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Presi Traverse Reflection, WMNF Christmas Tree, Stranger Things, TARC Winter Fells - Ep.14 · Run Mountain Peaks

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All right, welcome back to another episode of Run Mountain
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Peaks episode 14. And this was going to be the 1st
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guest episode, but unfortunately, things did not
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work out. And I'll tell you why.
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I was going to have my buddy Ryan Fornier on the podcast.
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Super strong runner, very fast gets after it and we're going to
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do a hike, try to get a little bit of running in and then do
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the podcast. But on our on our way up north
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or during our trek, we encountered some a little bit.
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We can count on some barriers that slowed us down.
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So today we did the Osceola's. We did them from the Cank
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because in the winter triple I row to shut down and you can
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only do them from basically going up E Osceola and then over
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to Osceola and out and back. And Osceola is one of the more
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popular hikes in the White Mountains.
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I think it's a fairly easier one with really good views,
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especially from triple I Rd. It's it's a very mild grade and
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it's a great view. So everyone that's like one of
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the ones that people that people do for their first 4000 footer,
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one of the first ones that they do is the Osceola's or at least
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Osceola. But in the winter it doesn't get
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that much love. You got to go up E Osceola with
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which is a a steep climb. And then in the winter it can be
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even more, even harder. It can be icy a little bit.
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And so it doesn't get a lot of love.
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But the 4000 footers, I mean, everyone likes the 4000 footers
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every day of the week now, gritters list people, everybody
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goes out. And so between Thursday and
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Friday, I was banking on somebody breaking that out.
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But we started out, we got there a little after 9.
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Strategically in the winter, I'll sleep in a little bit
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extra. It's going to be a lit, you
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sleep in a little bit extra. It's going to be a little bit
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warmer when you start your run and hopefully people are ahead
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of you breaking out trail for you.
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So if the trails aren't packed down like it's snowed Wednesday,
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I think it's snowed Wednesday night.
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So we got recent snow up there and, and yeah, usually just let
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some of the hikers get a little head start ahead of you.
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It's going to make your day easier.
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So we get there at like 9:00 and 9:15 start and there's a few
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cars in the parking lot. The parking lot is like a foot
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and a half of snow. It felt like apparently some guy
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in the in the in the parking lot who was there getting ready when
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we pulled in said that they just helped get a Subaru that was
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stuck in the lot off the lot. And then they went and parked.
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There's a little like the ski trail that you can take right on
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that turn on the Kank. There's a little pull off room
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where a lot of people park in the winter if you can't get in
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the lot. But I mean, I have a four wheel
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drive truck so I was like, I should be good.
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And we start going up, It's like a sharp turn and there was a
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foot and a half of snow and it was all this like beach sand,
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loose snow. And it took me, you know, 5
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minutes to park this thing and get it next to like the three
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other cars in the parking lot. So there were a few other cars
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in the parking lot. So I knew I could get in there.
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But it took a little, a little 27 point turn to get really
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tucked in next to a car. But we did it and there were a
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few cars there and then there were I think 4 cars at the
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parked on the side of the road. So 7-7 people on the trail.
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So it's like all right, nice. And Ryan, he, like I said, super
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strong runner, super fast. He he hiked it the Appalachian
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Trail, I think the year before, yeah, I think last year he hiked
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it, but he hasn't done a ton of other 4000 footers and not a ton
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of the winter hiking up there. And so I was supposed to be kind
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of more, more like, I know what I'm doing out here kind of thing
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because I go like every weekend, especially in the winter.
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And I told him I was like, there's a few people ahead of
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us. It's you're not going to post
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hole today. It's going to be annoying.
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It's probably, it's definitely going to be harder if you don't
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have snowshoes because you have like he didn't have like good
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running snowshoes. I was like, it's just going to
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be kind of more difficult for you, but you should be fine.
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Like you're not going to destroy the trail post sewing.
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It's just going to stink a little bit for you.
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I think snowshoes are a little bit faster, but I mean, there
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are a bunch of cars there. So I was like, yeah, I, I, you
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know, probably don't need them. So I, I put on my Dion snowshoes
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at the, at the trailhead and he didn't.
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And we take off running and the first mile up to that junction,
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it was smooth sailing, chit chatting, good to be out.
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It wasn't super, super cold, you know, And then we catch up to
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maybe like one or two people going up.
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And then we start climbing up towards the East Osceola climb
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and we pass a couple of people, maybe like one or two groups.
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There's a group of five. And right before you have that
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mile of like 1700 feet of gain, super, super steep on East
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Osceola, we catch up to this group of women, 3 ladies, and
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they are breaking out trail and they go, oh, thank God, thank
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God you guys are here. And I was thinking, I looked
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around, I was like, Oh no, I did not expect us to be breaking
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trail today. So I mean, in the winter you're
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going to just have to break, break trail a little bit.
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But E Osceola is a tough climb to do it in.
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So I had small Dion snowshoes. He didn't have snowshoes, no
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poles. We both had two sets of gloves,
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which is fine, but no poles. And on that super steep climb,
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just it was, it was a bear. And so, yeah, once we started
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breaking trail, we had probably 2 miles to East Osceola and then
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to Osceola before we turned around.
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I knew we were going to be breaking the trail the whole
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time. I was like, this is going to
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take us a lot longer than than we planned on.
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And I was kind of disappointed that no one had been out there.
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I, you know, it makes sense in the weekdays less people get out
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in the winter. But yes, but basically, so last
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Sunday I go to Canon and there's only two people parked at Canon.
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I also got kind of like a 9:00 AM start.
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And so I don't, I don't know if if this winter there's less
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people getting out or it's just been really snowy so people are
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down or it's the holiday season, people are have errands are busy
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or whatever. But it seems like from my
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experience, less people are getting out this winter.
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And so we didn't get the benefit of getting getting the trail
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broken, so we had to break it. It ended up being fine.
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It was a good day. But yeah, we broke trail for a
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while. And they were, I mean, it was
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probably a good 8 to 12 inches everywhere.
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And then there were up to two 2 1/2 foot drifts once you got in
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between the peaks. So it was slow going.
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We definitely both got a little bit cold, like we were moving a
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little bit light, but we made it and essentially it ate into all
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of the podcast time. So Ryan will be back, we'll be
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on the podcast eventually. You'll get to hear all the the
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crazy stuff he's done because he had a big year this year.
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He did a lot of cool stuff. So we'll have him on and talk
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about all that stuff, but not today.
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So what do we have today? Today I'm going to do, I'll do a
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quick my first winter Prezi Traverse story because I just
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think that's a funny story to tell and there's just kind of 1
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moment that is just so stupid looking back.
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So I'll do that. I'm going to talk about the Tark
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Winter Classic race that happened.
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Was it last weekend? Yeah, I think it was last
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weekend. We'll go through the results a
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couple of really strong times there.
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That's a fun big race to follow. And Tark just does.
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People always show up for the Tark races.
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So we'll go through those results, the Mac and cheese
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results. So actually, unfortunately, I
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didn't do the craft versus Annie's challenge doing it
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tonight. So maybe I put this at the end
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of this. Maybe I do like a recap at the
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end of this episode or it just has to wait in another week.
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But the reason I didn't do it, I had full intentions to do it
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Wednesday of this week. I only have one pot in my
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apartment. I have this one big pot that I
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just used to boil and cook everything in.
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I think it's efficient. I think it's effective.
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You know, I don't like to have a ton of things in my life.
