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Oops-Biden Pretends his Open Borders were an Accident, plus Fauci Defiant & Denying · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you,
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Speaker 2: and Senator Finally, we've got some real action from the
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Speaker 2: President of the United States of America on the border,
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Speaker 2: with executive actions that he said he could never do,
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Speaker 2: but now all of a sudden, he's all about it.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 4: We saw yesterday a campaign speech from the White House,
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Speaker 4: the President now claiming he's tough, tough, tough on the border,
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Speaker 4: and he's going to impose tough executive action now, just coincidentally,
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Speaker 4: five months before an election. We're going to break that down.
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Speaker 4: We're going to explain exactly what he did. We're also
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Speaker 4: going to talk about doctor Fauci. Doctor Fauchi was on
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Speaker 4: Fauci thinks every single thing we did during COVID was
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Speaker 2: That's Patriot Mobile dot com slash verdict. Senator Biden came out,
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Speaker 2: he signed this executive order. He didn't do it at
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Speaker 2: the border. He just did it, you know at normal Washington, DC.
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Speaker 2: He's a guy that's like, hey, there's a problem down there.
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Speaker 2: But it's the fault to the Republicans. And he said
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Speaker 2: for the last three years he wasn't he couldn't do anything,
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Speaker 2: his hands were tied.
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Speaker 1: It was a Republican's fault.
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Speaker 2: They need to pass amnesty and then get a bill
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Speaker 2: together through through Washington, through Congress, and then all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden, Biden comes out and signs executive order that
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Speaker 2: quote will dramatically tighten the border.
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Speaker 1: That's the white now said. The problem is it doesn't
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Speaker 1: at all.
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Speaker 4: Well, listen, let me focus on a couple of things
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Speaker 4: you said. Number one, you said he didn't do this
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Speaker 4: at the border. There's a reason for that. Joe Biden
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Speaker 4: doesn't go to the border. Kamala Harris doesn't go to
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Speaker 4: the border. Democrats senators don't go to the border. Democrat
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Speaker 4: House members don't go to the border. And the reason is,
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Speaker 4: if you actually see what is happening at the border,
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Speaker 4: nobody can defend it. If you see the dead bodies,
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Speaker 4: if you see the people who are suffering, if you
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Speaker 4: see the children who are being brutalized, if you see
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Speaker 4: the women who are being repeatedly raped you cannot defend it.
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Speaker 4: So he did it from Washington. This was not about immigration,
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Speaker 4: this was not about policy. This was a political speech.
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Speaker 4: And so today he announced boldly, we are enacting an
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Speaker 4: executive order to secure the border. Now understand what he's
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Speaker 4: admitting when he said that today is he's admitting he
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Speaker 4: could have done this in twenty twenty one. He could
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Speaker 4: have done this in twenty twenty two. He could have
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Speaker 4: done this in twenty twenty three. He could have done
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Speaker 4: this last month, the month before, the month of four
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Speaker 4: of the month before, he didn't.
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Speaker 2: What are you saying that Joe Biden lied to the
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Speaker 2: American People Center every day he said he couldn't do anything.
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Speaker 4: Every day he's been in the White House, he's been
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Speaker 4: lying he could have enact in an executive order. Actually,
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Speaker 4: he didn't need to understand. When Joe Biden became president
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Speaker 4: January twentieth, twenty twenty one, he inherited the lowest rate
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Speaker 4: of illegal immigration in forty five years. All he had
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Speaker 4: to do with nothing was nothing. He didn't even have
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Speaker 4: to have an executive order. He had to do nothing
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Speaker 4: and accept the success that he had inherited. I worked
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Speaker 4: hand in hand with Donald Trump, we had incredible success
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Speaker 4: securing the border. If Biden had done nothing, he could
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Speaker 4: have accepted that success. He could have worked on like,
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Speaker 4: you know, socialism or whatever other policy he had. He
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Speaker 4: didn't do that. Instead, he deliberately systematically broke the border.
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Speaker 4: He did that the first week in office. There are
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Speaker 4: three decisions that caused this border crisis. Number One, he
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Speaker 4: immediately haulted construction of the border wall, by the way,
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Speaker 4: he didn't reverse that today. Number Two, he reinstated the
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Speaker 4: disase Astros policy of catch and release, so now when
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Speaker 4: people apprehend illegal immigrants, the Biden administration lets them go.
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Speaker 4: He didn't change that today. Number Three, he pulled out
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Speaker 4: of the incredibly successful Remain in Mexico agreement. That is
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Speaker 4: how we achieved the lowest rate of illegal immigration in
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Speaker 4: forty five years.
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Speaker 3: He did not reverse that.
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Speaker 4: Those three decisions took us from the lowest rate in
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Speaker 4: forty five years up to the highest rate ever recorded.
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Speaker 4: Eleven million illegal immigrants have crossed under Joe Biden. Understand
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Speaker 4: this is deliberate. This is the outcome they want. They're
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Speaker 4: willing to overlook every person who dies, every criminal who
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Speaker 4: comes into this country, every terrorist, who comes into this country,
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Speaker 4: every child who's brutalized, every woman who is raped, all
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Speaker 4: of that they're willing to overlook. Why because they look
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Speaker 4: at eleven million illegals and they say, those are future
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Speaker 4: Democrat voters, and we want power, and if people have
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Speaker 4: to suffer and die, we'll take that trade off.
