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Trump Kicks A$$ in Iowa! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Iowa is Maga country, plain and simple. It was a
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Speaker 1: blowout victory in Iowa for Donald J.
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Speaker 2: Trump.
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Speaker 1: And it was such a blowout that even on MSNBC
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Speaker 1: and on CNN they were having to talk about the
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Speaker 1: fact that they had never called it this early in
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Speaker 1: Iowa ever for a candidate like this. It was so
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Speaker 1: early in the night in this landslide, and it is
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Speaker 1: a landslide that the people at the Donald Trump party
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Speaker 1: weren't even there yet because they were still caucusing or
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Speaker 1: leaving from where they had been meeting.
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Speaker 2: That's how fast it was.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear how Fox News reacted to
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump for winning Iowa in a landslide. And let
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Speaker 1: me be clear about this. It is obvious that President
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Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump had an incredible victory in the Iowa primary.
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Speaker 1: He didn't do one single televised debate. What does this mean, Well,
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Speaker 1: it means this a lot of working class Americans who
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Speaker 1: value the work he did to make America great again
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Speaker 1: voted for him. They gave him four years of historic
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Speaker 1: peace and prosperity, and they want it back again again.
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Speaker 2: This is how Fox News announced it.
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Speaker 3: Listen, and especially when it comes to that Maga voter.
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Speaker 3: It's telling us a lot about how President Trump is
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Speaker 3: having a really good night there in Iowa.
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Speaker 4: So take a look. This is some of the key
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Speaker 4: findings so far.
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Speaker 3: When it comes to the MAGA supporters in our Fox
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Speaker 3: News analysis, more than six and ten of them of
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Speaker 3: those caucus goers that identify as MAGA, the vast majority
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Speaker 3: of them, close to eight and ten, it is revealed,
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Speaker 3: are breaking for Donald Trump. He still appears to be
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Speaker 3: king of the MAGA world seventy seven percent of them.
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Speaker 4: But looking at the.
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Speaker 3: Moderate voters, this is a key group that we were
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Speaker 3: watching heading into Iowa.
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Speaker 4: This appears to give some hope to Nikki Haley.
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Speaker 3: Now when it comes to those moderate voters, she does
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Speaker 3: that beat Donald Trump there, but she's well ahead of
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Speaker 3: DeSantis and Ramaswami among moderate voters. This may reflect something
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Speaker 3: about her potential strength in a general election.
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Speaker 4: So that is a key takeaway.
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Speaker 3: Now let's take a look at another very key group
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Speaker 3: there in Iowa, and that is the evangelical Christian voter.
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Speaker 3: This is a sizeable group in Iowa. We all know
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Speaker 3: that we've been watching that heading into Iowa with this group,
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Speaker 3: DeSantis courted them, was even endorsed by Bob Vanderplatz as
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Speaker 3: we know, but they love Donald Trump. DeSantis is forty
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Speaker 3: points behind him and just five points ahead of Haley.
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Speaker 3: All right, So another key finding with Trump is the
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Speaker 3: fact that he is still facing multiple investigations and indictments.
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Speaker 3: So we put the question to voters, this for the
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Speaker 3: most part, does not appear to.
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Speaker 4: Be a factor for caucus goers. Look at this.
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Speaker 3: More than half think the former president did nothing wrong
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Speaker 3: on January sixth. Half think the same about interference in
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty election.
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Speaker 4: That bumps down to four and ten.
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Speaker 3: As you can see when it comes to classified documents,
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Speaker 3: that is Florida Home. Overall, though, Iowa Republicans think the
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Speaker 3: investigation and the former president are political, not legitimate. So
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Speaker 3: take a look at this. Another key finding in a
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Speaker 3: question that we put to voters. When it comes to
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Speaker 3: those Trump charges, close to eight and ten say the
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Speaker 3: charges against Trump are political. Only two in say two
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Speaker 3: and ten say legitimate. And speaking of legitimate, more than
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Speaker 3: six and ten caucus goers say President Biden was not
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Speaker 3: legitimately elected four years ago. This is when we put
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Speaker 3: this question to voters. Those who think Biden's election was
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Speaker 3: on the up and up clicking yes here they're backing
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Speaker 3: Nikki Hiley. Those who don't break strongly close to three
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Speaker 3: quarters for Donald Trump. And finally, one other hot button
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Speaker 3: issue among Iowa Republicans is what is being taught in schools.