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You know, I feel like less items, less stuff you got to
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stress about, but I could not usually I can think of other
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ways to make things like, you know, lacking all of the kitchen
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stuff that maybe I should have. I couldn't figure out how to
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make two pots of Mac and cheese without tainting one of them to
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taste them at the same time. Because I think eating Mac and
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cheese right after it's done versus 15 minutes after it's
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kind of had cooled in the in the the cheesy liquefies, the
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liquefied cheese is kind of starting to solidify.
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I think there's a big difference and we want even even playing
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fields for the Mac and cheese taste test.
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So going to purchase another pot because I have AI have two cast
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iron pot pan kind of things that I have boiled water in and could
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you could have used, But I didn't know if the flavors in
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those pots would impact the Mac and cheese.
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So we needed a head to head at the same time challenge.
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So going to do it tonight. We will get those results later.
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And I will say I posted it. I was getting a lot of comments
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on the Instagram that I posted. It sounds like everybody is on
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the Annie's train. I said in the podcast last week,
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I have never even, I don't even think I tried Annie's.
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I've always been a craft person and I am.
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So I, it was like Annie's 100,000% not even close.
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Everyone was on Annie's side. So I'm assuming Andy's is going
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to be better, but but we're still going to do the tape, the
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test and I will give my results. And a couple of the things that
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I did think about it, when you go to the Craft Mac or the Mac
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and cheese aisle, there's Annie's, there's Craft.
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And then and these boxes are like 5-4 for $5 or something at
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Market Basket, they do have a Mac, Market Basket Mac and
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cheese that's like you can get like 8 for $3 like crazy cheap.
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And all I know for sure is that cannot be the best Mac and
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cheese. It's got to be crafter Annie's.
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There was another brand that I heard that people say are pretty
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good, but it seems like Annie's a clear favorite.
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I'm still going to give it a go and I will still report back.
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And no offense. Sabrina said that she always
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liked the shaped Mac and cheese, like, you know, the SpongeBob or
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whatever characters Mac and cheese.
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I told her when I was a kid, those things scared me.
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I the, the, the texture in my mouth when I ate those, I did
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not like it. So all I know is that I, I was
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thinking too, maybe I should do like a white cheddar Annie's
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regular, Annie's regular craft and then the shapes craft and
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then throw a Market Basket in there.
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But I mean, I would go into a food that is, I would feel so
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horrible after trying all those Mac and cheeses.
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I, this is not something I eat regularly.
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It's kind of like a treat like once or twice a year I'll make a
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box. I don't think I can eat five
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boxes of food because when I start eating, I I usually need
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to eat, eat it all. So I would just way overdose on
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Mac and cheese. So that's that's one topic that
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I guess you might have to wait for next week or I'll throw it
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in at the back of this Next up week, me and Jocelyn cut down a
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Christmas tree in the white national White Mountain National
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Forest. I'll talk about that experience
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because it was not what I was expecting.
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And then I'm going to do a fantasy football rant.
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I'm going to talk about Stranger things.
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Oh, we did the start. Yeah, I'm going to talk about
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stranger things because I'm, I just started season 3 guys.
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And I know it's, I feel like it's big right now.
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I'm not caught up. I'm trying to get caught up.
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I'll give you my thoughts on stranger things.
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And then, oh, we did the Osceola trip report.
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So that's, that's what I have today.
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So a couple running things and then a couple kind of more fun
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things. But all right, so First off,
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we'll do let's go to the the Tark race results before I do my
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first Prezi. And also I will say I brought
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the the full chopper winter mittens today.
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It's a little bit warmer than last week, but last week my
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index finger, somebody, John Bori commented on my Instagram
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and said, is your finger cold? I could not feel my index finger
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until, I mean, I, I recorded it at Cannon Mountain, which is
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like exit 34B in the White Mountains.
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I think it was probably exit 28 or 29 before I could feel my
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finger again. I was, I was a little bit
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nervous that I, I'd done some permanent nerve damage there.
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So we're keeping everything covered today and probably the
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rest of the winter. We just got to tough it out.
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I mean, this is yeah, I started a podcast and and I just do it
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in the back of my truck and we have the coldest winter we've
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had in like 10 years. But no, I kind of, I do kind of
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like it. It's kind of too.
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But OK. So the Tark race, this is one of
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the so the Tark races, I think they're all in Massachusetts.
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Maybe the Wapak starts in New Hampshire, but most of these are
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Massachusetts based races, very popular outside of Boston.
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So you feel like you have a big running community in Boston and
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in and around Boston and they have a bunch of cool races.
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I have not raced in any, but I volunteered out a few.
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I've been to a few. There's lots of people there
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that kind of the same people go and very enthusiastic and some
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so strong runners have ran over the years and this year.
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So it's always like a pretty competitive race and people
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throw it on some good times. So there is a, there are three
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different races. There's an 8 Miller, which I
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think it's just one loop of the Skyline Trail.
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Yeah, 8 miles, a single loop of the Skyline Trail.
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And then the 32 Miller is a four loop of the Skyline Trail.
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And then the 5th 40 Miller is the five loops of the Skyline
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Trail. I spend most of my time,
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especially on trails, like running in the mountains, some
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local mountains, but mostly up north in the Whites.
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And I think, you know, I started hiking more than running.
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And so I remember the first time I was going to the Skyline Loop,
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I was kind of like, this is some city running.
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This is going to be, this is going to be easy.
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It's going to be super fast. It's going to be smooth.
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Yeah. They say it's rocky.
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It's going to be smooth. The first time I ran the Skyline
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Loop, it is rockier than you. It is more technical than you
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would think. Like just looking at the map,
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there's no big climbs. It's all up and down.
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I think the loop has about maybe 12 or 1300 feet of climbing.
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So there's decent climbing, but there's no sustained climbs.
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And it's it's 1200 feet over 8 miles.
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So you're like, this is easy. It is a rocky loop.
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It's obviously not scrambly super steep like a white like
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the White Mountains, like a Monadnock.
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But as far as just kind of casual, more casual, kind of
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flatter undulating trails, it's as rocky as you get around in in
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New England, southern New England.
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So it is a good trail if you haven't been there.
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It's a good training for technical stuff.
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And I was impressed by it the first time I went.
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So it's a it's a good loop. We'll start with the 40 Miller.
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Only nine people did it. 9 results here.
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The winner, Matt Pacheco, he ran it in 631, which was over an
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hour ahead of the second place person, Tillman Daddy and then
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Grand Simon came in third. He ran 73353.
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So OK, so second and third had a photo finish.
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Let's call it yeah, photo finish that 5 seconds within each
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other. So Tillman digs it out and gets
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the gets the 2nd place finish there.
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And then the 1st place female was Taylor Varelli, Kingston,
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Mass. She runs nine O 7.
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She wins the 40. Miller Yeah, There are only nine
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people in that race. The 32.
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Miller, Max Perezik, he wins it in 447, which is I believe the
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third fastest time on that course.
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I haven't pulled up here. Yeah, Yeah, I have that pulled
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up here. Yeah.
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The third fastest time on that course.
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The course record is Patrick Karen.
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Duh. Guys an animal.
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He ran a four O 9 in 2018. That is just insane.
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And then and then the second fastest time in history was 443
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and Max runs 444. I don't know.
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Max yeah, I think he's from he's from the city, but he's been
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doing I think he was king of the White Mountains, the White
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Mountain Endurance Cup winner this past year.
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I on the air of era Viper racing team.
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Dude is fast. He he is fast.
