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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:05Welcome
- 0:05back,
- 0:05my
- 0:06friends,
- 0:06to
- 0:06another
- 0:06episode
- 0:07of
- 0:07Pearls
- 0:07and
- 0:08Prep.
- 0:08Npz.
- 0:09Here,
- 0:09your
- 0:09preceptor
- 0:10in
- 0:10your
- 0:10pocket,
- 0:11your
- 0:11go
- 0:11to
- 0:11place
- 0:11for
- 0:12pearls
- 0:12that
- 0:12prep
- 0:13you
- 0:13to
- 0:13practice.
- 0:14My
- 0:14friends,
- 0:14I'm
- 0:15going
- 0:15to
- 0:15go
- 0:15ahead
- 0:15and
- 0:16make
- 0:16a
- 0:16very
- 0:16bold
- 0:17claim.
- 0:17You
- 0:18ready
- 0:18for
- 0:18this
- 0:19very
- 0:19bold
- 0:19claim
- 0:20right
- 0:20here,
- 0:20right
- 0:21now.
- 0:22And
- 0:22that
- 0:22is
- 0:23we
- 0:23cannot
- 0:24understand
- 0:26medication
- 0:26management
- 0:26if
- 0:27we
- 0:27don't
- 0:27understand
- 0:28autoreceptors.
- 0:30I'm
- 0:30going
- 0:31to
- 0:31say
- 0:31it
- 0:31one
- 0:31more
- 0:31time,
- 0:32okay?
- 0:33We
- 0:34cannot
- 0:34understand
- 0:34medication
- 0:35management
- 0:35unless
- 0:36we
- 0:36understand
- 0:36autoreceptors.
- 0:38We
- 0:38can't
- 0:39understand
- 0:40the
- 0:41way
- 0:41these
- 0:42medications
- 0:42work,
- 0:43why
- 0:43they
- 0:43take
- 0:43time
- 0:44to
- 0:44work,
- 0:45why
- 0:45they
- 0:45sometimes
- 0:46don't
- 0:46work
- 0:46very
- 0:47well
- 0:47at
- 0:47all
- 0:47in
- 0:48specific
- 0:48people,
- 0:49why
- 0:49some
- 0:49medications
- 0:50work
- 0:50faster
- 0:50than
- 0:51others,
- 0:52why
- 0:53it's
- 0:53not
- 0:53as
- 0:53simple
- 0:53as
- 0:54just
- 0:54increasing
- 0:54neurotransmitters.
- 0:56Oh,
- 0:56no,
- 0:56no,
- 0:57no.
- 0:57When
- 0:57we
- 0:58demystify
- 0:58this
- 0:59through
- 1:00the
- 1:01autoreceptor
- 1:02discussion,
- 1:03we're
- 1:03going
- 1:03to
- 1:03have
- 1:04today,
- 1:04you're
- 1:04going
- 1:04to
- 1:04have
- 1:04a
- 1:04much
- 1:05better
- 1:05understanding
- 1:05of
- 1:06psychopharmacology,
- 1:07period.
- 1:07That
- 1:08includes
- 1:09SSRIs.
- 1:10It
- 1:10includes
- 1:10medications
- 1:11like
- 1:11Remeron
- 1:12and
- 1:12Velazidone,
- 1:13Trintellix,
- 1:15Clonidine,
- 1:16Guanfacine,
- 1:17you
- 1:17name
- 1:18it.
- 1:18These
- 1:19are
- 1:19very
- 1:19important
- 1:20concepts.
- 1:20And
- 1:21you
- 1:21will
- 1:22feel
- 1:22empowered
- 1:22by
- 1:22the
- 1:23end
- 1:23of
- 1:23this
- 1:23podcast
- 1:23that
- 1:24you
- 1:24know
- 1:24a
- 1:24little
- 1:24more
- 1:24about
- 1:24med
- 1:25management
- 1:25and
- 1:26you
- 1:26can
- 1:26explain
- 1:26things
- 1:27better
- 1:27to
- 1:27your
- 1:27patients.
- 1:29Now,
- 1:30what
- 1:30the
- 1:30heck
- 1:30is
- 1:30an
- 1:31autoreceptor?
- 1:32The.
- 1:33The
- 1:33word
- 1:33itself,
- 1:34the
- 1:34name
- 1:34itself
- 1:35is
- 1:35very
- 1:35off
- 1:35putting.
- 1:36It
- 1:37confused
- 1:37me
- 1:37a
- 1:37lot
- 1:37as
- 1:38a
- 1:38student.
- 1:39I
- 1:39won't
- 1:39go
- 1:39as
- 1:39far
- 1:40to
- 1:40say
- 1:40as
- 1:40it
- 1:41kept
- 1:41me
- 1:41up
- 1:41at
- 1:41night
- 1:42or
- 1:42that
- 1:42I
- 1:42had
- 1:43obsessional
- 1:43thoughts
- 1:43about
- 1:44it,
- 1:45but
- 1:45it
- 1:45was
- 1:46an
- 1:46annoying
- 1:47word
- 1:47that
- 1:47I
- 1:48felt
- 1:48I
- 1:48could
- 1:48never
- 1:49really
- 1:49grasp
- 1:49and
- 1:50understand.
- 1:50And
- 1:50at
- 1:51the
- 1:51end
- 1:51of
- 1:51the
- 1:51day,
- 1:51what
- 1:51makes
- 1:51it
- 1:52even
- 1:52more
- 1:52annoying
- 1:53is
- 1:53that
- 1:53it's
- 1:53really
- 1:54simple
- 1:54and
- 1:54it
- 1:54doesn't
- 1:54have
- 1:55to
- 1:55be
- 1:55annoying.
- 1:55Whoever
- 1:56named
- 1:57this
- 1:57receptor
- 1:58was
- 1:58not
- 1:59thinking
- 1:59very
- 1:59clearly
- 2:00and
- 2:01should
- 2:01have
- 2:01named
- 2:01it
- 2:01something
- 2:02different.
- 2:02And
- 2:02I
- 2:02think
- 2:03maybe
- 2:03we
- 2:04can
- 2:04all
- 2:04talk
- 2:04about
- 2:05that
- 2:05offline.
- 2:05What
- 2:06we
- 2:06would
- 2:06actually
- 2:06name
- 2:07this.
- 2:07I
- 2:08think
- 2:08just
- 2:08calling
- 2:08it
- 2:09like
- 2:09a
- 2:09thermoreceptor,
- 2:11as
- 2:11in
- 2:11thermostat,
- 2:12would
- 2:12have
- 2:12been
- 2:13way
- 2:13more
- 2:14intuitive
- 2:14and
- 2:15way
- 2:15more
- 2:15elegant.
- 2:16And
- 2:16it
- 2:16would've
- 2:16probably
- 2:17saved.
- 2:18I
- 2:18wouldn't.
- 2:18I
- 2:18won't
- 2:18go
- 2:18as
- 2:19far
- 2:19to
- 2:19say
- 2:19as
- 2:19it
- 2:19would
- 2:20have
- 2:20saved
- 2:20a
- 2:20lot
- 2:20of
- 2:20human
- 2:21life,
- 2:22because
- 2:22this
- 2:22is
- 2:22not
- 2:22a
- 2:22life
- 2:23or
- 2:23death
- 2:23situation.
- 2:25It's
- 2:25more
- 2:25semantics.
- 2:26But
- 2:26it
- 2:27would
- 2:27have
- 2:27definitely
- 2:28saved
- 2:29900
- 2:29million
- 2:30Google
- 2:30searches
- 2:31from
- 2:31students
- 2:32who
- 2:32have
- 2:32no
- 2:32clue
- 2:32what
- 2:33autoreceptors
- 2:34mean.
- 2:34And
- 2:34I
- 2:34was
- 2:35probably
- 2:35800
- 2:35million
- 2:36of
- 2:36those
- 2:36searches.
- 2:37So
- 2:38we
- 2:38should
- 2:38call
- 2:39them
- 2:39or
- 2:39think
- 2:39of
- 2:39them
- 2:40more
- 2:40as
- 2:40thermoreceptors.
- 2:41And
- 2:41the
- 2:42best
- 2:42way
- 2:42I
- 2:42can
- 2:42describe
- 2:42it
- 2:43is
- 2:43it's
- 2:43a
- 2:43receptor
- 2:44that
- 2:44sits
- 2:45in
- 2:46a
- 2:46neuron
- 2:47and
- 2:47it
- 2:47listens
- 2:47to
- 2:48that
- 2:48neuron
- 2:48and
- 2:49it
- 2:49compensates
- 2:50based
- 2:50on
- 2:50that
- 2:50neuron's
- 2:51activity.