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Speaker 3: So we asked about three issues and here is what
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Speaker 3: they said and some of the top findings that we
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Speaker 3: took away from the Fox News voter analysis school teachings.
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Speaker 3: Half say K through eight schools are teaching too much
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Speaker 3: Sean about racism. But look, close to three quarters of
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Speaker 3: caucus attendees think schools are focusing too much on sexual
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Speaker 3: orientation and gender identity.
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Speaker 4: These are some really revealing numbers. Something to dig into, Sean.
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Speaker 2: What does this mean?
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Speaker 1: By the way, and I played that it was longer,
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Speaker 1: but I wanted you to hear all of this. What
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Speaker 1: this means is exactly what I've been telling you. Not
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Speaker 1: only was Trump gonna win Iowa easily, which is exactly
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Speaker 1: what I predicted for you, but honestly, this was a
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Speaker 1: comeback in a way that was against everybody against him,
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Speaker 1: including all of the lawsuits against him, including all of
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Speaker 1: the indictments, including all of the Shenanigans, and the American
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Speaker 1: people on the conservative side are saying, we are smart
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Speaker 1: enough to not be influences way, we are smart enough
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Speaker 1: to realize what's happening here. We're not stupid, We're very smart.
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Speaker 1: Now what the White House is now doing, just so
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Speaker 1: you know, if you want to know, if they think
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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump's a nominee, they are now fundraising off
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Speaker 1: of this, putting out fundraising letters making it clear that
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Speaker 1: they believe that Donald Trump is the guy. See and
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Speaker 1: in Politics is now reporting tonight that that Donald J.
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Speaker 1: Trump is the front runner, and the Biden campaign is
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Speaker 1: now using that to say we're up against Trump. They're
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Speaker 1: not mentioning Nicki Haley. They're not mentioning Ronda Santis. Now
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Speaker 1: let me get into quickly, DeSantis Haley, so you understand, Okay,
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Speaker 1: Number one, Ace Hudgson's done, eighty four votes done the
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Speaker 1: vek Ramaswani. You can be entertained by the guy and
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Speaker 1: watch him be a blowhard.
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Speaker 2: He's done. He needs to get out.
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Speaker 1: Ronda Santis and Nikki Haley both are fighting desperately to
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Speaker 1: claim that they came in second here and the reason why.
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Speaker 1: And as I'm doing this, by the way, I'm doing
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Speaker 1: live reaction to this at night, while we don't have
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Speaker 1: exactly every bit of data in on who's going to
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Speaker 1: come in second, So I'm giving it from this perspective.
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Speaker 1: When you hear this, we may know who's second or
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Speaker 1: who and who's third. But regardless, this was a disaster
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Speaker 1: for Haley and a disaster for Ron. And the reason
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Speaker 1: why I say that is when I was, as I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at this right now, Donald Trump has more votes
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Speaker 1: than DeSantis, Haley, Ramaswadne, and Hudgson all combined. Now there
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Speaker 1: was also something else and the goalposts removed, and the
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Speaker 1: media was doing this early in the day in Iowa
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Speaker 1: as they were dealing with these bitter cold temperatures and
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Speaker 1: the countries in a freeze right now, they were saying, well,
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Speaker 1: if Donald Trump can't get above you know, fifty percent,
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Speaker 1: then then is he really have a commanding lead?
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Speaker 2: Like you guys are idiots.
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Speaker 1: I understand that you don't want him to get to
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Speaker 1: be the nominee, and I understand you're going to say
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Speaker 1: everything you can to undermine, but the reality is that
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Speaker 1: this is a massive win. And this is the earliest
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen it called in Iowa in my political life.
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Speaker 2: And I do this for a living. I'm not the
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Speaker 2: only one.
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Speaker 1: Even Jake Tapper went on CNN and said the same thing.
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Speaker 1: He was like, all right, I mean, think about how
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Speaker 1: early they called this for Trump. It was so early
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Speaker 1: no one was at the party yet, because that's how
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Speaker 1: early the night it was. And the Biden campaign reacted instantly,
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's campaign fundraising off Donald Trump's projected Iowa caucus
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Speaker 1: when warning of quote vile attacks, endless lies, and massive
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Speaker 1: spending of Trump secure as a Republican nomination for president. AKA,
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Speaker 1: what they're saying is give us your money because we're
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Speaker 1: going up against Donald Trump in the general election, and
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Speaker 1: it's clear to us that's what's about to happen. Now,
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Speaker 1: let me also say this, I think it's time to
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Speaker 1: walk away from Iowa. You can go into New Hampshire.