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I think somebody told me he does like bike or he was a cyclist
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and then he got into trail stuff and he he's been doing all the
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races. And yeah, that is a super legit
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time. I mean, Dan Gripp ran that last
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year and ran it at 4:50. And Dan Gripp, I mean, go look
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at his sign up. That dude is super fast, has won
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big races. Keith Nadu 2023 runs 451.
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So these are the kind of people that he that he put up a good
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time with. I don't know what the weather
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was. I know it was cold last weekend,
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but I'm assuming it was like decent weather.
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So some, some sluggers. So that was a really good time
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by Max. He won by about 20 minutes.
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So Christopher Stevers and came in second five O 6.
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And then Matt Carbone 528. If you don't know Matt Carbone,
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just a crusher. Just always he's done a bunch of
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races and just always super strong.
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The winner female Caitlyn Murphy, she runs 5:40.
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So let's see what let's see what that time is all time.
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So 540, the 32 Miller. So she runs the second fastest
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time of all time. Boom, there you go, Second and
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third fastest time for women and men's.
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Yeah. So Evelyn Needham last year ran
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a 536, and that's the only person who's run this faster.
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And there are some really strong runners.
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I mean, Cassandra Marin's on this list.
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I don't know, you know, a bunch of these names.
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Leah Lawry. There's a lot of Liz O'Connor.
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There's a lot of like strong runners that have came out and
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done this Tark race, especially the 32 mile.
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I think that one's the the most run and so yeah, some super
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strong, strong times there. So Congrats to all of those
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people. They don't have this list posted
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by man and female. So I see Emily Knowlton, she
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rents 7/12. She might have been in second
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and then Catherine, Emily may have been third or fourth or
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five. I may have missed a couple names
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here, but the the lists are posted.
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Tark does a weird thing where they post it on ultra sign up,
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but you can't get the whole list there.
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It's one of those results that just shows up in black.
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So you can't really do a little little bit of poking around
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there. But as it was this.
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And then last but not least, maybe we should have started
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with this, the eight mile race. Patrick Karen runs a course
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record 5430. I mean, just flying.
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I don't have yeah, I don't have the course records for the eight
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mile pulled up here. I wish they have like a Google
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spreadsheet, but oh, here we go. Oh, I'm in the Google Docs right
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now. Hold on, people.
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Hold on folks. Hopefully this is I'm just
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expecting, OK, I'm not going to look right now.
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I'm just expecting the top eight mile times the first like 4 out
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of the first five are just Patrick Karen in different
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years. That is my guess because he runs
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at that eight mile race every almost every year.
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So that's my guess on the course records there.
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Oh, this is just a 25. Oh, where did I see the course
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record? All right, I don't think we're
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going to want, want, want. I don't think we're going to get
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the course records right now. It's hard.
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I have so many tabs open on my phone.
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So anyway, he runs a course record.
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He did have the course record before.
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I think it was 55 something. And I mean, that dude is just
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just a crusher when he's running, when he's racing, yeah,
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if he steps in the start line yet head for head for second.
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He's super fast and super nice. He's he.
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I think he runs the Air Viper. All the air by accounts.
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So he goes to all the White Mountain endurance races.
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Run free. Am I am I, am I messing this up?
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Free move free, move free. Is his kind of like a brand or,
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or he's got a cool website up there.
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So yeah, he's a cool person to talk to.
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I like seeing him at the races. 2nd place was Samuel Cohen, one
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O 3. So Patrick Quinn's like 9
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minutes. Yeah, I mean, it's just dudes
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fast. And then Michael Sage runs one O
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9 for 3rd actually. OK, this is Sydney Swearingen
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runs a 1/19. She might have won.
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All right, hold on. Maybe I have to.
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I got to look. Yeah, Sorry.
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I'm sorry. I'm butchering this right now.
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I just want to make sure I get this right.
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OK. No, but it didn't come up.
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So, yeah, go check out the eight mile list and and we'll see who
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won. I think Sydney won.
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Crashed to Sydney. OK.
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I think those, I think those were the yeah, those are the the
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best times. How many people run this eight
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mile 63 people like that? Yeah, there's lots of lots of
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people run it. So that was the yeah, that was
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the Tark, the Tark race recaps. Yeah.
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Super cool, cool race. If you, if you haven't got
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there, went there and done it, go do a Tark race.
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They're fun. There's good camaraderie.
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If you're just getting into ultra running, those are great
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races to go to, to meet people, have people to run with everyone
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going different paces, party pace, fast pace, lots of a
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stations. It's not logistically super
22:01
hard. So those are good race to check
22:02
them out. OK, the first Prezi traverse
22:06
story. We'll, yeah, we'll probably make
22:08
this pretty, pretty quick. Yeah, yeah, we'll make it
22:11
decently quick. The first presidential story.
22:14
So I was just getting into ultra running and I had just done a 50
22:21
mile or so. I'd done that the virtual 50
22:23
mile that I kind of talked about previously and I think it was a
22:26
couple months after that. So I really hadn't even been
22:29
running. I'd, you know, been training
22:31
like barely. I wasn't even training.
22:32
I just would run once a couple times a week and was getting
22:35
into hiking and I heard about the Prezi traverse and was in
22:38
this kind of I want to do hard things mode.
22:41
And so I go and, and do this Prezi traverse and I talked to
22:44
my mom, who's a big hyper hiker and she kind of helped me with
22:46
tips. Do this trail.
22:47
You'll be good on your own, pick a good day, yadda, yadda.
22:50
So it's sometime in March and I go alone, and I'd done a couple
22:55
winter hikes with her, but I don't even know if I'd done
22:58
maybe one hike alone in the winter.
23:00
But I wasn't super well versed. But we picked a good day and she
23:04
dropped me off at the trailhead. So it was like I wasn't being
23:08
reckless by just going out there not knowing what I'm doing.
23:10
But I remember hiking up to Madison and Adams.
23:15
It was the first time. So I had brought snowshoes.
23:17
I had bought an ice axe. I put an ice axe on there.
23:20
I had at least 3 liters of water, I'm sure, and just a ton
23:26
of stuff, ton of layers, a huge pack all filled up.
23:30
And I'm going up there and I, and I've been doing a little
23:33
hiking, but I hadn't been doing a crazy amount of stuff and I
23:36
was thinking this might take me 12 hours.
23:39
And so that's what I'm thinking hiking up at 3:00 in the
23:42
morning, I get a couple miles up there and I'm thinking, I've
23:45
never hiked with a pack this heavy.
23:47
I think I weighed it was 42 lbs or something and I was thinking,
23:51
oh Yikes, this is this, this might not be good.
23:54
My legs are getting a little jello right now.
23:57
But kept going, kept hiking and I remember getting above tree
24:02
line. I had never been in the Prezis
24:04
and I didn't even know what Mount Washington looked like.
24:07
I hadn't seen pictures, like I didn't look it up really.
24:09
I just had a map and I didn't know what any of this stuff
24:12
looked like. So I'm getting up over tree line
24:15
and I remember peeking out and I remember looking.
24:18
So I went and did Madison in the dark and so I couldn't really
24:25
see too, too much. I come down, I head up to Adams
24:28
and it's starting to get sunrise and, and it, you know, it's
24:30
gorgeous up there. It's a great day.
24:32
It's not even super cold. It wasn't windy.
24:33
It was an awesome day. And I look at so Adams, I think
24:38
they're called the Adams 5. There's like 5 kind of peaks
24:40
around that area and only one is an official like 4000 footer
24:43
with prominence from the next mountain.
24:46
But there's a handful of higher points peaks up there.
24:50
And I remember looking up and thinking, this is so hilarious.
