Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Top Hollywood Director Crystle Roberson, directed episodes of Black Mafia Family (STARZ), The Gilded Age for HBO, Greenleaf (OWN), All American (CW), Diary of a Future President (Disney+), American Soul (BET), Long Slow Exhale (Paramount),
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversations.
- 0:06Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success
- 0:08Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I
- 0:12Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And
- 0:14Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know
- 0:17Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make
- 0:21Speaker 2: because it's what he likes to do.
- 0:23Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald
- 0:27Speaker 2: money making conversations.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Here we go, Welcome to money making conversation. He's announced
- 0:33Speaker 3: my name and I have to step up to it.
- 0:35Speaker 3: I am Rashan McDonald. Our theme is every Tuesday, every week.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Our theme is there's no perfect time to start following
- 0:42Speaker 3: your dreams. That's the thing. A lot of people don't
- 0:45Speaker 3: know when to start. A lot of people are afraid
- 0:46Speaker 3: to start. But if you start, at least you can
- 0:49Speaker 3: hear it in the direction that may makes some sense.
- 0:51Speaker 3: The problem I have with people that they just sit
- 0:53Speaker 3: there complaining, going to the same job, complaining, probably dating
- 0:58Speaker 3: the same person, complain, married to the same person, complaining.
- 1:03Speaker 3: If you start moving the complaints out the way, you
- 1:06Speaker 3: can probably start moving forward with some positivity in your life.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Stop creating your own level of negativity because I recognize
- 1:13Speaker 3: that we all have different definitions of success. For you,
- 1:16Speaker 3: it may be the size of your paycheck. Mine is
- 1:18Speaker 3: inspiring you to accomplish your goal, your goal and live
- 1:21Speaker 3: your very best life. It's time to stop reading other
- 1:23Speaker 3: people's success stories and start living your own.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:28Speaker 3: I hear that a lot people always talk about their
- 1:30Speaker 3: purpose or gifts. If you have a gift, lead with
- 1:32Speaker 3: your gift and don't let your friend's family will cowork
- 1:34Speaker 3: and stop you from planning or living your dream. Today's
- 1:37Speaker 3: show really is about black girl magic. That's the person
- 1:40Speaker 3: I am about to interview is truly black girl magic.
- 1:44Speaker 3: My guess is a writer, director, and producer. Crystal Robison
- 1:48Speaker 3: Christal is a member of the Director's Guild of America
- 1:51Speaker 3: and has directed episodes of Green Leaf, All American Dire
- 1:55Speaker 3: or Future President, American Soul, Long Soul, O Slow Exhale,
- 2:01Speaker 3: Black Mafia Family BML, and The Gilded Age. She's also
- 2:06Speaker 3: Enjoyed and George, serving as a producing director on Queen's
- 2:09Speaker 3: which is on ABC, and Genius which is a great
- 2:12Speaker 3: series you can find on that geo. She's an enthusiastic
- 2:15Speaker 3: writer with projects and development and remains excited about storytellers
- 2:19Speaker 3: for generations to come. And she's African American. Please work
- 2:22Speaker 3: with the Money Making Conversations Master Class, Crystal Roberson.
- 2:25Speaker 1: How are you doing, Crystal?
- 2:26Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Rishawn, thanks for having me.
- 2:29Speaker 3: First of all, how do you have time to talk
- 2:31Speaker 3: to me? How do you have time to talk to
- 2:34Speaker 3: me on my little show, Money Making Conversations Maths Class.
- 2:39Speaker 4: Well, you know, first of all, it's not a little show.
- 2:41Speaker 5: Hear.
- 2:43Speaker 4: A lot of my friends are big fans of your show.
- 2:46Speaker 4: And right now, you know, in the film industry, we
- 2:48Speaker 4: do a show and then we have a break. So
- 2:51Speaker 4: I'm enjoying a break right now. I start prepping on
- 2:55Speaker 4: being math next week. But for now, I am relaxing
- 2:59Speaker 4: in Los angele lists enjoy my off time.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Well, thank you, will thank you for the compliment on
- 3:04Speaker 1: the show.
- 3:05Speaker 3: But let's let's talk about because I know, I jokingly said,
- 3:08Speaker 3: because being a director is not a forty hour week job.
- 3:11Speaker 3: It's not going to work at eight leaving it five.
- 3:13Speaker 3: It's not Oh can you stay a couple of hours. Oh,
- 3:15Speaker 3: we're gonna run a little over the five o'clock. You're
- 3:18Speaker 3: gonna be good with that, because that's why I know
- 3:20Speaker 3: that in season I could never interview you. When you're
- 3:23Speaker 3: an actual production, trying to interview you will be just
- 3:26Speaker 3: like a really like a waste of time because you
- 3:29Speaker 3: really can't dictate your schedule because anything.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Can pop up.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Can you get people like a capsule of what what
- 3:38Speaker 3: is the director's life like?
- 3:41Speaker 4: Yeah, so a director's life is you know when your
- 3:44Speaker 4: in production, Like you said, we go we shoot at
- 3:49Speaker 4: ten to twelve hour days every day, and so we
- 3:53Speaker 4: do that to just maximize the amount of scenes that
- 3:57Speaker 4: we can shoot in a day, and the mo the
- 4:00Speaker 4: more that we get done in the day, the less
- 4:02Speaker 4: time the overall show takes to be completed, and the
- 4:07Speaker 4: less money as well. So the more days you spend
- 4:10Speaker 4: doing it, the more money you're gonna spend. So they
- 4:13Speaker 4: try to push as much into a day as possible.
- 4:16Speaker 4: So that's why people in the film industry work twelve
- 4:20Speaker 4: hour days. So as a director, I get there at
- 4:24Speaker 4: call time. We have everything is unionized in the industry,
- 4:29Speaker 4: so that's why it's so unpredictable because you have to
- 4:34Speaker 4: have twelve hour turnaround. So if we've wrapped at eight
- 4:37Speaker 4: pm at night, we can't come in until eight am
- 4:40Speaker 4: or nine am the next day, and so we never
- 4:43Speaker 4: know kind of what time we're gonna wrap, So we
- 4:46Speaker 4: never know what time we're gonna start, you know, and
- 4:49Speaker 4: so it becomes hard to tell, like when your lunch
- 4:51Speaker 4: break is gonna be and all of that. But the
- 4:54Speaker 4: so the life of a director is very you know,
- 4:58Speaker 4: it's time consuming with uh when you're filming, and you
- 5:04Speaker 4: really have to try hard to do that work life
- 5:07Speaker 4: balance and maintain you know, relationships and everything with your
- 5:13Speaker 4: family and loved ones. But usually people are pretty understanding,
- 5:18Speaker 4: you know, people who love you, they understand. And then
- 5:22Speaker 4: you have great moments where like like I just wrapped
- 5:26Speaker 4: a Genius M l k X mid March and I've
- 5:30Speaker 4: had all of the rest of March.
- 5:32Speaker 3: And stuff right that it's not that I just wrap
- 5:37Speaker 3: email k X Martin Luther King Malcolm X. Now can
- 5:42Speaker 3: you give us a little because I saw the Aretha
- 5:46Speaker 3: series on Genius, which was amazing. What's amazing? I think
- 5:49Speaker 3: a Cynthia Riva was the was the play the Reva.
- 5:53Speaker 3: It was played Aretha in that series. Yes, and she
- 5:56Speaker 3: was amazing. And so what they do is they kind
- 5:59Speaker 3: of it's like maybe even where from four to six episode?
- 6:02Speaker 1: How many episodes was this was? This series? Was this
- 6:04Speaker 1: limited series for?
- 6:07Speaker 4: It was eight episodes?
- 6:08Speaker 1: Eight episodes and you directed all eight?
- 6:11Speaker 4: No, I directed about four or five. I've directed about
- 6:17Speaker 4: four out of the eighth.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Wow.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Okay, So talk walkers through that. First of all, what
- 6:22Speaker 3: is it the series about? Because you have two iconic
- 6:26Speaker 3: civil rights activists, both tragically were assassinated, Martin Luther King Jr.
- 6:31Speaker 3: And Malcolm X two.
- 6:33Speaker 1: One was pieced.
- 6:34Speaker 3: One was someone would say or advocated violence in the
- 6:38Speaker 3: sense that, you know, you got to fight for what
- 6:40Speaker 3: you want in America. So talk about bringing you on
- 6:44Speaker 3: board for that project and what did you have to
- 6:47Speaker 3: do to prep for it?
- 6:49Speaker 4: So what got made that job? You know, I had
- 6:54Speaker 4: just general meetings with people. You know, you want to know,
- 6:58Speaker 4: you want people to know who you are when you're
- 7:00Speaker 4: an African American, you know director coming up in the industry.
