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Takeo Spikes, Goldie Taylor, Chef JJ & Ryan Delaire · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: guest is the founding chief executive and Managing Director of
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  Speaker 1: gold As g O l d i E, a full
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  Speaker 1: cultural anthropologist, she is a pioneer and culturally relevant purpose
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  Speaker 1: my all time favorite campaigns by Proctor and Gambles My
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  Speaker 1: black is Beautiful. I can tell you how many times
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  Speaker 1: I was part of that tour when I was doing radio.
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  Speaker 1: She has been a featured political analysts on NBC News, MSNBC, CNN,
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  Speaker 1: and HLN. Has been a guest on program such as
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  Speaker 1: HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, The Dr Field Show,
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  Speaker 1: The Steve Harvey Show, Good Morning America, and and is
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  Speaker 1: on the show today to discuss a book that I
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  Speaker 1: read this weekend called Paper Guards by Goldie Taylor. Please
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  Speaker 1: welcome to my show, Money Making Conversations, my guests Goldie Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: Gonna Mons McDonald. All, I am go. There have we
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  Speaker 1: met before? No, I don't know that I have. I
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  Speaker 1: know that we must be only one and we have
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  Speaker 1: degree of who do you know? We both up? You know,
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  Speaker 1: let's see Steve Harvey show that that go. Did she
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  Speaker 1: come on the show? You know? I was sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the room just you know, sometimes sometimes there's something that
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  Speaker 1: but queer having you on the show. And where are
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  Speaker 1: you at? Where are you based at? Let's get that
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  Speaker 1: started first. I'm right here in sunny down town North Bockhead. Good. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this book we're going to talk about the book, but
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about and bring my fans up
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  Speaker 1: to speed on basically your brain who you are and
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  Speaker 1: what you represent, and you have an opinion, you have thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: and you share those thoughts on the ongoing basis what
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  Speaker 1: drives you, Goldie? You know, I think if there's anything
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  Speaker 1: change the trajectory of all that they are and do,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, and I think everybody sort of socialized
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  Speaker 1: a certain way. I was raised in a place called
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  Speaker 1: the St. Louis, just on the easterly branks of Date
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  Speaker 1: with large and you know, this is a tough place,
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  Speaker 1: you know then and it is today. And I just realized,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as Barack Obama was coming to grow Um
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  Speaker 1: as Senate as as the nominally elect in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seven headed towards the presidency, that as senator from Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: he had never been to East St. Louis. So even
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  Speaker 1: the U. S senator for a state hadn't been there.
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  Speaker 1: And it sort of let me know right away that
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not that he didn't care about it,
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  Speaker 1: something more or people who lived that life. The decent
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  Speaker 1: Louis itself did not have voice, that we did not
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  Speaker 1: have a platform for the issues that were most important,
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  Speaker 1: most salient to us in our lives. And I decided
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  Speaker 1: one morning I woke up, I said I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be that voice. And everything or everything wrong in America,
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  Speaker 1: I said, it is wrong in East St. Louis. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everything from you know, infrastructure and social institution breakdown at
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  Speaker 1: our family issues to taxation, everything wrong. And so I
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  Speaker 1: just started to talk about those issues out loud and
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  Speaker 1: right about them. And I happen to have a client
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  Speaker 1: at the time. Uh NBC, what's the client? And we
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  Speaker 1: were on the tail end of my Black is Beautiful
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  Speaker 1: when I signed them on as a client, and I
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  Speaker 1: wrote a column about Sale Talor and she had become,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the selection for UM John McCain to beat
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  Speaker 1: her vice presidential running being vice presidential run. I wrote
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  Speaker 1: that column and it went viral. I wrote the column,
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  Speaker 1: it was posted on ebony jet dot com, and I
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  Speaker 1: started getting letters from as far away as Venezuela and Guatemala,
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  Speaker 1: uh email from Singapore, and knew that now something had
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  Speaker 1: been captured, and I just began to write and write
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  Speaker 1: and write. And within weeks, you know, I was on
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  Speaker 1: the Rachel Radof show, I was doing Lasso with Laurence O'Donnell,
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  Speaker 1: I was doing within a six months, John Lemon every weekend. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly as somebody just hired me. They just took me
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  Speaker 1: up to the street. And so I went to work
