltimore, Maryland in two thousand two.
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  Speaker 1: He's an entrepreneur. His cakes are soldo on gold Belly
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  Speaker 1: and available nationwide do shipping, and you also can buy
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  Speaker 1: Duff cake mix. He re released his first kids cookbook,
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  Speaker 1: Super Good Baking for Kids, and in two thousand twenty
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  Speaker 1: one he became a proud paper which I love to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. It changes your life. I got the only
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  Speaker 1: daughter and changed my life. Duffs on the should to
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  Speaker 1: talk about his new Discovery Plus original series, Duff's Happy
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  Speaker 1: Fun Baked Time, premier April. Tune in night on Discovery Plus.
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  Speaker 1: Please working to Money Made Conversation. He's gonna make me smile.
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  Speaker 1: I know he is, Duff. How got you just marketing? All?
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  Speaker 1: You got the T shirt all? I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: kind of bull you got on your shirt that you're
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  Speaker 1: just doing it looking good? Man, I ain't proud proper.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that being a proud papa man. Oh man.
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  Speaker 1: So we have a daughter, and she is three months old,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like I feel like I finally have
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  Speaker 1: purposed in my life. There I understand now the reason
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  Speaker 1: why they put me on this earth. It was to
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  Speaker 1: be a daddy. I love it. I just love it.
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  Speaker 1: It's really amazing, you know, I know what I you know,
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  Speaker 1: fortunate to have a daughter, you know, and as well
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  Speaker 1: and just the the you know, it's it's just unconditional love,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And then and then you get through that
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  Speaker 1: part stuff where you know you you can't hurt them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even though they followed, they can't sit up
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  Speaker 1: because they don't have a spine yet strong enough to
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  Speaker 1: hold them up. And the whole processes is it really
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  Speaker 1: does give you a sense of purpose man, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not saying you don't have it, but it
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  Speaker 1: gives you a future. It becomes part of your what
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  Speaker 1: what you know, you have a purpose of planning this
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  Speaker 1: young child eighteen years all the years that you had
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  Speaker 1: in your head about your life. The people have talked
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  Speaker 1: about now as being transferred into this child. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: about it. Well, you know, if there's something about like
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  Speaker 1: raising a child, and then you think about like my
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  Speaker 1: own childhood and I'm like, Okay, what do I like
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  Speaker 1: about myself? And how do I foster that into her?
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  Speaker 1: And what what would I like to not have? Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's we all have things where we're critical
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  Speaker 1: of ourselves. And how do you when you're raising a child,
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  Speaker 1: like how do you make sure that you know they
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  Speaker 1: are equipped with the things that will help them through
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  Speaker 1: those problems better than you were when you know you
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  Speaker 1: were trying to figure that out and just trying to understand,
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  Speaker 1: like how do I articulate these things to my child
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  Speaker 1: as she's growing up? You know? Yeah, that's that's important
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you're you're moving your your industry. There's
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  Speaker 1: always been adult driven. It's not kind of moving in
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  Speaker 1: that direction of children. And I'm gonna tell you some
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  Speaker 1: I've watched the show we're gonna talk about, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna jump around a little bit because I'm talking really
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  Speaker 1: moving into the Dolf happy fun big time because they
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  Speaker 1: see me a bunch of clips on the show because
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  Speaker 1: it premiers, you know, this month, And so when I
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  Speaker 1: watched the clips, Oh, what audience are you? Let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you first, what audience are you shooting folks for
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  Speaker 1: the show? Let me ask you that first. So um,
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  Speaker 1: I really want everybody to watch it. I want kids
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  Speaker 1: to watch it. I want their parents to watch it
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  Speaker 1: with them. I wanted it to be like not just tolerable,
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  Speaker 1: but really enjoyable for adults, but I want people who
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  Speaker 1: don't have kids to watch it too. And my last
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  Speaker 1: cookbook was for kids, and I wrote that book especially,
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  Speaker 1: so if kids get it, they're gonna be stoked. If
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  Speaker 1: adults get it, they're going to be stoked too, because
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  Speaker 1: all the recipes are real. I tend to find that
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  Speaker 1: if I talk to kids an adults the same, Like
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  Speaker 1: like if I talk to the kids like adults, kids
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  Speaker 1: respond much better. You know, when you when you really
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  Speaker 1: kind of like slow it way down and really talked
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  Speaker 1: down kids too. Now they're like, I don't got time
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  Speaker 1: to that, you know. And so um, hopefully for dust
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  Speaker 1: Happy Fund big time. I hope everybody across the across
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  Speaker 1: the spectrum, was it high school kids, college kids, adults, kids, arrants, everybody. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a big hit with millennials
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  Speaker 1: because millennials are into that, you know, do it yourself.