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Speaker 3: Now, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: No, my question was you look at this and you
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Speaker 2: mentioned the timing and the intro that this is five
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Speaker 2: months before election day, and the White House gonna say, no,
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Speaker 2: this is significant. I go back to the headline from
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Speaker 2: NBC News. It says Biden sign's executive order dramatically tightening
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Speaker 2: the border. He has faced political pressure as migrants have
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Speaker 2: continued to arrive at the US Mexico border, saying that
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Speaker 2: this is because of the facing mounting political pressure over
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Speaker 2: the migrant influx at the US othern border.
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Speaker 1: And this is significant.
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Speaker 2: You're saying that the news is lying as well, because
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Speaker 2: this is not significant at all.
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Speaker 4: Well, yes, and no. Look, we're five months out from
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Speaker 4: an election. I'm gonna make a prediction. We're gonna see
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Speaker 4: the numbers of the border drop over the next five months.
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Speaker 4: They're not going to drop massively. They're going to drop
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Speaker 4: modestly and Joe Biden and the Democrats are going to
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Speaker 4: jump up and down and say, see, we solve the problem.
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Speaker 4: And we've seen this game. Listen, they only have about
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Speaker 4: three plays in their playbook that they're not subtle, they're
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Speaker 4: not sophisticated, they're not complicated. Think before twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 4: what did Biden do before the election? That he did
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Speaker 4: a couple of things. Number one, right before the election,
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Speaker 4: he released massive quantities of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in an all time low, by the way,
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Speaker 2: in our oil reserves. And didn't care that that made
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Speaker 2: us vulnerable.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't care national security. Protecting the country doesn't matter
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Speaker 4: to this administration. They have consistently undermined national security from
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Speaker 4: day one. But it was all designed to lower gas prices.
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Speaker 4: So gas prices, the price of gasoline had doubled under
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, so he does this massive release from the
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Speaker 4: spro Why because he wanted a lower gas price and
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Speaker 4: he succeeded. They lowered gas prices a little bit, and
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Speaker 4: then they campaigned, see gas prices are going down. And
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Speaker 4: by the way, they enjoyed some electoral success because I
9:06
Speaker 4: think in part break, gas prices went down. I'll give
9:09
Speaker 4: another example, student loans. Right before the election in twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty two, Joe Biden announces I'm giving away a trillion
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Speaker 4: dollars young people, I'm giving you money. I'm Santa Claus.
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Speaker 4: All you got to do is vote for Democrats. I
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Speaker 4: give you money.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden knew that that was not going to survive.
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Speaker 4: I promise you Every lawyer in the administration told a
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Speaker 4: mister president. As president, you can't give away a trillion dollars.
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Speaker 4: There's no power in the constitution for the president to
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Speaker 4: give away a trillion dollars. The only way to spend
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Speaker 4: a trillion dollars is if Congress appropriates that money. They
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Speaker 4: haven't done that. This will be struck down by the courts.
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Speaker 4: I promise you doj said that. Even the White House
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Speaker 4: Council said that every lawyer around Biden said, this ain't
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Speaker 4: going to survive. And you know what they said, we
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Speaker 4: don't care. We're going to announce it because their view
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Speaker 4: is they think young people are stupid, and they think
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Speaker 4: young people will be like, ooh, free stuff, vote for Democrats.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, again twenty twenty two, they enjoyed
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Speaker 4: some electoral success. Now let's be clear, Biden's done it again.
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Speaker 4: He announced a brand new I'm giving away hundreds of
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Speaker 4: billions of dollars of student loans. That's gonna be struck down.
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Speaker 3: Two.
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Speaker 4: Biden knows it, but he thinks young people are morons,
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Speaker 4: and so he thinks he will buy votes, and so
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Speaker 4: this announcement is entirely designed. In three weeks, he's going
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Speaker 4: to be debating Donald Trump, and he's gonna stand on
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Speaker 4: the debate stage and he's gonna say Donald. He's not
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Speaker 4: gonna call him mister President. He's called him Donald Donald.
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Speaker 4: I just entered an executive order to secure the border
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Speaker 4: because you and he's gonna blame Donald Trump. You killed
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Speaker 4: the fabulous bipartisan bill that would have solved this problem. Now,
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Speaker 4: every syllable of every word of that sense this is
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Speaker 4: a lie. And I'm gonna wager you a white claw.
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Speaker 1: I can't anything else. Those things are terrible.
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Speaker 4: You don't want to win the wager you get what
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Speaker 4: are you doing?
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Speaker 1: And not for a white claw that's losing.
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Speaker 4: By the way, for those of you all listening, why
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Speaker 4: are we wagering a white claw? Because when I was
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Speaker 4: riding in the Houston Astros victory parade for winning the
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Speaker 4: World Series, some lefty twenty something guy through not one
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Speaker 4: but two white claws at me and and and so
11:32
Speaker 4: that's why we wager a white claw because and the
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Speaker 4: secret is Ben really loves the raspberry pomegranate with the
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Speaker 4: umbrella white.
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Speaker 3: By the way, far.
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Speaker 2: Boone's farm by Blueberry for for Christmas this year.
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you something.
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Speaker 4: If you admit you love white claw, does old miss
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Speaker 4: sind your diploma?
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Speaker 1: They should? They absolutely, Actually.
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Speaker 4: They don't miss it. Be like you're not a graduate
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Speaker 4: of our university.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I go.