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  Speaker 1: for NBC News full time as a political ass and
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  Speaker 1: that's really where the national platform began. But I had
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  Speaker 1: been writing all of my life. I just decided one
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  Speaker 1: morning I was going to put that passion to work
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  Speaker 1: on behalf of people who Astra was did not have
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  Speaker 1: the voice mescessary to have the issues. Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 1: I created this show, to just let people hear these stories,
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  Speaker 1: because they only hear the the the in effect, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're there and and this is this is this
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  Speaker 1: is a passion and you wrote on passion. And but
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to go back to something
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  Speaker 1: that I mentioned in your credits. Uh you know my
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  Speaker 1: Black is Beautiful, uh is, which is an amazing campaign.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to talk about, how do just give
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  Speaker 1: me You know, you were at the forefront of being
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  Speaker 1: the voice of making that happen. Tell me a campaign
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  Speaker 1: that that became that relevant in our society. How did
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  Speaker 1: they come about? What was the what were the stages
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  Speaker 1: and making that because there was a lot of yes,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of nose, There was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of and just you know decisions that had to be
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  Speaker 1: made before I got launched. How does the campaign like
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  Speaker 1: that get launched? Well, it was a tough launched. We
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  Speaker 1: were at a small boutique agency in New York City
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  Speaker 1: places called Lippi Taylor founded by a woman named Maureen Lippy,
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  Speaker 1: and we had a client proctat Gamble, which they had
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  Speaker 1: a small piece of that business. One of their assistant
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  Speaker 1: vice presidents name is Nigel Tito Read came into our
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  Speaker 1: offices one afternoon with a product manager, King Eric Kings,
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  Speaker 1: and again another young woman named Emo, three young black
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  Speaker 1: executives from procting Gamble, and Nigel began to tell us
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  Speaker 1: the story. You know, Nijo is a very dark complexioned
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  Speaker 1: woman and been to tell her a story about when
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  Speaker 1: she was a child, she her mother brought her her
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  Speaker 1: first Bobbie dolls, took the dolls outside the play and
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  Speaker 1: she lived in a predominantly white neighborhood and the little
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  Speaker 1: white girls told her her dolls couldn't play with them,
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  Speaker 1: that her dolls were ugly, that they could be the
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  Speaker 1: maid if they were going to play, And so neither
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  Speaker 1: went home crying, and she sent her mother. They told
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  Speaker 1: him my dolls were They said, I couldn't play with them,
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  Speaker 1: And she said, don't you know that black is beautiful?
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  Speaker 1: The Nigel is, you know, at her middle forties today
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  Speaker 1: and so we're talking about, you know, the mid seventies
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  Speaker 1: when this all went down. Um that night, her mother
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  Speaker 1: put her first coffee of Essence and Evony magazine on
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  Speaker 1: her pulle before she went to there. And so Nigel said,
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  Speaker 1: I just want everybody to know that black is a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful and I think that there is a campaign in
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  Speaker 1: that and I don't know what it is. Can we
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  Speaker 1: talk about that? And so what was supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: an hour meeting went on for a three or four
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  Speaker 1: until it was time for him to hit the plane
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  Speaker 1: to hit back to Cympinematic. And what I said to
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  Speaker 1: her during the conversation was, you know, blackness is a
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  Speaker 1: personal thing. That we begin to talk about her colorism
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  Speaker 1: and what my perspective on blackness is and how I
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  Speaker 1: come to it. It's a very personal thing. And so
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  Speaker 1: if you qualify it with my and make it personal,
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  Speaker 1: then you had something. And so we began to talk
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  Speaker 1: about what that meant. You know, that's the white boy
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  Speaker 1: drive races out all through home, all through home to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: That night, it had stayed with me, what is my
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  Speaker 1: what does my blackest muticle with me? And I turned
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  Speaker 1: it over to a vice servant who was working for
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  Speaker 1: me on my team at that time. I signed a
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  Speaker 1: heat and she wrote a poem. No one wrote that
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  Speaker 1: poem for about three days, just hung around in our
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  Speaker 1: email box, and Nija and I happened to open it
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  Speaker 1: on the same evening and we called it to the
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  Speaker 1: stream and it was the original my blackest beautiful poem.
