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- 1:23Speaker 1: guest is Gordon Fikes. He's the founder of United Clinical Research,
- 1:28Speaker 1: is one of the only minority owned clinical trial site
- 1:31Speaker 1: management organizations in the United States. The goal is to
- 1:35Speaker 1: provide healthcare for the minority community that can be potentially
- 1:39Speaker 1: life changing and saving. Gordon A s Fight has twenty
- 1:42Speaker 1: five years of award winning pharmaceutical sales experience with many
- 1:46Speaker 1: popular Fortune five hundred pharmaceutical companies. Please welcome to the
- 1:51Speaker 1: money Making Conversation to tell us about United Clinical Research.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Mister Gordon Fikes, how you doing, sir?
- 1:57Speaker 3: I'm doing well. How are you sir?
- 2:00Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? Explanation? What exactly is United Clinical Research.
- 2:06Speaker 3: NONY Clinical Research is a site a clinical trial site
- 2:11Speaker 3: management company that works with pharmaceutical companies clinical resource research
- 2:18Speaker 3: organizations in order to specifically find my more minorities for
- 2:25Speaker 3: clinical trials. That's why we're in business.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Okay, So break down a little bit more. When you
- 2:33Speaker 1: say you want minorities to participate in tests, or what
- 2:38Speaker 1: is it your trial? The word trials, what is the
- 2:40Speaker 1: word trials?
- 2:41Speaker 3: Good question, good good questions. So to make it simple,
- 2:45Speaker 3: what we want to do is there are thousands upon
- 2:48Speaker 3: thousands of what we call human subject research trials. Right.
- 2:55Speaker 3: The trial is a medical unapproved medication that has to
- 3:00Speaker 3: go through the proper testing in order for the FDA
- 3:03Speaker 3: to approve it. What my company does is assist those organizations,
- 3:08Speaker 3: the pharmaceutical companies we call them CROs, the clinical research organizations,
- 3:15Speaker 3: to find minorities to participate in those clinical trials.
- 3:20Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you do. I gotta dive a little
- 3:23Speaker 1: deeper on this, mister Fikes, because you know, you know,
- 3:26Speaker 1: I looked at your background, you know, in nineteen ninety four,
- 3:29Speaker 1: a graduate of Tuskegee University, Okay, and I'm African American black,
- 3:34Speaker 1: you know, and when you start using the word trials,
- 3:37Speaker 1: start use word tests around black people, we get real
- 3:40Speaker 1: suspicious and we don't want to be bothered with that.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Now you've started a company, I believe that. I believe
- 3:48Speaker 1: that at all my heart. Now you can tell me
- 3:50Speaker 1: that's why I brought you on the show to help
- 3:52Speaker 1: me and help you because we want to break down
- 3:55Speaker 1: a lot of stereotype. Because we got to get people
- 3:57Speaker 1: to sign up for these trials in order for us
- 4:00Speaker 1: to find cures, for us to find health remedies so
- 4:04Speaker 1: our community can live longer. Because we found out doing
- 4:06Speaker 1: COVID a lot of things. That was the reason we
- 4:10Speaker 1: was high on the lift of people dying or people
- 4:12Speaker 1: succeptible took OVID nineteen was because of our diabetes, high
- 4:17Speaker 1: blood pressure, you know, weight issues and things like that.
