Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Twitter Took Secret Actions Against Conservatives to SILENCE THEIR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS for years!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Forget shadow banning. That is what many conservatives thought were
- 0:04Speaker 1: happening to them on Twitter, and I'm sure now at Facebook,
- 0:08Speaker 1: Google and YouTube, well now we are have been vindicated.
- 0:13Speaker 1: For years and years, conservatives like myself have said that
- 0:18Speaker 1: we have been shadow band What does shadow banning mean?
- 0:21Speaker 1: It means, yes, you're on a platform like Twitter, but
- 0:23Speaker 1: you don't really exist. Your tweets aren't shown to other people,
- 0:27Speaker 1: and it is impossible for what you tweet out to
- 0:30Speaker 1: actually go viral. In other words, they're saying, we don't
- 0:33Speaker 1: like what you're saying, so we're gonna suppress what you're saying.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Big tree falls in the forest, no one's around. Did
- 0:40Speaker 1: it actually make a sound? We'll forget shadow banning. It
- 0:45Speaker 1: was worse than what we even thought. Now Twitter we
- 0:49Speaker 1: know had an entire blacklist, and I am assuming, based
- 0:54Speaker 1: on what we have seen over the last twenty four hours,
- 0:56Speaker 1: that I and many other conservatives are on the list.
- 1:02Speaker 1: The second installment of the Twitter files revealing Twitter's secret blacklists,
- 1:08Speaker 1: was dropped on Thursday night. Not too long after taking
- 1:11Speaker 1: over Twitter, billionaire Elon Muss pledged to release the documents
- 1:16Speaker 1: showing how under the company's previous ownership Twitter engaged in
- 1:21Speaker 1: the suppression of free speech. These ree documents are now
- 1:25Speaker 1: referred to as the quote Twitter files. We have known
- 1:30Speaker 1: now for quite some time that conservatives went from having
- 1:34Speaker 1: the normal ability to reach people to being completely silenced
- 1:39Speaker 1: on the platform. We saw big stories that were silenced.
- 1:44Speaker 1: We saw big things like the Hunter Biden laptop story
- 1:47Speaker 1: be banned from being able to be used and even
- 1:49Speaker 1: shared in private messaging. We saw Twitter, and we know
- 1:52Speaker 1: this for a fact now they treated people that shared
- 1:55Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden story the same way they treated people
- 1:57Speaker 1: who shared child pornography. That's how much they were tipping
- 2:01Speaker 1: the scales. Now Elon Musk has just tweeted out that
- 2:06Speaker 1: quote Twitter is working on a software update that will
- 2:09Speaker 1: show your true accounts status, so you know clearly if
- 2:14Speaker 1: you've been shadow band This is going to rock the
- 2:20Speaker 1: world because you're going to see just how much the
- 2:24Speaker 1: information was being suppressed by big tech. Now, not only
- 2:29Speaker 1: did Elon Musk's pledge to release the documents, but we're
- 2:33Speaker 1: now getting names. These files have been shared with two
- 2:36Speaker 1: independent journalists. We saw the first installment that came out
- 2:42Speaker 1: on December the second, and it covered details surrounding Twitter
- 2:45Speaker 1: suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop scandal. In his first
- 2:49Speaker 1: tweet of the Twitter Files Part two, this journalist White
- 2:53Speaker 1: revealed that the entire teams of Twitter employees actually put
- 2:57Speaker 1: together their own blacklists and in order to suppress and
- 3:00Speaker 1: shadow bann the reach of certain accounts, virtually all of
- 3:04Speaker 1: them conservative. Something of shadow banning, again, is the practice
- 3:08Speaker 1: of suppressing a user on a platform, or a user
- 3:13Speaker 1: and the information that they're putting out there. It's that simple, Twitter,
- 3:18Speaker 1: What they were doing was actually much worse than that.
- 3:20Speaker 1: This was no, by the way, small operation or some
- 3:23Speaker 1: rogue employee. There are lists and lists and lists, blacklists
- 3:28Speaker 1: of whole groups of people who Twitter simply decided to
- 3:32Speaker 1: crush and liberal. Former New York Times reporter Why says
- 3:36Speaker 1: that politics was driving at least part of the operation,
- 3:40Speaker 1: if not all of it. Let me give you an example.
- 3:44Speaker 1: One such blacklist user was a Stanford professor. This professor
- 3:50Speaker 1: had argued that COVID lockdowns were incredibly detrimental to young children,
- 3:56Speaker 1: an argument that later turned out to be one hundred
- 3:58Speaker 1: percent correct. Because of this, the professor was put on
- 4:02Speaker 1: a Trends blacklist, which suppressed the reach of all of
- 4:06Speaker 1: his tweets indefinitely. This essentially prevented this professor from ever
- 4:11Speaker 1: trending and the truth that he was telling or the
- 4:14Speaker 1: questions he was asking from being seen by the masses. Additionally,
- 4:20Speaker 1: we now know that Life's revealed that conservative talk shows
- 4:23Speaker 1: Dan biden Gino, a friend of mine, had also been
- 4:26Speaker 1: placed on a search blacklist. What is a search blacklist?
