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Recapping the Plant & Charlo card, plus Lomachenko's retirement · Boxing B-Sides

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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Well, shall we do the thing? Yes. Fucking, alright.
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Boxing B -Sides. We are back, bitches, up in
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your ears. Oh, the panel's different. I still
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have the one and only Alex, but you're getting
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a double dose of Shanada this week. Yeah, you
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poor bastards. We don't have to hear little old
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Joshua talk about pay -per -view prices for an
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hour again. Which one is Joshua? Was his bad
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take the Don King's good? No, that was Alex.
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That was on purpose. Fun little bit. No, Josh's
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bad take was to pay the monsters UFC wages. Right,
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right. Lower the wages so that they fight more.
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I saw he has an article about that. Needed some
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editing, but it should come out soon. Yeah. You
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know what's not coming soon? Lomachenko's next
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fight. Motherfucker is officially, officially
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retired. He had a good run. He had a fun run.
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Lomachenko, he did. He had less fights than I
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thought he did. Yeah, it's like 18 -3 or something.
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Yeah. Loma couldn't even get 20 wins? What the
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hell? He did get 20 fights, though. There's that.
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There is that. And two of those, his hardest
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core of fans, we'll say, are not losses. Haney
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and Salido. Salido, legitimately, you can argue.
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I don't want to argue with you guys yet, but
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I mean, the Haney loss was not a loss. I think
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that was a robbery, and I might have stopped
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now, actually. I'm going to save this anger for
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later. I'm still of the mind that he's not going
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to be remembered by boxing history for very long.
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No, you're right. He didn't accomplish a whole
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lot. Like, his resume is pretty light. Whatever
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you might think about the losses, all of his
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big fights are losses. And other than that, he's
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got, what, Rocky Martini? Well, no, Gary Russell
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Jr., that was a good one. It's aged like milk,
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but Nicholas Walters, that was a good win. I
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do disagree with you on how he didn't have a
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lot of good accomplishments. He does have accomplishments.
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He has won a good amount of the titles. Nobody's
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going to remember the fighters that he won against,
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unfortunately. I do think Lomachenko is going
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to be remembered more for his techniques and
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the effect he's had on training. than on any
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particular win. More so a skill than his actual
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career. Yes. I thought Rigondel, I thought he
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was a wizard. And then I saw Lomachenko just
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make him look like a fucking fool. I was like,
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yeah, I'm done betting against this man. I do
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think that's going to be a fight that most...
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If someone's going to study boxing, that would
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be a great fight to study. In my opinion, though.
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Oh, actually, Leo, I have one more retirement
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announcement to add. Although maybe it fits better
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over on Before Dark. But Kosei Tanaka announced
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his retirement as well. Really? Yeah, he injured
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his eye. And at 29, he decided to retire. Smart
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move. So Lomachenko made me think of it because
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Tanaka holds the fastest person to win belts
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at four weights. He did it in 21 fights. He did
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it faster than Inoue by one fight as well, I
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think. Oh, shit. So he broke De La Hoya's record
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at 24 fights. I don't think anybody's going to
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remember Kosei Tanaka except, like, the DeGens,
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but he was really good. I really liked watching
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Tanaka fight. I thought he was fun. Yeah. Good.
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I also want to add another thing into Rest in
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Peace Michael Callum. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he passed
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away this week, or at the time of this recording,
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two weeks ago. The Body Snatcher. Body Snatcher.
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The OG Body Snatcher. Anything more for the retirements?
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Or the 10 count? No, I don't think so. Do you
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guys have a word to say about Mike McCown? I
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didn't really know who he was until Shannara
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brought him up, so I don't have that much to
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add. I already did one over on Boxing Before
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Dark, but if you have things to say, because
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I didn't make notes beforehand. It wasn't a very
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good eulogy. Well, I don't have much to say,
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same as you. I just wanted to point it out. He
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had a lot of great fights. Fun fighter to watch.
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Hell of a fighter. Rest in peace, Mike McKell.
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R .I .P. Alright, let's get into some recaps
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here. Wednesday, May 28th. Ohashi on DAZN. There
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are three on here to point out. Shanada, was
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Tsubasa yours? Yeah, yeah. Narai versus Hara
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was a rematch. Hara got knocked out pretty quickly
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in the first one. And the second one didn't go
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much better for him. But it was a fun fight to
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watch. A lot of action. Very little defense.
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Very Japanese -Asian level fight. Highly recommend
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it. Speaking of a lot of action, Yoshiki Takei
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and the complete lack of action. Did you watch
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this one, Alex? I saw clips of it. It was...
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I wish I didn't see those clips, honestly. If
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you saw clips, it was probably the whole fight.
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I don't think it took... It was, um... It was
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like two minutes worth of highlight, I'll tell
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you that. Well, the fight wasn't two minutes
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long, so you saw the whole fight. Yeah. Yeah,
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Takei just ran over this man. I don't know what...
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I don't know what they are saving Takai for,
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but... Isn't the rumor that Inoue... Or not Inoue,
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fucking... Tenshin Asakawa? Well, him and Tsutsumi
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did a whole bunch of... This is breaking news,
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I assume. They did a whole bunch of interviews
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last night at the fights. So I didn't understand
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any of it, but I kind of assume that they're
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going to unify next when Tsutsumi gets cleared
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by the doctors. That would be nice. Actually...