- 4:20Speaker 1: And so that's what this whole world of clinical trials
- 4:23Speaker 1: was really important to talk about.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Correct. That is correct, and let me interject and tell
- 4:30Speaker 3: you that he is. The people are not wrong for
- 4:32Speaker 3: what we feel rightay, many of us, many of us
- 4:36Speaker 3: say the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, when it really should be
- 4:41Speaker 3: termed the civilists experiment at Tuskegee. And what happened was
- 4:46Speaker 3: there were six hundred black men in nineteen thirty two,
- 4:51Speaker 3: a portion of them did not have syphiless, and more
- 4:55Speaker 3: than half had syphiless. Ten years later, eleven years later,
- 5:01Speaker 3: in nineteen forty three, when penicillin became the common treatment
- 5:07Speaker 3: for syphilis. Guess what those more than two hundred and
- 5:12Speaker 3: fifty men that had siblists, they were not given the penicillin. Now,
- 5:17Speaker 3: that started the chain of events that lasted for forty
- 5:21Speaker 3: years until nineteen seventy two until somebody said, hey, this
- 5:26Speaker 3: is crazy, this has to stop. So just that grievance
- 5:31Speaker 3: alone has caused a lot of issues with due reason
- 5:37Speaker 3: in our communities. So you know, I want to tell
- 5:40Speaker 3: people that what you feel is is true. It happened,
- 5:45Speaker 3: but I'm here to talk about some things that have
- 5:48Speaker 3: been put in place to change that whole paradise.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Right Because the one thing about it is, you know,
- 5:53Speaker 1: I always try to bring individuals when the show that
- 5:56Speaker 1: moved a needle, okay, United clinical research. You know, I'm
- 6:00Speaker 1: involved with a lot of programs with sickle sale. I
- 6:02Speaker 1: have a sickle cell trade and so always trying to
- 6:05Speaker 1: find out a cure. So you need people for clinical
- 6:08Speaker 1: research in order to be engaged. I'm not saying that's
- 6:11Speaker 1: what this is involved in right now, but I know
- 6:13Speaker 1: that's important to get people engaged to find out if
- 6:16Speaker 1: we're hitting in the right direction. Now with that being said,
- 6:20Speaker 1: because you know, because I'll be honest when I before
- 6:23Speaker 1: the interview, I called mister Fikes. I said, mister fight,
- 6:26Speaker 1: he is the lane of questions. I'm going to ask
- 6:29Speaker 1: because in my mind I want to know and I
- 6:31Speaker 1: want to make sure you're comfortable. We said we share.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Look at it, brother, I know for a fact the
- 6:36Speaker 1: question you asked God to be asked, and I'm going
- 6:39Speaker 1: to answer them because they are true. It did happen
- 6:42Speaker 1: in tuski had nothing, nothing to do with the university,
- 6:45Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Tuskegee Airmen. This happened in
- 6:49Speaker 1: the city of Tuskegee, and it gets lumped into that
- 6:52Speaker 1: whole Tuskegee world. And so you're you've come out of
- 6:56Speaker 1: here become a leader, founded this United Clinical Research. What
- 7:03Speaker 1: is the goal of United Clinical Research?
- 7:06Speaker 3: You know, I have a long term goal, but the
- 7:09Speaker 3: more immediate goal is I want to help at least
- 7:13Speaker 3: ten thousand minority individuals. Now, let me say this. I
- 7:17Speaker 3: don't discriminate, Okay, we're all one, homogeneous people, Okay, but
- 7:23Speaker 3: this company was founded on the purpose of helping minorities,
- 7:27Speaker 3: people of darker melanin people. You know, I want to
- 7:32Speaker 3: help us find medications, find studies, human subject research, studies
- 7:40Speaker 3: that can possibly save their grandparents, that could possibly save
- 7:45Speaker 3: their parents, that could save a child even you know,
- 7:48Speaker 3: I've been blessed to have the background and the knowledge
- 7:53Speaker 3: that there are there are angels who have put together
- 7:58Speaker 3: some of these medications, and people can take that for
- 8:01Speaker 3: what it's worth, but there is healing in some of
- 8:04Speaker 3: these medications, whether people want to believe it or not.
- 8:08Speaker 3: My background is in biology and chemistry, so the science
- 8:11Speaker 3: of it, I know there are science that can save lives.
- 8:15Speaker 3: And my job is to number one, show people, show
- 8:19Speaker 3: black people that look, what happened in the past cannot
- 8:23Speaker 3: possibly happen in the future. And these are the steps
- 8:26Speaker 3: that the government that we as a people have put
- 8:29Speaker 3: in place. The biggest thing is called informed consent. But
- 8:33Speaker 3: we can get into that if you want.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Absolutely, because I think that's important in order for people
- 8:38Speaker 1: to understand they are protected.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Now correct, correct, they are protected, And for this reason
- 8:46Speaker 3: and this reason only, I'm really moving forward and trying
- 8:49Speaker 3: to position that if you know, if your parent, if
- 8:53Speaker 3: you have a family member who has cancer, you have
- 8:56Speaker 3: a family member that has diabetes, hypertension, plaqueariasis, anything. I
- 9:03Speaker 3: want my company to be the company that you reach
- 9:07Speaker 3: out to to say hey, can you help me and
- 9:09Speaker 3: let me be let me be the person to try
- 9:12Speaker 3: to help you.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Okay, cool, I'm talking about Gordon Fikes. He's the founder
- 9:15Speaker 1: of United Clinical Research, is the one and only minority
- 9:19Speaker 1: owned clinical trial site management organization in the United States. Now,
- 9:24Speaker 1: when you use the word help, you know because we've
- 9:26Speaker 1: been talking about trials and is help getting them into
- 9:30Speaker 1: a trial? Are there other ways you're talking about helping
- 9:32Speaker 1: people who contact you?
