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Matthew Chapter 1: Bible Study by Atheists · Sacrilegious Discourse - Bible Study for Atheists

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  [SPEAKER_01]: husband wife do you know what we're doing today well we're getting into the new testament
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one might say that we're doing a cold open because we're getting into the new testament with the zero prep work done.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And just opening up the book a map.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we had a discussion about this on our Discord, actually, which we're doing this live on Discord.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So the people that are on Discord and Patreon will be in this much earlier than it goes out in our live feed or on our regular feed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: that we had a discussion about whether we should do research ahead of time because it was something I had kind of toyed with for a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because what is the new testament?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: When does it start?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Who holds in it?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on there?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and people actually know way more about the new testament than they do about the old testament, generally speaking, because that's what most Christians care about the most.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So most of the quotes you hear, most of the things you hear about ideology come from the new testament.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's where the Jesus is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's where the Jesus guy is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's in the new book.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus Jesus is here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus, Jesus made it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We made it to Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We made it to the Jesus, you guys.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We found him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We found Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And for anybody jumping in here, not just the first New Testament episode.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So possibly, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So for anybody jumping in here, we did read the entire Old Testament one slow chapter at a time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we got there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We did.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And here we are.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we are.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We weren't impressed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're we're atheists who don't know shit about shit because neither one of us was raised religiously.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, so we're just reading this and trying to figure it out as we go along.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But we do go back and we do receive like if you are, if you aren't familiar with our podcast, we go back after usually five chapters and we do a question and answer session.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We do a little bit more digging into what we have read.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So we do cover a lot of the things that we missed if we do miss something.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we always miss something.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So what do we read today, exactly?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the first book of the New Testament is Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're starting with Matthew, and we're reading chapter one of Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: First Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, not first Matthew one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew chapter one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Matthew chapter one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's only one book of Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not first.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I guess the first and whatever's in the chapter.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there was like first and second.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There was all kinds of first and second.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: See we're learning everything still new.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just one Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you ready to get into Jesus?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm a little nervous about it, because you know, I have a metamya, and he's just over here now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This guy has been a large build up here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It has, and the last thing we read was the macabees, or as I like to refer to them, affectionately, the macadudos, and that's like 100 years before, 200 years before Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so now all of a sudden there's a Jesus like whoa yeah, what did three go.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You ready to jump into this?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I had to with saying.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but the regardless we're going to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, let's get into Matthew chapter one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so nervous about excited.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Are you?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I am.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I have you feel about Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you know about him?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's one of Jesus as apostles and that's all I got.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Is he a possible?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I also don't know the answer to that one because we have done zero prep work for this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So which we'll find out probably wouldn't be to our first Q&A or from our framework tonight, but one of the two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What's a math?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But it is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna tell us about Jesus, though.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that I know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's, thank you, Trisha.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a disciple.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A disciple who has an apostle.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He is an apostle.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I was right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, I knew a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the ones, or Matthew, Mark.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Matthew, Mark.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the four, those are the gospels.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, those are the gospels.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Luke, I know a thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys, that's exciting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they're, we'll get into this more probably during the Q&A, but I know, and also I think this was written many years later technically.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Fern.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, like, it's not look on this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This probably not the same guy that wrote it, but it might have been.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If we're to believe that it was written from stuff that he said, or things that he would ever, then maybe somebody else cataloged stuff he said, or something who knows.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just trying to tell you everything I know going in.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was pretty much it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know the word apostle.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know the word gospel.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know Matthew workbook and John and that they each tell a different perspective of what they know about Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus, yeah, right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's it, right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's all I got.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Chapter one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Chapter one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the genealogy of Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fuck.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The Messiah, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure keep going keep we're gonna keep going Abraham was the father of Isaac Isaac the father of Jacob Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers Oh, this is boring already It really is but at least like we know these names though because we've read them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and these are these are like the big ones But it's giving them a bit of guess
