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Jemele Hill, Remi Adeleke, Dawniel Winningham, Jake & Jazz Smollett · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: we come. That's right. Welcome to money making Conversations. I
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  Speaker 1: am your host Rushan McDonald. Every Monday, you can see
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. My next guest day on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: I love these two people. May brother and sister due
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  Speaker 1: of Jake and Jazz Smolt are teaming up to transform
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  Speaker 1: the living, work and play spaces of millennial families. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's that's right. I got a millennial if she's twenty
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  Speaker 1: one years old, and so I got to hear this
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  Speaker 1: story out loud and clear TV's new lifestyle series Living
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  Speaker 1: by Design with Jake and Jazz. In this series, they
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  Speaker 1: create simple solutions to everyday design dilemmas for aspiring millennial families.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome back to money making conversations Jake and Jazz
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  Speaker 1: smaller energized this time, Jake, you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: last time time, Sean. This is early on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 1: this Los Angeles, this early, it's early. Well you the
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I'm big fans and uh and when
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  Speaker 1: I heard about this, uh, this millennial show, I like,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I got a twenty one year old, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and she got she got ideas. She doesn't have a
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't have a TV show, even want the TV.
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  Speaker 1: And she looks at everything on her phone and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she she has her own sense of what
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  Speaker 1: she wants to be. She lives on campus now and
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  Speaker 1: then she's back home for the summer because she's taking
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  Speaker 1: summer classes. So when you say the word millennial, what
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  Speaker 1: age group are you looking at in that range that
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  Speaker 1: you're focusing on your show? I believe millennial now like
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  Speaker 1: some of the younger kids are technically gen z or something. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you might have a gene. I don't know, you know
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  Speaker 1: how they start drawing the line. But I think like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the people that we're working with are
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  Speaker 1: like mid twenties and their thirties. I think like there, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they have like their apartments and they're you know,
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  Speaker 1: or they have a young family, or they're expecting a family,
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  Speaker 1: or they're single and just started their career, just took
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  Speaker 1: a shift in their careers or things like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that that's about right, because you know it goes from
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  Speaker 1: eighteen to thirty four. That's that that age range. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're hit you hitting that out of college. They got
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  Speaker 1: bills coming away, They got trouble coming their way, right right.
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  Speaker 1: So so this idea okay, because each one you have
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  Speaker 1: special skills and your brother and sisters. So we all
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  Speaker 1: know I have six sisters and have two brothers, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, we don't always agree. I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: great dynamic to have in the show. Tell me how
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  Speaker 1: the role plays out for you too. On this show,
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  Speaker 1: we found a good way to split up the work
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  Speaker 1: so we do I have our individual skills and to
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  Speaker 1: not overlap too much. But when it comes down to it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the box and so that's how it works out
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  Speaker 1: really well. I am the older one, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: just kidding. But the way that we do it is
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  Speaker 1: that we do a reveal meal at the end. Jake
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  Speaker 1: does a I do a design and a dessert for
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  Speaker 1: My focus is the overall design of the space and
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  Speaker 1: making a dessert for the reveal party. And Jake's focus
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  Speaker 1: is a build and a meal. So he makes the
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  Speaker 1: main course and he also builds a custom peace for
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  Speaker 1: um before eating faces that we're doing, or he refurbishes
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  Speaker 1: a piece. Okay, cool, now dessert you hit my you
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  Speaker 1: hit my home run list right there. Now, is any
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  Speaker 1: desserts from your book the Family Table or these are
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  Speaker 1: just desserts as outside of that book. There was People
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  Speaker 1: by the Way, I recommend that's my favorite book. That's
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  Speaker 1: how I met this this family here was through the book.
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  Speaker 1: Now you talk about desserts. I was asking you, is
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  Speaker 1: any or any of these desserts in the Family Table book?
