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Rushion interviews Tasha Page Lockhart, star of WE tv’s “Grown and Gospel.” She opens up about personal struggles with addiction and mental health issues, including depression and anxiety. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: up tonight. I have two of my gospel friends on
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  Speaker 1: the show today. The first part of the show be
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  Speaker 1: led by Tasha Page Lockhart and the second half of
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  Speaker 1: I guess Hell's from Detroit, Michigan. That's my first guest,
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  Speaker 1: multi time vocalist Tasha Page Lockhart. Tasha is the daughter
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  Speaker 1: of award winning gospel singer Lisa Page Books of the
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  Speaker 1: female group Witness Tasha Page two time Stellar Award winners.
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  Speaker 1: To start, we TV's Growing in Gospel. It's the first
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  Speaker 1: season and we will be talking about it because I've
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  Speaker 1: seen all the episodes. We will hear her life and
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  Speaker 1: some of the personal struggles with addiction and mental health issues,
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  Speaker 1: including depression and anxiety. We will discuss new projects that
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  Speaker 1: she have coming up, because I want to know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure booking after I've seen this episode, these six episodes,
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  Speaker 1: there's a book in her future. I'm just gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying I'm some fortune teller, but there has to
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  Speaker 1: be a book a Ouiji board. She's also active in
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  Speaker 1: her community, working to support mental health awareness and advocacy,
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  Speaker 1: something we will be talking about today for sure. Please
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  Speaker 1: Tasha Page Lockhart, how you doing, my.
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  Speaker 3: Friend, I'm doing well. How were you? Say? So?
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  Speaker 1: If you're up in the Detroit you big d up
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  Speaker 1: there at De Truit.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm in Detroita. I'm born and raised here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You know I've met there many times. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: was managing Steve Harvey used to go up there and
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  Speaker 1: do concert dates and do live event dates up there.
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  Speaker 1: Some very familiar with Chicago and how has been renovated,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how the downtown made a big comeback and
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  Speaker 1: all those things. Now what you being born and raised
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  Speaker 1: there what is the state of Detroit right now? Detroit, Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: You know Detroit on the comeback. If you go to
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  Speaker 3: look downtown, you'll see everything that they have been building
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  Speaker 3: up the city downtown. It looks beautiful. It's amazing. And
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  Speaker 3: it's not just you know how sometimes you know, the
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  Speaker 3: other folks come and take over. That ain't the case
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  Speaker 3: down here in Detroit. Such a mixed crowd, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? You know Detroit, If I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 3: Detroit is about eighty percent of African Americans. So there's
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  Speaker 3: no way you could come to our city and not
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  Speaker 3: see you know, they always talk about crime, and they
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  Speaker 3: try to talk about how bad it is and all
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  Speaker 3: the negative things in our city. But there are some
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  Speaker 3: very prominent business owners and African American, wealthy black people
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  Speaker 3: in the city of Detroit that are doing their thing.
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  Speaker 3: If you go on livanoid, you'll see in the garment district,
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  Speaker 3: the fashion district there all of the businesses and stores
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  Speaker 3: and coffee shops and all kinds of things. We have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of business owners and entrepreneurs here in the
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  Speaker 3: city of Detroit, and so I'm proud of the city
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  Speaker 3: and what they're doing. They have been tearing down a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the abandoned home right, just really building the
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  Speaker 3: city up. So yeah, I'm very proud of my city.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's really sad that stereotypes do tend
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  Speaker 1: to lay itself on people of color, black people, brown people,
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  Speaker 1: people want a stereotype because when you're stereotype, you know,
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  Speaker 1: property value goes down, you know, the reason people want
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  Speaker 1: to come. Tourism can go down. People can fear for
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  Speaker 1: their lives, and that's been tragic to see that happen
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  Speaker 1: to your city. But now it's making the comeback and
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  Speaker 1: then you're part of you have to be extra proud
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  Speaker 1: of that because I know for a fact, I was
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  Speaker 1: fortunate to see the development of it coming around and
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  Speaker 1: seeing the downtown and driving around seeing in Detroit, seeing
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  Speaker 1: those abandoned buildings being torn down. So it's really a
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  Speaker 1: proud moment for me to see they come back because
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  Speaker 1: like you said, it is eighty percent black Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: Yes it is. Yeah, so I'm just about to be
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  Speaker 3: from here. You know, whenever you tell somebody you're from Detroit,
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  Speaker 3: they take great inside of you. That's period motown with
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  Speaker 3: just being motor city. And then my grandfather was with Motown,
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  Speaker 3: so he traveled with Barry Gordy. If you go to
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  Speaker 3: a History of USA, you'll see my grandfather's picture on
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  Speaker 3: the wall. He was in a group called the Monitors.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, my family has a long, rich history
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  Speaker 3: in the music scene, not just in God.