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Judah, the father of Perez, and Zera, whose mother was tomorrow, Perez, the father of his wrong, has wrong the father of Ram.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is because they have to justify Jesus' like the real thing, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the real McCoy or the real, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're telling us that he came from David, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's very important.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Even though David was not very cool, actually.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he wasn't that great in my opinion.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, just to interrupt myself here, I was watching, and I've been watching the great courses, understanding the old testament to try to like catch myself back up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I got up to where they talked about David, and I was like, no, it's so true.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't that great.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's the chatter in the discord.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently these genealogies don't match,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to touch my orlook.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So there's that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're already off to a great start of life and errors.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's good stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So Judah, the father of Perez and Zera, whose mother was tomorrow, Perez, I said Perez announcing Perez.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Same guy, different pronunciation.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Depending on my mood.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The father of Hezron, Hezron, the father of Ram, Ram, the father of
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  [SPEAKER_00]: a mini-dab, no, no, not Ram Dodge, a mini-dab, a mini-dab, the father of Nishon, Nishon, okay, okay, I don't I don't really care how to pronounce it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, I know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Charming the father of salmon.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like salmon.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like the fish.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know salmon.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Salmon the father of Boas.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Who's mother was wrote?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Rehab.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know Boas.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I know Rehab.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I remember them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Boas the father of Obed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I remember them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Who's mother was Ruth?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We know Ruth.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They are doing some name dropping here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was down partying on that Threshing floor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Threshing floor was like she never had good old time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, bed, the father of Jesse and Jesse, the father of King David.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now we got it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We got to David.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, we got to David.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been your riot's wife.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Solomon, the father of Rehoboum, Rehoboum, the father of Abisha.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Abisha, the father of Asa, Asa, the father of Joshua Fatt.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Jumping down, Shafat, the father of Juhoram, Juhoram, the father of Uzaya, Uzaya, the father of Jotham, I'm really sorry you guys.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, I mean, this is bad.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the part where, no, I didn't know, I mean, no, I didn't either, but this is the part in the Old Testament where I would have thrown in mascara, cow, tufferware, right, so we're being a little bit more respectful.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I just, I wasn't expecting this, so I knew about like Leviticus was boring.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Placeship is getting through like one thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is just the lineage of Jesus, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like, It's just the whole chapter one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It keeps going.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Joth on the father of A has, A has the father of Hezekiah, Hezekiah, the father of many Assa.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Manisa, the father of a man, a man, the father of Josiah, and Josiah, the father of Jack and Ia, and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember that happened.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Remember when that happened?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't that, yeah, because we were like, doesn't, isn't that the end of the line there?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The Babylonian, and that one of those things.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That was like, and then no matter what happened.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing happened.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is where it probably gets a little,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing ever happened in there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Where did you go and make it work from here?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, also if you're new to this podcast, um, apologies and advance for all of the Ghost Busters references that are completely irrelevant, but amused me nonetheless because just now when I said nothing ever happened in there, that was definitely a line from Ghost Bust.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I would never recall that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't, you wouldn't, um, because you're not as awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you listen really closely to wife, then you'll notice that she throws out things that I don't even know what she's making.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're so fucking irrelevant.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, but they're amusing to me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you know like every quote from Ghostbusters, you'll be in good shape.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And also kind of make you cooler in my book.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look, I find joy where it lives.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And for me, it's Ghostbusters quotes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the way it be.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: After oh, that was a period.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That was the end of a sentence.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We like ends of sentences.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I like getting away from names, but it looks like there's more coming from after the exile to Babylon.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So after the Babylon and the next time they're like, so we're talking they're skipping 70 years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you skip how do you take a genealogy and then skip 70 years you be the first chapter of Matthew fuck you
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, after the exiled Babylon, ready?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Jack and Naya was the father of Sheel Teele.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Sheel Teele was the father of Zaruba Bell.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I remember that guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Zaruba Bell, the father of a bee, a bee hood.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who did the father of a lie-a-king, a lie-a-king, the father of Azor?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember these guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Azor, the father of Zedok.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Can you remember Zedok?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Zedok, the father of Akim, Akim, the father of Ellie Hood.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Ellie Hood, the father of Ellie Azor.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Elias are the father of mothorne, mothorne the father of Jacob and Jacob the father of Joseph we're getting there, the husband of Mary and Mary was the mother of Joseph who is called the Messiah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I see.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We got there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now we've got this Messiah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's happening.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Jesus' name is Joseph.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, were you not listening?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, see, see that last time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus, who is called the Messiah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't listening good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't listen good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of names.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of names.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them started with J to be fair.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that's another end of sentence.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We got to Jesus the Messiah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We found them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There were 14 generations in all from Abraham to David, 14 from David to the exiled to Babylon, and 14 from the exiled to the Messiah.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: We do love us a strong number game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Remember when we did a whole episode on numbers and Khabala and she liked that?