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I almost got a picture with Tsutsumi. I was too
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polite, and there was tall fucks in front of
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me, and I couldn't even do the, like, sneaky
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selfie from the side. All I got was the back
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of people's heads. But I got real close to him.
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I could have got a picture with Takei, but I
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wanted a picture with Tsutsumi, so I got a picture
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with neither of them. But... Feel bad for the
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guy, honestly. For Tsutsumi, I can't believe
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they stripped him so fast. It's pretty crazy,
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actually. I thought he was champion in recess.
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Yeah, sorry, stripped is the wrong word. I can't
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believe they put him in recess in, what was it,
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two months? They let other fuckers hold belts
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for like a year. Hardly. Yeah, like Lomachenko
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held his belt for a year without fighting. They
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hold on to the hope. But Susumi was gonna fight
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again. And soon. I don't think the recovery on
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that eye surgery is that bad. I wanna say, like,
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it wasn't like he was out, like, doing nothing.
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He got injured. You know? Yeah. And it wasn't
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a bad injury, but it was still an injury. You
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know? Yeah, well, I guess he didn't have to have
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the surgery done this time. But he got it done
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this time out of precaution. That's good. Yeah,
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that's what you should do. Yeah. Been waiting
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a couple people that we know in the sport. Shakur,
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Ryan, Andre Ward. Anyways, I don't know. I'm
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always going to cheer for Tsutsumi, but I don't
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know if he can take Takei's power. Takei's power.
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I mean, Takei hits like a truck. I don't know
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how he generates that much power in that little
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body. He's tiny. I guess. Main event. Eduardo
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Nunez. versus Masanori Rikishi. The Japanese
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hope for the 130 title. That's the one Ogawa
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used to hold, right? The IBF? Yeah. Yeah, that's
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right. I think we talked about this one already
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on Boxing Before Dark. Yeah. It was just Nunez
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was just too much. I had posited that I thought
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that Nunes could have done something to maybe
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press the issue and maybe go for a stoppage.
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But, yeah, it seemed like Rikishi was too tough
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for that. And good on him, you know? Yeah, didn't
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give up to the final bell. Yeah, even though
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he was losing, he was in it to win it the whole
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fight. You got to give him that. Yeah, he's got
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a dog in him. Yep. How do you say dog in Japanese?
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Inu. So he's got that Inu. Moving to Friday,
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May 30th. We've got two cards. One of them is
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going to be rather quick. The main event to get
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this one out of the way. Matchroom in Guadalajara.
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Khalil Coe. Rearranges Manuel Gallegos' face.
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That was rough. It was a pretty brutal beatdown.
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One -handed, too. He was pretty much just jabbing
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it the whole time. It was sharp, too. Yes. I
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have never... Sorry, go ahead. I was going to
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say that I was surprised he didn't do this in
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the first fight. I mean, he didn't change up
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his style much. You know? It was a completely
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different fight. At first. I was surprised. Genuinely.
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It wasn't like Gallegos wasn't in the fight.
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He was in the fight for sure. I don't know if
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you guys can help me figure out what did Khalil
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do better. Well, I think it's because he broke
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his nose so badly in the first round. I think
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that really messed up Gallegos' fight from then
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on. He was piling at it the whole time. I have
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never seen a jab smash a nose like that. Like,
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he broke it so bad that the blood was coming
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out of the top of his nose somehow. Off the bridge?
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Yeah. It was gross. I imagine that changed how
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Gallegos fought for the rest of the fight. Sure.
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I see what you're saying. What were you going
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to say earlier before I inevitably interrupted
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you? No, I was just going to say that jab was
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gross. They did the slow -mo when he broke his
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nose and the blood squirted out of the bridge
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of his nose. Murojan Akhmadaliev, MJ, gets a
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stoppage in eight over Luis Castillo. As I put
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it on Boxing Before Dark, wasn't all that impressed.
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I was expecting better. Because this is the guy
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that we're talking about. He's going to be sharing
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the ring with Inouye. This is already a done
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deal. And they're doing it in a few months. And
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this was not a very good outing. I expected better.
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Honestly, I could have chopped it up too. Just
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probably had a bad night. For lack of a better
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term. It's not like he lost. He did alright.
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Dominant win. Yeah, dominant win. It just took
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a little too long. Maybe you could chop that
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up to the durability of the opponent. Maybe.
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If that MJ shows up against Inouye, he's gonna
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die. We'll see what happens with MJ, but honestly,
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I hate to sound horrible here, but I kind of
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do hope the envy shows up because i do want to
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see nakatani versus anyway i think that happens
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anyways i don't think it matters if in a way
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loses you don't think it matters if anyway loses
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his title and i don't think that matters at all
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no not for the fight of that scale that that
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doesn't matter uh i'm just curious i don't know
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the the um japanese audience as much they don't
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care much about the titles not when it's Two
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guys with that big a name. I don't think so.
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Okay. Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. But it's still
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going to sell out. People are going to come to
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watch it. I also don't think we need to worry
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about it. I don't think MJ is going to catch
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Inoue. Yeah. Well, we said the same thing about
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Cardenas. Look what happened. Never know. I said
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Cardenas was going to do better than anyone thought.
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I bet the over on the over under on that one.
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You made that money, huh? I did. It paid out
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pretty good, actually. Nice. Ms. Gambling Addict.
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We love that. Yeah, my whole five $10 bets. Cheeseburger
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bet? Pretty much. Nice, nice, nice. I think we
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were talking about, with Cardenas, we were talking
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about MJ having the same trainer, so that corner
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experience should be pretty useful, I think.