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Speaker 1: Back at diploma. That's that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just the blasphemy right there, my friend's blasphemy.
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Speaker 1: I would rather go now. I almost said Miller Lite.
12:18
Speaker 1: I take that. I mean bud Light.
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Speaker 3: I take that back.
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Speaker 2: It's like a hard one between bud light or I
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Speaker 2: big white. No, it's not bud light.
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Speaker 4: White Claw over bud Light. That's not even close, dude,
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Speaker 4: Yeah it's light.
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Speaker 1: I can't go back.
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Speaker 3: All right, So let me say this.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, all right, I'm gonna make a
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Speaker 4: connection to the Houston Astros World Series twenty twenty two
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Speaker 4: we're winning it. I've been so for the last seven years.
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Speaker 4: Houston Astros have been in the ALCS for seven years consecutively.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 4: My youngest daughter, Catherine, she's thirteen now. She was seven
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Speaker 4: when we won the first World Series in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 4: We have been to virtually every single home game in
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Speaker 4: the playoffs for the last seven years. It's been I
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Speaker 4: got to say, actually, as a dad, what a joy
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Speaker 4: it has been to like take your daughter. These are memories.
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Speaker 4: And I keep telling her she's sort of used to it.
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Speaker 4: In fact, she made a comment a year or two ago,
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Speaker 4: She's like, hey, Dad, when are we going to go
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Speaker 4: to the playoff? Well, when are we gonna go to
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Speaker 4: an Astros game? Because we hadn't been in a while. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: And I made a comment. I felt incredibly embarrassed as
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Speaker 4: I said, I said, well, wait to the playoffs. And
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Speaker 4: I like stopped and I'm like, Catherine, oh my goodness,
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Speaker 4: I'm tempting the baseball gods.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, like I immediately told her, but I'm gonna
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Speaker 4: tell you another Catherine comment, which you'll really like. So
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, and you know, my girls very very well, yep.
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Speaker 4: But twenty twenty two, so alcs, we're getting ready to
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Speaker 4: head and and you had the Yankees in Cleveland playing,
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Speaker 4: and Catherine asked me, she said, okay, who do we
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Speaker 4: want to win? Because we'd already made it the and
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Speaker 4: the Yankees in Cleveland were still playing, and I said, well,
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Speaker 4: the Yankees are better. So if we want to say
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Speaker 4: what maximizes the chance of the Astros winning, we probably
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Speaker 4: want Cleveland. And Catherine, at age eleven, I think it was,
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Speaker 4: she said, Dad, no, if we're gonna win, I want
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Speaker 4: to beat the best. I want the Yankees to win,
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Speaker 4: and I want to beat them. And I got to
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Speaker 4: tell you, as a dad, I don't know that there's
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Speaker 4: been a moment I've been more proud of that girl.
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Speaker 3: I'm like that, that is my daughter. That's stout.
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Speaker 2: See that's when you know you raise them right right there.
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Speaker 2: You just got to get them addicted to the sports
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Speaker 2: and your home team.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, to be clear, the Yankees won
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Speaker 4: and then we swept them in four games. And I
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Speaker 4: went to Yankee Stadium for Game four and we beat
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Speaker 4: them in Yankee Stadium and I was in bright orange
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Speaker 4: Astro's colors and it was glorious. And I will say,
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Speaker 4: by the way, we have a crap ton of listeners
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Speaker 4: on Verdict who live in New York. I'm sorry, but
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Speaker 4: as Houstonian, I take great joy in our beating the Yankees.
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Speaker 2: That part about going, hey, trust me, they gave you
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Speaker 2: enough high fives in the air, right, you know, I
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Speaker 2: had at the least I had.
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Speaker 4: At least two hundred New Yorkers suggests that I do
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Speaker 4: something anatomically impossible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you know you're in a playoff game.
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Speaker 4: And I mean bright art and I'm just smiling, and
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Speaker 4: all I say is I point up and I'd say scoreboard,
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Speaker 4: and they're just like, ah, I'm like, I hope you
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Speaker 4: enjoy watching the World Series on TV.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: I will say this right now, the Astro season is
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Speaker 4: less than optimal. So maybe they turn it around, but
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Speaker 4: it's not feeling like a fantastic year right now.
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Speaker 2: All right, I got to ask you two questions real
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Speaker 2: quick about the border one of them, and I want
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Speaker 2: to know your thoughts because I'm genuinely torn on this.
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Speaker 2: You NBC News, they came out and they're like, Hey,
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Speaker 2: this executive at order from Biden is one that probably
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Speaker 2: isn't going to have that big of an impact. And
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Speaker 2: at first I'm like, Wow, they're telling the truth. But
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Speaker 2: then there was a second part of this in my mind,
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Speaker 2: and I want to know your thoughts. Is this NBC
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Speaker 2: News carrying water for the White House to those that
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Speaker 2: are angry that Biden would even think about using an
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Speaker 2: executive action that looks like something quote Trump would have done,
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Speaker 2: right or did that's a better way of putting it.
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Speaker 2: And so they're trying to kind of wink and nod
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Speaker 2: to the hardcore extremist space of his movement that hey, guys,
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Speaker 2: don't worry. This is all for the cameras, this is
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Speaker 2: all for show. This isn't actually to secure the border.
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Speaker 2: We're fine, We're going to keep flooding America. And I
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Speaker 2: want your response after I play it, listen.
