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"Barber to the stars," Kelvin Truitt on following his passion and pivoting during the pandemic. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: call industry to decision makers. My next guest is Calvin
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  Speaker 1: Truett True it is a barber to the stars. You
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  Speaker 1: of a very popular open mic for expiring and established
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  Speaker 1: artists in Hollywood. Hollywoo Kevin's clients have included I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: from the hair standpoint because I can't talk back in
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  Speaker 1: the day. I used to have a barber like Calvin,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I've lost a lot of hair, so
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  Speaker 1: I just talked to my barber all the time now Commons.
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  Speaker 1: One of the clients Cigarette Leonard, Wayne Brady, David or Yellowa,
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin, the Golden State War, who Golden State War,
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  Speaker 1: Amber Riley from Glelee from Glee, Dwayne Brown at Officer
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  Speaker 1: Tackles Seattle, Big Old Boy Sitting in That Chail, and
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  Speaker 1: comedian Karen Hart. To its first Friday's monthly open mic Night.
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  Speaker 1: Artists have included Jordan's Sparks, Common Alvonna, Kenny Lattimore, Gary Brower,
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  Speaker 1: d One and El Gibbards and My Girl Yvonne Orgy
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  Speaker 1: from Insecure. Kevin fell in love with country music, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling that's the whole thing. He in California now
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  Speaker 1: to one thing. I will understand that California here talking
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  Speaker 1: about country western music. I'm from hut In, Texas, so
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that now. In college, doing his
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  Speaker 1: long drive to visit his family. As a strong spiritual
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  Speaker 1: leader in his community. He aims to use his unique
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  Speaker 1: sound and approach to heal and empower others because he's
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  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur too. As he shares his own life struggles
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  Speaker 1: and transitions. He's got a reason to sing, y'all and
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  Speaker 1: Please working the money making conversation, my man, Calvin TRUITTT
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing, sir? And I'm doing wonderful man.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me and to the
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  Speaker 1: audience of money making Conversations, that's great to people. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, you know Calvin and entrepreneur to my
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  Speaker 1: understand cutting their my little backstory, my love my younger brother.
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  Speaker 1: He spent time in the military. He lives in Washington, DC,
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  Speaker 1: has four barber and beauty st laws in the DC area.
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  Speaker 1: So and when COVID hit man, who you know, brother,
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  Speaker 1: you know I like to do is pray for him,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And then he had to set up all
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  Speaker 1: these separation curtiness and plastics in this business and had
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  Speaker 1: the way to get permission because because that type of
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  Speaker 1: business was hit the hardest, because you had such a
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  Speaker 1: close relationship with your clients. Tell us about you in
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  Speaker 1: the beauty and Barbara business. Tell us about that transition
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  Speaker 1: that hit your business so hard. When I say transition,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about COVID and ainteen pandemic. Tell us about this.
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  Speaker 1: Welk us back to that a few few months back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So at that at that point of time, I was
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  Speaker 1: in the in the management and ownership uh position in
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  Speaker 1: my company. So um, I had it. I had it
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  Speaker 1: made in terms of what most Barbara entrepreneurs want, which
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  Speaker 1: is that the shops are running themselves because barbers are thriving,
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  Speaker 1: the clients are happy. Um. And when pandemic hit, I
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  Speaker 1: was told we have to shut down indefinitely and that
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  Speaker 1: we had to stay six ft apart. As you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's impossible to cut someone's hair from six ft away.
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  Speaker 1: And what that did. It put me in a unique
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  Speaker 1: position the because um, my finances was affected, my passive income.
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  Speaker 1: I was used to going to the shops and picking
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  Speaker 1: up the booth rent and um, you know, it presented
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  Speaker 1: a moral challenge for me. Do I still charge people
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  Speaker 1: boothrint for a booth that they cannot use? And in
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  Speaker 1: my case the answer was no. I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 1: it was right. Um, and it cost me a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money. It cost me to shut down a few locations.
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  Speaker 1: It cost me to reconsider how I showed up in
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  Speaker 1: the industry at all, because UM, I felt their pain.
