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Democrats have Options on Replacing Biden-We Explain Them ALL · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: The fallout from the debate this past week continues, and
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that have been asking
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Speaker 1: me what is going to happen, And there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of different scenarios. So I'm going to break it down
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Speaker 1: for you so you understand exactly what could happen here.
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Speaker 2: After what was.
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Speaker 1: Described by Reuters as the president's quote shaky performance at
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Speaker 1: the debate with Donald Trump on Thursday night, Democrats then
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Speaker 1: began to openly question whether he should be replaced as
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Speaker 1: a candidate for the twenty twenty four election. There is
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Speaker 1: a process for doing so, but to be very clear
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Speaker 1: so everyone understands that process, it's going to be extremely messy.
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Speaker 2: The other question is how does it work.
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Speaker 1: Reuters spoke with a senior fellow at the brookings In
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Speaker 1: think Tank, a Democratic National Committee member and the author
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Speaker 1: of the book Primary Politics, about the presidential nominating process,
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Speaker 1: and they asked the question that everyone's asking, how would
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Speaker 1: it work? So what options do the Democrats have? Let's
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Speaker 1: start with that the Democratic Party has had no real
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Speaker 1: plan B for Biden.
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Speaker 2: As its presidential candidate.
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Speaker 1: He ran virtually unopposed for the party's presidential nomination. They
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Speaker 1: decided that they decided to basically shut everybody out, tell
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Speaker 1: everybody not to run against him in a primary. He
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Speaker 1: will not be nominated officially however, until later this summer
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Speaker 1: at the Democratic National Convention. So the reality is, yes,
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Speaker 1: there is still time to make a change. And then
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Speaker 1: that's where the handful yeah, not one or two, but
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Speaker 1: a handful of scenarios become possible realities. Now here's the
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Speaker 1: easiest path to replace Joe Biden. So you understand, Biden
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Speaker 1: could just say by himself. And as you know, there's
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Speaker 1: reports that he's having a meeting with his closest advisors
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Speaker 1: and his family Sunday right, had this big meeting that
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Speaker 1: they put out to decide and to talk about the
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Speaker 1: future of the campaign.
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Speaker 2: There could be and we're hearing that.
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Speaker 1: Quote the money has dried up, people are not willing
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Speaker 1: to give. They also are going to be looking at
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Speaker 1: polling and internal polling numbers decide is there a pathway
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Speaker 1: for the president and not just a pathway, but is
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Speaker 1: there a way that they could turn this ship around
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Speaker 1: after the dismal performance. Now, I will say this to
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Speaker 1: be clear, Joe Biden and the team made sure that
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was out there right after these debates and
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Speaker 1: not into hiding like he usually is. I've seen more
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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden in the past week than I have
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Speaker 1: seen probably in the last six months.
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is out.
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Speaker 1: There, and they're treating him like he is a candidate
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Speaker 1: right now, now running for office. Now he may actually
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Speaker 1: have to be a real candidate now, not just kind
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Speaker 1: of show up here and there.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna have to.
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Speaker 1: Go full speed ahead and look at a lot of
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Speaker 1: donors in the eyes, and meet with a lot of
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Speaker 1: people and ask for a lot of favors. He's not
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to just do this by sitting at
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Speaker 1: the White House taking naps and working a noon to
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Speaker 1: force schedule. So again, Biden could just straight up decide himself,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna step aside before I'm nominated at the convention.
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Speaker 1: He could be challenged by the way by others who
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Speaker 1: try to win over the delegates that he has accrued,
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Speaker 1: and that would be basically like a coup attempt by
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party internally. Or he could withdraw after the
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Speaker 1: Democratic conventions in Chicago in August, leaving the Democratic National
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Speaker 1: Committee to elect someone.
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Speaker 2: To run against Trump in his place.
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Speaker 1: So those are the real scenarios that are at play here.
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Speaker 1: So the next question is, obviously this happens next, Well,
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Speaker 1: right now, the process largely depends on Joe Biden. So
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Speaker 1: what I would say is, it doesn't really matter what
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Speaker 1: any of the Democrats say.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be up to Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: Now he would have to agree to step down or
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Speaker 1: face a challenger this late in the process, who would
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Speaker 1: then try to force him to then basically get out
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Speaker 1: of the rates. Biden and the team around him so
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Speaker 1: far have shown zero indications except for this meeting with
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Speaker 1: a family, and that could just be to say, hey,
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Speaker 1: we've met, we decided we're going to stick in this thing.