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  Speaker 1: So you had no choice. You had no choice but
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  Speaker 1: to sing as long as God gave you the talent, Tasha,
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  Speaker 1: you had no choice but to sing.
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  Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, so, I'm proud to be from Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when I think about, you know, music, I
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  Speaker 1: can't sing. You know, I got into the entertainment business,
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  Speaker 1: Tasha as a stand up comedian. That's God gave me
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  Speaker 1: that talent to be able to twitch words and make
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  Speaker 1: people laugh real hard and got paid real well for it.
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  Speaker 1: But to sing, that's a special talent. When did you
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  Speaker 1: realize you had the ability to sing? And was there
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  Speaker 1: an option to do R and B instead of gospel?
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  Speaker 3: You know, singing the most coveted talent and gift that
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  Speaker 3: there is. Everybody always saying I wish I could sing.
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  Speaker 3: If I could sing, I never shut up, you know,
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  Speaker 3: people always say that when I realized I could sing,
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  Speaker 3: I guess I would have to say I was in
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  Speaker 3: elementary school. Actually, because a lot of people may not know,
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  Speaker 3: but from the ages of seven to fourteen, I was
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  Speaker 3: doing jingles and voiceovers from Major.
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  Speaker 1: Coprien, Biscuit, Bisquit, you know all that stuff. Biscuit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, some some that you may have recognized, they didn't
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  Speaker 3: know it was me. I'm about to give you two
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  Speaker 3: of them real quick. You ready, America's best selling many bands,
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  Speaker 3: Dodge Caravan, that was that was one of my That
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  Speaker 3: was one of them. I know you heard that before
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  Speaker 3: I hear another one I first, So you're nine anyway,
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  Speaker 3: the best way to care that was me as well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I've done so many So that was.
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, you're talking to brother can't sing, but
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  Speaker 1: that's a jingle. How does I remember when I had
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx show back in ninety nine, we made a
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  Speaker 1: his character become a jingle writer, a jingle singer, and
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  Speaker 1: a commercial agency. How do you get Do you have
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  Speaker 1: to come in there and rehearse to be a jingle
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  Speaker 1: singer or how does that work? Or they just bring
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  Speaker 1: the option to you and you just cut it and
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  Speaker 1: they just choose. How does that happen?
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  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take you on the journey real quick.
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  Speaker 3: This is how my life has always been set up.
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  Speaker 3: And I know this is not a gospel show, but
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  Speaker 3: because I am a lover of Jesus Christ, I just
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  Speaker 3: add Him into everything that I do. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I'm not gonna ask for forgiveness, but
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  Speaker 3: you know I'm just gonna be I'm gonna be throwing
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  Speaker 3: out some gems and I gotta I gotta speak and
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  Speaker 3: brag on how good God is because this is how
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  Speaker 3: my life has always been set up. I live by this,
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  Speaker 3: and it's that every opportunity is an auditionip for something next.
