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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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Alright. Boxing B -Sides. It's just a two -piece.
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We are without our biscuit. Saul, how goes it,
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my man? It's going fantastic. Today, while we're
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recording, it's 420. So I know a lot of the people
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that are in the boxing community are lighting
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it up. It's going to be a light week, so they're
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going to be lighting it up. It is a light week.
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Find your pleasures where you can get them. Exactly.
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Have a nice day. Just chill. Maybe if you don't
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get fast food very often, this might be a good
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time to do it. Smoke a little bit. Maybe make
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the rounds, right? Because you want to get McDonald's
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fries because those are the best. And then maybe
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you want to check out Whataburger if you have
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that in your area for the burger. Or In -N -Out
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is fine, too. Yeah, we stand in and out over
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here. I'm sorry. I was about to throw a fucking
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fit over that. Well, we have both here where
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I'm at in Phoenix. And the problem is, it's not
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that in and out isn't good. It's that here, the
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lines are fucking ridiculous. Really? Yes. They're
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really, really long. And that is what makes it
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not worth it to me. Even though the food is good.
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It really is. But like, Whataburger and the lines
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are... The lines in Whataburger are quicker.
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The... Whataburger has different stuff on the
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menu. Where In -N -Out is a little bit more...
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You know... It's a simpler menu. So that's really
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it. What would you prefer, Leo? Burger for burger?
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Burger for burger. I'm probably going In -N -Out.
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I respect that. But if we're talking about just
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Whataburger versus In -N -Out, I'm going with
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Whataburger for fries. I cannot stand In -N -Out
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fries. They're fucking awful. I understand. I
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personally love In -N -Out fries. They're not
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for everyone. They're not for me. Yeah, to a
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certain extent. Because I like them how they're
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fresh, but I also don't like how unseasoned they
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are. Right. So I get salt and pepper. But to
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your earlier comment about McDonald's, too, I
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just had an epiphany the other day. It was almost
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like a religious awakening. What was that? Because
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before, I always, I always, like in boxing, I'm
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always a fan of the underdog story, especially
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with fast food. I eat some interesting choices.
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I like to partake in. Arby's from time to time,
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as well as Wienerschnitzel. And a couple years
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ago, all I had from this establishment was a
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chicken sandwich, and I liked it a lot. But this
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past week, I had a Burger King Whopper and fries.
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Interesting. Is this like a new sampling? Like
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you've never had one before? I haven't had one
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in over 10 years. Goodness gracious. And I'm
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going to say a really controversial thing, but
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I genuinely feel as if Burger King, at least
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the location I went to, maybe this is very biased
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because I know it might vary from location to
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location, but the location I went to for Burger
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King knocked it out the park. I genuinely feel
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as if Burger King is the best national fast food
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chain for burgers and fries. I'm not saying fast
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food in general. There's regional champions,
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but nationwide, to me, nationwide, the Whopper
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is the best burger you can get. I would say.
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Very tasty. Jack in the Box is technically not
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nationwide. Not anymore. McDonald's is nationwide.
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Technically, Carl's Jr. is nationwide. I think
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they go by Hardee's in different places. Yeah,
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they go by Hardee's on the East Coast, I believe.
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And then, what's another fast food burger? Wendy's,
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technically, right? I think Wendy's is nationwide,
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yeah. Wendy's on the East Coast, yeah, nationwide.
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Wendy's fucking downhill. By the way, best bang
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for your buck is Burger King. My opinion. That's
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the only thing I'll agree with Benjamin Netanyahu
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on. About Burger King? Unfortunately, he enjoyed
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it. Yeah, that guy loves Burger King for some
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reason. All right. Well. I guess I heard it on
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the Nook podcast. Well, I wasn't listening to
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it, but I just saw it on a meme that he likes
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Burger King, so. Well. Big, big BB. Big BB Netanyahu.
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Broken clocks, I guess. Man, well, that's the
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420 talk. That's a little bit of fast food rankings.
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I would say, if you get the chance, Whataburger
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fries are fucking elite. I would say, I would
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put them in a comparable tier. Like, it's a close
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second to McDonald's. As far as fries go. So
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if you're in the area where you have access to
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one. I'll tell you this, my man. My opinion on
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fast food fries is weird. I genuinely think that
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Del Taco fries, I don't know if anybody else
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in the world knows what Del Taco is. They're
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not terrible. They get a bad rep. Yeah, Del Taco's
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fucking, like, their fries are amazing, dude.
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I'm personally a cream cut fan. I love cream
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cut fries. I've never heard of that. Yeah, that's
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a little interesting. I think Whataburger fries
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are crinkle as well or no? They're not crinkle,
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no. Oh, you said crinkle. I thought you said
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something else. I completely fucking biffed that
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one. No, you're good. We're just hungry now.
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uh let's get into some news here um nothing on
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the mma front but ultimate effing casuals for
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all your mma needs uh let's get the not so fun
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stuff out of the way the boxing survey I'm still
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interested to hear. We're getting close to 20
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respondents, and I'm not going to stop until
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I get fucking like 100 at least. BXNG .co slash
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survey. What do you think about the titles? How
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do you rate them individually, like five -star?
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What do you think about WBC, WBO, etc.? How do
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you rank them against each other? Like, which
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do you consider to be most prestigious? Or which
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do you consider most corrupt, even? All of these
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questions are laid out in the survey, so I'm
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interested to hear what you have to say. bxng
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.co slash survey And, last not -so -fun bit,
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the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act.
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We have still not heard, we have not seen this
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come to a vote in the Senate. I expect that there's
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going to be, they're going to hear arguments
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when it does come to a vote. Go to lvxmedia .net
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slash bsides. And when you go there, at the very
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top, there's a link that you can use to find
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the contact information for your senators. And
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I also include a blurb. On the page where. If
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you're not sure what to say. You can use my blurb.
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If you think you. If you want to take pieces
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out of it. Or you want to add stuff to it. Like
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whatever. Whatever it takes to get you in the
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fight. We cannot. Let Dana get away with this
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shit. We can't. He's going to UFC our boxing.
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And I'm not going to fucking let that happen.