- 9:35Speaker 3: So you know, there's there's been a lot of people
- 9:37Speaker 3: that reach out to me and say, you know what,
- 9:40Speaker 3: I believe in some research, but other natural pathological ways
- 9:46Speaker 3: that I can get help. You know, it's my job
- 9:49Speaker 3: to say, look, here are your alternatives. Yes, there are
- 9:52Speaker 3: some people that are doing natural studies of natural homeopathic
- 9:58Speaker 3: ways of curing things. Mean I happen to know of those.
- 10:02Speaker 3: My job is to provide you with choices. That's all
- 10:07Speaker 3: I can do and let you make your informed decision
- 10:11Speaker 3: on what you want to do. So that's what I
- 10:14Speaker 3: want to do, and for the next year, I want
- 10:17Speaker 3: to help at least ten thousand people who reach those goals.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Right now, they just broke this down, mister Fike's you
- 10:23Speaker 1: know the number ten thousand. Where did that number come from? Why?
- 10:27Speaker 1: Ten thousand?
- 10:29Speaker 3: You know there is I'm gonna be honest with you,
- 10:32Speaker 3: that number popped up. You know, I was really thinking
- 10:35Speaker 3: about this interview and some of the goals that I've
- 10:39Speaker 3: set for the company's no particularly, I really should have said,
- 10:43Speaker 3: I want to help as many people as possible. But
- 10:46Speaker 3: me knowing this, if I can hit that number, then
- 10:50Speaker 3: I would have done. I would have exceeded my own
- 10:53Speaker 3: expectation of how many people that I can help with
- 10:58Speaker 3: this process.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Now, the thing that is like, if you're being interviewed
- 11:02Speaker 1: on my show and I'm happy it syndicates on the
- 11:05Speaker 1: twenty HBCU Campus series x M one forty two, you
- 11:10Speaker 1: know it drops on my podcasts. So I'm giving you
- 11:13Speaker 1: a platform to educate people about the United Clinical Research.
- 11:18Speaker 1: How can one reach you? And is their website? Yes?
- 11:23Speaker 3: First of all, the website is under construction. However, if
- 11:28Speaker 3: you reach out to me directly on all social media
- 11:31Speaker 3: platforms on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and you can reach me
- 11:38Speaker 3: by Gordon fights g O R D O N y
- 11:42Speaker 3: k E s. If you reach out to me directly,
- 11:45Speaker 3: I will make sure that my people will will help
- 11:49Speaker 3: anyone that reaches out to me.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Now, but at the time, you now, this is an event.
- 11:54Speaker 1: You know, my degree is in mathematics, and so sure
- 11:58Speaker 1: you know biology, well versed in that, the sciences, well
- 12:02Speaker 1: versed in that. How does one based I know, I said,
- 12:06Speaker 1: twenty five years you've been in the pharmaceutical award winner
- 12:10Speaker 1: in the pharmaceutical field and sales and experience. But how
- 12:13Speaker 1: does one become a founder of a United clinical research
- 12:18Speaker 1: that company? Well, how did that happen?
- 12:22Speaker 3: You know? So seven years ago I had the privilege
- 12:27Speaker 3: of working at my alma mater as a program director
- 12:32Speaker 3: under the tutor legit mentorship of doctor Ruben Warren. And
- 12:38Speaker 3: it was during this time that we actually worked with
- 12:42Speaker 3: a pharmaceutical company on a project that looked at increasing
- 12:47Speaker 3: minority participation in minority individuals. This was seven years ago
- 12:54Speaker 3: before the FDA stepped in and started making different mandates
- 13:00Speaker 3: that said two pharmaceutical companies that look, you're going to
- 13:03Speaker 3: have to increase your number. So seven years ago doing
- 13:08Speaker 3: this work, I realized that there was an opportunity. And
- 13:13Speaker 3: then April of twenty twenty two, I read some information
- 13:18Speaker 3: from the FDA that said, hey, you know, this is not.