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Speaker 5: Based on the details of this executive order and how
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Speaker 5: it actually function functions that we've learned so far today,
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Speaker 5: I actually have to say I'm quite skeptical that this
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Speaker 5: is going to have any kind of immediate, widespread, dramatic
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Speaker 5: impact on the border, on the number of migrants we're
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Speaker 5: crossing the border, on the number of migrants who managed
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Speaker 5: to stay in the United.
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Speaker 3: States as a result.
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Speaker 5: And there's a few complicated reasons for that, but the
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Speaker 5: main one is that I and a lot of other
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Speaker 5: people were expecting that this authority to quote unquote close
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Speaker 5: down the border was going to be dependent on the
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Speaker 5: United States being able to summarily expel migrants with no
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Speaker 5: due process, no access to the assylum system, immediately back
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Speaker 5: into Mexico shortly after they cross. That does not appear
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Speaker 5: to be the case, mainly because Mexico has not agreed
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Speaker 5: to accept any more migrants than it already does. Mexico
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Speaker 5: has pretty strict specific requirements on the number of migrants
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Speaker 5: that it acts accepts and on the nationality of migrants
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Speaker 5: that it accepts, and the US cannot simply return people
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Speaker 5: to Mexico without Mexico's active participation.
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Speaker 2: It's weird because, like, all right, they're telling the truth.
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Speaker 2: But is it because they want the Biden sports to know, Hey,
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Speaker 2: don't worry, this is all fake.
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Speaker 4: Look, I think that's actually a little too cynical. And
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Speaker 4: I'll rarely say that. I actually think the NBC reporter
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Speaker 4: was telling the truth there. I think he was saying,
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Speaker 4: this is not going to be effective, and I'm going
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Speaker 4: to make a prediction. I'm actually going to make prediction
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Speaker 4: that's going to surprise you. I think this order will
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Speaker 4: be marginally more effective than NBC just said it would be.
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Speaker 4: Really and here's why. We're five months out from an election.
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Speaker 4: I think the Biden administration wants the numbers of the
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Speaker 4: border to drop, and I think what we're going to
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Speaker 4: see is we're going to see a drop. I'm going
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Speaker 4: to make a prediction We're going to see a drop
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Speaker 4: in illegal immigration of twenty percent, enough that they can
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Speaker 4: say the president took bold action and delivered results and
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Speaker 4: understand he controls this. Yeah, the reason we have an
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Speaker 4: invasion is because Joe Biden and the Democrats wanted it.
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Speaker 4: So he can reduce the numbers. And I think he's
18:43
Speaker 4: going to direct his Homeland Security Apartment for the next
18:46
Speaker 4: five months stop letting as many illegals go now. To
18:53
Speaker 4: be clear, if God forbid Biden wins in November, the
18:56
Speaker 4: numbers of skyrocket immediately. They want this invasion. They want
19:00
Speaker 4: eleven million to become fifteen million, to become twenty million,
19:02
Speaker 4: to become thirty million, because they view it as this
19:05
Speaker 4: is how we the Democrats stand in power forever. So
19:09
Speaker 4: This is a short It's like gas prices, it's like
19:12
Speaker 4: student loans. It's a short, little burst right before the
19:16
Speaker 4: election that they're gambling. Number one, they know the corporate
19:19
Speaker 4: media will lie and say, oh, Biden solve the border.
19:23
Speaker 4: But number two, they're hoping that voters who are not
19:27
Speaker 4: engaged will be deceived by this. So I am predicting,
19:32
Speaker 4: and there are fairly few Republicans and Conservatives who are
19:36
Speaker 4: predicting this. I'm predicting the numbers will go down between
19:39
Speaker 4: now an election day. But it is purely political camouflage
19:46
Speaker 4: designed to fool the voters, and I don't think it's
19:48
Speaker 4: going to work. I think the American people are actually
19:51
Speaker 4: quite savvy. I don't think they're stupid.
19:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've seen the crime that has come with
19:55
Speaker 2: the legal immigrants as well. They've seen it that every
19:57
Speaker 2: major city in America now is a border ste Now.
20:00
Speaker 3: So let me jump in, let me jump in on that. Ben.
20:03
Speaker 4: You look at this week, you had two New York
20:07
Speaker 4: police officers who were shot, and they were shot by
20:11
Speaker 4: the illegal immigrant that Joe Biden released. And this was
20:14
Speaker 4: a Venezuelan. He was a Venezuelan illegal immigrant. His name
20:18
Speaker 4: was Bernardo Raoul Castro Mata. Now this is a name
20:26
Speaker 4: out of Charles Dickens. Mata is Spanish for he kills.
20:35
Speaker 4: His middle name is literally a communist murdering dictatories named
20:41
Speaker 4: after Raoul Castro. This Venezuelan illegal immigrant came to America,
20:46
Speaker 4: came to Texas. He was apprehended an eagle pass. Now,
20:50
Speaker 4: if Joe Biden and the Democrats had just said we're
20:52
Speaker 4: going to follow the law, they would put him on
20:54
Speaker 4: a plane. They will send them back to Venezuela. They
20:56
Speaker 4: didn't do that. They let him go. He went to
20:58
Speaker 4: New York and he shot two police officers. By the way,
21:03
Speaker 4: Joe Biden could have entered this executive order a month
21:05
Speaker 4: ago or two months ago, or three months ago or
21:09
Speaker 4: four months ago or five months ago or three years ago,
21:12
Speaker 4: and he could have prevented this individual from being released.