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Not if there's anything I can do about it. Yeah,
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whether you believe it or not, you have a voice.
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Let it be heard. Yeah. As a boxing fan, we don't
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get much pull in this game. But this is the one
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time where you can actually save the sport. You
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can do something here. You really can. I know.
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I am casually acquainted with my senior senator.
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Mark Kelly, the former astronaut dude, I'm casually
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acquainted with the man. The junior senator,
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Ruben Gallego, I know this. I know him. I know
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for a fact because I've talked to them extensively
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on separate occasions, but nonetheless, user,
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like, not user, fuck, constituent letters, emails,
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and phone calls. I assure you that your senators
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listen to those things. Even if it's just like
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their staffer taking notes and delivering it
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to them. Nonetheless, they are going to hear
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that you have a problem with the Ali American
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Boxing Revival Act. And because you're voicing
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your opinion on such a really specific piece
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of legislation. It's going to carry some weight.
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You know what I mean? You're not just calling
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and saying, the fucking roads suck in Phoenix.
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Right. Yes, they pay attention to it, but that
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isn't an actionable item quite as much as saying,
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the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Rival Act, it
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does not deliver the changes that boxing needs,
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and it only makes it worse. So, with all that
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said, man, that's how you do it. LVXmedia .net
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slash b -sides. Get yourself connected. Do not
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sit this one out. Moving on. Edgar Berlenga and
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Richardson Hitchens signed with Zufa. And all
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that that implies. Saul, what are you thinking?
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What are you thinking about these two signings?
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I think it's a great move for Berlanga. Horrible
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move for Richard Hitchens. Why is it a good move
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for Berlanga? Well, because he's not going to
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be getting anything done in boxing and the usual
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empire. The preferred methods? Yeah, the preferred
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methods, yeah. He will never become a champion,
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and that's no disrespect to him. In the sense
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that... It's just the reality of the matter.
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Look at Berlingo compared to the rest of the
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division. Exactly, yeah. I don't want to say
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it, but he's kind of... He is. Bum Lenga, as
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we like to call him in Discord. Sorry. Yeah,
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we have coined the term Bum Lenga. Bum Lenga,
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that's what we call you, buddy. I'm sorry. And
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then for Richard Hitchens, I mean, again, not
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the most exciting fighter. but you were a champion
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and you're dropping that for a belt that has
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no history. And I'm going to be honest with you,
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people are not going to watch it. I can understand
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maybe someone like Ryo or maybe Boa Chuk or Obataya
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because, I mean, they're sellers in the sense
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that they can fight. They fight their ass off.
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They're not a technician. And again, of course,
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you know, we respect all. all aspects of the
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sport, 100%. But Richard Hitchens is not someone
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that a lot of people think of as prime time boxing.
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So I don't know. It's also not as good on the
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part of Zufa as well, but they're also getting
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people that, you know, as much as they can get
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from anybody anywhere. They're picking up another
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champion. And, of course, he's going to be vacating
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this title, the 140, IBF 140. He's going to be
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dropping that, and now he's moving up to 147.
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He was already, like, a pretty decent -sized
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140 guy, so, like, the move -up shouldn't be
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too bad as far as, like, how does his power carry
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up? Like, will his skill, stamina, all that shit,
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is that going to carry up with him? Probably
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yes. The only problem is that the Zufa stable
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at 147 is what? Connor Ben? But that also leaves
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Ryo as a viable possibility for moving up to
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147. Without having that 140 step in between.
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Like, man, what is Zufa going to do? Like, are
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they just going to throw up catchweights whenever
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the fuck they feel like? Like, Ryo's going to
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be moving up to 147 at some point in the future.
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So are they going to throw on a 142 fight? Just
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for fuck's sake? One thing I do want to point
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out, too, with this move, and I know you mentioned
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Conor Benn right now, it's very obvious this
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is a move by Keith Connolly. to move all his
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guys from Matchroom and beyond to Zufa. Is this
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the manager? I don't know. Yeah, it's Keith Connelly.
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He manages Christian Hitchens. He managed Edgar
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Belonga, Teofimo Lopez, I believe. No. Which
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I think Teofimo is going to go with Zufa. Not
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Teo. Yeah, Teo. And then he also managed Conor
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Benn. So I doubt you're going to see a Conor
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Benn -Christian Hitchens fight. But... I'm going
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to be honest, it does also seem a little likely,
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considering the fact that they also don't have
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a lot of talent at 147. Yeah, you're right. But
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I don't know. We'll see what happens to that.
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But the fact that Hitchens dropped IBF for Zufa
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to just, you know, again, he's a technician.
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He's not exciting. Not a lot of people are going
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to tune in for him. It's nerds like us that like
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Richardson Hitchens. Exactly. We appreciate what
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he can do, even if we don't necessarily like
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it. Man. Berlanga, on the other hand, I think
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you're right. I said this about Mark McSio. He's
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going to get steady work. They have a fair few
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dudes at 175. He's a decent enough name, so he's
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going to get the big media push. from Zufa. So,
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like, fucking get your bag, dog. Who can fault
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you for that? Hitchens is just like, it's a little
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bit more questionable just because he held, he
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was already a champion. So, like, why? Why would
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you, like, why? I don't know. I do know he was
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also not in good standing with Matrim as well,
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considering what he said his last show. And then,
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I just believe this is just, them just not, you
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know, get moving with the manager as well. Throwing
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tomatoes at Hitchens. Yeah. So I'm going to jump
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ahead on the docket here. Ryan Garcia versus
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Conor Benn negotiations are quote -unquote well
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underway for August. Now, Conor Benn recently
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re -signed with Zufa for a multi -year, multi
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-fight deal. How is this possible? How is it
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possible that Ryan Garcia... I sincerely doubt
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he's going to go to Zufa to hold a title fight
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for a belt that Zufa doesn't recognize. And they're
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not going to let Conor... Will they let Conor
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Benn go off to fight for a title that they don't
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recognize? I don't know, man. What do you make
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of it? Well, we just saw Conor Benn in a... Stinger.