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  Speaker 3: So I was just a little girl that was always
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  Speaker 3: in the studio when my parents would be working on
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  Speaker 3: music right and so because I was in the right
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  Speaker 3: place at the right time, they was like, oh, we
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  Speaker 3: need a little girl to ConA do a christ A commercial.
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  Speaker 3: So I went in the next rooman did the commercial.
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  Speaker 3: When me and my mom, When me and my mom
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  Speaker 3: the fear My Trailblazers Award Tribute to Mary Mary, I
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  Speaker 3: was walking down the hall in my attorney at the time,
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  Speaker 3: Attorney James Walker was coming down the hallway and he's
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  Speaker 3: sent the casting director from Tyler Perry and he introduced us.
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  Speaker 3: The rest is history. I did twenty Cities with Medea
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  Speaker 3: on the run. Every opportunity is an audition for something else.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just you have to be where you're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be. And that's the thing. When you're where you're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be, it's almost like you it's you're unstoppable.
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  Speaker 3: But whenever you get out of place, when you come
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  Speaker 3: off of the past, when you're not doing what you're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be doing, you're missing all of those moments
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  Speaker 3: and you're missing all of those opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's you know, that's important what you're saying, Tasha Page,
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  Speaker 1: because see let me, let me break it down to everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and it's about fear, because fear stopped a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, when you got every opportunity
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  Speaker 1: you had, fear did not to did not succeed. It
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  Speaker 1: ain't put doubt in you, it didn't make you question.
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  Speaker 1: You just felt that God it placed you in the
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  Speaker 1: right position and guess would you roll the strength of
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  Speaker 1: your belief and you made it happen. Plus you have
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  Speaker 1: the talent to do it as well. Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, you have to perfect your craft. You can't just
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  Speaker 3: lean solely on Oh, the favor of God, or God's
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  Speaker 3: gonna do it. God's gonna make a way. Yes he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't make ways. Yes he will open doors. He will
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  Speaker 3: put you on the minds of certain people. But when
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  Speaker 3: you get there, when you walk through that door and
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  Speaker 3: you stay in that phage, or you have to stand
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  Speaker 3: behind that podium or get on those instruments, whatever it
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  Speaker 3: is that you do in your field, you have to
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  Speaker 3: show up. That means your waiting period. When you're waiting,
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  Speaker 3: that has to be your preparation. You have to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that you master master your craft. So do your research, study, study, study, practice, practice, practice,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it may be. Get your Do you get media
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  Speaker 3: training so you can know how to have yourself in interviews,
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  Speaker 3: know how to handle yourself on red curtains. Do everything
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  Speaker 3: they need to do so you can say my part
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  Speaker 3: is done. No, okay, God, come on, it's on you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know this is an entrepreneur show. And
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  Speaker 1: when you said, rasheane, I'm gonna go there gospel, because
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  Speaker 1: see what people understand is that I was talking to
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  Speaker 1: Yolanda out at one time and she told me, she said,
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  Speaker 1: reshine business and God get business in God the same conversation,
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  Speaker 1: the same conversation, and I was trying to separate it.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to separate it. And when I hear
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  Speaker 1: you talk, and that's why I'm just slowing you down.
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  Speaker 1: Because every value that you every point that you just
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  Speaker 1: talked about, people should use in the every day for
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  Speaker 1: their week job, everything that. As an entrepreneur, if you're
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  Speaker 1: starting a business, you should know your craft. You should
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  Speaker 1: be willing to put into work. You should master your craft.
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  Speaker 1: Everything that you're saying, even if you're saying Rashan, look
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there. I'mna tell her, I'm gonna show
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  Speaker 1: my faith. But faith is tied to effort. Faith is
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  Speaker 1: tied to planning. And I just want to let everybody know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what she's saying is replicated every day in life.
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  Speaker 1: Whether you're a true believer of the faith or your
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  Speaker 1: person who believes that don't understand how to marry the too,
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  Speaker 1: it is the same. It's about effort, and that's about
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  Speaker 1: a belief.