21:15
Speaker 3: He didn't do that.
21:16
Speaker 4: He could have prevented Lake and Riley from being murdered,
21:18
Speaker 4: He didn't do that. He could have prevented Jeremy Casra's
21:20
Speaker 4: from being murdered. He didn't do that. But they because
21:26
Speaker 4: Biden has the control over the dial, he is going
21:30
Speaker 4: to reduce the numbers enough that the press can claim
21:35
Speaker 4: Biden has solved the problem. It will be a lie,
21:39
Speaker 4: but they're going to say it.
21:41
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Speaker 2: Senator on one final question, what approach do you think
23:47
Speaker 2: Donald Trump should take in the debate coming up about
23:50
Speaker 2: this executive action? Does he come at the President and say, look,
23:53
Speaker 2: this is the bare minimum still that you could have done.
23:56
Speaker 2: You're playing politics. If you were serious about it, you
23:58
Speaker 2: would have reimplemented building the wall. If you were serious
24:01
Speaker 2: about securing the border, you would have done the things
24:03
Speaker 2: I was doing. And there's a list of things that
24:05
Speaker 2: he had in place. What should he say.
24:09
Speaker 3: He should prosecute the case.
24:10
Speaker 4: For three and a half years, you presided over an
24:13
Speaker 4: criminal invasion of the United States of America. We have
24:16
Speaker 4: seen people dying across this country. We have seen children
24:20
Speaker 4: being brutalized. We've seen women being raped. We have seen
24:23
Speaker 4: in the last couple of years, over one hundred thousand
24:26
Speaker 4: Americans dying year after year after year of drug overdoses,
24:30
Speaker 4: fent in all over doses. All of that is your fault.
24:34
Speaker 4: Why did you allow and by the way, you've made
24:37
Speaker 4: Mexican dreg cartels multi billionaires in the most powerful forces
24:42
Speaker 4: in the country of Mexico. You've utterly destroyed Mexico. Why
24:47
Speaker 4: have you done? And you've put out a red carpet
24:50
Speaker 4: for every jihadist, every Hamas terrorist, every Hesbala terrist who
24:54
Speaker 4: wants to murder Americans. You have had an open invitation
24:58
Speaker 4: two million got aways in this kind of tree. Why
25:02
Speaker 4: have you allowed America to be invaded? And he'll come
25:05
Speaker 4: back with oh I just did an order. He had
25:07
Speaker 4: nonsense three and a half years, eleven million people. Why
25:11
Speaker 4: did you allow America to be invaded? He needs to
25:14
Speaker 4: prosecute the case. And then he also needs and we're
25:18
Speaker 4: going to talk more about the debate as we get
25:20
Speaker 4: close to it, he needs to let Joe Biden talk.
25:25
Speaker 4: I will say, if you go back to twenty twenty
25:27
Speaker 4: the first debate, Trump talked a lot. He was so
25:31
Speaker 4: eager to talk that he bailed Joe Biden out. The
25:35
Speaker 4: man is is is senile and has dementia.
25:39
Speaker 3: Let him talk, Let him talk.
25:41
Speaker 2: A great, great point speaking of letting people talk. Doctor
25:45
Speaker 2: Fauci was in front of Congress. And this is a
25:48
Speaker 2: guy that is an unbelievable narcissist that was elected by
25:52
Speaker 2: no one. I think we prove it on the show
25:54
Speaker 2: before he is I am the science, Ben I am
25:57
Speaker 2: the science.
25:58
Speaker 1: I am science.
25:59
Speaker 4: By the way capital T and capitals, I am the science.
26:04
Speaker 2: This is a guy who I think it's pretty clear,
26:06
Speaker 2: lied to Congress. You look at what he said back
26:09
Speaker 2: even in twenty twenty one compared to what he said
26:12
Speaker 2: before Congress. There's a montage I want to play and
26:14
Speaker 2: I'm going to get your reaction to it. But it's
26:16
Speaker 2: it's obvious. Fauci basically says, I didn't do anything wrong.
26:20
Speaker 2: Everything was right. I do it all over again, and
26:23
Speaker 2: know you're not going to get me to admit that
26:25
Speaker 2: we screwed up on anything, or most importantly, that we
26:28
Speaker 2: deliberately lied to the American people. That you're gonna know
26:33
Speaker 2: which Fauci's from twenty twenty one if you pay attention
26:36
Speaker 2: compared to what it sounded like on Capitol Hill in
26:39
Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours.
26:40
Speaker 1: Take a listen.
26:41
Speaker 6: Did the COVID vaccine stop transmission of the virus?
26:46
Speaker 7: That is a complicated issue because in the beginning, the
26:49
Speaker 7: first iteration of the vaccines did have an effect, not
26:54
Speaker 7: one hundred percent, not a high effect. They did prevent
26:59
Speaker 7: infection and subsequently obviously transmission.
27:03
Speaker 3: However, it's important to point out.
27:06
Speaker 7: Something that we did not know early on that became
27:10
Speaker 7: evident as the months went by, is that the durability
27:14
Speaker 7: of protection against infection and hence transmission was relatively limited,
27:21
Speaker 7: whereas the duration of protection against severe disease hospitalization and
27:27
Speaker 7: deaths was more prolonged.
27:29
Speaker 3: We did not know that in the beginning.
