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Dems Speak for Hamas more than Hostages, RFK Baffles CNN, & Whining Hosts at NBC Oust Ronna McDaniel Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome. It is verdicuous center. Ted Cruz week in Review.
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  Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the big stories
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  Speaker 1: that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
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  Speaker 1: First up, where are the Democrats on the issue of
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  Speaker 1: hostages that are still being held by Hamas? And why
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  Speaker 1: are they not talking about many of them that are Americans.
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  Speaker 1: It is months into this conflict and yet no one
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  Speaker 1: seems to care. We're going to talk about that. Also,
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  Speaker 1: CNN thought they knew what RFK Junior was going to
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  Speaker 1: say about Donald Trump. It backfired in a big way,
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  Speaker 1: and you're not going to want to miss what he
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  Speaker 1: had to say about the biggest threat to democracy. It
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  Speaker 1: was Joe Biden. And finally NBC and MSNBC, they united
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  Speaker 1: the biggest hosts and the biggest talent to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that the former RNC chairwoman was basically fired before she
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  Speaker 1: ever got started in her new job. What's behind this?
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it all. It is the
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  Speaker 1: weekend Review, and it starts right now, Senat you and
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back in time because it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: how quick people forget about what happened on that day.
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  Speaker 1: I've met with the Israeli government independently. You've obviously met
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  Speaker 1: with them and representatives countless times. You watched a long
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  Speaker 1: version of the atrocities of that day. I have seen
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  Speaker 1: more than I wanted to, but I think it was
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  Speaker 1: important with the platform that I have to be an
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  Speaker 1: advocate for Israel to see it and witness it. And
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  Speaker 1: I saw it much more recently. I can't get those
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  Speaker 1: images out of my head, just how orchestrated, how barbaric,
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  Speaker 1: how evil the people were that were doing these things
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  Speaker 1: to As we talked about children to the elderly, the
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  Speaker 1: elderly is somewhat been overlooked. And I was watching some
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  Speaker 1: of this, and you watch these elderly people. Not only
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  Speaker 1: were they killing the grandfathers and great grandfathers in front
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  Speaker 1: of the great grandmothers and their kids and grandkids, but
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  Speaker 1: they were ripping them away and then taunting because they
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  Speaker 1: were going to go after the women. And this was
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  Speaker 1: all caught on video. And yet no one seems to
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  Speaker 1: be reminding people that those are the hostages that are
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  Speaker 1: still being held captive right now.
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  Speaker 2: They are And where is America? Where is the president?
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  Speaker 2: Where is a Democrat calling for the release of the
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  Speaker 2: American hostages. By the way, these are not many of
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  Speaker 2: them are Israelis, but there are multiple American hostages that
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  Speaker 2: this White House A wall doesn't even begin. It's worse
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  Speaker 2: than a wall. If they were silent, that would be disgraceful.
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  Speaker 2: But they're not silent. They're telling Israel stop trying to
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  Speaker 2: kill the terrorists. Instead, reward the terrorists and give them
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  Speaker 2: a nation state that is stronger than it was before
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  Speaker 2: and in a better position to wage war with Israel
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  Speaker 2: into murder innocent civilians going forward. That is a bizarre
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  Speaker 2: way to respond to a horrific atrocity carried out by.
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  Speaker 1: Hamas Jensaki, White House Press Secretary. She obviously and this
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  Speaker 1: is when you know it's a coordinated and orchestrated effort
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  Speaker 1: by talking heads, former White House pressingre terry, people in
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  Speaker 1: the media, people in the State Department, people in social
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  Speaker 1: media circles on the left, and celebrities and others. This
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  Speaker 1: is what she had to say on Israel on MSNBC.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and Jen, it's very easy for people to say
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  Speaker 3: the president should do a the president should do BC.
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  Speaker 3: There is also the very real possibility, and he say,
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  Speaker 3: understand this, if the president turns on met Yahoo to belief.