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In a catchweight fight. And we'll talk about
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it soon. We saw him, yeah, exactly, in a Stanker
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fight with Regis Progray in a catchweight, which
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is already contradicting Zufa, what they want
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to do. And I doubt it also happens on a Zufa
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show because, again, this is Ryan Garcia. This
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is Golden Boy. Golden Boy has their beef with
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Zufa and with Dana White. So I don't think it's
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going to be placed on a Zufa card. I'm surprised
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it's even going to be Conor Benn in the first
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place. I understand it's going to be America
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versus Great Britain, but I feel like that fight's
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going to be a stinker, dude. That fight with
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Ryan. Ryan and Conor Benn? Yeah, I don't see
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it being too exciting. I feel like once Conor
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feels the power of Ryan, he's going to do the
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same thing as Bartosz, just back off the whole
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fight. until either Ryan knocks him out or they
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go to a UD. Boo. Boo this Ben. I don't see it
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going very well for him either. Yeah, we'll talk
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about him a little bit later. What else do we
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got? Ryan Rozicki and Chris Billum -Smith. Roziki
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is the WBC number one contender. They both signed
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multi -fight deals with Zufa. Pretty obvious
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this is getting Jai some opponents, right? It's
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just curious that they're picking off a contender
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for a major title. That's the only thing that
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really stands out to me about this move other
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than... getting guys for Jai. What do you think?
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Well, I believe the same thing you believe. They're
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just getting guys for Jai. I mean, Chris Billum
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-Smith and Ryan Rzycki, as much as we don't,
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you know, like the move to Zufa, that is the
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best possible move for them for money as well.
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Realistically, I mean, they're not going to be
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making that much money over in the general populace.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I'm just waffling these
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big ass words. I'm just trying to see how long
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I can throw these big ass words around to be
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silly. Nah, you're making them work. Nah, I'm
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just fucking around. I think Chris Bell Smith
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and Ryan moving to Zufa is a good career move,
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but again, they're moving to Zufa. And you're
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going to be used as cannon fodder for Jairo Pataya.
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If you want to do that, go ahead, but... I mean,
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you're not going to be building any legacy. So,
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Shanada has an interesting viewpoint that I wanted
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to share. And we were talking about it specifically
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in reference to these moves here, where Jai beats
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up these top contenders. Both of them are top
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contenders in the Cruiserweight division. Now,
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he's the Zufa Titleist. He beats these two guys.
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I was saying that it gives credibility to the
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Zufa Cruiserweight title. Shanada thought either
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the Zufa title matters or it doesn't. It doesn't
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matter what weight division. Like we say, IBF
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Champion. It doesn't matter what weight class.
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IBF champion fucking means something. So, where
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do you land on that divide? Can you say that
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again? Sorry. Yeah. So, we're talking about Jai
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Upataya as the Zufa cruiserweight champion, right?
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Jai Upataya. And we're... Zufa is signing Roziki.
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and CBS. Both of them are top -tier contenders
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in cruiserweight. Now, whenever we talk about
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world titles, if we say WBC or IBF, we know that
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those titles mean something. It doesn't matter
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what weight division you're at. But I was arguing...
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The cruiserweight title, Opitaya is giving it
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meaning. Even if the other weight divisions are
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ass, he is giving credibility to the cruiserweight
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division for Zufa. I see. I see. And you're giving
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them decent contenders, number one contenders.
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Yeah. To legitimize his champion status. Exactly.
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Yeah. I can see some merit in that idea. Of course,
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I mean, if they were to get someone like Julio
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Cesar Chavez Jr., obviously that's not going
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to be legitimizing Jao Pataya. And I can see
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that fight still happening to Zufa, obviously.
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That would be upsetting. But at the same time,
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as much as they try, they're never going to get
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that same amount of legacy that... The other
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belt holders have. I'll say that. Because, again,
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Jai is a great fighter. Or decent fighter. Great,
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decent, whatever. He's solid. He's good. I still
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need to see him tested against better opponents.
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Because I call a lot of fighters great. Scratch
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all that. Arm is fucking waffling again. Either
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way. Jao Pataya is living through an interesting
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point in the boxing history where creating stars
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is a lot harder. Creating a legacy is even harder
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as well. So for Jao Pataya, he's kind of starting
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at the bottom in Zufa. They're using him to create
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a legacy. The first Zufa champion. And getting
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guys from the regular side of boxing over here,
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I mean, again, you could beat them up, whatever,
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but is that really going to add to legacy? You
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know, who are they? They were never brought up
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in the Zufa world, you know? It wasn't like Jai
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has been holding the title for seven years and
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then some guy named Chris Bill Smith came up
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in the rankings and challenged Jai. To a fight.
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And he beat Jio Pataya. They're getting it from
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the regular side of boxing. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, I got you. I don't know if that's just
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waffling. No, no, no. I understand. All I'm saying
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is that there's no legacy in Zufa right now.
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They're just getting transplants. You know? They're
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getting transplants from the regular organization
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and bringing them over here. And they're not
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even that good. I guess they could beat him up
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and they're decent opponents, but as legacy builders,
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that's not going to happen. You need to build
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a guy from the ground up, which I feel like that
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might have more merit itself. They're going to
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try to get some guy from, you know, Team USA
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or from the Olympics, and they're going to build
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him up through Zufa. And that is going to be
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like a solid, credible opponent. solid critical
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opponent that they're going to have him beat
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Jao Pataya. By the time he fights Jao Pataya,
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he's going to be old. And he's going to be Zufa
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champion. I mean, I don't see anybody else beating
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Jao Pataya. At the moment. In the Zufa system.
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At the moment. Yeah, within the Zufa system.
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But you bring a guy up and he beats Jai and becomes
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the champion. Then at that point, you create
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a lineage. But they're not doing that. Again,
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you kind of see what I'm saying? They're not
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building them up. They're getting these people
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from boxing, from the regular set of boxing.
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And they're expecting that whatever prestige
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these guys already have, they're expecting it
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to carry over. But that's like the Zufa fucking
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mission statement, is that whatever prestige
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you had over there doesn't matter here. Exactly.
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So, yeah, you can't have it both ways. You don't
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get to have the WBC number one contender sign
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with your shit and then say he's the Zufa number
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one contender now. Exactly. And Max Kellerman
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famously says, oh, I never named the belt organizations.