27:32
Speaker 7: In the beginning, it was felt that in fact it
27:35
Speaker 7: did prevent infection and thus transmission, but that was proven
27:39
Speaker 7: as time went by to not be a durable effect.
27:42
Speaker 7: When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own
27:45
Speaker 7: health that of the family, but also you contribute to
27:49
Speaker 7: the community help by preventing the spread of the virus
27:53
Speaker 7: throughout the community.
27:54
Speaker 8: In other words, you become a dead end to the virus.
27:57
Speaker 8: And when there are a lot of dead ends around,
27:59
Speaker 8: the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that's
28:01
Speaker 8: when you get a point that you have a markedly
28:04
Speaker 8: diminished rate of infection in the community. And that's exactly
28:08
Speaker 8: the reason, and you said it very well of why
28:10
Speaker 8: we encourage people and want people to get vaccinated. The
28:14
Speaker 8: more people you get vaccinated, the safe of the entire
28:17
Speaker 8: community is.
28:20
Speaker 2: That was Fauci in twenty twenty four. At the beginning,
28:23
Speaker 2: Fauci in twenty twenty one, and he's sitting there and
28:26
Speaker 2: he's acting like he never said what he said in
28:28
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. He flied out, lied to the American people,
28:32
Speaker 2: and he knew he was lying to them, but it
28:35
Speaker 2: was to go all in no matter what.
28:39
Speaker 4: So doctor Anthony Fauci is the most dangerous in damaging
28:42
Speaker 4: American bureaucrat in the history of the United States of America.
28:46
Speaker 4: He was willing to put politics ahead of science. He
28:50
Speaker 4: did more damage to science and medicine than any person
28:54
Speaker 4: in our lifetime. People no longer believe what the so
28:58
Speaker 4: called experts say because Anthony Fauci was willing to say
29:02
Speaker 4: what was politically convenient rather than follow the science. The
29:06
Speaker 4: policies he advocated were was disastrous. He advocated shutting down
29:11
Speaker 4: businesses across the country that lost billions, if not trillions
29:14
Speaker 4: of dollars. He advocated shutting down schools across the country.
29:20
Speaker 4: I think we will look back one hundred years from
29:22
Speaker 4: now as that being the most catastrophically stupid public policy
29:27
Speaker 4: in modern times. Children tens of millions of children for
29:34
Speaker 4: more than a year did not go to school. The
29:37
Speaker 4: damage they faced, the learning loss they face, is massive.
29:41
Speaker 4: And by the way, nobody has done more harm to
29:44
Speaker 4: African American and Hispanic kids than Anthony Fauci because shutting
29:48
Speaker 4: down schools had a disproportionate impact on minority kids. He
29:53
Speaker 4: did enormous damage. He advocated shutting down churches, shutting down
29:57
Speaker 4: gym shutting down stores, shutting America. He also advocated mask
30:01
Speaker 4: mandates despite the fact that there was no science behind it.
30:04
Speaker 4: He also advocated vaccine mandates despite the fact there was
30:08
Speaker 4: no science behind it, and vaccine mandates for children and
30:11
Speaker 4: there was zero science behind it. And yet he is brazen.
30:16
Speaker 4: He is unapologetic. He is proud of his role shutting
30:21
Speaker 4: the country down. You mentioned that he's unapologetic. Congressman Jim
30:25
Speaker 4: Jordan a good friend of the show. Here he questioned
30:28
Speaker 4: fauci on US tax dollars going to a grant recipient
30:33
Speaker 4: to the lab directly in China. I want you to
30:37
Speaker 4: hear what he had to say when he was asked
30:39
Speaker 4: about this. It was honestly a little bit shocking to hear,
30:43
Speaker 4: just the arrogance from Fauci.
30:45
Speaker 3: As prior to that call would have been on the call. Well,
30:47
Speaker 3: the quill was arranged by Jeremy Farrah. You should ask him.
30:50
Speaker 9: Okay, did US tax dollars flow through a grant recipient
30:53
Speaker 9: to the lab in China? I'm sorry, did US tax
30:58
Speaker 9: dollars flow through a grant recipient to the lab in China?
31:01
Speaker 3: Yes?
31:02
Speaker 7: Of course it was a sub award to the one
31:04
Speaker 7: who approved that award, excuse me, and who approved that award.
31:07
Speaker 3: What agency approved that award?
31:09
Speaker 7: National Institute of Ology and Infectious Disease.
31:11
Speaker 3: Your agency approved that, right, yes it did.
31:14
Speaker 9: After does that have anything to do with this downplaying
31:16
Speaker 9: the lab leak theory?
31:18
Speaker 3: No, nothing to do with it. Nothing.
31:21
Speaker 2: What This is a guy that still wants you to
31:24
Speaker 2: believe that the lab week theory was a theory and
31:26
Speaker 2: not reality and that this somehow came from a wet market.
31:30
Speaker 2: There and then the other question that was asked of
31:33
Speaker 2: him was from Representative Brad Winthrop, a Republican from Ohio.
31:38
Speaker 2: This was the question he asked, and listen to the
31:41
Speaker 2: anger from Fauci.
31:43
Speaker 6: The vaccine saved millions of lives, and I want to
31:45
Speaker 6: thank you for your support and engagement on that. However,
31:49
Speaker 6: despite statements to the contrary, it did not stop transmission
31:54
Speaker 6: of the virus. Did the COVID vaccine stop transmission of
31:58
Speaker 6: the virus?