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was ridiculous.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, 14 is a multiple seven.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, we love the number seven in the Bible loves the number seven.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I meant.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I personally don't give a shit cuz numbers just do be number in sure.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love math But not as it relates to the Bible right now.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna talk about some Jesus again.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, ready?
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so this is the birth of Christ.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: If it was the normal way, um, she gave birth and had a baby.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would be totally how that happens
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, ah, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a convenient story.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, also, I should point out for any new listeners that I am a child.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do love a good dick joke for jokes, sex joke.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And anytime the word came as used, if I can make it be disgusting, I will do so, and saying that they came together, just makes it, it's funny to me.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Basically wife's wife.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a child.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but yeah, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: They did they just knew how did they just know was I wasn't there.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't there either This one I'm asking questions the book didn't say I know it.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a problem that it doesn't say I feel like you're asking me and like I'm reading this for the first time friend.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just who is able to verify that a child and someone's womb is the Lord's child Look Matthew's telling you a thing.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe him.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well Matthew's telling you and That's all I have so far
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew's like, Mary was going to like get married, but they came before they came together.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to be honest.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm just reading this as a person, listen to a story, it sounds like she's on before they got married.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: cheated, doing some heavy lifting, may have been raped.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: True, because we're talking about ancient times.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, let's remember, not that it even has to be ancient times.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But let's remember the story of Bathsheba, who is depicted historically as a seductress, although the Bible does not indicate she was that way in any way whatsoever.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Old Testament only says that dude wanted her and took
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: and then impregnated her and then tried to have her husband brought home so that he could pretend that he wasn't the father and then the father, Bethsheba's husband was honorable and was like, I can't be having sex and happy at home while my guys are on the front line.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so then, you know, dude had him killed and then married Bethsheba.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, let's just
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Women were treated very shabby and had very little free will.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there was that one.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't dismissing that.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was just saying that the story sounds a bit suspect.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, totally, totally.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say she cheated on him.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would say more likely she was passed around.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I phrased that poorly.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I might be an angry feminist.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law and yet did not want to expose her to a public disgrace.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's been more than pregnant at her than why wouldn't you be joyous about that?
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't that be something you'd celebrate?
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had in mind to divorce her quietly.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you divorce someone that's carrying the God's, you know, child?
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shit.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, but she got that sweet sweet pussy.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: How can I get out of this?
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's like, I want to keep fucking Mary.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's pregnant.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: How are we going to make this work?
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got to make this work.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: ready.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: After he had considered what the fuck am I going to do so I could keep fucking the school.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: An angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said Joseph Son of David do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is how I found out.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she's not just pregnant.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's spiritually impregnoid.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: she continued the angel will give birth to a son and you are to give him the name Jesus.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's like setting himself up here with prophecy, like pre-profits, you know?
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because he will save his people from their sins.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is what the angel said to him that's a pretty crazy dream.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is that is also a very clear clearly laid out dream.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, none of my dreams are over that clear.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't think anybody would believe me if I had a dream that said anything remotely like this.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you are no Joseph.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph apparently had the ability to make people believe him.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who's the prophet?
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Virgin will conceive and give birth to us on and they will call him Emmanuel, which means God with us.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife, even though she was pregnant.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son, and he gave him the name Jesus.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: The end.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did so.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: What?