- 2:51If
- 2:52that
- 2:52neuron,
- 2:52let's
- 2:53call
- 2:53a
- 2:53serotonin
- 2:54neuron,
- 2:54if,
- 2:55if
- 2:55that
- 2:55neuron
- 2:56is
- 2:56releasing
- 2:57too
- 2:57much
- 2:57serotonin,
- 2:58this
- 2:59autoreceptor,
- 3:00or
- 3:00as
- 3:00NPZ
- 3:01calls
- 3:01it,
- 3:01a
- 3:02thermoreceptor,
- 3:03this
- 3:03thermoreceptor
- 3:04is
- 3:05going
- 3:05to
- 3:06turn
- 3:06down
- 3:07the
- 3:07amount
- 3:08of
- 3:08serotonin
- 3:09release,
- 3:10it
- 3:10is
- 3:10going
- 3:11to
- 3:11compensate
- 3:11for
- 3:12that
- 3:12release
- 3:13of
- 3:13serotonin
- 3:14and
- 3:14it's
- 3:14going
- 3:15to
- 3:15lessen
- 3:16it.
- 3:16Sort
- 3:17of
- 3:17a
- 3:17homeostatic
- 3:18built
- 3:18in
- 3:19switch
- 3:20that
- 3:20keeps
- 3:21things
- 3:21even,
- 3:22right?
- 3:22And
- 3:23so
- 3:23that
- 3:23is
- 3:23my
- 3:24most
- 3:24elegant
- 3:24definition
- 3:25of
- 3:26an
- 3:26autoreceptor,
- 3:27as
- 3:27I
- 3:27deem
- 3:27thermoreceptor.
- 3:29And
- 3:29so
- 3:30it's
- 3:30homeostatic
- 3:31in
- 3:31a
- 3:31way.
- 3:31Okay.
- 3:32And
- 3:32I
- 3:32think
- 3:32that's
- 3:33really
- 3:33important.
- 3:34But
- 3:35what
- 3:35becomes
- 3:35more
- 3:36important
- 3:36is
- 3:36that
- 3:36like
- 3:37when
- 3:37you
- 3:37prescribe
- 3:37an
- 3:38SSRI
- 3:39now
- 3:39you're
- 3:39blocking
- 3:40the
- 3:40reuptake
- 3:41of
- 3:41serotonin,
- 3:42so
- 3:42you
- 3:42have
- 3:42so
- 3:42much
- 3:43more
- 3:43serotonin
- 3:44hanging
- 3:44out
- 3:44in
- 3:44the
- 3:44synapse,
- 3:45which
- 3:45is
- 3:45a
- 3:46great
- 3:46thing.
- 3:46And
- 3:46you
- 3:46might
- 3:46be
- 3:47so
- 3:47excited
- 3:47and
- 3:47you
- 3:47might
- 3:48say,
- 3:48oh
- 3:48my
- 3:48God,
- 3:48look,
- 3:48I'm
- 3:49going
- 3:49to
- 3:49do
- 3:49this,
- 3:49I'm
- 3:49going
- 3:49to
- 3:49prescribe
- 3:50Prozac,
- 3:50I'm
- 3:51going
- 3:51to
- 3:51prescribe
- 3:52Zoloft,
- 3:52and
- 3:53all
- 3:53of
- 3:53a
- 3:53sudden,
- 3:53more
- 3:54serotonin
- 3:54in
- 3:54the
- 3:55synapse.
- 3:55Let's
- 3:55have
- 3:55a
- 3:55party.
- 3:56But
- 3:56your
- 3:57autoreceptor
- 3:58is
- 3:58going.
- 4:00You
- 4:00didn't
- 4:01say
- 4:01the
- 4:01magic
- 4:01word.
- 4:03You
- 4:04didn't
- 4:04say
- 4:04the
- 4:04magic
- 4:04word.
- 4:05You
- 4:05remember
- 4:05that
- 4:05scene
- 4:06from
- 4:06Jurassic
- 4:06Park.
- 4:07Dennis
- 4:07Nedry,
- 4:08he
- 4:08shuts
- 4:08down
- 4:08the
- 4:08park
- 4:09and
- 4:09all
- 4:10the
- 4:10raptors
- 4:10get
- 4:10loose.
- 4:11Well,
- 4:11this
- 4:11is
- 4:12a
- 4:12little
- 4:12different,
- 4:12but
- 4:13it's
- 4:13also
- 4:13very
- 4:13similar
- 4:14in
- 4:15that
- 4:16at
- 4:16the
- 4:16end
- 4:17of
- 4:17the
- 4:17day,
- 4:18the
- 4:18autoreceptors,
- 4:19they're
- 4:19going,
- 4:19wait
- 4:20a
- 4:20minute,
- 4:20this
- 4:20is
- 4:20too
- 4:20much
- 4:21serotonin
- 4:21in
- 4:21the
- 4:22synapse.
- 4:22We
- 4:23need
- 4:23to
- 4:23cool
- 4:23things
- 4:23down.
- 4:24We
- 4:24need
- 4:24to
- 4:24actually
- 4:24decrease
- 4:25the
- 4:25amount
- 4:26of
- 4:26serotonin
- 4:27firing.
- 4:27This
- 4:28is
- 4:28excessive.
- 4:28This
- 4:29is
- 4:29too
- 4:29much.
- 4:30Party's
- 4:30over
- 4:31and
- 4:32too
- 4:32bad.
- 4:33Think
- 4:33of
- 4:33it
- 4:33almost
- 4:33as
- 4:33a
- 4:34bouncer.
- 4:34The
- 4:34club
- 4:35is
- 4:35getting
- 4:35too
- 4:36lit,
- 4:36you
- 4:36know,
- 4:36serotonin
- 4:37too
- 4:38fast,
- 4:38coming
- 4:39in
- 4:39too,
- 4:39too
- 4:39much,
- 4:40too
- 4:40quickly,
- 4:41too
- 4:41hard.
- 4:41Maybe
- 4:42it's
- 4:42like
- 4:42a
- 4:42long
- 4:43line
- 4:44into
- 4:44a
- 4:44nightclub
- 4:45and
- 4:45there's
- 4:45just
- 4:45too
- 4:46many
- 4:46partiers
- 4:47and
- 4:47to
- 4:47the
- 4:47point
- 4:47where
- 4:47the
- 4:48party's
- 4:48getting
- 4:48really
- 4:48chaotic
- 4:49and
- 4:49nervous
- 4:49and
- 4:50scary
- 4:50and.
- 4:51And
- 4:51so
- 4:52the
- 4:52bouncers
- 4:52come
- 4:52in
- 4:54akin
- 4:55to
- 4:55an
- 4:55autoreceptor
- 4:56and
- 4:56go,
- 4:56wait
- 4:56a
- 4:56minute.
- 4:56Let's
- 4:57turn
- 4:57this
- 4:57down.
- 4:57This
- 4:58is
- 4:58a
- 4:58little
- 4:58too
- 4:58intense.
- 4:59We
- 4:59went
- 4:59from,
- 5:00like,
- 5:00smoky
- 5:01jazz
- 5:01club
- 5:01chill,
- 5:03okay.
- 5:04To
- 5:05it's
- 5:05a
- 5:05fricking
- 5:06rave
- 5:06in
- 5:06here
- 5:07too
- 5:07quickly.
- 5:07And
- 5:07so
- 5:07the
- 5:08autoreceptor
- 5:08comes
- 5:09in
- 5:09and
- 5:09kind
- 5:09of
- 5:10like
- 5:10a
- 5:10brake
- 5:10pedal,
- 5:11like
- 5:12a.
- 5:12Like
- 5:12a
- 5:12bouncer
- 5:13who
- 5:13doesn't
- 5:14want
- 5:14a
- 5:14party
- 5:14to
- 5:15get
- 5:15too
- 5:15fun
- 5:16kind
- 5:16of
- 5:16comes
- 5:16in
- 5:16there
- 5:16and
- 5:17slows
- 5:18things
- 5:18down.
- 5:18Less
- 5:19neuron
- 5:19firing,
- 5:19less
- 5:20neurotransmitter
- 5:21release,
- 5:21okay?
- 5:22The
- 5:22brain
- 5:22does
- 5:22not
- 5:23like
- 5:23sudden
- 5:23changes.
- 5:24So
- 5:24these
- 5:24autoreceptors
- 5:25are
- 5:25one
- 5:26of
- 5:26the
- 5:26most
- 5:26most
- 5:27important
- 5:27concepts
- 5:28in
- 5:28all
- 5:28of
- 5:28psychiatry
- 5:29because
- 5:29they
- 5:29kind
- 5:30of
- 5:30explain
- 5:30why
- 5:30SSRIs
- 5:31take
- 5:31so
- 5:31much
- 5:32time,
- 5:32right?