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  Speaker 1: And from that poem, I said, this is a national
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  Speaker 1: conversation on the phone. Is Goldie Taylor an incredible political
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  Speaker 1: analysts Her new book Paper guards At novel of money,
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  Speaker 1: race and politics. Uh, you can, it's in the stores
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  Speaker 1: right now, correct, Cody, it is. Indeed, it is. One
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  Speaker 1: of my friends called at each side of consto eating
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  Speaker 1: there is everywhere. There's five books or slow from Barnes
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  Speaker 1: and Noble to Goads, go to wal martin Target and
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  Speaker 1: get online the course of Amazon. Let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: some this is uh. I I tell people because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a right from the sitcom writer, no novelist, and it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, I see this book as a movie. I
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  Speaker 1: see this book as a series. I see this book
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  Speaker 1: our television opportunities coming your way because of your writing.
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  Speaker 1: Because this book, if it got optioned out, I would
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  Speaker 1: not be shocked. It was preemptive and so and that
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  Speaker 1: means it was brought as options as a dramatic series
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  Speaker 1: prior to its publication, and so, uh what we can't
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  Speaker 1: say who did it? The pre emption happened in June.
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  Speaker 1: The book came out in October, and now we're on
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  Speaker 1: to write the sequel, and so we are for paper
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  Speaker 1: Gods has had uh some immediate sus. I think based
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  Speaker 1: on it's it's stronger, it's stronger storytelling, based on its characterization,
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that Atlanta, Hollywood is still enamored with us. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they're not only none with our tax class for bringing film,
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  Speaker 1: so they're none of how things worked out here. And
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  Speaker 1: so we're looking to not just based production to the
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  Speaker 1: septum here and that's a different thing. Um. And so
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot, a lot more of that. Donald
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  Speaker 1: Glover's Atlanta as a prot so that it extordinar in
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  Speaker 1: the world. But the people are frankly intrigued with us
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  Speaker 1: as a city, and so paper guys went very quickly. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm working on a number of other original projects
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  Speaker 1: today that are both colevism and film. But enjoying, enjoying
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  Speaker 1: this brand new career for me. Well, congratulations, so that
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't shocked, you know, like I said, you right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it's it's it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: I've been fortunate by life. Are born in the inner
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  Speaker 1: City and I've went to all black high school with
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  Speaker 1: the University of Houston, which is a dominant white institution,
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  Speaker 1: And these lifestyles that we live, these stories that you
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  Speaker 1: tell a layered in this book, where you see success,
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  Speaker 1: and you see the street talk, you see the political talk,
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  Speaker 1: you see the society talk, and you have to all
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  Speaker 1: these layers. And I feel that the life that you
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  Speaker 1: live allows you to will be able to communicate these
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  Speaker 1: different stories. But it's just amazing. I feel fortunate to
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  Speaker 1: be able to share your story and I want to
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  Speaker 1: promote this, So please send me your any banners that
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  Speaker 1: you have taken promoted on my social social media here,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Taylor. Sure, so we've got a number of them. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Publisher has done. St. Martin's Press has been very good
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  Speaker 1: to me in terms of helping across promote this book
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  Speaker 1: across social media within bookstores and so we've been I've
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  Speaker 1: been busted, to say the least, with you know, this
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  Speaker 1: being my third novel, I knowing what I'm wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm headed out to the Los Angeles Accessible Books in
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  Speaker 1: April UM to speak on a panel about writing your
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  Speaker 1: political thrillers than this trumpion era. So what that's like, um?
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  Speaker 1: And how close to the bones can you really get
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  Speaker 1: when you write thrillers such as these? Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the complications have really come along with that. And so
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  Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a good good time for
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  Speaker 1: me writing wise, but to be able to do it
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  Speaker 1: and live and live in love here in Atlanta's own
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  Speaker 1: a new book, Paper Guards by Goldie Taylor's and the stores. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I wanna thank you for coming on my show. An amazing,
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  Speaker 1: amazing read, uh, A novel of money raising politics based
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta. The sequel is coming, It's gonna be on TV.
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  Speaker 1: Keep winning We'll be right back with more from Marsan McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: to do it yourself networks, but the food industry, the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: cooking show industries his own version of do it yourself. Correct,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: But they just don't say do it yourself right? Correct?