- 7:05Speaker 4: You know, I like everybody to meet. So I went
- 7:09Speaker 4: out on meetings. I had a lot of general meetings
- 7:12Speaker 4: and one of the producers who I'm of genius, I
- 7:16Speaker 4: met about two years prior to the Genius mlk X job,
- 7:23Speaker 4: Francie Calfo, So I met her in general, and she
- 7:27Speaker 4: really liked me, so she always sort of kept an
- 7:30Speaker 4: eye out for me for things. So when I saw
- 7:33Speaker 4: that Genius mlk X was coming up, I was like, wow,
- 7:36Speaker 4: I would love to direct on that show. And I
- 7:39Speaker 4: just reached out to her to see how she was doing.
- 7:42Speaker 4: You know, it's really about maintaining those relationships and knowing that,
- 7:47Speaker 4: like even though something might not come from it right now,
- 7:52Speaker 4: that you never know a year from now, two years
- 7:55Speaker 4: from now, it could pay off big. And that's what
- 7:57Speaker 4: happened with me. I had a general meeting, we hit
- 8:01Speaker 4: it off great, and then by you know, a while later,
- 8:05Speaker 4: mlk X was coming up, and I would have been
- 8:09Speaker 4: happy just to direct one episode of Genius m LKS,
- 8:14Speaker 4: but they saw me as a person who could be
- 8:17Speaker 4: a great producing director. So I was a producer as
- 8:21Speaker 4: well as a director on the on the series and
- 8:25Speaker 4: prepping for that really like tons of audio books. Wanted
- 8:30Speaker 4: to know not only Malcolm and Martin's story, but also
- 8:34Speaker 4: Karta and Betty's, you know, reading all the autobiographies. You know,
- 8:40Speaker 4: when you're a busy person. Auto audio books are the truth,
- 8:44Speaker 4: you know what. I'm so on the way in the work,
- 8:47Speaker 4: on the way to the grocery store wherever I was going,
- 8:50Speaker 4: I was listening to Malcolm Story, Martin Story, Kartta's or Betty's,
- 8:55Speaker 4: and I could and I could infuse that into the
- 8:58Speaker 4: work because when you come, when you come to that
- 9:00Speaker 4: type of work with the truth of what was actually
- 9:04Speaker 4: what actually happened, everyone there, the actors and everyone there
- 9:09Speaker 4: is at ease because they say, oh, our director really
- 9:12Speaker 4: knows this stuff. She knows what she's doing it.
- 9:15Speaker 3: But did it sadden you a little bit because of
- 9:17Speaker 3: the fact that you, you know, you learned some things
- 9:20Speaker 3: and then the value of their relationship was just snuffed
- 9:23Speaker 3: out so early in their lives and for just for
- 9:27Speaker 3: just for just for violent reasons when you were doing
- 9:30Speaker 3: your research, because I've done research on projects and I go,
- 9:33Speaker 3: wow it and it really touches me emotionally, and to
- 9:37Speaker 3: do too iconic men like this, Well, how did they
- 9:41Speaker 3: impact you personally?
- 9:43Speaker 4: Well, it was, Honestly, it was more inspiring for me
- 9:47Speaker 4: than I thought it would be, because, you know, even
- 9:50Speaker 4: though it's sad, they were both assassinated at age thirty nine.
- 9:55Speaker 4: But you know, it was very inspiring that these men
- 9:59Speaker 4: because I'm I'm thirty nine, you know, dare I say
- 10:02Speaker 4: my age on radio? But like it hit me because
- 10:07Speaker 4: I was like, wow, all the things that these men
- 10:09Speaker 4: dare to do by thirty nine years old. I mean,
- 10:14Speaker 4: they knew that they were putting their life on the line.
- 10:17Speaker 4: They knew that like they were on dangerous territory, they
- 10:21Speaker 4: knew the FBI was spying on them and out for them,
- 10:25Speaker 4: and they still saw the need to make sure that
- 10:30Speaker 4: they stood up for what they believed in. And that
- 10:33Speaker 4: was really inspiring. It was like, wow, you know, there
- 10:37Speaker 4: are people in this world who will risk it all
- 10:41Speaker 4: for their brother, you know that for their sister. And
- 10:47Speaker 4: it was just inspiring to me. And every day was
- 10:49Speaker 4: so fulfilling because even on our hard days are long days,
- 10:54Speaker 4: you knew that you were paying, you know, tribute to
- 10:59Speaker 4: this legacy of these men and women, and it was
- 11:02Speaker 4: just it was really inspiring. It made you look at
- 11:05Speaker 4: yourself kind of in the mirror like okay, what am
- 11:08Speaker 4: I doing, you know with my thirty nine years.
- 11:13Speaker 3: You know it's really when I look at you, I'm
- 11:15Speaker 3: speaking to HIMSS Crystal Robinson Robertson, excuse me, she's.
- 11:18Speaker 1: A member of the DJA.
- 11:19Speaker 3: The reason I say that because they have rules. When
- 11:22Speaker 3: you're in DJA, you're going to work so many hours.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Like I'll remember when I got my first writer's job,
- 11:26Speaker 3: when he said, why are people going on strike? Because
- 11:28Speaker 3: they got to fix rules that people will abuse you.
- 11:31Speaker 3: I remember I was writing on Me and the Boys
- 11:33Speaker 3: on ABC. It was I think it was ninety three,
- 11:36Speaker 3: and I was my executive producer kept me in the
- 11:40Speaker 3: writer's room and everybody else till sun up. I mean,
- 11:43Speaker 3: we came to work when it was light, it got dark,
- 11:47Speaker 3: and we were still in the writer's room when it
- 11:49Speaker 3: got light again. And that is why you have to strike.
- 11:52Speaker 3: That's why you have to have rules. That's why you
- 11:54Speaker 3: have to have these deals because people will abuse you. Yes,
- 11:57Speaker 3: you are well paid, but you don't have to be
- 11:59Speaker 3: abused because that's what you're fried mentally. And so that's
- 12:02Speaker 3: why she said, Look, when you stop working, you have
- 12:04Speaker 3: to come back at a certain hour. Otherwise their people
- 12:07Speaker 3: out there will work you sixteen eighteen hours.
- 12:10Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, they will keep working. If there are no
- 12:14Speaker 4: rules to keep you from working all day, they will
- 12:16Speaker 4: work you day and night into the next day. Like
- 12:19Speaker 4: you said, you see the sun twice, you know, see
- 12:22Speaker 4: the sun rise twice.
- 12:24Speaker 1: And that's not fair. That's not fair.
- 12:26Speaker 3: And I just want to say when I you know,
- 12:28Speaker 3: it's really interesting because when I do research on everybody,
- 12:31Speaker 3: when I come on the show, and then you know,
- 12:33Speaker 3: they send these little blurbs about you, and they send
- 12:35Speaker 3: a bio or and you start googling your name. You going, Okay,
- 12:40Speaker 3: her name keeps popping up over here, popping up over here,
- 12:43Speaker 3: and when and I just won't put everybody in perspective
- 12:46Speaker 3: with your talent, your actual talent.
- 12:48Speaker 1: You know, she directed Greenleaf.
- 12:51Speaker 3: That's gospel church, okay, in all American you know, that's
- 12:56Speaker 3: sports football. Okay, we'll go, and then we go American Soul.
- 13:01Speaker 3: That's soul trained that music right there, Okay, Okay, she's done.
- 13:08Speaker 1: And then b M F.
- 13:10Speaker 3: Black Matfield that's drugs. That's violence. That's scary people, scary people.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Okay?
- 13:16Speaker 3: And this did he slide right over there to Diary
- 13:19Speaker 3: of a Future President Disney? Plus, how do you keep
- 13:27Speaker 3: all these hats on your head?
- 13:31Speaker 4: Well, you know, like at the end of this no,
- 13:33Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Miss Robertson, No, I don't know.
- 13:35Speaker 4: Don't you put them?
- 13:35Speaker 1: Don't you do that where you know Rashon.
- 13:40Speaker 4: Well, Rashan, They're all stories, right, And so I love
- 13:45Speaker 4: great stories. And at the end of the day, I
- 13:48Speaker 4: just tell myself, I know how to tell this story.
- 13:51Speaker 4: You know, you you just you read the story. You're like,
- 13:53Speaker 4: I understand this and you and I find the part
- 13:56Speaker 4: of it that speaks to me, or the part of
- 14:00Speaker 4: it that I've experienced before, or you know, the part
- 14:04Speaker 4: that's closest to my heart, and I'm like, you know what,
- 14:07Speaker 4: I know how to tell this story. I know I
- 14:09Speaker 4: know exactly what to do. And at the end of
- 14:11Speaker 4: the day, that's really all you're doing. You're telling a story,
- 14:14Speaker 4: and you're making sure that the audience is going to
- 14:17Speaker 4: enjoy it the way that you enjoyed it. And so
- 14:21Speaker 4: I'm sitting in for y'all. I'm always sitting in for
- 14:24Speaker 4: the audience. When I'm directing back to who I'm thinking about.
