Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Zelda's Mother - TPR's In Focus - March 26, 2026
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- 0:00Support comes from the Janice Hawkins Cultural Arts Park
- 0:03on the main campus of Troy University,
- 0:06featuring the International Arts Center,
- 0:09the Fred Nall Hollis Museum,
- 0:11and the Who About You gallery.
- 0:14More information at troy.edu slash arts park.
- 0:18♪
- 0:20From Troy Public Radio, this is In Focus,
- 0:24and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:26In honor of Women's History Month,
- 0:29we bring you part two of the early life story
- 0:33of Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald,
- 0:35wife of novelist F. Scott Fitzgerald.
- 0:38Tisha Rhodes, Executive Director
- 0:40of the Montgomery County Historical Society,
- 0:44joins us from the Fye Pickett House.
- 0:48Tisha, welcome back.
- 0:50Thank you for having me.
- 0:51Tisha, the Montgomery County Historical Society
- 0:55has a landmark exhibit.
- 0:57Can you get the listeners up to date?
- 0:59Yes.
- 1:01Our current exhibit is called Zelda's Muses,
- 1:03the Women of Montgomery,
- 1:05and it features Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald
- 1:10and women that were both mentors and muses in her life
- 1:17and inspired her to believe that she could accomplish
- 1:23the many things that she did.
- 1:25And that began with her mother, Minnie Sayre.
- 1:29It includes her three sisters,
- 1:31along with Marie Bankhead Owen,
- 1:34who was the first woman in our country
- 1:37to run a state archives.
- 1:39Her niece, Tallulah Bankhead, a famous actress,
- 1:43Margaret Booth, who ran an incredible all-girls school
- 1:47here in Montgomery,
- 1:49and then two writers that came out of her school,
- 1:52along with Ann Wilson-Golthway,
- 1:54who grew up here in Montgomery,
- 1:56went to school in New York,
- 1:58went on to Paris,
- 1:59and then became a renowned artist
- 2:03whose work hangs in many major museums in our country.
- 2:07And Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald herself was an artist.
- 2:10You're very familiar with her art background.
- 2:13And she was a writer married to F. Scott Fitzgerald,
- 2:18who apparently was inspired by her own life.
- 2:22Yeah, Zelda does have such a fascinating story
- 2:26that starts here in Montgomery.
- 2:29She was the youngest of the Sayre children.
- 2:32She had three other sisters.
- 2:34Met F. Scott Fitzgerald here in Montgomery in 1918
- 2:38at a dance.
- 2:40And then they married in 1920 and traveled the world
- 2:44and moved back to Montgomery
- 2:47and lived here on Felder Avenue,
- 2:50where they worked on some of their literary pieces
- 2:53at the same time.
- 2:55This couple was known as the personification
- 2:58of the jazz age, shall we say?
- 3:01That's true.
- 3:02They were living during a really fun time in our country,
- 3:06but a difficult time too, with wars happening.
- 3:10And their life had these distinct highs and lows.
- 3:14Who knows if that was because of the time or personalities
- 3:20or what they were trying to achieve in life.
- 3:23They never actually divorced,
- 3:26but the relationship effectively ended in mid 1900s
- 3:32when Scott moved to Hollywood
- 3:33and Zelda was in a hospital in Asheville.
- 3:37And then some back and forth between Asheville
- 3:40and Montgomery.
- 3:41But it was both, I think, an exciting time
- 3:44and a challenging time.
- 3:46The Montgomery County Historical Society
- 3:49has zeroed in on the women who influenced Zelda.
- 3:54And today we want to talk about Minnie Sayre
- 3:57and the honeybees.
- 3:59Yeah, so we've got a Lunch and Learn
- 4:02that is free and open to the public
- 4:06on Wednesday, April the 8th from 1130 to one
- 4:10here at Phi Pickett House.
- 4:12And the subject is Minnie Buckner Macon Sayre,
- 4:17who was Zelda's mother and her co-founding
- 4:22of an organization called the Honeybees.
- 4:25Who were the Honeybees?
- 4:27It was a notable group of local figures
- 4:31and it included Alabama's second Poet Laureate,
- 4:37Kate Slaughter McKinney.
- 4:39This group was created in 1903.