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: You're right? Uh, it is truly do it yourself that
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: they're not telling you that, they're giving you that support,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: that backbone to make you feel like they're there and
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: then you are truly doing it yourself like we're doing
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: it on just so I know, because because I watched it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I watched a show, you know, I watched the show
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and I go, okay, okay, let's see what they're doing. Okay,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and I get mad if they don't give me the recipe.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: You know, That's that just drives me easy when I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: see something good on TV and I want to make
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it and I don't have the recipe. So tell us
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: about your little history of how you got how you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: got started, because I want to talk about this, uh,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: this restaurant that you have. Uh it was something on
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the menu that that that really caught my attention. But
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: tell me how you got started this, yef, because you
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: know I'm I'm an award winning baker. I got started
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: baking like four years ago. That's how I got started.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, so I got started about fifteen years ago.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I was literally just what did lu Shan is just
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: hobby fying out here. You're just telling people I'm award
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: winning baker. This is what he do. Follow his instructions,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you know, said I want one of those ties or
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: send it to me. Absolutely absolutely. Um So yeah, I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: started the kitchen super young when my grandmother got me
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: starting to kitchen really young. Um, and she made it
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: really fun for me. UM. So I used to spend
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: time in the kitchen. I didn't really watched cartoons or anything.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Cooking was my cartoon. UM. Kind of fast forward love cooking.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: We try to do family birthday dinners and mess up
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: people's birthdays trying to cook something that my mom would
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: allow me to cook. Um. But they were really feeling
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: me or getting me prepared for what I'm doing now.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And then about the age of fourteen, I started working
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: as a dishwasher at a country clubs to ride my bike,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: my bike back and forth. So I grew up in
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the northeast Pennsylvania and the Poconos. Um. I wrote my
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: bike back and forth. I went to culinary school and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: coloring stud of America and then wind up working in
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: New York City. While while I was working in New
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: York City, I lived with family in Harlem. Um, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I've been in Harlem ever since now for about fifteen years. Regulations, Now,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: what are you And one of the restaurants that you
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: have was every at Life Hotel. Yes, okay cool, And
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that's in the Nomad district. If anybody knows that's that's
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: kind of like it called North of Madison Square and uh,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: it's a really I guess it's it's a whole neighborhood
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: like just transforming. Correct, Yeah, the neighborhood is really transforming.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: It's a transforming neighborhood. We're on We're on a block
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that's transforming. You would know it as back in the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: day as like Midtown or little Little West Africa or
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Korea Town. So we're like one block away from Korea towns.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So were thirty first Street between fits and six Um
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Henry in the Life Hotel or Henry by j J.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And let me just the setting is in Manhattan. Manhattan
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and New York City is where we're talking about the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: restaurant location. Now, there's a couple of you know, I'm
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a foodie, so immediately when I when it was coming
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to my show, I had to go to the menu.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I had to go to the menu. What called my
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: eye with the colleg green salad. Oh yeah, that's the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: color green salad is an infamous see college greasy. Everybody
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: up on college green salad. So you know, so that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: means that, Okay, it's the college greens are not cooked,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: they're treated like lettish. Correct, colle greens are not cooked
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: at all. You know, Cale has been getting all this
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: credit in the last ten years. Right the greens I've worked,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Collar greens have worked harder than kal. So I wanted
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to give you know, I want to give Kyla Green
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: some type of a different breath or knowing that you
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: can eat coylar green draw and it's really good for
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you to stem in everything. So it's a color green salad.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: It feels like a chop salad. It comes to some
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: red beans, cucumbers, and like in a coconut dressing. Okay,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: now now that's that's genius right there. Now you're in
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the kitchen. Now you're the mad scientist, right So this
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: is a mad scientist salad. Okay, I'm just telling y'all.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I eat everywhere. I eat everywhere. I had the collar
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: green soup I was and I was in flying biscuit
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: yesterday I had this scrambled eggs and colar green with bacon.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: So I've never had the college green salad. So this
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: is a mad scientist mix. So, so you you're telling
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: people you're you're thinking about this idea, Well, how did
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you look at you did look at you, like, really
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: j J. Really you think. I mean, people look at
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: people look at me crazy all the time with the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: colle green salad. I think I sold the cole greens
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and salt water will make them tender. They think a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: branch them in water. No, I just treat the colar green. Truly.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: There's a collar green that we're buying the store. It's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: not a baby colar green. It's not a super baby colargreen.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: This is this is a colar green um. And it's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: it's really nice. It's it's something that is familiar but
