Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / FREEDOM VS. MANDATES: The Fight Over Faith, Jobs and Vaccines
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- 0:36Speaker 3: Good Tuesday morning. Nice to have you with us on
- 0:38Speaker 3: the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got an exciting
- 0:41Speaker 3: story for you. Donald Trump put together the Religious Liberty Commission,
- 0:45Speaker 3: and it presented on Friday the final draft of a
- 0:48Speaker 3: report to President Donald Trump and the Oval Office recommendations
- 0:53Speaker 3: on how to enhance religious liberty policies. They would directly
- 0:57Speaker 3: relate to the COVID nineteen vaccine and others within the
- 1:02Speaker 3: healthcare industry, as well as the US military. Translation, no
- 1:07Speaker 3: more mandates. So what does it mean moving forward? We
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- 2:59Speaker 4: Story number one.
- 3:00Speaker 3: There's been a ton of talk recently about taxes, about immigration,
- 3:04Speaker 3: about foreign policy, and about Supreme Court decisions coming down.
- 3:09Speaker 3: But there's one story about religious liberty that you really
- 3:12Speaker 3: need to know about. President Trump is trying to follow
- 3:15Speaker 3: through on many of his recommendations made by his Religious
- 3:18Speaker 3: Liberty Commission. It actually could fundamentally change how the federal
- 3:22Speaker 3: government treats Americans whose religious beliefs will conflict with government mandates,
- 3:28Speaker 3: including healthcare workers and members of the United States military.
- 3:32Speaker 3: A lot of this goes back to COVID nineteen in
- 3:35Speaker 3: the COVID vaccine. Well last week, the Commission that's chaired
- 3:39Speaker 3: by the Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick and the vice chair,
- 3:43Speaker 3: doctor Ben Carson, delivered its final report to President Trump
- 3:48Speaker 3: and the Oval Office after spending more than a year,
- 3:51Speaker 3: holding seven hearings and hearing testimony for more than one
- 3:55Speaker 3: hundred different witnesses. The commission was created in twenty twenty
- 3:59Speaker 3: five to identify threats to religious liberty and then recommend
- 4:03Speaker 3: legislative and regulatory and executive actions. This is exactly by
- 4:08Speaker 3: the way how government should work, and the report it's
- 4:11Speaker 3: pretty amazing. Not only does it cover schools and parents
- 4:14Speaker 3: and faith based organizations and anti semitism and the workplace,
- 4:19Speaker 3: but two sections could have enormous consequences. They deal with
- 4:23Speaker 3: health care and the US military. So let's start with
- 4:27Speaker 3: health care. The commission recommended significant expanded protections not only
- 4:33Speaker 3: for doctors, but nurses, pharmacists, hospitals, and then other medical
- 4:38Speaker 3: professionals who object on religious or moral grounds to participating
- 4:43Speaker 3: in certain medical procedures. Among its recommendations are stronger enforcement
- 4:48Speaker 3: of federal conscience laws and support for legislation such as
- 4:53Speaker 3: the Consciences Protection Act, as well as more aggressive investigations
- 4:57Speaker 3: by the Department of Health and Human Services Office for
- 5:00Speaker 3: Civil Rights, as well as strategic litigation by the Department
- 5:04Speaker 3: of Justice not only to defend healthcare workers, but the
- 5:07Speaker 3: religious freedoms they were trampled all over by the last
- 5:11Speaker 3: administration and during COVID nineteen mandates of Yes the Vaccine
- 5:17Speaker 3: Now supporters are making it clear they believe no Americans
- 5:21Speaker 3: should have to choose between their deeply held religious beliefs
- 5:25Speaker 3: and literally providing for their families losing their careers. Critics,
- 5:29Speaker 3: of course, on the radical left. They argue that expanding
- 5:32Speaker 3: conscientious protections will just make it more difficult for some
- 5:36Speaker 3: patients to access certain medical services. Well, regardless of wherever
- 5:41Speaker 3: you stand on that, this is a major policy debate
- 5:44Speaker 3: that is going to reshape because of Trump's leadership on
- 5:48Speaker 3: health care employment across the entire country. And then there's
- 5:52Speaker 3: the second part of this, and that's the military. The
- 5:55Speaker 3: commission recommends streamlining and then strengthening the religious accommodations process
- 6:00Speaker 3: for service members. It also highlights testimony from top military
- 6:06Speaker 3: personnel who said they suffered career setbacks, lost benefits, or
- 6:11Speaker 3: were even forced out of our service after refusing a
- 6:14Speaker 3: simple COVID nineteen vaccination requirement. Even after they stated it
- 6:20Speaker 3: was on religious grounds. Now, you've got to remember the
- 6:24Speaker 3: COVID years, you had not hundreds, but thousands military members
- 6:29Speaker 3: that requested religious exemptions for vaccine requirements for the COVID
- 6:33Speaker 3: nineteen shot some requests and the majority actually were denied.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Some service members were then forced to leave the military. Now,
- 6:41Speaker 3: others argued that they were effectively forced out of their career,
- 6:45Speaker 3: that they had been spending decades building and serving their country.