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Speaker 1: But we had a serious meeting to placate some Democrats
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Speaker 1: that are losing their minds. But in reality, every signal
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Speaker 1: is going to Joe Biden is not wanting to step aside,
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Speaker 1: and no opponents have said they would come and challenge
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Speaker 1: him directly at the convention. In fact, there haven't even
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Speaker 1: been leaks of those types of conversations, So that should
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Speaker 1: also tell you something. Now you've got to ask yourself
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Speaker 1: then this question, who would even his top political opponents
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Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party is potential replacements be whether and
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Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for these people.
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you the reality.
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Speaker 1: Number one would be Vice President Kamala Harris. Because she
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Speaker 1: is the Vice President, she's second in line, she's already.
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Speaker 2: Running with him.
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Speaker 1: It would make sense that Kamala Harris would be the nominee.
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Speaker 1: The problem is she's hated by many Democrats and the
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Speaker 1: polling numbers for her are absolutely dismal. So again, she's
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Speaker 1: number one in theory on paper. Then number two would
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Speaker 1: obviously be California Governor Gavin Newsom. The problem with Gavin
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Speaker 1: Newsom is you would be basically replacing an African American
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Speaker 1: woman with a white.
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Speaker 2: Rich dude from California.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's going to go over with
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Speaker 1: minority voters, specifically African Americans and women in the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 1: That's number two now, Gavin Newsom. Just to be clear,
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Speaker 1: and some would say this was him being a good soldier,
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Speaker 1: but he spoke passionately in his defense after the debate,
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Speaker 1: serving as a surrogate role and showcasing his support. Now,
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Speaker 1: he also I think looked really good to Democrats. It
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Speaker 1: saw him because he contrasted what Joe Biden had just done.
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Speaker 2: On stage and was faltering.
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Speaker 1: So one looks crisp and clean and new and energetic
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Speaker 1: in Newsom, and the other looks old seen island. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean lost his dead gumb mine. Now here's the
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Speaker 1: other question. What happens if Joe Biden steps down? He
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Speaker 1: just comes out and says, all right, I'm out. It's
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Speaker 1: a fair question. The answer Biden has spent the last
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Speaker 1: several months accruing about four thousand Democratic delegates by winning
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Speaker 1: primary election in US states and territories. Those delegates would
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Speaker 1: normally vote for him, but the rules do not bind
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Speaker 1: or force them to do so. Delegates of the convention
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Speaker 1: can vote with their conscience, which means they can throw
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Speaker 1: their vote to someone else. So if Biden says, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm releasing the delegates. Okay, all four thousand plus of you,
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Speaker 1: I'm releasing you, and I'm going to release you, and
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Speaker 1: you get to step I'm gonna step aside, then there
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Speaker 1: could be a throwdown competition among other Democratic candidates become
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Speaker 1: the nominee. In theory, at the Democratic Convention that would
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Speaker 1: play out like a movie that could be good or
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Speaker 1: bad for the Democrats, depending on if they do it well.
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Speaker 2: If there's a grand debate.
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Speaker 1: It could help the person coming out of there, or
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Speaker 1: it could completely divide the Democratic Party and ruin their
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Speaker 1: chances come November. It's a very risky game, So that
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Speaker 1: would be the easiest, easiest path. Biden releases the delegates,
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Speaker 1: them stepping aside, and there could.
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Speaker 2: Be a coronation.
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Speaker 1: They could say it's gonna be Kama and that could
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Speaker 1: be the end of that. Or they could say it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be Gavin Newsom, or there could be an all
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Speaker 1: out war. But ultimately it's gonna come down to Biden.
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Speaker 1: In that scenario, who would replace Joe Biden. Several candidates
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Speaker 1: could step into the fray. There is obviously no number one.
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Speaker 1: Kama Harris would be in theory the number one. I
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Speaker 1: mentioned that a moment ago, but she doesn't really She's
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Speaker 1: not really number one because people don't really like her.
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Speaker 1: And so Harris would almost certainly be at the top
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Speaker 1: of the list just because she's the vice president. It's
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Speaker 1: the natural progression of power and the Democratic Party when
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Speaker 1: they ran, it's like, well, she would be a great
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Speaker 1: vice president in case thing happened in the president right,
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Speaker 1: Like it's all there on paper, But she's got her
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Speaker 1: own problems. She's got her own problems at a rocky start.
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Speaker 1: She can't keep people around to work for her. That's
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Speaker 1: another problem. She apparently is impossible to work for the Democrats.
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Speaker 1: Insiders can't stand her and how much of a diva
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Speaker 1: she is, And that's putting it nicely.
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Speaker 2: The turnover in her staff is just horrendous.