- 5:32If
- 5:32your
- 5:32patients
- 5:33ever
- 5:33asking,
- 5:34why
- 5:34do
- 5:34I
- 5:34have
- 5:34to
- 5:35wait
- 5:35weeks
- 5:35at
- 5:35a
- 5:35time?
- 5:36Or
- 5:36if
- 5:36you
- 5:36wanted
- 5:36to
- 5:36proactively
- 5:37explain
- 5:38why
- 5:38this
- 5:39takes
- 5:39time,
- 5:40one
- 5:40of
- 5:40the
- 5:40reasons
- 5:41is
- 5:41you
- 5:41have
- 5:41an
- 5:42autoreceptor
- 5:42on
- 5:43these
- 5:43neurons
- 5:43that
- 5:43is
- 5:44trying
- 5:44to
- 5:44keep
- 5:44things
- 5:45nice
- 5:45and
- 5:45smooth
- 5:45and
- 5:46calm
- 5:46and
- 5:46mitigate
- 5:47the
- 5:47amount
- 5:47of
- 5:48neuron
- 5:48firing
- 5:49and
- 5:50neurotransmitter
- 5:51release,
- 5:52okay?
- 5:52But
- 5:52eventually
- 5:53the
- 5:53bouncers
- 5:53get
- 5:54kind
- 5:54of
- 5:54tired
- 5:54and
- 5:54kind
- 5:55of
- 5:55bored,
- 5:55and
- 5:55they're
- 5:55like,
- 5:55well,
- 5:57I'm
- 5:57kind
- 5:57of
- 5:57used
- 5:57to
- 5:58this
- 5:58volume
- 5:58now.
- 5:59Yeah,
- 5:59the
- 5:59party's
- 5:59been
- 6:00kind
- 6:00of
- 6:00crazy.
- 6:00Sure.
- 6:01I
- 6:01kind
- 6:01of
- 6:01shut
- 6:02down
- 6:02the
- 6:02worst
- 6:02of
- 6:02it,
- 6:03but
- 6:03I'm
- 6:03kind
- 6:04of
- 6:04used
- 6:04to
- 6:04all
- 6:04this
- 6:04noise
- 6:05now.
- 6:06So
- 6:06the
- 6:06bouncers
- 6:07get
- 6:07kind
- 6:07of
- 6:07tired,
- 6:08and,
- 6:08you
- 6:09know,
- 6:09their
- 6:09muscles
- 6:09are
- 6:09sore.
- 6:10There's
- 6:10only
- 6:10so
- 6:10much
- 6:11bouncing
- 6:11you
- 6:11can
- 6:11do
- 6:11of
- 6:12throwing
- 6:12people
- 6:12out
- 6:12of
- 6:12the
- 6:12club
- 6:13before
- 6:13you
- 6:13need
- 6:13a
- 6:13break.
- 6:14And
- 6:14so
- 6:14they
- 6:14get
- 6:14kind
- 6:15of
- 6:15lazy
- 6:15and
- 6:15tired,
- 6:16and
- 6:16they
- 6:16stop
- 6:17throwing
- 6:17people
- 6:17out
- 6:17of
- 6:18the
- 6:18club
- 6:18after
- 6:18a
- 6:18while.
- 6:19And
- 6:19lo
- 6:19and
- 6:19behold,
- 6:20here
- 6:20you
- 6:20have
- 6:20more
- 6:21people
- 6:21who
- 6:21are
- 6:22not
- 6:22getting
- 6:22bounced
- 6:23out
- 6:23of
- 6:23the
- 6:23club.
- 6:23That
- 6:23would
- 6:23be
- 6:24the
- 6:24serotonin
- 6:25reuptake
- 6:25inhibition,
- 6:26right?
- 6:26We're.
- 6:26We're
- 6:27prescribing
- 6:27an
- 6:28ssri,
- 6:28and
- 6:29less
- 6:29of
- 6:29that
- 6:30serotonin
- 6:30is
- 6:30being
- 6:31recycled
- 6:31back
- 6:31into
- 6:31the
- 6:32neuron.
- 6:32It's
- 6:32staying
- 6:32in
- 6:33the
- 6:33synapse.
- 6:33And.
- 6:34And
- 6:34that
- 6:34would
- 6:34be
- 6:34akin
- 6:35to
- 6:35people
- 6:36just
- 6:36partying
- 6:36on
- 6:37the
- 6:37dance
- 6:37floor.
- 6:37The
- 6:37bouncers
- 6:38aren't
- 6:38yanking
- 6:39them
- 6:39off
- 6:39anymore.
- 6:39They're
- 6:40kind
- 6:40of
- 6:40tired.
- 6:40They're
- 6:40used
- 6:40to
- 6:41the.
- 6:41The.
- 6:42The.
- 6:42The
- 6:42volume
- 6:43in
- 6:43the.
- 6:43In
- 6:43the
- 6:44whole
- 6:44place,
- 6:44and
- 6:44they
- 6:44kind
- 6:45of
- 6:45just
- 6:45let
- 6:45go.
- 6:46And
- 6:46so
- 6:46that's
- 6:46when
- 6:46the
- 6:47party
- 6:47actually
- 6:47starts.
- 6:48That's
- 6:48when
- 6:48you
- 6:49have
- 6:49serotonin
- 6:50in
- 6:50the
- 6:50synapse
- 6:50that
- 6:51has
- 6:51increased
- 6:51and
- 6:51you
- 6:52have
- 6:52meaningful
- 6:52therapeutic
- 6:53effects.
- 6:54And
- 6:54bam.
- 6:54Everybody's
- 6:55kind
- 6:55of
- 6:55happy,
- 6:56right?
- 6:56The
- 6:56bouncers
- 6:56kind
- 6:57of
- 6:57let
- 6:57loose,
- 6:57and
- 6:57they're
- 6:58cool,
- 6:58and
- 6:58the
- 6:59party
- 6:59Starts.
- 6:59That's
- 6:59the
- 7:00best
- 7:00way
- 7:00I
- 7:00can
- 7:00describe
- 7:01it.
- 7:01But
- 7:01that
- 7:01again
- 7:01is
- 7:02why
- 7:02you
- 7:02can
- 7:03have
- 7:03serotonin
- 7:04or
- 7:04SSRIs.
- 7:05I
- 7:05should
- 7:06say,
- 7:06take
- 7:06weeks.
- 7:07Okay.
- 7:08Um,
- 7:08which
- 7:08I
- 7:08find
- 7:08very
- 7:09interesting.
- 7:09Also,
- 7:10I'd
- 7:10like
- 7:10to
- 7:10make
- 7:11an
- 7:11important
- 7:11distinction
- 7:12that
- 7:12will
- 7:12help
- 7:12you
- 7:12think
- 7:12about
- 7:13your
- 7:13meds
- 7:13better
- 7:13and
- 7:13more
- 7:14clearly.
- 7:14We're,
- 7:15it's.
- 7:15Prozac
- 7:15is
- 7:16not
- 7:16a
- 7:16serotonin
- 7:17pill.
- 7:17It's
- 7:17not
- 7:17like
- 7:18vitamin
- 7:18D,
- 7:18where
- 7:18you
- 7:19take
- 7:19vitamin
- 7:19D
- 7:19and
- 7:19you
- 7:20have
- 7:20more
- 7:20vitamin
- 7:20D,
- 7:21right?
- 7:22This
- 7:22is
- 7:23serotonin.
- 7:23You're
- 7:24not
- 7:24giving
- 7:24someone
- 7:24serotonin.
- 7:25Not
- 7:25that
- 7:25I
- 7:25assumed
- 7:26any
- 7:26of
- 7:26you
- 7:26thought
- 7:27you
- 7:27were
- 7:27just
- 7:27handing
- 7:28someone
- 7:28a
- 7:28pill
- 7:28full
- 7:29of
- 7:29serotonin.
- 7:29But
- 7:30as
- 7:30you
- 7:30can
- 7:30see,
- 7:30the
- 7:30actual
- 7:31mechanism
- 7:31of
- 7:31action
- 7:32is
- 7:32a
- 7:32lot
- 7:32more
- 7:32elegant,
- 7:33it's
- 7:33a
- 7:33lot
- 7:33more
- 7:33intricate.
- 7:34We're
- 7:35blocking
- 7:35the
- 7:35reuptake
- 7:36of,
- 7:36of
- 7:37serotonin
- 7:37to
- 7:37keep
- 7:38it
- 7:38in
- 7:38the
- 7:38synapse
- 7:38longer.
- 7:39And
- 7:39of
- 7:40course
- 7:41that
- 7:41has
- 7:42a
- 7:42whole
- 7:43host
- 7:43of
- 7:43other
- 7:43effects
- 7:44because
- 7:45different
- 7:45receptors
- 7:46are
- 7:46getting
- 7:46activated
- 7:47when
- 7:48you
- 7:48have
- 7:48more
- 7:48serotonin
- 7:49in
- 7:49the
- 7:49synapse,
- 7:51right?