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  Speaker 1: They they they're used to the podcast. They grew up
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  Speaker 1: on the video, the YouTube, so they used to watching
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  Speaker 1: stuff and being told what to do through a screen
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  Speaker 1: and also and tell some adult telling them what to do.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you watching the videos. One thing
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  Speaker 1: I did notice this it's really good, is that because
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  Speaker 1: you're moving kind of slow, you know, because because you're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with Jim Hanson characters around, you have to respond
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  Speaker 1: back to them. It really helped me. And I can
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  Speaker 1: bake and I can cook. But when I normally watch TV,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are so smooth, You're so fast, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you know you have to put pause, and really watching you,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to put them. You can almost follow
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  Speaker 1: you and bake it at the same time. Right, It's good,
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  Speaker 1: you know. One of the things that I try to
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  Speaker 1: do and we do it on Happy from Big Time too.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever I'm cooking on television, I always tell them leave
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  Speaker 1: the mistakes, and if I make a mistake, I want
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  Speaker 1: everybody to see it and then they can hear me
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  Speaker 1: talk myself through it. And that way, like when I'm learning,
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  Speaker 1: if I if I do something, I'm like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: messed this thing up. I need to think about my
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  Speaker 1: process and need to think about what I'm doing. I
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  Speaker 1: do it out loud, and I talked through my thought
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  Speaker 1: process and that way everybody at home understands how I'm
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  Speaker 1: thinking about that, and it goes it doesn't it becomes
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity. They're not a mistake anymore, and now everybody's
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  Speaker 1: learning good. Well, you know that that thought that was
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  Speaker 1: really important that I got that out to you, because
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  Speaker 1: you know videos of you know, you have these little
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  Speaker 1: quick videos on buzz and all BuzzFeed and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they moved so fast you have to pause, pause,
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  Speaker 1: pause pause watching your show. Are the clips that they
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  Speaker 1: sent to me of your show. I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: I could actually simultaneously do this as he as he
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  Speaker 1: doing it, and I'm adult. So that's why I asked
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  Speaker 1: you earlier, who are you really playing too? If you
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  Speaker 1: plan for kids, I think a lot of adults are
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  Speaker 1: gonna glob into you know, gonna watch this show because
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  Speaker 1: I can follow it and it's very important. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think so. I mean I really think that the
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  Speaker 1: tone of it, it's very funny. Uh. You know. My
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  Speaker 1: sort of biggest influences are like, I like everything A certists,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, money, pithon kids in the hall of
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  Speaker 1: things like that. Um, I love Pewee's Playhouse growing up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that was another sort of big influence, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I just you know, just Pewee's, you know, Paul Rubins,
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  Speaker 1: just imagination, it's just through the roof. I just love
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  Speaker 1: the way you think. And so, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of those kind of influences really went into the show.
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  Speaker 1: And when you watch it, there's some really absurd, silly
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  Speaker 1: fun stuff like there's, um, there are six eggs in
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  Speaker 1: the refrigerator that are puppets. Each one of them is
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  Speaker 1: a different grandmother and so any anytime I opened the fridge,
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  Speaker 1: all the grandmother's you know, they kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: yell at me. And it's really funny. It's really really Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well you gotta start. Let's talk about these characters. You
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  Speaker 1: got cous Cous, Dizzy Eggers, later, Dragon Oven and your
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  Speaker 1: boy Jeff. So let's talk about it, like let's Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about each one of those characters because off air,
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  Speaker 1: and I gotta bring it on the air. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you. It reminded me of
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  Speaker 1: watching a Great Cooking version of h Mr Rodgers Neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: It reminded me of Captain Kangaroo and you know, so
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  Speaker 1: it was refreshing watching this show. But I also know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a risk too, because people can come
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  Speaker 1: across as silly and can come what is he doing?