- 14:27Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the people at home, you know, watching
- 14:31Speaker 4: and how they're gonna feel. So if I can always
- 14:34Speaker 4: just put myself in that place and understand what the
- 14:38Speaker 4: story is, I can tell any story I'm not intimidated
- 14:42Speaker 4: by any time period or however big explosions or any
- 14:48Speaker 4: car chases or whatever, because at the end of the day,
- 14:51Speaker 4: you're telling a story and you're doing it one shot out.
- 14:55Speaker 3: The guilded age, the guilded age time Carrio.
- 15:00Speaker 1: You know you you.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I love talking to individuals like you because you know
- 15:08Speaker 3: you're hard workers, and so sometimes you forget how talented
- 15:13Speaker 3: you are. And and and that's what because there are
- 15:18Speaker 3: certain people like you know, Michael Bay he just blows
- 15:20Speaker 3: stuff up. That's just he's super rich, blowing stuff up. Okay,
- 15:25Speaker 3: same thing with James Cameron, shot high tech, blowing stuff up.
- 15:29Speaker 3: You know, every time you do a movie goes over
- 15:31Speaker 3: a billion dollars in box office. But that's what he does.
- 15:35Speaker 3: That's a specialty he does. I'm telling everybody, look at
- 15:38Speaker 3: what I'm saying here, Look at the range. And when
- 15:40Speaker 3: we come back, she hasn't even another project that has dropped.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Look at we're gonna announce it on my show when.
- 15:48Speaker 4: We come back.
- 15:50Speaker 1: She is another show.
- 15:52Speaker 3: And the person that she's doing business with has money
- 15:55Speaker 3: in his name.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Money in the night.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Right back with more make it conversation about the class
- 16:02Speaker 3: with the humble, humble but great.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Christ Robuston, Please.
- 16:06Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more Money
- 16:09Speaker 5: Making Conversations Masterclass.
- 16:12Speaker 6: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute
- 16:16Speaker 6: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald.
- 16:18Speaker 3: Kirk Franklin is a sixteen time Grammy winning artist, songwriter, producer,
- 16:23Speaker 3: concert promoter, and recently he was inducted into the Hall
- 16:26Speaker 3: of Fame by Stevie Wanner's powerhouse radio station KJLH one
- 16:30Speaker 3: on two point three FM. Kirk has never been one
- 16:33Speaker 3: to stand still. We talked about his new podcast and
- 16:36Speaker 3: why it is important to diversify.
- 16:38Speaker 7: I'm honored at whatever capacity to be able to do
- 16:42Speaker 7: life with people, to be able to be part of
- 16:44Speaker 7: people's journey for God to loan me words and music
- 16:48Speaker 7: or whatever that I can borrow from Him, to just
- 16:50Speaker 7: be a catalyst. That's something that I take a great
- 16:54Speaker 7: level of humility and responsibility in And it was never
- 16:57Speaker 7: my intent to try to do something that would be
- 17:00Speaker 7: left of center.
- 17:01Speaker 8: That was that was never.
- 17:03Speaker 3: If you want to hear this full interview with Kur Franklin,
- 17:05Speaker 3: visit Money Making Conversation dot com.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Keep going in.
- 17:11Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by
- 17:15Speaker 5: Rishan McDonald.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Bring individuals who are just super talented, who rarely do
- 17:20Speaker 3: interviews like this because they's just so busy, they're always working.
- 17:23Speaker 3: And she's one of them, Miss Robinson is one of them,
- 17:25Speaker 3: one of the brilliant directors. And I feel so fortunate
- 17:28Speaker 3: to have her on Money Making Conversations Masterclass because she's
- 17:30Speaker 3: she's in between big projects and if you have an
- 17:34Speaker 3: opportunity you want to talk, you have these aspirations to act,
- 17:36Speaker 3: because when you direct, you deal with actors, When you
- 17:39Speaker 3: deal with producers, you.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Deal with writers.
- 17:41Speaker 3: Plus, she's a writer, and she has always been a
- 17:43Speaker 3: dream of hers to do these things, and she's now
- 17:46Speaker 3: living her dream. As we return back to this conversation
- 17:49Speaker 3: with you, Miss Robinson, what is the new project that
- 17:54Speaker 3: you have that just dropped and it evolved man taking
- 18:01Speaker 3: over everything, not dollar, not five dollars.
- 18:07Speaker 4: Yes, I'm so excited. It's a new animation series called
- 18:12Speaker 4: Lady Danger, and Lady Danger is an animation and uh,
- 18:18Speaker 4: the lead is going to be Nicki minage. I'm really
- 18:22Speaker 4: excited because we you know, we all know Nicky's voice.
- 18:27Speaker 4: She can do all sorts of crazy things with her voice,
- 18:30Speaker 4: and she has a very animated way of expressing herself,
- 18:34Speaker 4: so I think that the animation is just going to
- 18:37Speaker 4: be perfect for her as the lead. And you know,
- 18:40Speaker 4: fifty Cent has a really like his his eye, his
- 18:44Speaker 4: finger is on the pulse, you know, and his eye
- 18:46Speaker 4: is on the streets and in the culture, and he
- 18:49Speaker 4: knows exactly what people want. He knows what audiences want,
- 18:54Speaker 4: and he's had a lot of I think that's why
- 18:56Speaker 4: he's had so much success with his show. So really
- 19:00Speaker 4: excited to be working with fifty and g Unit on it.
- 19:03Speaker 4: And I'm excited to explore the future. You know, we're
- 19:07Speaker 4: exploring year twenty seventy five and so we get to
- 19:12Speaker 4: sort of go into the future and we're being really
- 19:15Speaker 4: you know, everything coming out now with artificial intelligence and everything.
- 19:19Speaker 4: I think everyone's eye is on the future and what
- 19:22Speaker 4: it's going to look like, especially for black people. So
- 19:26Speaker 4: I'm super excited about this new project. I'm one of
- 19:29Speaker 4: the creators of the show, one of the executive producers,
- 19:33Speaker 4: so I'll be writing the show as well as producing
- 19:38Speaker 4: the show. So I'm excited about that.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Super excited. This is mss Roperson again. You know, animation animation.
- 19:47Speaker 3: Didn't blink. Didn't blink? Now, what preps you? This is
- 19:51Speaker 3: all This is a question that I always ask people.
- 19:53Speaker 3: What preps you to be able to do a show?
- 19:55Speaker 3: An animated show? What is the difference between an animated
- 19:58Speaker 3: show and a live action?
- 20:01Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's interesting, there's there's there's not a
- 20:04Speaker 4: lot of different in terms of writing. There's not a
- 20:08Speaker 4: huge difference in it, except you got to know, like
- 20:12Speaker 4: when people are watching animation, it's it's a bit of
- 20:15Speaker 4: a heightened experience when you're dealing with an animation about
- 20:20Speaker 4: a superhuman And so we just want to make sure
- 20:23Speaker 4: the writing is really punchy and and really interesting, Like
- 20:27Speaker 4: every every other line needs to be really kind of
- 20:30Speaker 4: like ear catching or eye catching in some sort of way.
- 20:35Speaker 4: So we want to make sure it's always fun and upbeat.
- 20:38Speaker 4: But besides that, you know, like I said before, you know,
- 20:42Speaker 4: a story is a story, and as long as you
- 20:44Speaker 4: know how to tell that story and you can feel
- 20:47Speaker 4: those different characters, then you know you're good. You can,
- 20:51Speaker 4: you can, it'll translate to animation, it'll translate to live action,
- 20:56Speaker 4: right or whatever you want it to be.
- 20:59Speaker 3: Yeah, we know because I have pitched animated projects, and
- 21:04Speaker 3: it's almost like you have to do extreme writing. You know,
- 21:06Speaker 3: you can't talk just you know, because I guess what,
- 21:09Speaker 3: somebody who's walking next year. In animation, you become a tomato,
- 21:13Speaker 3: and can become a chicken, can become a human, and
- 21:16Speaker 3: you have to understand you have that creative freedom to
- 21:20Speaker 3: make that happen in animation, whereas when you have a
- 21:23Speaker 3: person who's structured like I am, coming from a world sitcom.
- 21:27Speaker 1: It was a major leap for me to understand.
- 21:30Speaker 3: It's fine, you can do that and guess what because
- 21:31Speaker 3: you're dealing with animation, and because animation extremes allow you
- 21:36Speaker 3: to tell a story sometimes a lot better than live action, correct,
- 21:40Speaker 3: I believe.
