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Trump’s Path to ‘Total Victory’ on Iran Backed by the People · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: It is a real war and also a war of words.
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Speaker 2: Right now, as Iran Supreme leader warns Israel, quote the
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Speaker 2: battle begins. Hours after Donald Trump also called for the
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Speaker 2: unconditional surrender of the nuclear.
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Speaker 1: Program in Iran. Now, the Iranian.
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Speaker 2: Supreme Leader the Iatola, declaring the battle begins in a
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Speaker 2: post hours after the President said We're not backing down,
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Speaker 2: and the name of hot Air, the battle begins. Allah
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Speaker 2: returns and We're not backing down. That's basically a synopsis
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Speaker 2: of what Iran's repetition of their rhetoric is.
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Speaker 1: Hour after hour after hour. Now.
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Speaker 2: The leader's sinister message comes after the Islamic Republic state
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Speaker 2: media also warned of a surprise on Tuesday night and
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Speaker 2: a Wednesday that the world will remember for centuries.
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Speaker 1: Their response.
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Speaker 2: The Iran leader addressed nation in a television broadcast in
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Speaker 2: which he pushed back against Trump's threats, saying is people
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Speaker 2: don't surrender, saying quote, intelligent people who know Iran, the
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Speaker 2: Iranian nation and its history will never speak to the
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Speaker 2: nation in threatening language because the Iranian nation will not surrender.
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Speaker 2: The Americans should know that any US military intervention will
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Speaker 2: undoubtedly be accompanied by irreputable damage now, the Israeli Defense
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Speaker 2: Force has reported multiple air raid sirens in northern Israel
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Speaker 2: early Wednesday due to a hostile aircraft infiltration quote unquote,
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Speaker 2: as they described it, sirens were heard and then go
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Speaker 2: on heights before the IDF announced it shot down three
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Speaker 2: Iranian drones. The Times of Israel is reporting now now
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Speaker 2: Iran launched two barrages of about thirty missiles total at
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Speaker 2: Israel Wednesday morning, and there was explosions that were.
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Speaker 1: Heard over Tel Aviv.
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Speaker 2: The IDF says a majority of the missiles were intercepted
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Speaker 2: and no injuries were rested. According to the outlet, fifty
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Speaker 2: Israeli fighter jets also flew to Iran to fire missiles
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Speaker 2: at a centerfuge production site and multiple weapons manufacturing facilities
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Speaker 2: around the Iranian capital. That is significant because yet again
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Speaker 2: it proves the point that the US and Israeli said
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Speaker 2: that they have total dominance over the airspace of Iran.
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Speaker 2: Fifty Israeli fighter jets are being used, just to be clear,
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Speaker 2: virtually at the same time, and these strikes directly degrade
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Speaker 2: Iran's ability to threaten Israel and the region. That is
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Speaker 2: what the Defense Forces account said on social media coming
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Speaker 2: out of Israel. Now, the IDEF says a majority of
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Speaker 2: the missiles were intercepted in no injuries like I said
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Speaker 2: were reported, as more rockets were fired into Israel. And
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Speaker 2: these strikes that they did in Iran were clearly not
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Speaker 2: going after civilians. They were going after these hard military targets.
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Speaker 1: Now Israeli a.
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Speaker 2: Few bish has also issued an evacuation warning for Iranian
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Speaker 2: residents living in southwestern Tehran in anticipation of another strike,
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Speaker 2: yet again trying to minimize the amount of civilian casualties.
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Speaker 1: That is something that Iran would never do.
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Speaker 2: Iran state news website claimed Israel had attacked several targets,
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Speaker 2: including a university in the east of Iran that is
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Speaker 2: linked to its Revolutionary Guard and their ballistic missile facility
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Speaker 2: near Tehran. Israel set had struck key elements of Iran's
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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons and missile programs during an overnight attack on
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Speaker 2: Tehran as well. Now we also know that the Supreme
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Speaker 2: Leader's ex account has been publishing propaganda posters featuring Iranian
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Speaker 2: missiles being launched at Israel and fireballs raining down on.
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Speaker 1: The Jewish state killing innocent people.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's their propaganda, Like we're going to kill all
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Speaker 2: of you, women and children.
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Speaker 1: But that's what Iran does. They have said it clearly.
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Speaker 2: They want to annihilate Israel and they want to get
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Speaker 2: rid of them from the river to see. They want
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Speaker 2: every Jewish person to die. Now you look at the
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Speaker 2: opposite of that in Israel's like, we're going to attack
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Speaker 2: over here, so civilians please leave. You think about the
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Speaker 2: difference in those two just mindsets. It's totally mind boggling
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Speaker 2: that anyone at this point would not be understanding and
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Speaker 2: backing Israel, and yet there are many who are not.
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Speaker 2: Now the Middle Eastern conflict is now entering. It's what
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Speaker 2: six six and a half days began when Israel launched
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Speaker 2: an Operation Rising Line, in which it attacks Iran's nuclear
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Speaker 2: plants and uranium enrichment facilities. Israeli forces have wiped out
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Speaker 2: Iran's air defenses virtually all together, giving them airspace superiority.