- 6:50Speaker 3: And that's where the Commission's report comes in. They said,
- 6:53Speaker 3: those stories illustrate why stronger protections are not only needed
- 6:58Speaker 3: because in the future, and yes, with future administrations, there
- 7:01Speaker 3: will be a Democrat at some point back in the
- 7:03Speaker 3: White House, they said, the future administrations cannot, and the
- 7:07Speaker 3: Commission's view unnecessarily burden the free exercise of religion. And
- 7:13Speaker 3: then that is where it really comes back to COVID
- 7:15Speaker 3: nineteen vaccine and the debate. The report itself, i want
- 7:19Speaker 3: to be clear, does not recommend banning vaccine mandates. Instead,
- 7:24Speaker 3: it recommends making religious accommodation requests that are really actually
- 7:29Speaker 3: just more meaningful and ensuring that when you do make
- 7:33Speaker 3: that request, if you're serving in our military or at
- 7:36Speaker 3: our hospitals, that you receive greater legal protection in both
- 7:40Speaker 3: civilian health care and military settings. Now, if those recommendations
- 7:45Speaker 3: are actually implemented through executive action or legislation the next
- 7:49Speaker 3: time the federal government considers a nationwide healthcare mandate, which
- 7:53Speaker 3: is exactly what happened under the liberal leadership in this country,
- 7:57Speaker 3: then agencies may face a much higher bar for denying
- 8:00Speaker 3: religious exemption requests, and that potentially is a very significant
- 8:05Speaker 3: change and one for the better. The Commission also earn
- 8:09Speaker 3: testimony from workers, including military service members, who said, not
- 8:13Speaker 3: only do they lose their jobs, but they lost pensions,
- 8:15Speaker 3: they lost retirement opportunities, and yeah, then they lost their
- 8:19Speaker 3: jobs because they declined the COVID nineteen vaccines based on
- 8:23Speaker 3: religious grounds. Now those accounts are cited as evidence that
- 8:28Speaker 3: it's clear that we need stronger safeguards that are desperately
- 8:32Speaker 3: needed and warranted. The report also goes well beyond COVID.
- 8:36Speaker 3: It also recommends that the Department of Justice, the Department
- 8:40Speaker 3: of Health and Human Services, and the Equal Employment Opportunity
- 8:44Speaker 3: Commission developed know your Rights materials and create hotlines and
- 8:49Speaker 3: online reporting systems for people who actually believe that the
- 8:52Speaker 3: religious liberties have then been violated, and that could even
- 8:56Speaker 3: be the federal government doing it. It also proposes honoring
- 9:00Speaker 3: individuals who had defended religious liberty through new presidential awards
- 9:05Speaker 3: and calls for additional education about First Amendment protections. Now,
- 9:10Speaker 3: President Trump has already come out praising the Commission during
- 9:14Speaker 3: the Oval Office presentation of all of this, saying that
- 9:17Speaker 3: the administration intends to strengthen religious liberty protections for all
- 9:21Speaker 3: Americans and emphasize that freedom of religion is central to
- 9:25Speaker 3: the country's constitutional rights and constitutional traditions. Not going to
- 9:30Speaker 3: be very clear, none of these recommendations automatically become law.