24:55
If anyone can like picture this in their head right now, please
24:58
stay with me. Looking at Adams and seeing the
25:01
Adams 5 and instead of knowing it was the Adams five, I
25:05
literally thought that's Adams, That's Jefferson, That's
25:09
Washington. And I'm like, Oh my God, this is
25:12
going to be actually kind of easy.
25:14
Like I'm just a killer right now.
25:16
And I didn't think they were all those five mountains.
25:18
I think if you are kind of looking to the right before as
25:23
the, as the Ridge starts to bend over towards Jefferson, I
25:27
thought that that peak was was Washington and there's nothing
25:31
over there. It's just like a higher points
25:33
on a Ridge. And I remember thinking like,
25:35
oh, Adams, Jefferson, Clay, Washington, boom.
25:38
This is like I'm, I'm actually flying.
25:41
I thought the pack was heavy, but I'm flying right now.
25:43
This is going to be easy. So I keep hiking up and as
25:46
hiking up the first Adam's five, I get kind of turned around
25:50
because there's no marks. It's all wind drifted.
25:52
It's winter and it's kind of crusted over.
25:55
So there's no no one had been up there yet.
25:57
And I get out my map and I'm like, Oh my God, though, I
26:00
don't, I think I'm off the trail.
26:02
So I kind of, I, I figure out where the trail is and I figure
26:05
out where Adams is. I was like, oh, I'm a little
26:06
disoriented right now. And I finally make it up to
26:09
Adams. And as you Crest over Adams, I
26:12
can just see Washington way the heck over there.
26:16
Like, I'm not, I'm not even in the ballpark of Washington.
26:19
And I, my heart dropped in my chest, out of my stomach
26:23
thinking, Oh my God, I am not even close.
26:26
I, I just thought that I skipped ahead 8 by 8 miles and I
26:32
remember being shook in that moment.
26:34
It was an awesome day. And it kind of just like
26:36
rearranged like, Oh, this is going to take me like 12 hours,
26:40
but I remember being like, oh, it's going to be easy.
26:43
And just, I'd never been up there.
26:44
I didn't even know what these mountains look like because
26:46
everyone knows what Washington looks like.
26:48
I didn't know. So that was the one funny part
26:50
from that story. And then the other big thing was
26:53
I had an ice axe with me. I got rid of, I gave, I gave it
26:58
to somebody, I think, and I don't really think there are
27:02
many places in the whites that you really need an ice axe if
27:04
you're just hiking kind of 4000 footers, Like if there's crazy
27:07
trails, yes, there's ice climbing places that you need an
27:10
ice axe, but I don't really think there's a ton of those
27:14
places that you really, really need in your arsenal.
27:17
And so, but I had it for the Jefferson snow field.
27:21
So that's like one place if it's icy, if it's, if it's kind of
27:24
it's a steep little spot you got to get across.
27:26
So that's why I had it and I knew the gist.
27:29
Like I figured I would know where it is when I'm on it.
27:33
But as I'm hiking over to Jefferson, I get to the
27:36
Jefferson snow field and I'm hiking across and like I said,
27:39
there had been no tracks up there.
27:40
Or maybe there's one set of snowshoe tracks from the day
27:42
before. So I'm kind of following that
27:45
and I, I realized that all of the snow, the snow, the snow was
27:48
kind of just like going off the trail and then just shooting
27:51
down and I looked down and it is super steep and essentially I'm
27:55
on the snow field like extremely steep grade.
27:58
So the ice axe is if you start sliding down that you just use
28:02
it to kind of self arrest. Is that the word self self
28:06
arrest? So anyway, but I'm on this one
28:13
tiny patch of, of snowshoe track and I have this huge 40 LB pack
28:20
with the ice axe strapped down on the pack.
28:23
And I'm thinking, I can't even reach my ice axe right now.
28:25
I brought this stupid thing up here and I can't even use it.
28:28
And I were thinking, well, I just got to keep walking
28:30
straight. Like this is one of those things
28:32
like, you know, mind over matter, like pretending you're
28:34
not 40 feet up and just walk straight and kept walking.
28:38
And there's a little like kind of rock area where somebody had
28:41
stopped up and padded out kind of a A4 foot by 4 foot area.
28:45
And even that was too weird for me to, with that big pack, sling
28:49
it off and get the ice axe. So I was like, well, I did half
28:52
of it without the ice axe. I'm just going to do the
28:54
second-half without it too. And so I walked across it and I
28:58
remember being like this, that was the stupidest thing.
29:01
Like I'm totally alone up here. I don't know what I'm doing.
29:03
I don't even know really what mountains I'm on and and I the
29:07
one safety gear that I have I I'm not even using it.
29:11
It's probably just hindering me because it's adding extra weight
29:13
to my top side. O yeah, that was my first winter
29:17
Prezi traverse story. Since then, I've had a ton of
29:20
winter hiking. I think it's so funny to look
29:22
back and think about that kid going out there and not knowing
29:26
what he was doing. But it was a good learning
29:28
experience. And like I said, I don't think
29:30
it was super reckless because my mom, she dropped me off and was
29:32
hiking Eisenhower was in the area.
29:35
It was an awesome day weather wise.
29:37
So it wasn't like I was doing anything super stupid, but that
29:40
I did not know what I was doing out there.
29:42
So that was a kind of Prezi Traverse story.
29:45
I think I finished it and maybe close to 11 hours.
29:48
And I remember being happy with that, which is so funny because
29:51
those conditions were really good.
29:52
And nowadays if I like it would be way like twice as fast,
29:57
faster than twice as fast that was.
30:00
So it's just funny to see how kind of how far I've come just
30:04
getting out in these mountains. But that was the Prezi Traverse
30:07
story. I thought it was funny.
30:08
Got a kick out of it, especially today, maybe a little bit under
30:12
prepared for the conditions I think.
30:17
Yeah, I was kind of talking to Ryan about.
30:18
This we essentially just did a 5 hour podcast without recording
30:21
it, driving up together and then just going out there just
30:25
talking all running stuff. We're we're very In Sync on a
30:28
lot of a lot of training thoughts and and lots of stuff.
30:32
So we'll definitely have him on the podcast.
30:34
But yeah, we're kind of talking about their, I think experience
30:39
in smart decision making can really save you.
30:42
And honestly, fitness in a lot of areas, fitness can really
30:46
save you in a lot of those kind of sketchy scenarios.
30:49
And it's all about making good decisions.
30:52
You know, I think everyone just screams like you got to have all
30:55
the essentials and you got to have a sleep pad and everything.
30:57
If something goes wrong, I think most of your risk is going to be
31:00
in making good decisions and banking on experience.
31:04
I've been in all sorts of of conditions up there and I know
31:08
all the trails, like all the hard parts, all the steep parts
31:11
where people are going to be where we could get help.
31:13
So as long as I don't get hurt kind of thing, you can always
31:17
mitigate. Like I don't have enough food or
31:19
I'm not staying warm enough. Got to turn around, got to make
31:21
decisions. I think it's all just making
31:23
smart decisions out there. And you know, four years ago
31:27
when I did that present reverse, I had 0 experience and now I
31:30
have a lot more. So that kind of shows, I don't
31:34
know, shows, shows risk in the mountains and, and just get out
31:37
there when there's other people with other people and and you
31:41
get more comfortable in the winter conditions.
31:43
So yeah, that was a pretty traverse story.
31:47
Next up, cutting down a Christmas tree.
31:52
So cutting our Christmas tree. So Jocelyn and I, like I said,
31:55
we, we got a Christmas tree. Basically you can, you can go
32:02
into the White Mountain National Forest and cut down like a DIY
32:06
your own Christmas tree. And it's $5 processing fee
32:11
online is 250, so $7.50. Go pick your tree.