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Speaker 1: But who should be there. The only two people that
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Speaker 1: could even say, well, I should still stay in this,
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Speaker 1: or I might need to say this, or maybe there's
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Speaker 1: a chance I should stay in this would be Haley
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Speaker 1: Intosantus Ramaswami. You're done, Hudson, you're done, okay, And honestly,
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Speaker 1: I think the other two are done as well. They're
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Speaker 1: going to have a real big problem after this beat
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Speaker 1: down from Trump. And this was a beatdown from Trump.
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Speaker 1: It's Maga country in Iowa. I also think this tells
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Speaker 1: you about where the mindset is of the conservative Republican
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Speaker 1: GOP voter nationwide. I think you can absolutely read into
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Speaker 1: it because it was such a beatdown, and for the
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Speaker 1: president to be able to do this, for Trump to
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Speaker 1: be able to do this without doing a single televised
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Speaker 1: debate tells you something as well about just how powerful
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Speaker 1: he is. And there's gonna be a problem with donors
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Speaker 1: for these other two candidates. These other two candids are
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Speaker 1: going to have some serious problems raising money because they
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Speaker 1: came so far behind, they didn't challenge Trump at all.
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Speaker 1: If you're a donor, are you gonna write a million
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Speaker 1: dollar check or a fifty thousand dollar check, or a
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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars check or a five thousand dollar check to.
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Speaker 2: Either of these individuals? Think about that.
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Speaker 1: You think Hailey's gonna get a big fat check from
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Speaker 1: somebody like, hey, you did great, coming in whatever it
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Speaker 1: is first or second or Desanders, Hey you did great,
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Speaker 1: You're gonna come in. We're gonna give you a fat
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Speaker 1: check first. Second, I don't see it. I don't see
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Speaker 1: it at all. I just don't. I don't see a
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Speaker 1: pathway for anyone but Trump. Let me just say this
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Speaker 1: about money real quick. You can raise money. There's people
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Speaker 1: out there that just want to be around a candidate.
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Speaker 1: They want to have a relationship and feel like they're important,
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Speaker 1: and they'll write you checks.
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Speaker 2: I want to be clear about that.
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Speaker 1: And I think that there's enough people out there that
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Speaker 1: truly hate Donald Trump that you can get some money
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Speaker 1: and make and get them to write checks to you
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Speaker 1: if you're Nikki Haley, for example. I think this Iowa
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Speaker 1: result is actually going to be worse on DeSantis because
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Speaker 1: DeSantis and Trump are basically one of the same.
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Speaker 2: One's a little older, one's a little younger.
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Speaker 1: One's got a track record as president in the United
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Speaker 1: States America and the other one doesn't, and so they're
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Speaker 1: both feeding from the same pool of people, and that's
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Speaker 1: going to be a problem.
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Speaker 2: I think it's actually.
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Speaker 1: Going to be a really really really really really big
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Speaker 1: problem moving forward for DeSantis. Now, DeSantis needed not just
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Speaker 1: to come in second, in my opinion, he needed to
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Speaker 1: show that he could challenge Trumper or at least bite
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Speaker 1: a big chunk and have Trump be well under fifty
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Speaker 1: percent at forty forty one, forty two percent of the vote.
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Speaker 2: That didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: And so now you've got, yeah, Nikki Haley, she's going
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Speaker 1: to get some cash right from the never Trump crowd,
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Speaker 1: the establishment crowd. But you cannot overlook the reality of
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Speaker 1: the results. I'm glad that we have Iowa. I'm glad
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Speaker 1: that New Hampshire happens very quickly after Iowa. I think
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Speaker 1: it's important people get to speak. But you got to
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Speaker 1: you gotta look into this. You you do have to
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Speaker 1: understand that. Okay, You've got to look into these numbers
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Speaker 1: and get some understanding out of it.
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Speaker 2: And these numbers.
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Speaker 1: Are overwhelmingly massive for Donald Trump called earlier than I've
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Speaker 1: ever seen in my life.
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Speaker 2: Everyone should let that sink in.
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Speaker 1: Hailey DeSantis are battling for not just second, but a
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Speaker 1: distant second, and Viveck was basically shut out here.