- 4:30Speaker 1: It means that you could search for him, but you
- 4:32Speaker 1: couldn't find him. We also now know that conservative activists,
- 4:36Speaker 1: also a friend of mine, Charlie Kirk, had been placed
- 4:39Speaker 1: on a do not Amplify amplify blacklist after he became
- 4:43Speaker 1: one of the most engaging Twitter accounts on the entire platform.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I want you to hear, by the way, what Dan
- 4:51Speaker 1: Bongino had to say to Sean Hannity reacting to the
- 4:56Speaker 1: news that he was put on a blacklist where you
- 4:58Speaker 1: couldn't find him. And by the way, when he saying this,
- 5:01Speaker 1: for years people said he was a kuk, a conspiracy theorists,
- 5:04Speaker 1: a crazy and nut job. Back to his words here,
- 5:08Speaker 1: and he said, the media is complicit and they were
- 5:11Speaker 1: lying to the American public. They spent a total of
- 5:14Speaker 1: seven seconds this weekend on the Sunday programs talking about
- 5:18Speaker 1: this huge story that broke last Friday, or Elon Musk
- 5:23Speaker 1: himself saying, if you shut down dissenting voices, it is,
- 5:28Speaker 1: by its very definition, election interference. He even admitted that
- 5:34Speaker 1: Twitter was acting as the propaganda arm of the Democratic
- 5:39Speaker 1: Party in this election. Election interference. Now we're not even
- 5:43Speaker 1: including Meadow or Facebook called Zuckerberg. We're not including Google,
- 5:48Speaker 1: we're not including Apple, we're not including YouTube. And I
- 5:52Speaker 1: think that Congress needs to demand that they become as
- 5:56Speaker 1: transparent as Elon Musk has been come here, and I
- 6:00Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit for this. Yeah, listen
- 6:04Speaker 1: um to Elon Musk. I don't know if you're watching
- 6:07Speaker 1: or not, but if you see it later, just a
- 6:10Speaker 1: heartfelt thank you. You know, I was talking to our
- 6:13Speaker 1: good friend Mark Levin before and his great radio show
- 6:17Speaker 1: and already said the same thing. Regardless of yeah, thank um,
- 6:21Speaker 1: you know, Sean, regardless of what happens, we look forward. Dan.
- 6:24Speaker 1: You gotta love Mark. He's the best guest. He's the
- 6:26Speaker 1: only one that tells you that's it, I'm done, go ahead.
- 6:30Speaker 1: I know. Hell when he's when you're when you're called
- 6:32Speaker 1: the great one, you can do that kind of Stuff's
- 6:34Speaker 1: why you know you get heart of Mark. But when
- 6:36Speaker 1: Elon Musk, you know, well, regardless of what happens, he
- 6:39Speaker 1: may lose legitimately may lose billions of dollars on this acquisition.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I think he's a creative guy,
- 6:45Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna build this thing out to
- 6:47Speaker 1: be something special. But he has done a service to
- 6:49Speaker 1: this country. He had He has literally, not figuratively, changed
- 6:54Speaker 1: the history of I think how big tech is going
- 6:56Speaker 1: to operate moving forward. He's exposed one key point. I
- 6:59Speaker 1: want the audio. It's understandings that what the press did
- 7:02Speaker 1: to collude and interfere and potentially fleeced the twenty twenty
- 7:06Speaker 1: election away from Donald Trump based on based on solid
- 7:10Speaker 1: data a polling taken afterwards about how people would have
- 7:13Speaker 1: voted if they would have known about the hunter Biden's story,
- 7:15Speaker 1: But not get into any other stuff. I'm talking strictly
- 7:18Speaker 1: about that the media intentionally did that. Sean, This is
- 7:22Speaker 1: my point. This wasn't misfeasance, right. Misfeasance is different. You
- 7:26Speaker 1: see someone trip on the sidewalk in front of you you,
- 7:28Speaker 1: you don't help him. That's misfeasance. That's not what this was.
- 7:32Speaker 1: This was malfeasance. A guy trips on the sidewalk in
- 7:35Speaker 1: front of you and you kick him in the teeth
- 7:38Speaker 1: as he's getting up. They did this on purpose. This
- 7:42Speaker 1: was active collusion between the FBI, people in the DHS,
- 7:46Speaker 1: the d NI people at the FEC who had heard
- 7:49Speaker 1: about this stuff, Twitter, and big tech to steal away
- 7:53Speaker 1: your country. And you know what, listen to me, folks.
- 7:56Speaker 1: They did it, and Elon Musk is trying to help
- 7:59Speaker 1: you get it back to the Republicans in Congress who
- 8:02Speaker 1: now about to take over in January, you better grow
- 8:05Speaker 1: some moose nuts and you better do something about this,
- 8:08Speaker 1: or we're not going to have a damn country left.
- 8:11Speaker 1: This is the public square. I love Fox News and
- 8:14Speaker 1: I love working here, but Sean, even though we have
- 8:16Speaker 1: the biggest shows in primetime, it's still just a small
- 8:19Speaker 1: population of America. We cannot win an election in the
- 8:23Speaker 1: future with just Fox News. You need Twitter to be open,
- 8:27Speaker 1: you need Facebook to be open, you need these other platforms.
- 8:31Speaker 1: It's why I put my money behind these other things too, because,
- 8:34Speaker 1: like you said, I'm trying to build this parallel economy
- 8:36Speaker 1: out Maybe that's why I'm public enemy number one to
- 8:39Speaker 1: these guys showing I don't know, but I'm telling you.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I promise the audience I don't whine about it every
- 8:43Speaker 1: day on my show because I'm not a snowflake. You
- 8:46Speaker 1: have no idea what goes on behind the scenes with
- 8:48Speaker 1: Facebook fact checking my page over nonsense, Google banning US,
- 8:53Speaker 1: YouTube banning US, Twitter shadow banning US. It's relentless. It
- 8:57Speaker 1: never stops. They have put a guitar get on my
- 9:00Speaker 1: back for a long time now. Dan Bongino is right,
- 9:03Speaker 1: by the way, He's absolutely right what's happening. And he's
- 9:06Speaker 1: not the only one that was affected this way. One
- 9:08Speaker 1: of the other people that was affected in a major
- 9:11Speaker 1: way that is a name, a man by the name
- 9:13Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. Now, Charlie Kirk had a very active
- 9:16Speaker 1: Twitter account. He had a massive amount of engagement at Twitter.