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: They said earlier that Joseph had another son, Jacob.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: What?
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It did.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph does not have a son, Jacob.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph doesn't have any sons.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure it did.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It did.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph doesn't have any other sons.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's got no sons.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm about to marry this bitch over here.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he's like, this bitch would be pregnant.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he's like, I really, I really feel embarrassed now.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: How do I get out of feeling embarrassed?
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we're based in an entire religion and in New Testament, off of one guy's dream, is that basically?
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, off of one guy's claim to enjoy it.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, this is, this is the proof that Jesus is real.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like this guy had a dream and said, this guy's Jesus and my wife kind of pregnanted by God.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're based on off one fucking person like it's only fucking person no no there's three other people We just haven't read those yet.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: No those are buddies with fucking you know Jesus that told the story of Jesus after the fact because He supposedly resurrected or some shit which that's questionable, too, but Even according to the stories from what I understand.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're saying okay.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying that this morality
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're basing everything off of Joseph's story.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's supposedly God's son, right?
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like, we're basing the whole idea that God impregnated Mary off of his fucking dream.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: People telling us about him.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: The people telling us about his fucking dream.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like Matt, yeah, he doesn't even have his own fucking book.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, maybe I don't, he doesn't, that I know of anyway.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a big deal of stuff.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, so we're basing this off of people relaying a story from him that he had a dream back when Jesus was first getting ready to be born.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what the whole fucking Jesus figure is based off of.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's sketchy at best.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's ludicrous.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, I, this doesn't start off strong for me.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've never been like, I was just chatting.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was looking for like this like big win for Christianity for them.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was like, I was really hoping.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was cheering them on and was like, hey, we made it through the whole testament.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really fucking sucked guys.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that, that, that God, he was a dick.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: That, oh, yeah, that is something you'll hear us say often.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: God is a dick.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we get to New Testament and I'm like, okay, we're building this.
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're building the timeline.
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's we're a great guy here.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of convoluted, but you know, like, we're building this from David to Jesus thing and then we get to the birth and it's like you trust that this guy that I'm telling you about from way back said that he had a dream and he saw an angel and then this guy's, you know, Jesus.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I gotta be honest, like, I thought there was gonna be more to the story starting out the book, like, and then Jesus was born, Dianne, like, whoa, why?
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, do we get the wise men on the main thing?
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a different one of the other guys tells us about it, maybe.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely could, I mean, it's just one of the stories you hear, you know, like, I don't know what he's, I don't know where he's going.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where he's going.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he's definitely not there.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not there.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It must be Matthew, maybe it's in the mark.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could be.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or the Luke.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you could be anywhere.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could be, you could be the next chapter for all I know.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: We could go back.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, all right.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: We did the first chapter of the New Testament.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about it?
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel kind of excited.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we busted our New Testament cherry finally.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: That may not be the appropriate place to put that.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's perfect.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were New Testament virgins and now we just like Mary.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I don't have any Holy Spirit inside me.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, none to speak of.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious what Mary has to say about all this.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you just go back and investigate like with like a girl.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really happy.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just between me and you, was it love, was it rape, what was it Joseph, was it somebody in your family, was it in your generations or dying in that world?
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was it a Roman guard, what happened, was it?
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Girl.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was Matthew one.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Matthew chapter one.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we've got some, like I said, we're getting this out early for our Patreon and we did this way early on discord live.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this won't be going on our regular feed until much later than when we actually recorded it.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So by the time this comes out, probably we'll be doing Matthew 2 Matthew chapter 2.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have any really hard time with this, yeah.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chapter 2.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chapter 2.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: After this comes out on the line on the main feed, but we still have some macabees and shit to wrap up on the other shit.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe a new testament intro.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we're going to intro it before we get to it as whatever.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you all for joining us.
• 25:02
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• 25:06
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• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get back to you.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get back to you.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So check out our website, check out our Discord, the information we'll be on there with regard to when we're having our lives.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we will see you next time.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's always a good time, so we look forward to seeing you there.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 25:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Bye.