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I just call them the belts. Well, what the fuck
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do these people, what's their... What's their
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value then? What do they matter? Exactly. What's
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their value? They're just names. They're random
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ass people for all we care. Right? But they are
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named because they're high in the rankings. Right?
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Which rankings? WBC? IPF? You know what I mean?
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But they don't want to say it, honestly. But,
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again, that's an interesting situation that Zufa's
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going to be finding themselves in. And they are
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finding themselves in. It's how do you create
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legacy? And I don't think they're going to be
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able to create a legacy, honestly. I don't think
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so either. They could try, but the current way
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they're doing it is not a good way. The thing
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is that Zufa, if they really, really want to
27:53
create a brand, create a legacy, they need to
27:56
start from the ground up. They can't just grab
27:58
guys from the regular side of boxing and put
28:01
them in a fucking warehouse in the mid -apex
28:03
with five people watching who are also part of
28:06
the Zufa brand. Right? You need to get these
28:09
guys from grassroots. You need to do what...
28:12
Oscar did when he first started Golden Boy. Get
28:15
clubs, get guys in club shows, have them win,
28:19
get them up in the rankings, and gain power.
28:23
Do that. Yeah, that's kind of what he's doing
28:26
right now. Rebuilding through the club system.
28:32
Exactly. With Zufa, they want to skip directly
28:35
to the end and be like, hey, this is legacy already.
28:39
You are the champion. You are the only guy to
28:41
be a champion. Like, no, that doesn't mean shit.
28:43
Because who is he beating to be champion? Zerto
28:46
is a unified champion, whereas you have one.
28:51
Exactly. So either his title matters or it doesn't.
28:57
All right. Exactly. You've helped talk me back
29:01
over to the Shinada side of thinking. One more
29:05
thing. I just want to add one more thing to point
29:07
out. I know we just said. uh job type of brandon
29:11
glenn for and like we said zerto fought cbs zerto
29:17
fought other guys at cruiserweight that are gulamirian
29:21
whatever the his name might actually matter to
29:24
people he was still a champ exactly whereas i
29:29
mean brandon glenn again he is a uh what's the
29:36
word He is very durable, but again, it's Brandon
29:41
Glanton. He's a glorified contender. Yeah, he's
29:44
a glorified contender, and Jai Bhai Upataya beat
29:46
him for the Zufa champion. If that's your first
29:50
Zufa champion, it's the guy that beat, again,
29:53
Brandon Glanton's from the regular set of boxing,
29:55
and he's not even considered highly ranked. And
29:59
Jai beat him, and now he's the Zufa champion.
30:02
You know, you see what I mean? Where's your legacy
30:04
at? One, you got a guy from regular boxing who's
30:07
not even good. And two, you beat him and now
30:09
you're champion. That's not a good look. And
30:13
he looked bad in the fight as well. That's my
30:16
piece. I'm just ranting, honestly. No, no, no.
30:18
You're laying it down. I want to add one more
30:24
point. Brandon Glanton was beaten by Chris Billum
30:28
-Smith before the Zufa move. So... Like, we're
30:36
talking about, like, as much as, like, Max likes
30:43
to, like, jerk himself off on the fucking broadcast,
30:46
like, the man who beat the man who beat the man,
30:49
like, okay, well, Brandon Glanton got his ass
30:52
beat by Chris Billum -Smith, who got his ass
30:55
beat by Zerda. So how much does this fucking
30:59
win of Jayo Pataya's really matter? Because he's
31:04
not the fucking lineal contender or whatever.
31:09
Just trying to mix words there to give Brandon
31:14
Glanton some semblance of credibility. Exactly.
31:19
Jai Obtai himself is a transplant from regular
31:21
boxing. Right. And he himself doesn't have much
31:25
legacy. He's built some amount of, you know,
31:28
of a resume, but he still has more to build.
31:32
And he hasn't fought no one near the top level
31:37
in ages, if really ever. So, yes, a Chris Bill
31:43
Smith fight will be good for his career. But,
31:46
again, you're not fighting the best guy. Now,
31:48
again, if you were to fight Zerto or if you were
31:50
to fight... I didn't want to say his damn name.
31:56
I didn't want to say his damn freaking name.
32:01
If you beat Vidal Riley, someone else. I'm sorry.
32:10
It's just a deep cut. Yeah, when you're talking
32:15
about cruiserweight, that's all it is, is deep
32:17
cuts. Mikaelian. You also have Mikaelian. You
32:20
also have freaking Battle Jack as well. But you
32:25
haven't beat any of these guys. You're sniping
32:27
Mikaelian's number one contender. That doesn't
32:32
make you Mikaelian. Exactly. You're not beating
32:35
Mikaelian. You're beating his contender. Yeah.
32:40
That's a little bit more time that I wanted to
32:42
get to these fucking cruiserweights over at Zufa.
32:46
One fun -ish note. The creator of Hajime no Ippo,
32:54
the boxing anime that just a lot of people who
32:58
get into boxing Probably started there. George
33:03
Morikawa. He got a WBC commemorative. Not commemorative.
33:10
It was a replica belt. That all of the fighters
33:15
on the Saturday, April 11th. Taiken card in Sumida
33:22
in Tokyo. They all signed it. Gave it to him
33:26
as he was leaving the hospital. So I thought
33:27
that was pretty nice. That's awesome. Last bit
33:37
of news. The Saudi Wealth Fund, the Sovereign
33:40
Wealth Fund, is backing off of Live Golf. Are
33:45
you familiar with the history of the Sovereign
33:47
Wealth Fund and what they've been doing from
33:49
Live Golf, the Saudi Super League for football?
33:54
Football. Yeah. I know they want to do flag football
33:58
as well, right? Really? I didn't know about that.
34:01
I think they pulled freaking Tom Brady out of
34:04
retirement to try to get... To play flag football?
34:07
Yeah. Honestly, it's only a matter of time. And
34:15
I don't know how to say it, but it's only a matter
34:17
of time before they pull out of boxing. Yeah,
34:19
that's kind of like what the whole topic is about,
34:22
is like how far down the chopping block are we?