- 7:51And
- 7:52that
- 7:52causes
- 7:53nausea
- 7:53in
- 7:53some
- 7:54people,
- 7:54that
- 7:54makes
- 7:54them
- 7:54more
- 7:55anxious
- 7:55because
- 7:565ht2a
- 7:57is
- 7:57being
- 7:57activated.
- 7:58So
- 7:58people
- 7:58feel
- 7:58a
- 7:59little
- 7:59more
- 7:59ruminative
- 7:59and
- 7:59anxious.
- 8:00Maybe
- 8:00they
- 8:00have
- 8:01insomnia.
- 8:015
- 8:02HT2C
- 8:03is
- 8:03activated
- 8:03by,
- 8:04uh,
- 8:04the
- 8:05increased
- 8:05serotonin
- 8:06in
- 8:06the
- 8:06synapse,
- 8:06which
- 8:06can
- 8:07make
- 8:07people
- 8:07have
- 8:07less
- 8:07of
- 8:07a
- 8:08libido
- 8:09or
- 8:09less
- 8:09of
- 8:09a
- 8:10sexual
- 8:10desire.
- 8:10That's
- 8:115ht
- 8:112c.
- 8:12Right?
- 8:13And
- 8:13again,
- 8:14the
- 8:14autoreceptor's
- 8:15kind
- 8:15of
- 8:16doing
- 8:16its
- 8:16thing
- 8:16and
- 8:17it's
- 8:17reversing
- 8:18a
- 8:18lot
- 8:18of
- 8:18your
- 8:19progress,
- 8:19cuz
- 8:19it's
- 8:20freaked
- 8:20out
- 8:20that
- 8:20there's
- 8:21too
- 8:21much
- 8:21serotonin,
- 8:22the
- 8:22party's
- 8:22getting
- 8:22too
- 8:23hot,
- 8:23and
- 8:23so
- 8:23they're
- 8:24yanking
- 8:24people
- 8:24out
- 8:24of
- 8:25the
- 8:25club.
- 8:25And
- 8:25that's
- 8:25why
- 8:25you're
- 8:25not
- 8:26having
- 8:26a
- 8:26lot
- 8:26of
- 8:26fun
- 8:27until
- 8:27those
- 8:27bouncers
- 8:28get
- 8:28tired
- 8:28four
- 8:28to
- 8:29six
- 8:29weeks
- 8:29later.
- 8:30And
- 8:30at
- 8:30that
- 8:30point
- 8:30you
- 8:31need
- 8:31to
- 8:31ask
- 8:31yourself,
- 8:31are
- 8:32we
- 8:32doing
- 8:32what
- 8:32we
- 8:32need
- 8:32to
- 8:33do?
- 8:33Is
- 8:33this
- 8:33good?
- 8:35And
- 8:35some
- 8:35patients
- 8:35might
- 8:36say
- 8:36no,
- 8:37they
- 8:37don't
- 8:37feel
- 8:37anything,
- 8:38they
- 8:38don't
- 8:38feel
- 8:38good.
- 8:39Things
- 8:39aren't
- 8:39working
- 8:40out
- 8:40on
- 8:41the
- 8:41Prozac
- 8:41or
- 8:41the
- 8:42Zoloft.
- 8:42And
- 8:42genetically
- 8:43those
- 8:43folks
- 8:43could
- 8:44actually
- 8:44have
- 8:44really
- 8:44strong
- 8:45bouncers,
- 8:45right?
- 8:46Maybe
- 8:46they
- 8:46have
- 8:4620
- 8:47bouncers
- 8:47instead
- 8:48of
- 8:48five
- 8:48bouncers.
- 8:49And
- 8:49those
- 8:49bouncers
- 8:50have
- 8:50extra
- 8:50big
- 8:50muscles,
- 8:51right?
- 8:51These
- 8:51are
- 8:51kind
- 8:51of
- 8:52the
- 8:52genetic
- 8:52precursors
- 8:53that.
- 8:59Mitigate
- 8:59the
- 8:59amount
- 9:00of
- 9:01serotonin
- 9:02even
- 9:02more
- 9:03aggressively
- 9:03because
- 9:03there's
- 9:04more
- 9:04of
- 9:05them,
- 9:05more
- 9:05autoreceptors
- 9:06or
- 9:06they're
- 9:06more
- 9:06sensitive,
- 9:07kind
- 9:07of
- 9:07like
- 9:08a
- 9:08super
- 9:08sensitive
- 9:08smoke
- 9:09alarm
- 9:09that
- 9:09goes
- 9:09off
- 9:10and
- 9:10shuts
- 9:10down
- 9:11that
- 9:11party
- 9:11even
- 9:11harder
- 9:12more
- 9:12often.
- 9:13That,
- 9:13of
- 9:13course,
- 9:13can
- 9:13happen
- 9:14genetically.
- 9:15So,
- 9:15you
- 9:16know,
- 9:16that's
- 9:16a
- 9:16big
- 9:16deal
- 9:17because
- 9:17that
- 9:17might
- 9:17explain
- 9:18why
- 9:18some
- 9:18of
- 9:18your
- 9:18patients
- 9:19are
- 9:19not
- 9:20getting
- 9:20a
- 9:21lot
- 9:21better.
- 9:22Okay.
- 9:22They
- 9:22have
- 9:23increased
- 9:23autoreceptor
- 9:24expression.
- 9:24Okay.
- 10:20That's
- 10:20stronger
- 10:21serotonin
- 10:22inhibition
- 10:22across
- 10:23the
- 10:23board,
- 10:23reduced
- 10:23serotonin
- 10:24neuron
- 10:25firing.
- 10:25Okay.
- 10:26Some
- 10:26people
- 10:26are
- 10:26born
- 10:27with
- 10:27that
- 10:27extreme
- 10:27sensitivity
- 10:28or
- 10:28those
- 10:28extreme
- 10:29smoke
- 10:29detectors
- 10:30or
- 10:30the
- 10:31extremely
- 10:31strong
- 10:32bouncers
- 10:33that
- 10:33have
- 10:33a
- 10:33very
- 10:33low
- 10:34tolerance
- 10:34for
- 10:34extra
- 10:35noise.
- 10:35Okay?
- 10:36So
- 10:37even
- 10:37a
- 10:37small
- 10:37amount
- 10:38of
- 10:38serotonin
- 10:39can.
- 10:39Can
- 10:40make
- 10:40that
- 10:40bouncer
- 10:41just.
- 10:41Just
- 10:42kick
- 10:42down
- 10:42the
- 10:42door
- 10:43and
- 10:43shut
- 10:44everything
- 10:44down.
- 10:44And
- 10:45they
- 10:45might
- 10:45respond
- 10:45poorly
- 10:46to
- 10:46SSRIs.
- 10:47They
- 10:47might
- 10:47need
- 10:47longer
- 10:48treatment.
- 10:48They
- 10:48might
- 10:49benefit
- 10:49from
- 10:49non
- 10:49traditional
- 10:50strategies
- 10:51down
- 10:51the
- 10:52road
- 10:52if
- 10:52you
- 10:52find
- 10:52their
- 10:52treatment
- 10:53resistant.
- 10:53Now
- 10:53we're
- 10:54talking
- 10:54ketamine,
- 10:54which
- 10:54sort
- 10:55of
- 10:55bypasses
- 10:55all
- 10:55of
- 10:56this
- 10:56entirely
- 10:57through
- 10:57a
- 10:57whole
- 10:57different
- 10:57mechanism.
- 10:58We'll
- 10:58talk
- 10:58about
- 10:59later.
- 10:59We've
- 10:59touched
- 11:00on
- 11:00it
- 11:00in
- 11:00previous
- 11:00episodes.
- 11:01So,
- 11:02yes,
- 11:02we
- 11:03have
- 11:03seen
- 11:03in
- 11:03animal
- 11:04models
- 11:04that
- 11:05some
- 11:05people
- 11:05have
- 11:06more
- 11:06of
- 11:06those
- 11:06serotonin
- 11:07autoreceptors.
- 11:08They
- 11:08have
- 11:08excessive
- 11:08amounts
- 11:09to
- 11:09too
- 11:09many
- 11:09bouncers.
- 11:10Well,
- 11:10you're
- 11:10not
- 11:10going
- 11:10to
- 11:11have
- 11:11a
- 11:11really
- 11:11fun
- 11:11nightclub
- 11:12when
- 11:12you
- 11:12have
- 11:12too
- 11:13many
- 11:13bouncers.
- 11:13That's
- 11:14not
- 11:14going
- 11:14to
- 11:14be
- 11:14fun,
- 11:14okay.