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  Speaker 3: The President says, we're going to stop sending weapons that
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  Speaker 3: met and Yahoo actually uses that to gain more power
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  Speaker 3: inside of Israel, saying, see, we have been abandoned even
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  Speaker 3: by the United States.
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  Speaker 4: We have to fight on That's right, Joe, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that's important too.
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  Speaker 5: Look, clearly, the strategy that the United States is implementing
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  Speaker 5: at this point is not working to change the behavior
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  Speaker 5: of Prime Minister net Yahoo, is not working to end
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  Speaker 5: the war. So obviously something has to change, and I
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  Speaker 5: think it's pretty clear they're discussing that, I think in
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  Speaker 5: the White House and I hope in the White House
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  Speaker 5: in this situation room at this point in time.
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  Speaker 4: The question is what that will be.
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  Speaker 5: And there's a number of allies of President Biden's in
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  Speaker 5: the Senate, Democratic senators and others who've been pretty outspoken
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  Speaker 5: about the need for conditioning AID at least as a consideration.
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  Speaker 5: That's obviously something that is being considered should be considered.
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  Speaker 5: The question is will that change the behavior and what
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  Speaker 5: additional leverage needs to be put on Prime Minister net
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  Speaker 5: Yahoo at this point in time to change the trajectory.
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  Speaker 5: But you're right, there's a calculation if you're discussing this,
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  Speaker 5: if you're the president, if you're the national security team,
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  Speaker 5: about what would prompt Prime Minister who to be more aggressive,
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  Speaker 5: what would prompt him to be less aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously nothing has worked to date.
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  Speaker 5: But it's not as easy as it sounds to make
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  Speaker 5: that determination.
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  Speaker 6: Center.
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  Speaker 1: Not one time did she say anything about putting pressure
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  Speaker 1: on Hamas the terrorist organization, or the Palestinian that are
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  Speaker 1: supporting the terrorists to stop them. They don't care about Israel,
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  Speaker 1: like Israel is the terrorist organization that started all this,
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  Speaker 1: They were the ones that were attacked.
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  Speaker 2: Look that they treat Israel as a client state. They
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  Speaker 2: treat Israel as the oppressors, and understand the base of
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  Speaker 2: their party believes Israel as their oppressors. And also get
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's some folks. There's a popular
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  Speaker 2: media narrative that, hey, Joe Biden is really pro Israel,
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  Speaker 2: but he's just got a political problem that his party
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  Speaker 2: is not. That's actually not accurate. Joe Biden has been
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  Speaker 2: undermining Israel for more than fifty years. Let's go back
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  Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eight two was a long
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  Speaker 2: time ago. Nineteen eighty two, Joe Biden was in the
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  Speaker 2: Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He had a private meeting with
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  Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Man Knock and Began and Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: decided to do what he's doing now, to threaten Israel,
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  Speaker 2: to threaten We're going to cut off usaid if Israel
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  Speaker 2: did not stop quote settlements in Judaea and Samaria. So
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  Speaker 2: it's frankly, the same thing he was saying in eighty
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  Speaker 2: two is what he's saying now. We don't like Israel.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have any right to settle the land of Israel,
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  Speaker 2: and if you do, we're going to cut you off.
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  Speaker 2: And here's what Began responded to. And this is one
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  Speaker 2: of the most famous responses by any Israeli prime minister,
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  Speaker 2: and it was in nineteen eighty two, so a long
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  Speaker 2: long time ago. Here's what Began said to Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Then a senator quote, don't threaten us with cutting off
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  Speaker 2: your aid. It will not work. I am not a
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  Speaker 2: Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with
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  Speaker 2: three thousand, seven hundred years of civilized history. Nobody came
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  Speaker 2: to our aid when we were dying in the gas
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  Speaker 2: chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we
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  Speaker 2: were striving to create our country. We paid for it,
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  Speaker 2: we fought for it, we died for it. We will
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  Speaker 2: stand by our principles, we will defend them, and when necessary,
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  Speaker 2: we will die for them again with or without your aid.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the Prime Minister of Israel said to Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden over forty years ago. You know what, the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister of Israel is still saying that to Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: But sadly, the entire Democrat Party is with Biden, undermining
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  Speaker 2: Israel and effectively forming a protective shield around the hamas Terrace,
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  Speaker 2: who committed the most unspeakable acts of modern times that
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  Speaker 2: we have seen.