- 21:41Speaker 4: So I've always it's been a lifelong dream of mine
- 21:44Speaker 4: to work in animation. So this project has been like
- 21:48Speaker 4: a dream come true for sure. And a lot of
- 21:51Speaker 4: times pitching animation, the studios want to know, like, well,
- 21:54Speaker 4: why is it animation? So a lot of times, like
- 21:58Speaker 4: like you said, like somebody turning in to a tomato
- 22:01Speaker 4: or having like an animal side kid that talks, or
- 22:05Speaker 4: doing things that you would not be able to really
- 22:08Speaker 4: do in live action. They want to know like why
- 22:12Speaker 4: is this animation, Why can't this be just a regular show.
- 22:17Speaker 4: So all those elements are important when you're writing it
- 22:21Speaker 4: to know like, this is why this has to be animation,
- 22:24Speaker 4: because you know we have the pillows talk to you,
- 22:27Speaker 4: seeing you to sleep, or you know, whatever whatever you
- 22:31Speaker 4: want to put in there.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Right, You know, it was really interesting because when you
- 22:34Speaker 3: start talking, the only thing the project that really comes
- 22:36Speaker 3: across is live action that kind of feels like animation.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Is the you know, Guardians of the Galaxy.
- 22:42Speaker 3: You know, they have the treat you know, the little
- 22:45Speaker 3: raccoon that talks the treaty.
- 22:48Speaker 1: With walks around and participates physically.
- 22:50Speaker 3: It's almost like an animated project, but they're treating it
- 22:53Speaker 3: like it's live because it's live action. And but really
- 22:56Speaker 3: that's not reality. And when I look over the years,
- 22:59Speaker 3: you know, when Star Wars started going to these different
- 23:02Speaker 3: planets in the different world and bringing in these odd
- 23:05Speaker 3: looking characters, that wasn't the sense was animation because they
- 23:08Speaker 3: was stepping into a culture that wasn't real. But guess what,
- 23:11Speaker 3: it is the world that I'm creating so I can
- 23:13Speaker 3: get away with it. And that's what animation allows us
- 23:16Speaker 3: to do. And so when you look at these different
- 23:18Speaker 3: projects when they and you absolutely correct. That was one
- 23:21Speaker 3: of the major questions they asked me, and I guess
- 23:24Speaker 3: that's why I don't have an animated project on TV.
- 23:26Speaker 3: They said, Rashaan, why is it necessary to do this
- 23:30Speaker 3: project and animation?
- 23:31Speaker 1: I went because I like it. I think it'll work.
- 23:36Speaker 1: And they said, we'll get back with you. Willgi back
- 23:38Speaker 1: with you, because.
- 23:39Speaker 3: You really have to say, this project of this storytelling
- 23:42Speaker 3: can only be achieved by doing it this way, and
- 23:44Speaker 3: that's what you're achieved.
- 23:46Speaker 6: Now.
- 23:46Speaker 1: How did you get Nicki Minauche involved in.
- 23:48Speaker 4: This, Well, that was all fifty cent. You know, he
- 23:52Speaker 4: has that relationship, that friendship with Nikki, and he thought,
- 23:57Speaker 4: you know, he came to the table thinking like we
- 24:00Speaker 4: had to pitch pitch it to him, and then when
- 24:03Speaker 4: he got on board with it, he was like, you know,
- 24:06Speaker 4: I think Nicki Minaj would be perfect for the lead
- 24:09Speaker 4: for Lady Danger. And then we had a meeting with
- 24:12Speaker 4: Nicki and we had to pitch it to her as
- 24:16Speaker 4: well as she had thought, and then she she was interested, thankfully,
- 24:23Speaker 4: and so and she's also you know, she's interested in
- 24:27Speaker 4: the fact that, like, you know, the studio time in
- 24:31Speaker 4: order for her to do to do the Lady Danger voicing.
- 24:36Speaker 4: You know, she can do that from home, from a
- 24:39Speaker 4: home studio, and with her being a mother and having
- 24:43Speaker 4: her own label and doing all the amazing boss things
- 24:46Speaker 4: she's doing. And I think it's also appealing to her
- 24:49Speaker 4: because it's something that she can do, you know, from
- 24:54Speaker 4: the studio in her home and she doesn't have to
- 24:58Speaker 4: you know, go through hair and make upbe and traveling.
- 25:02Speaker 3: You know, they will be there with that camera because
- 25:04Speaker 3: you got to get the b road side of it,
- 25:07Speaker 3: of them actually doing it, so you can't get too
- 25:10Speaker 3: too regular.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. But for the most part, you know,
- 25:14Speaker 4: she's able to like be there with her son and
- 25:18Speaker 4: all of that. So I think that was also.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Oh absolutely absolutely. You know, let's let just talk about
- 25:22Speaker 3: fifty Cents. You know this, I got to use the
- 25:25Speaker 3: word brilliant. You know, I've been knowing him, I've been
- 25:29Speaker 3: knowing of of knowing, and met fifty Cents way back
- 25:32Speaker 3: and when I was doing the Beat in LA with
- 25:35Speaker 3: Steve Harvey and that's when I first met fifty Cents. Uh,
- 25:39Speaker 3: you know, the birthday and all that something, all those
- 25:42Speaker 3: all those those hits he had back then when Power
- 25:45Speaker 3: came out.
- 25:46Speaker 1: That's Power is.
- 25:46Speaker 3: A series that launched his production and television brand. And
- 25:51Speaker 3: I remember when that show was announced, it was said
- 25:53Speaker 3: it was a it was a show about a drug
- 25:56Speaker 3: dealer who ran a nightclub, and it's being produced by
- 26:00Speaker 3: fifty cents. And I immediately turned to my friends, go,
- 26:03Speaker 3: that'll never make it because I just didn't see it.
- 26:07Speaker 3: I just didn't see it. I didn't I didn't think
- 26:09Speaker 3: the American culture was ready for that. I didn't think
- 26:13Speaker 3: that America would would would would buy into that.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Boy was I wrong?
- 26:18Speaker 3: And boy did I not miss an episode. I watched
- 26:21Speaker 3: every episode because what I what he showed me was
- 26:26Speaker 3: if you look at every one of his series, it's
- 26:28Speaker 3: just like the Fast and Furious series, it's about family.
- 26:32Speaker 3: All his series are successful because it's about family. It's
- 26:35Speaker 3: just family, and it's just a different way of parenting
- 26:38Speaker 3: because all if you look at the core Power, it
- 26:42Speaker 3: was about a mother, a husband and wife trying to
- 26:46Speaker 3: raise their kids as safely as possible, and a drug
- 26:50Speaker 3: community that they built.
- 26:52Speaker 4: Mm hmm, that's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, And I
- 26:57Speaker 4: mean I think that like that's what makes make shit
- 27:00Speaker 4: so relatable. And I think that's why audiences love it
- 27:04Speaker 4: because you know, it's an escape first of all, and
- 27:08Speaker 4: it's really grounded, and then you can relate to it
- 27:11Speaker 4: because it's still, at the end of the day, a
- 27:13Speaker 4: story about family.
- 27:15Speaker 1: It really is.
- 27:16Speaker 3: Andin' I'm gonna tell you something, I have to take
- 27:17Speaker 3: my head off to you because you're helping these stories
- 27:19Speaker 3: being told. Because as a person who's been in this
- 27:22Speaker 3: industry a long time and watching black portrayal, black creative,
- 27:26Speaker 3: black content, and you know, we had no dramas. I mean,
- 27:31Speaker 3: we couldn't keep a drama on the air back in
- 27:33Speaker 3: the day. You know it, come on, I mean Tim
- 27:36Speaker 3: Reid his drama came on and they counsel it. Oh
- 27:39Speaker 3: my god, can we keep a counsel And they kept
- 27:41Speaker 3: saying black people are television in the world or the
- 27:43Speaker 3: television community audience will not see it and watch black drama.
- 27:48Speaker 3: And so to see what is happening now and watching
- 27:52Speaker 3: him lead the way and watching so many more talented people,
- 27:57Speaker 3: it's merely amazing to me because of the fact that
- 27:59Speaker 3: you at the center of that and a clear understanding
- 28:03Speaker 3: that your talents are mushrooming this new content era for
- 28:09Speaker 3: black black producers and writers and directors. How do you
- 28:12Speaker 3: feel about that?
- 28:14Speaker 5: Man?