- 4:42It endured for about three years
- 4:45and Kate did not become our state's Poet Laureate
- 4:49until 1931, but she was writing at the time
- 4:53and making a name for herself.
- 4:55It also included Rabbi A.J. Messing of Temple Bethor,
- 5:00the prominent architect, Frank Lockwood,
- 5:04composer and organist, John Proctor Mills,
- 5:08and Clifford Lanier, who was the younger brother
- 5:10of Sidney Lanier and the owner of the Exchange Hotel.
- 5:14Can you tell me more about Minnie, her mother?
- 5:17Yeah, so in Minnie's youth, she was a talented performer
- 5:23who gained recognition for her dramatic recitals
- 5:26and she aspired to a stage career.
- 5:29She chose to set that aside when she came to Montgomery
- 5:34at the age of 23 in 1883.
- 5:39She met her soon-to-be husband, Anthony Dickinson Sayre.
- 5:45They married here in Montgomery
- 5:47and Minnie had four daughters between 1885 and 1900,
- 5:52but she continued to write and publish stories and essays
- 5:57and then in 1903, she co-founded this notable literary
- 6:03and musical society called the Honeybees
- 6:07with these other inspirational people.
- 6:11How active were the Honeybees locally?
- 6:14They would meet monthly in one of the members' homes
- 6:20and they would present an original poem or short story,
- 6:25essay, maybe a musical composition,
- 6:29and they would critique each other's work.
- 6:32So they really were gathering as a group
- 6:35of arts-based people, sharing their skills and talents,
- 6:41then learning from one another.
- 6:43But their friendships endured for decades
- 6:46and they helped lay the groundwork
- 6:49for other organizations that would come,
- 6:52including the Press and Authors Club,
- 6:54which more than a century later continues to meet
- 6:57at the Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald Museum.
- 7:01How was Zelda influenced by her mother's activities?
- 7:04That her mother had the forethought,
- 7:09the courage, the creativity to take her own ideals
- 7:15and desires and form groups of people
- 7:19that she could be with to fulfill herself.
- 7:23And then Zelda got to be around these people.
- 7:27It gives energy, it gives you courage.
- 7:29It sounds like Minnie Sayre and the Honeybees
- 7:33were very influential in the arts.
- 7:36They really were doing incredible things here in Montgomery.
- 7:41And the result of their work can be seen today
- 7:46in the architecture of Frank Lockwood, which still stands.
- 7:50Kate Slaughter McKinney went on
- 7:52to become Alabama's second poet laureate.
- 7:56And Zelda and her paintings,
- 7:58the Press and Authors Club that still meets today.
- 8:02So there is an enduring and lasting legacy
- 8:05that these people left behind.
- 8:07Can you describe the exhibit?
- 8:10This exhibit is a collaboration
- 8:12with the Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald Museum,
- 8:15as well as the Dixie Art Colony Foundation.
- 8:19And it explores Zelda's Southern roots
- 8:22and these women that inspired her and surrounded her
- 8:27as muses, mentors, and mirrors
- 8:31that fueled her extraordinary spirit.
- 8:34Tisha, how can people register for the Lunch and Learn
- 8:38April 8th at the Fyde Pickett House in Montgomery?
- 8:42Our website is mchsal.org.
- 8:47You know, we prepare to have chairs and tables.
- 8:50So if people bring their lunches,
- 8:52they've got a place to sit.
- 8:53So Fyde Pickett House is 512 South Court,
- 8:57and there's plenty of parking behind our building.
- 9:01We have a lift if anybody has mobility issues.
- 9:06Easy access for this Lunch and Learn
- 9:10about Minnie Sayre and the Honeybees.
- 9:13Tisha, thanks so much for joining us today.
- 9:15Thank you so much.
- 9:17That was Tisha Rhodes, Executive Director
- 9:20of the Montgomery County Historical Society,
- 9:23joining us from the Fyde Pickett House.
- 9:26The Brown Bag Lunch and Learn will be held on April 8th,
- 9:31and more information can be found at the mchsal.org website.
- 9:38Thanks for joining us for In Focus,
- 9:40which is a podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
- 9:44I'm Carolyn Hutcheson,
- 9:46and this is listener-supported Troy Public Radio.