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  Speaker 1: Senat our last question for you, and it's a really
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  Speaker 1: important one. If the Elizabeth Warrens the Democratic Party, and
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  Speaker 1: if the aocs and Rashida Leeves and others are able
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  Speaker 1: to flip the script the way it seems like we're
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  Speaker 1: going with the help of the media, what happens if,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, we don't give the a needed and the
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  Speaker 1: military weaponry needed that Israel is willing to buy from
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  Speaker 1: us because this president caves and blocks it. What happens
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  Speaker 1: to Israel?
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  Speaker 2: Then well, listen, the Biden administration and the Democrats in
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  Speaker 2: the Congress hope that Israel will give in, that they
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  Speaker 2: want to number one undermine Benjamin net Yahu. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not listen, I'm not being partisan in this. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: not intuiting or supposing this. Chuck Schumer said it on
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  Speaker 2: the Senate floor. He said he wants Netanyahu to be
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  Speaker 2: forced out of office. He wants Israel to have a new
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  Speaker 2: election and for them to allot to prime minister whose
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  Speaker 2: views he likes. And apparently the voters of Israel don't
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  Speaker 2: have a right to choose their own leader. That it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be the Democrats in Washington to choose that.
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  Speaker 2: But look the White House and the Congressional Democrats, they
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  Speaker 2: hope that by attacking Israel relentlessly, by threatening to cut
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  Speaker 2: off money, by undermining their international support, that Israel will
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  Speaker 2: get cold feet, that they will get weakknees, they will
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  Speaker 2: stop attacking Hamas and in particular Rafa. Look, the Hamas leadership,
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  Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists are all gathered in Rafa. Now, I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you I sat down doing a zoom call two
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago with Prime Minister Netanyahu. He joined all the
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  Speaker 2: Republican senators at our lunch. I can tell you two
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago he was unequivocal. He said, we will go
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  Speaker 2: to Rafa, we will enter Rafa, we will engage in
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  Speaker 2: a military campaign, and we will utterly eliminate Hamas, and
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  Speaker 2: if America is not there, we'll do it on our own.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest, what Netanyahu said it was almost word
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  Speaker 2: for word, web knock and Bagan said that has not changed.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons. Listen, as a tech I've explained.
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  Speaker 2: People have asked me a lot of times. They've said,
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  Speaker 2: how is it? How did it come to pass that
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  Speaker 2: a Cuban techxan Southern Baptist became the leading defender of
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  Speaker 2: Israel in the Senate. And there are lots of reasons
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  Speaker 2: for that, but I'll tell you one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: is the attitude of Israel. Israel is surrounded by nations
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  Speaker 2: that would drive it into the sea, that would murder
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  Speaker 2: every Israeli, every Jew if they could, and the only
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  Speaker 2: reason they don't is because Israel is strong enough to
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  Speaker 2: defeat them all. I got to say that is an
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  Speaker 2: incredibly Texan foreign policy. It is a national security policy.
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  Speaker 2: I have more than once wished that American foreign policy
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  Speaker 2: could have the clarity and strength that Israel's does, and
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  Speaker 2: so I'm not surprised that NATANYAHUO is saying the same
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  Speaker 2: thing monach and began said forty plus years later, which
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  Speaker 2: is Israel only survives because they could serve they are
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  Speaker 2: not dependent on the large Yes, the welfare from Democrats
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  Speaker 2: who are condescending to flick breadcrumbs from their table. But
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  Speaker 2: I really do wonder Ben, is there one Democrat in
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  Speaker 2: Congress with the guts to stand up to Biden and
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  Speaker 2: say this is wrong. We stand with Israel, we stand
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  Speaker 2: against Tamas, and all of the rest of this is garbage.