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  Speaker 1: Some of them are, and then some of them are
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  Speaker 1: new ones I've developed or ones I've had from before. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I love making desserts. So there's a lot of different
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  Speaker 1: stuff there. We have sixteen different episodes, so a few
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  Speaker 1: of the episodes have desserts from the family table. I
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  Speaker 1: think the one that just aired, the one that just aired, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's in the family table. It was a chocolate uh
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  Speaker 1: flowerless chocolate cake. Yes, oh yes, oh yes, chocoholic. My
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  Speaker 1: wife loves chocolate. She loves chocolate. I see, I don't
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  Speaker 1: like chocolate people, but she loves chocolate. Make her that cake,
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  Speaker 1: just for no reason, Make that cake because see this this,
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  Speaker 1: see this past. You know, when he was on the
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  Speaker 1: show last I were talking about I made that which
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  Speaker 1: I love. The lobster roll. You know, I grew a
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  Speaker 1: lobster roll, favorite sandwich. They're awesome. Now, my wife, she
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  Speaker 1: came up two weeks ago. A week ago, she came
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  Speaker 1: in right before we went on our cruise. She said,
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  Speaker 1: what do you want? I said, well, can you make
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  Speaker 1: me some gumbo? She said our aversary and say, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: the family table. You go around the corner to the
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  Speaker 1: family dead was sitting on the counter. So she going there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so I so you know, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm country. Now you know I might be a successful
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  Speaker 1: financial Last deal take by lunches to work. I like
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  Speaker 1: real home launches, and so she made me. So I
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  Speaker 1: had my corn bread, I had my white rice, and
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  Speaker 1: I was taking my gumbo to work on two days
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  Speaker 1: in a row. Took my gun would work. Then then
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  Speaker 1: my wife from the look, I just sent my free
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  Speaker 1: schoolers to school with chicken. What I'm saying. What I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying that my wife will freeze everything. She freeze everything,
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  Speaker 1: freeze everything. Okay, so of course you went. I told
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  Speaker 1: my dogter, please don't make sure when I died, my
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  Speaker 1: my wife freeze me. Don't freeze me. Don't freeze me.
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  Speaker 1: And so, uh, that's a commitment that's in my wheel.
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  Speaker 1: Do not freeze me, because she freezes everything. And so
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  Speaker 1: I come back. I come back from the cruise in Alaska.
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  Speaker 1: You freeze everything. And so I come back from the
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  Speaker 1: cruise in Alaska. And so I said, I'm homeward. She said,
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  Speaker 1: I got some gumbo. I froze it. Bro I was
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  Speaker 1: one dollars happy. She froze and food, I mean some
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  Speaker 1: crackers and some white rice. Then and thought out that
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  Speaker 1: gumbo and the microwade. Oh my gosh, hey, what happened
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  Speaker 1: with my phone? Well, I'm tasting man. We've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about this gumbo that my wife froze. That when she unfrozen,
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  Speaker 1: it was taste better than when the first time she
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  Speaker 1: gave it to me. Live man out the family table,
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  Speaker 1: filled out the family table. Now it's the funny part
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  Speaker 1: before before you got cut off there, sir, she was
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  Speaker 1: talking about how she was running things. She was the
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  Speaker 1: oldest and you gave that a little lad And she
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  Speaker 1: told me that, uh, the episode that just aired. She
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  Speaker 1: you know they used the chocolate flower with his cake. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: that was the air the episode had just recently aired.
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  Speaker 1: Because she doesn't she doesn't dessert. Yeah, and so she
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  Speaker 1: gumbo pasta. Let somebody. These two people in this phone, um,
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  Speaker 1: they know how to cook, so you know, come time
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  Speaker 1: to tell you. So I get a lot of interview
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  Speaker 1: a lot of cooks, and I actually get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of cookbooks on the show. And see I'm one of
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  Speaker 1: the people. I actually you know, I'm a baker or
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  Speaker 1: winning baker. And I'm also a homegrown cooker from the
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  Speaker 1: southeastern Texas, you know, Fifth War neighborhood boy, so little
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  Speaker 1: Louise out in my background. So so I know how
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  Speaker 1: to throw down. So so when books come my way.
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  Speaker 1: And this is just just being honest and about what
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  Speaker 1: they have in that book. It's a very easy book.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about the Family Table. The family Table, the
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  Speaker 1: entire family is on the cover, and uh, it's easy
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  Speaker 1: and so it's it's uh the food is uh diverse
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  Speaker 1: when I'm talking about it's just a range of different items.
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  Speaker 1: The desserts are easy to make. And it's one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite books. And I just want to let everybody
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  Speaker 1: know that I my wife uses it and uh, I
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  Speaker 1: let my daughter cook out of it. And so it's
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  Speaker 1: a family experience and that's why I like it because
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  Speaker 1: anybody in my family, everybody my family has experienced cooking
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  Speaker 1: from that book. And it's called The Family Table. You
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  Speaker 1: guys have done a tremendous job on putting that book together.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to uh, Jake and Jazz all that. There's
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  Speaker 1: the stars of new show Living by Design that airs
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  Speaker 1: on Cleo TV every noon every on Saturday, every Saturday noontime.
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  Speaker 1: They've taped sixteen episodes. Now I always tell people when
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  Speaker 1: you do that many episodes, there's there's there's your favorite.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying both of you have the
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  Speaker 1: same favorite episode. But what episode really said, Wow, that
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  Speaker 1: that that that this is why I do what I do.