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And Inoue does make the same mistake every fucking
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time. I just... I don't know if MJ is going to
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be able to capitalize any better than anyone
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else has. If he's smart, he can. I just don't
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think MJ's that good. Yeah, if he's as good as
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I'd like to think he is. Maybe. I mean, stranger
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things have happened, but I don't see it. I don't
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think MJ's that good. I think, in a way, I'll
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pick him apart. Pretty quickly. Hope Inouye wins
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that one, though. So you can stick it to Eddie
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Hearn. Any chance to stick it to Eddie Hearn.
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Eddie Hearn's been taking some pretty serious
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L's lately. That he has. He's the British Oscar.
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Say that. That's just rude. Honestly, I... Okay,
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this might catch some flack. Might catch a lot
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of black, actually. I mean, I love Oscar the
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fighter, but the promoter, I think he's the worst
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promoter than Eddie Hearn. I think Eddie Hearn's
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a pretty good promoter. Yeah, I mean, Eddie Hearn
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is a promoter. He promotes the hell out of his
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fights compared to Oscar, dude. Yeah, he does.
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And we're going to get to this right now. I mean,
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I knew about the Khalil Cole fight a long time
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ago, but friggin'... What, we're going to talk
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about Darius Fulgham versus Beck the Bully? I
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mean, I didn't really know about it until we
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started talking about it on the pod. Yeah. That
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kind of just goes to show you the difference
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between the promoters, you know what I mean?
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Eddie Hearn is definitely louder for his fighters,
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and he's more on social media for his fighters.
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Oscar's still promoting himself a lot of the
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time. That's what a lot of his social media presence
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is, is like that clapback stuff. Like, it's funny,
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but at no point... I've watched a few of them.
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I can't say I've seen them all, but in the few
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that I've seen, he never once talks about an
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event that he has coming up. He just talks about
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himself. Yeah. Like he struck his ego, just like
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Mayweather. Yeah, he likes his ego. That's why
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a lot of ex -fighters don't make good promoters.
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Like, none of the really famous for being good
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promoters people were ever fighters. Oscar's
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the only one that really succeeded at that, and
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look how he is. We're going to talk about it
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again right now, but his promotional company's
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good. Yeah. Which we'll also get into next week
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when we talk about what he has coming up. All
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right, but let's get to the Golden Boy card here.
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Virgin Hotel. In Las Vegas. There's only two
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fights on here that I think are worth mentioning.
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Unless you two have others worth pointing out.
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But for me it was Eric Priest versus Luis Arias.
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This was a great step up for Eric Priest. And
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he handled it perfectly. It was a dominant win.
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It wasn't flashy. It wasn't like highlight reel.
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Fucking social media. Virality. Nothing like
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that. He got the job done. He did the work. He
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got the rounds in, and he got the job done. There's
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not much else to it. No, it was a good, solid
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performance, though. I actually didn't know who
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Eric Priest was. I might have watched him before,
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but I didn't remember him. I watched him in the
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Golden Boy Undercard. Yep. So I kind of forgot
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about him. Kind of one of those fighters that
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you will see him Undercard and you won't really
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remember. Yeah, you see him. He's always there,
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just never really stands out. Yeah. I don't know.
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Hopefully he... I don't know. Maybe somebody
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needs to give him a little nudge. Like, dude,
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if you want people to recognize you or remember
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you, you're going to have to start laying some
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people out. That's easier said than done, bro.
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I was literally about to say that. It's way easier
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said than done. It's like telling Shakur not
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to be boring. That's the same thing as Eric Priest.
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Don't be boring. I think he was trying to not
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be boring. He just isn't going to be KOing people
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in highlight reel stoppages. He was not as boring
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as Shakur. That is not a fair comparison. Honestly,
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at this stage, it's better to be a little more
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skillful than just mong out. You know what I
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mean? Yeah. Hone your skills a little more. You
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know what I mean? Fix whatever you need to fix
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early. Makes sense. I also wanted to point out,
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I know you said only two fights, but I know there's
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another one that I really wanted to point out.
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Joshua Edwards, the feature American Heavyweight.
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Okay. How did he do? Did you guys watch that?
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I don't recall. I got a look up his face, but
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I probably didn't watch. Yeah, he knocked the
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guy out. He's, uh... He was from the Olympics.
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We talked about this a couple of pods ago. He
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went to the 2024 Olympics. He's a switch hitter.
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He's fast. I'll tell you this. He's fast. He
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has knockout power. I think he's promising. Reminds
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me of Jared Anderson when he first started out.
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You know what I mean? Before he got boring? Oh,
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he was the very first one. I did not watch this
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fight. I think Joshua Edwards is dead. If there's
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going to be another American heavyweight champion,
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it's going to be him. For sure. No doubt about
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it. Old statement. I'll have to put him on the
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list of people to watch. I think... I know, again,
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I know it's... really, really early to say because
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we haven't really seen much of his chin. But
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you know what? It kind of... For American heavyweights,
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we don't have much, so he'll at least be the
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number one rank, at least. Okay. I see what you
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mean. We have Richard Torres and we have Deontay
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Wilder, Jarrell Miller, Jerry Anderson. That's
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dire. That is not good at all. You are calling
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this after two pro fights, though. So... Well,
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you have to watch him to understand what I'm
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saying, though. He does look very promising.
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Yeah, I'll have to check him out. He's short.
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He's 6 '3". But you know what? He's going to
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do some work in the future, I guarantee you.