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  Speaker 1: He looks crazy, but it really comes across as entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: And you have a really good sense of humor and
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  Speaker 1: and perfect comic timing, perfect comic timing, thank you. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I grew up listening to like comedic records.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my parents had a lot of comedy on
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  Speaker 1: records that he used to listen to him over and
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  Speaker 1: over again. And I think I developed like comedic time
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  Speaker 1: and relatively early without even thinking about it. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: like all the characters there, let's start with Jeff. So,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff is my real life uh you know, a partner
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  Speaker 1: chef de cuisine. I mean, he's been my sux chef
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  Speaker 1: since you know, almost day one. Um, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: started a charge to the case in two thousand to
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  Speaker 1: just started working for me in two thousand three, and
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  Speaker 1: we've known each other since college, you know, I mean
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  Speaker 1: we've been friends forever. And um, so, Jeff is also
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  Speaker 1: a musicians. When I'm a musician, A lot of the
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  Speaker 1: people when we started charging to the cakes. It was
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  Speaker 1: all my friends who were in band who needed a job,
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  Speaker 1: and so we started this bakery so we could all work.
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  Speaker 1: And so um, Jeff is in in happy fun daytime.
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  Speaker 1: He's the purveyor. So whenever I need ingredients, flower but
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, Jeff shows up and brings it to me.
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  Speaker 1: But Jeff is also an amazing singer songwriter, So every
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  Speaker 1: time Jeff comes and drops off the groceries, he pulls
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  Speaker 1: out a guitar or ukulele or something and he sings
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  Speaker 1: a song about whatever it is that we're doing in
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen. And it was just kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: back to all these are all these puppets that are
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  Speaker 1: powered by Jim Hidson's genius, his brand genius. And now
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  Speaker 1: you duff okay, did the idea come to you or
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  Speaker 1: did you pitch the idea to them? And then let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about these characters that were developed around you while
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  Speaker 1: you're doing these cooking sessions and baking sessions. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: I was in my apartment and I was baking, and
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  Speaker 1: I was watching Tesume Streets. Um. I watched a lot
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  Speaker 1: of kids shows like just I really do enjoy them,
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  Speaker 1: like not just as research or anything. I just I
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  Speaker 1: like watching testhme Street it's fantastic show. And so I
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  Speaker 1: was baking and watching TV and baking, and I'm like
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  Speaker 1: looking at it and I was like, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: would be a really good idea, right baking and you know,
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  Speaker 1: having puppets and like being able to do all like
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  Speaker 1: the really conceptual, beautiful artwork that that they did on
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  Speaker 1: Sesame Street. So I wrote basically like a like I
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  Speaker 1: wrote the first episode right my wife and created these characters,
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  Speaker 1: and we kind of came up with like how we're
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  Speaker 1: explaining the science of how an egg works. And then um,
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  Speaker 1: I wrote this whole thing, and I brought it to
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  Speaker 1: Jim Henson, the Jim Henson Company, and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: here's my idea, and I kind of like act it
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  Speaker 1: out the whole show, and uh, they were like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna we want to make that. And then we
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  Speaker 1: brought the Food Network and we brought to Discovery and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, hey, I got this idea. It's not like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's no scripted television on Food Network or
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  Speaker 1: really on any Discovery. And I was like, I really
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  Speaker 1: want to do this show. I think it's great, and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, we do two, let's make it. I'm like
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  Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Yeah, like you understand how this business works,
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  Speaker 1: like the fact that something this different and kind of
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  Speaker 1: you know, just like there's not really a model for
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  Speaker 1: what we did. The fact that something like this got
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  Speaker 1: made is I mean, it's a million of one. And
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  Speaker 1: you know that'sion because you know, it was like it
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  Speaker 1: was on what we slopped is on the cook Cooking channel,
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  Speaker 1: where we slopped this on the Food Network, but in streaming,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's everything is a category and your and
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  Speaker 1: your brand. So they go, well, this is a duff
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  Speaker 1: new show. And I just love the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, you said Sesame Street. And the reason I
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  Speaker 1: I went with Captain Kangaroo and I went with you know,
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  Speaker 1: Mr Rogers neighborhood is because there was an individuals and
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  Speaker 1: individuals and I was just saying, it's just me just
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  Speaker 1: talking about your talent and you're just acharismatic, fun entertaining guy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and we're gonna talk about charm City in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. Because the fact that that evolved around just
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  Speaker 1: just just individuals who just thought out of the box
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  Speaker 1: and the kitchen is amazing to me. But that's why
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  Speaker 1: I thought that it was special because you know, every
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  Speaker 1: every era, every twenty years, you know, there's a new
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  Speaker 1: individual that comes along that just really separates themselves in
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  Speaker 1: that educational platform. Because this is what this really is.