34:26
Because I feel like... Boxing, relatively, compared
34:32
to the Live Golf Tournament, a Saudi Super Football
34:37
League where they have Ronaldo signed, or they
34:43
have Tom Brady in a flag football league, those
34:45
are a lot more expensive than boxing events.
34:51
100%. We're cheap. We're peanuts compared to
34:54
them. We really are. And honestly, one thing
34:58
that's kind of, I never expected this really,
35:02
but when Donald Trump, I hate to bring up politics,
35:10
having him bomb Iran created a butterfly effect.
35:15
Security situation for the Saudis. Exactly, which
35:19
made him realize, hey, we're not untouchable.
35:21
We need to invest more in our military. You know,
35:24
people are not going to come. to our country
35:26
if they're afraid that they're not going to be
35:29
safe. We need to protect ourselves. So it's going
35:33
to create a butterfly effect of the Saudis pulling
35:36
out of sports. We're starting to pull out of
35:38
sports. So far. At least this is what I've seen.
35:42
It seems to be that that's like a logical line
35:46
of events, I would say as well. And honestly,
35:53
it seems to be that the Saudis and I don't get
36:00
I don't give Turkey much credit on this podcast.
36:06
But what I do got to give him credit for is having
36:10
him get the the old gang back together. Having
36:14
all the promoters really start working together
36:18
to actually fight against. The machine. Yeah.
36:23
Fight against a foreign entity messing with the
36:28
sport. Whereas when they started at the bottom,
36:30
he just rammed himself in there. Obviously, we
36:34
know how the story went with them and the Saudis.
36:38
But it's good that they're actually starting
36:41
to work together. You see PBC guys on matchroom
36:44
shows. You see top -ranked guys on PBC shows.
36:49
I mean, it's starting to look like they're actually
36:54
going to get the shit together. Maybe just for
36:56
the time being until the Saudis kind of back
36:58
off. Yeah, when they pull out fully. Or whenever
37:02
or if ever Zufa fails. But for the time being,
37:08
it seems like boxing is going to be working very
37:13
well for the foreseeable future. And I got to
37:18
thank Turkey All Chic for that. Thank you. It
37:22
hurts for me to say it. No, yeah, I absolutely
37:25
understand. Both for helping them do that. Getting
37:30
the better players to play with each other just
37:35
to avoid you. Exactly. There is, now it's important
37:41
to point out, I don't have it listed here, but
37:44
the... There's going to be a, I'm not sure what
37:51
term you use, terrestrial, linear, over -the
37:55
-air television. That, you know, standard TV.
38:02
There's going to be a boxing series on TNT. It's
38:06
going to be called, I think it's called The Fight.
38:09
And what it is, is all of the promoters that
38:14
are on DAZN. put their best fights like inter
38:19
inter promotional fights end up on tnt is it
38:28
just gonna i don't know much about the details
38:30
but they're just gonna be on tnt exclusively
38:32
or they're gonna be also on the zone it's on
38:35
the zone as well okay it's interesting yeah tnt
38:42
is mainly a british Broadcaster or is that also...
38:46
I believe it's primarily American. Primarily
38:51
American? Yeah. I'm just curious. It's billed
38:58
as like the action network. TNT, Dynamite, Explosive.
39:03
So TNT is like the action network. It's kind
39:06
of like Spike TV, if you remember that. Is that
39:11
still around? No. Spike TV is dead. Interesting.
39:17
But DNT's been running strong. Yeah, it's connected
39:22
to the USA. Interesting. I wonder who owns that
39:28
one. I believe Warner Brothers Discovery owns
39:36
it. Isn't Warner Brothers going to get owned
39:40
by Paramount soon? I think so. And I think that's
39:45
how this got settled, is because Warner Brothers
39:50
found a home, so they were able to negotiate
39:54
this deal with DAZN. Interesting. Whatever gets
40:02
boxing back on, like, regular TV, I'm here for
40:07
it. Now we have people actually fighting on cable
40:12
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40:18
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All right. Into the recaps. First things first.
44:55
Thursday, April 9th. Eye of the Tiger. in Montreal.
45:00
Just one note to get out of the way. Arthur B.
45:04
Arslanov gets the stoppage in seven over Ximer
45:08
Espinosa. But the star of the show, Oslis Iglesias,
45:16
he fulfills his promise to his mother, becomes...
45:22
A world champion, he claims the IBF super middleweight
45:26
title by retiring Pavel Selyagin after the eighth.
45:32
Saul, is there a super middleweight active today
45:37
that can beat this man? A super middleweight
45:42
that's active? Right. Honestly? So far, I don't
45:48
see one. Probably not, man. I don't think so.
45:53
Because all the other 168 guys, they're all kind
45:57
of around the same level. And they ducked him.
45:59
They avoided this fight. They all ducked him.
46:02
The only one I could see maybe beating him would
46:05
be Lester. But the thing is, I know this sounds
46:12
crazy, but I feel like the only guy that would
46:14
be able to beat Oslaes is going to be a guy with
46:17
relentless pressure. Put him on the back foot.
46:21
Put him on the back foot because we have never
46:23
seen Osu on the back foot necessarily. He always
46:27
gets his way. Yeah, he always gets his way because
46:30
he hits too hard. So you need a guy that has
46:33
a good chin that will also hit hard and is also
46:37
going to be able to dodge punches. Get in on
46:40
the inside and fuck him up. So I think the only
46:44
guy that can do it is going to be Lester. I don't
46:47
see someone like... Shiraz doing it because he
46:50
ducked the fight. Canelo can do it because he's
46:53
too old. And Billy, he's very stationary in the
46:56
sense that he does not really move his head off
46:58
center line. I think he ducked the fight too.
47:01
And he ducked the fight as well. Diego Pacheco,
47:04
I don't even know how to explain that one. Disappointment.
47:08
Edgar Berlanga. Yeah, Edgar Berlanga's with Zufa.
47:11
Who else is at 168? Armando Resendiz. Munguia
47:16
ducked the fight too. Smartly enough, he ducked
47:18
the fight to get in a match with Armando Resendiz,
47:24
which is a lot easier. Much more winnable fight,
47:27
of course. Yeah, much more winnable fight. So
47:30
I see this as a good and bad thing that he's
47:35
a champion. Because one, he's a champion. He's
47:37
known now. They can't not mention him anymore.