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Speaker 1: It's basically like, you get a job working for it's
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Speaker 1: like congratulations if you start sitting out resumes. Yet it's
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Speaker 1: almost like you go to get a job with Kamwa
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Speaker 1: and then you immediately start looking for your next job
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Speaker 1: because you know you're going to want to die if
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Speaker 1: you don't get out of there quickly. Now, let's also
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Speaker 1: talk about what the US Constitution says.
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Speaker 2: All right, this is important.
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Speaker 1: The US Constitution dictates the vice president become president if
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Speaker 1: the president dies.
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Speaker 2: Or becomes incapacitated.
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Speaker 1: But it is not way in on an inner party
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Speaker 1: process for choosing a nominee at the convention. That's why
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Speaker 1: I say it's open season. So let's go through the list,
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Speaker 1: because it is bigger than Kamwa. Harris right on that
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Speaker 1: list California governor. News from that would be I think
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Speaker 1: probably the top of the list, Michigan governor because a
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Speaker 1: lot of people say they want a woman. By golly,
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Speaker 1: they thought it was gonna be Hillary Clinton. Break that
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Speaker 1: glass ceiling, you feminists out there, right, So Michigan Governor,
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Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer, Kentucky Governor Andy Masheer, Illinois governor, it's.
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Speaker 2: J is it in it? JB? Yes? JB. Pritz Kerr.
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Speaker 1: They've all been pushed on social media by Democrats as
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Speaker 1: possible replacements. Now they are Biden supporters and campaign surrogate
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Speaker 1: who are working to help get him elected in theory,
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Speaker 1: until the debate happened this week, and then maybe they
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Speaker 1: were like, all right, I need to start looking out
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Speaker 1: for my own best interests, not his anymore. And so
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Speaker 1: they may be working the phones behind the scenes.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: The next question that people ask is this, so, how
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Speaker 1: would a nominee be chosen?
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Speaker 2: It's a great question. This is how it's gonna work.
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Speaker 1: There would likely be a free for all of sorts
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Speaker 1: between the Democratic heavyweights that were vying for the job.
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Speaker 1: Candidates would have to get signatures from six hundred convention
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Speaker 1: delegates to be nominated. They're expected to be about four thousand,
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Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy two delegates at the Democratic Convention
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Speaker 1: for this year. They're including three thousand, nine and thirty
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Speaker 1: three pledge delegates in seven hundred and thirty nine automatic
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Speaker 1: or super delegates.
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Speaker 2: This is according to the latest numbers that we have.
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Speaker 1: So you got to even get on the ballot. If
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Speaker 1: Biden was a step down, you'd got it. You'd have
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Speaker 1: to go to the convention, you'd have to suck up
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Speaker 1: to a bunch of people, and you'd have to get
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Speaker 1: at least six hundred signatures to be nominated. Now, once
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Speaker 1: you're nominated, you're still short of the majority, right, you
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Speaker 1: just need six hundred to get in the game. I
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Speaker 1: think most of these people will be able to pull
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Speaker 1: that off.
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Speaker 2: Like Gavin News.
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Speaker 1: Would be able to get a lot of those just
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Speaker 1: from California, A Loane Michigan governor. Whitman would be to
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Speaker 1: get a lot from her. Kentucky governor, same thing, Illinois governor,
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Speaker 1: same thing. So you'd go to your home state first
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Speaker 1: and go, hey, nominate me. I need all your signatures,
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Speaker 1: and then you'd find enough. So there's it wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: shocking if all of these people got a shot at.
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Speaker 2: It In theory.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're gonna get close to number needed
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Speaker 1: of delegates actually get the nomination at the convention.
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Speaker 2: Now here's the other part that's very important. So you
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Speaker 2: know how this works.
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Speaker 1: If no one gets a majority of the delegates, then
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Speaker 1: there would be a.
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Speaker 2: Quote broker convention. You may have heard brokeer convention.
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Speaker 1: It was something talked about in twenty sixteen a lot
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Speaker 1: when Donald Trump, they were talking about the possibility of
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Speaker 1: a brokered convention in Cleveland. I was there for that
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Speaker 1: when it was going on. It was insane. Now, what
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Speaker 1: is a brokered convention. It is in which the delegates
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Speaker 1: act as in essence, free agents and negotiate with a
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Speaker 1: party leadership to come up with a nominee. Now there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of backscratching and corruption, you would you could
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Speaker 1: call it that goes on when that happens, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: there's a delegates really important and then what happens is
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Speaker 1: some people they will team up with a and become
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Speaker 1: like a group like Latino delegates or African American delegates,
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Speaker 1: or delegates from New York or delegates from California. Why
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Speaker 1: because there's power numbers, and then it comes down to
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Speaker 1: the bigger issue of hey, what do I get in return?