- 9:35Speaker 3: That's why I'm telling you about it right now. Some
- 9:37Speaker 3: of these could be pursed through executive action, others could
- 9:41Speaker 3: require Congress's approval, and others will likely face significant court challenges.
- 9:48Speaker 3: Why because Democrats are going to sue on all of this.
- 9:51Speaker 3: But what the President is now laid out is a
- 9:54Speaker 3: roadmap that could shape federal policy for decades to come,
- 9:59Speaker 3: and clearly he willing to fight this battle. And if
- 10:02Speaker 3: you're a supporter, then you see these recommendations as not
- 10:05Speaker 3: only restoring what you believe is the original meeting of
- 10:08Speaker 3: the First Amendment free exercise clause, but also about better
- 10:12Speaker 3: protecting Americans from actually being penalized because of sincerely held
- 10:17Speaker 3: religious beliefs. Now, the left, they're angry. They say all
- 10:22Speaker 3: this is is a shift in the balance of power
- 10:25Speaker 3: between religious liberty and other legal protections. They say it's
- 10:28Speaker 3: creating new conflicts over access to service and equal treatment
- 10:32Speaker 3: under the law. Those debates, well, they're going to want
- 10:36Speaker 3: to have them, I think will win. But what is
- 10:39Speaker 3: clear is that the Commission has now placed religious liberties
- 10:42Speaker 3: squarely at the center of a national conversation, and when
- 10:47Speaker 3: it comes to healthcare workers and members of the military,
- 10:50Speaker 3: these implications could be substantial. That's why you should be excited.
- 10:56Speaker 3: If all of these recommendations are actually adopted. Future administrations
- 11:01Speaker 3: will then face greater legal constraints before requiring you to
- 11:06Speaker 3: comply with policies that conflict with sincerely held religious beliefs,
- 11:11Speaker 3: particularly in areas like public health mandates as well as
- 11:14Speaker 3: medical ethics. Now, whether you view this as a restoration
- 11:18Speaker 3: of your constitutional protections you already had, or a significant
- 11:23Speaker 3: policy shift, it's a debate about well, just the beginning
- 11:27Speaker 3: of all of this, and one of these that could
- 11:29Speaker 3: have a huge impact on healthcare as well as the
- 11:33Speaker 3: armed forces, and then dealing with the other big issue,
- 11:37Speaker 3: the scope of religious accommodations in America. This all will
- 11:41Speaker 3: have a big impact for years to come and will
- 11:44Speaker 3: probably impact not only your kids, but maybe even your
- 11:47Speaker 3: grandkids when they're born. That's why Donald Trump clearly is
- 11:51Speaker 3: wanting to have this argument, this fight, this debate right now,
- 11:55Speaker 3: because if we don't have this debate now, what happens
- 11:58Speaker 3: the next time there's a COVID esque outbreak? What happens
- 12:03Speaker 3: when they come up with a vaccine quickly? Are you
- 12:05Speaker 3: going to be forced to take that vaccine or lose
- 12:09Speaker 3: your job? Will that happen to thousands and thousands of
- 12:12Speaker 3: American soldiers? And that's part of why this commission is
- 12:16Speaker 3: doing their work right now and giving these recommendations. The
- 12:20Speaker 3: President of the United States of America. We already know
- 12:23Speaker 3: the President says yes to these types of recommendations. He's
- 12:27Speaker 3: the one signed the alarm about abusive power by the
- 12:30Speaker 3: Democratic Party, the Socialists, and the Marxist in Washington.
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