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  Speaker 2: If they have I haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Senator Finally,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about our RFK Junior. CNN decide
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  Speaker 1: to have him on, and they thought they were giving
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  Speaker 1: him a softball question that was going to be easy,
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna rip on Donald Trump tee it up
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  Speaker 1: from there because it didn't go the way they thought
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  Speaker 1: it was going to go at all.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. CNN tossed to RFK juniors a
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  Speaker 2: question that they thought RFK would say, Oh, yes, Trump
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  Speaker 2: is clearly the manifest threat to democracy and so you
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  Speaker 2: really should vote for Joe Biden instead. Well, RFK did
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  Speaker 2: not play along and listen to this exchange because CNN
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  Speaker 2: was astonished at what RFK had to say.
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  Speaker 4: I've done too many issues.
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  Speaker 7: While I admire his high minded ideals, his suggestion that
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  Speaker 7: there's no difference between mister Ware and mister Bush is irresponsible.
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  Speaker 7: A moment ago, you said, you essentially see Trump and
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  Speaker 7: Biden as.
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  Speaker 4: Saying different different issues.
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  Speaker 7: But do you really believe that when people talk about
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  Speaker 7: the threat of democracy that Trump poses, do you really
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  Speaker 7: think that that is an.
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  Speaker 8: Equal Listen, I can make the argument that President Biden
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  Speaker 8: is a much worse threat to democracy. And the reason
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  Speaker 8: for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history,
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  Speaker 8: the first president history has used the federal agencies to
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  Speaker 8: censor political speech. So the sensor his opponent. I you know,
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  Speaker 8: I can say that because I just want a case
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  Speaker 8: in the Federal Court of Appeals and now before the
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  Speaker 8: Supreme Court. It shows that he started censoring not just me,
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  Speaker 8: for thirty seven hours after he took the other office.
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  Speaker 8: He was censoring me. No president in the country has
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  Speaker 8: ever done that. The greatest threat democracy is not somebody
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  Speaker 8: who questions election returns, but a president of the United
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  Speaker 8: States who used the power of his office to force
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  Speaker 8: the social media company's Facebook, Instagram, Twitter to open a
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  Speaker 8: portal and give the access to that portal to the FBI,
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  Speaker 8: to the CIA, the IRS, the SISA, the NIH to
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  Speaker 8: censor his political critics. Becausident Biden for the first first
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  Speaker 8: president of history to use the secret his power over
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  Speaker 8: the Secret Service to deny Secret Service protection to one
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  Speaker 8: of his political opponents for political reasons. He's weaponizing the
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  Speaker 8: federal agency. Those are really critical.
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  Speaker 7: Threatsource tried to overturn a free and fair election.
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  Speaker 4: He tried to overturn one.
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  Speaker 7: Right is he still finding How is that not a
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  Speaker 7: threat to democracy?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. Him
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  Speaker 8: of it were trying to overthrow the election. Clearly is
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  Speaker 8: the threat democracy. But the question was who is the
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  Speaker 8: worse threat to democracy? And what I would say is,
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  Speaker 8: you know, I'm not going to answer that question, but
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  Speaker 8: I can argue that President Biden is because the First
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  Speaker 8: Amendment Aaron is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton
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  Speaker 8: and Madison said, we put the guarantee of freedom expression
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  Speaker 8: in the First Amendment because all of our other constitutional.
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  Speaker 4: Rights depend on it.
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  Speaker 8: If you have a government that can silence its opponent,
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  Speaker 8: it has license for any atrocity.
