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Camille Tucker Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: my guest here, she's on the phone. My next guest
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Speaker 1: is a screenwriter. A screen writer now see I'm a
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Speaker 1: sitcom writer. She's a screenwright. That's a big difference. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. She is straight out of Compton, California.
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Speaker 1: Both the father and brother formerly served as mayors. I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure I've met them. I'm pretty sure. She holds
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Speaker 1: the Masters of Fine Arts in Screenwriting from Loyola Marymount
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Speaker 1: University and Masters of Art from Full of Seminary, and
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Speaker 1: as an ordained minister. So I can't use an extra
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Speaker 1: words on the show. She's on. The show discussed overcoming
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Speaker 1: the odds, being mentored by my man John Singleton, and
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Speaker 1: an incredible lifetime movie. To Clark's sisters, First Ladies of Gospel,
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Speaker 1: please walk on the money Making Conversation, Camille Tucker, Hi Rashan,
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Speaker 1: thank you for having me comill so yea comire. What
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Speaker 1: part of the country you know? Are you sitting there
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Speaker 1: right now? I'm in l A. I'm in the l
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Speaker 1: A area, l A, California, Cali. CALLI straight out of Compton,
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Speaker 1: straight out Compton. I know Steve Harvey and I was
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Speaker 1: a broadcaster and two thousand and two thousand five we
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Speaker 1: did several live broadcasts some city Hall, Compton City. Now
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Speaker 1: you know, so I as as you know, and you
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Speaker 1: know The interesting thing about it is that when we
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Speaker 1: signed our contract in two thousand and dot two point
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Speaker 1: three to be which was in Los Angeles, California, you
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Speaker 1: know they will do live broadcast, but they were new
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Speaker 1: love broadcasts in the black communities, and so so it
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Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, it was always on
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Speaker 1: the perimeter. You know, black people have to come to us.
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Speaker 1: And so we went to Baldwin Hills, which is off
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Speaker 1: of Crenshaw in Los Angeles, and we went to Compton.
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Speaker 1: People go, y'all gonna go to the company went to Watts. See,
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Speaker 1: these are primary locations. If you're listening to Mother Parker
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Speaker 1: coach every place. I said, it's black folks balling Hills.
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Speaker 1: Straight black people. Okay, they ain't gotta come to you.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna walk to you. Okay, they don't have to
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Speaker 1: They're like getting a bus. They're gonna just walk up
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Speaker 1: to you and shake your hand. And it and it
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Speaker 1: changed our lives. But more importantly, we wanted to tell
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Speaker 1: a different narrative or what people thought and what they
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Speaker 1: saw in movies which you saw on TV about black
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Speaker 1: people in these communities. They just like you, They want
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Speaker 1: to their middle class. They want to they want better
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Speaker 1: for their children and what they have for themselves and
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Speaker 1: that and that kind of got that when I was
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Speaker 1: reading your bio about who you are as a person
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Speaker 1: and knowing that your your father was the Mayor Compton
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Speaker 1: and your brother was American was also the Mayor Compton.
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Speaker 1: Talk about that whole experience and and and just just
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Speaker 1: growing up in that environment then then moving out of
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Speaker 1: that environment. Yeah, I feel I'm totally a daughter of Compton.
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Speaker 1: And something interesting, my father, Walter our Tucker the second
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Speaker 1: used to always say she said that people would say,
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Speaker 1: can any good thing come from Compton? And he told them, well,
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Speaker 1: they used to say the same thing about Nazareth. My
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Speaker 1: dad say that, and that we know that where Jesus
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Speaker 1: came from. People always have a certain stigma about certain
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Speaker 1: locations and it's not until or certain cities or places communities,
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Speaker 1: and when you grow up in that community, you know
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Speaker 1: really what the community is. And I grew up in
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Speaker 1: a place where people looked out for each other, where
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Speaker 1: they cared about um the local politics and people involved.