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  Speaker 1: It's education for the young people to make them understand
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  Speaker 1: and be safe in the kitchen because you teach all
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  Speaker 1: those tips and you have all these devices that the
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  Speaker 1: other talks and and all these things, and the robots
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  Speaker 1: sitting right next to you with the big eyeballs and
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  Speaker 1: all these different things. And later, you know, just slow movies,
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  Speaker 1: Sloth is over there just just hanging off on you.
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  Speaker 1: That that really and and it helps me out. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that because you're a new father now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is even more exciting because of the fact that
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna repeat, repeat, repeat, and your child's gonna grow
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  Speaker 1: up on this and you're gonna have a whole new
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  Speaker 1: army of bakers and cooks because of you do. I
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  Speaker 1: love it. I love it. I love it. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's nice like so with all the other characters.
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  Speaker 1: So couscous is my sous chef, and she is Custos
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  Speaker 1: is really in charge of the kids, and she is
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  Speaker 1: a robot that I made out of old kitchen part
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  Speaker 1: and she kind of keeps the rest of it to
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  Speaker 1: mind because everybody else is a little crazy, including me. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So there is uh, there's a there's a blue crab
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  Speaker 1: from you know, chest Peak day. You know, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to give a little nod to Baltimore. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: blue crab who's real crabby and another wordle not to Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Edgar, after Edgar A. Poe who was
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  Speaker 1: born in Baltimore. Um. And then let's see there's Slater,
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  Speaker 1: who's kind of like the slacker sloth who lives in
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  Speaker 1: the ceiling and he kind of comes down every once
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  Speaker 1: in a while. And yeah, the nice thing about Slater
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: is that he's the one that's asking a lot of questions. Right,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: He'll be like, why are you doing that? What's going
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: on here? Why are we going to stick that thing
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: in the mixture? You know, he's always asking questions. And
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: so by asking questions, he gets me to to you know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: sort of like you know, save the things that are
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: really kind of the meat, you know of like, well,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: let me show you how eggs work. Let me show
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: you how the gluten in flower makes pasta chewy. You know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: things like that. Um. There's also our oven is a
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: dragon and he based everything in his mouth. So when
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: we need to bake something, he gives a big roar
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: and steam comes out. We put the food in his mouth,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: he closes it, he based it, and when we pull
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: it back out, I love that do the beauty of um.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: The mixer is I was looking at my mixer and
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you need a mixer. And I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: was kind of thinking of Cherry from t We's Playhouse
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Big Chair that talks trying to think of like what's like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: what does mixture like look like? And I just thought,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you know what if there was an election, right like
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: you know you can kind of see big years and
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: then she would mix her and she mixes everything with
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: her trunk. Right. Yeah. If you said this guy is
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: really to engage with this show, but I am because
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about what you're doing. Because first of all,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of hard work because the scripted and
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: so a lot of so you you pitched the idea
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that really, unlike the other shows you've done, which is
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: natural talent and prov you have a script that you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: have to memorize and because when you throw a joke,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: somebody got respond to the joke. How much work was
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: that was involved in the in the in the table, reason,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the scripted of this stuff and you stand on um, man,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I gotta say it's it was very uncomfortable, you know
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I really had to like, Wow,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I have to say a thing that I have to
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  Speaker 1: I have to I actually have to know what's about
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to come out of my mouth because like usually it's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: just you know, it's just coming out. Like now I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: have like a specific thing that I have to say.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not good at that, you know. And when it's funny,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: when I first pitched the show to to Jim Hinson Company,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I assume that somebody would be playing the head banker
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that you know, the person, and they're like, no, no, no,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it's got to be you. And I was like, I'm
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: not an actor, you know, like I'm a tate decorator,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Like it has to be you. And I was like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot, you know. Um and uh
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: so you know we did. But it was it was
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it was really difficult. But it was also because the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: puppeteers are so amazing. They kind of remember like these
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: are the best of the best in this industry. I mean,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: these guys like they were, um, you know, wanted the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: puppet lead on dust Topping Fund Baking punt was also
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Augre in the Dark Crystal, and when I found that out,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I had like kind of like I got like a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: little star struck, you know, because I mean I just
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the puppeteers that were on the show was just really
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: really good. And one of the things that they're great
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: at improv And you know, I am a total knubie.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I've never acted. This is the first time I've had
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: a learned lines and like, you know, interact with I've