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  Speaker 1: Starting with you, Jake. One of my favorites was a
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  Speaker 1: new couple, UM, Lisa and Tyler, and they've been together
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  Speaker 1: for ten years and there's seven and nine so high
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  Speaker 1: school sweetheart. Um, they finally got their own place. You
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  Speaker 1: just proposed to her and he comes from living with
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  Speaker 1: roommates and she comes from living with family. So it
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  Speaker 1: was nice, you know, a young black couple starting out, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and get to see them really get all the things
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  Speaker 1: they needed more it right and it really has this
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  Speaker 1: bohemian vibe and that really really kills that design, and
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  Speaker 1: that was a really really fun one. So that's one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite. But I mean, yeah, when you do sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: you have a relationship with all the absolutely, absolutely absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, like I say, I've done production and
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  Speaker 1: I know certain things are certain scripts, I've written, a
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  Speaker 1: certain actors, I've met, a certain everything has I always
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  Speaker 1: you the script birth, say, the production grows it in
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  Speaker 1: the editing in the editing room gives it life. And
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  Speaker 1: so these experiences, especially especially in the you know in
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  Speaker 1: the world that we live in the reality. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're a real person. You're not playing a personal TV.
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  Speaker 1: they feel that, hey, they took the time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jazz and Jake took down to make my
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  Speaker 1: I come from a big family, six sisters, two brothers.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him this weekend, you know, was eating food,
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  Speaker 1: eat the barbecue, alright, but little nephew here that little
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  Speaker 1: Not college, yes, but you know, early twenties to mid twenties.
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  Speaker 1: I had no faith background. I would fluctuate between eight
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  Speaker 1: My mom would take me to a Baptist church and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I personally, as a young kid, I saw a lot
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: of hypocrisy. God, That's what really kept me away from it.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Fast forward, my brother, he had became a Christian UH
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: in his early twenties, and he would he would always
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: tell me, Remy, when you hit rock bottom, just remember
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: cryos of Jesus. You're trying everything enohing prior to Jesus.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And at twenty six, I kind of, you know, I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: hit rock bottom. They were there, you know, going to
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: be telling my book, but you know I was struggling
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: with it. I had it all on outside. I was
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a davy seal, a girlfriends all over the place. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: had money. I had a beautiful place in San Diego, California,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: but on the inside, I just I was empty, and uh,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I was stattling with depression. I was battling went to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a bad break up, battling with guilt from decisions that
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I made, and I just I just cried out. Like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: my brother told me to. I said, let me try
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: this Jesus out it. And I did. And that's what
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: was the X factor for me. And that's what changed
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: my life to transformed me ultimately into into the man
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I am today. And what type of man is that? Uh? Well, well,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: one a man of a man of faith, a man
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: who puts Christ first. And uh. And everything I do
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and what I mean by that in my decision making, um,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: as it relates to to my businesses, and my decision
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: making as it relates to me being a husband and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and honoring my wife, and and being being a father
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and honoring my kids and and leading by example. Uh,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's just just in everything that I do.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with speaking to Remy the Lek.
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  Speaker 1: His new book, Transformed, is the personal journey that he
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: took from the streets of the Bronx to become a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Navy seal, actor, entrepreneur, writer, husband and father. Now when
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: we when we talk about this journey in your book
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: transformed what was the purpose of writing that book? You know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of layers in that book and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: actually you can like stayed on one part and I've
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: just been because the Navy Seal was a whole book.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that the whole, the whole
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Getting out of the Hood is a whole book. You know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the educational factor there, the relationship with your wife, that's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different chapters, but you managed
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to put it all in this book. Why well, you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: for years, people who had heard my story, just just
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the African part of my story going from royalty and
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: riches in Africa to being stripped of everything and and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: then moving to the bo honks and being poor and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that's living in that street life. People who just heard
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that part of my story would tell me whether you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: need to write a book. Their story is inspiring and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: can inspire people. And for you, as I said, no,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that because being a naked seal,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: there's a stigma attached the seals. You write books and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: as you know, you kind of break the code, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I never you know, I had a great reputation and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the seal teams that did seven and a half years
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: UM and the thirteen years overall in all of the military,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and I didn't want to want to, you know, hurt
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: my my my reputation, and so I avoided that until
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I went on to Today's show. Was I was in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the poultical Transformers and I wasn't it enough to be
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: part of the press tour, and I went on it today.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I went on a Today's Show and after one went backstage,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Captain to Giffert said to me, you know you could
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: get the story is just to inspiring with me. You
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: need to write a book. And I told her no,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and she and I told her why, and she said
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that foolish. I know your heart. I know your your
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: heart would be to write a book in a way
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: to inspire pop instipation and people. And when she said
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that to me, that's when a switch went off in
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: my head. And that's when I said, Okay, I need
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: to do this because I know it won't be about