- 28:14Speaker 4: That makes me feel amazing? You know, I mean, I'm
- 28:17Speaker 4: a I'm a little girl from making Georgia. You know,
- 28:20Speaker 4: I started out, I didn't know anybody in this industry,
- 28:25Speaker 4: coming up like from where I was from, and it
- 28:28Speaker 4: just it just makes me feel amazing that now you know,
- 28:31Speaker 4: I'm one of those people who can inspire somebody else,
- 28:36Speaker 4: you know, and that that means the world of me.
- 28:38Speaker 4: It really does mean everything. And and it's always really
- 28:42Speaker 4: heartwarming when a younger, you know, black woman comes up
- 28:48Speaker 4: to me and says, you know, I see you, and
- 28:50Speaker 4: I see myself in you, and I can as you're directing,
- 28:54Speaker 4: I can see myself directing. And that's what it's about
- 28:57Speaker 4: to me, the fact that you know, you can look
- 29:00Speaker 4: at me and see yourself and you know, and and
- 29:04Speaker 4: that that's what that's what makes the difference. Like when
- 29:07Speaker 4: you can see yourself doing something that you couldn't see
- 29:10Speaker 4: yourself doing before. That's a breakthrough just in just in that,
- 29:15Speaker 4: you know, just in that realization that's sometimes that's life changing.
- 29:19Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, you know, you know, I want to if
- 29:22Speaker 3: I want to ask you one more question now, if
- 29:24Speaker 3: you if you can stick around for one more break,
- 29:27Speaker 3: because I want to talk about the rise of the
- 29:29Speaker 3: female Black female directors and you're part of that because
- 29:33Speaker 3: you know it's it's really brilliant what we're seeing out there,
- 29:36Speaker 3: and it really exploded during the COVID, really exploded the opportunities.
- 29:40Speaker 1: And I want you to mention some of.
- 29:41Speaker 3: The name if you don't mind, and how how this
- 29:44Speaker 3: whole chemistry is starting to just not long do you
- 29:47Speaker 3: take over this, but dominate the industry and from producing
- 29:50Speaker 3: and EP and and all that stuff, and it's it's great,
- 29:53Speaker 3: and just stick around. We've got one more break. I
- 29:56Speaker 3: held her. She already told me she don't have a
- 29:58Speaker 3: job right now, so I can keep her. She told
- 30:01Speaker 3: me she hasn't run in those sets. See our jobs
- 30:03Speaker 3: coming now, but right now Rashaw McDonald, guy, Miss christ
- 30:06Speaker 3: Ropers from Lockdown, don't got where. We're back for more
- 30:09Speaker 3: money making conversation Mastering Class. One more big question, and
- 30:12Speaker 3: she's going to respond, don't go nowhere.
- 30:14Speaker 5: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
- 30:17Speaker 5: money making conversations. Masterclass.
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- 31:28Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by
- 31:32Speaker 5: Rashaan McDonald.
- 31:33Speaker 3: I've kept her one more break, MS Rowerson. You know,
- 31:38Speaker 3: let's let's let's rehash some of her greatness, you know,
- 31:40Speaker 3: because she's wants to sit around and be humble. Directed
- 31:43Speaker 3: episodes of green Leaf. I'm just mentioning some of the
- 31:44Speaker 3: things that, you know, if I could still be talking Greenleaf,
- 31:47Speaker 3: which is on Own Network, All America, which is on CW,
- 31:50Speaker 3: dire Future, President, Disney Plus American Soul, bet Long Slow,
- 31:55Speaker 3: EXL Paramount, Black Mafia Family which is BMF Star, The
- 32:00Speaker 3: Gilded Age, HBO, you know, Genius, which is now GEO,
- 32:05Speaker 3: and now she's doing animation. Yeah, and she sits on
- 32:10Speaker 3: this call y'all. Well, you know, Rashine, it's about relationships.
- 32:14Speaker 3: You know, I call here, call there and people remember me,
- 32:19Speaker 3: and uh, you know, it's really about that relationship. For
- 32:21Speaker 3: sh It's really really what it amounts to my situation,
- 32:25Speaker 3: my situation, you know, but people know I like, let
- 32:29Speaker 3: me just tell you something. When you're talking to somebody
- 32:30Speaker 3: humble like this Roberson, she said, you know, I really
- 32:34Speaker 3: went over to do Genius.
- 32:35Speaker 1: I just really wanted to do one episode. Then he
- 32:37Speaker 1: told me.
- 32:38Speaker 3: Four, and then he told me four because I was
- 32:41Speaker 3: a producing director.
- 32:43Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I remember everything.
- 32:47Speaker 1: People say to me.
- 32:48Speaker 3: They said, ra Sean, you remember everything because I like
- 32:50Speaker 3: to remind people in the world we live in. I've
- 32:54Speaker 3: been in Hollywood as a writer since ninety two. The
- 32:58Speaker 3: Roberson's of the world did not exist, not like they're
- 33:03Speaker 3: but existing, and now they existing now today as producers,
- 33:07Speaker 3: as contributors, as independent thought bringers that are not pigeonhole
- 33:12Speaker 3: and duct tape to say this is what you're supposed
- 33:14Speaker 3: to do. Her resume of work is tremendous. But she's
- 33:19Speaker 3: not alone. Talk to us about why is there a
- 33:22Speaker 3: tremendous rise in African American female directors and what impact
- 33:28Speaker 3: are you guys making on the industry.
- 33:31Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, listen, I'm so fortunate to be
- 33:35Speaker 4: able to come up in this like new renaissance of
- 33:39Speaker 4: black women directors. And one person that I gotta gotta
- 33:43Speaker 4: give a lot of credit to is Ava DuVernay.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Like Ava Amen, Oh.
- 33:49Speaker 4: My goodness, Ava single handedly made a big, big difference
- 33:54Speaker 4: in uh for for female black women directors. She just
- 34:00Speaker 4: women directors in general. When she started doing Queen Sugar
- 34:04Speaker 4: on own and she only hired women directors for the show.
- 34:10Speaker 4: That made a big difference because suddenly, because that got
- 34:13Speaker 4: the attention of a lot of other shows that got
- 34:17Speaker 4: the attention of studios and networks, and suddenly people you know,
- 34:23Speaker 4: were looking out for women directors. And then things started
- 34:28Speaker 4: to change in Hollywood where you know, people started to notice, well,
- 34:32Speaker 4: out of the last one hundred directors that you've hired,
- 34:36Speaker 4: only two of them have been black women, and why
- 34:39Speaker 4: is that? And then people began to be to question
- 34:42Speaker 4: it and bring it out into the air and expose it.
- 34:46Speaker 4: And so I think that you know, that happening allowed
- 34:51Speaker 4: people like me and a lot of my sisters now directing.
- 34:56Speaker 4: It allowed us all to be seen finally and to
- 34:59Speaker 4: come through through and then they gave us a shot
- 35:02Speaker 4: and it was like, oh, these women know what they're doing.
- 35:05Speaker 4: They're doing great. And so I think people like Ava,
- 35:09Speaker 4: people like Easter Ray, you know, those really amazing powerful
- 35:15Speaker 4: black women who went to the forefront and really showed
- 35:18Speaker 4: people like, Hey, we know what we're doing and we
- 35:21Speaker 4: do a great job, and we're also going to reach
- 35:24Speaker 4: back and bring our other sisters up here to do
- 35:28Speaker 4: it too. That was a really major turning point in
- 35:33Speaker 4: the industry. I think that happened about about six years ago.
- 35:39Speaker 3: Absolutely, it was I know that because of the fact
- 35:44Speaker 3: that you know, at one point blacks only participating.
- 35:48Speaker 1: Really, I'm just being honest when I talk.
- 35:49Speaker 3: On these shows because you're in the industry reality shows,
- 35:52Speaker 3: Oh we were were We were killing it in reality shows,
- 35:55Speaker 3: fighting and throwing glasses and jumping over the table and diving.
- 35:58Speaker 3: That's where they was betraying Black women on TV. Y'all
- 36:01Speaker 3: were killing it in reality Okay, there was no there
- 36:04Speaker 3: was no culture tied to black women. It's all about screaming, fussing,
- 36:09Speaker 3: fighting over man and throwing glasses and climbing over the
- 36:12Speaker 3: tables and beating each other up. That was the portrayal
- 36:14Speaker 3: of black women in the media, especially on television, in
- 36:18Speaker 3: the reality world. And then behind the camera, you guys
- 36:22Speaker 3: started changing the narrative and it took a powerful courageous
- 36:26Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you the word courageous because I'm gona
- 36:28Speaker 3: tell you something. What Ava Dubne did. It was a
- 36:31Speaker 3: lot of people questioning her, and I mean, I've been there.