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  Speaker 3: And passion absolutely, And it's about risk taking. It's about
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  Speaker 3: what risks are you willing to take? In business, in faith,
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  Speaker 3: in relationships, partnering, partnering with other people, you don't know
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  Speaker 3: these people. It's taking a risk in relationships, you don't
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  Speaker 3: know the person. I don't care how long you date somebody,
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  Speaker 3: you don't really know them until after you marry them.
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  Speaker 3: So it's all about risk taking. It's all about risk taking.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's really interesting to tell I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: to Tasha Page, like, I'm just tell you something. She
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  Speaker 1: can talk now, you know, I get a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people on my show, but you can talk. And that's
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  Speaker 1: a good thing because of the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 1: some people asking one question, it just they say yes,
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  Speaker 1: and you go, okay, did they just say yes and
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  Speaker 1: not add anymore to the yes? But see, you have
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  Speaker 1: something to say and you're motivated to tell the truth.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're talking about the truth, it's about overcoming
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  Speaker 1: the odds. And you've had some ards you've had to
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  Speaker 1: overcome in your life, but you don't let them win.
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  Speaker 1: Some difficult moments that led you to depression and anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: How were you able to come over those, overcome those
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  Speaker 1: difficult moments in your past to have such a bright future.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't have ever been able to overcome any
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  Speaker 3: type of difficult moments. If in want Number one wasn't
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  Speaker 3: for God. And then you know, my upbringing, my family
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  Speaker 3: brought me up in church, and then the track of
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  Speaker 3: people that I have around me that hold me accountable,
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  Speaker 3: that pour into me, that check on me, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and then also just my want to. What I mean
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  Speaker 3: by my want to is I do not care what
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  Speaker 3: I'm going through in my life, what I'm faced with,
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  Speaker 3: what I'm dealing with, what I'm up against. I want
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  Speaker 3: to make it. I want to win. I want to
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  Speaker 3: be healthy. I want to see myself sowing and thriving.
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  Speaker 3: And you gotta want it. You gotta want that yourself
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  Speaker 3: more than you more than you want to be famous,
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  Speaker 3: and more than you want to have titles and a
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  Speaker 3: big name, and more than you want some material things
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  Speaker 3: you got. It's always an inside job. And so because
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  Speaker 3: I'm my biggest fan, because I want to be I
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  Speaker 3: want to be well, and I want to be whole
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  Speaker 3: and healed, first of all for myself, so I can
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  Speaker 3: be the best representation for God and for myself and
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  Speaker 3: show up for myself and for my family and my
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  Speaker 3: children and my eight month old granddaughter. Like I have
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  Speaker 3: people that are depending on me, that are looking up
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  Speaker 3: to me. Let alone I'm not even going getting into
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  Speaker 3: the followers and the supporters and the people. Some of
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  Speaker 3: the people I'll never meet, but they look to me
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  Speaker 3: for wisdom. They look to me as an example, and
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  Speaker 3: you know that's a big responsibility. So I have to
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  Speaker 3: say that's how I made it, putting God first, but
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  Speaker 3: then also wanting it so bad that I was willing
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  Speaker 3: to do the work to get it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's important. I'll tell you she can talk. But
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  Speaker 1: guess what when we come back from this break now,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the first season of we
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  Speaker 1: TV's Grown in Gospel and they doing some things over that. No,
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  Speaker 1: Fred Hammond daughter, You're about to learn some things about Fred.
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  Speaker 1: Am about to learn a few more things about mcgirl,
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  Speaker 1: Tasha and her maid in her life. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: break it down, my boy, Jay Brooks, Elijah, Shana. I
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  Speaker 1: know them all now because I watched the whole season. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't renewed it yet, but they put all that
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  Speaker 1: stuff out in the public now, So I hope it
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  Speaker 1: gets renewed because they put everything out there in the
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  Speaker 1: first season. We'll be right back for Mcgirl, Tasha Page Lockhart.