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Speaker 2: And Trump announced the majority of Iran's air defense systems
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Speaker 2: had been eliminated, and he said there will be more
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Speaker 2: details to come. So you put all of this breaking
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Speaker 2: news together, and the President said this quote, we now
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Speaker 2: have complete and total control of the skies of Iran.
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Speaker 2: Iran had good skytrackers and other defensive equipment and plenty
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Speaker 2: of it. But it doesn't compare to American made, conceived,
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Speaker 2: and manufactured stuff. That's what Trump wrote one social saying, quote,
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Speaker 2: nobody does it better than the good old USA. The
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Speaker 2: US Commander in chief also called for that unconditional surrender
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Speaker 2: on Tuesday afternoon.
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Speaker 1: As he revealed the US knows.
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Speaker 2: The location of Iran supreme leader, and so we could
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Speaker 2: take you out at any moment we want to.
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Speaker 1: Iran said it would.
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Speaker 2: Respond quote firmly if the US became directly involved in
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Speaker 2: the conflict with Israel. We also know that the White
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Speaker 2: House has said, now there's a very good chance that
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Speaker 2: we may join the fight with Israel to go after
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Speaker 2: Iran's nuclear site, the one that is deep down underneath
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Speaker 2: in essence a mountain, And we have the technology and
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Speaker 2: the aircraft to drop those bunker busting bombs that Israel
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Speaker 2: doesn't have. Now, all of this brings me to a
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Speaker 2: moment that happened been in the White House moments ago,
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Speaker 2: and moments ago, the President was asked a question about
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Speaker 2: these tensions and this story, and I want you to
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Speaker 2: listen to what he said.
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Speaker 1: Contributed to that change. How you got to where you
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Speaker 1: are and making your decision now, Well, I think it
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Speaker 1: started the first night. I mean, you know, the first
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Speaker 1: night was devastating.
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Speaker 3: And it really knocked the one side office, you know, devastating,
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Speaker 3: devastating evening day, and pretty much proceeded that way. I
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Speaker 3: have a meeting in the war roam in a little
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Speaker 3: while situation room to some people call it. So we're
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Speaker 3: going to meet, We're going to see. We're in the
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Speaker 3: midst of it. It's a terrible thing. I hate to
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Speaker 3: see it. I hate to see all that death. It's
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Speaker 3: so much death and destruction, but death primarily is what
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Speaker 3: I hate to see. Does that mean you haven't made
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Speaker 3: a decision yet.
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Speaker 1: On what to do.
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Speaker 3: I have ideas as to what to do, but I
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Speaker 3: haven't made a final I like to make the final
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Speaker 3: decision one second before, you know, because things change, I mean,
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Speaker 3: especially with war. Things changed with war can go from
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Speaker 3: one extreme to the other. Wars was very bad. There
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Speaker 3: was no reason for this to be a war. There
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Speaker 3: was no reason for Russia Ukraine a lot of wars.
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Speaker 3: There was no reason for you look right up there.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how to see the declaration of independence,
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Speaker 3: and I say, I wonder if you, you know, the
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Speaker 3: Civil War always seemed to me maybe that could have
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Speaker 3: been solved without losing six hundred thousand plus people.
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot to unpack there.
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Speaker 2: Number One, President Trump says Iran wants to visit him
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Speaker 2: at the White House and he might actually let them.
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Speaker 2: That is a huge development, especially after what I told
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Speaker 2: you the Supreme Leader was saying.
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Speaker 1: And then you may ask the question, why is.
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Speaker 2: The Supreme Leader saying all the things he's saying if
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Speaker 2: in fact they're begging to meet with the President of
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Speaker 2: United States of America, right it's a great question. It's
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Speaker 2: because they're also having to protect themselves against.
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Speaker 1: Their own people.
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Speaker 2: Their own people they're afraid could overthrow their government.
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Speaker 1: And right now they are weaker than they've been in.
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Speaker 2: Probably decades, because now the people understand they're actually not
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Speaker 2: safe and that their government is much weaker than they
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Speaker 2: imagined before. You think about when the President said to
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Speaker 2: the people of Tehran, you need to evacuate, and literally
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Speaker 2: millions left.
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Speaker 1: So that's part one.
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Speaker 2: Some of this is self preservation for the Supreme Leader
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Speaker 2: and propaganda to control their people. The second thing the
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Speaker 2: President said is when he said look, I'm going to
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Speaker 2: be meeting with my National Security Council in the situation.
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Speaker 1: In one hour.
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Speaker 2: That also sends a signal to Ran like you're running
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Speaker 2: out of time. In other words, we're moving forward on
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Speaker 2: what could really be an attack on your nuclear site.