- 13:22Speaker 3: This is no longer a suggestion, This is an op
- 13:26Speaker 3: This is something you all are going to have to do.
- 13:31Speaker 3: And mister McDonald, let me tell you. When the FDA
- 13:34Speaker 3: says that is something you're going to have to do,
- 13:38Speaker 3: that means if you don't do it, it's going to
- 13:40Speaker 3: affect your bottom line, meaning that there is a possibility
- 13:45Speaker 3: that some medications may not get approved because you didn't
- 13:49Speaker 3: test an appropriate number of minorities in the trials.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Absolutely correct. I'm talking to Gordon Fikes, he's the founder
- 13:57Speaker 1: of United Clinical Research. We were right back to you
- 13:59Speaker 1: more about the whole process. You know, he has an
- 14:01Speaker 1: event we talk about a Memphis, Tennessee where he was
- 14:05Speaker 1: attempted to break a world record for screening blood pressure
- 14:07Speaker 1: and an eight hour time perioy. That and more when
- 14:10Speaker 1: you come back on clinical trials in America done by
- 14:14Speaker 1: United Clinical Research. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
- 14:18Speaker 1: This is your host with Sean McDonald. I've been speaking
- 14:21Speaker 1: to Gordon Fightights, he's the founder of United Clinical Research
- 14:24Speaker 1: and clinical trials. You know, we talked about stereotypes, rumors,
- 14:30Speaker 1: urban legends that oftentimes stops black people from participating all minorities,
- 14:35Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to watch the word minority because
- 14:37Speaker 1: now white women are considered minorities, and so a lot
- 14:42Speaker 1: of people don't know that, and so that word has
- 14:44Speaker 1: been allowed to be engaged in different relationships. But before
- 14:48Speaker 1: we go in there further, I have a phone call
- 14:49Speaker 1: that I want to go to right now, Beverly from Decatur.
- 14:52Speaker 1: How are you doing, Beverly?
- 14:53Speaker 3: Oh?
- 14:54Speaker 4: I'm well, how are you? Miss mac donald?
- 14:55Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. You're on the
- 14:57Speaker 1: phone where Gordon Fikes, the founder of United Clinical Research.
- 15:01Speaker 1: What is your question?
- 15:03Speaker 4: My question is, if you you have blacks that are
- 15:05Speaker 4: willing to participate in these clinical trials, how can we
- 15:09Speaker 4: be assured that we are actually given the correct medicine
- 15:14Speaker 4: and we're not being given up placipo or or some
- 15:17Speaker 4: arbitrary medicine.
- 15:20Speaker 3: So that there is one thing that you can do
- 15:23Speaker 3: is once you find out that there is a possible
- 15:26Speaker 3: trial for you, the very first question you should ask
- 15:30Speaker 3: is will I be given to study drug? And based
- 15:35Speaker 3: on the answer of that, if you get an answer
- 15:37Speaker 3: that says you know it's possible or no, then at
- 15:43Speaker 3: that point you have to make a decision on whether
- 15:46Speaker 3: or not you want to, you know, be a part
- 15:49Speaker 3: of that clinical trial. But that should be one of
- 15:52Speaker 3: the first questions that you ask any anyone that's offering,
- 15:57Speaker 3: you know, such a research. Twelve four years.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Now, Beverly, based on your question, would you consider participating
- 16:06Speaker 1: in a clinical trial?
- 16:08Speaker 4: Well, you know, actually, unfortunately I was streating with COVID
- 16:13Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one. I want to believe, and
- 16:17Speaker 4: I was given the when I was because I was
- 16:20Speaker 4: admitted into the hospital and I was administered the rem
- 16:27Speaker 4: DECA there I think that's how you pronounce it. Yeah,
- 16:31Speaker 4: and uh, you know, and that was what they told
- 16:34Speaker 4: me that I was being given. And you know, eventually
- 16:37Speaker 4: I got better over a month or so. But I
- 16:40Speaker 4: still had my concerns if it was the actual medicine
- 16:45Speaker 4: they said it was, you know, based on our history
- 16:48Speaker 4: with you know, medicine or science and research.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what we was talking about, you know,
- 16:53Speaker 1: it was talking about that history that rumors because they
- 16:56Speaker 1: are true in the community and mister Fis has to
- 16:58Speaker 1: fight against that. And I just want to ask you
- 17:01Speaker 1: an honest question, Beverly. Thank you for calling Money Making
- 17:03Speaker 1: Conversation master Class. You know, when you hear these, we
- 17:07Speaker 1: can say the word urban legends. What drives you not
- 17:10Speaker 1: to trust? What drives you in your mindset? I can't
- 17:14Speaker 1: feel comfortable participating, so it can help us get there,
- 17:18Speaker 1: so we can get more African Americans. Guess what this
- 17:21Speaker 1: is all about? African Americans? We say to my word
- 17:23Speaker 1: minority really is about African Americans?