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: me beating my chest and say hey look at me,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I'm a Navy sealing This I know it would be
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for me to inspire people to reach for their dreams,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: reach for their goals despite the odds that they may
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: be fasting on the deficiencies that they may have as
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it relates to their dreams. Now, you mentioned the movie
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: The Transformers last night. That was the movie played in
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and you've you've, you've started to carve out an acting career.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Was that the goals or that's just one of the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: many blessings that by having strong faith and being uh,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: being purposely driven. I considered that type of personality I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: took away from the book You're focused person. You know
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: you you plan, your your your You're a man of
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: plan and a man of action. Absolutely. You know. For me,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I wasn't tasting. It wasn't part of my plan. If
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I was actually grad spookinging my master's when I received
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the phone call. My plan was to get my education
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and going to full time consulting as a business consultant.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And I was, you know, writing papers in my phone
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: ring or the other end of the line was a
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: woman who worked with director Michael Baine. She asked me
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing the borrow and I said, I'm like paper.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: She said, come down to the book. He said, I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: gotta moue for you to be in. So that's kind
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of how my my film and TV and slow that down. Now,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: how did you get into a major movie? Going back
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: back then up there? You you missed some steps that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you ass and Burger key if my computed that at
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the universities come to West Virginia and what happened? You
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: know this lady she Michael Day. He likes he likes
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to use real Navy seals and some of his films,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, there's not that many African Americans.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: In fact, there's less per than one per cent of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the Special Operations Communities Act American. I was around the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: fifty of Navy seal in the history of the Seal teams,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and his Seal Teams was creative nineteen sixty two. Um,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: so Michael Day was looking for some diversity in the film.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: He wanted a former Navy seal who was African Americans
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to be a partner of the film. And I just
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: happen to be that and and and and you know
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that's when one of the casting um women reached out
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to me. And that's how I got into it. But
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: so what I'm hearing is that he is a man
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: who failed over and over again. Then he used those
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: lessons of failure to transform, that transformed him to be
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the man he is today. That's a man who's who
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: was admitted flaws, which I always tell people, But you
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: don't admit a flaw, that's a that's a problem because
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you're seeking perfection, which is impossible. So if you're seeking
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: every possibility, then guess what comes into your life frustration?
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And if you're a frustrated person, guess what. Don't nobody
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: want to be around a frustrated person. Nobody want a
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: champion of frustrated person. So so what is your message?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: What is your message for young people who may be
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: struggling out there today? Uh, you know, you know, don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: get caught up in this concept of everything should happen
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: right now. I want young people to realize that things
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: take time. As she said, I you went through seal
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: training twice. That sounds you know, me saying that may
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: not sound like a long time. But we're talking from
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the time I started training to be a seal to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the time I finally graduated from steal training. We're talking
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three to two thousand and seven. That's
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: four years of constant day in and day out glinding.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: But you don't see that, you can see the end results.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I want young people to realize that you gotta put
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in the work and it's not gonna happen overnight. You
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: got to show up every single day and that's how
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you you achieve what you want to achieve and what
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: what is it that you want to achieve? Really now,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I mean it changes the old time. Well, uh, well,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: now you know I you know, I've got the book out,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: so obviously I want that to be successful, which is
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: being very successful uh to uh you know, you know
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: now moving you know, I'm a writer producer now in Hollywood.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: You know I've been. I'm in even from an answer
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to a writer producer in Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah, man. I've
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: been talking with the major studio right now to option
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: of in my book and option a screenplay I wrote
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and some other projects. So I'm gonna talk to kind
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of set up an overall deal flash of our first
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: look deal with a major studio. I'm still taking other
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: offers that people want to throw me some offers. I'll
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: entertain them. That's that's Santell a day is uh, getting
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that production company off the ground and just putting out
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: amazing inspirational stories and a lot of black stories as well.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm writing a film now about one of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the first groups of African Americans to serve in special
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: operations and the story that that you know, it's hidden,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it's like a hidden figure story. But these are probably
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: one of the first groups of guys to serving Special Forces.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: No one knows this story. So as a guy who
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was in Special Forces and you know, I'm telling that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: story now. So so that's that's what my next goal
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: in life is getting these amazing stories out um via
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: film and TV. Well, I would just saying this, first
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of all, you unique, okay, you know and that kid
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that and you're special because of the fact that you've
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you you crossed the uncharted waters when you started with
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a number of African American men who and we look
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a him. Man, you gotta tell this story who started
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: because we know there's racism at every level and when
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you when you when you're the first day, when you