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Speaker 2: And that could also weaken the regime as well, because
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Speaker 2: the people there would then lose pride in their supreme
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Speaker 2: leader and realize that their supreme leader really is put
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Speaker 2: them in a very bad situation. It also could make
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Speaker 2: them run to the table even faster. We have to
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Speaker 2: see how that ends up. And then finally Trump says
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Speaker 2: he doesn't want war. He's working towards peace. He clearly
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Speaker 2: doesn't want war. That's what he's been saying since the
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Speaker 2: very beginning. And remember that's what he said for sixty
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Speaker 2: days in a row when Iran refused to come to
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Speaker 2: the table. His final moment that he said was no
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Speaker 2: decision on action has been made yet keyword yet. So
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Speaker 2: the President seems to be playing two games right now.
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Speaker 2: One negotiating possibly with Iran to dial all this back,
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Speaker 2: and two what we may need to do to go
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Speaker 2: after their nuclear site. I want to also make sure
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Speaker 2: another aspect of this conversation and some of the debate
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Speaker 2: here in the US. Many of you have probably seen
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Speaker 2: what I would refer to is nothing more than a
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Speaker 2: hit job ass type interview that Tucker Carlson did with
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Speaker 2: Ted Kruz, and a lot of people have been texting
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Speaker 2: me like what's happening.
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Speaker 1: With Tuger Carlson. I have no idea.
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Speaker 2: What I do know is Tucker Carlson is a full
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Speaker 2: blown isolationist. He's an apologist for by the way, like
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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, he put out like state sponsored propaganda going
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Speaker 2: to the grocery store in Russia and doing that interview
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Speaker 2: and what was also very interesting about the interview, Like
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Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen that type of
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Speaker 2: energy when he was interviewing Vitimir Putin instead.
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Speaker 1: Of Ted Cruz.
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Speaker 2: But what you're witnessing right now is there some people
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Speaker 2: like Tucker that want to be this like isolation, just
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Speaker 2: like everything outside of America's borders doesn't matter. And I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I wish it was that simple. I wish you could
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Speaker 2: just be that simplistic as a human being and say, oh,
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Speaker 2: everybody else in the world can do whatever they want
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Speaker 2: and it doesn't affect us, and we just shouldn't be involved,
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Speaker 2: and we should all just look the other way. And
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Speaker 2: that's that's just kumbayat right, Like that's the Tucker Carlson
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Speaker 2: foreign policy.
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Speaker 1: It's very dangerous.
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Speaker 2: I posted a video earlier of the parliament in Iran
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Speaker 2: burning an American flag in at the front.
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Speaker 1: Of the room and chanting not only.
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Speaker 2: That they wanted to kill America, they wanted nuke America,
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Speaker 2: but channing death to America on top of all of that, right, Like,
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Speaker 2: the Iranian parliament and the NPS literally are burning the
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Speaker 2: American flag well, channing death to America. And then they
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Speaker 2: threaten to you's a nuclear bomb against the American homewin,
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Speaker 2: not American interests in the Middle least the American home win.
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Speaker 1: I will say it again. Believe then when they start chanting.
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Speaker 2: Death to America, like this is it, folks, that's the
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Speaker 2: enchanting death to America.
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Speaker 1: In their language, Like I want you to go watch
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Speaker 1: this video. I want you to.
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Speaker 2: See the faces of these radicals. I want you to
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Speaker 2: listen and watch them burn this American flag as they
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Speaker 2: look like, you know, the most psychotic people you've ever seen.
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Speaker 2: They want to kill America. They want to kill Americans.
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Speaker 2: They want us to die in a nuclear attack. They're
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Speaker 2: saying it, And you also have to look at who's
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Speaker 2: backing around, like Russia loves them, China loves them, by
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Speaker 2: the way, they love for them to fill the vacuum
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Speaker 2: in the world is their allies. They would absolutely love that.
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Speaker 2: But this is what they're they're saying. And yet Tucker
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Speaker 2: Carlson's sitting there going, oh, well, hold on a second,
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Speaker 2: like we don't want any of this, right, we just
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Speaker 2: want to look the other way.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: I've said this before and I'll say it again. I
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Speaker 2: don't want to invade Iran. I don't think we can
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Speaker 2: nation build in the Middle East. I don't think we
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Speaker 2: can export democracy like I thought we could have to
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Speaker 2: nine to eleven, that people would be so happy we're
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Speaker 2: in Afghanistan, in Iraq and they would send it for themselves.
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Speaker 2: That clearly doesn't work. My foreign policy has changed. I
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Speaker 2: was wrong, then you learn from your mistakes. I am
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Speaker 2: not in favored nation building. I'm not in favor of
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Speaker 2: seeing American troops to Iran. I want to make that clear.
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Speaker 2: What I am in favor of is making sure the
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Speaker 2: people that are there in leadership don't have the chance
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Speaker 2: to kill innocent Americans in this country with a nuclear weapon,
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Speaker 2: or Israel for that matter, or American interest in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East. And yet Tucker Carlson's out there and he
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Speaker 2: put out this like just a really nasty video of
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Speaker 2: him going after Ted Cruz my coast, by the way,
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Speaker 2: And I'm going to defend him because I believe that
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Speaker 2: this was just so classless where he's like, well, do
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Speaker 2: you know the population in Iran? Wait, you don't know
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Speaker 2: the population, by the way. I mean my response, Tuckers,
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Speaker 2: do you know any people live in your neighborhood? Do
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Speaker 2: you know people live in the town that you live in.