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Speaker 2: So and I'm glad I've e's gone. By the way.
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Speaker 1: I don't trust the guy. I think he's a stakehold salesman.
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Speaker 1: I don't like the fact he actually he's some sort
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Speaker 1: of evangelical Christian when he's really Hindu and I don't know.
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Speaker 2: You can pick your religion.
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Speaker 1: I don't care, but don't act like Hindu isn't the
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Speaker 1: same as Christianity and try to fake people out. That
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Speaker 1: offended my, uh my understanding of my faith when you
11:54
Speaker 1: try to act like somehow your faith is the same
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Speaker 1: and they're very, very different, just trying to hoodwink people
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Speaker 1: into voting for you.
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Speaker 2: It bothered me a lot.
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Speaker 1: And I think the voters in Iowa clearly saw the
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Speaker 1: same thing that I did and said, Okay, we don't
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Speaker 1: like how you are a chameleon, and we don't like
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Speaker 1: that you're this kind of arrogant, cocky, billionaire, pompous get
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Speaker 1: in the face of people and hear me roar with
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Speaker 1: no background. All right, I think this is an opportunist
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Speaker 1: and I think this really is. The Other thing is
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump crushed it with evangelicals, and there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that were saying internally they were worried
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Speaker 1: that Trump may have lost some of the evangelicals support
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Speaker 1: because of all these lawsuits. Right and Democrats in the
12:38
Speaker 1: media have been trying to just beat him up for
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Speaker 1: the last four years, looking like he's some sort of
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Speaker 1: lawless narcissist individual that is should be in jail. It
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Speaker 1: didn't work with him either. The early entrance pulling presented
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Speaker 1: by Seeing and found Trump seeing support from fifty five
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Speaker 1: percent of evangelicals. That's more than double the twenty four
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Speaker 1: percent garnered by Florida Governor de Santas and more than
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Speaker 1: four times what Nicky Hayley got twelve percent support among
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Speaker 1: that group. So this idea that among evangelicals right Christians,
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Speaker 1: that they were going to walk away from.
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Speaker 2: Trump, it's just not true.
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Speaker 1: Sixty plus percent of evangelicals going for Trump, and Iowa,
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Speaker 1: Ronda Santis, by the way, made a very valiant and
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Speaker 1: well campaigned pushed for evangelicals.
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Speaker 2: It didn't pan out.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because this goes back to
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Speaker 1: what I say early on about Dysantis. I said on
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Speaker 1: the show, and I was giving you this as not
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Speaker 1: a cheerleading perspective, but honest, real authentic analysts perspective for you,
13:40
Speaker 1: just an honest analysis to give it to you. And
13:45
Speaker 1: one of the things that I said early on was
13:48
Speaker 1: if you put Rhonda Santis' what he believes in on
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Speaker 1: a page, and then you put Donald Trump and what
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Speaker 1: he believes in on a page and their stances on
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Speaker 1: the issues.
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Speaker 2: Can you really find anything? Can you? I mean seriously,
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Speaker 2: can you find.
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Speaker 1: Anything that is significantly different between the two men that's
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Speaker 1: gonna make you say, Okay, I want that one over
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Speaker 1: that one. No, And so I didn't understand the whole DeSantis,
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Speaker 1: Why are you running if Trump's going to get indicted
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Speaker 1: which we all knew he was because Democrats were psychotically
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Speaker 1: obsessed with doing it and it was going to turn
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Speaker 1: him into martyr. How do you run against the guy
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Speaker 1: that's been president, has a much lengthier voting record than
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Speaker 1: you do, who has already had experience with the job,
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Speaker 1: when you basically believe exactly the same things.
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Speaker 2: If you're side by side.
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Speaker 1: On stage, I mean, if you went through the top
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Speaker 1: twenty five issues in the conservative movement, I think twenty
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Speaker 1: four of twenty five, they would both raise their hand
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Speaker 1: saying are you in favor of this? Do you support this?
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Speaker 1: Do you support that? Do you support this? They would
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Speaker 1: raise their hands. So why run against one another in
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Speaker 1: that scenario when clearly Donald Trump had the advantage. And
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Speaker 1: that's what the Iowa voters, by the way, are saying
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Speaker 1: right here. Okay, that's exactly what the Iowa voters are saying.