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: first did, it's worse because guess what, they don't want
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: anybody to break cold break, to break the new members
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of the club and I'm not saying anything, and that's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: just life that happens in any environment, you know, all right,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and so, but I just want to let you know
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I know we kept hitting and missing and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: coming on the show and getting the time right, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I wanted to show you respect and say
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I really want to jeel my show. I'm glad we
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: was able to schedule list. And I read your book
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm inspired by your book, and I just wanted
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: anybody who reads this book Transformed to just value what
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he did and used the same values and failures and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: successes and let you know that you can do it too.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on my show, man, Thank you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: for having me on the show. I appreciate you, my brother,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: all right. As I told earlier, if my mail mailing
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: lists went out today, it goes out to fans, and uh,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you can click the buy button in that newsletter and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you can buy his book Transform. The kids are asking
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  Speaker 1: what to get you for Father's Day. Your son suggested
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  Speaker 1: a World's Greatest Dad T shirt and the girl's going
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  Speaker 1: with a pony pony sweet. Seriously, what can the kids
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  Speaker 1: get you? You know what I'd really love that baseball
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: card collection, your mom threw out. No, well, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: you know how I've been working late and traveling more. Yeah, well,
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• 29:14
  Speaker 1: My next guest because she's on the phone and this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: West Coast time. Over the course of the past year
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: hasn't undergone a series of major transitions. She departed ESPN
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: after nearly twelve years and now is a senior staff
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: writer at The Atlantic. Started large a large freeway media
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and got engaged to the love of her life. We
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: gotta talk about that because I sold pictures on social
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: media because I followed her, you know, and please welcome
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to money making conversation, Emmy Award winning journalists and a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: huge social media influencer. Jamil Hill. Yeah, what an introduction. Well,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: when I'm a fan, you do that when you're a fan,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and then you know, I like to say, everybody not
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: getting oversha McDonald's I go oh Tuesday, I said that,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: can I get Jamil Hell I've been a and of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: yours for a long time. You mean you don't know
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that you know, you don't know. I did not know that,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: but that that definitely is very humbling. So I really
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. So thank you because your talents, you have
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: a point of view, and that that's what that's what
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: inspires my relationship with you, because of the fact from
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: a from a fault, because this is the first time
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: we have spoken, and what drives that point of view
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to say, you have an opinion and you want to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: let other people understand where you stand. Is that important
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to you? Well, it is important. Um, of course, some
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of this depends on what it is you plan to say,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and I think it's something that just evolves over time.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think as soon as you come out the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: womb you automatically have an opinion. Your opinion is gained
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: through life experience, through UM adversity, UM challenges, UM and
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: even successes. And so that's kind of where my opinion
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: has always kind of come to fruition. And I think
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it's you know, a lot of it is determined based
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: off how you've lived and where you home. I mean
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: from the city of betrayed it's a very gritty, tough city.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of the toughness and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the grit and the determination that I have has been
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: formed based off where I grew up and how I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: grew up, and so all of that informs my perspective,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and I think it's important to share it just because
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: there are other people who come from backgrounds that they
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: can relate to. Um, you know when they look at yours.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And so sometimes when you come from a certain background,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you feel as if you shouldn't be heard or don't
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: deserve to be heard. And so I'd like to think, um,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: some example that you know, everybody deserves to be heard.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That it's only it's not a certain type of person
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: who has a certain comes from a certain place. I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: don't those people who are to have an opinion and
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: make their mark in this world. Yeah, to be avitability,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to be able to right, to be able to articulate,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and being a female in a male dominated business now
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: being a ESPN for twoever years, I mean you have
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: to start in in an environment that mail dominated, even
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: email dominated today. So what is it important that you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: find your voice? That was in sports? Now you find
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: your voice? And I feel in a much more universal
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: platform because you talk about politics, start about fashion, you
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: talk about entertainment, you talk about sports. Even though you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: cut your teeth on that, what is what is the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: voice you're trying to uh, I guess articulate on the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: daily basis on your podcast. Well, one thing I'm really
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: grateful about is when I got to ESPN in November
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: two thousand and six. It was after I had already
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: been a sports journalist for almost a decade. So I
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: came in there with a strong sense of who I was, um,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the type of content I wanted to produce, and what
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I was about. And so I went there kind of
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: at a at a perfect age. And once I was there,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I was able to take all the things that I
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: learned and um, you know, learn the value of how
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to distribute that content on different platforms. You know, I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: came in to ESPN, it's just to print newspaper report game.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: When I left, my skill set was just so much
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: different because even though you know what I was saying
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and who I was, that hadn't really changed. But by