47:41
Before they would not fucking... He was like
47:44
Voldemort. You don't speak his name. Exactly.
47:49
But now he's a champ. They have to mention him
47:53
when talking about other title holders. And honestly,
47:58
I still think he's going to get avoided. It's
48:02
one of those things that is high risk and low
48:06
reward. Even with a world title. on his waist,
48:11
he's still low reward. A world title is not enough
48:16
for someone to step in the ring with him. Exactly.
48:25
Let's see what happens with that. I have to point
48:27
out that Xander Zayas sought out the fight with
48:35
boots while holding the two belts on his waist.
48:40
He could, like, Oslis, it's not his fault. He's
48:44
going to be relegated to just defending against
48:47
dudes like Pavel over and over and over again.
48:52
And that's all he's ever going to accomplish.
48:55
And it's not his fault. He's so, so fucking talented.
48:59
But he's too talented. That's all I got. The
49:09
only time someone's going to fight him is for
49:11
Undisputed or if they want to unify. But there's
49:14
going to be easier champions to beat at that
49:16
weight class. I fear he's just not going to get
49:21
the admiration that people want him to have.
49:27
Honestly, I might get flagged for this. I might
49:31
get serious flagged for this, but Oslies would
49:34
actually be a good person to send to Zufa. I'm
49:39
not saying I would want him to go to Zufa, but
49:42
to have someone that's exciting and get him young,
49:47
I guess, you know? I doubt he's going to get
49:52
anybody in regular boxing, but at least in Zufa,
49:55
he might get more money for the time being. I'm
49:59
not supporting him if he were to go to Zufa.
50:01
I'm not saying that at all. All I'm saying is
50:04
that nobody's going to fight him at 168. He's
50:09
going to be avoided from here on out. Mbili...
50:15
We're going to assume that Hamza Shiraz beats
50:19
Alan Begich. Mbili, Resendiz, and Shiraz... Those
50:29
three are going to happily fight each other.
50:33
But... God, they're not going to go for Undisputed.
50:38
Hell no. No, man. I mean, Shiraz fucking dug
50:43
Jenebeck. He did, didn't he? He dug Jenebeck.
50:50
And arguably, Osis is a harder fight than Jenebeck.
50:57
Well, rather than just we sit here and agree
51:04
with each other over how... fucking excellent
51:08
that Iglesias is and how he's not going to get
51:10
the credit he deserves. Let's move on. Friday,
51:15
April 10th, really quickly, Hebert Contesau gets
51:21
the UD. It was certainly a fight. I'm trying
51:29
to remember who the other one was. Eh. Doesn't
51:37
matter. Saturday, April 11th, Pro Box TV at the
51:42
Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City. Vito Melnicki
51:48
gets a UD over Ulysses Huerta. Again, it was
51:55
certainly a fight. Classic Melnicki win. Yeah.
52:01
It was certainly a win. It was certainly a win.
52:04
You certainly boxed and you certainly punched
52:08
him. Moving on. Earlier that day in Tokyo, Japan,
52:17
we had taken... Did you catch this card? That
52:25
was... Estrada versus Tension. With Estrada and
52:28
Tension, yeah. No, unfortunately, I was not able
52:30
to catch it, but I've seen the highlights. It's
52:32
all right. Yeah. Estrada is showing his age,
52:37
and it pains me. Where's he at in the box of
52:45
laundry? Got to bring that up again. This is
52:50
definite proof he's in the hamper. He's just
52:55
going to get used up right now, and if he continues
53:00
to fight, take fights like this, he's going to
53:06
end up as a trapo really quickly. Yeah. Very
53:12
soon. I hope he calls it quits. I hope so, too.
53:21
He's had a pretty good career. Excellent. Yeah.
53:28
Last bit. Gold Star on Netflix. Let me go from
53:33
the bottom up just to get them out of the way.
53:38
Elliot Whale stops Tom Hill in four. Mikey Tallon
53:43
stops Christopher Rios in the first. Pavel August
53:48
points over Simon Zakenhuber. Felix Cash stops
53:54
Liam O 'Hare in the second. Justice Hooney, majority
53:58
decision over Frazier Clark. Fucking nice. Richard
54:07
Riekpore stops Jamie Chikeva in the fifth to
54:13
claim the British heavyweight title. So congrats
54:17
to Richard. This was honestly surprising. Probably
54:20
the best fight to the card. It was, yeah. Especially
54:24
for how short it was. Still had solid... In the
54:31
opening rounds, it had good back and forth. Yeah,
54:35
which, again, is not saying much, but, I mean,
54:37
that's also kind of the point of this card. Connor
54:40
Ben. Pooh D. No, that's not a UD. It's fucking
54:47
Pooh over Regis Progre. shit the program reveals
54:54
in the aftermath that all of the the injury rumors
54:59
were true and that he had a lot of lingering
55:02
issues coming into it connor ben to me this is
55:07
this outcome is solely an indictment on connor
55:14
ben how in the fuck were you not able to finish
55:17
that i gotta be honest this is probably I know
55:22
obviously he won the fight, but he lost. Fuck
55:25
yeah, he lost. He lost. He lost a lot of the
55:29
aura he had after the Eubank fight, fighting
55:33
Regis Progray. And again, he got 15 mil out of
55:36
it. But again, how do you not knock down a guy
55:40
that was put on skates by a featherweight in
55:44
Jojo Diaz? You know what I mean? How? Again,
55:50
you also had him on skates in the first round,
55:52
but you cruised to UD against the guy you should
55:56
have had out. This was his first fight at welterweight.
56:00
This was, you were going back to the welter,
56:04
in the area of the welterweight. You weren't
56:06
exactly welterweight, but you're going back down.
56:08
Did you lose power? Did Connor, what happened,
56:12
Connor? Do you not have power after the PED?
56:15
If you did take him, what happened? What's up?
56:20
You know, I genuinely can't believe that Conor
56:23
looked this bad. I think this is the worst case
56:27
scenario for this fight. He won, but... Again,
56:31
he could lose, but he won and he lost at the
56:36
same time. He didn't win any good will. Exactly,
56:39
yeah. This is the worst case scenario for a win.