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  Speaker 7: So, just to be clear, you're saying you could make
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  Speaker 7: an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to democracy.
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  Speaker 1: Then you listen to that a senator and it's like
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  Speaker 1: they're like, well, I will whoa, this is not what
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  Speaker 1: you're supposed to say. This is not you were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to say Donald Trump orange Man's bad and a threat
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  Speaker 1: to democracy. Obviously you weren't supposed to say Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 1: actually a bigger threat. And by the way, explain exactly
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  Speaker 1: how he is.
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  Speaker 2: Warning Will Robinson warning Will Robinson, danger danger danger Aboart
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  Speaker 2: run away, run away. That's what CNN is saying. They're
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  Speaker 2: losing their minds. No, No, that that's not the message.
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  Speaker 2: The only message we allow on CNN is Trump bad,
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  Speaker 2: Trump bad, Trump bad. You're RFK jor your dad was RFK,
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  Speaker 2: your uncle was JFK. You're supposed to echo our message
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  Speaker 2: Trump orange man bad, orange man bad. Look I got
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  Speaker 2: to say listening to that. I agree with every single word.
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  Speaker 1: Robert F.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy Jr. Said right there. When it comes to a
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  Speaker 2: threat to democracy, number one, Joe Biden and for that matter,
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  Speaker 2: congressional Democrats are perfectly happy to use government power and
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  Speaker 2: big tech to censor you, to silence you, to prevent
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  Speaker 2: you from engaging in political speech, to prevent you from
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  Speaker 2: disagreeing with them. They want to use force to silence you. Secondly,
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  Speaker 2: he pointed out, Joe Biden is disgracefully denying Robert F.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior Secret Service protection that despite the fact that
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  Speaker 2: he is clearly pulling at the thresholds that would bear
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  Speaker 2: at that protection, that he is facing significant threats of
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  Speaker 2: political violence against him, and the tragic family history. His
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  Speaker 2: father was assassinated when he was running for president, his
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  Speaker 2: uncle was assassinated when he was president, and Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: and the Democrats are cynical enough that they're willing to
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  Speaker 2: risk well, okay, if our FK Junior gets assassinated, that's
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  Speaker 2: a risk Joe Biden's willing to take. It is disgraceful,
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  Speaker 2: and we've called that out on this podcast before that,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Joe Biden should give our FK Secret Service protection.
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  Speaker 2: That's following the law, that is consistent with the law,
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  Speaker 2: it's consistent with precedent, and the only reason not to
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  Speaker 2: is pure partisan politics. Let me say something else. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I have conversations with people all the time. I had
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  Speaker 2: conversations with people today where they make comments about, Gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried if Trump wins. He's an authoritarian, he's a dictator.
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried what he will do. And you know, my
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  Speaker 2: standard response is listen, I understand that. And sometimes Trump
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  Speaker 2: has rhetoric that can be used to suggest that. That
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  Speaker 2: being said, we don't have to hypothesize what Trump will
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  Speaker 2: do as president. He was president for four years and
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the time he was president, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't abuse his power. He followed the law. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at the policies he implemented, and I worked hand
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  Speaker 2: in hand with Donald Trump, the policies he implemented worked.