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Speaker 1: They're saying, we still like Donald Trump. There's also the
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Speaker 1: aspect of this I think that's really important is the
15:09
Speaker 1: Biden team has been trying to say, well, Okay, if
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is too old, then so is Donald j.
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Speaker 2: Trump.
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Speaker 1: That didn't work in Iowa either, because people are judging
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Speaker 1: them on cognizance, not just based on a number on
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Speaker 1: a page. The difference between Donald Trump and the difference
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Speaker 1: between Joe Biden is Donald Trump still very much seems
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Speaker 1: like he is completely with it at the same level
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Speaker 1: that he was four years ago and four years before that.
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Speaker 1: No one is gonna in their right mind they're lying
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Speaker 1: to they say that Donald that Joe Biden is at
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Speaker 1: the same cognitive level that he was a year ago,
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Speaker 1: much less four years ago, much less eight years ago.
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Speaker 1: And so Donald Trump's age is not an issue because
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Speaker 1: he hasn't seen the cognitive decline that Joe Biden is seen.
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Speaker 1: And I would argue that Joe Biden's age actually isn't
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Speaker 1: the issue. It's his cognitive decline that's the issue. Yes,
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Speaker 1: winning team. And so after you see these results coming
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Speaker 2: What does it mean.
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Speaker 1: It means that people that maybe were on the fence
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Speaker 1: or maybe could have voted for Haley or de santas
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Speaker 1: of vivic right, They're going to now want to pick
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Speaker 1: a winning team. It's just like sports. We're watching the
18:38
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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But people don't like to vote
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Speaker 1: at Trump differently because of this overwhelming beat down in Iowa,
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Speaker 1: I could vote for DeSantis, and by the way, I could.
19:03
Speaker 1: I could vote for DeSantis just for the record, right, like,
19:06
Speaker 1: I don't see any things in his resume that terrify me.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I would be all in for DeSantis if
19:14
Speaker 1: Donald Trump wasn't in the race. And I think there's
19:18
Speaker 1: many conservatives that feel the same way that if Donald
19:20
Speaker 1: Trump was in the race, DeSantis would have been a
19:22
Speaker 1: guy that would have been absolutely loved by many people.
19:26
Speaker 1: The problem is Donald Trump's in the race, and so
19:29
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump and the race, then then it's kind
19:32
Speaker 1: of one of those moments you're like what are you doing?
19:34
Speaker 1: Man like, like for real, like what are you doing?
19:38
Speaker 1: And so I just don't see there being this big
19:43
Speaker 1: like Okay, we're gonna double down, right, and and we're
19:46
Speaker 1: gonna show Trump in New Hampshire or South Carolina. Right,
19:50
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna really show him. And I need
19:54
Speaker 1: more money, more support. Look, it takes a lot of
19:56
Speaker 1: money to run for office in general. Now, it takes
19:58
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of money in insane amount
20:00
Speaker 1: of run money to run for president, and people like
20:03
Speaker 1: being on a winning team. I just don't see how
20:06
Speaker 1: you overcome this beat down if you're the other two Kennants,
20:11
Speaker 1: just from the standpoint now that there's a lot less
20:13
Speaker 1: people that want to sit down with you, and a
20:15
Speaker 1: lot less people that want to write you a check.
20:17
Speaker 1: By the way, there's a lot of people that may
20:19
Speaker 1: have been holding out to write checks who are now
20:21
Speaker 1: saying okay, and maybe it's in their business interest, right,
20:24
Speaker 1: Maybe they're selfish voters, but they're going to pick who
20:27
Speaker 1: they think is going to be the winner because it's
20:29
Speaker 1: good for them. You don't want to be on the
20:31
Speaker 1: record in public. It's public knowledge of who people write
20:34
Speaker 1: checks to and say, yeah, I run a huge check
20:36
Speaker 1: to Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley after you want an
20:39
Speaker 1: Iowa as president, but now I need a favor from you,
20:41
Speaker 1: or now I want you to listen to about what I want.
20:43
Speaker 1: You know, this issue, like come on, and there's going
20:47
Speaker 1: to be a lot of big donors that are going
20:48
Speaker 1: to look at this and say, Okay, look, hey, we
20:50
Speaker 1: need to hedge our bets.