- 17:25Speaker 3: What?
- 17:25Speaker 4: What? What?
- 17:25Speaker 1: What engages you to say yes or no as a participant.
- 17:30Speaker 4: Well, just some of the you know, some of the
- 17:33Speaker 4: stories we've read in the news, uh, you know, in
- 17:37Speaker 4: our history, the one that you use for an example,
- 17:40Speaker 4: the Tuskegee Toskegee study, and then that was and then
- 17:45Speaker 4: we just kept the we're just in the dark so
- 17:47Speaker 4: much about our medicine. But I can't even and I
- 17:49Speaker 4: can't think of the lady's name, but she played a
- 17:52Speaker 4: major role in cancer. I think the Harvard took some
- 17:56Speaker 4: of it was either John.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Read Yeah, so.
- 18:04Speaker 4: Her blood and all of this coming out so many,
- 18:07Speaker 4: you know, decades later.
- 18:09Speaker 3: There's just.
- 18:11Speaker 4: There's just quite a bit of history that leads me
- 18:14Speaker 4: to feel that way. And you know, and it's sad
- 18:17Speaker 4: because I know there are trials out that it could be,
- 18:20Speaker 4: you know, quite beneficial to us, but if we're scared
- 18:23Speaker 4: to use them, you know, how we ever know if
- 18:25Speaker 4: we and even sometimes my own doctors, Uh, I'm faced
- 18:31Speaker 4: with something now. I've been going to see the same
- 18:33Speaker 4: doctor for so many years and knows my history, you know,
- 18:37Speaker 4: backwards and forth. But I've been stricken with something that
- 18:42Speaker 4: I'm dealing with now right that should have been and.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Dealt with absolutely that happened to me, you know, with
- 18:48Speaker 1: my cancer discovery. You know my doctor, mister, and the
- 18:53Speaker 1: person who's doing my blood test is the one who
- 18:55Speaker 1: found it. And it was a doctor I was going
- 18:57Speaker 1: to over at least ten years, and I think there
- 19:00Speaker 1: was the casual relationship we had created that allowed him
- 19:04Speaker 1: to just you know, walking in door, sit down, ask
- 19:06Speaker 1: me about my life, ask me how I've been doing,
- 19:08Speaker 1: and then walk right back out there. It was the
- 19:10Speaker 1: same thing with my dinnists. So I think that what
- 19:13Speaker 1: mister Fike said earlier, asking the right question, making sure
- 19:17Speaker 1: you don't make assumptions, and make sure that whatever how
- 19:20Speaker 1: they respond, you're comfortable with. If the response doesn't allow
- 19:25Speaker 1: you to be comfortable, ask another question. If it leads
- 19:29Speaker 1: to them going shrugging their shoulders or going you can
- 19:32Speaker 1: do this if if you want to, then get up
- 19:35Speaker 1: and get out. And that is and that's the bottom line, and.