- 9:22Speaker 1: And the reason why he had that engage is because
- 9:24Speaker 1: he was connecting with young people and conservatives and they
- 9:27Speaker 1: was trying to build a conservative base to fight back
- 9:29Speaker 1: against liberals and schools and colleges, woke professors and all
- 9:33Speaker 1: that they were involved in in public education. He was
- 9:36Speaker 1: taking on universities around the country and these Twitter Bomb
- 9:41Speaker 1: Shelf Files Part two prove what all conservatives have long
- 9:46Speaker 1: been not just suspected of it, but had been accusing
- 9:49Speaker 1: Twitter and big tech of doing. You get on a list,
- 9:52Speaker 1: and I believe I was on this list because our
- 9:54Speaker 1: Twitter reach just died overnight. We went from a half
- 9:58Speaker 1: million followers to one hundred and twenty something thousand, and
- 10:00Speaker 1: it didn't move for four years. And a tweet for
- 10:03Speaker 1: us would be a good tweet if it got ten
- 10:05Speaker 1: people that retweeted it. Ten people, that's it. Charlie Kirk
- 10:10Speaker 1: found out he was targeted. All of his suspicions were true. Right,
- 10:13Speaker 1: he was a conspiracy theorist. No, no, no, he wasn't
- 10:16Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist because he saw it in real time,
- 10:19Speaker 1: just like I did. Charlie Kirk is someone else who
- 10:22Speaker 1: apparently was censored by Twitter, as the founder in president
- 10:25Speaker 1: of Turning Point USA. We just told you that. Barry
- 10:28Speaker 1: Wie a few moments ago reported that internally Twitter censors
- 10:31Speaker 1: set Charlie Kirk's account to do not amplify status. Charlie
- 10:35Speaker 1: Kirk joins us right now, Charlie, thanks so much for
- 10:39Speaker 1: coming on. You're just hearing this too. I mean, this
- 10:42Speaker 1: just happened. This is happening in fact as we talk
- 10:45Speaker 1: about it. But do you have any idea which of
- 10:48Speaker 1: your tweets set this censorship in motion? I could probably guess.
- 10:56Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years ago, Axios did a
- 10:57Speaker 1: study that showed that our Twitter account had was the
- 11:01Speaker 1: fourth most engaged Twitter account on the planet, right up
- 11:03Speaker 1: there with President Trump. I mean, I've been using Twitter
- 11:05Speaker 1: for a decade. Happened to understand it really well, and
- 11:08Speaker 1: we were averaging one hundred and fifteen thousand retweets a
- 11:11Speaker 1: day when we were really at our peak, and we
- 11:14Speaker 1: would talk about, for example, in the midst of the virus,
- 11:16Speaker 1: how lockdowns might not be the best decision. We started
- 11:19Speaker 1: talking about how hey, I asked the question, are there
- 11:21Speaker 1: other treatments that we might want to talk about? So
- 11:23Speaker 1: it could have been that. But then all of a sudden,
- 11:24Speaker 1: we saw off a cliff. Almost immediately, our engagement, our
- 11:28Speaker 1: retweets disappear. I started to talk about this a lot, Tucker,
- 11:32Speaker 1: and I was called the conspiracy theorist. I was smeared
- 11:35Speaker 1: and I started the email crazy, yes exactly, well you're
- 11:40Speaker 1: quot on. I'm like, wait, hold on a second. I
- 11:41Speaker 1: used to get one hundred fifteen thousand retweets, and then
- 11:44Speaker 1: it's kind of one of those things, right Tucker, where
- 11:46Speaker 1: they convince you to stop talking about it because you
- 11:48Speaker 1: sound like, Okay, who cares about your Twitter account? Not
- 11:50Speaker 1: a big deal. And now you see actual verified documents
- 11:54Speaker 1: where my Twitter account was labeled as do not amplify NSFW,
- 11:59Speaker 1: which I could only in FIR means not safe for work,
- 12:02Speaker 1: other like threat tags. They're treating my Twitter account with
- 12:06Speaker 1: more scrutiny and censorship than the Prime Minister of Iran
- 12:11Speaker 1: than hamas the people that do actual terroristic type damage.
- 12:16Speaker 1: And now we have evidence to show that's exactly why
- 12:18Speaker 1: my Twitter A count the last couple of years has
- 12:20Speaker 1: been down ninety five percent in engagement. They saw what
- 12:24Speaker 1: I had to say as a direct threat to the regime.
- 12:27Speaker 1: You think about what Charlie Kirk just said there about
- 12:29Speaker 1: he has a Twitter account that is silenced. But the
- 12:33Speaker 1: terrorists in al Qaeda, in the Taliban, in Iran, they
- 12:40Speaker 1: don't have their tweets silence or censored. The regime in
- 12:43Speaker 1: China and in Russia do not have their tweets silence
- 12:47Speaker 1: because if you went after any of them, and you
- 12:50Speaker 1: silenced them. Then they would in that country say fine,
- 12:52Speaker 1: we're going to ban the terms of use of service
- 12:54Speaker 1: on Twitter. Don't think China wouldn't do that in one second.
- 12:58Speaker 1: But in America, Charlie Kirk could only do what I did, right,
- 13:01Speaker 1: I know I'm being censored, and they say, oh, you're
- 13:03Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist. And remember they also lied about this.