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Speaker 1: Because I'm now way more important to you than winning
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Speaker 1: a state on Super Tuesday for example. Like, think about
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Speaker 1: the power these four thousand and six and seventy two
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Speaker 1: delegates have if some of them start teaming up into
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Speaker 1: voting box, right, well, I mean there's people that could
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Speaker 1: literally say, hey, if you could, if we give this.
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Speaker 2: To you, I want a job at the White House
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Speaker 2: or at the.
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Speaker 1: DoD or the FBI or the DJ whatever it may be, right,
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Speaker 1: I want to And there's and there's leaders within the
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Speaker 1: group that may bring that group together. And what they
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Speaker 1: may do is they may say, hey, I want to
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Speaker 1: be an ambassador to I don't know, like some amazing
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Speaker 1: country you know where I can just go hang out.
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Speaker 1: I want to go be a you know, open up
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Speaker 1: a consulate somewhere.
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Speaker 2: For example.
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Speaker 1: If I bring you fifteen votes or thirty votes or
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Speaker 1: sixty three votes, right, Delegates, what do I get.
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Speaker 2: In return for that?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: I've heard being the ambassador of Bermuda is really nice.
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Speaker 1: Would love to be an ambassador to a really chill
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Speaker 1: country for example. Now, if no one gets the majority
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Speaker 1: of the delegates, then you have the broker convention.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's a free agents.
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Speaker 1: Now. The rules would be established, by the way, and
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Speaker 1: there would be a rogue call vote for the names
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Speaker 1: placed into the nomination process at the convention. And this
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Speaker 1: gets insane. Why because it could take many rounds of
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Speaker 1: voting for someone to get a majority and become the
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Speaker 1: nominating I remember the House speakership fight that we had
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Speaker 1: recently and how crazy that got. That would look mild
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Speaker 1: in comparison to a broker convention. At the Democratic convention,
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Speaker 1: it would be insane. I've been to several, as I've
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Speaker 1: covered and had to commentate Democrat conventions. Okay, I've never
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Speaker 1: enjoyed going to the Democrat convention because obviously I'm an
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Speaker 1: outsider and they hate me because I'm a hardcore conservative.
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Speaker 1: But I've gone, and I can tell you if there's
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Speaker 1: a broker convention, I actually wish I was going. I
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Speaker 1: have no plans to be a Democratic convention this year,
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Speaker 1: but I'd actually regret not going and saying, all right,
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Speaker 1: I want to go and now do TV from there
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Speaker 1: and radio from there, because it's going to be so insane.
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Speaker 1: Now it could take several rounds. The next question is, hey,
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Speaker 1: when was the last Broker Convention. Well, the last Broker
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Speaker 1: convention when Democrats failed to nominate a candidate on the
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Speaker 1: first ballot was all the way back in nineteen fifty two.
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Speaker 1: So it's been a long time, folks since this has happened.
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Speaker 1: The other question I get asked, is this what happens
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Speaker 1: if Biden's steps down after the convention, not before. If
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Speaker 1: Biden steps down after the August convention, the four hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty five members of the Democratic National Committee would
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Speaker 1: then choose a new candidate. Every one of them becomes
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Speaker 1: very powerful, very quickly. And the same thing that I
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Speaker 1: would expect to happen at the convention with the delegates
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Speaker 1: would happen within these members of the Democratic National Committee
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Speaker 1: because there's going to be a lot of those conversations,
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Speaker 1: what do I get, right, Hey, Gavin, you want my vote?
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Speaker 2: What do I get? Because this is all about power.
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Speaker 1: If you're a member of the Democratic National Committee, you're
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Speaker 1: doing it for personal gain.
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Speaker 2: You're not doing it for like service to your country.
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Speaker 1: Right, You're you clearly are are somebody that wants to
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Speaker 1: be involved in the Democratic Party and you want to
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Speaker 1: be powerful, and that's why you're a member.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is what would happen.
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Speaker 1: The members would all get together, four hundred and thirty
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Speaker 1: five of them, and they would meet in a special session,
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Speaker 1: and then they would select who the nominee would be.
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Speaker 1: Since it was after the convention, so all those delegates
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Speaker 1: of the convention basically would lose all of their power, right,
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Speaker 1: so their leverage is only good up until the end
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Speaker 1: of the convention.
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Speaker 2: Once the convention's over, it's game over. Now.
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Speaker 1: You may say, all right, well, then who the hell
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Speaker 1: are these four hundred and thirty five Democratic National Committee members.