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But the fact that the heavyweights are getting
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smaller, too. That's exactly what I was going
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to bring up, was something that I think it was
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Nathan said on Ultimate FN Casuals. It was that,
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or no, it was Isaac, that the era of the Titanweight.
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That shit's starting to fade away. Tyson Fury
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riding off into the fucking who knows where.
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If he'll ever come back. Yeah. He's like 6 '4".
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Usyk, I think 6 '3". Richard Torres is... The
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heavyweights stay at this size. A guy like Richard
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Torres can be competitive. But I think Fabio
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Wardley... we'll talk about later is that he's
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like the biggest at 6 '5 or something. Yeah,
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I don't know how tall he is. He doesn't seem
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super tall though. Yeah, 6 '5. He's going to
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be the tallest in the future. The era of big
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heavyweights is over, I think. I think so. Which
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is good, because those giants are fucking boring.
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They don't move. They're so slow. They say the
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bigger you are, the harder they fall. Yeah. They
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never really went up to the kill, you know? I
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see the back. I'm not gonna... Let's bring this
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back around here. Beck the Bully gets a UD over
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Darius Fulgham. How did you say it, Shannara?
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Why is Beck so fucking dumb? Yeah, he makes the
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stupidest fucking decisions I have ever seen
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in the ring. Like, he is so frustrating to watch
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to me because I want him to be good. I can see
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that he could be good if he wasn't fucking stupid.
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He has learned one lesson. Yeah. I did notice
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every time that Fulgham went into a corner, Beck
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backed off and had him come to the center of
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the ring. Never again. That Gabe knockout has
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left him so shocked. That was a good fight. It
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was fine. Like Beck getting a point deducted.
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then the knockdown yeah he's getting docked a
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point for being a fucking idiot dude he told
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you to stop holding like a thousand times what
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the hell is the matter with you and then like
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he was doing good in the first few rounds and
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in the middle rounds he started losing and then
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decided to showboat for some reason that i didn't
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understand And then, like, actually listened
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to his coaches in the last couple rounds, got
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the knockout and the decision. But, like, the
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cards were close. The knockdown, I think, sort
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of swayed the decision either way. Well, because
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he got the point deducted, they evened out. Yeah.
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Yeah, he won 114 -112 on every scorecard. So
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he won by one round. Yeah. He's so frustrating
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to watch because he just does stupid things.
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But he won. It's difficult to prognosticate what
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could be next for Beck just because he's such
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a fucking dumbass. So you want to say, oh, he
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should fight, I don't know, fucking Jermall Charlo.
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And then, like, oh, nope. You're a fucking idiot.
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And Charlo could be right for the picking, but...
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Not by you. Well, I'll tell you this. If they
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really wanted to screw Canelo over, he could
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activate his mandatory. Oh, he's a mandatory
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for which one? I think he's a mandatory now,
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right? I think the WBA? Sounds about right. Either
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mandatory or he has an interim. He's got something.
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The interim WBA is with Resendiz. Oh, no, no,
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no. We'll talk about that right now. Yeah. If
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Beck's going to fight someone next, it should
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be Plant. But we'll talk about that right now
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as well. Well, I think Plant still fights Charlo.
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I don't think anybody cares that he lost. Can
28:20
we get into that right now? Yeah, let's fucking
28:22
boogie. Saturday, May 31st, PBC on Prime at the
28:29
Michelob Ultra Arena in Las Vegas. From the undercard,
28:33
I only have two that I wanted to point out. Kermel,
28:37
Moten. Similar to Eric Priest, but this is different.
28:42
A little different because Kermel's a lot younger.
28:46
Young man, get your rounds in. They're not all
28:51
going to be flashy. social media knockdowns or
28:54
knockouts so whatever man you got the work in
28:58
you won handily so not much to you don't have
29:01
to worry about it people should slow the fuck
29:05
down like let him build himself up let him learn
29:12
a little yeah i have to admit i didn't watch
29:18
this one You gotta be, this is one of those,
29:22
like, you gotta be invested in the prospect kind
29:24
of thing. Yoeli Hernandez beats the ever -loving
29:31
shit out of Kyron Davis. Fucking rest in potatoes,
29:38
because you got mashed, dude. Come on, Leo. I
29:45
thought it was good. It was good, but come on,
29:49
bro. I really liked this fight, actually. I thought
29:55
it was fun. But I don't really like Kyron Davis,
29:59
so it was fun to watch him get his ass kicked.
30:02
Fucking 10 to nothing, plus the knockdown. That's
30:09
a fight where your corner should maybe be like,
30:13
hey, you sure you want to keep doing this? We're
30:18
just putting on mileage, and we are not getting
30:21
anywhere. So, you know how BoxRec also does the
30:26
fan scores, and they can be wildly ridiculous?
30:29
Yeah. Even the fan scores was a clear sweep.
30:33
Nice. Everybody agreed. Yunli's only 7 -0, so
30:38
he's still got time to build himself up. I think
30:42
by that time, the guard should have changed.
30:45
Or will be in the process of changing at the
30:49
top of middleweight. Because right now it's dead
30:51
as shit. There's Johnny Beck and who really gives
30:55
a shit? Who else? Carlos Adamas. Carlos Adamas,
30:59
I guess. And then Elijah Garcia. Also boo. Ramos.
31:09
Oh, there's the Kazik guy. I don't know how to
31:12
say his name. Is it Johnny Beck? Yes. Okay. I
31:20
was looking at his last name. Alim Kanali. Yeah.