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: unfamiliar um. And it's something that you can truly do
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: at home. You can get these colar greens and you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you can put chicken on top of salmon or some
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you some steak, you know. So so you know, I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: just taking you along the journey of the African diaspora
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and kind of paying homage and respect to the flavors
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of who we are and kind of what we do. Okay, cool,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Okay, So you got the beans
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in there, you got the quem. I think they they're
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: assuming you a slice. Cucumbers are chopped cup cumbers that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you have in this house, thinly sliced cucumbers. You have
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to sled cucumbers and cash you some candy, cash shoes
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and red bean candy. Yeah, just mad scientist. I like it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I like that you called me the mad scientists. Who
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: has ever had candy Cashi's I'm just sorry, that's candypycns. Okay,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: yea all that? Okay, Now the coconut dressy, the coconut dressy,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: tell me about that. So coconut dressing is uh, just
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: some coconut milk, a little bit of bird's eye chili,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: cumin um, blended oil, some shallot. And the kid is
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that the spice and the the spice and the coconut
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: dressing will cut through the bitterness of the color green.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So it gives it a really nice balance. So if
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you don't have like bird's eye chili, you could use chipotle,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: or you can use some other type of chili that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you really love. So another thing he caught my eye
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and I really didn't understand. It was called it was
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: all a dream. That was all the dream we used
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to reword of magazines. Um, if you can get the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: whole on you. So I saw you get one of everything.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I said that you should share with fortified people. So
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it's a big celebration at the table. You're having this
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: ultimate dream meal. Um and uh, I just referenced after
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the Biggie song. I'm telling you see, he knows I've
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: looked at his menus. You know. Do you get to
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: sweet potato pie too? That's your dessert? Did you get
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that sleeperteato pie? You gotta get the legendary if we
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: do it with purple yam, you know, you have to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: get coking on ice cream. You know, we're really we're
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: really taking it. Oh my goodness, so so so. The
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: thing about it, I really really when I talk about food,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I really like talking to people who enjoy food. You
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: enjoy food, You enjoy the kitchen experience. I'm assuming it
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: goes back to your childhood when he was in the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: kitchen and and then being able to look at other people.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Are you washing dishes? Being able to see other people
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: do something that you want to do it it's a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: passion for you, right j J. Yeah, it's a big
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: passion for me. You know. Um, the reason why I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: love cooking food and really fortunate in having one restaurant
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: right now and the second one coming as I'm connecting
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: people every day. And the greatest connector's food. So if
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm able to do it with the food that I
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: truly love to cook and give you these amazing nostalgic
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: moment um, then I've done my job and to keep
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: me going to the next dayl I will be in
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: New York tomorrow, my friend. Okay, amazing, So so I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: should see you tomorrow. You will see me tomorrow night.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I swear to you you will see me tomorrow night. Um,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I will definitely want to try this colleague green salad.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I'm telling your front um, I haven't ready for you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I will be and I just wanted to just don't
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: put no chicken one in another. I just want to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: because that's that's that's just such a great level of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: curiosity for me. I know it's gonna taste great. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: then so because the the restaurant opens at five thirty
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and correct, yes, you know, I'll be on top of
• 26:06
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• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I had amazing time with this interview. Again, Uh, incredible chef.
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• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Will be taking pictures, putting on my social media because man,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I got to get the college green salad. I can't
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: wait to see you. Thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: has experienced the highs and lows of professional football right now.
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  Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do? You shape that?
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  Speaker 1: What do you do with that opportunity? Well, he's doing
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• 30:05
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• 30:08
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Ryan Delaire. Yeah, are
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  Speaker 1: You got a TV show that you're creating that you're
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  Speaker 1: traveling around the country. Tell us how that concept started
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  Speaker 1: and tell us um the first tell us how the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: concept started. It's called low Key Lit. Yeah. So with
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: low Key Lit, I came up with the concept. I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: basically was traveling, you know, from different places, you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: from state to state. My um, I think second year
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  Speaker 1: after the season with my agent, you know, I went
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  Speaker 1: to the When did I go to I went to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in Houston. I had a couple of
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  Speaker 1: had I went to the All Star Game that year.
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  Speaker 1: Then I traveled to Miami. Says I traveled to Miami.