20:50
Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: It's clearly going to be Trump. It's not going to
20:53
Speaker 1: be DeSantis, not gonna be Haley. It's time for us
20:54
Speaker 1: to get on board. That's what I think is going
20:57
Speaker 1: to happen here. Let me also say so something else
21:00
Speaker 1: about the media and their meltdown over this. MSNBC couldn't
21:05
Speaker 1: believe that sixty three percent of Iowa voters will say
21:07
Speaker 1: they'll still vote for Trump even if he's a convicted felon,
21:11
Speaker 1: and MSNBC this is how they were talking about the
21:14
Speaker 1: win for Trump, like they can't get their head around
21:16
Speaker 1: the idea that there's a real chance that Donald Trump
21:20
Speaker 1: could get elected to the presidency yet again, after what
21:24
Speaker 1: all they've done to try to stop him, including indicting him.
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Speaker 5: Listen, is that of people turning out to caucus in Iowa,
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Speaker 5: a third of them think that if Donald Trump is convicted,
21:36
Speaker 5: he is not fit to be president. And this incredibly
21:39
Speaker 5: conservative electorate where Trump is going to run away with
21:42
Speaker 5: the Iowa caucuses by a mile, and then some still
21:46
Speaker 5: a third of that electorate says if he's convicted, they're
21:50
Speaker 5: going to nominate him national.
21:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, but even a third of Iowa caucus goers will say, no,
21:55
Speaker 4: he can't be president if he's convicted. I'm sorry, but.
21:57
Speaker 2: He's going to be convicted. There, I mean, you can
22:01
Speaker 2: hear it there.
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Speaker 1: Like they're like, they don't understand it, right, they say
22:06
Speaker 1: they got there, They're like, look, you know, sixty three percent,
22:11
Speaker 1: sixty three percent say Trump still fit if convicted. They
22:14
Speaker 1: can't understand that because the majority of the people think
22:17
Speaker 1: that this is total crap. And she says, six to
22:20
Speaker 1: three percent of Iowa voters say they'll still vote.
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Speaker 2: For Trump even if he's a convicted felon.
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Speaker 1: He's going to be convicted, she whispers, Right, let me
22:28
Speaker 1: explain this to you simply, your damn right, We're going
22:31
Speaker 1: to still vote for him because we understand what trumped
22:35
Speaker 1: up charges actually look like. We understand what this actually means,
22:39
Speaker 1: which brings me to something that was said by new Gingrich.
22:43
Speaker 1: New Gingrich was on Fox with Hannity, Uh doing you
22:46
Speaker 1: know this just beat down coverage, and I want you
22:49
Speaker 1: to hear what he said about why Donald Trump did
22:53
Speaker 1: so well and what this means moving forward.
22:55
Speaker 6: Listen the speaker, You became part of a very big
22:59
Speaker 6: ad that the trum campaign if somebody put together I'm
23:01
Speaker 6: not sure if it was a super pack of the campaign,
23:04
Speaker 6: and you voice it over and you make a comparison
23:07
Speaker 6: about corruption with the Clintons and the Bidens and a
23:10
Speaker 6: dual system of justice. I don't know what to what
23:13
Speaker 6: degree at that played a role tonight, but certainly it
23:16
Speaker 6: did not deter many people in Iowa tonight for voting
23:19
Speaker 6: for Donald Trump. What's your analysis is?
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Speaker 7: You know, I almost never write anything down listening to
23:27
Speaker 7: the two brilliant people. You know, you just had two
23:29
Speaker 7: of the best analysts on American politics that we have.
23:33
Speaker 7: So I've got five quick points. One, this is the
23:36
Speaker 7: people's victory. Despite every media, despite every lawsuit, despite every
23:42
Speaker 7: effort to destroy Trump, the people of Iowa have stood
23:46
Speaker 7: up and said, no, he is our candidate number two.
23:50
Speaker 7: He's the nominee.
23:51
Speaker 2: Get over it.
23:53
Speaker 7: He is the nominee. He's going to win the nomination.
23:55
Speaker 7: The news media doesn't want to say that because they
23:58
Speaker 7: need to somehow hype. Please watch us while we go
24:01
Speaker 7: through this charade. There is no candidacy for number two.
24:05
Speaker 7: There is no number two. There are irrelevancies. You get
24:08
Speaker 7: to be the leading irrelevant, or the second irrelevant, or
24:11
Speaker 7: the third irrelevant. But nobody's going to be number two
24:14
Speaker 7: because he's going to dominate totally. If you look at
24:17
Speaker 7: the country at large, where he's at like sixty two
24:19
Speaker 7: or sixty four percent approval, Trump is not a candidate.