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  Speaker 5: Everything should not be taken personally. So I absolutely agree
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  Speaker 1: to Tasha Page Lockhart. Incredible singer going to sing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things you do. You have an option,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know. She came out singing, singing jingles,
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  Speaker 1: just walking down the hall being got on tour ord
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  Speaker 1: with Medea. That's Tyler Perry Medea, just walking down the hall.
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  Speaker 1: Got that ready. Somebody tapped on the shoe. She read
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: gen jump back and go, oh my god? She said, when,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: how and how come? All those things left her to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: understand that if you follow your belief, follow faith, then
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: great things can happen. That's what I preach on this show,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: but she's given it a different spin on It's about effort,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: planning and goals. She is ready. She wakes up in
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the morning prepare for success, and with success, an opportunity
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: comes her way. Tasha's ready. That's what I love about you.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And when I was reading your bio or reading your
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: history and like before the show, I called her because
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted her to hear my voice. I want to
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: let her know what type of show did I do,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: because I never interviewed her before. Because I wanted to
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: come on with this type of energy so she could
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: understand that this is a positive show and your energy
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Tasha is incredible. Is it always been like this.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is who I am? You know, this
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: is this is who I am. And then going back
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: to what you were saying about, you know, struggles and
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: going through things. This is That's how my family knew
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: that I was going through because they were like, wait
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: a minute, you've changed. You know, I've always been buggly,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I've always been very talkative. I'm a communicator. I love
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: to talk. I'm a people person, so I'm always making
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: somebody laugh and you know, just the fun to be around.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And so when life started license and my personality started
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: to become altered because of what I was dealing with,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: That's how they knew something was going on.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it was really interesting when I was
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: watching the show and you know, you know, I know
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Fred Hammond, you know many times came on the Steve
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Harry Morning Show, and then you you know my boy
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin. You know, it's so many names. And just
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: read a minute of inspiration with my girl care shar
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and its Loanda Adams has just brought up her name.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: It's just so much. I've walked that walk with so
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: many people. They've shared their stories with me that it
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: really make me realize how how I'm able to communicate,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and communicating with you is such a key element to that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So when you're making the decision and making these career moves, Tasha,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: what goes to your mind because I'm about to go
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: into this reality show that you're doing on week? What
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: made you go into that direction and what prompted you
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to say this is good for my career.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Well, you know some people were saying that don't do what, Tasha,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: is going to be career suicide. You're in the gospel
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: music industry, and you know reality TV is so messy
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: and this isn't And I have to really stop and
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I prayed about it, and it has with anything that
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I do, have to line up with my purpose. I
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: can't be money driven, I can't be saying driven. I
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: can't be any of those things. It has to line
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: up with my purpose. And you know, the Bible talks
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: about confessing your thoughts one to another. It also talks
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: about the power of confession. You know, they overcame by
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the word of their testimony and the blood of the
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Lamb in Revelation and twelfth Chapter. So this was an
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: opportunity for me to be transparent and show the truth
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: about my life, where I was in my life at
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: that time and now to see where I am today.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: That is showing how God literally turned my life around
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: in less than a year. And so it just all
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: made sense for me to be able to do the show.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I was never scared. I was never nervous
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: of being black, bad, canceled, or anything because I wasn't
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: out anybody and I wasn't dashing anybody or talking down
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: on anybody else. I didn't go on the show for
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: a controversy or mess I went on there to tell
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: the truth about my life. And the fact is life
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: within itself can be messy. So I didn't have to
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: contrive a story, make nothing up. I didn't have to
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: cust nobody out and throw no drinks for nobody.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You did not, You did not.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And you walked out of their lawyer's office. You know
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you was in tears and lawyer didn't know what to do.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I thought that was an honest moment, when you were
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: talking about your life and realizing that it was going
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in this different direction, when you was trying to get
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: back with your husband, trying to reconcile, you know, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: then when your friend came over, Nikki, I believe the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: road manager came over. You're talking about what happened. You know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: One thing about these shows is that they always makes