32:15
And I think in what, you know, first you're doing it, it's
32:18
like, oh, this is an awesome idea.
32:20
Like it's so cool They do that. It's wet.
32:23
You know, it's just a, it's just a cool idea.
32:24
It's kind of an adventure. We go up there, we, we pick out
32:27
the perfect tree. That's not how it went.
32:30
So we get up there last weekend and I don't want to give away.
32:36
I don't really think there are many.
32:38
I don't think it's super secret where these trees are.
32:42
I mean, maybe in my head, but essentially I'm looking online.
32:45
There's a few different types of trees.
32:47
So some trees are going to be better, thicker, fuller than
32:51
other trees essentially. And there's a few different
32:53
types that you can use if you go to a Christmas tree farm, I'm
32:56
sure biohacking, they have the C's for the great genes, but a
33:01
lot of the natural tree selection, they don't have those
33:05
good genes. We haven't, we haven't mastered
33:09
that. That corn or whatever the
33:11
glycosite, it only kills certain gene.
33:14
It kills everything except the corn gene, whatever, you know
33:16
what I'm saying? Yeah, these trees are sparse.
33:20
And so my idea was the higher up you go, like you see those trees
33:25
as you get to kind of above tree line that look more Christmas
33:27
tree, there's just more of those kind of trees up there.
33:31
So my thought was just go to the highest point that you can kind
33:35
of access easily from a road. So I'm not going to, I'm not
33:38
going to spot, you know, say any spots.
33:43
I don't want to step on any toes, but just go as high as you
33:46
can and you're going to have a better selection.
33:48
And that's what we found. But the rules are you can't get
33:53
a tree within 100 feet of a road or a picnic area or a recreation
33:59
area or anything like that. You need to really be over 100
34:02
feet. And anywhere, you know, without
34:06
getting to the tree line, which you can't drive up to, there's
34:08
no place you can drive up to a tree line.
34:10
At least I can't think of any right now.
34:15
All all the places that the trees were growing and getting
34:19
enough sunlight and getting full are near the edges of the roads
34:22
are open areas with recreation areas where you can't really go
34:26
get a tree. And so you go as high as you
34:28
can. There's lots of good looking
34:30
trees that you can see from the road, but then you go 100 feet
34:34
off the road, there's nothing. It's all like crappy trees.
34:37
Like little sprawny. Scrawny.
34:42
Little trees and and that's what we found.
34:47
And so it was really tough. So we had a handful of spots and
34:51
we got up there. I think we started looking at
34:53
like 1:30 and we're like, all right, we have lots of time,
34:55
lots of time before it gets dark.
34:56
So let's hit a few of these spots.
34:58
Let's really make this an adventure.
35:00
So we see one spot. We actually found a decent
35:01
little tree, but like, all right, well, we like this tree,
35:03
but we're not going to take it home.
35:05
And I kind of started making this joke that Justin was
35:07
feeling bad about it. I was like being the tree being
35:09
like, no, please don't leave me if you don't come back and get
35:12
me. I can't take this cold anymore.
35:14
Please, please cut me down, take you, take me into your home,
35:17
your warm home, decorate me with ornaments.
35:20
And she was like, Andrew, stop, you're going to make me feel
35:22
bad. So anyway, so we had this tree,
35:25
but we ended up leaving it and we're like, if we can't find
35:27
another tree, we're going to come back and get this tree.
35:31
So we go out, we check another spot and there's lots of snow up
35:34
there and it's hard to walk around off trail areas.
35:39
So, and it's kind of just too thick and, and we're not seeing
35:41
any trees like, all right, that's a bus.
35:43
So we go to the next spot and it's like, now we can't get 100
35:45
feet from a road. Like the trees that we thought
35:48
looked good, we can't get 100 feet.
35:50
You know, we want to be all legal, you know, abide by the
35:54
law. So we skip that one.
35:56
And then we go to a couple places and then we're in this
35:58
kind of getting, we're going back and forth, look, you know,
36:01
looking at some of these spots. And then it's 2:30 and then it's
36:04
2:45 and then it's 3 and I'm thinking, Oh my gosh, I don't
36:08
know what we're going to do. So we end up flying back to that
36:10
first tree. We're like, we're going to give
36:12
you a home buddy. We're going to love you like we,
36:14
you know, we're going to feed you good.
36:16
It's going to be dandy and we. Get up there and it's it's.
36:20
Near an area, a man made area up there but it was further enough
36:29
away that it was way over 100 feet.
36:32
But then I go to the thing and there was a big sign that said
36:34
no Christmas tree chopping on it.
36:37
And in my head, it's kind of like, we shouldn't.
36:40
No, I shouldn't say that. You know, I'm putting this on
36:42
the Internet now, but I wish I didn't see that sign.
36:45
And I could have just cut it all legal and be like, oh, crap, you
36:47
know, we already cut it. I don't know.
36:48
We got to bring it home. But I saw the sign and I was
36:51
like, Justin, we really shouldn't cut that tree.
36:53
I don't know why this sign is here.
36:56
I know we're abiding by all the rules online, but this just says
37:00
no cutting of trees. It feels weird if we pull a tree
37:03
out of here. So then it's like, ah, whatever.
37:06
So then I'm like, all right, we just have to go to a lower
37:08
elevation where there's a trail and we just cover some ground
37:11
and we try to find a good tree. Didn't work either.
37:15
All of the trees are just these scrawny little trees.
37:18
And at this point I'm thinking like, all right, we just have to
37:20
take 1 of this is like, we got to take one of these home.
37:23
None of these puppies are are, you know, there's always
37:26
there's, I don't know, maybe I have to cut that out.
37:28
You know, there's, there's not going to be a perfect tree.
37:30
We're not going to come around a corner and there's going to be
37:32
just this glowing. We just got to make one work
37:36
that we think is quirky or whatever.
37:38
And honestly, Johnson's not having it.
37:40
I'm like, oh gosh, OK, there's one spot that we didn't die.
37:45
It was kind of like a spot you had to work to get towards.
37:48
We didn't go down there. Let's go try that.
37:50
And we get there and honestly, one person was cutting up a tree
37:53
and then this other person had this nice tree.
37:56
I didn't know where this guy got this tree, but he had this nice
37:59
tree. I told him I was like, dude, you
38:00
could start a timber company with that tree.
38:02
That tree is a perfect tree. Holy smokes.
38:06
And he was like, and I was like, dude, we've been out here for
38:09
way longer. I thought this would be easy and
38:11
fun. This is ridiculous.
38:13
And he goes, Yep, we, we did it for the first time last year and
38:16
it is not as easy as you think. And he was like, but this is
38:19
where we ended up. And I was like, oh, well, we
38:22
made it here. We were at a decent tree spot,
38:24
at least on this guy's terms. And this guy just cut down this
38:27
honker of a tree. So we kind of asked him where.
38:30
He got it. Hopefully he had a little
38:32
brother or cousin or something going on over there.
38:34
We could, we could take it home, but we go over there and it's
38:37
kind of like it wasn't a good area.
38:39
But then there's one last year we get to and there's a handful
38:42
of like decent trees. It was the right type of tree.
38:45
I don't know exactly what the pulse it was some sort of fir
38:48
tree. I know it was some sort of fir
38:50
tree, but it was the right type. It had decent genes.
38:54
It was just missing a little bit of oomph in the middle area.
38:57
But well, at this point it was getting dark.