- 19:40Speaker 4: Usual that's what I do. Because I'm seeing three specialists
- 19:44Speaker 4: now about my well, I've gone to three and I
- 19:48Speaker 4: wanted to make sure I wanted to not double with
- 19:51Speaker 4: triple check that my eyes are being treated for what
- 19:55Speaker 4: is the actual diagnosis because of the lack I guess
- 20:01Speaker 4: the lackadaisical relationship like you said you had with your dog.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, you know some Beverly, and I tell you
- 20:08Speaker 1: to everybody, and I want to thank you for calling
- 20:11Speaker 1: the show, is that the bottom line is all tied
- 20:14Speaker 1: to you and what you feel you have to do
- 20:16Speaker 1: and want to do. There are a lot of people
- 20:18Speaker 1: walking around here just like Beverly, don't want to make
- 20:20Speaker 1: the phone call, got ideas. I'm not gonna be bothered
- 20:25Speaker 1: with that. There are a lot of people who lost
- 20:26Speaker 1: their lives during COVID because they didn't want to wear
- 20:31Speaker 1: a mask, They didn't want to be they didn't want
- 20:34Speaker 1: to be involved in that situation. So my whole purpose
- 20:37Speaker 1: of bringing mister Fikes on the show, and you know,
- 20:39Speaker 1: I called him before the show. I said you I
- 20:42Speaker 1: told something said brother it's some urban legends out there
- 20:44Speaker 1: that just working against your dreams. That number of ten
- 20:48Speaker 1: thousand sounds good, but there's an uphill can But I said,
- 20:51Speaker 1: look here, I want to be a champion for you,
- 20:54Speaker 1: because if I can't convince you, if I can't help
- 20:56Speaker 1: you get there, then guess what somebody else needs to
- 20:59Speaker 1: step in and help you. But each one is a
- 21:03Speaker 1: leg up. It's a leg up. It's like climbing the ladder.
- 21:05Speaker 1: You can't climb the ladder unless you take one step
- 21:07Speaker 1: at the time. Now you can try to jump some steps,
- 21:09Speaker 1: and most time you jump some steps in the ladder,
- 21:11Speaker 1: you're gonna fall off and hurt yourself. And so we're
- 21:13Speaker 1: not trying to hurt anybody. This show is an honest show.
- 21:17Speaker 1: We're inviting people to call on. And plus I wanted
- 21:19Speaker 1: to open up mister Fikes's eyes to the community too
- 21:23Speaker 1: so he can hear and go, oh, Rashan you it
- 21:26Speaker 1: really is out there, because you know we can hear.
- 21:28Speaker 1: But she the community just called in. She Beverly is community,
- 21:33Speaker 1: she's neighborhood and those same type far But also what
- 21:36Speaker 1: I heard in Beverly is that I try, I do,
- 21:40Speaker 1: and that's all you want, right, mister Fikes.
- 21:42Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. And here's something for both anyone listening.
- 21:46Speaker 3: I didn't share this with you earlier, mister McDonald, Miss Beverly.
- 21:51Speaker 3: The motto for United Critical Research is trust worthiness must
- 21:58Speaker 3: precede trust. So what does that mean? It's not so
- 22:03Speaker 3: for so long. The pharmaceuticals, even some doctors say, well,
- 22:08Speaker 3: those people should trust us. Now, if you walk in
- 22:12Speaker 3: an office and you don't feel like whoever you are
- 22:16Speaker 3: working with is trust worthy, walk out. We have to
- 22:20Speaker 3: show that we're trustworthy before you exhibit trust in anything.
- 22:25Speaker 3: And I want anybody to know that we have to
- 22:28Speaker 3: show that we're trustworthy before you trust. So I want
- 22:32Speaker 3: everybody to remember that.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Oh I've got a few minutes left, but I want
- 22:35Speaker 1: to make sure I talk about your Memphis vent that's
- 22:38Speaker 1: coming up. I believe, well, you want to break a
- 22:40Speaker 1: world record for screening blood pressure in an eight hour
- 22:43Speaker 1: time period. Now, you know blood pressure, that's serious. And
- 22:47Speaker 1: whenever I go to a doctor, they take my blood pressure.
- 22:50Speaker 1: In fact, I'm on blood pressure peels okay, And so
- 22:53Speaker 1: every morning I get up, I take my blood pressure pel. Again.
- 22:55Speaker 1: A lot of people, a lot of people don't understand
- 22:58Speaker 1: the power, and the blood pressure really is a silent killer.
- 23:02Speaker 1: There's a lot of people you hear stuff like, oh,
- 23:04Speaker 1: he looks so good. I was just talking to him
- 23:07Speaker 1: the other day. I saw him in church. He was
- 23:10Speaker 1: running and jogging and playing basketball. Well, see that's what
- 23:14Speaker 1: blood pressure will allow you to do until you keep
- 23:18Speaker 1: consistently hitting that number. And so my blood pressure pills
- 23:22Speaker 1: forced me to change my diet but also allows me
- 23:26Speaker 1: to live a normal life. But if I act stupid,
- 23:29Speaker 1: I'm mean, use the word stupid and stop taking that pill.