56:41
I think it's a better way to put it. Because
56:43
he could have lost by knockout for some odd reason,
56:47
but... I mean, winning and not knocking out Regis
56:51
Progray, not even looking good against Regis
56:52
Progray. I mean, Regis had some amount of, you
56:57
know, like here and there, some showings. Yeah,
57:06
overall, I was not impressed with Conor Benn.
57:12
This was supposed to be like his big... Re -debut
57:18
to the world. Like, I'm done with the Chris Eubank
57:24
stuff, and I'm moving back down, back to my proper
57:27
natural weight, and you give us this. Hey, looking
57:35
good, champ. I'll tell you that. Yeah. And you
57:37
want to fight Ryan Garcia? Please. Again, if
57:43
you don't have pop, Ryan Garcia's going to knock
57:45
you out. Which, again, if you can knock out Regis
57:49
Progray, you might not have that much power.
57:53
If Devin Haney can put Regis Progray on skates,
57:57
we might have to rethink some things here, Connor.
58:02
Exactly. I mean, it's a little embarrassing,
58:07
to say the least. It's funny as heck because
58:10
Dana White loses money out of this. $15 million
58:14
for this? Are you serious? I mean, I understand
58:20
why Regis didn't say anything. Because there's
58:24
also the chance that if he did speak up that
58:25
he's injured, they would just call off the fight
58:27
and he would lose his payday. And he would lose
58:32
his time under the bright lights. You know? He
58:36
retired afterwards, so... Yeah, he's done. But,
58:43
uh... Yeah, that was horrendous. I'll tell you
58:47
that. Was this also horrendous? Tyson Fury sweeps
58:52
Arsalan Beck -Makhmudov. I was just not impressed
58:58
with this either. I don't know what the heck's
59:01
happening. Come on, Fury. Come on. Makhmudov
59:09
too. It was just a stinker. It was just a run
59:13
of the mill. fight for fury and what was even
59:16
more embarrassing is after the fight he goes
59:19
up and tries to get Anthony Joshua to get in
59:21
the ring with him and Joshua says no where's
59:25
the hype at the hype for that fight I don't know
59:31
AJ saying I'm the landlord um you like you figure
59:37
out your little scruples and then you come to
59:40
me That's what AJ said, anyway. I mean, AJ, in
59:50
reality, hasn't had a real fight. He hasn't won
59:54
a real fight since 2023. No, 2024. Sorry. Because
59:59
he fought in Ghanu in 2025. I believe, right?
1:00:04
I don't know if that counts. But yeah, 2025.
1:00:07
No. He lost to Dubois in 2025 as well. So he
1:00:11
hasn't won a real fight since 2023. Oh, no, 2024.
1:00:15
Sorry. Based on what we saw from Wilder, Chisora,
1:00:27
and then Fury, Makhmudov, I genuinely would rather
1:00:33
see AJ Wilder right now. Yeah. I'd want to see
1:00:43
any of them just to see it get over with at this
1:00:46
point. Yeah, finally. I've been getting teased
1:00:49
with these fights for too long. I don't care.
1:00:51
I just need to see them now. I mean, you can
1:00:55
fight Wilder first and then fight Fury. As your
1:00:59
warm -up fight? Yeah, I mean, he fought Jake
1:01:03
Paul. He beat Jake Paul. Come on, guys. It's
1:01:06
a good fight. Come on. Right? Right? Yeah, gotta
1:01:12
be. But there's news that Fury versus AJ is likely
1:01:22
happening in November. I believe that's once
1:01:25
AJ gets a warm -up. Yeah. Who is it going to
1:01:32
be, though? That's kind of the question. There
1:01:34
was suspicions of Arsalan Beck. fighting AJ as
1:01:40
well. Just to kind of do like a common opponent
1:01:43
kind of thing. Who else is there for AJ to fight?
1:01:49
Really? That's like a a credible warm up without
1:01:56
being too dangerous. Maybe Jermaine Frank. We
1:02:02
already fought Jermaine Frank. He already did.
1:02:04
I don't know. Maybe not Bacoli, because he's
1:02:10
got power. O 'Coli? Oh, he's busy. O 'Coli. Yeah.
1:02:14
And that's also AJ's friend. Yeah. Uh, Sanford
1:02:19
Safari. Uh, Riek Pory? He just fought on the
1:02:24
card, so, like, he might be ready. TKD. Ujasasuni.
1:02:28
There you go. That is actually not a bad shout.
1:02:34
That's not bad. If Frazier Clark had won, that
1:02:39
would have been a good one. There is a lot of
1:02:41
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1:02:44
I'm just a casual. Anything more for this Tyson
1:02:51
Fury card? Just a bunch of stinkers. Yeah. Just
1:02:57
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1:08:05
for this week. Let's see. Let's start with Thursday,
1:08:11
April 23rd. Bunch of bullshit on this card that
1:08:15
I don't care about. Jason Maloney versus Andre
1:08:18
Donovan. That is certainly a fight. Yeah. Great
1:08:25
fight, guys. Will I be waking up? Of course I
1:08:29
will be at one in the morning on a Thursday to
1:08:34
watch Jason Maloney. Yeah, I couldn't. Get myself
1:08:40
to finish that sentence. Yeah, it hurts. It hurts
1:08:43
to listen to that. I'm sorry. Primetime Fight
1:08:47
Night Volume 8 in Kolding, Denmark. Jacob Jakubbank,
1:08:54
pardon me, versus Paulinus Njolonimu. You guys
1:09:01
remember this guy? He beat the GOAT. He beat
1:09:03
William School. He schooled the school man. Great.
1:09:11
But because of that win, he has put himself into
1:09:18
the position of contender, top contender for
1:09:21
the WBO. So we'll have to keep an eye on him
1:09:26
to see what he does or how Shiraz is going to
1:09:30
handle this situation. That's pretty much it.