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  Speaker 2: We saw the lowest unemployment race in fifty years. We
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  Speaker 2: saw the lowest African American unemployment ever recorded. We saw
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  Speaker 2: the lowest Hispanic employment ever recorded. We saw peace and prosperity,
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  Speaker 2: we saw the border secured, we saw peace breaking out
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  Speaker 2: in the Middle East, and the Abraham Accords. All of
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  Speaker 2: that played out. And if you look at what Trump did,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't defy the law. He didn't ignore the law.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't issue lawless executive orders. He followed the law. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he demonstrated courage. He made decisions that were bold, but
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  Speaker 2: they were within the law. Contrast that to Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden number one is responsible for profoundly politicizing the
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  Speaker 2: Department of Justice of the FBI. Number two is responsible
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  Speaker 2: for the greatest assault on democracy we've ever seen, which
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  Speaker 2: is the four indictments of Donald Trump, the abuse of
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  Speaker 2: the legal process designed. Mind you, Trump is not the target,
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  Speaker 2: the voters of the target. They're terrified the voters will
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  Speaker 2: vote for Trump, and they're trying to prosecute for the
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  Speaker 2: first time in history, and the second time in history,
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  Speaker 2: and the third time in history, and the fourth time
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  Speaker 2: in history, a former president and a leading presidential candidate
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  Speaker 2: because they want to stop democracy from playing out. To
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  Speaker 2: be clear, also, these are the same Democrats that in Colorado,
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  Speaker 2: in Illinois and Maine threw Donald Trump off the ballot
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  Speaker 2: because you know, nothing says defending democracy like stopping the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: damn voters from voting. For the person you don't want
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: them to. This is Democrats. And let's be clear also,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden when it comes to being a dictator to
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: being lawless. Look at what he's doing on the southern border.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: He's utterly ignoring federal immigration law. He's releasing people into
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: this country. He's releasing criminals into this country. He's endangering
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: this country ten point four million illegal immigrants. It is lawless.
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  Speaker 2: No president has ever done this. Barack Obama didn't do this.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton didn't do this. Jimmy Carter didn't do this.
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  Speaker 2: Only Joe Biden is brazenly lawless. Let's be clear also
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: when it came to student loans, Joe Biden trying to
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: buy votes, tried to give away trillion dollars a trillion
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: dollars just in an effort to buy votes and win elections. Now,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a president can't give away a trillion dollars without Congress
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: passing legislation to do so. Joe Biden knows that the
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: lawyers and his administration know that they didn't care. They
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: wanted to lawlessly be political. And so, of course what
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: happened to the Supreme Court struck it down and said no,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the president doesn't have the ability to give away a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: trillion dollars just to buy votes. By the way, same
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: thing happened with COVID vaccine mandates, utterly lawless, abusive, trying
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to force people to get COVID vaccines. The president had
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: no authority to do it. Biden administration did so anyway,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: what happened. The Supreme Court struck it down, said this
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: is lawless, this is not the federal law. You look
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: at who actually has been lawless and dictatorial? And I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: agree with RFK, there's a powerful argument. The answer to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that is Joe Biden and not Donald Donald J. Trump,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And that makes CNN and every other corporate media entity
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: their heads explode.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: As before, if you want to hear the rest of
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: now the pod casts from earlier this week to hear
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the entire thing. I want to get back to the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: big story, number three of the week you may have missed. Finally, Senator,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about saying that happened this
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: last week, and it was a story that was I
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: was even shocked by it. The former RNC chairwoman was
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: hired by NBC News to become a commentator slash NBC News.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: She was hired, It came out, and what ended up
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: happening was virtually every name that was a host of
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a show, a big talent at NBC, including Met, the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: press said we're not going to work with her, she's
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a radical Trump extremist. January sixther We're not going to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: work with her. And they literally ripped her on air
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in a way that I didn't even think they would do,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: but they did it. And here's a montage of just
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: how bad.
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  Speaker 9: It was joined by former r and C chair Roni
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  Speaker 9: McDaniel in her first interview since stepping down as party chair.
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  Speaker 9: In full disclosure to our viewers, this interview was scheduled
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: weeks before it was announced that McDaniel would become a
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  Speaker 9: paid NBC News contributor. This will be a news interview
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: and I was not involved in her hiring.
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: I think our bosses owe you an apology for putting
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: you in this situation. And look, there's a reason why
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: there's a lot of journalists at NBC News uncomfortable with this,
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: because many of our professional dealings with the RNC over
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: the last six years have been met with catilighting, have
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: been met with characters fascination.