31:25
Okay. Sorry. If he was Italian, he'd be Alim
31:29
Kanali. Leo has infected me. Really bad, actually.
31:37
I've been saying some shit that only Leo would
31:39
say. I'm going to tell you next week as well.
31:45
I'm a star people. Excited to see what comes
31:51
from Yuanli. He's kind of... Chiron's like a
31:55
solid test. So this is a good gauge of what we
32:00
can expect out of Yuanli. Looks like WBO's got
32:05
him listed as number six. That's pretty high.
32:11
That's quick. He's not going to get that title.
32:14
Hell no. WBA has him listed as number one under
32:19
Erislandy Lara. Cuba versus Cuba. Of course he
32:23
is. Don't make that fight. Yeah, that's PBC in
32:28
-house. Of course. PBC in -house, Cuba versus
32:31
Cuba. Give it to a young guy. Pass the torch.
32:35
Yep, exactly what I was thinking. That's easy.
32:39
Easy work. What, 87 fights in? I mean, he could
32:44
maybe win it, but I don't know. That seems rushed.
32:47
Yeah, it is. But Lara is also fucking ancient.
32:53
But he's Cuban ancient, which is weird. Like,
32:59
sometimes they just pull youth out of their ass
33:03
somehow. Yeah, being a Cuban anything means nothing.
33:09
You could either be 10 years older than you say
33:12
you are or you're going to continue fighting
33:16
like you're 10 years younger than you are. Far
33:18
longer than you should. Yeah, Cuban ages are
33:22
random. It's fucking weird. Become boring in
33:25
the first half of your career and then a power
33:28
puncher the next half. That's true. Speaking
33:32
of fucking weird. Jamal Charlo gets the doctor
33:39
stoppage over Tommy LaManna, Cornflake, the dude
33:44
who got knocked down three times throughout the
33:47
course of the fight and still showboated. That
33:52
was so weird. It was fucking strange. He won
33:55
the fight for me. He won the story of the night
33:58
for that reason. Cornflake won. Just because
34:03
he just... Plowing on Jamal and Charlo, because
34:05
Charlo should have gotten him out a lot earlier.
34:08
Charlo looked like shit. Oh, he looked bad, dude.
34:12
He looked bad. In my opinion, at least. I was
34:15
on the copium. I was like, yeah, he doesn't look
34:19
that bad. He's just rusty, because he's been
34:22
out of the ring for so long. I said that at first,
34:25
in the beginning of the... When I first watched
34:27
the fight, and then I rewatched it, I was like,
34:29
no, you look bad. Like, really bad. It's not
34:32
the same guy. Not the same Charlo we knew. Not
34:36
even the same Charlo against Benavidez. That's
34:40
a low bar to get over and he still managed to
34:44
fucking trip on it. I really think Charlo's done.
34:49
At least he won this fight. At least he won the
34:51
fight, dude. Some people on boxers don't know
34:55
how to do that. Some boxers who don't know how
35:07
to win when they're supposed to because they're
35:11
setting up a big money fight with their rival
35:15
in the co -main. Caleb Plant drops the fucking
35:19
ball. They gotta stop. They gotta stop with these
35:25
setup cards, man. Just make the fucking fights.
35:29
Every time they even mention the main fight in
35:32
the co -main, it goes to shit. It always goes
35:35
to shit. And we'll talk about that next week.
35:37
We'll talk about it next week, but it always
35:40
goes to shit. Ryan. Fucking Plant. Anthony Joshua,
35:45
dude. They don't know how to... They gotta fucking
35:49
step up. They gotta step it up. Resendez looked
35:55
good, though. I was about to say, let's give
35:57
Resendez his flowers, because he dominated the
36:00
fight. Like, Plant opened up strong, yeah. Got
36:04
the first four pretty clean. After that, it was
36:10
just the Resende show. Completely one -sided.
36:14
Are we going to talk about the fucking Sutherland
36:18
scorecard? Because this was a split decision.
36:23
I know. So bad. David Sutherland gave Caleb Plant
36:29
the last three rounds. That he 100 % fucking
36:33
lost. Absolutely lost them. He tried to paint
36:37
them off. Yeah. You can tell when they turn in
36:41
these bogus fucking cards. That's just crazy.
36:47
And it's always fucking David Sutherland too.
36:50
It's either David Sutherland or Tim Cheatham.
36:52
Yep. 100%. Tim Cheatham be named Tim Cheatham.
36:58
He's the cheap pig. I would never have him be
37:02
a referee in boxing, dude. Just purely on his
37:05
name alone. Tim Cheatham. The big three robbers
37:10
are David Sutherland, Tim Cheatham, and then
37:13
what was the other one? Weisfeld? Steve Weisfeld.
37:16
Steve Weisfeld. And they get to work every fucking
37:19
big fight. Oh, yeah. We've talked about this
37:23
before, Leo, but we need new judges. These guys
37:26
are fucking ancient. Yep. They're losing their
37:30
fucking marbles. Yeah, they're... I swear to
37:34
God, half of them can't see across the fucking
37:37
ring they're so old. That's right. I don't get
37:39
why they don't talk to the judges about why the
37:42
score of the rounds is, you know... I don't either.
37:47
I do not get it. They should do that. I don't
37:51
know why they haven't done that. They should
37:52
have to defend their scores. Exactly. I mean,
37:56
like... And it's worse. Well, and referees get
38:02
interviewed after every major sport event, mostly,
38:05
don't they? Like, I don't watch that many sports.