1:09:37
You probably will fight him. Probably. It's a
1:09:40
winnable fight. But that's what we do here. We
1:09:45
prep you. These are people that are coming up
1:09:50
that you should be paying attention to. Matchroom
1:09:54
on DAZN at the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas. On
1:10:00
the undercard, Nishant Dev. He's a solid prospect
1:10:03
at 154. So he's on this card, so that's worth
1:10:07
checking out. But the main event is Gerald Miller,
1:10:11
Mr. Hairpiece himself, versus Lanier Perrault.
1:10:16
That's about it. You got any puns in here, Leo?
1:10:19
No. No more puns for them? I cannot bring myself
1:10:25
to summon the brainpower for it. Let's not split
1:10:29
these hairs here. It's going to be a fight of
1:10:32
all time, I'll tell you that. Are you sure this
1:10:34
fight's not going to blow your top off? Oh, I
1:10:38
don't know. It might not. God damn, this weekend
1:10:45
is bad. Then they're going to wiggle this fight
1:10:47
out. I can't fucking do that one. I tried too
1:10:53
hard. It's all right. We tried our best to make
1:10:58
good of a pretty poor weekend. This is one of
1:11:03
those ones. If you have other plans, fucking
1:11:06
go out and do that. It's a better use of your
1:11:09
time. This is like a show where... Imagine like
1:11:14
this, okay? It's a TV show where the episode
1:11:17
prior to an all -time great episode, it's a slow
1:11:21
one. It's gonna be a slow weekend for an all
1:11:24
-time great weekend of boxing. Man, next weekend
1:11:27
is going to be so awesome. It's going to be packed.
1:11:30
You know what? Don't have to try to fucking stomach
1:11:35
and power through it. Just go out and do something
1:11:38
else, man. Next weekend is going to be sweet.
1:11:41
Just enjoy your freedom because next weekend
1:11:45
is grime time. You're going to be sitting in
1:11:48
your boxing chair from like 1 in the morning
1:11:51
until late in the evening. Just non -stop fucking
1:11:56
fights. Action -packed week. After week. After
1:12:01
week. Go enjoy time outside. Walk your dog. Take
1:12:07
an extra long walk with your dog. Fucking play
1:12:09
with your cats or your guinea pigs or whatever
1:12:13
the fuck pets you have. Enjoy your time. Here's
1:12:17
an idea. What's up? You could prepare for the
1:12:19
next week. Buy the food. Get the food ready.
1:12:23
Yeah. Start inviting people over. Get the drinks
1:12:27
ready. It's an action -packed weekend. The night
1:12:29
starts, the fights start at like one in the morning.
1:12:33
So we're about to find out who your hardcore
1:12:36
friends are. Oh, yeah. Who loves you. Who's willing
1:12:43
to sit up with you at like one in the morning
1:12:46
to watch some small Japanese men beat the shit
1:12:50
out of each other. I'm kind of forcing my girlfriend
1:12:54
to come over and watch the fight from morning
1:12:58
and then watch the fight at night. Oh, man. She's
1:13:03
going to have fun with that. This is a solid
1:13:05
test for Mrs. Saul. Oh, yeah. She's already seen
1:13:10
some interesting fights. She's had to sit through
1:13:13
Sebastian Fundora and Keith Thurman. Their man
1:13:21
spent some fights with me. So I hope she likes
1:13:26
this one. It gets her brought into the sport
1:13:28
a little more. Well, but we shall talk about
1:13:31
those fights next week. Yeah, we will. So I think
1:13:36
we've already got the parting words out of the
1:13:37
way. Just, you know, go out and do other stuff,
1:13:41
man. Like get yourself this weekend. Get yourself
1:13:45
prepared for next weekend. take your dog out
1:13:49
for like an extra long walk because you're going
1:13:51
to be skipping it next week that type of stuff
1:13:55
get yourself prepared alright if that is it then
1:14:01
that is it for this edition of the Boxing B -Sides
1:14:04
man we will see you on the other side when we're
1:14:08
going to be talking about the best fucking weekend
1:14:12
ever the Super Bowl It is. The fight of the century
1:14:18
for the Japanese. For the Japanese, yeah. How
1:14:31
do you want to convince them to watch MMA instead?
1:14:38
Or not instead, but just to start watching MMA.
1:14:42
I'm going to go like a different route than Nathan
1:14:45
went. I'm going to go with First of all, I think
1:14:48
MMA has more frequent watchable events. There's
1:14:54
some weeks in boxing where it's either super
1:14:57
degenerate or no names or whatever. I think in
1:15:00
the UFC, it's slightly better at times. And then
1:15:03
the big, big point, it's just more hectic. I
1:15:07
think MMA at times is just more hectic. You're
1:15:10
seeing stuff from street fights all the way to
1:15:12
movie -type fights. You got roundhouse kicks.
1:15:17
uh straight up like bar fights at times uh you
1:15:20
just you get a wider range of enjoyable fights
1:15:24
i i would say um and then just like i don't know
1:15:29
it's just it's more enjoyable the fact the fact
1:15:32
that at times you get to see just guys like standing
1:15:34
and banging it's it's just more primal in a way
1:15:37
uh is what i'd say that that's how i would try
1:15:40
to convince uh like boxing only fans that it's
1:15:43
just more if you enjoy chaos We saw it in the
1:15:46
Wild Riches or fight. If you enjoy that type
1:15:48
chaos, you know, because that wasn't exactly
1:15:51
like a bunch of technique in that fight. But
1:15:53
if you enjoyed something like that, I would definitely
1:15:55
try out MMA just because at times there is high
1:16:00
level things. And that is incredible to watch,
1:16:03
you know, people like Mauricio Hufi. You're seeing
1:16:06
like incredible knockouts with kicks. But even
1:16:10
like the lower level stuff can be enjoyable.
1:16:13
with people just going to town on each other,
1:16:15
you know, standing and banging. That'd probably
1:16:18
be the driving point that I would say to boxing
1:16:21
only fans, is that if you enjoy that chaos, I
1:16:25
would say definitely give MMA a try. If you like
1:16:28
chaos, I like that. If you do decide to give
1:16:31
MMA a shot, well, you can check out Ultimate
1:16:34
FN Casuals. You can hear us chat about all the
1:16:37
fights that happen every weekend, just like on
1:16:39
the boxing side.