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: never worked with puppets before. I mean, this was all
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: new to me. But they were so good at what
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they do. They could take somebody that had never been
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: seen any of this world, you know, any of it,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and they brought me in and just they made me good.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: You know, it was magic. You know. The thing about
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: it is that, first of all, I'm excited for you.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You were your great man, uh, I love you. But
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: it all started somewhere and then all start with with
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: a like a mad House genius. I'm gonna use that word.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: The Madhouse Gees and two thousand two at Chalm City cakes.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Can you at least tell my listeners and viewers how
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: did that come about? And then how did TV discover you? So? Um,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I was I graduated culinary school in ninety seven, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I was working in hotels and restaurants and I was
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I was basically just driving around the country and kind
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: of bumming and and you know, doing different things, just
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: trying things out. I didn't really know what I wanted
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to do. I knew I wanted to cook, but I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't sure, like you, I want to be a pastry
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: chef at the hotel? Did I want to work in
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a bakery? Did I want to own a bakery? And
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: then I want to work in a cake shop for
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a restaurant. They want to be the pastry chef in
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a five star you know, a really crazy place. I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: didn't know where I sit and um, eventually I got
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: back to Baltimore. Um, and I was working as a
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: personal chef for a family. Uh, and they had four kids,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I was really good with
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the kids. So that was kind of where I first realized,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: was like I don't know why, but for some reason,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: it's like responsibly. But then, um, I kind of wanted
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to put my cooking career on hold because I'm awesome
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: musician and I wanted to see a fact could actually
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: make it as a working, you know, musician in a
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: rock band. So I quit my job and I started
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: making fakes in my apartment so I could play the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: rent while I was becoming you know, a big famous
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: rock star. And so, uh, I'm still I'm still a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: waiting for that to happen. When um so, I was
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: just making cakes to my apartment and like, Baltimore is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: not a big city, right, It's a you know, medium
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: size city. And so when somebody who's like in their
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: early twenties, covered in tattoos, who's inter rock band, is
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: making you know, really beautiful wedding cakes, like people talk
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: about it. They're like, well, that's weird. And then I
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: started getting more business to people start realizing like, oh,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: this guy is actually good at what he does. And then,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: um So, then I hired my friend Jeff, and then
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I hired a bunch of other of my friends. Um
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: some of them were going to art school in Baltimore,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: but they're all friends from the kind of the music
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and art community of Baltimore is very very sight community.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Um well, then we got a call from Food Network.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: They wanted us to be to compete on one of
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the competition shows, and so Jeff and I were like, yeah, sure,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: let's do it. And so we went and we competed,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, we failed, Like you know, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: think we're at like third or fourth place, like did
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: not make a big splash as far as like our
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: cake decorating skills go. But we were really funny, so like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you know, we're just we kind of have like a
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: very natural banter. We've known each other forever and um,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you know, so he's kind of like the straight man
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: on the kind of wild man. And they liked this, like, hey,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: do you want to compete, you know, on another one?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, we didn't win, and they're like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You guys are great, you're funny. So
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they kept having us on even though we never went right,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: we never won, We weren't even like you know, the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: top three, like we're always you know, kind of flook
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: around the middle. A couple of times, we were all
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the way at the bottom, like our cakes could fall
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: apart to catch on fire and stuff. But they're like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you got the great TV so then they came. They
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: wanted to shoot some b roll, So in TV b
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: rolls like the kind of like the footage that somebody
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: talks over and so if you're seeing a you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a city skate, but you hear somebody's voice, that's b roll, right,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So they wanted to get some b roll in the bakery.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And so when they came to the bakery, everybody in
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: there was either in like a rock band or was
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: going to art school. So everybody was very unique, right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: A lot of tattoos, had a weird color hair, a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: lot of you know, people just dressed weird, like we're
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just you know, a bunch of weirdo. And so they
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: were like filling. They're like, oh, there's a whole bunch
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: of you guys. You know we should we should do
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a show in your bakery because we've never seen anything
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like this. There's a bunch of weird art kids with
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you know, power tools on the wall making insane cakes.
• 23:59
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  Speaker 1: in the culin area, in that world that I aspired to.
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  Speaker 1: You said you want to be a rock star. I
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