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  Speaker 3: We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: we were, we would have strongly objected to it.
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  Speaker 6: At NBC News, either wittingly or unwittingly, is teaching election
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: deniers that what they can do stretches well beyond appearing
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: on our air and interviews to pedal lies about the
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: sanctity and integrity of our elections so that they can
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: do that as one of us, as badge carrying employees of.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: NBC News, there is an easy way to avoid the
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: controversy NBC News has stumbled into.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Don't hire anyone close to the crimes.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: She literally backed an illegal scheme to steal an election
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: in the.
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  Speaker 4: State of Mission.
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  Speaker 5: That is the type of experience that Ronald McDaniel brings
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: to the table, and that experience does not get us
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: to a deeper understanding of anything in the public debate.
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: I want to associate myself with all my colleagues, both
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: at MSNBC and at NBC News who have voiced loud
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: and principled objections to our company putting on the payroll
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: someone who hasn't just attacked us as journalists, but someone
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: who is part of an ongoing project to get rid
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: of our system of government.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Senator that was clearly orchestrated by the talent. They were
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: not going to work with her, and they were going
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to ruin her career before it even started.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, NBC News sadly is a joke MSNBC News.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: It would be a joke if anyone watched it. But
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: it's just sort of a left wing primal scream and
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the utter hypocrisy of everyone else. So much of this
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: was started by Chuck Todd, and Chuck Todd had this
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: whole screed, this self righteous holier than the nou screed
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that he did on Meet the Press. Now, here's an
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: interesting bit you may not know. Do you know how
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Chuck Todd got his start? How was that as a
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: staffer in nineteen ninety two for the presidential campaign of
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat. So Chuck Todd was a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Democrat staffer on a presidential campaign. Mind, you're not just
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: in passing. But let's go back to Chuck Todd's predecessor,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Tim Russert. Tim Russer the gold standard of Meet the Press,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the gold standard of NBC News. Did you know what
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Tim Russer did before he went NBC.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out on a lem and say a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Democratic staffer.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: He worked for US Senator Daniel Patrick Moore, a Democrat
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: from New York. He served as special counsel to Daniel
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Patrick boynihan. He served as chief of staff to Daniel
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Patrick Boynihan, and then in nineteen eighty three he became
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a top aid to New York Governor Mario Cuomo, also
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: a Democrat. So he was a senior Democrat staffer over
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and over again for multiple Democrats, and then he went
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to NBC News. Let's fast forward George Stephanopolis. Where did
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: George Stephanopolis make his name as a senior press hack
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: for the Clinton White House? He was a political staffer
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: his entire life. By the way, he's the premier political
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: commentator at ABC now. And let's not forget Jensaki happily
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: ensconced at MSNBC. She was, of course Joe Biden's White
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: House press secretary. She stood up there and spin, baby spin,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: baby spin, and she got hired basically straight from the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: White House, where she continues to do the same job.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: She is still, as far as I'm concerned, the White
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: House Press secretary she's actually a much better press secretary,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: thank Karee John Pierre. Why because Kreen John Pierre is
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: not very good at her job. All she does is lie.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: To Sak's credit, she actually rarely directly lied. She just pivoted,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: she circled back, she spun, but she rarely made flat out,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: demonstrably provable falsehoods, whereas Karan John Pierre seems to do
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: so on an almost daily basis. But the entirety of that, understand,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: The position of NBC is, essentially, we cannot tolerate an
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: actual Republican who works for us. And by the way,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: there were a few folks who got online and they said, no, no, no,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. Because
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Nicole Wallace is on MSNBC and she was a Republican staffer,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and Joe Scarborough he was a Republican congressman. Well that's true.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: They were in a prior life Republicans. But both Nicole
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Wallace and Joe's Garber voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: So the position of NBC News is we cannot actually
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: hire anybody who voted for Donald Trump as long as
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: you vote for Democrats. You could have been a Republican
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: long in your distant life, but you must have abandoned
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: half of the country and decided they're evil deplorables. Those