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  Speaker 1: So then, thinking back to when I was doing that,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, if I'm traveling to all these
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  Speaker 1: different places, I should try to monetize it or you know,
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• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I was going to all these like you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to know what were the best places to eat
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  Speaker 1: when I was in those locations. So I came up
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  Speaker 1: with the concept of low Key Lit because I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be the guy that everybody can reach out to
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  Speaker 1: if they wanted to know what place to eat in
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  Speaker 1: a certain city. So I basically came up with the
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  Speaker 1: show I wanted. It's called low key Lit because I
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: go to the places that are literally low key and
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  Speaker 1: they're lit. Like places are like, you know, not many
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  Speaker 1: people would know about. You know, they're like my pop shops,
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  Speaker 1: but like you know, just like everyone else, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Mama pop shops have like some of the best flavors
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  Speaker 1: you know I went to a place. Yeah, I went
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  Speaker 1: to a place in Atlanta one time, and I had
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to put them on my show called Mr. Everything. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's a really nice place to have like you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: steam veggies. Everything was grilled over rice. You know, steam
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  Speaker 1: veggies was like a certain meat, whether it's like salmon, um, chicken,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. And they would have like really great food.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to put them on the show. That
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  Speaker 1: was one of my first episodes when I was growing.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I just love the fact that I
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  Speaker 1: can go to these hidden gems and show my perspective
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: of it from my athletes perspective, and I would just
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: put a you know, plenty of my different teammates on
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: there as well. Now he's just there for the athletes perspective. See,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not an athlete. I was just a regular eater now,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know. So with that being said, what what what
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: are the you said? The criteria basically is these hidden jams,
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  Speaker 1: you know, low profile, but you know everybody knows somebody
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: enough people don't don't know about them. So you go in,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you're dine and now I see a camera. Is a
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  Speaker 1: camera crew follow you around us? The actual camera is
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it a iPad? Is it a your iPhone? Well? How
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  Speaker 1: are you? How is this show being shot? So it's
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: being shot with um a camera. We we shot with
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a Sony camera. Then I shot with the cannon camera.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't have like two cameraman with me,
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  Speaker 1: And basically I would and I would basically go to
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  Speaker 1: the restaurant, talk to him, discuss what I was doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't have it everything within contract. I would
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  Speaker 1: do a press release just a you know, just for
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  Speaker 1: legal purposes. Um. Yeah, you don't want to go in
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: there with no kind of dination right there? You know
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Everything is, yeah, exactly. You know you
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  Speaker 1: want to start tapping on the show. Excuse me, sir, sir,
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  Speaker 1: sir sir with all these cameras, who let you all
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  Speaker 1: in here my show? So you got no yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: you definitely wanted to everything to be business business oriented.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So with that, I basically I have my two camera man,
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  Speaker 1: I'll create a whole blueprint of how I want everything orchestrated,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and we just go in and we shoot. Here here's
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• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I would do it more like, uh like an iPhone style,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: so it feels like it feels like it feels like
• 34:53
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  Speaker 1: you just invite them into the world. I just just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit advice. You can take it or you can,
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  Speaker 1: like uh later on let it marinate. But if you
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  Speaker 1: I dude, I would watch that. And I said I
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• 35:27
  Speaker 1: production back and forth with you, because you're the executive
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: producer talking. I'm an executive producer talking, and then we
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: can let our listeners know how how to top producers
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: talk and developing the TV show what are your thoughts
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: when I say, hey, you know, let's let's let's bring
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  Speaker 1: down the quality and make it more like a personal journey,
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  Speaker 1: and you you just happen to be eating there and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: it just popped off like that. Yeah. Yeah, I basically,
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  Speaker 1: um I did. I did a point of view basically
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like a blog. Setting did that, but I merely did
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that for when I was traveling, So I yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: did that. So I have like two different productions. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: have like the low key lit like when I actually
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: have a production like it's an episode, and I have
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: local lit vlogs. So when I did like the local
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: lit vlogs, I actually went to um Columbia like in
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: South America, and I had a vlog of just doing
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: different things while I was out there that people probably
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  Speaker 1: never knew I was out there in Colombia. And I
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  Speaker 1: did like Paraglider, I did a TV writing and I
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  Speaker 1: just sold the whole Yeah, and then I did also
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  Speaker 1: what it was like to be m hmm, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's some fun stuff. And so but no, but no
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  Speaker 1: camera crew was falling around. You just kind of like
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  Speaker 1: doing it yourself yeah, I have my my camera had