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Speaker 2: Well, the answer simple.
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Speaker 1: They are divided quote equally between men and women because
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Speaker 1: Democratic Party is everything that way right, as well as
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Speaker 1: various constituency groups including labor unions and their leaders, LGBTQIA.
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Speaker 2: Plus plus plus plus.
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Speaker 1: Plus representatives, and racial minorities. Now, of the totals, seventy
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Speaker 1: five of these four hundred and thirty five dnc ME
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Speaker 1: members are pointed at large by the chair, while the
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Speaker 1: rest are elected in their respective state. So the argument
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Speaker 1: would be, hey, we have representation from every state in
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Speaker 1: America and the Democratic Committee. We all are here, Let's
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Speaker 1: decide who are nominees going to be? Now, who could
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Speaker 1: nominate an alternative in that case is the next question, right,
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Speaker 1: if there's a big fight, well, to nominate a candate
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Speaker 1: to replace Biden on the ballot, this is what has
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Speaker 1: to happen.
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Speaker 2: Number one, the person would have to have the support.
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Speaker 1: Of a minimum number of Democratic National Committee members. That
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Speaker 1: number and this is a guest because the number can change,
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Speaker 1: but it's going to be somewhere around at least sixty
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Speaker 1: of the four thirty five. The exact number would be determined,
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Speaker 1: by the way, by the DNC's Rules Committee, which would
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Speaker 1: lay out the rules for the proceedings before they started.
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of just insanity that could happen
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Speaker 1: even there the number that most people believe would be around.
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Speaker 2: The number would be around sixty.
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Speaker 1: There would likely be nominating speeches by anyone that was
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Speaker 1: going to be nominated, and then seconding speeches by people
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Speaker 1: that why they're nominating the person. Now, multiple candidates, by
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Speaker 1: the way, could be nominated before the list is whittled
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Speaker 1: down to the real front runners.
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Speaker 2: I think we all know who's going to be on
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Speaker 2: that short list.
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Speaker 1: And then the other question is, all right, so if
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Speaker 1: we do that, then how do the votes count it?
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Speaker 2: How does that work?
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Speaker 1: The Democrat National Committee would hold its meeting in Washington,
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Speaker 1: they believe, right, based on everything we've been told, and
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Speaker 1: the votes would be counted there, Ballots would be coded,
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Speaker 1: they'd be signed and collected by hand. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: I bet you have to use an ID to make
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Speaker 1: sure you're voting. If not, I'm going to show up
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Speaker 1: just sa I'm a committee member and see if I
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Speaker 1: can vote, because remember Democrats.
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Speaker 2: Don't believe in voter ID voting.
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Speaker 1: But I bet if they're having a Democrat National Committee meeting,
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Speaker 1: you're going to have to show some form of ID
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Speaker 1: before you vote. These are going to be coded, signed,
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Speaker 1: and collected by hand. Now, if a vote were to
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Speaker 1: happen very that happened, were to happen very close to
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Speaker 1: election day, then it gets even more crazy. All right,
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Speaker 1: So election days not ever the fifth because it would
20:16
Speaker 1: not be possible to meet him person. So then the
20:19
Speaker 1: meeting would actually be viral. So you take everything that
20:24
Speaker 1: I just told you into consideration. And what this sounds
20:29
Speaker 1: like to many is this would be And I'm one
20:32
Speaker 1: of those. It's whether I don't I don't care how
20:35
Speaker 1: many Democratic journalists, Okay, I don't care how many editorial
20:45
Speaker 1: boards demand that Joe Biden set down, saying it's time
20:51
Speaker 1: for him to go, that he can't win without Joe
20:54
Speaker 1: Biden doing it himself and walking away.
20:59
Speaker 2: This thing gets.
21:00
Speaker 1: It's really really nasty, Okay, Like, this thing gets nasty,
21:06
Speaker 1: it gets ugly. Not only does it get ugly, but
21:13
Speaker 1: it also I think would divide the party. You'd have
21:18
Speaker 1: a bunch of people screaming race. Okay, You'd have a
21:23
Speaker 1: bunch of people screaming, Kamala Harris deserves this and it's
21:28
Speaker 1: owed this right like that, Like that would be a
21:31
Speaker 1: large part of this, Like they would just say it
21:33
Speaker 1: straight up, like, hold on, we are owed this.
21:35
Speaker 2: She's the one.
21:37
Speaker 1: If you don't pick a woman right then it's I
21:40
Speaker 1: think it could be a huge problem as well, Like
21:42
Speaker 1: a massive problem. So you know, I look at this
21:47
Speaker 1: and what I see is a whole another level of corruption.