38:59
And this is like we had to pick a tree.
39:01
So we picked the best tree. We cut it down, we brought it
39:04
home, we decorated it, gave it water, gave it heat, and we're
39:08
going to love it with all our might.
39:10
That's the Christmas tree story. I really just thought.
39:12
And so it just turned into a fiasco.
39:14
So here are my thoughts. If you want a Christmas tree,
39:17
you ever want to cut down a Christmas tree?
39:19
It is a fun activity. I think it is a cool activity.
39:22
It feels good to cut down your own, you know, tree in a kind of
39:25
a sustainable way. You know, the forest is a
39:27
billion trees up there. It's cheaper.
39:29
It's a fun activity. Have your dream tree GPS marked
39:36
during summer conditions because in the summer it's way easy to
39:39
walk around, but with all the snow up there it was hard.
39:43
You either had snowshoes or it's super deep and when you're off
39:45
trail it's like a crapshoot anyway.
39:47
It's so slow moving. So pro tip if you want to get a
39:51
Christmas tree, plan ahead early.
39:53
If you're going up to the whites, just take an hour after
39:55
a hike and find a good spot with a tree.
39:58
Find a tree you want. Have agps point second pro tip.
40:02
Everybody was going the week after Thanksgiving, we saw tons
40:06
of cars driving out of blank. Road.
40:11
Highway. Blank up there getting trees.
40:14
So it's like maybe it's not even a secret, like you just look.
40:17
They said if you call a Forest Service, they'll tell you where
40:21
you can get some. So we never called because it
40:24
was the weekend or something. But I'm sure it's not a secret.
40:27
But we saw lots of people hauling their trees out.
40:29
And honestly, the first couple we were thinking, and that
40:32
ain't, I ain't bringing that tree home.
40:34
That ain't a tree for us. But then we realized why all of
40:37
these trees looked like that. But I think we got a pretty
40:40
decent tree. And so the second tip, wait, GPS
40:45
it. Oh, the second tip, everyone
40:46
goes the weekend after Thanksgiving because you know,
40:50
Thanksgiving, you don't want to step on Thanksgiving toes,
40:53
right? Like it's it's a big holiday.
40:55
It's his own holiday. You don't want to step on his
40:56
toe. You definitely don't want to RIP
40:59
into Thanksgiving food because that would be a dumb idea.
41:02
So you don't want to do that. And so so we didn't want to go
41:09
that week and we wait the next weekend.
41:10
Everyone else is thinking that. So pro tip, Thanksgiving Inns
41:14
may do a little bit Black Friday shopping that Saturday, Sunday,
41:17
go get your tree because you're going to have a better
41:19
selection. If that guy didn't get that
41:21
beautiful tree, that could have been our tree.
41:23
So I think go early, look for trees often when you're up
41:27
there. And that's how you're going to
41:29
get a good Christmas tree in the White Mountains.
41:31
And I think the best way to do it is just hike up one of these
41:34
mountains above tree line. There's a couple.
41:37
Yeah. I don't know.
41:37
There's lots of those good trees.
41:40
The, the higher up you get, the better off you're going to be.
41:42
And no one's going to go up there, make a full day hike of
41:45
out of it, bring a sled or something and mark it like
41:49
there's a certain type of tree that you can see it when you you
41:53
know it. When you see it is a Christmas
41:54
tree, you have to find patches of those types.
41:57
So whenever you see that on certain trails, note it, go
42:00
back, get your Christmas tree. Things will be dandy.
42:04
That was a Christmas tree talk. OK, Next up, the fantasy
42:08
football rant. Bum, bum, bum.
42:14
Me and my buddy Bori. Who actually might have him on
42:17
the podcast? That would be an awesome
42:19
episode, guys. I love John Bori and I want that
42:23
on the camera and on the Internet.
42:26
We. Co manage a football team.
42:28
This is I've done lots of football teams and I love
42:31
watching football. I'm a pass fan, not like die
42:35
hard. So I feel like I can't I can't
42:37
be crazy when they're when they're really good.
42:39
I can't be like all in your face.
42:40
But when they're really bad because I don't really care that
42:42
much when they're really bad. But obviously grew up in the
42:44
Brady era. Pats fan have been playing
42:46
fantasy football, specifically in one league, the Merrimack bad
42:50
boys shout out Jake Chambers league for like 16 years or
42:56
something crazy. We started when we were like 10
42:58
or whatever, and so it's been a long running league and that's
43:02
kind of the one league that I got to.
43:04
I did a couple other leagues and it just got too much check on
43:06
the lineup. So I'm just so busy.
43:07
I couldn't keep up. But that's the one league we're
43:10
still in and everyone now has Co managers, which is actually fun.
43:14
I like having a Co manager because you live and die with
43:18
this with with your boy and that's what I'm doing with Bori
43:21
and we've been doing a lot of dying on this on in the podcast,
43:25
but are in the the fantasy Football League.
43:27
But 5th in the league in points scored.
43:31
We put up numbers every week, every single week.
43:35
We're we're we, we had Jamar Chase, we have Josh Allen, we
43:38
have Josh Jacobs. We have all of these people just
43:42
going off. And every week we go against a
43:46
high score. We're we have like by over 100
43:48
points, the most points allowed. We missed the playoffs this year
43:52
and it's just so frustrating. Obviously the points for I know
43:56
some leagues do where you pretty much they.
44:00
Don't even go by matchup. Stats they go by total points 4,
44:03
which is I think there's something to do with maybe
44:05
consistency, Like I like consistent players over just
44:08
people that go off one week versus not.
44:10
But I, you know, who knows different arguments, but it
44:13
really stings when you put I mean, it just feels like we're
44:17
both giving away $50 every year in this league.
44:19
The last three years we have just been getting absolutely
44:23
annihilated. The first year we did fantasy
44:25
together. Oh, we go on the seven O run and
44:28
fantasy the first year were Co managers and every Tuesday we're
44:32
getting on the phone after work, we're laughing, we're making
44:35
jokes. We can't be beat.
44:37
No, everybody's going off boom boom, but I can't even remember.
44:40
We had it on a team and it's just like we love fantasy.
44:43
This is amazing. Just talking smack the whole 9
44:46
and and ever since that run, we have just had nothing but losing
44:52
seasons. And it's just getting it's
44:55
getting so much to bear. And I think honestly, I have to
44:57
talk to the commissioner because we have the same, we have the
45:02
same schedule every year. And you don't play everybody
45:05
twice. You only play a few teams twice.
45:08
And every year we're getting Big Jim, Lil Jim twice.
45:11
We're getting, I can't say some of these fancy team names on the
45:14
I really get we're getting some of these teams twice and it's a
45:18
it's A1 keeper dynasty and maybe we're getting the good teams.
45:22
I don't know. But fantasy football, it can
45:25
just be heartbreaking sometimes. I feel like you put in so much
45:28
that I can't even watch. If I have two guys going that I
45:31
need to get X amount of points on a Monday night, I can't watch
45:34
it because I get too invested. If they get the points, I'm so
45:37
excited. If they don't, I'm upset and I
45:39
can't go to bed, you know, at a good time.
45:42
It's insane. And I am just, it's it's strange
45:46
how some people are just good at fantasy and some people are just
45:49
bad at fantasy because of injuries.
45:50
You never know. I think I am just bad at fantasy
45:56
and and it's brutal. So that's the fantasy football
46:00
update, but OK last topic of the day, Stranger things.
46:06
Do we do a motivational minute today?
46:08
Do I have something? Maybe I.
46:10
Do have something? But Stranger Things.