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Speaker 2: Do you know any people live in Russia? When you
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Speaker 2: were doing propaganda for Vladimir Putin literally in Russia, interviewing
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Speaker 2: him and then going to the grocery store putting on
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Speaker 2: a propaganda video on behalf of Russia, like the I
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Speaker 2: got you type questions is just such white trash And
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Speaker 2: it's such narcissism from Tucker Carlson. It really is sad
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Speaker 2: and disappointing that he's doing this now. Tucker's also like
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Speaker 2: gone against Donald Trump now and apparently he's feeling the
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Speaker 2: heat and he's licking his wounds now.
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Speaker 1: And I want you to hear what.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump had to say at the Oval Office when
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Speaker 2: he was asked about not only this like just totally
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Speaker 2: classless interview with Taker. He's like Ted Cruz is not
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Speaker 2: your enemy, Tucker, but it's like Tucker against the world,
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Speaker 2: and WIGN policy is dangerous, which is just put blinders on,
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Speaker 2: only look at America and no one and let the
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Speaker 2: rest of the world burn. And America should not be
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Speaker 2: involved anywhere else around the world. And if you don't
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Speaker 2: know the population of Iran, then you shouldn't have an
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Speaker 2: opinion on what's happening Rand By the way, I don't
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Speaker 2: know the population Ran I know now because this stupid interview,
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Speaker 2: but the idea that my foreign policy is not authentic
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Speaker 2: or real if I don't know the population of a country,
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Speaker 2: I mean I would have asked Tucker this question, Hey,
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Speaker 2: do you know what the population was in Germany when
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Speaker 2: Adolf Hitler was in charge? Well, if you don't know
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Speaker 2: that population, you're saying that we shouldn't have stopped Hitler?
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me? Like it's insanity.
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Speaker 2: But listen to Tucker now backtracking because he's realizing, oh wait,
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Speaker 2: I may have gone too far.
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Speaker 4: The Tucker Girls and Senator Tuchfreus interview. It seems like
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Speaker 4: this issue on whether or not the United States should
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Speaker 4: strike is kind of dividing a lot.
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Speaker 1: Of your supporters.
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Speaker 3: Uh no, my supporters are for me. My supporters are
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Speaker 3: America first. They make America great again. My supporters don't
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Speaker 3: want to see around have a nuclear weapon. Tucker's a
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Speaker 3: nice guy. He called and apologized the other day because
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Speaker 3: he thought he said things that were too strong, and
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Speaker 3: I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz is a nice guy.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been with me for a whole time.
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Speaker 3: I'd say once the race was over, he's been with
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Speaker 3: me ever since.
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Speaker 1: But very simple.
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Speaker 3: If they think that it's okay for Iran to have
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Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon, and then they should oppose me. But
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Speaker 3: nobody thinks it's okay.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, Trump wasn't done there.
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Speaker 2: He also talked about his conversation he had with Tucker
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Speaker 2: Carlson to the media as well.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to what he said.
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because I did ask Tucker. I said, well,
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Speaker 3: are you okay with nuclear weapons being in the hands
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Speaker 3: of Iran? And he sort of didn't like that. He
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Speaker 3: didn't want to really, but he sort of didn't like that.
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Speaker 3: And I said, well, if if it's okay with you,
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Speaker 3: then you and I do have a difference. But it's
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Speaker 3: really not okay with him. Therefore, you may have to fight,
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Speaker 3: and maybe it'll land, and maybe it'll land very quickly.
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Speaker 3: But there's no way that you can allow, whether you
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Speaker 3: have to fight or not, you can allow Ran to
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Speaker 3: have an opener weapon because the entire world will blow up.
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Speaker 3: Not gonna let that happening. He had a bit of
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Speaker 3: a row with the President of Manuel Man.
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Speaker 2: I go back to yesterday, I was doing an interview
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Speaker 2: on Newsation Chris Clomo's show, and he asked me a
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Speaker 2: question trying to pit me against Steve Bannon and Tucker
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Speaker 2: and others, and I said, you know, it's funny. This
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Speaker 2: is going to be a blip on the radar screen.
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Speaker 2: I think I support President Trump and what he decides
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Speaker 2: to do here, especially if he goes after this nuclear side.
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Speaker 2: I'm in favor of going after this nuclear side. I
18:43
Speaker 2: want to be clear about that. I'm not in favor
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Speaker 2: of invasion. I'm not in favor of boots on the ground.