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  Speaker 1: I was, I stood behind a chair for nineteen years myself,
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  Speaker 1: and UM to have to pay for a chair that
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  Speaker 1: you can't use due to the pandemic and to be
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  Speaker 1: charged forward to me, it just was, like I said, morally, uh,
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  Speaker 1: not right to collect from something that I knew couldn't
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  Speaker 1: be used. So after a few months of that, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm collecting zero, but the landlords at the properties, they
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  Speaker 1: still needed to collect everything. And so it affected my pockets. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And it affected me mentally too because what I once was,
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  Speaker 1: um I wasn't that anymore, you know. And yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: it was a difficult challenge, and you know, I definitely
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  Speaker 1: salute your brother who and many others in this industry
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  Speaker 1: that had to make those quick adjustments to continue to
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  Speaker 1: serve the public. And then it kept changing, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So this week it was capacity, next
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  Speaker 1: week it was, um you have to have up all
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  Speaker 1: these partitions and and separating devices and cleaning protocol that
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  Speaker 1: the owners had to spend money on. You know, and
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  Speaker 1: that money just didn't appear. You know, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people had to make sacrifices um to get those things
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  Speaker 1: done in hopes of keeping their business running. And then
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  Speaker 1: the business the laws are changed again and it goes
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  Speaker 1: into five percent capacity to no indoor activity in shops
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  Speaker 1: around the nation were putting chairs on the on the
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  Speaker 1: outside of their premises. But the barbershop culture I come from, man,
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  Speaker 1: people don't pay you to cut the hair outside. You know.
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  Speaker 1: They pay for the comfort, they pay for the camaraderie,
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  Speaker 1: they pay for the air conditioning. Even the barbers like,
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  Speaker 1: how can I charge them money to cut outside? They
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  Speaker 1: don't even electricity. So it's a very difficult transition, but
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  Speaker 1: but we made it, you know absolutely. I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Truitt, the celebrity barber to the Stars, entrepreneur media host.
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  Speaker 1: You know. You know the interesting thing about being a barber,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, I've lived in life. I can still
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  Speaker 1: remember my first hair cut when my dadd said me down,
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  Speaker 1: got the Ivory lead. That's what I got because all
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  Speaker 1: my hair off, you know a little but you can
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  Speaker 1: just see your little hair left. That was my first
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  Speaker 1: first hair cut. To you guy, that got my little
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  Speaker 1: part right there, I would look good, got out that chair.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, you can tell me nothing. Can we have
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  Speaker 1: my little part? I want that part probably all the
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  Speaker 1: way through middle school if I realized I was tired
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  Speaker 1: of that part in my half. But but you know that,
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  Speaker 1: But really being a barber in general, because now you
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  Speaker 1: went to management that had to be uh, that's a
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  Speaker 1: good for your career, but you still lost some of
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  Speaker 1: that camaraderie, that spotlight, that interaction. Talk about that transition
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you can you can rise in success,
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  Speaker 1: but you can lose something socially as well. Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: And so there's a scripture that comes to mind. Um,
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  Speaker 1: like my faith practice has been Christian, and so I'll
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  Speaker 1: read the Bible and Jesus talks about these parables and
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  Speaker 1: one of them is in the vineyard right where the
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  Speaker 1: person who plants the vineyard doesn't actually work the vineyard,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You plant and you leave
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  Speaker 1: space for others to come in and and and work,
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  Speaker 1: work and receive the benefits of the vineyard. And so
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  Speaker 1: when I really understood that, it became the primary difference
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  Speaker 1: between being a business owner and being self employed. Being
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  Speaker 1: self employed meant that I worked in the venue, I
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  Speaker 1: owned it, and I worked in. Being a business owner
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  Speaker 1: meant that I planet the veneer and I empower others
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  Speaker 1: to work and to the soil of that ground. So
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  Speaker 1: what it meant for me was another It meant the
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  Speaker 1: level up for my UM, for my business pursuit. But
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  Speaker 1: it did cost me social capital. It costs relationships. It
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  Speaker 1: cost you know, your client, you've been cutting for ten years.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's calling on you and you are not available,
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  Speaker 1: um to do that part of what you do anymore,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And so it does cost you. For me,
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  Speaker 1: there were friendships that were built over the of the
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  Speaker 1: barber share, you know. And so when I transition to
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  Speaker 1: no longer standing behind the chair, UM, sometimes if the
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  Speaker 1: friendship was injured. UM. And now I'm at a point
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  Speaker 1: where so I still cut hair on the side and
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  Speaker 1: still serving um the clients, and and now I'm doing music,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm having to face that kind of intersection where
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  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we love you, we especially love you
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  Speaker 1: cutting our hair, you know, And and it's it's hard
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  Speaker 1: from times. It takes a lot of bravery on my
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  Speaker 1: part and a lot of acceptance, UM to just say
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  Speaker 1: I'm choosing to live the life I want to live. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that's uh, it's important to you. That's important to you.