46:14
Started watching Stranger. Things I am on season 3 right
46:18
now so no spoilers. No spoilers at all because I
46:22
know season 5's getting out. I haven't been seeing any of the
46:25
season 5 stuff so I really I have no idea.
46:30
Yeah, I really, I really have. No idea what happens or you
46:35
know, I haven't really seen anything and so I'm just
46:37
watching it for what it is. So what do I think about
46:40
Stranger Things? The first week I was watching
46:43
Stranger. The first season I was watching
46:45
Stranger Things. I was remember thinking, what is
46:50
this show? This is like somebody told me it
46:52
was kind of a scary show and the first few episodes just like
46:56
didn't seem real. It wasn't scary because it
46:58
wasn't realistic and it was just kind of like it almost felt a
47:01
little bit goofy. Some of the stuff that was in it
47:04
was just like a little bit goofy and but whatever, I keep
47:07
watching it and obviously the first season is pretty good.
47:09
You kind of get the, you get the hooks in some good storylines
47:12
going on there and and. It was good.
47:16
So then I kind of. Got into it and then I think I
47:19
watched maybe half a season 2 and it was, it was maybe a
47:22
little bit slower, but I was still liking it.
47:26
But it was yeah, it kind of just stopped watching it.
47:30
But then the season 5 came out at their ad campaign eventually
47:36
got to me and I was like, oh, I kind of want to catch up.
47:38
There's only two, you know, 2 1/2 seasons.
47:41
So we started watching it again and finished out season 2.
47:44
I mean, the end of season 2 was just it was just beautiful.
47:48
The thing that I like about that show is you get all the
47:51
characters in that show, all the all the main characters and
47:55
they're all doing side quests. But at least it, you know, a
47:59
couple times so far, they all kind of come together and
48:02
discover things kind of at the same time and they all pop up in
48:05
the you know, it's TV timing, but it's kind of like a feel
48:08
good. Like I like when the gangs
48:09
together. I like when when the whole gang
48:12
is together. I like when Jonathan and Nancy
48:14
figure something out and they they eventually.
48:16
I like when the kids finally all come together and they meet up.
48:20
I like when Hopper and Winona Ryder forget her name.
48:25
They kind of team up and realize what's going on.
48:27
Like, no, this is a real thing, guys.
48:28
I like when they all come together and then when Elle
48:31
comes in and and does her thing, Oh my God, slam dunk.
48:36
It is just, it's just good vibes and.
48:40
Yeah, when? When we were.
48:41
Watching this last season, so the end of season 2, I kind of
48:44
forget the whole scheme of things.
48:45
Oh, it's growing, right. It's this is so we're going to
48:48
do spoilers for me. Just don't, don't comment and
48:51
spoil it for me. I'll spoil when I watch for
48:54
everything else, I guess. But no, this is a warning if
48:56
you, if you haven't watched through season 2, go back.
49:00
But yeah, season 2 when the virus is spreading right, when
49:04
it's growing underneath, when these puppies are getting out,
49:06
these little weird black fucking face puppies are getting out,
49:12
You know, it's all building up. It was, it was.
49:15
Oh, what is that guy's name with the hair, with the three
49:18
Hairspray guy? We, that guy, he started out the
49:21
worst. Now we love that guy.
49:23
I forget his name, God Dang it. But but yeah, that guy with the
49:27
hair, it's him. It's the kids.
49:30
They're in their battle bus and oh, was that the was that the
49:33
Oh, and they kind of fight off a couple of those little lizard
49:36
guys and then something calls them the way and they kind of
49:39
get saved, you know, like, Oh my God, this is getting crazy.
49:42
The next time when they bring the infected guy, I'm not good
49:47
with the names, but that infected kid, that kind of weird
49:50
kid, when he's infected, they get him in the room and they
49:55
figure out he's a spy, right? They figure out he's a spy and
49:59
they're saying he needs to not know where he is.
50:01
So they screen up his whole shed so he doesn't know where he is.
50:04
They tie him up on the screen and they wake him up with that
50:06
little gas because Winona had just stabbed him out with the in
50:10
the doctor's room with that, you know, with the sedative.
50:15
They wake him up and he starts freaking out.
50:16
Where am I? Where am I?
50:18
Oh my God, that's the guy was like, Oh my God, he's freaking
50:20
out. But finally he comes down.
50:21
They start talking to him to try to bring Will back out and he
50:26
doesn't know where they are. But then the phone rings and he
50:30
hears it's his house's phone and he knows where they are.
50:33
And so all of a sudden the, you know, this the guy, the the big
50:37
scary guy, I don't even know the bug, He starts sending his
50:41
puppies over to them. And you're thinking, last time
50:44
they got lucky with with all the kids like them getting scared
50:48
away. This time they're so screwed.
50:50
Like, what is going to happen? It's just, you know, it's over.
50:54
And then they get in the house. Everyone gets in the house.
50:56
And it's so funny, you know, Jonathan Pick or that guy with
51:00
the hair picks up the spike bat. They all got a little something.
51:03
Nancy's got the rifle. She can shoot it.
51:05
I can shoot it. And and Hopper's just that got
51:08
his Akit. And you're like, God, just get
51:10
behind Hopper and we'll let this guy work.
51:12
And and you hear the noise, you're like, Oh my God, it is
51:16
those things. And then all of a sudden you
51:18
hear that crap and then nothing. And you're like, Oh my God.
51:23
And right in that moment I was like she's back and wouldn't you
51:29
know the door lock clink door opens and your girl L shows up
51:36
nose bleeding. What's up gang?
51:39
Like the aw, that moment was so good.
51:41
So they gang up and then she goes and she closes the portal,
51:45
which was awesome. She goes and closes the portal,
51:47
which was huge and season 2 ended like it's perfect.
51:50
Everyone is feeling good, the crew, the gangs together.
51:53
We like all the good characters LS back.
51:56
What what you know, this is awesome.
51:58
Season 3 rolls around and we're I'm in the monkey business right
52:01
now. There's monkey business going on
52:04
at the mall. There's the Russian stuff going
52:06
on at the mall. Dustin come home from camp.
52:09
There's turmoil in between all of the parties, the teenagers,
52:13
they get in relationships to get in fights to break up all this
52:17
stuff. And and you're at first I was
52:21
kind of thinking like, I don't know if I really love the season
52:24
just because it's too much kind of fighting.
52:26
Hopper's kind of being annoying. Elle's kind of being an L and
52:29
Mike are kind of being annoying. Like there's a lot of kind of
52:31
annoying stuff going on. The crews kind of break it up.
52:33
Will dude wants to play Dungeons and Dragons so bad.
52:37
Nobody will play Dungeons and Dragons with this kid.
52:41
He got all this stuff going on. And but then you find out, oh,
52:46
there's some Russian. I don't know if the, the reactor
52:49
is in Russia or what, but you find out there's Russians the
52:53
the mall coding. So I'm at the point where the
52:56
hair guy, the New Girl who works at the the dairy scoop place and
53:00
then Dustin, they just crack the code and they're watching
53:03
Russians. You know, they're figuring
53:05
something out. Nancy and Jonathan with the
53:07
rats, they're figuring something out.
53:09
And then Winona with the magnets and the science guy.
53:13
We love the science guy. The science guy is the best they
53:17
they're figuring out. So they're all about to figure
53:19
out this thing's back. And I think Elle has already
53:21
figured out she's done some of the dream things and she's seen
53:24
so Billy. Everyone hates Billy.