- 11:15And
- 11:15so
- 11:15they
- 11:15tend
- 11:16to
- 11:16have
- 11:16more
- 11:16SSRI
- 11:17resistance,
- 11:17more
- 11:17depressive
- 11:18like
- 11:19behavior.
- 11:19Okay,
- 11:20so
- 11:21that
- 11:21explains
- 11:22a
- 11:22lot
- 11:22of
- 11:23this,
- 11:23right?
- 11:23We
- 11:24talked
- 11:24about
- 11:24why,
- 11:24how
- 11:25SSRIs
- 11:25take
- 11:26some
- 11:26time
- 11:26for
- 11:26a
- 11:26reason.
- 11:27Because
- 11:27this
- 11:27is
- 11:27sort
- 11:27of
- 11:27this
- 11:28homeostatic.
- 11:28Whoa,
- 11:29whoa,
- 11:29whoa.
- 11:29Too
- 11:29much
- 11:29serotonin.
- 11:30Let's
- 11:31not
- 11:31do
- 11:31this
- 11:32kind
- 11:32of
- 11:32thing
- 11:33now.
- 11:34This
- 11:34is
- 11:34where
- 11:34things
- 11:35get
- 11:35interesting.
- 11:35And
- 11:36you
- 11:36all
- 11:36know
- 11:36how
- 11:36much
- 11:37I
- 11:37absolutely
- 11:38love.
- 11:40We
- 11:40won't
- 11:40do
- 11:40a
- 11:40super
- 11:41deep
- 11:41dive
- 11:41into
- 11:41how
- 11:41great
- 11:42Remeron
- 11:42can
- 11:42be
- 11:43for
- 11:43the
- 11:43right
- 11:43patient.
- 11:44But
- 11:44Remeron
- 11:45is
- 11:45really
- 11:45interesting
- 11:46because
- 11:47what
- 11:47it
- 11:47does
- 11:48here
- 11:48is
- 11:48it
- 11:48rips
- 11:49that
- 11:49autoreceptor
- 11:50out
- 11:51directly,
- 11:51okay?
- 11:52It
- 11:52does
- 11:53not
- 11:53block
- 11:54the
- 11:54reuptake
- 11:55of
- 11:55serotonin
- 11:55like
- 11:56Prozac,
- 11:56Zoloft,
- 11:57Lexapro
- 11:57or
- 11:57Celexa.
- 11:58No,
- 11:59no,
- 11:59no.
- 11:59It
- 12:00actually
- 12:01directly
- 12:01blocks
- 12:02presynaptic
- 12:03alpha
- 12:032
- 12:04adrenergic
- 12:04autoreceptors.
- 12:06It
- 12:06is
- 12:06exactly
- 12:06like
- 12:07yanking
- 12:08the
- 12:08smoke
- 12:08detector
- 12:09out
- 12:09of
- 12:09the.
- 12:09Out
- 12:09of
- 12:10the
- 12:10wall
- 12:10completely
- 12:10so
- 12:11it
- 12:11never
- 12:11gets
- 12:11to
- 12:12beep
- 12:12or
- 12:12alarm.
- 12:13It's
- 12:13like
- 12:14yanking
- 12:14the
- 12:14bouncers
- 12:15out
- 12:15and
- 12:15say,
- 12:15go
- 12:15home,
- 12:16you're
- 12:16fired
- 12:16without
- 12:17pay.
- 12:17Never
- 12:17come
- 12:17back
- 12:18here.
- 12:18And
- 12:19so
- 12:19you
- 12:19have
- 12:20less
- 12:20inhibition.
- 12:21So
- 12:21when
- 12:21the
- 12:21serotonin
- 12:22is
- 12:22normally
- 12:23expressed
- 12:24and
- 12:24released
- 12:24in
- 12:24your
- 12:25neurons,
- 12:25just
- 12:26normal
- 12:26serotonergic
- 12:27activity,
- 12:28it's
- 12:28no
- 12:28longer
- 12:28being
- 12:29inhibited.
- 12:29By
- 12:30that
- 12:30break
- 12:30by
- 12:31the
- 12:31autoreceptor.
- 12:32And
- 12:32mirtazapine
- 12:33or
- 12:33Remeron
- 12:34directly
- 12:34blocks
- 12:35that
- 12:35presynaptic
- 12:36alpha
- 12:362
- 12:36adrenergic
- 12:37autoreceptor.
- 12:38And
- 12:38so
- 12:39instead
- 12:39of
- 12:39waiting
- 12:40weeks
- 12:40for
- 12:41everything
- 12:41to
- 12:41desensitize
- 12:42like
- 12:42you
- 12:42did
- 12:42with
- 12:42SSRIs
- 12:43and
- 12:44the
- 12:44autoreceptor
- 12:45that
- 12:45was
- 12:45there,
- 12:45well,
- 12:45we
- 12:45just.
- 12:46We
- 12:46just
- 12:46yanked
- 12:47the
- 12:47smoke
- 12:47detector
- 12:48out,
- 12:48so
- 12:48less
- 12:49inhibition.
- 12:50And
- 12:50that
- 12:50is
- 12:50theoretically
- 12:51why
- 12:52Remeron
- 12:53may
- 12:53work
- 12:53a
- 12:53little
- 12:54bit
- 12:54faster.
- 12:55Um,
- 12:55it.
- 12:55It's.
- 12:55It's
- 12:56pretty
- 12:56fascinating,
- 12:56right?
- 12:57So,
- 12:57again,
- 12:57please
- 12:58appreciate
- 12:58the
- 12:58fact
- 12:58that
- 12:59Remeron
- 13:00does
- 13:00not
- 13:00add
- 13:01neurotransmitters
- 13:02into
- 13:02the
- 13:02brain.
- 13:02You're
- 13:03not
- 13:03giving
- 13:03someone
- 13:03a
- 13:03pill
- 13:04with
- 13:04neurotransmitters
- 13:05in
- 13:05it,
- 13:05okay?
- 13:06That
- 13:06is
- 13:07fundamentally
- 13:07not
- 13:07at
- 13:08all
- 13:08what
- 13:08we
- 13:08do.
- 13:09And
- 13:09instead,
- 13:10it
- 13:10removes
- 13:11the
- 13:11inhibitory
- 13:12signals
- 13:12that
- 13:12normally
- 13:13suppress
- 13:13neurotransmitter
- 13:15release.
- 13:15And
- 13:15you
- 13:15can
- 13:15imagine,
- 13:16as
- 13:16you
- 13:16know
- 13:16about
- 13:16Remeron,
- 13:17its
- 13:17affinity
- 13:18for
- 13:18norepinephrine,
- 13:19its
- 13:19affinity
- 13:20for
- 13:20serotonin.
- 13:21So,
- 13:21yes,
- 13:21there
- 13:21are
- 13:21actual
- 13:22autoreceptors
- 13:23on
- 13:23norepinephrine
- 13:24neurons.
- 13:25And
- 13:26normally
- 13:27those
- 13:27autoreceptors
- 13:28tell
- 13:28those
- 13:28norepinephrine
- 13:29neurons,
- 13:30hey,
- 13:30enough
- 13:30norepinephrine.
- 13:31Slow
- 13:32down.
- 13:32But
- 13:33Remeron,
- 13:33again,
- 13:33yanks.
- 13:34That
- 13:34blocks
- 13:35these
- 13:35receptors,
- 13:35essentially
- 13:36yanks
- 13:36out.
- 13:36The
- 13:36bouncer
- 13:37says,
- 13:37stop
- 13:38cooling
- 13:38off
- 13:38this
- 13:38party.
- 13:39And
- 13:39so
- 13:39all
- 13:40the
- 13:40people
- 13:40in
- 13:40line
- 13:40that
- 13:41are
- 13:41due
- 13:41to
- 13:41get
- 13:42into
- 13:42the
- 13:42club,
- 13:42they
- 13:42get
- 13:42into
- 13:43the
- 13:43club.
- 13:43They're
- 13:43not
- 13:43being
- 13:44bounced
- 13:44out,
- 13:45right?
- 13:45You
- 13:45didn't
- 13:46add
- 13:46people
- 13:46in
- 13:47the
- 13:47club.
- 13:47Like,
- 13:48in
- 13:48other
- 13:48words,
- 13:48you're
- 13:48not
- 13:48adding
- 13:49serotonin
- 13:49and
- 13:49norepinephrine
- 13:50artificially
- 13:51through
- 13:51your
- 13:51pillow.
- 13:52You're
- 13:52actually
- 13:53just
- 13:53allowing
- 13:54the
- 13:54people
- 13:54in
- 13:54line
- 13:55to
- 13:55get
- 13:55there
- 13:55and
- 13:55party
- 13:56and
- 13:56whip
- 13:57out
- 13:57their
- 13:57glow
- 13:57sticks
- 13:58and
- 13:58have
- 13:59a
- 13:59great
- 13:59time
- 14:00and
- 14:00not
- 14:01yank
- 14:01them
- 14:01out.