32:00
Speaker 7: That is a complicated issue because in the beginning, the
32:03
Speaker 7: first iteration of the vaccines did have an effect, not
32:08
Speaker 7: one hundred.
32:09
Speaker 3: Percent, not a high effect.
32:11
Speaker 7: They did prevent infection and subsequently obviously transmission. However, it's
32:18
Speaker 7: important to point out something that we did not know
32:22
Speaker 7: early on that became evident as the months went by,
32:27
Speaker 7: is that the durability of protection against infection and hence
32:32
Speaker 7: transmission was relatively limited, whereas the duration of protection against
32:38
Speaker 7: severe disease hospitalization and deaths was more prolonged.
32:43
Speaker 3: We did not know that in the beginning. In the beginning, it.
32:47
Speaker 7: Was felt that, in fact it did prevent infection and
32:50
Speaker 7: thus transmission, but that was proven as time went by
32:54
Speaker 7: to not be a durable effect.
32:58
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I didn't really get it wrong.
33:01
Speaker 2: It was just, you know, the science that I'm in
33:04
Speaker 2: charge of was not what we thought it was. They'll
33:06
Speaker 2: never admit they really screwed up on any of this.
33:10
Speaker 4: So listen, let me give a moment a benefit of
33:13
Speaker 4: the doubt to Fauci.
33:15
Speaker 3: I agree.
33:15
Speaker 4: When this pandemic was starting, people didn't know what we
33:19
Speaker 4: were facing. No, people were concerned, and there were people dying,
33:24
Speaker 4: and in the face of a pandemic, I understand the decisions. Look,
33:30
Speaker 4: Donald Trump signed off on shutdowns early on the decision
33:35
Speaker 4: to have shutdowns for a week or two.
33:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was two weeks, remember, to stop the spread.
33:40
Speaker 3: Two weeks to stop the spread.
33:42
Speaker 4: In hindsight, that was a mistake, But I can understand
33:45
Speaker 4: why people made the decision. At the time, we didn't know,
33:48
Speaker 4: we didn't know what the spreading was, we didn't know
33:51
Speaker 4: about what the lethality was, and it was trying to
33:54
Speaker 4: save lives. If Fauci said, listen, we had limited information.
33:58
Speaker 4: We were trying to do steps to stop the spread
34:02
Speaker 4: of a contagious virus, and these were steps that made sense.
34:06
Speaker 4: That would not be a crazy thing to say. But
34:08
Speaker 4: by the way, he doesn't admit any mistakes. And what
34:12
Speaker 4: Fauci did that was fundamentally wrong, is he elevated politics
34:17
Speaker 4: above science. If he admitted we didn't know at the
34:20
Speaker 4: time we made those decisions. In hindsight, some of those
34:23
Speaker 4: decisions were right, some were wrong, that would be rational.
34:27
Speaker 4: But his position is everything we did was right. Be
34:31
Speaker 4: glad we shut your schools down. Be glad your children
34:35
Speaker 4: didn't go to school for a year. Be glad their
34:37
Speaker 4: mass scores and reading scores have dropped. Be glad that
34:39
Speaker 4: they will face learning loss for the rest of their lives.
34:42
Speaker 4: Be grateful that we, the benevolent dictators, did that. There
34:47
Speaker 4: is an arrogance this man. Look, he publicly says, when
34:52
Speaker 4: you attack me, you are attacking the science. Because I
34:55
Speaker 4: am the science. There is an arrogance. He embodied the
35:00
Speaker 4: leftist arrogance. And to be clear, look, he early on
35:05
Speaker 4: when people asked him, okay, our masks do they make sense,
35:11
Speaker 4: he said, no, you shouldn't wear masks. They don't do
35:14
Speaker 4: any good. A mask is not going to stop the
35:17
Speaker 4: spread of a virus. And then going forward he said
35:20
Speaker 4: everyone's got to be masked. And he didn't explain the change.
35:23
Speaker 4: And by the way, when it came to the Wulhan lab,
35:26
Speaker 4: leap understand Anthony Fauci personally funded the research that I
35:31
Speaker 4: believe created the COVID virus. He was desperate to cover
35:36
Speaker 4: his own ass. He was desperate to argue no came
35:39
Speaker 4: from a wet market. We now know that is false.
35:42
Speaker 4: But he reached out. He asked Mark Zuckerberg, will Facebook
35:46
Speaker 4: suppress any allegations that this came from a Chinese government lab.
35:52
Speaker 4: And to be clear, I want you to go back
35:54
Speaker 4: if you look at this podcast. In March and April
35:59
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty eight, at the beginning of COVID, we
36:02
Speaker 4: did two different podcasts on Verdict where we let out
36:06
Speaker 4: the evidence. Then early on that I thought the clear
36:09
Speaker 4: evidence was this virus escaped from a government lab. I
36:14
Speaker 4: think that is now overwhelming. It is almost indisputable as strong,
36:20
Speaker 4: but it is clearly the overwhelming way to the evidence
36:24
Speaker 4: is that it escaped from a Chinese government lab. And
36:27
Speaker 4: I think the majority of the evidence this is not
36:29
Speaker 4: as strong, but I think it is greater than fifty percent,
36:33
Speaker 4: is that this virus was deliberately created by the Chinese government.
36:37
Speaker 4: Now I don't think they created it because they wanted
36:39
Speaker 4: people to die. I think they were creating it because
36:41
Speaker 4: they were engaged in research and they were irresponsible and reckless.