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Speaker 2: And Tucker Carlson, of course, would just lose his mind
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Speaker 2: if if we were having a conversation right now over
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Speaker 2: me saying that. But I said, if you think I'm
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Speaker 2: going to like go to war with my own team
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Speaker 2: over this, I'm not. I know Steve Banner, we don't
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Speaker 2: agree on everything. I have a lot of respect for Steve,
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Speaker 2: Steve and our friends. Steve and I had dinner recently,
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Speaker 2: we chat often, had him on my show recently. And
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Speaker 2: this idea that there's some massive divide within MAGA.
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Speaker 1: I think is a farce.
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Speaker 2: And I think when President Trump said I did ask
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Speaker 2: Tucker are you okay with nuclear weapons being the hands
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Speaker 2: of Iran? And he didn't like that. I said, if
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Speaker 2: it's okay with you, then then you and I have
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Speaker 2: a difference. Right, It's okay, we can disagree. But this
19:28
Speaker 2: idea that we should just put on blinders and let
19:32
Speaker 2: the rest of the world burn that didn't work too
19:34
Speaker 2: well in World War Two, by the way, and we
19:36
Speaker 2: were like, we're not getting involved, We're not get involved.
19:37
Speaker 2: We're not getting involved, we're not getting involved. But how
19:39
Speaker 2: did that work out for us? It didn't work out
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Speaker 2: very well.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: You look at the Iranian military put out a video
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Speaker 2: on X and you should look at it. I reposted
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Speaker 2: on X You can follow me there at Ben Ferguson's show.
19:52
Speaker 2: But they put out a video and it's like a
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Speaker 2: It almost.
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Speaker 1: Looks like an animated movie video.
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Speaker 2: It says there's a surprise of night that the world
19:58
Speaker 2: will remember for many trees. And in this video, it
20:02
Speaker 2: shows them attacking with a massive barrage of rockets inter
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Speaker 2: ballistic missiles flying across the world and it looks like
20:10
Speaker 2: it's hitting America, and it says justice will be served,
20:13
Speaker 2: and then it shows what looks like an American with
20:16
Speaker 2: rocks of a building coming down on them, and then
20:19
Speaker 2: you know their soldier coming in with their sword.
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Speaker 1: To behead him.
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Speaker 2: I guess, and it says shadow of a boss like
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Speaker 2: this is what they believe. They are radical Islamic terrorists,
20:32
Speaker 2: they support radical Islamic terrorism. There is a video of
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Speaker 2: what looks like to me suicide bombers and a boat
20:39
Speaker 2: going after one of our aircraft carriers. And so I
20:43
Speaker 2: look at all of this, how I'll go back to
20:47
Speaker 2: just isolationism and Tucker Carlson doing the one to eighty here,
20:50
Speaker 2: let me go back to the Atlantic in February twenty
20:54
Speaker 2: second twenty in February of twenty twelve. February twenty second
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Speaker 2: of twenty twelve, this is the headline Tucker Carlson, Iran
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Speaker 2: deserves to be annihilated. My question for Tucker is what changed?
21:05
Speaker 2: What changed between then and now?
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Speaker 1: What changed? I want to know what changed.
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Speaker 2: We're getting new breaking news and this is moving very
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Speaker 2: quickly with what's happening between Iran, Israel, and now the
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Speaker 2: United States of America, with a new statement that has
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Speaker 2: just come out from Donald Trump saying, quote, we.
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Speaker 1: Don't want a long term war with Iran.
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Speaker 2: President Donald Trump, making it clear that the administration is
21:31
Speaker 2: not looking for long term war. In a second statement,
21:34
Speaker 2: Trump addressing concerns among members of the Make America Greatagan
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Speaker 2: base that the United States would be pulled into a
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Speaker 2: quote long term war while filling a question from the media.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to his own words outside of the
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Speaker 2: White House.
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Speaker 5: Some of the people in the base don't want a
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Speaker 5: long term war. They're afraid that we're going to get
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Speaker 5: into a long term. What you want for a long term,
21:55
Speaker 5: but we're looking to Earth. It's only I only want
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Speaker 5: one thing. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 6: I'm not looking long term structure. And I've been saying
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Speaker 6: that for twenty years. I've been saying that there's a
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Speaker 6: civilian who got a lot of publicity. People would cover
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Speaker 6: it very simply. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, So it's.
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Speaker 1: Not a question of anything else.
22:14
Speaker 6: And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a
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Speaker 6: country because they would.
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Speaker 1: Use it on us, and they'd use it on other people,
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Speaker 1: and they'd be a terror all over the world.
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Speaker 2: We're not looking for long term more. I only want
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Speaker 2: one thing. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 1: That is it.
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Speaker 2: Very simply, he said in another interview, Iran cannot have
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Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 1: It's not a question of anything else.
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Speaker 2: And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a
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Speaker 2: country because they would use it on us and use
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Speaker 2: it on other.
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Speaker 1: People, and they'd be a tear all over the world.
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Speaker 2: Trump notally tweeted back in twenty eleven, before he even
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Speaker 2: enter the political world, that quote, I Ran cannot have
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Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon and has been firm and it stands
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Speaker 2: throughout his political career and his presidential campaign in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four. If you go back to the doctrine of
23:02
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, look at November fourth, twenty eleven, his exact tweet,
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Speaker 2: Iran's quest for nuclear weapons is a major threat to
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Speaker 2: our nation's national security interests. We cannot allow Ran to
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Speaker 2: go nuclear. That was before he was running for any office.