- 14:01Right?
- 14:02So
- 14:02you're
- 14:02removing
- 14:02the
- 14:03inhibition,
- 14:03the
- 14:03big
- 14:04muscly
- 14:04bouncers.
- 14:05And
- 14:05I
- 14:05think
- 14:05that's
- 14:05a
- 14:06really
- 14:06cool
- 14:06thing.
- 14:07Now,
- 14:08not
- 14:08to
- 14:08get
- 14:08too
- 14:08nitty
- 14:09gritty,
- 14:09but
- 14:10those
- 14:11same
- 14:11norepinephrine
- 14:12neurons
- 14:12that
- 14:13you're
- 14:13targeting
- 14:13with
- 14:13Rembron
- 14:14can
- 14:14also
- 14:14suppress
- 14:15serotonin
- 14:15neurons
- 14:16through
- 14:17those
- 14:17same
- 14:18autoreceptors.
- 14:19They're
- 14:19heteroreceptors.
- 14:20Okay?
- 14:20One
- 14:21mnemonic
- 14:21for
- 14:21me
- 14:21is
- 14:22I
- 14:22think
- 14:22heterosexual.
- 14:23Okay?
- 14:23I
- 14:23think
- 14:24almost,
- 14:24maybe
- 14:24even
- 14:24I'll
- 14:25think
- 14:25bisexual.
- 14:26Right?
- 14:27And
- 14:27what.
- 14:28What
- 14:28I
- 14:28mean
- 14:28by
- 14:28that
- 14:28is
- 14:29that
- 14:29these
- 14:29norepinephrine
- 14:30neurons,
- 14:31when
- 14:31we're
- 14:31talk
- 14:31heteroreceptors,
- 14:32we're
- 14:32talking
- 14:33about
- 14:33the
- 14:33fact
- 14:34that
- 14:34they
- 14:34have
- 14:34influence
- 14:35over
- 14:35more
- 14:35than
- 14:36just
- 14:36the
- 14:36ne.
- 14:36Norepinephrine
- 14:37receptor,
- 14:37and
- 14:38it's
- 14:38also
- 14:38the
- 14:38Serotonin
- 14:39receptors.
- 14:41So
- 14:41again,
- 14:41we're
- 14:42not
- 14:42blocking
- 14:42sirt.
- 14:43We're
- 14:43also
- 14:44doing
- 14:44the
- 14:44same
- 14:44thing
- 14:45with
- 14:46Remeron
- 14:46as
- 14:46it
- 14:46relates
- 14:47to
- 14:47serotonin
- 14:48neurons,
- 14:48okay?
- 14:49Where
- 14:49we're
- 14:50stopping
- 14:50the
- 14:50inhibition,
- 14:51we're
- 14:51yanking
- 14:52the
- 14:52bouncers
- 14:53out
- 14:53of
- 14:53the
- 14:53nightclub,
- 14:54saying,
- 14:54hey,
- 14:55now
- 14:55you
- 14:55get
- 14:55to
- 14:55party.
- 14:55Now
- 14:56you
- 14:56get
- 14:56to
- 14:56do
- 14:56your
- 14:56thing,
- 14:57okay?
- 14:58And
- 14:58that's
- 14:58really
- 14:58cool.
- 14:59So
- 14:59I
- 15:00really
- 15:00love
- 15:00that.
- 15:01And
- 15:01it's
- 15:02one
- 15:02of
- 15:02the
- 15:02many
- 15:02reasons
- 15:03I
- 15:03really
- 15:03dig
- 15:03Remeron.
- 15:05Now
- 15:05you
- 15:05have
- 15:05this
- 15:06other
- 15:06mechanism
- 15:07that's
- 15:07pretty
- 15:07elegant
- 15:08and
- 15:08pretty
- 15:09neat.
- 15:09You
- 15:09have
- 15:09this
- 15:10with
- 15:10velazadone,
- 15:12okay?
- 15:12You
- 15:13have
- 15:13this
- 15:13with
- 15:15trintellics
- 15:15where
- 15:16you
- 15:16have
- 15:16a
- 15:17built
- 15:17in
- 15:17autoreceptor
- 15:18modulation,
- 15:19okay?
- 15:20And
- 15:20so
- 15:21they
- 15:21do
- 15:21something
- 15:21that's
- 15:22a
- 15:22little.
- 15:24It's.
- 15:25It's
- 15:25a
- 15:25little
- 15:25more
- 15:25simple
- 15:26than
- 15:26SSRI
- 15:27blockade,
- 15:27okay?
- 15:29Yes,
- 15:29Velazidone
- 15:31blocks
- 15:31the
- 15:31reuptake
- 15:32of
- 15:32serotonin,
- 15:33but
- 15:33it
- 15:33also
- 15:33partially
- 15:34agonizes
- 15:35the
- 15:355ht1a
- 15:36receptor,
- 15:37okay?
- 15:38That
- 15:385ht1a
- 15:39presynaptic
- 15:40receptor
- 15:41is
- 15:41the
- 15:42autoreceptor
- 15:42we're
- 15:43talking
- 15:43about
- 15:43here
- 15:43on
- 15:43serotonergic
- 15:44neurons,
- 15:44okay?
- 15:45So
- 15:46instead
- 15:46of
- 15:46it
- 15:46being
- 15:47fully
- 15:47activated,
- 15:48like
- 15:48when
- 15:48we
- 15:48gave
- 15:49Prozac,
- 15:49when
- 15:50we
- 15:50gave
- 15:50Zoloft,
- 15:51right?
- 15:51And
- 15:51the
- 15:51neurons
- 15:52freaking
- 15:52out
- 15:52and
- 15:52the
- 15:53autoreceptor,
- 15:54or
- 15:54as
- 15:54I
- 15:54call
- 15:55it,
- 15:55the
- 15:55thermoreceptor,
- 15:56instead
- 15:56of
- 15:56it
- 15:57freaking
- 15:57out
- 15:57and
- 15:57just
- 15:58stopping
- 15:59the
- 15:59release
- 15:59of
- 16:00serotonin,
- 16:01the
- 16:01excess
- 16:01release
- 16:01and
- 16:02modifying
- 16:03it
- 16:03homeostatically,
- 16:04instead
- 16:04of
- 16:04doing
- 16:04that,
- 16:05Velazidone
- 16:06and
- 16:06trintellix,
- 16:07they
- 16:07will
- 16:07partially
- 16:08agonize
- 16:08that.
- 16:10That
- 16:10autoreceptor,
- 16:11okay?
- 16:12Which
- 16:12is
- 16:12pretty
- 16:13neat,
- 16:13right?
- 16:13So
- 16:13we're
- 16:13not
- 16:14like
- 16:14flooding
- 16:14it
- 16:14with
- 16:15so
- 16:15much
- 16:15that
- 16:15it
- 16:15overreacts
- 16:16and
- 16:16shuts
- 16:16down
- 16:16the
- 16:16party
- 16:17or
- 16:17just
- 16:18sort
- 16:18of
- 16:18gently
- 16:20partially
- 16:20agonizing
- 16:21it,
- 16:21okay?
- 16:22So
- 16:22it's.
- 16:23Instead
- 16:23of
- 16:23full
- 16:23activation,
- 16:24it
- 16:25produces
- 16:26a
- 16:26bit
- 16:26of
- 16:26a
- 16:26weaker
- 16:27signal.
- 16:27So
- 16:28that
- 16:28smoke
- 16:28detector
- 16:29still
- 16:29works,
- 16:29but
- 16:29it's
- 16:29a
- 16:29little
- 16:30quieter.
- 16:30Okay.
- 16:31And
- 16:31that
- 16:31might.
- 16:32That
- 16:32might
- 16:32quiet
- 16:33some
- 16:33of
- 16:33the
- 16:33resistance
- 16:34because
- 16:34you're
- 16:34not
- 16:34agitating
- 16:35the
- 16:35bouncer
- 16:35as
- 16:36much.
- 16:36It's
- 16:37not
- 16:37this
- 16:37rave
- 16:38in
- 16:38the
- 16:38nightclub,
- 16:38but
- 16:39you're
- 16:39starting
- 16:39to
- 16:39dance.
- 16:40Like
- 16:40you're,
- 16:40you
- 16:41know,
- 16:41you're
- 16:41not
- 16:41going
- 16:41in
- 16:41there
- 16:41like
- 16:42a
- 16:42zombie
- 16:42and
- 16:42not
- 16:42talking,
- 16:43but
- 16:44you're
- 16:44dancing
- 16:44a
- 16:44little
- 16:44bit.