24:24
Speaker 7: Trump is the leader of a nationwide movement to take
24:28
Speaker 7: power back from the establishment. And that's why every time
24:32
Speaker 7: he's attacked by the judiciary, every time he's attacked by
24:36
Speaker 7: the news media, he gets stronger because people go, yep,
24:39
Speaker 7: that's what I thought. That's exactly what those corrupt people
24:42
Speaker 7: will do. And of course, starting with the Russian hoax,
24:45
Speaker 7: it's just clear these people lie all the time. Finally,
24:50
Speaker 7: Iowa has turned red. When I first got involved in politics,
24:53
Speaker 7: Iowa was a very competitive state and sometimes there's a
24:57
Speaker 7: sort of Democrat state. But over the years Iowa has
25:00
Speaker 7: moved away, and Trump is a big part of this.
25:02
Speaker 7: If you look at the who's winning elections in Iowa today,
25:05
Speaker 7: they're Republicans. If you look at which party is collapsing
25:08
Speaker 7: in Iowa today, it's the Democrats. That's a harbinger. I
25:11
Speaker 7: think of what the next few years are going to
25:13
Speaker 7: be like. So that's my sweeping introduction.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I agree with everything that speaker Gingrich
25:20
Speaker 1: just said there. And so this now turns into what
25:23
Speaker 1: is the media going to do to try to stop
25:27
Speaker 1: Donald Trump? Howard Dean, he said that evangelicals have now
25:32
Speaker 1: sold out, They've abandoned everything because they went with Donald Trump.
25:35
Speaker 1: Listed this is the former leader of the Democratic Party,
25:39
Speaker 1: former presidential candidate.
25:41
Speaker 2: The guy Rah. Remember when he screamed, that's that Howard Dean. Listen.
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Speaker 8: I mean Trump is the farthest thing from an evangelical Christian,
25:47
Speaker 8: in factually the farthest thing from a Christian in terms
25:50
Speaker 8: of his own professed values. How he treats women, how
25:53
Speaker 8: he treats other people, his willingness to say whatever he wants,
25:58
Speaker 8: whether it's true or not. I mean, these are what
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Speaker 8: most Christians would call Christian values.
26:03
Speaker 2: So in many ways.
26:05
Speaker 8: The danger here is that the evangelical Christians have abandoned
26:09
Speaker 8: any pretense of being ethical, and they're just doing this
26:13
Speaker 8: because Trump is their vehicle to their vision of what
26:16
Speaker 8: they'd like to impose on the rest of us in
26:18
Speaker 8: the United States.
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Speaker 1: So there it is Howard Dean now saying that if
26:23
Speaker 1: you're a Christian and you vote for Donald Trump, you're
26:25
Speaker 1: not really a Christian at all. Then you move on
26:29
Speaker 1: over to Chris Wallace, right, the former guy that was
26:33
Speaker 1: over at Fox, who's now at CNN, And what did
26:35
Speaker 1: he say. He was scolding Christians, saying that you're basically
26:39
Speaker 1: now no longer Christians.
26:40
Speaker 2: You're a cult. Yes, you're a cult. Like David Koresh.
26:44
Speaker 9: When he walked in the room, the reaction was electric.
26:48
Speaker 10: Everybody.
26:48
Speaker 9: There may be people here for a lot of other candidates.
26:51
Speaker 9: There was genuine excitement. Everybody stood up, gave him a
26:53
Speaker 9: standing ovation. I completely agree with you, And it's interesting
26:57
Speaker 9: he's not, at least the part that we heard so far,
27:00
Speaker 9: is not talking about twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: He's not talking grievance.
27:03
Speaker 4: You start somebody's screen, you didn't lose.
27:06
Speaker 2: Well, then you can't help the audience.
27:08
Speaker 9: But I mean he was exactly saying how much better
27:11
Speaker 9: the country was when he was president than it is now.
27:14
Speaker 4: And I think you're going to.