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  Speaker 1: It's important to me that everybody needed to do something.
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  Speaker 1: Calvin and I I you know, I'm gonna tell you
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  Speaker 1: some The only time I cut hair man, I was
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  Speaker 1: pleasure to make us at fire and then tell the man.
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  Speaker 1: The big brother came to me, man said cut my hat.
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  Speaker 1: You know, brother, I'm tell the man. My My hand
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  Speaker 1: was shaking so hard because you know that edge line
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  Speaker 1: that that's the key to a great barber. Man, that
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  Speaker 1: edge line you know that separates you, and that's that's
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  Speaker 1: where you that's where the game changes. I think when
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: you start talking about good barbers and great barbers, just
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  Speaker 1: that is how you add that create those edge line
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  Speaker 1: what really makes a great barber. I guess I should
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  Speaker 1: ask you that careful because you you get a reputation
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  Speaker 1: and then people go, man, he cuts because you there
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  Speaker 1: is a difference now. But I'm a step back and
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  Speaker 1: just tell you about my bad experience didn't go well
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  Speaker 1: because I was I was pledging and I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to cut a big brother who really did can't think
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  Speaker 1: about me. So I never was gonna win in a
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  Speaker 1: haircut business. And I shouldn't have been trying to cut
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  Speaker 1: it that anyway, but they asked me to. But you
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  Speaker 1: are a great barber. What makes a great barber? And
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  Speaker 1: what makes it? What? What? What? What? There like three
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  Speaker 1: or two or three things that can really set you
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  Speaker 1: apart in that barber's chair. Okay, So, UM, for me,
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  Speaker 1: what makes a great barber is consistency. Can't you do
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  Speaker 1: what I like every single time I come to see you? Right? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: When each client feels that and you consistent, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what makes a great barber. Um. A good barber
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  Speaker 1: is going to have the ability to execute a haircut
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  Speaker 1: and yo, they're good, but great. It's like Yo, every
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  Speaker 1: single time I come to see Kelvin and in my case,
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  Speaker 1: each a line, it's consistently the same quality. Um. Some
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  Speaker 1: tips that I feel like setting me a part is speed. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I've worked in like you mentioned earlier, with high profile
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  Speaker 1: clients and some of the biggest moments of their careers.
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  Speaker 1: So oftentimes I have fifteen minutes to do what I
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  Speaker 1: do best. I don't have the luxury of the forty
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  Speaker 1: five minutes. So to deliver my product consistently in a
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  Speaker 1: short amount of time. I've really developed my speed to
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  Speaker 1: where we do have an interaction, we do have um
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  Speaker 1: a high quality grooming experience, and we also only have
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  Speaker 1: this short amount of time. Also, what sets me apart
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  Speaker 1: for the rest is, hey, a twenty minutes man. We
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  Speaker 1: got an opportunity to do something really impactful for me.