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  Speaker 1: a go pro and I had my phone. That's how
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  Speaker 1: I just yeah, and I just wanted to show raw
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: footage of how everything is, how everything is you know,
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  Speaker 1: over there. So that was really good. But like when
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I usually do my traveling, I usually try to blog that.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: But like for the production of the of the show,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: when I'm you know, at the restaurant, I probably did
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: one episode and I was just blogging and I had
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the camera to interview on me. But majority of the time,
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  Speaker 1: I'm make it, you know, a quality. I'm making it
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  Speaker 1: like a pretty good quality episode. Well, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: it's not I'm just saying that what I'm asking you
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  Speaker 1: to do is not a quality. It's just it's just
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  Speaker 1: that when you with low key, low key lit, you
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  Speaker 1: know that it's a it's really a cool concept and
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  Speaker 1: it's from your point of view. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: the camera has to be on you. You know, you
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: can turn when you I'm just telling you, is that
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: advising you? Because like I said, I love your idea.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be pitching your idea, wouldn't have you on
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the show. I wanted to bring on the show just
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to talk to you and let people know that if
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you have a dream, you can do it yourself. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. You know, he's taking it upon himself.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: He has a time, and he's doing it himself, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: he's putting it on YouTube. So where can people find
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: episodes of your show? So all you have to do
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: is to go to low Key lit. It's um. All
• 38:12
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• 38:16
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• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a separate word, and type that into YouTube and then
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you can see the episodes. I have about like probably
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: eight or ten episodes on there where you can see,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: or you can just go to my Instagram and I
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• 38:46
  Speaker 1: when I went to a coffee shop that had creeps,
• 38:48
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• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you'll see all my episodes absolutely so so far. What's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: your favorite restaurant you've been talk been too so far
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: just in this country business. A restaurant that you that
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you feature so far, not feature that just experienced they
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: want to go back. I mean I just moved to Houston. Okay,
• 39:14
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• 39:17
  Speaker 1: my counting now Okay, Yeah, I went to Houston and
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: like one of my favorite spats I was here was
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: called crab Kings. I know, Craft Kings, seventeen thousand views.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that episode that you had on the seventeen
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: thousand views. Yeah, that that restaurant was at a high level.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: The food, the quality, you know, the how they were
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  Speaker 1: running their business, you know, running the run of the businesses.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: It's just as important. That's how good the food is.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: To some people forget that. But the way everything was
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  Speaker 1: orchestrated over there was at a high level. So that
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: was one of my favorite favorite restaurants. Well, let me
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: tell you something. My nephew he has a Big six Barbecue.
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  Speaker 1: It's on Highway six. I kid you, not the best
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• 40:08
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  Speaker 1: Even barbecue for the Texas football team during the summer.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: But these are these hidden gyms that you're talking about.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: But if you're in Houston, I want to talk to
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you some more because of the fact that I like
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: your idea, I like your concept because I would tell
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  Speaker 1: you have You're more hyper and you're more more are
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  Speaker 1: animated in that video than you were in your other videos.
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• 40:48
  Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on the show man
• 40:50
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• 40:54
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• 44:28
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  Speaker 1: my man or that voice, that voice, making money with
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  Speaker 1: I got your book here. It's uh, it's called the Mask.
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  Speaker 1: Now behind the Mask. First of all, you are helm
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: with all your life. Now you say the mask, is
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  Speaker 1: there any reference there are helmet mask or you just
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: mask me something else? Yeah, it was I came up
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  Speaker 1: with the title just thinking about every day people. We
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: used to say, you know what, um, I know what
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you look like. But when we look at the rest
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: of the guys, when we try to relate to a
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: lot of the guys who were playing the game, we
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: can't see you because of the mask. And so for me,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: that kind of triggered something in my mind to say,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you know what, I want to go behind the mask.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reason why I titled my book behind the Mask.
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  Speaker 1: Because everybody has a story to be told, and regardless
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: of whatever chosen field endeavor that you're chasing, you have
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  Speaker 1: a mask. And so that's why My book is titled
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Behind the Mask because I wanted to go behind the
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: mask to figure out what makes you tick, what makes
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you so different. So let's talk about this book, Man
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the Mask. Uh. First of all, I'm a football nut,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: you know, and in high school, junior high, they's called
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: me black high sale. And so when I see you
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: see Chuck ben Derrick, that's see to have that name
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  Speaker 1: That's that's some deep that's some legendary names right there.