38:07
I watch hockey. But they'll ask referees questions
38:10
all the time. I'm pretty sure they ask boxing
38:14
referees as well. Yeah. Like, I don't get it.
38:21
I don't get why the judges never have to... Answer
38:25
for fucking anything. I mean, to be honest, this
38:28
isn't the worst card I've ever seen, but it's
38:31
pretty fucking terrible. Yeah. No, no, it's bad.
38:35
It's bad. Those three rounds going to plant make
38:38
no sense. Let's bring it back to Resendiz, because
38:43
he's got options, I think. He holds an interim
38:48
title. And I think right now, this is the perfect
38:54
time for him to secure a big fight. Just because
38:57
the iron is hot. He came in, got the big upset.
39:01
Now's the time to try to sign somebody else that's,
39:05
I don't know, big name. This is 168, right? Yes.
39:13
So that is the one that Beck is the mandatory
39:16
underneath. If Canelo's not going to fight him.
39:21
Beck's a decent name. Yeah. Not terrible. Resendiz.
39:25
Resendiz Beck. Not bad. That could be a bit of
39:29
a war, actually. That might be fun. I mean, Beck
39:32
the Bully's a fun fighter to watch, but he's
39:34
a mom. He's fucking stupid. You have an aggressive
39:38
Mexican fighter versus an aggressive Uzbek? Uzbek,
39:43
yeah. An aggressive Uzbek fighter? That's gangbusters
39:46
right there. Pacheco's ranked in there. Diego
39:54
Pacheco. If he wasn't busy, Hamza sure ass. I
40:04
think Beck's probably the best one to fight.
40:07
Yeah, because I don't think Canelo's going to
40:11
give him a shot. No. Even a rematch with Caleb
40:15
Plant? I don't know. I don't think it goes any
40:19
different. Oh, no. I don't know. I'm just saying
40:23
probably just to, you know... Shut up the haters.
40:26
Yeah, because I've seen a lot of people say that,
40:29
like, Steel Plant was his gas when he was injured.
40:32
You know what I mean? Oh, my ass. Fucking copium.
40:36
I don't know why people are saying something
40:37
about our injury. I didn't hear anything about
40:39
that, but... I still think Plant's gonna fight
40:43
Charlo. I don't think it matters that Plant lost.
40:45
Yeah, I agree with that. They're still going
40:48
to do it. Charlo also looked like shit, so why
40:51
not? I guess. What about William School? No.
40:59
That's bait, Leo. And you know it. 8 -3 -3 -5
41:04
-8 -9 -7 -6 -3 -7. Why is Resendiz vs. William
41:07
School the best fight to make at 168? That does
41:10
not include the title holder. No, why is it the
41:13
worst? Resendiz would do a better job cutting
41:16
off the ring. He would make Canelo look bad.
41:21
I mean, if you really wanted to, like, I guess,
41:25
make Resendiz a bigger name somehow, you can
41:28
make him fight. Wouldn't it be cool? Yeah, if
41:33
you were trying to invest in him. I'm trying
41:35
to, like... Help Leo's case out here just to
41:39
be silly, but it's hurting my soul. Yeah, well,
41:43
no worries. I just like throwing that one out
41:46
because it's fun. It's not. It's the opposite
41:49
of fun, Leo. Leo, you're crazy, man. Yeah, well,
41:54
what can I say? You could say that Resendez should
41:59
fight Beck the Bully. That's what you should
42:01
say. That is an excellent fight, and I do think
42:03
Resendez versus Beck the Bully should happen.
42:05
Absolutely. I think it'd be fun. I also really
42:09
like the name Beck the Bully. It's so good. There's
42:13
that Kazakh dude who's also named Beck. In the
42:16
same weight class, isn't he? Yeah, Beck Normagambet.
42:20
Cool. Beck versus Beck? Yeah. Winner keeps the
42:25
name. Anything more? No. I think we're good.
42:34
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motherfuckers. All right, so previews. Friday,
46:55
June 13th. Holy shit. Dangerous. It's a dangerous
47:01
day. Just kidding. It's fine. In Thomastown,
47:07
Victoria, Australia. PM events at the Q Room.
47:13
Lucas Big Daddy Brown. Remember that name? Maybe
47:19
you don't. If you've only been watching the last
47:22
couple, last few years, you don't know who the
47:25
fuck that is. But just have a look at him. He's
47:28
a very interesting character. Both of these guys
47:32
look like they just came out of a Russian prison.
47:36
I know they're Australian, but... Lucas Brown
47:40
is like fucking head to toe covered in tattoos.
47:44
The other guy's got the three crosses where most
47:48
people get like that teardrop under their eye.
47:51
And his nickname is The Balkan. Wow. That's crazy.
47:59
Well, so yeah, that's David Padovan. One of the
48:04
main reasons I brought this one up is not just
48:06
because Lucas Brown like throwback. He's 31 -6,
48:10
and he's fighting David Padavan, who's 3 -0.
48:14
That's what makes me... I need to find a way
48:18
to watch this. Somehow, someway, I need to watch
48:21
this. Because that's fucking absurd. Yeah, I
48:27
do not think this is going to be a good card
48:29
by any stretch. I don't know. It took me until
48:33
today. I've been looking for a fight poster.
48:37
I found one like an hour ago. Finally. Earlier?