- 16:45Not
- 16:45to
- 16:45make
- 16:46the
- 16:46bouncer
- 16:46overreact
- 16:47and
- 16:47yank
- 16:47everybody
- 16:48out
- 16:48of
- 16:48the
- 16:48club,
- 16:48but
- 16:48just
- 16:49enough
- 16:49so
- 16:49that
- 16:50the
- 16:50bouncer
- 16:50kind
- 16:50of
- 16:51chills
- 16:51there
- 16:51and
- 16:51doesn't
- 16:52overreact
- 16:52and
- 16:52yank
- 16:53everybody
- 16:53out
- 16:54of
- 16:54the
- 16:54club.
- 16:54Okay?
- 16:55Some
- 16:55evidence
- 16:56that
- 16:56those
- 16:56two
- 16:57medications
- 16:57work
- 16:57a
- 16:58little
- 16:58faster.
- 16:59Not
- 16:59Ketamine
- 16:59fast,
- 17:00but
- 17:00faster.
- 17:01So
- 17:01that's
- 17:01pretty
- 17:02unique
- 17:02too.
- 17:03Okay.
- 17:05So
- 17:05I
- 17:05hope
- 17:06you
- 17:06enjoyed
- 17:07these
- 17:07sections
- 17:08so
- 17:08far.
- 17:08I
- 17:09think
- 17:09they're
- 17:09pretty
- 17:09fun.
- 17:11You
- 17:11also
- 17:11have,
- 17:12you
- 17:12know,
- 17:12meds
- 17:12like
- 17:13clonidine
- 17:14out
- 17:14there
- 17:14and
- 17:14guanfacine.
- 17:15They
- 17:15kind
- 17:16of
- 17:16do
- 17:16the
- 17:16opposite
- 17:16of
- 17:17Remeron.
- 17:18Okay.
- 17:18So
- 17:18instead
- 17:18of
- 17:19blocking
- 17:20the
- 17:21autoreceptors,
- 17:22where
- 17:22you're
- 17:23yanking
- 17:23out
- 17:23inhibition,
- 17:24they
- 17:24stimulate
- 17:25them
- 17:25a
- 17:26little
- 17:26bit.
- 17:26Okay.
- 17:27And
- 17:27the
- 17:27autoreceptors,
- 17:28like,
- 17:28whoa,
- 17:28whoa,
- 17:29whoa.
- 17:29Like,
- 17:30so
- 17:30in
- 17:30other
- 17:31words,
- 17:31you're.
- 17:31You're
- 17:32kind
- 17:32of
- 17:32tricking
- 17:32that
- 17:32autoreceptor
- 17:33to
- 17:33go,
- 17:33oh,
- 17:33my
- 17:33God,
- 17:34we
- 17:34have
- 17:34tons
- 17:34of
- 17:34norepinephrine
- 17:35now.
- 17:36So
- 17:36it
- 17:36reduces
- 17:37norepinephrine
- 17:37firing
- 17:38and
- 17:38norepinephrine
- 17:39release,
- 17:39which
- 17:39can
- 17:39be
- 17:39very
- 17:39calming
- 17:40in
- 17:40the
- 17:40case
- 17:40of
- 17:41guanfacine
- 17:42or
- 17:42clonidine.
- 17:42Right.
- 17:43So
- 17:43when
- 17:43you
- 17:43hit
- 17:43that
- 17:44autoreceptor,
- 17:45right,
- 17:45you're
- 17:45kind
- 17:45of
- 17:46doing
- 17:46the
- 17:46opposite.
- 17:46You're,
- 17:46like,
- 17:47freaking
- 17:47him
- 17:47out,
- 17:47and
- 17:47you're.
- 17:48You're
- 17:48making
- 17:48him
- 17:48act.
- 17:50You
- 17:50know,
- 17:50you're
- 17:50kind
- 17:50of
- 17:50goading
- 17:51the
- 17:51bouncer
- 17:51into
- 17:51going
- 17:52in
- 17:52there
- 17:52and
- 17:52shutting
- 17:53everything
- 17:53down.
- 17:54Right?
- 17:54You're
- 17:54kind
- 17:54of
- 17:55like.
- 17:55You're
- 17:55kind
- 17:55of
- 17:55dancing
- 17:56in
- 17:56his
- 17:56face.
- 17:56You're
- 17:57kind
- 17:57of.
- 17:57You're,
- 17:57like,
- 17:57twerking
- 17:58at
- 17:58him,
- 17:59and
- 17:59it's
- 17:59gonna
- 17:59make
- 18:00him
- 18:00very
- 18:00agitated,
- 18:01okay?
- 18:02And
- 18:02so
- 18:02you're.
- 18:03You're
- 18:03provoking
- 18:03him
- 18:04to
- 18:04shut
- 18:04the
- 18:04party
- 18:04down
- 18:05very
- 18:05quickly
- 18:06as
- 18:06opposed
- 18:06to
- 18:06yanking
- 18:07him
- 18:07out
- 18:07of
- 18:07the
- 18:07club.
- 18:08And
- 18:08when
- 18:08you
- 18:09yank
- 18:09him
- 18:09out
- 18:09of
- 18:09the
- 18:09club,
- 18:11of
- 18:11course,
- 18:11you
- 18:11have
- 18:11less
- 18:12inhibition
- 18:12completely.
- 18:13So
- 18:13just
- 18:13know
- 18:13that
- 18:14there's.
- 18:14You
- 18:14can
- 18:14agonize
- 18:15these
- 18:15autoreceptors
- 18:16on
- 18:16purpose
- 18:17for
- 18:17clinical
- 18:17effects
- 18:18like
- 18:18clonidine
- 18:18and
- 18:18guanfacine,
- 18:20so
- 18:20you
- 18:20can
- 18:20cool
- 18:20down
- 18:21the
- 18:21norepinephrine
- 18:22firing
- 18:22and
- 18:22norepinephrine
- 18:23release,
- 18:23which
- 18:23can
- 18:23be
- 18:23very
- 18:24therapeutic
- 18:24in
- 18:24certain
- 18:24people
- 18:25and
- 18:25in
- 18:25certain
- 18:25parts
- 18:26of
- 18:26the
- 18:26brain.
- 18:27Not
- 18:27all
- 18:27parts
- 18:27of
- 18:27the
- 18:27brain,
- 18:28okay.
- 18:28Because
- 18:29remember,
- 18:29we
- 18:29also
- 18:30stimulate
- 18:31receptors
- 18:32in
- 18:32postsynaptics.
- 18:33Receptors.
- 18:34We
- 18:34could
- 18:34talk
- 18:34about
- 18:35that
- 18:35in
- 18:35a
- 18:35different
- 18:35episode.
- 18:35But
- 18:36remember,
- 18:36when
- 18:36you
- 18:37stimulate
- 18:38postsynaptic
- 18:39alpha
- 18:402
- 18:40receptors
- 18:40in
- 18:40the
- 18:40prefrontal
- 18:41cortex,
- 18:42which
- 18:42guanfacine
- 18:43also
- 18:43does,
- 18:44that
- 18:44actually
- 18:44helps
- 18:45working
- 18:45memory
- 18:45and
- 18:46impulse
- 18:46control.
- 18:47Okay.
- 18:48Kind
- 18:48of
- 18:49a
- 18:49different
- 18:49mechanism.
- 18:49I
- 18:50don't
- 18:50want
- 18:50to
- 18:50confuse
- 18:50you
- 18:50with
- 18:51that,
- 18:51but
- 18:51at
- 18:51the
- 18:51end
- 18:52of
- 18:52the
- 18:52day,
- 18:52the
- 18:52goal.
- 18:53The
- 18:53concept
- 18:53of
- 18:54this
- 18:54lecture
- 18:55today
- 18:55or
- 18:55this
- 18:55discussion
- 18:56today
- 18:57is
- 18:57that
- 18:57our
- 18:57meds
- 18:58act
- 18:58very
- 18:59differently
- 19:00and.
- 19:00And
- 19:01very
- 19:01elegantly.
- 19:02And
- 19:02to
- 19:03have
- 19:03an
- 19:03understanding
- 19:03of
- 19:04what
- 19:04they
- 19:04do
- 19:04and
- 19:04why,
- 19:05it
- 19:05really
- 19:05empowers
- 19:06you
- 19:06as
- 19:06a
- 19:06clinician
- 19:06to
- 19:07understand
- 19:07why
- 19:07there's
- 19:07a
- 19:08delay.
- 19:09You
- 19:10know,
- 19:10what
- 19:11we
- 19:11can
- 19:11do
- 19:11to
- 19:11get
- 19:12out
- 19:12of
- 19:12that
- 19:12delay,
- 19:13maybe
- 19:13throw
- 19:13in
- 19:14a
- 19:14Rembron
- 19:14there,
- 19:15lazadone
- 19:15there.