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the time I left, I had been a sports inner anchor,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I've had a podcast already, um, had done digital stuff,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: you know, doing daily television, been a writer on a
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: on a digital platform, so I took all of that
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: once I left. Now I'm in a new iteration in
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: my career and so that's why I'm able to use
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: my content in different ways. I'm a writer for The
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Atlantic Publication that I've always loved and had read for
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: many years before i started writing for him. Doing the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: podcast on Spotify. I've already had a podcast at USP
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and soup bringing that experience there and like would have
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I had an idea in a sense of
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the type of podcast I wanted to do going into it,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and so um, a lot of it is just me
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: kind of developing into a utility, you know, player to
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: use a sp its term. And I tell young people
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: all the time, the method which we deliver things will
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: always change. The technology is always going to change. But
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that's why you have to have a foundation of understanding
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: what your core skills are. If you want to be
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a journalist, you have to number one, be curious and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: two you have to know how to report. Those two
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: things will not change. It doesn't matter if you're getting
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: your message out, um, you know, be a bull be
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a bullhorn, or if you're doing it on a platform
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: like you have. So uh, it just is a matter
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  Speaker 1: of to me adaptation. And so now with my podcast,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to do is just down with interesting people, um,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: people who have something to say, compelling people. And I
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: always say I always say to people that, like everybody
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: who's on my podcast are not people that I have
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: necessarily agree with. Some people I think that's what makes
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: it interesting. Um, they just have to have something to say.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And UM, my only rule that I ever had for
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: it is that I don't capitulate the stupid. So, um,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: there's one thing to have a different opinion, there's the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: one thing, and another thing to have a stupid, unimportant opinion.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to sit down with people, hear what
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: they have to say, get their backstory, and figure out
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: what made them them. Well that's interesting because um when
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I when I hear you and when I watched you
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: on ESPN, I always got there the feeling you was creative.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: You know, you use a creative person especialized to watch
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the promos when you're in Michael Hope, we're hosting What's
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and they were very entertainment, they were very organic to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: your personality. So now when I look at the you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it's the the Atlantic magazine, Atlantic magazine that you're not
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: covering coverage politics, culture, technology, health and more and podcast videos,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and that's a lot. And I think that you're you're
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you're following your you're in an area now and your
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: personality and your career where guess what, all the tentacles
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: can start being tapped. But the amazing thing about when
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you when you talk to a person like Jamil Hill
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and you look at the brand that she's developing and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the career that she's had, it's really really allows you
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to be this unique situation. So who who are? What
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: is your top five? Let's go go to the heart
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of this conversation. I don't really care what comments said,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody say. Who is your top five?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: So we get this all. We're gonna put this on
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: my social media, Jamil top five? M what do you say? No? No,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: now you put you Now you're putting like a little
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: little woman, look uh saying by qualified. There you go
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: see she's a writer. I just had a way. She
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: gonna throw the word out for me. She could be
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a game show up. Qualified. Yes, thank you, Jamil so
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: my top five, and I emphasized my, not yours. So
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: because people when you say top five, the like what
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: about says if it was about such, such, such and
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: such would be it's not top five, right right right right,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: right right right, it's not jay Z Big and black thought. Okay,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: So so Tupac ain't nowhere. No, it's not. Tupac ain't nowhere.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Party politics, sex, Tupac ain't nowhere. See. See that's how
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: that's how you get in the fights on the corner. Really, Hey,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: they can ask me, debate me whatever if we if
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you asked me to insulted me on Spotify on bothered
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: on Spotify by Spotify, that's her show. So you call
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: her get that point of view. But she allows us
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to have a person out. Now it's a couple of
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: guests on this show that that. When I saw the list,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I went Cat Williams and then I saw Stacy Abrams.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: That's an extreme as a African American woman who wore
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: ran for almost became the next governor, but lost to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Brian Kemp in his last goodmatorial election. Okay, so how
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: do you how do you have a conversation between Cat
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: will you They didn't have another conversation with Stacy Abrams
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: well as I said that, you know, the number one
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: thing you have to do is is be interesting. That's
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: so that's what attracts me to having certain people on.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And this is part of my twenty one years experienced
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: as a journalist. I've interviewed all manner of people. I know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: mostly I've been primarily in sports, but I've interviewed all
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: manner of athletes, from high school athletes UM to Lebron
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: James to a number of different people, all with different stories,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: from different backgrounds, a different collage of people. And it's
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: no different when you step outside of sports. Obviously, Stacy Abrams,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: she's the first black woman UH to be to be
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the gym, to be a nominee for governor, to win
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: her party's nominee for governor. UM. You know, there's a
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: lot of people who followed the news though that there
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: was a lot of over suppression going to Georgia, a
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: lot of murkey circumstances around her laws and UM, she
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: has a testimony and you want to find out that