53:29
I actually think this is a controversial, but I think
53:33
obviously we hate Billy. He's the worst, but I think he's
53:36
a good character. He plays the character really,
53:39
really well. I kind of compared it.
53:41
At first I was saying it's kind of like Joffrey in Game of
53:43
Thrones. You hate this guy, he's the
53:45
worst, but it's like, God, he's such a good villain.
53:48
But then I was thinking, I think it's more like Cersei, because
53:52
Joffrey really was just the absolute worst in Billy.
53:56
I can kind of see a little bit of he really like, you know,
54:01
when he spared that the the hot mom or whatever, that scene that
54:05
was too much in season 1. That was too much in season 2.
54:07
It was too much. But when he spares her and
54:09
doesn't kill her and walks away, it's kind of like a little it
54:12
was kind of like a nice thing, you know, that maybe you
54:15
overlook. And then when his, you know,
54:17
when his dad's like beating on him, you kind of feel for him in
54:20
that in that sense too. So I feel like he's more of like
54:23
a Cersei. He has a couple good moments,
54:25
but this guy just stinks. But he's infected, and Max and
54:29
Elle just found them at that place because Elle had the
54:31
visions. And they go into this house, and
54:34
they're all just looking great, eating dinner.
54:36
Oh, hey, this is my daughter, Max.
54:39
Maxine, What are you doing here? You're all soaking wet.
54:41
Oh, wow. Good to see you.
54:43
Yeah, everything's great. Mr. Wheeler, how are you doing?
54:46
Oh, of course. Of course.
54:47
And then Elle's like, no, I saw that girl and then the girls
54:51
there. Hi, Heather.
54:52
Hi. And then and then Ellen Max are
54:55
just kind of confused, like what is going on?
54:57
They walk out of the door and then immediately building that
55:00
girl just kill her parents. And it's like, oh man, the death
55:03
the devil's that that thing is taking people down.
55:07
And and so anyway, the score, Stranger Things is getting its
55:11
hooks in me. I want to get through season 3
55:14
and then get through season 4 so I can just watch Season 5.
55:17
I think the whole thing's out, right?
55:19
Is that how they do it on Netflix now?
55:21
But I think the whole thing's out.
55:25
But, but anyway, that's I'm, I'm in on stranger things.
55:31
So if you're watching Stranger Things season 5, hopefully it's
55:34
good. Hopefully it's good.
55:36
All right. Can I pull a quote out right
55:38
now? Oh God, I just, I feel like I
55:40
had a couple good quotes, but I I, oh, here we go.
55:48
We're just going to pull a quick quote here.
55:50
I remember this one. This one has doesn't really have
55:53
a ton to do with training. Maybe it's a ton to do running.
55:55
This wasn't a huge running heavy podcast, but we had some topics
55:59
that we had to discuss. I don't know, we had to do it.
56:03
Being rich is having lots of money.
56:06
Being wealthy is having lots of time.
56:10
If you are, no matter how old you are, it's always you're the
56:14
youngest you're going to be right now, right?
56:17
If you're just going through the motions of, of, of going to
56:21
work, doing your thing, you know, if you have a family, all
56:25
these things, you know, life is super busy.
56:28
I think it's easy to go through the motions and get kind of, you
56:32
know, maybe sometimes you lose track of priorities just because
56:36
things get busy and things get get tough.
56:40
Sometimes You're the youngest you're ever going to be right
56:43
now. We are time rich.
56:45
If you ask yourself in 20 years, if you could trade all of your
56:48
all of your money and all of your everything for the time
56:51
that you have right now, you would do it no questions asked.
56:55
So wherever you are in life, this is you got to go for it.
56:59
If you have a dream, you have to go now.
57:02
It's like you get one life. I heard you have to be running
57:08
as fast as you can at whatever the biggest dreams you have are
57:11
and what you want to do. You just have to go because the
57:15
second best time was 20 years ago.
57:17
The best time was 20 years ago, the second best time right now.
57:21
Don't let time escape you. I feel like time, time is weird.
57:26
When you're sitting at work, time goes by slow.
57:29
When you're doing things you want, time goes by fast.
57:31
When you're really, really busy and you're strung out, time goes
57:33
by fast. And I think you lose
57:36
perspective. Sometimes I feel like time is
57:38
going by really, really slow when I'm when I'm looking at
57:42
certain things in my life. But then other times I look at
57:45
certain things I'm like, wow, that was X amount of years ago.
57:48
And so I think the New Year's is always a great time to kind of
57:52
do that. It's a great time to kind of
57:54
reflect on new goals and stuff. But right now, if you have
57:58
goals, if you have big dreams, you have to be running as fast
58:01
as you can at it. That doesn't mean give up all
58:04
these things that you have going on.
58:05
Just make sure you're intentional with your time.
58:08
And if you're sitting on your phone for X amount of hours a
58:11
day and you're not where you want to be, you can only blame
58:15
yourself like you got to. And I'm I'm to blame.
58:17
Trust me, this phone is addicting.
58:19
You know, you get sucked back in and I try to pull out of it, but
58:23
it sucks you back in. But you got to keep your goals
58:26
and your priorities at the forefront and not let it get
58:28
washed away in life because if you do it just it's going to go
58:32
by quick and and we're time wealthy right now.
58:36
We got to use it. But all right, that's enough for
58:39
today. Like I said, we got a couple
58:41
guests coming on the podcast eventually.
58:44
I don't know exactly actually how it's going to work.
58:46
I was kind of, I have two mics, but yeah, I'm going to have to.
58:51
But eventually I wanted, I want to have other people on the
58:54
podcast. Yeah.
58:57
And and really, you know, start letting people we, we got to get
59:01
this Northeast trail running scene popping.
59:04
And if I can help that in any way, that's what I want to do.
59:07
So trying to cover all the races, trying to talk about all
59:11
the times winners a little bit slower.
59:13
I'm going to mix in some of this fun stuff because I just like
59:16
talking about this fun stuff. So I'm just going to keep doing
59:20
it. So hopefully some people enjoy
59:21
it. Maybe you don't, it's all good.
59:23
But if you're still listening, thank you so much.
59:27
I appreciate I've gotten a lot and it's obviously it's not like
59:31
a crazy amount, but I've gotten, you know, a dozen, maybe a
59:35
little, you know, some handfuls of comments from people like,
59:38
oh, you know, I enjoy, I enjoy listening.
59:40
I love listening to her. Keep going.
59:42
Like it's awesome. Good for you.
59:43
I like this. I like that every single one of
59:46
those comments has kept me going, I feel.
59:49
Yeah, I have lots of things to talk about next week.
59:51
I think it might be a decent episode for some things I want
59:54
to talk about running related in the whole kind of the whole
59:58
scheme of things. But yeah.
1:00:01
If, if anything nice that's been said to me has helped me keep
1:00:04
going and, and I really appreciate it.
1:00:07
Anyone listening. And I would just want to, like I
1:00:09
said, keep talking about Northeast Trail stuff.
1:00:11
There's lots of cool things going on.
1:00:14
And I want to talk about as much of that stuff as I possibly can
1:00:18
in a way that's going to help people, maybe entertain people a
1:00:21
little bit and, and, and get this thing going.
1:00:24
So yeah, lots of fun stuff coming in on the coming
1:00:28
episodes. And until then, yeah.
1:00:32
Get on some trails, run a. Little bit, get faster.
1:00:36
All right, We'll see you next time.
1:00:39
Peace. Yeah, I'm, I am, is.
1:00:47
This still recording the video is off, but yeah, sometimes on
1:00:50
these outros I say some weird things, but we we keeping it all
1:00:53
right, see you next week.