- 13:08Speaker 1: I really want to go back and remind you what
- 13:12Speaker 1: the head of Twitter said about this. Okay, the head
- 13:17Speaker 1: of Twitter said back in the day that there was
- 13:22Speaker 1: not shadow banning going on like this didn't happen. It
- 13:25Speaker 1: wasn't something that they would ever be doing, and if
- 13:29Speaker 1: you believed it, you were really considered to be crazy. Dorsey,
- 13:34Speaker 1: by the way, was also asked not just about shadow banning,
- 13:37Speaker 1: but also about censoring just in general, like censoring conservative,
- 13:41Speaker 1: censoring people. He's been lying about this for years When
- 13:44Speaker 1: he was a Twitter CEO. He went on the Today
- 13:47Speaker 1: Show in an exclusive interview. All right, and he went
- 13:50Speaker 1: on there with Matt Lower. This like two pis of
- 13:53Speaker 1: birds of a feather, you know, flock together, two peas
- 13:55Speaker 1: in a pod. I mean, this was the ideal person, right,
- 13:57Speaker 1: You got these two scumbags talking to the American people
- 14:01Speaker 1: and trying to make them believe that they don't shadow band,
- 14:04Speaker 1: they don't censor anyone. Listen. I sent tweet out yesterday
- 14:09Speaker 1: telling my followers, my measly number of followers that you
- 14:11Speaker 1: were going to be on and asking what questions they
- 14:14Speaker 1: would like you asked. There was an enormous outpouring of
- 14:18Speaker 1: questions about censorship. So let me ask you point blank.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Does Twitter censor the content of its users? Does it
- 14:27Speaker 1: hide what it would consider inflammatory comments, whether they be
- 14:31Speaker 1: social or political? Absolutely not, Twitter, absolutely not. Okay, all right,
- 14:35Speaker 1: so think about how long ago, how long ago it
- 14:38Speaker 1: was when Matt lower was the host of the Today's
- 14:44Speaker 1: Show years ago, now right, this was a long, long,
- 14:47Speaker 1: long time ago. And Jack Dorsey is there for this
- 14:50Speaker 1: one on one and he's asked, so you do this?
- 14:52Speaker 1: Absolutely not, and then he goes on to say this
- 14:55Speaker 1: and all this. He knows the lie at the time
- 14:57Speaker 1: he's doing it. There's always been about controls. People can
- 15:00Speaker 1: follow whoever they want, and it's hard job to make
- 15:02Speaker 1: sure they see the most the most important things and
- 15:05Speaker 1: the things that don't matter to them. So anybody can
- 15:07Speaker 1: say anything on Twitter. The company does not go in
- 15:10Speaker 1: there and take certain things out that can be dangerous.
- 15:14Speaker 1: But there's there's certainly tweets that promote violence, which is
- 15:17Speaker 1: against our terms of service. And people have controls to block,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and people have controls to mute. But what about the
- 15:23Speaker 1: company who decides the difference between criticism and hate. These
- 15:28Speaker 1: are the individuals. So you can follow who you want,
- 15:30Speaker 1: and if it's something you want to see, you continue
- 15:32Speaker 1: to follow it. So he was lying. While he was
- 15:36Speaker 1: saying this, he had hundreds of employees every day dealing
- 15:40Speaker 1: with thousands of requests, some of them from government officials,
- 15:43Speaker 1: some of it from the Deep States, some of it
- 15:44Speaker 1: from the Democratic National Committee, some of it from elected officials,
- 15:48Speaker 1: some of it from journalists, some of it from liberals
- 15:52Speaker 1: who worked with conservatives who were sending notes to Twitter saying, hey,
- 15:55Speaker 1: can you ban this guy? That's where I come in here.
- 15:58Speaker 1: I have no doubt that I was silenced by Twitter
- 16:02Speaker 1: and Facebook during the same week when I got my
- 16:05Speaker 1: first chance to host a show for an entire week.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I have no doubt that the hit piece that was
- 16:11Speaker 1: done on me by Media Matters was done at the
- 16:14Speaker 1: same time when they silenced and started shutting me down
- 16:16Speaker 1: on Facebook, and Twitter at the same time. And my
- 16:20Speaker 1: Twitter and Facebook accounts have never been the same since
- 16:23Speaker 1: that week when I went on to host a show
- 16:26Speaker 1: at CNN for an entire week. Now, why would they
- 16:28Speaker 1: do that to me? During that week, I'll tell you why.
- 16:30Speaker 1: There was too many liberals at CNN that didn't want
- 16:32Speaker 1: them to see me succeed much. Let's host a TV show,
- 16:35Speaker 1: And that was the week when Media Matters came out
- 16:37Speaker 1: and started pounding me because they wanted to get rid
- 16:39Speaker 1: of me. Now, I believe that would probably came from
- 16:41Speaker 1: internally at CNN. There was too many liberals there that said,
- 16:44Speaker 1: this is too scary Ben Ferguson possibly doing a TV
- 16:47Speaker 1: show and getting ratings that could turn into something. We
- 16:49Speaker 1: got to make sure that number one, he can't reach
- 16:51Speaker 1: his followers on Twitter at the time that were like
- 16:54Speaker 1: a half million and Facebook, and then we're gonna put
- 16:57Speaker 1: out this Media Matters article on him to attack him,
- 16:59Speaker 1: so maybe the him off the air. That's how these
- 17:01Speaker 1: people work. And I have no doubt in my mind
- 17:04Speaker 1: since that date, my Twitter account has been in essence worthless.