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Speaker 1: They were civic servants. And interestingly, I grew up in
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Speaker 1: a neighborhood called Richland Farm, which was zoned for livestock,
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Speaker 1: so that's something people don't There were black cowboys in
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Speaker 1: my community driving down. Are not driving riding down, riding
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Speaker 1: down with their chaps and on horses, and so that
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Speaker 1: was really rich. My friend had steer and they used
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Speaker 1: to compete in the four h and everything. But what
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Speaker 1: I did see was Venus and Serena practicing at compt
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Speaker 1: Community College with their father. So I saw them. I
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Speaker 1: mean I literally you know, they their products of it
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Speaker 1: and other great friends and people that I know, Um,
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Speaker 1: just a business colleague, abad Rene and Leslie Psych's fan
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Speaker 1: who's on the ABC Channel seven news. So we know
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Speaker 1: that good things and good people can come from anywhere.
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Speaker 1: But Compton is a big part of my writing, my influences,
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Speaker 1: the local color, the people that I met, the interactions
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Speaker 1: that I had living in an all black community and
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Speaker 1: even going to a predominantly white school, and just the
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Speaker 1: interesting dichotomy of those experiences is what really inspired me
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Speaker 1: as a writer. So I am grateful for that background
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Speaker 1: and that experience. Well, it articulates your tone, and I
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Speaker 1: think that's important because of the fact that that's why
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Speaker 1: I feel blasted. I can have this, I think a
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Speaker 1: natural conversation with you about l a from a from
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Speaker 1: a black perspective of now people. Yeah, because rap rap
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Speaker 1: put a label on you know, rap was successful, but
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Speaker 1: it also lead people to believe that, you know, gangsters,
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Speaker 1: and so that that didn't help. It helped the rappers
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Speaker 1: payer pocketbooks, but didn't have the communities. And so reception
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Speaker 1: breeds ignorance sometimes when the ignorance is what you're projecting
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Speaker 1: and and that's what that's what the neighborhoods like Watch
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Speaker 1: neighborhoods like bald in the Hills area south Central was
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Speaker 1: not even a community, but it became like a community.
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Speaker 1: And uh, just the area of the streets that Crenshaw
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Speaker 1: did you drive down and then uh towards Compton and
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Speaker 1: uh and it was really the thought process that watch
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Speaker 1: you back, and you hear black people watch you back
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Speaker 1: when you go over your boy and so now when
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Speaker 1: it gets there. It's interesting also as my father and
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Speaker 1: his brothers were all doctors and they had a high
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Speaker 1: rise medical building in the middle of Watch community. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we want, we don't sure to tell the truth that
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Speaker 1: this this one we're gonna talk about the first Ladies
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Speaker 1: of Gospel, But we gotta tell the truth first Camilla.
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Speaker 1: That's why I brought your teach a little bit. Preacher. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think what's so cool is that you see and
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Speaker 1: I see like my father went Tom Harry Dental School,
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Speaker 1: and I remember growing up from my friends from either Compson, Carson,
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Speaker 1: Baldwin Hills, and even some lived in Paul Verdi. These
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Speaker 1: African American men who had gone to Howard, who was
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Speaker 1: gone a morehouse, who had gone to like my Harry,
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Speaker 1: my mother went to Fifth who had a lot of um,
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Speaker 1: just pride and and they're not bad pride, but the
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Speaker 1: pride and what their work, their work ethic and what
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Speaker 1: they did, and they passed down um great values to us.
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Speaker 1: So what I see, like you said, is middle class people,
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Speaker 1: working class people, um, who wanted to the next generation
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Speaker 1: to thrive. And I think they passed down great value
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Speaker 1: to us. So that's the other side of the story.