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  Speaker 1: And then you got Bobby Belle, Kansas City chief who
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  Speaker 1: him and Willing and there said both of them boys,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: simple tell you something important. This book is from an
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: African Americans perspective because she back in the day, you
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: knew that white players were only reserved for certain positions.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: You know, middle linebacker you had to be white, center
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you had to be white, and quarterback he had to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: be quiet. So Willing there was my first, I'm gonna
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: tell you my first hero because he played that position.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, no, the importance of
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: this book when you start, when you start lining up everybody,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: when you start doing what you've done, you know, and
• 46:47
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  Speaker 1: The Eyes saw him yesterday. The eyes, though, brother, be
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the eyes. And then you, why did you do this
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: book and why did you focus on linebackers? I focused
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: on linebackers because my concept of behind the Mask it
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: had no intentions of having these other cast members on,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: these other great men, great leaders. But the more I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: thought about it, and the more I saw a gap.
• 47:41
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  Speaker 1: whenever you want to meet somebody, everybody has a need
• 47:47
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• 47:49
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• 47:52
  Speaker 1: stories told, and some of their stories being told, it
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: was either either diluted or it was not told to
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the extent with the passion that it deserved. And so
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: for me, I was like, you know what this is
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Not only will I share my story, I'm gonna go
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: around an interview every guy, and every linebacker comes from
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a different decade, you talked about Willie Lanier knowing the
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: history of the game. This is not just a football book.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: It's a book about leadership. It's a book about perseverance,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: it's a book about discipline. And I picked a guy
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: out of very decade to share their story of how
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: did they become great? What made you an outlie? What
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: was that defining moment when you were a kid and
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: you said, you know what, I am going to sacrifice
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: everything for an idea or a dream that I have.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: And I went, I visited every guy for a two
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: year time period, spent the day with them, and I
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: got their story of their defining moment. And so when
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you look through the book and you read the stories,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the stories drives the images, and the images drives the story.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So I I just thought it was a great for
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: me to be able to not only share their story,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: but allow them to be the author of their own autobiography. Well,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's important that the story is important. Like
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I was telling you, how each one of these stories
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: affected me or still affect me because of the fact
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: that you know, when you when you're going through life
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: man and you and it's different now, you know, because
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: they they can see social media. They see kids are
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: seeing people and they think that athletes had this or
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: this writer of passage all their lives, you know. And
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: sometimes and then there's certain things that happened. They check it.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: You know, you're still the athlete, okay. And and when
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I when I look at what you're doing with this book,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: like you said, as different errors, when I when I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: see they're Brooks, such a humble, humble person, you know
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and the and the great Harry
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Carston played with LT and the Giants, with those those
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: great giant teams and fletchers small compact or fearsome force.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: When you look at all these linebackers, these great linebackers,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: what do you fall athletically like I took a little
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: bit of this. I I symbolize this type of poissana
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: or this type of physicality when you start line up
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: these linebackers. When I look at every guy to me,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I split it down the middle one side, It's like
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: what traits do I see what they have? And how
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: can I incorporate that until my game? And you know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I look at Chuck bay Nary. He was the last
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: of the sixty minute men, meaning he played both ways,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: offense and the defensive side. Concrete Charlie was his nickname.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: So for me, I wanted to be hard like Concrete Charlie.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: You know, when I think about Mike Singletary, nobody ever
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: can recreate or try to. You know, well, they say,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: uh impersonation is the best form of flattery, But Mike
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: sing for me, it took me to get like fierce
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: mad to even come close to his eyes. And I
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: still didn't accomplish that. But the intimidation factor of Mike
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Singletary is what I really appreciated. Um I look at
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Derrick Brooks. You know, a lot of people don't know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: but Derrick Brooks, how you say humble, reserve guy, but
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: his faith jumps out more than anything. And he didn't
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: care about necessarily football sports itself, but his family. His
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: faith was so strong that it led him to the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: game of football, and that would really propel him to
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: be the Hall of Fame of that he is today.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So from all of those attributes that these guys had,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I kind of picked a little bit from everybody, and
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: you know, and and and it was very fun to
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: hear this story. I agree because I I the humbleness
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: that tone, Derrick Brookish. You know what I'm saying. I've
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: watched you play the physicality, that the sense of a center,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: uh secretary all the way. But like I said, those
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: those magical eyes he had, you can't that was that
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: was God. Their lives with God given. You can't replace
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: those eyes. So I know we had a few minutes left.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about this next book. You're gonna
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: write about these running backs right now. We're talking about
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the Mass behind the Mask and the Linebacker edition. Now
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have a running back edition coming out. Running
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  Speaker 1: Jim Brown. They played listen, totally agreed. Twelve games. They're
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