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: me nervous. Tasha's dad, you got your story, then you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: bring all these other people in and they got their
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: story too. How does that reflect on you? Like, for instance,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: breathe her story? Now, I don't know what producer, I
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: don't you know why Bree had to tell everybody that
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: she was a stripper. Nobody didn't do that. Why Brie
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: had to say that, I don't know. But these are
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the type of things that can you can sell on
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: these shows. They work for the show, but they might
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: work for your career. And I'm not saying that was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a negative, but sometimes you have to understand that they
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: do have ramifications. Is that a correct word to us
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: in that situation?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? You know, everything comes with the consequence, whether
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: good or bad, right, and you have to consider those
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: things before you do it. And then sometimes you know
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you're getting your feelings or it's you gotta be careful
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: because when you're sitting in a room with six of
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: your friends, and people you've been knowing twenty plus years
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: or more and you got a mic on you. Sometimes
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: you're not thinking because you're like, Okay, I'm sitting here
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: with my BFF or this is my brother, or this
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: is we're just talking. So that's why it's tricky with
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: reality TV because they cannot edit and something you never said,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: but if it comes out of your mouth and you
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: don't have creative controller, you're not as one of the producers,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: then you can't control how they edit, or they do
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: a facial expression, or they cut something up and make
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: it seem like you said something that you didn't. You know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: it's really tricky and you have to use wisdom. You
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: gotta be cognizant of the fact that you know they
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: can make this look however they want to.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Right, So let me ask you this. So when you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: with your husband trying to reconcile, right, trying to with
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: thoughts running through you through your mind, I got to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: play it this way or was that an honest moment?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking you know, because because you know, things
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: can go sideways, Like you said, whatever they capture on fam,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: whatever they capture on audio, you know, and this relationship
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: can go sideways when you walk into these scenes and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you know these are real scenes. You know that's a
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: man that you had a relationship, that was a man
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you're trying to reconcile with Tasha. What goes in your
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: mind to protect who you are but also be as
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: real as possible.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: In those moments, You're not thinking about protecting who you are.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: You're just you're playing the moments out right. You know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: you don't know what you're gonna say because there's no scripts.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: It's real. Like if there's no scripts, you get a
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: you get a time sheet in the morning. Sometimes you
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: don't even know where you're filming, so you get a
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: time sheet in the morning that says, this is what
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: time you're filming, this is the location. Sometimes you don't
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: even know who you're filming with. You know, with that
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: thing with him and I, we knew we were filming
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that scene, but we avoided a lot of conversations because
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: we wanted it to be real, we wanted it to
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: be natural. And then we had a conversation prior to
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: that where we said, Okay, these are the things that
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: are off the limits. We're not gonna talk about expouses,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: We're not gonna talk about children. We're now I'm not
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: going to bring up your church. It was just certain
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: things that we said, these will be off limits. Let's
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: keep the conversation focused on you and I. And so
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: those are some things that you have to do with
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: reality TV. But at the end of the day, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: felt like a lot was accomplished because we were able
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: to show like, yeah, we're believers, we're Christians, but we
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: have we our lives getting messy, we make mistakes just
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like you. Such happened, and so I was I was
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: happy when I when I looked back at it, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: was a little nervous, But when I back at it,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I'm proud of myself because
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I did something that first of all, I'm a woman.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Number two, there's some men that wouldn't even go on
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: national television and admit to having an affair. So it's like, I.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna say that, I ain't putting all your business
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: down in the streets.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Now, all your business it's already on. It's already on. Listen.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I ain't got no shame in my game. It is
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: what it is.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: You know, because y'all were separated that when it happened.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Y'all was separated. Okay, let's go and get the facts right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: There were separated.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, we were separated, and now I did think we
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: were getting the divorce at the time we ended up getting.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: But it's still I have to be held accountable for