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  Speaker 1: It's been speed UM or others is how you, um
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  Speaker 1: may enhance a client's look. I don't know who's cutting
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Rose here, but let me tell you it was
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  Speaker 1: a clear difference on TV. Every day I watched ESP
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  Speaker 1: it was a clear difference when the barber changed because
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  Speaker 1: they enhanced his look. Um and to believe that it
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  Speaker 1: that it bore more than age lines powerful, powerful and
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  Speaker 1: and and it's a different power than I felt before
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  Speaker 1: changing of the of the guards. You know. And there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of barber's I respect across
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  Speaker 1: the country that are doing that and bringing their unique
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  Speaker 1: abilities into the barber in industry to make it one
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  Speaker 1: that's appreciated in value. Oh you know the thing about it, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was a stand up comedian, so I
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  Speaker 1: was traveling all over this country. You know, Pittsburgh got
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  Speaker 1: my head cutting Pittsburgh Cleveland, New York, Florida, Georgia, Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: All barbers are not created equal. I'm just telling you
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  Speaker 1: all that right now. They're not create equal. Some of
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  Speaker 1: them talk too much, some of them don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to give you an edge. Some of them don't you
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  Speaker 1: don't know the different type of hairstyles and all that stuff. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the one thing I don't like it's a barber that
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  Speaker 1: talks too much. I just want to get in that chair, kill,
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  Speaker 1: get my hair cut. I don't mind a little chatter,
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  Speaker 1: little chatter, but just just gonna get when I said,
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  Speaker 1: talking to other people, people sitting in the chair, showing
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  Speaker 1: me personal attention. That really is important when you sit
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  Speaker 1: in that chair, because I know we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: other things. But because you are celebrity barber, you know
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: there are certain rules to be in a great barber,
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  Speaker 1: and one of them is focused on the client. Focus
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  Speaker 1: on the client, yes, sir, and and and and pretty
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  Speaker 1: much understanding what their unique needs are. So you're a kid,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, hey, speed is a pop party for me?
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  Speaker 1: My clients, Um that uh that that's not the case
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  Speaker 1: where they do want the connection. This is there one
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  Speaker 1: time the one that that where they don't have a
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  Speaker 1: camera in their face. This the one time that they
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  Speaker 1: get to connect with somebody and sit still without doing
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  Speaker 1: what it is that they do. So it's important for
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  Speaker 1: me to not just come in and and just get
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  Speaker 1: through the cut, but to get them that personal connection,
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  Speaker 1: that brotherhood. If you, um, I bring up my my
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  Speaker 1: I call him my brother, my friend coming. Um. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times, man, we break bread as friends
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  Speaker 1: over their haircut. So and then there's also times where
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  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we gotta get this cut done and
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  Speaker 1: get out of here or get him ready for a stage. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, my job is to come in and
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  Speaker 1: really evaluate and take his temperature on what his highest
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  Speaker 1: needs are that day. Wouldn't make sense for me to
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  Speaker 1: come in, um when he needs social wood encounter. Would
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  Speaker 1: make sense for me to come in and give him
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  Speaker 1: a quick cut, or if he needs a quick cut,
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  Speaker 1: for me to come in and tell him about all
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  Speaker 1: of this stuff that I could wait for a later time.
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  Speaker 1: So understanding that and giving that consistent product, that consistent
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  Speaker 1: experience while giving a client what they need. But you're
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  Speaker 1: right that talking too much stuff, um, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: you stend up comedian for real I have. I have
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  Speaker 1: some stand up comedians that I've encountered that cut heir
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  Speaker 1: would be like, no one signed up for the show,
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  Speaker 1: no one bought tickets, right, but they do want a haircut. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: Now let's return to money making conversation with Rashan McDonald.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Let's turn. Let's slide on over to the music man,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you know, because you I love the fact that was
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial side of you. But then let's go slide
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to the entertainment side, because we also want to talk
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: about the spiritual side of you, because that all connects
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: because of faith drives you and also can keep you focused.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: But the country music side of you, because whenever I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: hear country music, you know, I always hear about I'm
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, so I'm always to Texas, you know, Oklahoma, Tennessee,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Georgia type country western person. But that's not how you
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: fell in love with country western. You were on the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: West coast, fell in love with country and western. Talk
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: about how that connection came about and how is it
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: driving your success as an entertainer in one sir, Uh,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that's a great question, loaded one as well. UM. I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: would drive from l A to Sacramento, which is probably
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: by a six hour drive. Um. During my early years
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of college, I was the first person my family to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: attend a four year university and move away from home
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and do that. But my roots came from home. UM.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I would drive home to see my parents. I would
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: drive home to hang with my friends to recharge because
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I was in a whole new city, and those drives
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: got longer and longer. So I would, you know, go
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: through the radio station and I found myself consistently on