21:54
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party would have an infighting that you couldn't
21:58
Speaker 1: even imagine. And I don't believe it would be a
22:01
Speaker 1: coronation at all, Okay, Like I think this would be
22:05
Speaker 1: a drag out, knock down fight that could divide the
22:11
Speaker 1: party seventeen ways to Sunday.
22:14
Speaker 2: That's just my gut. This would be an.
22:18
Speaker 1: Ugly, ugly battle, and then you'd have to sew up
22:23
Speaker 1: the wounds, triage the Democratic Party and then try to
22:27
Speaker 1: get them united all behind a candidate.
22:30
Speaker 2: That would be.
22:31
Speaker 1: Extremely, extremely, extremely tough job. That would be a tough
22:37
Speaker 1: job for anybody. But look, if you're in the if
22:41
Speaker 1: you're a feminist and they pick Gavin Newsom, you're gonna
22:44
Speaker 1: be mad if you think a woman should be present,
22:47
Speaker 1: you think it should be an African American woman, and
22:49
Speaker 1: you should break that glass ceiling, which the Democratic Party
22:52
Speaker 1: is absolutely obsessed with, right like they are. They're obsessed
22:55
Speaker 1: with that, and all of a sudden it doesn't go
22:58
Speaker 1: to Kamwa Harris. I think there's gonna be a lot
23:01
Speaker 1: of African Americans women, specifically the BIC. I'm done, like
23:05
Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm done, I am done with you.
23:10
Speaker 2: I'm gonna Now. Does that mean they're gonna vote for Trump?
23:12
Speaker 2: Of course not. Okay, I don't think they're gonna go
23:15
Speaker 2: vote for Trump. I just think they won't vote.
23:19
Speaker 1: I think they'll just go home or stay home and
23:24
Speaker 1: they'll say I'm done with you, guys. There's also another
23:28
Speaker 1: part right now that's important, and this is the last
23:31
Speaker 1: aspect of this that I'm gonna mention, and that is
23:35
Speaker 1: how much donor fatigue is there right now? How much
23:41
Speaker 1: donor fatigue is there people that have given a lot
23:44
Speaker 1: of money and raised a lot of money and given
23:48
Speaker 1: all this cash to Joe Biden. And then you're basically
23:50
Speaker 1: with a new candidate starting all over. So they're gonna
23:53
Speaker 1: come running to you, going, we need a bunch of money.
23:55
Speaker 1: Are there gonna be a lot of people They're gonna
23:57
Speaker 1: be excited about giving major donation, right is there gonna
24:02
Speaker 1: be a lot of Democrats like yep, No, I'm in
24:04
Speaker 1: for another half a million, I'm in for another one
24:07
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. You know, these super packs have been raising
24:09
Speaker 1: all this money and advocating for Joe Biden. You're gonna
24:14
Speaker 1: start all over, and so when you do, are there
24:19
Speaker 1: going to be a bunch of donors They're willing to
24:21
Speaker 1: go and basically revamp up a new campaign for a
24:26
Speaker 1: new candidate who is in theory way behind Donald Trump.
24:32
Speaker 1: You notice I have not mentioned Donald Trump name until
24:35
Speaker 1: now what forty I mean minutes into this thing.
24:40
Speaker 2: That's how good it is.
24:41
Speaker 1: By the way, for Donald Trump, this is so complicated
24:44
Speaker 1: that his name doesn't even come up until forty minutes
24:46
Speaker 1: into the conversation. Okay, that and Democrats know this, which
24:54
Speaker 1: then brings me to my final play. There's a chance
24:58
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, they could say, let's just try to
25:00
Speaker 1: get him elected, get across the finish line, let's try
25:04
Speaker 1: to do this thing, and then after we elect him,
25:06
Speaker 1: we'll force him to step down. Or the family may
25:09
Speaker 1: say we'll step down now. Whether you believe them or not,
25:13
Speaker 1: that's a different conversation. Okay, whether you believe.
25:16
Speaker 2: Them or not, very very very very very very.
25:19
Speaker 1: Very different conversation. You may not believe them, but that
25:24
Speaker 1: could be their plan. Hey, we'll get him through, we'll
25:27
Speaker 1: try to knock this out, and then maybe he'll resign
25:32
Speaker 1: while in office and the vice president becomes the president.