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: somebody who suffers that kind of setback, how do they
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: go on from there? And her career in life was
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: like an interesting thing about her and maybe some people
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: can know this is that she's actually written I think,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: uh six um kind of romance novels. So she's a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: novelist and she writes under assumed him and I thought
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that was, you know, very interesting and cast. He's got
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of layers to him, and that's one of
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the most interesting people that I've ever talked to. Uh.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: You know, he left home when he was thirteen, and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: he left because he just wanted to leave. And as
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: he told me on my podcast, he saw that Jesus
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: said he was a man at thirty three, and so
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: he thought he was a man that could leave. So um.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's just these people who I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: think have very interesting stories um that happened maybe been
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: put out there in the way that that I you know,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I have been able to put them out there, especially
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: because the podcast. The great thing about it and you
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: know this, you know with your show here, it's an
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: infinite environment and you're talking to one person and it's
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: just you two, and I think that allows people to really,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you know, really open up. I have one dropping today
• 40:30
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• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Bowl champion and Marcellis bed Is. He is crazy, but
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: he's crazy smart. He's a genius. I mean, he's got
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: a great book out direct that young black boys who
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: need to hear that they can be something other than
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: entertainers and athletes. And so he just puts the profile
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of the type of person that I think people would
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: really enjoy hearing from. Awesome speaking to you, Uh, Jamil Hill.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: He has a new Spot five podcast called Jabel hill
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Is Unbothered with drops new episodes every Monday and Thursday
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: at six pm Easter Standard time. You know it's amazing.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: She's too too. Co hosts on the show, right, I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: do um uh. In fact, as soon as we get
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: up the phone, I'm gonna get ready and go in
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna take a podcast that will air next week.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Michael Arsenal and Cole Wildly and for sports fans, Cold
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Wildly fathers Ralph Wildly, who was definitely a big influence
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on my career. He's the first black person I saw
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: on the sports reporters. And Michael Arsenal, who the New
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: York Times step selling author who has a great book
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I was called I Can't Date Jesus. Well, my my, my,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: my friend. I'm I call you my friend because I've
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: been following you and everything. I know you. I know
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: you've been engaged. I saw your picture. I was happy
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: for you. You know you have a balanced life now.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: But more importantly, it's to me. I'm telling you, I
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: got to do the top five on my social media.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna share her. Okay, and let's let the world know.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Rashawn's top five. We're gonna down. Okay,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm prepared to defend my top five, So get about it, Okay,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: say I love her. She's one of the people may
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: you can do get out, you know, verbally in a
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: in a in a public place and she go whatever, whatever, dude,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: ain't scared of you. You know, I love her. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: love her again. She's amazing. Um, I got on my
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: show for the first time. I hope she comes back.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: An amazing podcast. Ja mill Hill is Unbothered on Spotify.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: It's a Spotify podcast. She dropped new episodes every Monday
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and Thursday six pm. Thank you for coming to my show.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate you and know that I have mad
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: love for you. Okay, all right, well, thank you. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: appreciate you having me and then love. Keep winning, y'all,
• 42:39
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• 43:53
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• 43:56
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• 43:58
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• 44:00
  Speaker 1: People see fire, they're gonna call those police. They definitely
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: will come over and hugging aintybody hugging nobody on fire.
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• 44:13
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• 44:15
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• 44:17
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• 44:20
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  Speaker 1: for my listeners to enjoy. Don Yelle winning Ham, Good morning,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: How are you doing there? And what city are you
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: calling from? I'm actually calling them from Houston this morning. Okay,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: that's my hometown. Now, Now what are you doing in Houston, Texas?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Now what are you doing in Houston taking? How long
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: are you gonna be there? Because we need to talk
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: about places to go eat? I'm gonna be here for
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a while. I actually live here now Okay, yeah, that's
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that's my one of my favorite conversations. Places that don't eat. Okay, cool.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Now I have a home still in Houston, so this
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: is good. So we can connect the dots here along
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the line. So how long have you been in Houston?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to the whole conversation. I kind
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, we have two breaks. I like
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: my fans to get to know the individuals who I'm
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: talking to, and we create relationship. So the information doesn't
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: feel forced. It feels like it's coming from a place
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that's authentic. So when did you move to Houston. I've
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: been in Houston for twenty plus years now and we've
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: never met. So now, you know what. I spent my
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: time in corporate America right right, so recently I didn't
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: know anybody outside of the corporate sector. What I would
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: tell you this, I've been out of Houston. You know,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I still have a home there. I have home over
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: there in a spring branch across the Memorial or a
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Memorial area. I have a home over there, and so
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: that's where I worked. Okay, cool? See we well, we're
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: getting too close now, We're getting really close. And so
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: so when I when I look at success, tell me
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: your top three foodie places in Houston. I'm gonna find out.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Chief real here, I'm find out. I'm fine if we're
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: gonna you know, top three, miss winning Ham. My top