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Speaker 2: In fact, that's actually when he was a Democrat. Trump
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Speaker 2: notably gave Iran a sixty day deadline that expired on Thursday,
23:27
Speaker 2: June twelfth to make a deal to end its nuclear program,
23:31
Speaker 2: and then on Friday, Israel began striking Iranian nuclear sites,
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Speaker 2: military leaders, and refineries. Trump declared tuesday, quote, we have
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Speaker 2: complete and total control of the skies of Iran and
23:44
Speaker 2: revealed his team new the exact location of the leader
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Speaker 2: of Iran. When asked Wednesday if the US was moving
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Speaker 2: closer to striking Iranian nuclear sites, here is what Trump
23:55
Speaker 2: said about that about whether.
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Speaker 1: You are moving closer?
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Speaker 2: You believe you at this moving closer to striking Iranian
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Speaker 2: nuclear facilities.
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Speaker 1: Where's your mindset on that? You say that?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 6: You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that. Will
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Speaker 6: you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
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Speaker 1: And what time exactly, sir, sir? Would you strike it?
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Speaker 6: Would you please inform U.
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Speaker 1: So we can be there and watch. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: don't know that I'm going to even do it. You
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Speaker 1: don't know. I may do it, I may not do it.
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Speaker 6: I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.
24:25
Speaker 1: I can tell you this that.
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Speaker 6: Iram's got a lot of trouble and they want to negotiate.
24:32
Speaker 6: And I said, why didn't you negotiate with me before
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Speaker 6: all this death and destruction? Why didn't you nego? I
24:37
Speaker 6: said to the people, why didn't you negotiate with me
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Speaker 6: two weeks ago?
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Speaker 1: You could have done fine. You would have had a country.
24:46
Speaker 6: It's very sad to watch this I mean, I've never
24:49
Speaker 6: said anything like it, so you neveryone thought it was
24:52
Speaker 6: going to be the reverse.
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Speaker 1: I didn't.
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Speaker 6: I didn't think so. And they're telling him, you got
24:55
Speaker 6: to you got to do something, you got to negotiate.
24:58
Speaker 6: And at the end last week and that they said, no,
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Speaker 6: we're not going to do that, and they got hit.
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Speaker 6: Remember sixty days, and then came the sixty sixty one
25:06
Speaker 6: is going to become a very famous number. That was
25:08
Speaker 6: one hell of a hit, that first hit. That was
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Speaker 6: one hell of a hit. Not sustainable, to be honest.
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Speaker 6: That's where it ended. It ended on the first night.
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Speaker 1: Yes, too late, though, do you think it's too late
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Speaker 1: to now?
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Speaker 6: Really, nothing's too late.
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Speaker 1: The only thing too late is Powell.
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Speaker 6: Powell's too late, too late.
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Speaker 2: Powell President Trump making it clear this is something that
25:28
Speaker 2: is on the table, which brings us to the latest
25:30
Speaker 2: breaking news and what is being reported just a moment
25:33
Speaker 2: ago on Fox News Channel that Donald Trump has in
25:37
Speaker 2: fact approved attack plans against Iran.
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Speaker 4: Fox, who's alert the IATOLA, has gone into hiding. He's
25:44
Speaker 4: believed to be holed up inside an underground bunker northeast
25:47
Speaker 4: of the Capitol. This is a different kind of Iranian
25:50
Speaker 4: hostage crisis. Komanie can hide, but he can't run. For
25:54
Speaker 4: the past twenty four hours, Israel's been attacking the area
25:57
Speaker 4: around his underground layer. Kamane, still talking tough, says Iran
26:02
Speaker 4: will not surrender to anyone, and is warning that if
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Speaker 4: America joins the fight and strikes, it'll result in irreparable
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Speaker 4: damage to the United States.
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Speaker 1: Is he bluffing, We don't know.
26:15
Speaker 4: Iranian proxies, which have been severely degraded, are threatening to
26:19
Speaker 4: commit acts of terror against American troops and American ships
26:23
Speaker 4: in the region, and American businesses are now bracing for
26:26
Speaker 4: cyber attacks.
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Speaker 1: Trump says, good luck with that. We won't be bullied.
26:31
Speaker 1: I was the hunted and now I'm the hunter. It's
26:35
Speaker 1: a big difference. That means I've had it. Okay, I've
26:38
Speaker 1: had it. I give up no more. Then we go
26:41
Speaker 1: blow up all you know, all the.
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Speaker 6: Nuclear stuff that's all over the place.
26:45
Speaker 1: Then now they had.
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Speaker 3: Bad intentions, you know, the for forty years they've been
26:50
Speaker 3: saying death.