- 19:16Maybe
- 19:16understanding
- 19:17why.
- 19:18If
- 19:18your
- 19:18patient
- 19:19is
- 19:19incredulous
- 19:19that
- 19:20they're
- 19:20still
- 19:20depressed
- 19:20and
- 19:21anxious
- 19:21and
- 19:21they
- 19:21don't
- 19:21know
- 19:22why
- 19:22and
- 19:22they
- 19:22feel
- 19:22helpless,
- 19:23well,
- 19:24knowing
- 19:24the
- 19:24how
- 19:24and
- 19:24why
- 19:25behind
- 19:25this
- 19:25gives
- 19:25them
- 19:26a
- 19:26window
- 19:27into
- 19:27understanding
- 19:28why
- 19:28something
- 19:28like
- 19:29ketamine
- 19:29might
- 19:29work.
- 19:30Why?
- 19:30Because
- 19:30if
- 19:31you
- 19:31don't
- 19:31explain
- 19:31it,
- 19:32they're
- 19:32just
- 19:33going
- 19:33to
- 19:33implicitly
- 19:33assume
- 19:34that
- 19:34whatever
- 19:34you
- 19:34recommend
- 19:35next
- 19:35is
- 19:35like
- 19:36another
- 19:36thing
- 19:36we're
- 19:36trying.
- 19:37And
- 19:37oh,
- 19:37it's
- 19:37all
- 19:37hopeless
- 19:38because
- 19:38I,
- 19:38everything
- 19:38I'm
- 19:38trying
- 19:39is
- 19:39hopeless.
- 19:39But
- 19:40no,
- 19:40you
- 19:40can
- 19:40explain
- 19:41that
- 19:41genetically.
- 19:42You
- 19:42might
- 19:42have
- 19:43very
- 19:43recept
- 19:43sensitive
- 19:44autoreceptors
- 19:45and
- 19:45say
- 19:45it
- 19:45in
- 19:45your
- 19:45own
- 19:46language,
- 19:46say
- 19:46it
- 19:46in
- 19:46your
- 19:46own
- 19:46way.
- 19:47You
- 19:47can
- 19:47use
- 19:47the
- 19:47word
- 19:47thermostat
- 19:48to
- 19:49help
- 19:49them
- 19:49understand
- 19:49it.
- 19:50Um,
- 19:50but
- 19:50if
- 19:50you
- 19:51take
- 19:51the
- 19:51time
- 19:51and
- 19:52educate
- 19:52them,
- 19:52they
- 19:53won't
- 19:53be
- 19:53as
- 19:53hopeless
- 19:54because
- 19:54it's
- 19:54like,
- 19:54well,
- 19:54yeah,
- 19:55I
- 19:55actually
- 19:55have
- 19:55a
- 19:55lot
- 19:56of
- 19:56hope
- 19:56for
- 19:56ketamine
- 19:56because
- 19:57this
- 19:57is
- 19:57a
- 19:57completely
- 19:58different
- 19:59way.
- 19:59We're
- 19:59trying
- 20:00to
- 20:00curb
- 20:01my
- 20:01depressive
- 20:01symptoms.
- 20:02And
- 20:03you
- 20:03know,
- 20:04you
- 20:04have
- 20:04the
- 20:04neuroplasticity
- 20:05and
- 20:05AMPA
- 20:06and
- 20:06all
- 20:06these
- 20:06different
- 20:07mechanisms
- 20:07there,
- 20:09whether
- 20:10you
- 20:10move
- 20:10to
- 20:10Luvox
- 20:11and
- 20:11you
- 20:11do
- 20:12the
- 20:12sigma
- 20:13agonism,
- 20:14right?
- 20:14So
- 20:14we
- 20:14talked
- 20:15all
- 20:15about
- 20:15the
- 20:15sigma
- 20:16receptor
- 20:16and
- 20:16how
- 20:16interesting
- 20:17that
- 20:17is
- 20:17and
- 20:17the
- 20:17neuroprotection
- 20:18there,
- 20:18the
- 20:18anti
- 20:18inflammatory
- 20:19piece,
- 20:19right?
- 20:20So
- 20:20knowing
- 20:20the
- 20:20how
- 20:21and
- 20:21why
- 20:21of
- 20:21your
- 20:21meds
- 20:22allows
- 20:23you
- 20:23to
- 20:23explain
- 20:23to
- 20:23your
- 20:24patients
- 20:24why
- 20:24we're
- 20:24doing
- 20:24things.
- 20:25And
- 20:25that
- 20:25does
- 20:25thereby
- 20:26breed
- 20:27hope,
- 20:27which
- 20:28is
- 20:28a
- 20:28really
- 20:28cool
- 20:29concept.
- 20:29All
- 20:30right,
- 20:30my
- 20:30friends,
- 20:32I
- 20:32always
- 20:32say
- 20:33this,
- 20:34but
- 20:34there
- 20:34is
- 20:35a
- 20:36really
- 20:36big
- 20:36difference
- 20:36between
- 20:37good
- 20:37and
- 20:37great
- 20:38clinicians.
- 20:38And
- 20:38it's
- 20:38usually
- 20:39because
- 20:39the
- 20:39great
- 20:39ones
- 20:40understand
- 20:40the
- 20:40how
- 20:41and
- 20:41the
- 20:41why
- 20:41of
- 20:41what
- 20:42they're
- 20:42doing.
- 20:42Patients
- 20:42smell
- 20:43that
- 20:43a
- 20:44mile
- 20:44away.
- 20:45Now
- 20:45I
- 20:45built
- 20:45a
- 20:45whole
- 20:46Patreon
- 20:47library
- 20:48full
- 20:48of
- 20:49beautiful
- 20:49visuals,
- 20:50intuitive
- 20:50visuals
- 20:51that
- 20:51help
- 20:51you
- 20:51understand
- 20:52psychiatry
- 20:52quickly
- 20:53in
- 20:53a
- 20:53sticky
- 20:54way.
- 20:54And
- 20:55it
- 20:55will
- 20:55help
- 20:55you
- 20:56separate
- 20:56yourself
- 20:56from
- 20:57the
- 20:57goods
- 20:57to
- 20:57the
- 20:58greats.
- 20:58And
- 20:58patients
- 20:59will
- 20:59smell
- 20:59that
- 21:00a
- 21:00mile
- 21:00away.
- 21:00I
- 21:00am
- 21:01genuinely
- 21:01terrified
- 21:02to
- 21:02know
- 21:02who
- 21:02I
- 21:02would
- 21:02be
- 21:02as
- 21:03a
- 21:03clinician
- 21:03if
- 21:04I
- 21:04didn't
- 21:04have
- 21:04this
- 21:04library
- 21:05to
- 21:05fall
- 21:05back
- 21:05on.
- 21:06It
- 21:06has
- 21:06got
- 21:07so
- 21:07many
- 21:07beautiful
- 21:08visuals
- 21:08and
- 21:08lectures
- 21:09and
- 21:09pearl
- 21:09drops
- 21:10and
- 21:10rap
- 21:10songs
- 21:11and
- 21:11you
- 21:11name
- 21:11it.
- 21:11It's
- 21:11so
- 21:12much
- 21:12fun.
- 21:12It's
- 21:12such
- 21:12a
- 21:13great
- 21:13community
- 21:13of
- 21:13people
- 21:14and
- 21:14it's
- 21:14exciting
- 21:15because
- 21:15it
- 21:15makes
- 21:16psychiatry
- 21:16stick.
- 21:17I
- 21:17highly
- 21:17recommend,
- 21:17if
- 21:18there's
- 21:18one
- 21:18thing
- 21:18you
- 21:18don't
- 21:18forget
- 21:19today,
- 21:19my
- 21:19friends,
- 21:20before
- 21:20you
- 21:20go
- 21:20to
- 21:21bed,
- 21:22go
- 21:22to
- 21:22the
- 21:22show
- 21:22notes
- 21:23and
- 21:23become
- 21:23a
- 21:23Patreon
- 21:24member.
- 21:24You
- 21:24will
- 21:24not
- 21:24regret
- 21:25it.
- 21:25It
- 21:25is
- 21:25awesome.
- 21:25We
- 21:26would
- 21:26love
- 21:26to
- 21:26have
- 21:26you.
- 21:27We
- 21:27appreciate
- 21:27every
- 21:28one
- 21:28of
- 21:28you,
- 21:28by
- 21:28the
- 21:28way,
- 21:28for
- 21:29listening.
- 21:29Thank
- 21:30you
- 21:30all
- 21:30and
- 21:30see
- 21:30you
- 21:31next
- 21:31time
- 21:31here
- 21:31on
- 21:31Pearls
- 21:32and
- 21:32Prep.
- 21:32Bye.
- 21:33Bye.