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: three is Mickey Soul Food Cafe that circu Leighood. What
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: number three is? Wow? Number three is tight people ahead
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and say food. See two of those places I've never
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: been to Esther Soul Food and what's a Mickey's. Okay,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get that information from you because
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I love to eat. And what I do is I
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: have to thing. I have this format on my website
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and social media called Rushawn's Eats, and these are the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: favorite places I go and I recommend that just you know,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I don't you know there there are no fees. I
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: just promote and say, hey, go check out this restaurant
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and to go to just a favorite place in Houston.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: So there was are two places that I need to
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: know about that you told me about and in Houston.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: And I am a native Houston. I was boring to Houston,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: with the high school in Houston, with the college in Houston.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I got married in Houston. I still live in Houston
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and also live in Atlanta, Georgia. Now you're on my show,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and it's called something called the Leading America's Leading Quit
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Coach q U I T coach. What is that? So
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: a quick coach is somebody that helps you transition because
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you don't just quit your job, because you can't just
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: quit your bills, right right, So it's a process to
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: be able to take your marketable skills from whatever you do,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: whatever you know how to do, and turn that into
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: something that you can sell in the world at large.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: To be able to have the freedom to quit your job.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Now we said a freedom to quit your job, what
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: does that mean. I'm just just trying to just spell
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: it out the fruit. Like I said, I'm because I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: might have an example of myself quitting the job, and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how how it affected me. And
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: then I found myself having to go back to work.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: So and that's why the transition is so important. With Shawn,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I was a vice president and JP Morgan Chase. I
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: left Chase a day before my sixteenth year anniversary. I
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: spent four years before I left Chase building my income
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: up so that it matched my check so that when
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I left, I didn't have to ever go back. And
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that's the importance of the transition. You can't step out
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: people say, oh, I'm gonna step out on face. No,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: you're gonna step out on broke I love already. I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: get so mad when I hear that we're stepping out
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: on faith. Yeah, we need to step out on money, right,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: And so when you step out with a plan that's
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: already operational that you don't have to worry about going back,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you can take your additional time freedom and scale your
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: business up from where you are, because it's really interesting.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I always tell people about wealth to talk about finances,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And one thing I learned is that when I when
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I made a transition of my life to walk away
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: from a financial successful partnership, I thought I would not
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: work again. But then what I didn't realize is that
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I liked the lifestyle that I was in. So I
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: was stopping. I was still trying to when no income coming,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like it was, I was still doing what I was doing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: First class tickets, limo service, you know, Taylor shoes, Taylor clothes.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: That realized, you know, something happen when you're in a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: big house. The taxes don't change, the electricity bill don't change,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the Verizon bill don't change. Then that's when people forget
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: when they when they say IM gonna walk away, well
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: you're gonna walk away. There certain things you can't walk
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: away from if you're not downsizing. M I had no
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: plans on downside. And so guess what the quick coach
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I should have called her first, because you said, now,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: let me let me use let me use me use me.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: As an example, Okay, here's a guy you know successful.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm out. I'm gonna spend time with my family.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I'm relaxed. I got two houses. Wasn't selling no house,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't selling no car. What mistakes were I was was
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I making or was I making any mistakes? And then
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: had hadn't playing on making it working for anybody ever Again,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: So the biggest mistake people make with SWAN is that
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: they don't monetize what's in their hands. We do a lot,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: but we don't expect revenue in return. See, I never
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: realized my five hustle could have freed me a long
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: time ago, had I've been as serious about my side
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: hustle as I was about my job. People put eight, nine,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: ten hours a day into their jobs, but they don't
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: put that level of time into their business. And so
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: what happens is your business always ends up on the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: losing end. And besides that, we don't know how to
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: monetize everything we do, every bit of its science, we
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: give out, every bit of support we give one sure
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of business that has to be monthetized. Walmart is not
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: handing out free bags to the grocery just because. And
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: so when we don't monetize our gifts and talents, we
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: end up working for somebody who will Well, it's all right.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: First of all, it's all right to work for somebody,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: but let me go. Don't get that cool. But writing
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: the book, myself and I talked about that you have
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: before they all weak people, and you have the seventy
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: all weak people. These are two different people before they
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: all weak people. There's a plan of success. You need
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to understand how you can be successful within that window.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: The people who want more than forty hours, that's a
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: different breed of people. That's that's what I'm talking on
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the phone right now. She's a forty hour week person
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: and she's letting you know that, which I totally agree.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: If you apply the same eight hours of work that
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you're doing in a forty hour week to your dream,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: really apply those same hours, then you can be successful
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