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Speaker 6: To American, death to Israel, and death to anybody else
26:53
Speaker 6: that they didn't like. They were bullies, they were schoolyard bullies,
27:00
Speaker 6: and now they're not bullies anymore.
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Speaker 4: Trump's been meeting in the situation room with his National
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Speaker 4: Security team head of Central Command, Army General Eric Carilla,
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Speaker 4: they call him the Gorilla. Has been instrumental in the
27:12
Speaker 4: war planning the Pentagons, sending in their new state of
27:15
Speaker 4: the art supercarrier, the USS Gerald Ford, and amassing a
27:19
Speaker 4: tremendous amount of assets in the area. Today, Trump had
27:23
Speaker 4: lunch with Pakistan's army chief.
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Speaker 1: Pakistan borders Iran.
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Speaker 4: Seems like something's about to happen, and this is just breaking.
27:31
Speaker 4: The Wall Street journal is reporting Trump privately approved attack
27:35
Speaker 4: plans against Iran. Now we don't know what these plans entail,
27:39
Speaker 4: but we're told they include US air strikes. Unsure if
27:43
Speaker 4: that includes bunker Busters. Remember, the latest version of the
27:46
Speaker 4: bunker Buster has never been used on the battlefield, It's
27:50
Speaker 4: only been tested. Axios reports that Trump has been quizzing
27:54
Speaker 4: as generals. Are they sure if he uses them they'll
27:57
Speaker 4: be one hundred percent effective? Generals say yes, but Trump's
28:02
Speaker 4: not completely convinced. Caroline Levitt says all options remain on
28:06
Speaker 4: the table. Trump's been waiting on giving the final order,
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Speaker 4: seeing if the Iranians give up and surrender their new
28:13
Speaker 4: program peacefully. Sources in DC say Trump's out of patience
28:18
Speaker 4: and Iran's up against the clock.
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Speaker 7: I believe that unlesserre On surrenders in the next forty
28:23
Speaker 7: eight hours, the United States, in conjunction with Israel, will
28:26
Speaker 7: engage in military action.
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Speaker 4: Trump says the Iranians want to fly all the way
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Speaker 4: to the White House to negotiate an end to this.
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Speaker 1: But he says it's too late. He doesn't appear to
28:36
Speaker 1: be open.
28:37
Speaker 4: To long drawn out negotiations where he gets strung along
28:40
Speaker 4: like last time.
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Speaker 3: We're not looking for a ceasfire. We're looking for a total,
28:44
Speaker 3: complete victory.
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Speaker 1: Again.
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Speaker 3: You know what the victory is no nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 1: Trump's made a decision.
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Speaker 4: Iran's nuclear program is gone. The person who ultimately decides
28:58
Speaker 4: that is the Iatola. He can either let us do
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Speaker 4: it peacefully or we'll do it violently. But either way,
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Speaker 4: the outcome of this war is this, the Iranians will
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Speaker 4: never be able.
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Speaker 1: To acquire a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 2: Now, the second part of this story is this, will
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Speaker 2: the supreme leader of Iran come to the negotiating table
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Speaker 2: and actually stop the nuclear program. They may be wanting
29:21
Speaker 2: to send people to the White House, but here's what
29:24
Speaker 2: the actual Iatolas says. He has a stark warning directed
29:28
Speaker 2: both at the US and Israel. In fact, he declared,
29:32
Speaker 2: today the battle begins, stating there would be quote no
29:36
Speaker 2: mercy for the terrorist Zionis regime of Israel. He also
29:41
Speaker 2: criticized the US President trump calls for Iran's unconential surrender,
29:45
Speaker 2: asserting that Iran will never quote unquote surrender and that
29:49
Speaker 2: any US military action would cause irreparable damage. Iran's you
29:54
Speaker 2: An ambassador echoed that any direct US involvement alongside Israel
29:59
Speaker 2: w trigger their own firm response. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman
30:05
Speaker 2: went further, warning the US intervention could spark an all
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Speaker 2: out war across.
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Speaker 1: The entire region.
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Speaker 2: Now, let me say one other thing that's very interesting
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Speaker 2: about all this is what's happening within the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 2: Many Democrats are staying silent on this, but some are
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Speaker 2: willing to stand up and stand on the issue, actually
30:27
Speaker 2: backing Donald Trump and saying we need to go even further.
30:31
Speaker 2: Insert Democratic Senator John Fetterman. Here's what he had to
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Speaker 2: say on Fox News Channel with Bill Hemmer.
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Speaker 4: Say show no mercy and if you have to take
30:41
Speaker 4: the Supreme leader out, do it.
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Speaker 1: Explain your position now, Sir.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think they should have targeted him, absolutely
30:49
Speaker 8: gone taking him out. I think the way Israel operates,
30:53
Speaker 8: they just take out the leadership, just like they did
30:56
Speaker 8: with Hesbola, and they've already done that with the Iranian leadership,
31:00
Speaker 8: just took them out, even laying in their beds, and
31:02
Speaker 8: they didn't take down the whole building. They actually targeted
31:05
Speaker 8: where they lay in bed. And now they eliminated the
31:08
Speaker 8: military ones and the nuclear ones. That's magnificent and the
31:13
Speaker 8: precision which they've done that, And I don't know why
31:15
Speaker 8: they would have left the leader out.