48:43
Yeah. Nice. I don't know who's... PM events is
48:48
all I know. And that's just because they're on
48:49
the tickets. That's all I got. Yeah. Amir Khan
48:57
promotions on DAZN. Their first ever... I think
49:02
it's their first event. It's going to be in Accra,
49:04
Ghana. at the Bukom Boxing Arena. This is like
49:14
Brit slop. It's an event? It is a British event
49:19
with a whole lot of that level of fight. Yeah.
49:27
Headline, Andrew Tabidi versus Jacob Dixon. Fun
49:34
stuff, I know. Like I said on the other podcast,
49:39
I'm kind of excited to see what the crowd dress
49:42
looks like. Because Ghana has some really cool
49:45
clothes. So I'm probably going to tune in just
49:49
to see what the event looks like being held in
49:52
Ghana. Should be fun. Also, just to see what
49:56
the general crowd is like. Yeah, the vibes. Oh,
50:04
speaking of vibes, on Saturday, June 14th, Zan
50:09
for Promotions at the multi -use center in Hermosillo,
50:17
Sonora. This is in Mexico. Now, I said multi
50:21
-use. Multiple use center is what it's called.
50:27
Translated. But in Spanish. It's El Centro. De
50:30
usos multiples. And the acronym is C -U -M. They're
50:39
in the multi -purpose room. They are in the c
50:41
- We gotta keep it professional, huh? Yeah, that's
50:50
where the censorship comes in, unfortunately.
50:53
This is when the Patreon comes in. Yeah, actually.
50:56
If you're curious what happened during that little
50:58
treble break there. You can go check it out.
51:03
So on the Zanfra card, the co -main Camila Encinas
51:08
versus Mika Awokawa. It's an IBF trinket at Adam
51:14
weight. Those are some tiny fucking people. Adam
51:18
weight. Yeah. Wait, hold on. Adam weight? Is
51:25
below minimum, aka straw weight. You have to
51:30
be under 100 pounds. I've never heard of that
51:33
ever in my life. I'm not even joking. This is
51:36
the first time I've ever heard of that. It's
51:38
a lot more common in the MMA side of things,
51:42
like in the grappling tournaments and Muay Thai.
51:49
It's more common because Thai people are a little
51:53
bit smaller than average in the West. Well, I
51:59
don't think any of the boxing belts recognize
52:02
Adam Waite. Just IBF? Does the IBF recognize
52:07
Adam Waite? This fight is for a secondary title
52:11
at the Waite. Sorry, men's Adam Waite is what
52:16
I meant. No, I don't think that any men's divisions
52:21
recognize Adam Waite as a thing. Headlining.
52:29
The box in the... Headlining the Zanfra card.
52:35
Juan Francisco Estrada, one of my favorites ever,
52:40
versus Kareem Arce. I was hoping that... I am
52:45
picturing this being just a train wreck for...
52:47
I was hoping it would be more, just because Estrada's
52:51
moving up to 118, and he was already pretty small
52:54
at 115. So just more and more of a weight disadvantage.
53:02
Honestly, I think Estrada needs to retire soon.
53:06
He's out that time. Yeah. He's 35. He's small.
53:12
I love him, but I don't want him to stick around
53:16
way too long. 49th fight. That's a lot of mileage.
53:23
Well, what in the boxing laundry? In the boxing
53:28
laundry... Hamper. Hamper, okay. I'll always
53:35
say the same. Hamper. But he's like a nice shirt
53:41
that you can't wear once it's too washed. I don't
53:46
know. I just don't want to see Estrada stick
53:48
around too long. I want to remember him being
53:50
amazing. You knocked out Bam. That was his last...
53:55
That is an accolade. It really is. First knockdown
53:59
on Bam. Yeah, I just... I'm more cautious with
54:06
the guys I really like. I want Estrada to leave
54:09
before he has that one fight where everyone's
54:11
like, what the fuck? I don't want him to be like
54:15
Pacquiao. Well, you never know. He could win
54:18
again. He could. You never know. Speaking of
54:22
sticking around too long, Samson in Buenos Aires.
54:28
Donito Donair versus Andres Campos. You might
54:31
remember Campos when he fought Sonny Edwards
54:34
in a really lackluster, one -sided performance.
54:40
So I'm thinking Donair's probably going to knock
54:43
his ass out. That might be why he's there. Because
54:47
Donair, if he... How long has he been out? Let
54:53
me pull up his box right here. His last fight
54:57
was in July 2023. So almost two years. Okay,
55:04
never mind. I'm not sure what to make of this.
55:08
I'm going for Campos now. Yeah, Donair is definitely
55:14
one of those guys that has stuck around too long.
55:17
I really like Nonito Donair, but... He should
55:21
have quit a while ago. And he can still win fights,
55:26
but he's not going to be great again. And they're
55:31
still chasing the dragon. Yeah. I want him to
55:36
retire and... With dignity? Go hang out with
55:40
his wife. I don't know. Maybe that's why he's
55:43
fighting. Get away from her? The only 36 minutes
55:46
that he has of respite. Last thing. Before we
55:51
skedaddle on this one. Matchroom at the MSG Theater.
55:59
I have only two on here that I care about, and
56:05
I picked up four. Ernesto Mercado versus Jonathan
56:10
Montrell. It is a fight. Yeah, I don't... have
56:21
any opinion on this one. Alexis Barrier versus
56:27
Ronnie Hines. I don't have an opinion on that
56:33
one either. Barrier is Canadian, so I guess I'll
56:40
cheer for him. And he's fighting an American.