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: my actions. There's no for that. You're not divorced until
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: you're divorced. And I would not suggest or or advise
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: any person that is separated or going through a divorce
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: to give their body to somebody else. You know, go
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: through your healing process, love on yourself, get hell, get whold,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: go through therapy, do all of those things before you
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: jump into another relationship, because all you're doing is damaging
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: yourself even more. So, you know, I know where I
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: went wrong, and that was a part of me coming
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: on the show to say I'm woman enough to admit
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: when I've been wrong and to apologize and keep it moving.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something you're doing more than that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: You know you are so talented. I'm just gonna let
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you know so talent, so gifted. You're such a great communicator.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: What I know. We're wrapping up the interview here, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like I said, she called me rich and how long
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: am I talking? I can talk to you for an hour.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I swear to you you that you know you you
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: are that good of a storyteller, and you don't you know.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I can tell when I'm talking to people when they
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're couching their words, and I don't want
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to say that, you're just talking, and you're smart enough
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to say. This is how I'm an honest person. So
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I have nothing to hide. And so with the stories
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: of the information I share with you is really on it,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and that came across on the show, So I know
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that they got to be a book coming up. Are
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you're going to write a book about your life that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you've experienced so far? What's the future for Tasha?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So I have one book that I put out a
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: few years ago. It's called and the Winner is Tasha
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Pay's Back uncut. You can find that on Amazon. But
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I am working on my second book, and it's called
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: it's a work book attached to it and it's called
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: it's simply called do the Work, which is the process
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: that I've been going through over the past two years
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: after being separated and then going through a second divorce,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: which has been very public. There's a lot of work
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: that has to be done. There's a lot of work
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: that should be done before marriage, there's a lot of
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: work that should be done during marriage and after if
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you go through a divorce or in a separation or
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. And not just in marriage,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: but in life. There is work that needs to be done.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Nothing comes easy, but if you put in the work,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: there is a great new ward that you will receive.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And so that's that I want people to really grasp
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the idea of you know, you can have all of
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: this vision and all of these ideas and say what
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: you want to do, but those things will not materialize
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: until you start putting in work.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Wow, Tasha, tell everybody about your handles, how they can
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: reach you all these good things. Interview.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: You can reach me on Instagram at Tasha Page Lockhart
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: on Twitter at Pasha Lockhart. You can go to my
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: website tp Lministries dot com where you can get new
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: merch There you can sign up for a one on
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: one life coaching consultations, or vocal training or artist development.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: You can actually buy my book on the website, All
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Things Tasha. You can book me from the website. Again,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: that's tp lministries dot com. Also, I'm going on tour.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I'm excited first week at June going on tour with
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: a comedian and his name is Travail Judt's going to
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: be merging. Yeah, we're going on tour and we're going
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: to be merging comedy with music and I'm excited to
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: premiere new music coming out in July answer seeing some
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: of your Sunday best favorites. And you can get the
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: tickets now go to this is Me tour dot net.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: This is me tour dot net and find your city there.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: And we're adding more cities because we're going to be
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: going all the way into August with the tour. So
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I'm excited about that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Cool. I want to thank you for coming to my show.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I got to come back because I want to do
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: some more things with you this summer. If you have time,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: please let me know, Okay, because you're fantastic, You're amazing, and.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Again, thank you so much.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation master Class.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: All right, Tasha Paige Lockhart, Bye, bye, my friend. Well
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I told you it's going to be a spirited show.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I got my gospel's Friends on the show coming up next.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: You have to be my fourth time interview in this
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: young brother we like friends. First time I interviewed him, well,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: actually the first time I saw him was in Houston
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: at the super Bowl event and I realized that guy's gifted.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: His name is La Crave. Be right back with more.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: They call him Christian rapper. I call him a brother
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: who's doing things and changing the world. The crate right
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: back after this break with rashon McDonald's money making compas
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: with his master class