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Speaker 2: What comes after that if that reality were to take place.
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Speaker 8: Senator Well, I think the reality is is that that
31:25
Speaker 8: you have a nation that just is in a position
31:27
Speaker 8: where they have to be held accountable for what they've done.
31:30
Speaker 8: They are the ones that built and created the proxies
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Speaker 8: like Hamas and Hezbollah and put our whole region in
31:37
Speaker 8: this kind of chaos, and now they clearly have nuclear ambitions,
31:41
Speaker 8: and now I think it's entirely I'm not sure if
31:43
Speaker 8: I might have been the only one constantly calling them
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Speaker 8: to just take this facility out and to use the
31:50
Speaker 8: B two and those gigantic bunker buster ones and partner
31:56
Speaker 8: up with Israel what they've.
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Speaker 2: Done, Fetterman saying, I call all in Israel to eliminate
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Speaker 2: the Supreme leader without mercy. So that brings us to
32:06
Speaker 2: the latest point where we are now. Is there a
32:09
Speaker 2: very good chance that Donald Trump could in fact order
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Speaker 2: that we attack Iran's nuclear sites with those bunker busting bombs.
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Speaker 2: The answers yes, would there be bipartisan support?
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Speaker 1: Clearly? John Fetterman says he will join others.
32:23
Speaker 2: In the Republican Party advocating for this, which brings me
32:27
Speaker 2: to my final point, what are the American people think
32:30
Speaker 2: about the president stands?
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Speaker 1: Well?
32:33
Speaker 2: Apparently in new polling, America stands overwhelmingly with Donald Trump
32:38
Speaker 2: and Israel by staggeringly large numbers. Nearly seventy percent of
32:44
Speaker 2: Americans say US airstrikes to stop Iran's nuclear ambitions are appropriate,
32:50
Speaker 2: and the best part about it is who had to
32:52
Speaker 2: report it?
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Speaker 1: CNN listen carefully and overall, I.
32:56
Speaker 9: Feel like there's more support for Donald Trump's positions than
32:58
Speaker 9: is comically acknowledged. Poser Iran getting a nuclear weapon. I mean,
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Speaker 9: look at this, Seventy nine percent of adults agree on
33:04
Speaker 9: that they agree with Donald Trump and Ron cannot get.
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Speaker 1: A nuclear weapon. Eighty three percent of.
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Speaker 9: Republicans, seventy nine percent of Independence, seventy nine percent of Democrats.
33:11
Speaker 9: When you get seventy nine percent of Democrats and eighty
33:14
Speaker 9: three percent of Republicans agreeing on anything, you know that
33:17
Speaker 9: that position is the very clear majority in this country.
33:19
Speaker 9: And so the American public is with Donald Trump. They
33:22
Speaker 9: definitely opposed in Ron.
33:23
Speaker 1: Getting nuclear weapons. So this is a nuance here.
33:26
Speaker 7: But you know Trump and Nettino both arguing that Ron
33:29
Speaker 7: is close to being capable of making a nuclear weapon.
33:32
Speaker 7: If that is the case, what is the feeling of
33:34
Speaker 7: Americans as to whether the United States should get involved
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Speaker 7: in this conflict?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 9: If you buy Donald Trump's theory of the case. And
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Speaker 9: I think that's important to note, this is polling from
33:43
Speaker 9: April for Rans trying to make a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 1: Look at this overall, you get the.
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Speaker 9: Slight plurality, I mean it's within the margin ember, but
33:50
Speaker 9: the slight plurality of Americans actually favor US air strikes
33:53
Speaker 9: compared to forty seven percent of posing it. Now here's
33:55
Speaker 9: the other nugget. Will note, right, there's been a lot
33:57
Speaker 9: of talk online and on social media and en podcasts
34:01
Speaker 9: of a divide within the Republican ranks.
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Speaker 1: But here on this question.
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Speaker 9: If a rans trying to make a nuclear up, and
34:05
Speaker 9: look at that sixty nine percent of Republicans, the clear
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Speaker 9: vast majority of Republicans favor US air strikes on are
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Speaker 9: on on their nuclear facilities.
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Speaker 2: No doubt President Trump has a support of the American
34:17
Speaker 2: people in overwhelming and staggering numbers. And for anyone out
34:21
Speaker 2: there that's trying to tell you there's some massive divide
34:23
Speaker 2: within MAGA country, they're just wrong. Basically, seventy percent of
34:29
Speaker 2: the GOP favor US air strikes. This is a major
34:34
Speaker 2: number on such a quote controversial issue. So there may
34:39
Speaker 2: actually be just propagandas out there, just like Tucker Carlson,
34:43
Speaker 2: who are trying to act like there's some big divide
34:45
Speaker 2: when clearly the Republican Party is standing with Donald Trump.
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