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Speaker 9: See that, I'm told an increasing focus on Biden and
27:20
Speaker 9: a general election in a sense that assuming that he
27:24
Speaker 9: does well tonight, that you know, let's get this nomination
27:28
Speaker 9: over with and unite and fight Joe Biden.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think you know, the thing that
27:32
Speaker 10: we can't lose sight of is that this really is
27:36
Speaker 10: a race between two incumbents for all intents and purposes,
27:40
Speaker 10: in Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
27:43
Speaker 11: Donald Trump is one of the most famous men on
27:45
Speaker 11: the entire planet. Right, it makes sense that he has
27:49
Speaker 11: been the front runner all along.
27:51
Speaker 4: And I think what really.
27:52
Speaker 11: Has driven that dynamic is that no other candidate has
27:55
Speaker 11: made a convincing argument against him or shown the country
27:59
Speaker 11: that they can stand and become or be a bigger
28:03
Speaker 11: deal than he is.
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Speaker 2: I love this.
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Speaker 1: It's a cult. You guys are like a cult. You
28:07
Speaker 1: stand up and cheer him. It's like you're a cult.
28:10
Speaker 1: Right there.
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Speaker 2: It is. I'm going to just say it there.
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Speaker 1: Lawrence o'donald, by the way, throwing out a new conspiracy
28:16
Speaker 1: theory on MSNBC, this is what they had to say
28:19
Speaker 1: about Nikki Hayley.
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Speaker 12: Then there is overwhelming data, new data to night among
28:23
Speaker 12: Republican activists and a a bunch of other indies, Normanies
28:27
Speaker 12: and otherwise who say no, I don't want.
28:29
Speaker 4: A Fellon running the play.
28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would.
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Speaker 12: Be and I don't say this as anything other than observation,
28:34
Speaker 12: that would be bad news for Trump in a general Right.
28:37
Speaker 13: Look, I also think we're going to see tomorrow and
28:39
Speaker 13: we saw last week that Trump is basically running a
28:41
Speaker 13: campaign in the courtroom, right, he was there more than
28:44
Speaker 13: he was in Iowa over the last week. Is that
28:47
Speaker 13: going to work for the Republican electorate? Seems pretty clearly
28:50
Speaker 13: from these entrance polls. Yes, But to your point, the
28:53
Speaker 13: whole electorate is an entirely different population of people, and
28:58
Speaker 13: Trump loves his own stress, so it's very possible he
29:01
Speaker 13: may keep doubling down on that, right, Yes, Well.
29:04
Speaker 14: The worst thing we've learned about the Republican primary electorate
29:08
Speaker 14: is not yet in these entrance poles questions. Not the
29:12
Speaker 14: CBS poll of their final poll before the Iowa coox
29:16
Speaker 14: is a national poll shows that eighty one percent of
29:21
Speaker 14: Republican primary voters and caucus participants, eighty one percent of
29:27
Speaker 14: those people agree with Donald Trump that immigrants are poisoning
29:32
Speaker 14: the blood of this country. That means that eighty one
29:36
Speaker 14: percent of the Republican primary electorate believe Nikki Hayley has
29:42
Speaker 14: poisoned blood and is poisoning the blood of the United States.
29:47
Speaker 14: So that as a roadblock for Nicki Haley is impossible.
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Speaker 1: But it also you hear this right now, we're getting
29:55
Speaker 1: down to like people's blood and are they pure bloods?
29:58
Speaker 1: Do you hear this psycho talk from MSNBC, And I
30:02
Speaker 1: play this for you because I just want you to
30:04
Speaker 1: understand they're not going to stop. Okay, they're not going
30:08
Speaker 1: to back down. They're not going to stop and just
30:12
Speaker 1: to allow Donald Trump to have this. They're going to
30:14
Speaker 1: now and this is part of what they do. They're
30:16
Speaker 1: going to come after all of us.
30:18
Speaker 2: Now.
30:19
Speaker 1: Right, you're in a cult, You're like a Nazi. You're
30:23
Speaker 1: a bunch of psychopaths. Right, You're a bunch of crazies
30:27
Speaker 1: out there. You're a bunch of demented, crazy people. And
30:32
Speaker 1: if you think they're going to sit there for a
30:35
Speaker 1: moment and let you have a second to enjoy this victory,
30:41
Speaker 1: you are wrong.
30:43
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep covering it. Enjoy the moment.
30:46
Speaker 1: I will say that it is very clear that this
30:49
Speaker 1: country is behind Donald Trump right now. I think it's
30:54
Speaker 1: very clear he is a presumptive nominee right now. It's
30:57
Speaker 1: going to be very hard for these other candidates to
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