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: are the only people we are willing to hire.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Welcome to MSNBC and NBC News as you described it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: And again I'm not a big person advocating or supporting,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like oh, sue somebody, but I hope she gets a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: big payday the way they treat her. And apparently she
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: found out she was fired through media reports, not even
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: from a phone call from NBC News. I hope that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: she gets a huge payout from this. She deserves every
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: dime after watching her colleagues run her name through the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: mud the way they did and treat her the way
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: they did so.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And let me make an important point on this. So
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: MSNBC has a niche as a hard left netwe that's
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: why they have so few viewers. But they're hard left.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you something. Why does NBC, I mean
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and and NBC pretends to actually be a real journalistic outfit.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Why do they have a subsidiary that is just a
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: hard left platform. By the way, they all decry Fox News,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: but MSNBC is hard left unapologetically so. And by the way,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: you know what the MS stands for Microsoft. Why exactly
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: is Microsoft funding hard left propaganda? Why is NBC? Why
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: are they okay with a network that has an explicit
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: ideological agenda. And one of the points to understand it
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: was NBC News that that hired Ron McDaniel. And and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make the case to you there is
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: no difference between MSNBC and NBC. They are one and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the same. NBC no longer pretends to be journalists. They
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: are advocate hits. They are in MSNBC. They are the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: left wing of the Democrat Party. There's a reason, by
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the way, in the last presidential cycle they were thrown
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: out of moderating because they're so hardcore and partisan. Now,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I guess somebody in their corporate leadership decided they wanted
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to at least have a nod of having somebody on
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the staff who had voted with half of the country.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But let me ask you, Ben So, you actually have
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: been a paid conservative at a left wing network at CNA,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: you were paid for a number of years. What was
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: that like then? And give us your perspectives from having
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: been in Rana's shoes. Although at a different time.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's funny that you asked us because I was doing
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: out Numbered, hosting out Numbered on I think it was
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Wednesday when this story broke and they came to me.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: They're like, look, you've got an insting perspective. I said, yeah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I was hired for My contract was extended when I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: was at sen and I was there total of seven years,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: but the last year was just and this is how
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: much it even changed. At CNN. They used to want
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: when they when Jeff Zucker took over a Grand Debate,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: they wanted conservatives to have people that they thought were
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: well representing them so that consertives wouldn't, you know, basically
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: immediately skip over the channel. One Stunnald Trump. One in
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: sixteen Wills came off at CNN. They hated him. They
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: hated and they yelled and screamed and tried to turn
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you into bigot, racist homophobes, NFOI everything they could and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: try to ruin your career when you were on because
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: they couldn't yell at Trump, but they could yell at
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you and you were supporting Trump or defending Trump. But
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: in the last year that I was there, they hired
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: me just to have my name on a piece of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: paper as it get out a free jail card. When
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: someone said you guys have no conservatives, and they would
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: say no, no, no, no no. Look over here, we have
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson. In my last year, I did two appearances
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: on CNN. Now that's absurd from a financial standpoint. If
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you were a financial person, why would you hire a
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: guy a salary and only have him come to work
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: two days out of three hundred and sixty five days
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: in a year. One of those two appearances was after
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the Hollywood Reporter Today's story about me being benched, and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: then they put me on the next day on a Saturday,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: for four minutes just to say no, se he's not benched.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: We just used him today and then never used me again.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And with Ronald McDowell, I have to say with her,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's part of what they wanted. They wanted
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to go into this election cycle saying, yes, we've got
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a token concern. This lady just ran the RNC. See
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: we're not biased. We've got her on the air as always.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal with my podcast,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and you can listen to my podcast every other day
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you're not listening to Verdict, or each day when you
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to have you as
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a listener to again the Ben Ferguson Podcasts, and we
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: will see you back here on Monday morning.