- 17:09Speaker 1: And we're gonna find this out because elon Mosca Sat
- 17:12Speaker 1: he's going to give out all the names of all
- 17:14Speaker 1: the people that had been silenced. But when Jack Dorsey
- 17:19Speaker 1: was doing this interview that I just played for you,
- 17:22Speaker 1: he knew he was lying to you, and he knew
- 17:24Speaker 1: that he was telling you something that was that was laughable.
- 17:27Speaker 1: And the people within Twitter were probably dying, laughing, nie
- 17:30Speaker 1: slapping as they were watching the Today's Show, going can
- 17:33Speaker 1: you believe the power that we have? This is amazing.
- 17:37Speaker 1: He also lied again when he did a interview on
- 17:40Speaker 1: CNN with you know, mister potato head himself to do
- 17:42Speaker 1: that's been fired Brian Skelter, one of the scumbags at
- 17:46Speaker 1: CNN that would silence and censor people and tell his
- 17:48Speaker 1: friends in big tech to attack conservatives. This guy who
- 17:54Speaker 1: mocked Donald Trump asked the question about Trump like, hey,
- 17:57Speaker 1: Donald Trump says your shadow banning and silencing him, and
- 18:00Speaker 1: they're conservatives, And listen to Jack Dorsey's response to this question.
- 18:04Speaker 1: The President called you out for shadow banning. What is
- 18:07Speaker 1: the truth around that idea? So I think a lot
- 18:12Speaker 1: of the statements behind the statement and the question behind
- 18:15Speaker 1: the question is look, shadow banning is a very widely
- 18:20Speaker 1: defined term. There's not one single definition. So the definition
- 18:26Speaker 1: that we found that seems to resonate with the most people,
- 18:29Speaker 1: is you know, not amplifying particular messages, or if someone
- 18:34Speaker 1: puts out a tweet hiding that tweet from everyone without
- 18:40Speaker 1: that person who tweeted it knowing about it. But the
- 18:43Speaker 1: real question behind the question is are we doing something
- 18:47Speaker 1: according to political ideology or viewpoints? And we are not. Period.
- 18:53Speaker 1: We do not look at content with regards to political
- 18:56Speaker 1: viewpoint or ideology. We look at behavior. Let me ask
- 19:01Speaker 1: about specific questions. Has Twitter ever been involved in shadow
- 19:04Speaker 1: banning with regards to political viewpoint or ideology? We look
- 19:10Speaker 1: at behavior. So if my count is right in real
- 19:13Speaker 1: time as we're listening to this together, he just lied
- 19:16Speaker 1: to you in one response six times, six times he
- 19:20Speaker 1: knew that he was lying to you. Does Twitter silence people? Yes?
- 19:23Speaker 1: Do they do it based on their beliefs? Yes? Is
- 19:27Speaker 1: it attacking a conservative viewpoint? Yes? Is shadow banning happening
- 19:32Speaker 1: based on his definition? Absolutely? It was. He lies to
- 19:35Speaker 1: you and says, no, this never happened, when he obviously
- 19:38Speaker 1: knows yes, it does happen, and it happened hundreds of
- 19:41Speaker 1: times per day. Were there accounts that had massive reach
- 19:45Speaker 1: that all of a sudden that reach literally disappeared overnight
- 19:48Speaker 1: and you never got them off of the silencing status.
- 19:52Speaker 1: For years, they were indefinitely banned from being successful or
- 19:55Speaker 1: being seen on Twitter. Yes, he lied to you on
- 19:59Speaker 1: all of it, and he knew he was lying, because
- 20:00Speaker 1: we now know from the internal files that not only
- 20:03Speaker 1: was he did he know about this program at Twitter,
- 20:06Speaker 1: he was involved in it and a part of it.
- 20:08Speaker 1: He was in part of the decision making process. I
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- 21:25Speaker 1: That's Legacy PM Investments dot com. There was something else
- 21:29Speaker 1: that also happened. This was several years ago. There were
- 21:33Speaker 1: starting to be articles that were written and reviews that
- 21:37Speaker 1: were being written. You heard earlider Charlie Kirk mentioned Axios
- 21:40Speaker 1: did an expose about the silencing of their Twitter account
- 21:44Speaker 1: and did the dad and the research and the analysis
- 21:46Speaker 1: on all of it, and it was it was damning.
- 21:49Speaker 1: And so what happened was Big Tech was being accused
- 21:52Speaker 1: by virtually every talk show host that was significant in
- 21:55Speaker 1: the country of silencing them, shadow banning them. We were
- 21:59Speaker 1: hearing from listeners and callers that were calling in and
- 22:02Speaker 1: they were saying over and over again, Hey, we got
- 22:05Speaker 1: a problem here, like we can't find you. I can't
- 22:07Speaker 1: find your stuff, I can't find your information. We really
- 22:13Speaker 1: can't find out what's happening right now with you. And
- 22:17Speaker 1: and we're really concerned about this, right like like we're like,
- 22:21Speaker 1: we're genuinely concerned, and we started talking about it, and
- 22:27Speaker 1: then these organizations got smart. Facebook, for example, had an
- 22:33Speaker 1: emergency meeting. I had friends that were in this meeting.
- 22:36Speaker 1: They were flown out to California and given a briefing
- 22:40Speaker 1: on how basically, we're not censoring or silencing conservatives, we're
- 22:44Speaker 1: not shadow banning people. We want to work with you guys.
- 22:47Speaker 1: If you have any concerns, please call us. Yead yah yah.
- 22:50Speaker 1: This is when they were at least trying to fake it. Okay.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Twitter apparently did the same thing, and then they did
- 22:55Speaker 1: a pr kind of you know, move forward with this subject.