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Speaker 1: And to be honest, when you talk about a window
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Speaker 1: into the Clark sisters. The way I was raised and
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Speaker 1: my dad was also an associate pastor in the Baptist Church,
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Speaker 1: I believe that equipped me or it uniquely spoke to
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Speaker 1: me when this project came to me in two thousand
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Speaker 1: and five, and I saw it was about this strong
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Speaker 1: woman who helped mold her daughters for excellence and wanted
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Speaker 1: them to rise above stereotypes or any kind of thing
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Speaker 1: like that placed on them. And I felt like that
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Speaker 1: was my mother and my father, and I felt like
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Speaker 1: those were the values that were instilled in me. So
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Speaker 1: I could relate so much to that. And I could
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Speaker 1: also relate to raising up in the scrutiny of the
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Speaker 1: church and how some of that feels and how you're
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Speaker 1: trying to find your voice for me, particularly as a
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Speaker 1: creative artist. So I feel like the way that I
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Speaker 1: was raised and my family and my heritage had a
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Speaker 1: big part of me wanting to tell this story and
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Speaker 1: to be involved in this project. It's interesting because you
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Speaker 1: see a lot of things on TV and I was
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Speaker 1: I could never do that because it was it was
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Speaker 1: ridden with a certain level of sensibility. And uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I believe in God, but not to the way that
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Speaker 1: you've lived a godly life. You know, like you raised
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Speaker 1: in the church, father, minister, you know, you became an
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Speaker 1: ordained minister, but still have everyday life. I wasn't always
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Speaker 1: living a godly life. Come on, year, members, So we
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Speaker 1: can't go like that now we can't go like that.
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Speaker 1: We can't go like that. I got to tell you
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Speaker 1: you gotta stay not part of my opinions. That's why
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Speaker 1: I pay me the Lord come here. What I'm just
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Speaker 1: saying is that you just jumped out this. Can you
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Speaker 1: can you let me just do my show a little bit?
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Speaker 1: Can you can you just gave me lavish praise? Only
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Speaker 1: because I'm just saying you you you have a shaped life,
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Speaker 1: you know, whereas you know you have the title of
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Speaker 1: d Minister. And that's why I wanted to That's why
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Speaker 1: I wanted to start with a straight out of Compton store,
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Speaker 1: you know, say so we can shape you are because
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand how you get to
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Speaker 1: these places. That's why I want to bring up John
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Speaker 1: Singleton in a minute, because see these all these things
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Speaker 1: shape you to be able to tell a story. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, we're watching this movie, this amazing movie. Because
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Speaker 1: I Cure shared on it. They let me see the
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Speaker 1: movie prior to a premiering on the Lifetime So I
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Speaker 1: was like, all in. I couldn't even wait to talk
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Speaker 1: to her about it, you know. And then so so
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Speaker 1: when the A I was telling watch watch this movie
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Speaker 1: was amazing. It was amazing because the reason I say
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Speaker 1: that because you know here the clock sisters, and then
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Speaker 1: you talk about chan I wasn't always like ordained because
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Speaker 1: in this movie, it wasn't a goodie two shoe story. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it showed some dark sides. And so that is why
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Speaker 1: I have to tell people how did she why was
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Speaker 1: she able to pull it out? Because look at who
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Speaker 1: she is. She She's a black woman, blew up in
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Speaker 1: a black community, not not a not with a bad
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Speaker 1: that the world saw a different way than she lived it.
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Speaker 1: She went to a white environment educating that process. And
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Speaker 1: so you walked so many different lanes. And because you
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Speaker 1: walked so many different lanes, it allows you to say,
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Speaker 1: can I tell an honest story here? Because they could
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Speaker 1: have sugarcoated a lot of things. Mama Clark, she could
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Speaker 1: have been like a cool lady, you know, but she
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Speaker 1: she was a tough you know. And I told kid,
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Speaker 1: who just said kid, she was kind of tyrannical to me,
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Speaker 1: She wasn't tyrannical. Hey, I'm just saying, you know, she's
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Speaker 1: pretty dominant, you know, you know I was, I was
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Speaker 1: just lating there what I saw. I saw a dominating person.
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Speaker 1: You know, this woman said, this woman home girl, she
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Speaker 1: couldn't even have a life. She had a driver, mama
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Speaker 1: everywhere and so so. But this was part of the story.
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Speaker 1: The grandfather of the father of their of them or
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Speaker 1: the Clark's sisters were he was, you know, physically abused
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Speaker 1: as mama. So that stuff could have been left out.
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Speaker 1: But y'all told a real story. That's why I loved it,
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Speaker 1: and it's it's a blessing that you had the ability
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Speaker 1: to craft the story and then co write the story.
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Speaker 1: That's a journey in itself, isn't it. Yes, so much
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Speaker 1: a journey and a worthy journey, and a journey I'm
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Speaker 1: so grateful for to be a part of that experience.