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the country radio stations through these little kind of central
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: California towns, and they had some really good country stuff,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and I found myself singing the songs. But I, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: like you said, I'm from the West Coast, so I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: try to when I'm singing in the shower, I sing
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it with a little swag on it, you know, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: sing it. You know, I would it beat this a
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: little bit more clear. And but the stories really impacted
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: my life. I said, I want to have that type
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: of impact because I was not that I wanted to
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: be if I did anything in music, I wanted to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: be a rapper, right, A lot of people singing the shower.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Not when I was a kid, I used to wrap
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: in the shower. I used to do out battles in
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Sacramento and lunchtime like, uh, you know, I was a
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: hunchline rappers. So, um, if he can captivate a person
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like me, um, with that music palette, with these stories,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: when I had this deep passion in my heart to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: do music through my life's circumstances, you know, Um, I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: went to a genre that had impacted me most. I've
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: heard plenty of great rap albums, so many R B
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: as my jam I can, but it wasn't my life experience.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So I wasn't connecting to the music I loved the most.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I was drawn to the stuff that impacted me the most,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and that was in the country genre. You know. So
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it, um now, I'm doing it in a
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: way that I wish I could have heard it, you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know, just you say this
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: because I remember because Steve Harving I was doing radio
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and the beat name is two point three you back
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: in two thousand, That's when we came on the air
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: there and at the same time, that's when Nearly popped out,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, you know, And so I was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I always felt he was a country artist, you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: even but they just threw him and raped and believe me,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: made lot of money. Is a wrapper. Now he slid
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: back to where I think his true roots are country
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: country music, and he's bringing a lot of people in
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that lane. And then uh nasacks, you know, he he's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: doing his thing and uh and but when when you
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: when you look at what you're trying to do as
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a as a potential artist, you know, doeses what Nellie
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: does has done and what you see in the transition
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: to the acceptance of African American talent in the genre
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: of country Western. Is it just the right time for
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you to step out there and do your music? Do
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you if you can feel comfortable that's gonna be accepted
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: not by just the black community of the young community,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: but the country and western country music community. I should
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: say yeah for sure. And I'm so glad you brought
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: up Nellie Man. I want to work with Nellie Um.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I look forward to collaborating with him. But he was
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: one of the people that really made it cool to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: um to just embrace what you like. That's the country
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: country grammar album. The way he's saying with everything, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: when what he's doing now he's bringing other artists, Yeah, came,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: come on, kay killing right now? Man. And then Mickey Guidon, Um,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Willie Jones Jr. These are
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: all black people, black faces that's doing the music in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: a way that's right for them. And so it opened
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: up the door for me to be just a little
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: bit more bold about it and just say, hey, you know, um,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I want to sing my song. You know, I wanna
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I wanna do that, but I think Nellie is a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: gatekeeper for black country artists in general who want to
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: do mainstream music in a in a in a way
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that's not traditionally done by black artists. So man a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: hund percent, Yes, I salute Nellie um and you know, y'all,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: y'all look out for when me and Nellie put this
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: record together. It's gonna I'm all good with you. Like
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, my whole thing is that I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: just don't want to just be wanted two. I want
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to be a lot, you know what I'm saying, because always,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I go all the way back to Charlie
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Pryde when the only black man and out to music.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And like I said, when
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Nelly came out, you know, of course he's record labels.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: They're just put you where they feel your sound fits,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they put it on
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a rapper. Nell It should have been Cunt your way
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: back in two thousand one. Okay, his old country country
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Grabma album should have been dropped as a country a
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: country music and is changing too, you know, But I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: think you're right. I think I think you're right because
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: in today's industry. That Country Grab Him album probably would
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: have would win the Album of the Year absolutely absolutely.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Guess what, then he becomes even international star. He's not
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: labeled as a black artist. And guess what, he's starting
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to get that now because he's headlining tours with with
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: other artists. I think was the Alps. It was at Florida,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Alabama line What's the boys that they did that single
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: with they blew up but there it's really a great
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: sound when I look at what you're trying to do.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: But what's the ultimate goal? Man? You know, you're still
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in the entrepreneur management business of these successful barbershops in California.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Now you've got this open my you know, so now