25:36
Speaker 1: Never underestimate how disgusting and vile these people in the
25:40
Speaker 1: Democratic Party are. You also have to remember their socialists,
25:44
Speaker 1: Communists and Marxists, so they don't really care about like
25:48
Speaker 1: screwing people, Okay, including Joe Biden. And don't think for
25:54
Speaker 1: a moment that Joe Biden doesn't know that either. There's
25:58
Speaker 1: an article about just how bad this and it comes
26:01
Speaker 1: from David Acceroti's mastermind and behind you know Obama campaign,
26:06
Speaker 1: and it actual goes to the story says Biden's age
26:09
Speaker 1: would be a liability if he runs in twenty twenty four.
26:11
Speaker 1: David Axrod says, now, this is from two years ago.
26:15
Speaker 1: On June eleventh, twenty twenty two, it says David Axrod,
26:21
Speaker 1: the chief strategist for former President Barack Obama and in
26:25
Speaker 1: him winning two presidential campaigns, told The New York Times
26:28
Speaker 1: an interview that Biden President Biden's age would be a
26:31
Speaker 1: liability if he runs for a second term in twenty
26:33
Speaker 1: twenty four. In other words, he's like shooting the flare
26:36
Speaker 1: up in the sky. Is a major player in the
26:38
Speaker 1: Democratic Party saying, hey, watch out, this is again two
26:41
Speaker 1: years ago. Why it matters nearing the midterm, some Democrats
26:46
Speaker 1: are growing weary Biden seeking a second term. So this
26:49
Speaker 1: is two years ago, especially given that former President Trump
26:51
Speaker 1: may seek to return to the White House. The Times
26:53
Speaker 1: reports Biden has said that he intends to run in
26:56
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, with Vice President Kamala Harris as his
26:59
Speaker 1: running eight, if he remains in good health and if
27:03
Speaker 1: his predecessor runs again. Which explains so much about this mentality.
27:08
Speaker 1: There is a psychoticness to Joe Biden. There's also just
27:13
Speaker 1: a straight up narcissistic lying aspect of Joe Biden. Joe Biden,
27:19
Speaker 1: I think is running again because Donald Trump's running again,
27:22
Speaker 1: and he wants this war like he wants it, folks,
27:27
Speaker 1: like he wants this war, and he hates him, and
27:31
Speaker 1: he's obsessed with him, and he wants to beat him,
27:33
Speaker 1: and he believes that this is probably the best way
27:36
Speaker 1: to pull that off. All right, So just understand that's
27:39
Speaker 1: driving I think a major aspect of this conversation. But
27:45
Speaker 1: let me also go back to the media for a moment.
27:48
Speaker 1: The media has been lying to you. Okay, they've been
27:51
Speaker 1: lying to you for a long time. The media has
27:54
Speaker 1: the are the ones that have been saying to you over
27:56
Speaker 1: and over again for at least the last couple of
27:59
Speaker 1: years years. Hardcore, don't believe your lying eyes. Biden's brain
28:03
Speaker 1: is sharper than ever. Biden, doesn't you know, Fritz out.
28:06
Speaker 1: His brain doesn't shut down like we all witness the
28:09
Speaker 1: other night during the debate.
28:10
Speaker 2: They lied to you. We've got a montage.
28:13
Speaker 4: Listen the truth and that few If you can't handle
28:17
Speaker 4: the truth, this version of Biden is the best Biden.
28:22
Speaker 5: Ever he knows so long as he was.
28:26
Speaker 2: In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.
28:29
Speaker 3: President. Biden has a photographic memory. His understanding and mastery
28:34
Speaker 3: of a complicated geopolitical situation remarkable.
28:38
Speaker 6: He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.
28:44
Speaker 5: Jackie, you hear rus Jackie, I think she was here.
28:48
Speaker 1: I was sitting, you know, a two feet from him
28:51
Speaker 1: across the.
28:52
Speaker 2: Table, and he was, you know, intense. It's got trouble.
28:55
Speaker 4: Walking sometimes, Yeah, so did that pr he wanted gd war.
28:59
Speaker 2: But he's totally focus. He's very sharp.
29:01
Speaker 4: They say he's sharp in meetings and so on.
29:03
Speaker 6: Very lucid, little, very well done for him.
29:05
Speaker 2: Biden's stately. He comes with gravitas.
29:07
Speaker 6: There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single
29:10
Speaker 6: claim that Biden made a mistake. Agism is an issue.
29:15
Speaker 6: Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical characteristics
29:19
Speaker 6: against them. Okay, you can ask African Americans.
29:22
Speaker 4: He's older.
29:23
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that he is unfit.
29:25
Speaker 6: And there's a lot of ages in.
29:27
Speaker 3: There now, this age attack, this obsession by.