- 23:32Speaker 1: Guess what I'd be one of those stories you hear about, Well,
- 23:34Speaker 1: we shall look so good. You know, I was just
- 23:37Speaker 1: eating with him, I saw him and go in the coreer,
- 23:39Speaker 1: what's wrong? What happened? And so so now you're in
- 23:42Speaker 1: Memphis trying to break a record. Tell us about this,
- 23:44Speaker 1: and I want to wish you great luck on on
- 23:47Speaker 1: on doing it, but tell us about the bigger picture
- 23:49Speaker 1: and when is this happening?
- 23:51Speaker 3: All right? Eighth No February second four. You've got the
- 23:58Speaker 3: clinical research along with the music Moves You. Foundation has
- 24:05Speaker 3: a title sponsor America of Tennessee, who has said, you
- 24:09Speaker 3: know what this is something great for the Memphis community.
- 24:13Speaker 3: And along with the Memphis Grizzlies, the basketball team, we're
- 24:18Speaker 3: gonna try to break the world record of twenty six thousand,
- 24:23Speaker 3: seven hundred and forty four people were tested in India?
- 24:29Speaker 3: Did you hear what I said India? A few years back?
- 24:34Speaker 3: I talked about this earlier this.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Now, what was that number?
- 24:36Speaker 3: Again?
- 24:37Speaker 1: One more time, sir? What was that number?
- 24:38Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six thousand, seven hundred and forty four people.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, you know you're in Memphis.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Now.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Memphis is not a big city. Now. Now, if you
- 24:50Speaker 1: told me you was coming down here and doing it
- 24:51Speaker 1: in Atlanta, you know, Houston, or even New York because
- 24:56Speaker 1: you can probably get them out of all the boroughs.
- 24:58Speaker 1: But you're in Memphis trying to break a record right now.
- 25:00Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know. You really pushing it,
- 25:03Speaker 1: my friend, You've really pushing it.
- 25:05Speaker 3: But I respect. Let's make it simple, though.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Let's make it simple, Okay.
- 25:08Speaker 3: I don't know the census population, yes, sir, I would.
- 25:12Speaker 3: I would assume there's at least twenty two hundred and
- 25:16Speaker 3: seventy thousand black folks.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Yes it is, Yes, it is, Yes, it is at
- 25:20Speaker 1: least that yes, it is.
- 25:22Speaker 3: If I can't get ten percent of that population, sir,
- 25:27Speaker 3: to test their blood pressure, I'm not doing something that
- 25:29Speaker 3: none of us are doing.
- 25:30Speaker 1: I tell you what we do. What's that date, February.
- 25:33Speaker 1: What's that date?
- 25:33Speaker 3: February, February second.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Okay, cool, this is what we're gonna do, mister Fikes.
- 25:37Speaker 1: You know New Year's Resolution, that's what that's what people do,
- 25:40Speaker 1: turn loose, think about their health. Blood pressure. So we're
- 25:43Speaker 1: gonna bring you back on the show the Tuesday before
- 25:46Speaker 1: that event. That could. That's a deal.
- 25:48Speaker 3: That's what.
- 25:48Speaker 1: That's the deal, because you gonna need help now. I'm
- 25:50Speaker 1: just telling you gonna need help now. I know you
- 25:52Speaker 1: try to get ten percent, but you gotta get them.
- 25:54Speaker 1: You gotta get some people coming from Nashville drive up
- 25:57Speaker 1: to last You're gonna need to help, my friend, and
- 26:01Speaker 1: I'm wondering to help you out. More importantly, I want
- 26:03Speaker 1: to thank you for allowing me to have an honest
- 26:05Speaker 1: conversation with the community about what you're trying to do.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Because what you're trying to do needs to get done.
- 26:12Speaker 1: And I'm speaking to the founder of the United Clinical
- 26:15Speaker 1: Research He's the one and only minority clinical trial site
- 26:18Speaker 1: management organization in the United States. Gordon Fikes, thank you
- 26:22Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass and we will
- 26:25Speaker 1: see you the first Tuesday before your event, February second.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Okay, hey, I appreciate you, Sir, I appreciate it.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Stays strong.
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