36:45
Speaker 4: But they took viruses and they made them that they
36:49
Speaker 4: engaged in gain of function research, which is they made
36:52
Speaker 4: them more deadly, and they made them more transmissible to humans,
36:57
Speaker 4: and then I think the virus escaped in the world
36:59
Speaker 4: faced back.
37:00
Speaker 2: There's something else that's also very shocking, and that is
37:04
Speaker 2: doctor Fauci has asked a very simple question, and I'll
37:07
Speaker 2: wrap with this, but it's an important one, and that
37:11
Speaker 2: was about the unvaccinated. And I want you to hear
37:15
Speaker 2: just some of the kind of disdain they're still shaming
37:18
Speaker 2: the unvaccinated.
37:19
Speaker 3: Yes, it's proven that.
37:21
Speaker 10: And do you also agree that it's saved hundreds of
37:24
Speaker 10: thousands and possibly millions of lives in America and across
37:27
Speaker 10: the world.
37:29
Speaker 7: That is absolutely correct, and it's very clear that it's
37:32
Speaker 7: saved millions of lives here and throughout the world. The
37:37
Speaker 7: Europeans have done the same studies that we have, and
37:40
Speaker 7: the data are incontrovertible that they save lives.
37:45
Speaker 10: Sir, And do you think the American public should listen
37:47
Speaker 10: to America's brightest and best doctors and scientists or instead
37:52
Speaker 10: listen to podcasters, conspiracy theorists, and unhinged Facebook memes.
37:58
Speaker 7: Now I'm listening to people who you just described is
38:02
Speaker 7: going to do nothing but harm people because they will
38:04
Speaker 7: deprive themselves of life saving interventions, which has happened.
38:09
Speaker 3: And you know some have done studies.
38:12
Speaker 7: Fido Hootz has done an analysis of this and shows
38:16
Speaker 7: that in people who refuse to get vaccinated for any
38:20
Speaker 7: a variety of reasons probably responsible for an additional two
38:24
Speaker 7: to three hundred thousand deaths in this.
38:27
Speaker 2: An additional two to three hundred thousand deaths in this country.
38:31
Speaker 2: They're still shaming anyone that asks a question. Remember the ivermectino.
38:35
Speaker 2: You guys are getting horse to warmers. I mean the
38:37
Speaker 2: list goes on and on.
38:40
Speaker 4: And by the way, in a subsequent pod, we should
38:43
Speaker 4: play Chris Cuomo when it was called out for his
38:47
Speaker 4: lying on ivermectin. But it is the corporate media crawled
38:53
Speaker 4: in bed with Anthony Fauci, crawled in bed with the
38:58
Speaker 4: left wing, dishonest political, scientific medical world, and they just
39:04
Speaker 4: lied to people. And I will say, if you look
39:06
Speaker 4: at something like COVID vaccines for children, for children under six,
39:12
Speaker 4: there was zero scientific evidence to back that. I get
39:17
Speaker 4: why someone who was eighty or ninety, or even someone
39:19
Speaker 4: who was fifty or sixty made the decision to get
39:22
Speaker 4: the COVID vaccine because look, you could make a rational
39:26
Speaker 4: cost benefit analysis that we don't know everything about this vaccine.
39:29
Speaker 4: There are risk to it, but we also know this
39:31
Speaker 4: is a very infectious disease and they're particularly for people
39:34
Speaker 4: who are health compromised, it can be really damaging. And
39:38
Speaker 4: so people who are older could make a rational decision
39:41
Speaker 4: to get the vaccine for a five or six year old.
39:46
Speaker 4: I think there was no rational decision to give a
39:49
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Speaker 4: Well that's exactly right. Later today, I'm gonna get on
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Speaker 10: Of D Day.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Normandy.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to be there for the celebration. President Biden's
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Speaker 4: going to be there. We're going to have about twenty
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Speaker 1: Go on Air Force one. Are you are now? You guys,
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Speaker 1: so you didn't get the invite?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 4: Now, why would he possibly bring any of us. We're
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Speaker 4: going to go on a separate plane, but we'll be
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Speaker 4: over there. And I get to say, I'm excited. So
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Speaker 4: five years ago was the seventy fifth anniversary of D Day,
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Speaker 4: I've kicked myself. I've been mad at myself that I
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Speaker 4: didn't go to the seventy fifth anniversary.
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Speaker 3: I missed it.
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Speaker 4: And so for this one, listen, the eightieth. This is
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Speaker 4: particularly special because if you were nineteen years old in
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Speaker 4: World War Two, you're ninety nine now. Yeah, this is
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Speaker 4: in all likelihood the last major anniversary where we will
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Speaker 4: have living veterans from World War Two. The people are
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Speaker 4: going to be there, are going to be ninety eight,
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Speaker 4: ninety nine, one hundred hundred and one hundred and two
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Speaker 4: hundred three. It is gonna be an incredible privilege to
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Speaker 4: heroism and American leadership and I'm thrilled. I'm really really
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Speaker 4: looking forward to this. It's gonna be and we're gonna
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Speaker 4: do the next podcast from France. I'm gonna record, I'm
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Speaker 4: so we're gonna talk to you from France and and
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Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about that.
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Speaker 2: And it's gonna be awesome. I cannot wait. Be safe
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Speaker 2: you back here Friday, as he will be celebrating that
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Speaker 2: eightieth anniversary in Normandy. Will see a Friday morning for
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