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you're not only uh you know. I think that that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: what I was saying, that you kind of missed that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: experience of being a barber in a barbershop, and that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: gets filled with your open mic because you really get
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to talk, get to exchange your conversation and also participate
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: in the social environment where you're entertaining people. Tell us
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: about that open mic that's in Los Angeles and where
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: is it located. Yes, so it's called My First Fridays
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and it's in Lake Babola, California. It started actually started
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: um in the barbershop, in the flagship location of the barbershop,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: where we will move the chairs out of the way. Um.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I was playing base for church at the times. We
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: had all my equipment in there, and me and my band.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: We get in there and artists will come, they jam
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: out with us, and that thing developed. So First Fridays
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: has been going on for now. It will be twenty
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: one years in September. You know that we've been we've
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: been doing that effort. Um. But that social capital that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I missed you then because I was in the l
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: A Man the one years I was in l A.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Two thous was in l A five. How I miss you,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Calvin two thousand fold Man was right here in the valley.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Man was right here in the valley when he started.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Man And uh, I don't know, Man, I'm so sorry, sorry,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I miss you. I heard you on the radio. I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: still hear you on the radio, absolutely Man. Steve would dominating. Man,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I missed you may dominating and uh,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And it was it was shifting black culture. I remember
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: one of my primary goals was to get a Hoodie
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Award you know. But but because I was looking towards um,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: towards black men, towards black male leadership, was doing it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: recognizing the unsung heroes. And so that's what I felt like.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I feel pride to cut people's hair and to send
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: them into the world on their platforms with with with
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: my work. You know. Yeah, they got all this content,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I all this need for content. Not Calvin out there.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Why don't we see this on a special on HBO
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Max or Amazon Prime special this First Fridays. Yeah, let's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: let's produce it. You know. Um, there has been a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: few opportunities over the years, um to do it. Um
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: one was was was bigger than than most and uh
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it just the business didn't work out. But then I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: think it was year before last Damon Dash did a
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: show called The Next Big Thing and he came to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: l A. They shot at my place where First Fridays
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: takes place. They utilized the platform. Um so that was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: on on bt UM. Jonathan mc reynolds and Molly Music Music,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: both of my boys. Yeah, so the Molly and Johnny Tour,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: we were one of their virtual locations that were shot
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: where we shoot First Fridays at and Molly was one
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: of the artists who would come and just sing it
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: first Fridays, so he bringing. Uh, you know, everybody kind
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of comes back. UM, A lot of us here in
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the l A. We call that the home court, so
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: we want at home advantage. We produced content from there,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Kenny Lottimore during pandemic major um who was artists as well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you know, charting songs, film content there. Uh. Last Christmas
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: or Christmas before last, Holly Berry came through the doors.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Uh and it was just like all of the work
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: that we've done, um over these last twenty years have
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: just been incredible. And now I'm expanding that work in
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a new way to where I'm not just behind the production,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: but I'm also behind the microphone, sharing my stories of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: healing and um you know, and of triumph to to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to everywhere. The reason I do music, it's the same
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: reason I cut heir, you know, UM, I really want
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to touch the people that change the world. And I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: know my music brings healing to little black boys who
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: don't feel like they're enough. Well, what I like about
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: your man is that you know they have multiple levels
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of into income, multiple levels of entertainment. I always tell people,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: when you focus on one dream. You should have many
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: layers in that dream. And I like that and that's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: why I do want to make a conversations so people
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: can tell their stories. Because people can just see you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: as the hold the first Fridays. No, no, No, he's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: more than that. They can just hear your whole conversation
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: about doing country music and you're one of your first
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: love No, he's more than that. They can hear your
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: story about you just being an entrepreneur. You know where
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you got these barber chains and you once was a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: barber and you started your first Fridays there twenty one
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: years ago. When you look at all these things, how
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: do you compartmentalize being able to be successful in all
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: these different lanes, plus your spirit and the ability to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: motivate people to be successful through who you are. Calvin, Yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I try to. I try to consolidate it all to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: UH to service. You know. I think my greatest UH
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: calling is has been to serve my fellow man in
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: in in this life. You know, since I was a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: little boy, you know, uh, I used to I started
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: my haircut business when I was like ten years old.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I used to cut lines. I used to cut people's grass,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't hear my slogans if you can grow it,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I can cut it. You know. It's just something that