- 36:34Speaker 3: I have been there. When you start making decisions and
- 36:38Speaker 3: you know people are questioning it and you it'll creep
- 36:43Speaker 3: into your life. You have to got have strong faith,
- 36:46Speaker 3: You got to have strong relationships, and you have to
- 36:48Speaker 3: be more importantly confident that you're making the right decision
- 36:51Speaker 3: and you've chosen the right person to lead you out
- 36:54Speaker 3: of that darkness into the light. Because that's all she
- 36:57Speaker 3: was doing. And I you know, and it show the
- 37:00Speaker 3: level of work that she does. But she she knows,
- 37:03Speaker 3: she you know, it's like it's like, you know, Michael
- 37:05Speaker 3: Jordan know he gives you know, he got six championships
- 37:08Speaker 3: to do that, but you know, he also knew he
- 37:10Speaker 3: had to pass the ball off to Pippin. You know,
- 37:12Speaker 3: Steve Kerr, you know he had to pass the ball
- 37:14Speaker 3: cart right, he had passed the ball off to people
- 37:17Speaker 3: and otherwise you can't win. So what Ava du Vine
- 37:20Speaker 3: is doing in this industry or have done in this industry,
- 37:23Speaker 3: she's passed the ball off. And yes, y'all made the.
- 37:26Speaker 4: Shots, Yes exactly. That's what you gotta do. You gotta
- 37:31Speaker 4: make it. You know, you gotta make the shot. If
- 37:34Speaker 4: they pass your ball, you gotta make the shot. That's
- 37:37Speaker 4: your one shot.
- 37:40Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, you know the great thing
- 37:42Speaker 3: about my show is that that I love and I'm
- 37:45Speaker 3: to appreciate it. I'm allowed to do it every week
- 37:47Speaker 3: and bring people like you on my show because the
- 37:50Speaker 3: word master class is attached to it. And when I
- 37:53Speaker 3: say master class, you are you epitomizes that term because
- 37:57Speaker 3: of the fact that you know, corn, you're somebody, you
- 38:00Speaker 3: were born in Germany, you know, raised in making. Because
- 38:03Speaker 3: if anybody can't hear that Southern accent, because she she's
- 38:07Speaker 3: not losing that that that country girl.
- 38:09Speaker 4: Is tied up.
- 38:10Speaker 1: It's tied up all up in you.
- 38:12Speaker 3: And and and then but the enthusiasm of the fact
- 38:15Speaker 3: that I just you know, I said one more question,
- 38:17Speaker 3: but I got to ask you this next question.
- 38:21Speaker 1: There are always.
- 38:22Speaker 3: Doubters in individual paths to success. How did you move
- 38:28Speaker 3: past those people? You know, when they used the word
- 38:31Speaker 3: luck or they use the word right place at the
- 38:34Speaker 3: right time, or girl, don't get too excited about that.
- 38:38Speaker 1: How did you get past that?
- 38:42Speaker 4: My father told me once, he said, he said, people
- 38:46Speaker 4: are gonna doubt you, and he said, you're gonna doubt yourself,
- 38:50Speaker 4: but as long as you don't listen to it and
- 38:54Speaker 4: move on, you'll be fine. And in those moments, I
- 38:58Speaker 4: remember what my father said, and I had doubts myself
- 39:03Speaker 4: and other people had doubts. I had somebody tell me
- 39:06Speaker 4: in college, you know, you need to be realistic. When
- 39:09Speaker 4: I said, I want to be a film you need
- 39:11Speaker 4: to be realistic, and I was like, I am being realistic,
- 39:14Speaker 4: you know, And but you just can't listen to it.
- 39:17Speaker 4: You have to you have to know that the doubt
- 39:20Speaker 4: is gonna happen, because you don't need to be thrown
- 39:25Speaker 4: off by it. Okay, it's gonna happen. You're signing up
- 39:28Speaker 4: to do one of the hardest things in the world,
- 39:31Speaker 4: like you're as a as a as a black woman director.
- 39:35Speaker 4: I know I signed up to do something that one
- 39:38Speaker 4: percent of the whole world could could only do. So
- 39:43Speaker 4: I know that it's gonna be hard. I know people
- 39:45Speaker 4: are gonna doubt. I know that's gonna happen, and I
- 39:48Speaker 4: just say, Okay, that happens. It's like feeling to burn
- 39:51Speaker 4: when you're working out. Some it starts to burn. But
- 39:54Speaker 4: you know that's gonna happen. You want it, you know,
- 39:56Speaker 4: it's like that's a part of the whole process. But
- 39:58Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta do it anyway. You just got
- 40:01Speaker 4: to do it anyway. And you know you got to
- 40:04Speaker 4: sign up. You signed up for something hard to do,
- 40:08Speaker 4: and you just got to make it happen. Wow, you know,
- 40:11Speaker 4: And that's what that's what makes it. It's not easy.
- 40:15Speaker 4: You know, if it were easy, everybody would be doing
- 40:17Speaker 4: it right.
- 40:18Speaker 3: If you listen to that person said be realistic. Be realistic. Yeah,
- 40:22Speaker 3: get married, get a job, and just stand in line.
- 40:26Speaker 3: That's where you're supposed to be, just standing in line.
- 40:28Speaker 3: Let your dreams just become nightmares, because that's what will
- 40:32Speaker 3: become if you don't live your dreams.
- 40:33Speaker 1: But I wanted to thank you for coming on my show.
- 40:35Speaker 10: You.
- 40:35Speaker 1: I know it's been a lot.
- 40:36Speaker 3: It's been a journey to get you on this show,
- 40:38Speaker 3: and it's been a blessing to hear your conversation.
- 40:40Speaker 1: How can we get in touch with you via social
- 40:42Speaker 1: Do you have a website?
- 40:43Speaker 4: Can you tell them an audience, Yes, I am cc
- 40:47Speaker 4: Roberson that stands for Crystal Clear Roberson and on Instagram,
- 40:52Speaker 4: i am c. C. Roberson Creates and then my website
- 40:58Speaker 4: is cc Roberson. And be looking out because I'm about
- 41:03Speaker 4: to start c see our story House, which is going
- 41:06Speaker 4: to be a really great resource for up and coming filmmakers.
- 41:11Speaker 4: I'm going to start giving grants for short films and
- 41:15Speaker 4: a lot of really great creative advice. So just stick
- 41:19Speaker 4: with me and stay tuned in and you'll start seeing.
- 41:21Speaker 3: That when you start. Now that's a program you're about
- 41:24Speaker 3: to start or has it started? I'm about Okay, cool,
- 41:28Speaker 3: come back on the show so we can let my
- 41:30Speaker 3: people know. Okay, come on, Georgie girl, come on back
- 41:33Speaker 3: down here and talk to us. Okay, right, come on,
- 41:35Speaker 3: talk to us again. Thank you for taking the time
- 41:37Speaker 3: to come on my show. An extended interview with the
- 41:40Speaker 3: running on it, Miss Crystal Robinson.
- 41:43Speaker 4: Thank you, Rashan.
- 41:44Speaker 3: You're amazing, and continue to be blessed and continue to
- 41:47Speaker 3: work hard and continue to uplift the community because every
- 41:50Speaker 3: time I'm telling some people need to understand how gifted
- 41:53Speaker 3: you are. And I'm marveled because I know the hard
- 41:57Speaker 3: work that it comes with a resume that you built
- 41:59Speaker 3: so far and you continue to build. And you can
- 42:01Speaker 3: throw out the word thirty nine because I'm telling you
- 42:03Speaker 3: something that's a forty nine, fifty nine year old resume
- 42:05Speaker 3: you're talking about right now.
- 42:08Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be safe out there.
- 42:09Speaker 7: Okay.
- 42:10Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Thank you. Wow, you know it was
- 42:15Speaker 1: I'm opening up the phone lines.
- 42:17Speaker 3: I know that interview went longer than normal, but I
- 42:19Speaker 3: want to talk to you guys, if you want to
- 42:21Speaker 3: talk to me.
- 42:22Speaker 1: You can ask me any question.
- 42:23Speaker 3: But more important, I want to share a couple of
- 42:25Speaker 3: thoughts before we go to break about you know what
- 42:29Speaker 3: she was talking about how people would throw that doubt
- 42:31Speaker 3: in you. Well, people will question your dreams with people
- 42:33Speaker 3: because that's a dream that they can't understand because that's
- 42:37Speaker 3: not their dream. My life is always been a life
- 42:42Speaker 3: where people have said what I should be doing and
- 42:45Speaker 3: what I could.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Not be doing.
- 42:48Speaker 3: And and I'm not saying that I went out there
- 42:51Speaker 3: to prove the wrong. I just lived my life. And
- 42:54Speaker 3: when I think about the different things and the different
- 42:57Speaker 3: famous people that I've been associated with all my life,
- 43:00Speaker 3: within my life even today, it's because they saw something
- 43:04Speaker 3: in me that I didn't see it myself, and they
- 43:07Speaker 3: saw a skill set. I was interviewing Brian Brian Custer.