- 23:00Speaker 1: And what they did was they called prominent conservatives who
- 23:03Speaker 1: had large audience and they actually made themselves available to
- 23:06Speaker 1: do different interviews. Jack Dorsey for example, did this as well,
- 23:11Speaker 1: because they understood this could get sticky, so they needed
- 23:14Speaker 1: to go out there and just reassure the public we're
- 23:16Speaker 1: not really doing this, and then turn conservatives that were
- 23:20Speaker 1: being shadow into basically conspiracy theorist theorists right, qan On
- 23:24Speaker 1: and all that crazy they would they would label you.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Is it crazy for even implying they were doing this
- 23:31Speaker 1: because they were on the record on legitimate shows right
- 23:34Speaker 1: putting out this propaganda. Sean Hannity got one of these interviews.
- 23:41Speaker 1: I remember this, and this was the lies told to
- 23:45Speaker 1: Hannity during that time. Let me ask about specific questions
- 23:49Speaker 1: as Twitter ever been involved in shadow banning. We do
- 23:52Speaker 1: not shadow ban according to political ideology or viewpoint or content.
- 23:58Speaker 1: That's Jack Dorsey saying that to Sean Handy on Sean
- 24:01Speaker 1: Handy's TV show our radio show. I should say, we
- 24:05Speaker 1: do not shoutout Ampeele based on content political viewpoints. He's
- 24:09Speaker 1: lying to you, but he's doing this from a PR
- 24:13Speaker 1: firm perspective perfectly. Hey, we're gonna get you on China
- 24:16Speaker 1: Handy's show. And I'm sure Jack Dorsey's like, why the
- 24:18Speaker 1: hell am I going on his show? Because this is
- 24:20Speaker 1: going to be an issue if you don't go on
- 24:21Speaker 1: a show, go on a show and tell the conservative
- 24:24Speaker 1: world that we're just not doing this, and he did
- 24:26Speaker 1: it and he sold it. Period. We every model that
- 24:31Speaker 1: we have on the network is really looking at the
- 24:34Speaker 1: behaviors on the network. We take those behaviors as signals,
- 24:37Speaker 1: and I do want to point out that these signals
- 24:39Speaker 1: evolve minute like, minute by minute, hourly by hourly. These
- 24:44Speaker 1: are not scarlet permanent letters that people then take on
- 24:48Speaker 1: as a badge and will never be ranked high in
- 24:50Speaker 1: search or not allowed to trend or ranked high in conversation.
- 24:54Speaker 1: So these are models that are looking at behaviors and
- 24:58Speaker 1: behaviors of bad faith actors who intend to manipulate, distract,
- 25:02Speaker 1: divide a conversation. This is pathological line. You know you're
- 25:08Speaker 1: going to do an interview with Sean Handy. You know,
- 25:11Speaker 1: Sean Handy's going to ask you the question that he's
- 25:13Speaker 1: been talking about for months on end, with a massive
- 25:15Speaker 1: amount of evidence that you're silencing and shadow banning conservative
- 25:19Speaker 1: Twitter accounts so that you can interfere in our elections
- 25:22Speaker 1: in this country. And you go on there from a
- 25:25Speaker 1: PR perspective, a PR standpoint to kind of make the
- 25:28Speaker 1: story go away and you look like you're totally being transparent.
- 25:32Speaker 1: This is no different than the Ponzi scheme interviews that
- 25:34Speaker 1: were just being done by this guy with XTF recently. Right,
- 25:39Speaker 1: go on CNBC tell them everything's perfect, Tell them everything's fine.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Give hundreds of millions of dollars, become the second biggest
- 25:46Speaker 1: owner to the Democratic Party, and they'll let you do
- 25:49Speaker 1: your Ponzi scheme and look the other way as long
- 25:51Speaker 1: as you're on the team of the Democrats. That is
- 25:53Speaker 1: exactly what was happening here with Twitter. I'm sure with Facebook, Okay,
- 25:58Speaker 1: it's exactly what was happening just with Twitter, But Facebook
- 26:01Speaker 1: and Google and Apple and YouTube, they're all doing this.
- 26:05Speaker 1: But to look you in the eye and tell you,
- 26:07Speaker 1: no, no no, no, you're the crazy one, right you are.
- 26:11Speaker 1: You are the crazy one. We're not crazy, you're crazy.
- 26:16Speaker 1: You're the one that's paranoid. You're the one that's part
- 26:19Speaker 1: of qing on. In fact, let's just go back to
- 26:21Speaker 1: Congress for a second. Twitter ceo was testifying before a
- 26:25Speaker 1: House panel, and he knew that he was lying to
- 26:28Speaker 1: Congress when he was asked this question by a congressman
- 26:30Speaker 1: who then to the Twitter ceo. And this is his
- 26:33Speaker 1: response to this whole hearing. And the reason that Twitter, somehow,
- 26:37Speaker 1: with all the other social media platforms out there, got
- 26:40Speaker 1: the singular honor to sit in front of this committee
- 26:43Speaker 1: is because there's some implication that your site is trying
- 26:48Speaker 1: to sense their conservative voices on your platform. Now, when
- 26:52Speaker 1: you tried to explain the shadow banning, as I understand it,
- 26:56Speaker 1: you had a system where if people who were following
- 27:00Speaker 1: people had some behaviors that that was the trigger that
- 27:06Speaker 1: allowed that caused you to do the shadow banning. So
- 27:09Speaker 1: you were really like an equal opportunity shadow banner. Right,
- 27:12Speaker 1: You didn't just shadow band for conservative Republicans. You shadow
- 27:16Speaker 1: band six hundred thousand people across your entire platform, across
- 27:20Speaker 1: the globe who had people following them that had certain
- 27:24Speaker 1: behaviors that caused you to downgrade them coming up. Is
- 27:28Speaker 1: that correct? I love this. By the way, this is
- 27:30Speaker 1: a Democrat idiot from Pennsylvania Democrat congressman saying, well, if
- 27:35Speaker 1: there is shadow banning, it's not like you're just targeting conservatives.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Because this is when it got even worse for Twitter. Right,
- 27:42Speaker 1: Dorisey's there with his nose ring in probably you know,
- 27:45Speaker 1: just you know, I got finished smoking a ball and
- 27:47Speaker 1: he's and he's just kind of you know, he's before Congress,
- 27:50Speaker 1: but he doesn't really care because he knows that everybody's
- 27:53Speaker 1: doing this, and it's like, well, I'm not going down
- 27:55Speaker 1: as long as I own the company. Couldn't imagine at
- 27:56Speaker 1: this point when he's answering this question that Elon Musk
- 27:59Speaker 1: was gonna buy his company, right and in a hostile takeover.