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: felt felt good to me to be able to, uh,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to do something that that people were either that they
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: were willing to pay me for, you know. And the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the storylines of the guys I looked up to in
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: my neighborhood, they were they were getting killed, they were
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: going to jail. And I had this this skill to
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to cut stuff and make it look good, you know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So in essence, it kind of put my life on
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a different path. And and I keep sitting here in
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that same message that reverb playing in my life, even
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: through my music, through my ministry, through my service to
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the public. Um So I kind of consolidated all to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: one thing, is that hey, and my serving and my
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: serving humanity and the best way that I can and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: you know, basically as God pleased with what I'm doing.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: And it does change from times. Sometimes it changed by
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the day I got somebody's here right after this interview,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you know, and then I got to jump on another
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: call to promote the upcoming release of my of my
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: music and all of that, man, I believe is in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: service to my highest purpose, which is to you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to to help my fellow man and to receive that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: help and love in comaraderie that come when we when
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: we just show up authentically and take up a lot
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of space. So I'm gonna be big, you know, and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I want to leave big impact along the way. Well,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: as we close, let's talk about the release of your music.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Tell us where we can find it, tell us the uh,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the whole are you shooting videos each which one it releases,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: how you're doing it so we can wrap it up
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: on the high note about your brand. See, I love
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that the whole concept of what you're trying to do.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: But it also is key that you know you keep
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: doing first Fridays. You know, you keep cutting hair, you know,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: all of just I always tell people I remember October one.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I always that they mean something to me because I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: asked God. I said, allow me to take advantage of
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: all my talents, and I will give you one, sir.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: You know, seriously, I said, I will not sleep on it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I will not if you if you tell me the write,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna right. You tell me to manage somebody, I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: give a d percent that wherever you put me I'm
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: gonna give a hundred percent and a lot of people do.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: They always say, man, you just love what you do
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: because he gave me an opportunity to do it. And
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I told him, if he gave me an opportunity to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: do it, I would give. And so keep giving. One.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: As we closed, let's talk about that music that you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: give to you, sir. So, the upcoming release of my
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: song Opposite is happening on December four, um, which is uh,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you know, by six days from now. UM. It's a
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: significant moment for me. It's also my fortieth birthday and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm devoted for for uh in my forties, man to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to show up in the world authentically. UM. I struggled
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: with a lot of things and my song Opposite is
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: just like you. UM. It's where I got before God,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and I asked God to change me and to give
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: me strength to do the opposite of a destructive path
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that I was going to take my cell phone at
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the you know, on the heels of adversity. UM. You
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: know I've been and I almost volted, but God gave
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: me strength to do the opposite. I want people to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: know that. So December four, on all platforms, it is
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a music video as well as a high quality, polished
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: master copy of the recording. UM you Know vocally performed
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: by me, co wrote the song with Grammy nominated uh
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: A singer and artist my brother Mr Eric Bellinger. So
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: we're putting all the momentum that we had around this.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I'm going home to my hometown and Sacramento to do
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the release concerts, So you'll see all over my social
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: media UM as well as other platforms. But December four,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it's called Opposite Kelvin Trud available on all platforms off
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: streaming platforms Apple Music, iTunes, Spotify, if they play music there,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you'll be able to find me there. Man. So I'm
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: really happy to share this message with you guys. Kelvin
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Truyd When I did this opening credit, I said, he's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a barber to the stars. He's an interior designer, creative director,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: hosts of a popular open mic for expiring and established
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: stars stars called First Friday. What I forgot to say?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Rising star in the music business, Calvin, thank you for
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: coming on money making a conversation. Thank you so much
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: for having me. God bless you guys. Hey, I gotta
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: come out for one of those First Friday or two
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: because I come out to l a like three times
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: every quarter, so I gotta make sure I come in
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: on the Thursday so I could be there on the Friday. Okay,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: we don't Friday. And when you close it, I want
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you to close it. I used to close out my
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: mornings on the Steve Harvey Morner Show when you say, man,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: if you could trust God, you could believe that to
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: take that too bad? There you go, brother, Thank you
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: very much. You. I'm gonna call you up stage. I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: would do that for you. All right, all right, everybody
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: understand this is my man, care with truth. He's a beast,
• 33:29
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• 33:35
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