56:44
So I guess I'll cheer for the Canadian, even
56:46
if he is French. That is double cheer. Wow. The
56:51
French subtracts one, so it's just normal amounts.
56:58
Andy Cruz versus Hironori Mishiro. Twelve round
57:05
fight. Alright. Is that a first? I think so.
57:11
I think it is. Let me make sure. I kind of get
57:16
the feeling that Mishiro's just coming in to
57:20
lose or he's being brought in so he'll lose is
57:24
what I should say. I'm sure he'll try his best.
57:27
They always do that. Yeah, I'm just saying. I
57:31
don't think he's really a big threat to Andy
57:35
Cruz. Well, we'll see what happens with that.
57:41
This is his first 12 rounder. And IBF super lightweight
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champion Richardson Hitchens versus third rated
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George Kambosos. He's still doing it. How? Why?
58:04
Make it stop. Some way he's still doing it. I
58:09
do not care about this fight at all. I'm watching
58:14
it. I am watching it. Didn't say I wouldn't watch
58:18
it. I said I don't care. I would another way.
58:21
It's gonna be boring. Isn't it? Yeah, I think
58:27
so. Hitchens does not lend himself to exciting
58:30
fights. Cambosos talks a lot of shit that's usually
58:34
pretty cringey. And he doesn't back it up very
58:39
well. So, what are we doing here, guys? Right,
58:44
do I want... Like, I want Richardson Hitchens
58:49
to lose, but I don't want George Kambosos to
58:52
win. I do want George Kambosos to win, actually.
58:58
Why? Just to stick it to the man. To trigger
59:03
the lips. What man? Kambosos. It would be more
59:11
funny if Kambosos won. It would actually be pretty
59:14
fucking hilarious if he won. So I'm going to
59:17
go with that. It's not a good reason to pick
59:21
someone to win. I would very much not be upset
59:24
if George Kambosos lost. I don't know. I think
59:30
he's going to lose, but I'm going to be rooting
59:32
for him. Yeah. Richard in itches is not a fun
59:36
fighter. He is not. Let's just keep the fucking
59:40
the funny train going. Yeah, fuck yeah. Win a
59:45
title at another division. Why not? Why don't
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you just go ahead and become undisputed at this
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division and then move up and win another title.
59:55
I guess Tiofimo rematch. I was just going to
59:58
say Kambosis wins another belt and we have the
1:00:01
third Lopez fight. It would have to be a third
1:00:08
Haney fight. But second... He only fought Lopez.
1:00:12
He only fought Tio Fimo once. Oh, he didn't rematch
1:00:17
Tio Fimo? Tio Fimo ducked him. What a fucking
1:00:23
loser. Then yeah, I want Cambosis to win a belt
1:00:26
and I want the Tio rematch. Oh, that would be...
1:00:29
Make it so. And you know what? Then you have
1:00:34
Alberto Pueo unify with Gary Antoine Russell,
1:00:39
and the winner of that fight is going to fight
1:00:42
the winner of Teofimo and George Gambosos. Yeah,
1:00:47
let's do it. And only then will we have an undisputed
1:00:49
fighter at 140 once again. George Gambosos Jr.
1:00:55
You know what? I do want George Gambosos to win.
1:00:58
Yeah. I've talked myself into wanting Gambosos
1:01:02
to win. Fuck, I gotta cheer for him now. Is this
1:01:05
boxing brain rot at its finest? Yes, absolutely.
1:01:08
That is absolutely what this is. Do it for the
1:01:12
memes, Cambo. The memes. That's why we're...
1:01:16
Yeah, that's really what I'm here for. Richard
1:01:21
Hitchens fought Liam Parrow last, right? That's
1:01:24
what we got the title? Yeah. So, Liam Parrow
1:01:28
fought Matias. Matias fought... I don't even
1:01:32
know who we got it from. I forgot. I have no
1:01:37
idea. Honestly, honestly, dude, there's a...
1:01:39
That bell is cursed. I think it... I mean, Ken
1:01:43
Moses has a good shot. Just because that bell
1:01:45
is so cursed. You got it from Jeremias Ponce.
1:01:50
Yeah. 2023. Don't know who that is. It's a vacant.
1:01:54
That was the same night as David Benavidez in
1:01:56
Andrade, right? I do not have that kind of memory,
1:02:01
guys. I'm being silly. It doesn't even matter.
1:02:05
No, he was the headline. The brain and eyes consumed
1:02:08
me. No, I'm saying it was the same night. Oh,
1:02:11
the same night. Anything more for Kambosis? No.
1:02:17
As we cheer him on to victory. Goddamn. Alright.
1:02:23
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a brain rot memes only weekend. Parting words.
1:03:51
Yeah. What do the kids say these days? Skibbity
1:03:58
toilet? Jesus Christ. Yeah, they do. That's my
1:04:03
parting words. That's all you're going to say?
1:04:12
That's all I'm going to say. Skibbity toilet.
1:04:15
Okay. So the brainwrap has fully consumed us.
1:04:19
Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, my parting
1:04:27
words are going to be no parting words at all.
1:04:30
Well. This is great. This is why people listen.
1:04:34
This is why you're here. All right. Let's fucking
1:04:39
get out of here then. If that's all. If we have
1:04:41
no parting words. Virtually none anyway. And
1:04:46
that's it for this episode of the Boxing B -Sides.
1:04:49
We'll see you on the other side of George Kambosos.