- 28:03Speaker 1: He didn't imagine it would ever come out what they
- 28:05Speaker 1: were actually doing and shadow banning people. And there's Democrats like, well,
- 28:09Speaker 1: even if you did do this, you're doing it on
- 28:11Speaker 1: an issue, not on politics. You're not just picking three
- 28:14Speaker 1: conservatives and doing this to them. Now you're doing it's
- 28:17Speaker 1: one hundreds of thousands of people, right, all right? You
- 28:19Speaker 1: ready for the lie in front of Congress. Here it is.
- 28:22Speaker 1: So this was never targeted at conservative Republicans. This was
- 28:27Speaker 1: targeted to a group of six hundred thousand people because
- 28:30Speaker 1: of the people who followed them. And then you determined
- 28:33Speaker 1: that wasn't fair and you corrected that practice. Is that correct? So,
- 28:38Speaker 1: just for the record, since you've been singled out as
- 28:42Speaker 1: a social media platform before this committee, Twitter undertook no
- 28:47Speaker 1: behavior to selectively censor conservative Republicans or conservative voices on
- 28:54Speaker 1: your platform. Is that correct? Good? So let the record
- 28:57Speaker 1: reflect that, because that's the whole reasons we're here. Because
- 29:01Speaker 1: House Leader Kevin McCarthy wrote our chairman a letter and said, hey,
- 29:05Speaker 1: this is going on and we think your committee should
- 29:07Speaker 1: investigate it. And it's a load of crap. Well, there
- 29:11Speaker 1: it is. It's a load of crap, right, he just
- 29:14Speaker 1: lied to Congress. Well there'll be any accountability for lying
- 29:17Speaker 1: to Congress. I doubt it because he's a Democrat. If
- 29:20Speaker 1: you lie to congressman, Democrat, you get a slap on
- 29:22Speaker 1: the back the XTF chairman. I go back to the
- 29:24Speaker 1: Ponzi scheme of XCF for a second, just to show
- 29:26Speaker 1: you the example. As long as you're on the Democrats team,
- 29:29Speaker 1: they will do nothing but protect you when you're busted
- 29:32Speaker 1: screwing up. The number two investor in the Democratic Party
- 29:38Speaker 1: and the midterm elections was the guy who two days
- 29:41Speaker 1: after the midterm elections files for bankruptcy. Basically, his company
- 29:45Speaker 1: goes bankrupt. There's no money. There's billions and billions of
- 29:48Speaker 1: dollars that are missing. But hey, at least he funneled
- 29:52Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand the Democratic Party first, and we'll
- 29:55Speaker 1: look the other way. You throw this guy in front
- 29:59Speaker 1: of Congress, and what do you tell people over and
- 30:01Speaker 1: over again? You tell them that what they believe Ken McCarthy.
- 30:05Speaker 1: The Republicans, you're crazy. You ask them the question, did
- 30:08Speaker 1: you shout out and republicans know? Would you pick up
- 30:10Speaker 1: Republicans on purpose? No? Did you do any of that's
- 30:13Speaker 1: on purpose? No, you didn't do any of it. Now,
- 30:15Speaker 1: and it wasn't just politics. Right, There's another part of
- 30:18Speaker 1: this story. This was anything that Twitter didn't want to
- 30:24Speaker 1: let out. There that anything Twitter didn't want to exist.
- 30:29Speaker 1: This included stuff with COVID. Okay, covid was a big
- 30:33Speaker 1: part of this. I want to go back to the
- 30:36Speaker 1: story the doctor real quick, this professor who was asking
- 30:42Speaker 1: genuine questions about lockdowns and could it negatively affect children?
- 30:46Speaker 1: Listen to what Miranda defined said about this last night,
- 30:49Speaker 1: spooking Google were doing it. What are you think it's
- 30:51Speaker 1: going on on YouTube? We'll likely never know, but we
- 30:54Speaker 1: can certainly guess. Miranda Divine was an early target of
- 30:58Speaker 1: censorship by Twitter. Of course, she works at the New
- 31:00Speaker 1: York Post, which broke the Hunter Biden laptop story. She's
- 31:03Speaker 1: been following it ever since. She joins us tonight with
- 31:05Speaker 1: reaction to the second tranche of documents. What do you
- 31:08Speaker 1: make of this so far? At Miranda look it's I guess,
- 31:13Speaker 1: not surprising, as you said, but it is really gratifying
- 31:17Speaker 1: to see it laid out in policies and to catch
- 31:22Speaker 1: out those top people at Twitter in their lies, because
- 31:26Speaker 1: they did lie. They said that there was no shadow
- 31:29Speaker 1: banning going on where you know, we knew just by
- 31:32Speaker 1: our own experience on Twitter. I, for instance, since Elon
- 31:35Speaker 1: Musk brought in, have increased my follow account by forty percent,
- 31:40Speaker 1: and that's just something that's experienced by conservatives across the board.