- 43:13Speaker 3: He's an ESPN analyst and he does a college play
- 43:16Speaker 3: by play and uh and he was he did the
- 43:19Speaker 3: fight this weekend where Garcia guy hitting the ribs of
- 43:23Speaker 3: the liver and he just sat down in the corner
- 43:25Speaker 3: and he was and he said, man, you're a legend.
- 43:27Speaker 1: You're a legend. I said, what do you mean? He said,
- 43:29Speaker 1: you are a legend.
- 43:31Speaker 3: He said, people sleeping on you, brother, And I said, wow,
- 43:36Speaker 3: I said, thank you. That's all That's my wife has
- 43:38Speaker 3: told me, well, lushun, when people compliment you, please say
- 43:41Speaker 3: thank you, because sometimes I just get taken back because
- 43:44Speaker 3: I'm not expecting a compliment. All I'm doing is expecting
- 43:47Speaker 3: myself to understand that I'm just grinding. And sometimes you
- 43:51Speaker 3: grind you you just walk walk, just run right past
- 43:55Speaker 3: the accomplishment, Just run right past the what you have
- 43:59Speaker 3: achieved in you don't recognize what you have achieved is
- 44:02Speaker 3: very unique and very special. Because I was this past weekend,
- 44:06Speaker 3: I was honored at the Black Media Honors. It was
- 44:09Speaker 3: this event and I didn't know, you know, I walked
- 44:12Speaker 3: in there. You know, they walked in there. Mister McDonald
- 44:15Speaker 3: coming this way is the Black Media Honors, and uh
- 44:19Speaker 3: put me on the red carpete taking pictures. People want
- 44:22Speaker 3: to do selfies with me. I'm like being tossed around
- 44:24Speaker 3: like a little pinata dog, a little dog. And you know,
- 44:28Speaker 3: and I wasn't the only person being honored. April Love
- 44:30Speaker 3: was being honored, Steven A. Smith was being honored, Matthew
- 44:33Speaker 3: Knows was being honored. My boss Samuels from Revolt TV,
- 44:36Speaker 3: Alfred Edwinds Junior from Black Enterprise was being honored and
- 44:42Speaker 3: Rushaun McDonald was being honored and for some reason, I
- 44:46Speaker 3: didn't understand why they honored me. But we have one
- 44:49Speaker 3: more phone call coming back. When we come back, Rodrigus,
- 44:51Speaker 3: don't go anywhere. This is your show now. You called
- 44:54Speaker 3: talk to me, asked me the question. I will responding back.
- 44:57Speaker 3: More money Making Conversation Masterclass and tell you.
- 45:01Speaker 1: Can win, man, You can win.
- 45:04Speaker 3: Just believe in yourself and stick around people who believe
- 45:08Speaker 3: in your dreams.
- 45:09Speaker 1: Be right back.
- 45:10Speaker 5: Please, don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
- 45:13Speaker 5: Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
- 45:17Speaker 6: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute
- 45:21Speaker 6: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald.
- 45:23Speaker 3: Michelle Williams is a Grammy Award winning recording artists and actress.
- 45:27Speaker 3: She rose to stardom as a member of the Omega
- 45:29Speaker 3: group Destiny's Child. In her new book Checking In How
- 45:33Speaker 3: Getting Real about Depression save my life and can save yours,
- 45:37Speaker 3: this book will help you see the science to overcome depression, to.
- 45:40Speaker 11: Go into counseling. I really want to help people in
- 45:43Speaker 11: entertainment and sports because I don't feel like we have
- 45:47Speaker 11: to live these lives, whether dysfunction or not, identifying hurts
- 45:54Speaker 11: that trigger certain behaviors and responses because just because I
- 45:58Speaker 11: was hurt in my childlihood does not give me the
- 46:01Speaker 11: right to go hurting people as an adult. And then
- 46:04Speaker 11: I really feel like we can go on to be
- 46:06Speaker 11: more whole and have great quality relationships.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Michelle Williams full interview.
- 46:12Speaker 3: It's available at money Making conversation dot com.
- 46:15Speaker 5: Keep winning Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass
- 46:19Speaker 5: hosted by Rashaan McDonald.
- 46:21Speaker 1: There are no guarantees in life. People.
- 46:23Speaker 3: They can push you back down that mountain. There are
- 46:26Speaker 3: no guarantees in life. Ask Don Lemon, asked Tucker Calls.
- 46:31Speaker 3: You have to say at the top of the mountain,
- 46:33Speaker 3: and one day somebody decided to say, you know, some
- 46:35Speaker 3: of that mountain has a base, and we're gonna push
- 46:38Speaker 3: you back down that base. So while you're living this
- 46:40Speaker 3: dream of these doubts that your dreams cannot be achieved
- 46:43Speaker 3: because guess what somebody's told you you can't achieve it.
- 46:47Speaker 3: Try try and guess what I'm not. Don Lemon's not finished.
- 46:52Speaker 3: Tucker Calls is not finished. They just got knocked down
- 46:55Speaker 3: and they're gonna get back up because they're fighters. They're
- 46:58Speaker 3: twenty four to seven people. I'm a twenty four seven person.
- 47:02Speaker 3: I've been knocked down. I have been knocked down. I
- 47:04Speaker 3: have been I've had dirt kicked in my face. I've
- 47:07Speaker 3: had times when I looked in the mirror and go
- 47:09Speaker 3: is there a future? But that was only for a
- 47:12Speaker 3: little moment, because I would not let negativity win. We
- 47:16Speaker 3: have a caller here, Rodriguez in at LASTA. How you doing,
- 47:19Speaker 3: rod Vegas? What can I do for you?
- 47:20Speaker 1: My friend?
- 47:21Speaker 8: Hey, yes, sir, thank you for taking my call. I
- 47:23Speaker 8: just wanted to more amend you on your program and
- 47:28Speaker 8: say that you know the end of you someone like
- 47:29Speaker 8: Crystal Roversen, who is born in Germany and raised right
- 47:34Speaker 8: here in Georgia making they have that exposure for the
- 47:37Speaker 8: average person who may not ever have that kind of exposure,
- 47:41Speaker 8: and to realize the possibility, especially being so local, I
- 47:44Speaker 8: think it's an awesome thing. So I commend you. I
- 47:47Speaker 8: listened to you sure as often as I can. But anyway,
- 47:49Speaker 8: this is one that really caught my attention, as many
- 47:51Speaker 8: of them have.
- 47:53Speaker 12: But my question more pretends to the average person like
- 47:57Speaker 12: myself I'm a real estate investry and go on. One
- 48:01Speaker 12: of the things that we are in critical need of
- 48:04Speaker 12: is mentors. How do we align ourselves with people like
- 48:08Speaker 12: Crystal Robson who wants to give back in terms of
- 48:14Speaker 12: you know, those networks. I think that's one of the
- 48:16Speaker 12: biggest things that we're going to require to go to
- 48:19Speaker 12: the next level and be that explosive type of young
- 48:22Speaker 12: people even as we mature in our age. But that
- 48:27Speaker 12: mentorship is so critical because you know, it's one thing
- 48:30Speaker 12: to believe in yourself.
- 48:30Speaker 8: That then you've got to have that.
- 48:31Speaker 12: Right connection or right connections, if you will. So how
- 48:35Speaker 12: do we build those organizations so that we can really
- 48:38Speaker 12: start to expand?
- 48:39Speaker 3: Well, thank you for calling Roveguez. You know, here's the
- 48:42Speaker 3: interesting thing about that question that you're asking me, because
- 48:45Speaker 3: it's like relationships, like she said this, Roberson said, this
- 48:48Speaker 3: is my relationships, whether it's in church, whether it's fraternity, sorority,
- 48:53Speaker 3: or any membership that you need. But you have to
- 48:55Speaker 3: build it by relationships. You have to build it by
- 48:58Speaker 3: a group, like by the people. Some people start organization,
- 49:01Speaker 3: like they start these little financial clubs. It may be
- 49:03Speaker 3: two or three people. I would tell you this is
- 49:06Speaker 3: that there are people who think just like you. All
- 49:09Speaker 3: you need is another person. All you need is one
- 49:11Speaker 3: more person Rodrigis to think like you. Then that person
- 49:14Speaker 3: would get another person, and then you set a consistency
- 49:18Speaker 3: within that group saying we're gonna meet once a month.
- 49:21Speaker 3: Don't over don't overburden the relationship. So a lot of
- 49:25Speaker 3: people do things they want to meet every week, or
- 49:27Speaker 3: let's meet every Sunday. I remember our family did that
- 49:30Speaker 3: to me about we're gonna meet it every Sunday. You know, virtually, yes,
- 49:35Speaker 3: what we don't meet it all anymore because this war's
- 49:37Speaker 3: out now. Things just say it once a month. We
- 49:39Speaker 3: probably still meeting. But you have to put a schedule
- 49:41Speaker 3: together that everybody can meet and live with and adhere to.