29:29
Speaker 4: The right, Joe Biden may not be able to speak
29:32
Speaker 4: for himself the way that he used to.
29:33
Speaker 6: They want to to take on government if we get
29:36
Speaker 6: out of line, which they're talking on again about, and
29:40
Speaker 6: that's him lying around. I think people should be speaking
29:43
Speaker 6: up for Joe Biden. Americans and reporters in the media
29:46
Speaker 6: are just judging him by a physical appearance, and it's
29:49
Speaker 6: for the unfair age is an ascent.
29:52
Speaker 2: He showed exactly how with it he is.
29:55
Speaker 3: The flip side of this coin is that he has
29:56
Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience.
30:00
Speaker 6: Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met
30:03
Speaker 6: with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?
30:07
Speaker 4: No more wild speculation from a bunch of people who
30:10
Speaker 4: have probably never been in a room with Joe Biden
30:12
Speaker 4: and certainly don't have medical degrees that I'm aware of.
30:14
Speaker 3: If you don't get paid for performance to be president,
30:17
Speaker 3: you don't. The job is not a job of endurance.
30:21
Speaker 3: I don't see Donald Trump out by riding like Joe Biden.
30:24
Speaker 4: It's the Hillary's email.
30:25
Speaker 5: All they have is that he's a He can clear
30:27
Speaker 5: a dementia bar and that's probably a win.
30:30
Speaker 6: The media are not fair, and they're getting less and
30:33
Speaker 6: less fair, and things are frightening.
30:35
Speaker 3: You have.
30:37
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal running a horribly sourced piece saying that
30:40
Speaker 2: Biden is unfited.
30:41
Speaker 4: 'bus Wall Street General report about the president's acuity.
30:44
Speaker 1: Shoddy story by the Wall Street Journal questioning Biden's mental fitness.
30:49
Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal story had a lot of flaws, as
30:51
Speaker 6: you said. But Sinclair, they didn't do any original reporting,
30:55
Speaker 6: they didn't follow up, they didn't do any work.
30:57
Speaker 5: Here the day is hersh gover poling, and still he
31:02
Speaker 5: is not here with us, but he's still being held
31:04
Speaker 5: by a moat.
31:05
Speaker 4: But a huge part of the Mulla report talks about
31:07
Speaker 4: Russian disinformation tactics, and one of the things this election
31:11
Speaker 4: cycle is that Joe Biden is too old to lead,
31:13
Speaker 4: and so everyone is seizing upon this and it is
31:16
Speaker 4: a classic disinformation tactic. And I think the best thing
31:19
Speaker 4: that we can do is to prepare the American people
31:21
Speaker 4: for this false narrative.
31:23
Speaker 1: I mean, these people are just flat out scumbags. They
31:28
Speaker 1: are just scum bags, and they will sit there and
31:33
Speaker 1: they will lie, and they will cover up, and they
31:36
Speaker 1: will lie when the Democratic Party needs them to. Whether
31:38
Speaker 1: it's the Steele dossier, whether it's the Hunter Biden laptop,
31:43
Speaker 1: whether it's Russian collusion. They will lie and they will
31:47
Speaker 1: look at you in your face and they will lie
31:49
Speaker 1: to your face and they will tell you, no, no, it's
31:51
Speaker 1: not raining outside, even though it's like a hurricane outside. Now, No, no,
31:55
Speaker 1: it's sunny outside. Like they will carry water for this guy,
31:59
Speaker 1: Joe Biden until they couldn't. And now they're worried about
32:03
Speaker 1: losing power, and they're they're they're worried about losing their
32:10
Speaker 1: access to power. So now they're saying, Okay, let's pick
32:15
Speaker 1: the next king so we have access to power moving forward.
32:19
Speaker 1: And they've known the entire time they're lying to you.
32:23
Speaker 1: They've known it the entire time they've been lying to you.
32:29
Speaker 1: They knew they were lying to you every second they
32:32
Speaker 1: were telling you this crap. They knew that they were
32:36
Speaker 1: full of it, and they were good with it. Folks,
32:39
Speaker 1: they get off on it. This is like their pride
32:43
Speaker 1: and joy picking and choosing who they believe should be
32:47
Speaker 1: the president of the United States America and power brokering
32:50
Speaker 1: it right like I mean, it's it is and you
32:56
Speaker 1: play that and by the way, it should be played
32:58
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over and
33:00
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again.
33:04
Speaker 2: It should be.
33:05
Speaker 5: It should be played over and over again, and the
33:09
Speaker 5: reason why is because these scumbags deserve, in my opinion,
33:15
Speaker 5: to be held accountable for this.
33:18
Speaker 2: All right.
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