- 31:45Speaker 1: And you notice from all the names that Barry Weiss
- 31:48Speaker 1: has brought up tonight, they're all conservatives. And Barry Weiss
- 31:52Speaker 1: is not a conservative. She's ex New York Times. I
- 31:56Speaker 1: guess she'd be a red pilled liberal if anything, And
- 32:00Speaker 1: if there were left wingers that had been banned, you
- 32:03Speaker 1: can bet that she would have named them to be
- 32:06Speaker 1: equal opportunity. I think Matt Taibee was snowed, probably by
- 32:11Speaker 1: James Baker. He said a couple of things that didn't
- 32:14Speaker 1: ring true with those first batch of Twitter files, like
- 32:17Speaker 1: the federal government wasn't involved, and so I think now
- 32:22Speaker 1: that Elon Musk has kind of been red pilled himself
- 32:24Speaker 1: and James Baker has gone, we might see more things
- 32:29Speaker 1: that are useful. But of course, you know, as Tracey
- 32:32Speaker 1: just said, there's still nothing on the FBI, but it's
- 32:36Speaker 1: really part of an overall censorship scheme, and it was
- 32:39Speaker 1: anything that was, you know, anybody dissenting against the Biden administration,
- 32:45Speaker 1: against federal agencies like the CDC, you know, anything for instance.
- 32:51Speaker 1: I think a lot of this. I think Elon Musk
- 32:53Speaker 1: is getting ahead of the revelations that we're seeing out
- 32:57Speaker 1: of that incredible lawsuit being wrought by Eric Schmidt, the
- 33:02Speaker 1: Attorney General now Senator elect from Missouri and the Attorney
- 33:06Speaker 1: General of Louisiana. They are suing the Biden administration for
- 33:11Speaker 1: violation of the First Amendment for using the social media
- 33:14Speaker 1: companies to do their dirty work, and that included banning
- 33:20Speaker 1: or shadow banning. Jadichara, who is an eminent physician from Stanford,
- 33:27Speaker 1: multiple degrees and incredibly sober, sensible, rational, thoughtful person, one
- 33:34Speaker 1: of the three founders of the Great Barrington Declaration, which
- 33:39Speaker 1: just said it wasn't COVID denying, it was just saying
- 33:43Speaker 1: we know enough to know that it really just hits
- 33:47Speaker 1: the elderly and the infirm, so they should be protected.
- 33:50Speaker 1: And let younger people who aren't affected keep the economy
- 33:54Speaker 1: going and basically create herd immunity by getting sick the
- 34:00Speaker 1: virus and not dying. And that was just the most
- 34:04Speaker 1: eminently sensible thing for everybody's mental health, physical health, and
- 34:09Speaker 1: economic health. And he was shadow band, he and every
- 34:15Speaker 1: sensible person online who said children should not be getting
- 34:18Speaker 1: these shots because the ill effects outweighed the benefits. And
- 34:24Speaker 1: they were right. And unfortunately, you know, doctor Fauci and
- 34:30Speaker 1: all these people who just decided they were going to
- 34:32Speaker 1: suppress the truth, they probably cost people's lives. Of course
- 34:36Speaker 1: they did, of course they did. And it was strategic.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I mean, they weren't censoring people because they were annoying.
- 34:42Speaker 1: They were censoring people because they were providing factual information
- 34:46Speaker 1: that might have stopped certain policies or election results from happening.
- 34:52Speaker 1: So you know, this was sophisticated and had a huge
- 34:54Speaker 1: effect on American society. I would say a huge effect.
- 34:59Speaker 1: If you can take out all the big Republican names,
- 35:02Speaker 1: you can go on TV like Jack Dorsey did saying
- 35:05Speaker 1: I we never censored any concervatives, and you're crazy if
- 35:08Speaker 1: you take away the reach of every conservative talk showst
- 35:13Speaker 1: in the country, every conservative commentator in the country. That's significant.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Imagine how you can change an election. Imagine what you
- 35:20Speaker 1: can do when you can silence and ban a story
- 35:23Speaker 1: and then treat people that are trying to share that
- 35:25Speaker 1: story about Hunter Biden's laptop like they are sharing child pornography.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Imagine how successful you can be an election after election
- 35:33Speaker 1: if the Democratic Party, the Deep State, the FBI, Hillary
- 35:38Speaker 1: Clinton's campaign, Joe Biden's campaign can just send a note
- 35:44Speaker 1: to big Tech saying, this guy's a pain in our ass.
- 35:48Speaker 1: Can you silence him, make him disappear? Can you make
- 35:51Speaker 1: it where Dan Bonino when you search his name you
- 35:54Speaker 1: can't even find him. Yeah, we can do that for you,
- 35:57Speaker 1: no problem. It's a lot easier to want to actions.
- 36:00Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to do shady and corrupt things
- 36:03Speaker 1: if you know that if the shady and corrupt things
- 36:07Speaker 1: are actually exposed, that you can just shut down them
- 36:10Speaker 1: being exposed. In other words, you've won the game no
- 36:14Speaker 1: matter what you do. You want to know why Democrats
- 36:16Speaker 1: have gotten so bold, why they've gotten so good at
- 36:20Speaker 1: doing god awful things. This is why, because there's zero
- 36:26Speaker 1: accountability when they get caught. Zero. I'll say it again zero.
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