- 49:46Speaker 3: So I would tell you that there's another person out there.
- 49:49Speaker 3: It's not so much you need mentorship. You just need
- 49:51Speaker 3: to talk to somebody who thinks like you, that's all.
- 49:55Speaker 3: And so a lot of people confuse the word mentorship
- 49:57Speaker 3: like they need to get advice from somebody who knows
- 50:00Speaker 3: more than them.
- 50:01Speaker 1: That's not true.
- 50:02Speaker 3: You need to talk to somebody who talks and thinks
- 50:05Speaker 3: like you, who has the same aspirations and the same dreams.
- 50:08Speaker 1: That's who you need to be talking to.
- 50:10Speaker 3: And there's another person out there just like you are
- 50:13Speaker 3: thinks like you. You connect with that person, you connect
- 50:16Speaker 3: to your social media. You can ask for that person
- 50:18Speaker 3: to your social media, just post to say, look, I'm
- 50:21Speaker 3: looking for a person want to connect on to start
- 50:23Speaker 3: the club, you can start a Facebook club on your
- 50:26Speaker 3: Facebook and a group of people can meet through your Facebook.
- 50:29Speaker 1: That's what people.
- 50:30Speaker 3: Facebook advertises that all the time. Facebook is not promoting
- 50:34Speaker 3: likes or followers. They're promoting these clubs that you can create.
- 50:38Speaker 3: And there are people over these Facebook clubs, but one
- 50:40Speaker 3: hundred thousand, half million groups of people who meet through
- 50:44Speaker 3: these clubs in these chatrooms. So I would start with
- 50:47Speaker 3: your social media and put the word out what you're
- 50:50Speaker 3: trying to do, and you can screen these people. But
- 50:53Speaker 3: more importantly right because you're not looking for a mentor,
- 50:56Speaker 3: you're looking for somebody who thinks like you, who is
- 51:00Speaker 3: the same aspirations, the same goals, and the same hard
- 51:03Speaker 3: working skill set, and you can find that person through
- 51:07Speaker 3: social media today. Okay, I got phyllis, phyllis or mableton,
- 51:11Speaker 3: How you're doing phyllis?
- 51:15Speaker 10: How are you good?
- 51:17Speaker 3: Good?
- 51:17Speaker 4: Good?
- 51:17Speaker 3: Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. What can I
- 51:20Speaker 3: do for You's your show? I'm giving it. I'm no
- 51:22Speaker 3: more interviews. I'm just talking to y'all.
- 51:24Speaker 1: I'm talking to.
- 51:24Speaker 10: Y'all, and I don't really have a question. I just
- 51:30Speaker 10: want to say I am so excited that I heard
- 51:34Speaker 10: Crystal on your show today. I did not know who
- 51:38Speaker 10: she was. I've seen all the stuff that she has.
- 51:41Speaker 4: Good.
- 51:41Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy?
- 51:43Speaker 10: I know? And I wasn't even supposed to be in
- 51:46Speaker 10: the car. I am a I have a gift. I'm
- 51:52Speaker 10: the person that always does the videos for the parties
- 51:55Speaker 10: and the graduation And before Georgie Film Academy started, when
- 52:02Speaker 10: they were trying to get it started, I took a
- 52:04Speaker 10: class Atlanta, take a weekend class and just to see
- 52:09Speaker 10: what it was about. And I'm still dabbling in it.
- 52:13Speaker 10: And she has inspired me. I'm almost in tears. Really
- 52:19Speaker 10: me tell you a little.
- 52:20Speaker 3: Thing about her resume. She started in the high school.
- 52:23Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that you got to start in
- 52:25Speaker 3: high school. It's awesome at a camera shop, at a
- 52:29Speaker 3: camera shop and making well.
- 52:31Speaker 1: She converted old.
- 52:32Speaker 3: Sixteen millimeters home videos to videotape movies, to videotape.
- 52:37Speaker 1: That's how she started. That's how she started.
- 52:39Speaker 10: She was talking. She was literally talking to me today. Okay,
- 52:45Speaker 10: I just came from class from uh I go to
- 52:51Speaker 10: a technical college in the media. I've been in media
- 52:53Speaker 10: all my life, but I've been working on a job
- 52:56Speaker 10: because life happened to me. I'm thirty seven years into
- 52:59Speaker 10: my job. I could have retired in twenty fifteen, but
- 53:02Speaker 10: I'm still sitting here and then trying to make this
- 53:06Speaker 10: film thing happen. She was talking to me today.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Let me tell you something right quick.
- 53:11Speaker 3: Don't say film thing that you said, thing like it's
- 53:15Speaker 3: not something that you can do or going to do.
- 53:19Speaker 3: I always tell people when I when I wake up
- 53:21Speaker 3: in the morning, I do exactly what I'm going to do.
- 53:24Speaker 12: Now.
- 53:24Speaker 3: I'm tired all the time. People hear that as people
- 53:27Speaker 3: say that too. I say that. One radio he said,
- 53:29Speaker 3: we sure you get at four thirty in the morning.
- 53:31Speaker 3: I said, I'll be mad when I get up to
- 53:33Speaker 3: I got up before thirty this morning, and I was
- 53:34Speaker 3: not happy, but I had to get up because I
- 53:37Speaker 3: had goals tied to.
- 53:38Speaker 1: Be getting up.
- 53:40Speaker 3: And that's what makes a difference when you're trying to
- 53:43Speaker 3: be successful. So when you called me, you just amplified
- 53:47Speaker 3: your dream. You saying it out loud and other people
- 53:50Speaker 3: are hearing that. And when you say it out loud,
- 53:53Speaker 3: that's you started your goals in motion.
- 53:55Speaker 1: So don't stop.
- 53:56Speaker 10: I can't. This is her show. You recorded it, right,
- 54:03Speaker 10: I gotta I gotta hear it again because to begin
- 54:06Speaker 10: out of the car.
- 54:06Speaker 4: But I heard the important part.
- 54:08Speaker 1: That I needed to heal with my friend. The important
- 54:12Speaker 1: part is that you called in.
- 54:14Speaker 3: And the important part is that this show is here
- 54:16Speaker 3: every week, and this show is for you and everybody
- 54:19Speaker 3: who listens. And I want to inspire people. That's all
- 54:22Speaker 3: I want to do with money. Main conversation.
- 54:23Speaker 4: I'm I'm sorry, and you know they shout, they shut.
- 54:28Speaker 3: Down music for an hour and let me talk to
- 54:30Speaker 3: people and let me invite friends on people.
- 54:33Speaker 10: And I listened to you here, I listened to you
- 54:34Speaker 10: here and there.
- 54:35Speaker 1: Well, that's all I need is hear and that.
- 54:38Speaker 3: That's all I need is hear and that because here
- 54:41Speaker 3: and that keep you rolling because of because it's.
- 54:44Speaker 10: Sitting in the car. I don't want my husband to
- 54:45Speaker 10: see me cry.
- 54:48Speaker 13: Well, I'll tell you this. You drive them tills, your
- 54:51Speaker 13: little thirty seven year old behind.
- 54:53Speaker 1: I can't. I'm so old.
- 54:55Speaker 13: My job thirty seven Okay, you've been on your job
- 54:58Speaker 13: thirty seven year. We guess I'll tell you something about
- 55:03Speaker 13: this and I'm gonna wrap up.
- 55:05Speaker 1: And by the minute, is that do not let age
- 55:07Speaker 1: be an excuse? Okay, Oh I don't, I don't.
- 55:10Speaker 3: Can you cannot? And so, But people are listening on
- 55:14Speaker 3: this call right now, listen to this call, have loud
- 55:17Speaker 3: age being an excused. They've allowed family to be an excuse,
- 55:20Speaker 3: They've allowed injuries to be an excused. They've allowed themselves
- 55:23Speaker 3: to be the excuse. My friend, you take this inspiration,
- 55:29Speaker 3: you take this moment that you've had on the radio
- 55:31Speaker 3: with me, and continue to stay motivated, and you update me.
- 55:35Speaker 1: Okay, call me next week coming jute.
- 55:37Speaker 3: So we shine this was happening because I'm being on
- 55:40Speaker 3: the air do I'm not going anywhere.
- 55:42Speaker 1: And they've told me they like me up here at
- 55:44Speaker 1: this station, and so it says they like me. You know,
- 55:47Speaker 1: we're gonna be here for a while. But thank you
- 55:49Speaker 1: for calling the money make com