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Speaker 1: And I had to dig in the deepest part of
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Speaker 1: myself to help tell that story. Now, let me ask
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Speaker 1: you this. In the in the process of telling the
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Speaker 1: honest story, and you know, we all know this is
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Speaker 1: as honest as gonna get, were there any pushback on
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Speaker 1: certain storylines that were developed they weren't flattering or are
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Speaker 1: there any pushback? Yeah, there was no pushback. The card
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Speaker 1: sisters were very open and very vulnerable and wanted the
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Speaker 1: truth to be told. I would say that there were
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Speaker 1: certain things that we wanted to do more nuanced. Like
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Speaker 1: you'll notice when the scene between Maddie and her husband,
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Speaker 1: you don't see the violence on screen, it's behind the
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Speaker 1: closed doors. And that was an adjustment to bring more
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Speaker 1: nuanced so you don't necessarily have to see it, but
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Speaker 1: you know what's happening. And that's how some of the
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Speaker 1: younger daughters experienced, you know, some of the drama that
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Speaker 1: was going on in the household. So um, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think little changes like that can sometimes make the story
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Speaker 1: more powerful. Well there's that's old school movie teller, you know,
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Speaker 1: back in the day. You know, you know, when people
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Speaker 1: the faith, the dark and the cigarette smoking and and
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Speaker 1: and so I got that and that's why and I
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Speaker 1: felt that that's the only way you should tell this story,
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Speaker 1: because if you went any darker, that's a different story.
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Speaker 1: The stories about this mom who was on a mission,
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Speaker 1: a godly mission, you know, to to to empower her daughter,
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Speaker 1: because you said, look at you guys are not gonna
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Speaker 1: be cooks and maids. She was passionate about that for
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Speaker 1: her daughters. And I'm talking to my friend Camille Tucker.
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Speaker 1: dot ai Hi. Just with Sean mcgonald was talking to
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Speaker 1: Camille Tucker. Um came up which store two thousand five
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Speaker 1: co wrote the brilliant portrayal of the clock Sisters, The
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Speaker 1: First Ladies of Gospel, one of my and the thing
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Speaker 1: about I don't want to tell the movie, Um, but
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Speaker 1: it was compelling. I didn't know of the story is
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Speaker 1: going to go. The fact that they were from Detroit
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Speaker 1: and the heart of the Motown era, and their mom said, no,
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Speaker 1: you're doing gospel and they could all blow. They could blow. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they were attractive and could blow. Lets me know that
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Speaker 1: they were in Jackson five was just eating up the
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Speaker 1: airwave radio waves, and but she was on the mission.
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Speaker 1: Can you can you give us an insight that what
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Speaker 1: what what made the Clark sister besides being talented, what
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Speaker 1: made them successful? Yeah? Thank you um. First of all,
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Speaker 1: I just want to also give honor to the beautiful queens,
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Speaker 1: the Clark sisters, and thank them for their life and
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Speaker 1: their legacy to tell the story. But you know there's
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Speaker 1: a key line that Dr Mattie Marks Carson. She said,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you started for Jesus, and so she
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Speaker 1: was determined that they stayed in the church. But I
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Speaker 1: think two things are very interesting. Number one, they call
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Speaker 1: it one voice in the movie. At one point we
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Speaker 1: were kind of pining around with the family blend, and
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Speaker 1: those sisters are annointed because their voices are all sound
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Speaker 1: like one voice and their blend is perfect. And I
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Speaker 1: think that there's something that happened with families, like God
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Speaker 1: does something magical in the DNA that you know, one
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Speaker 1: thing's first topproun, all the other things second topprono, the
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Speaker 1: other one sings out, so the other one's contract outside
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Speaker 1: the other one's Tenor how do you get each daughter
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Speaker 1: has that different range. How do you you don't plan that?
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Speaker 1: So that is like fascinating to me, and I think
19:33
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons that they are so successful
19:36
Speaker 1: because of that family blend. It sounds like honey, it
19:39
Speaker 1: sounds like their voices are coming down from heaven. And
19:42
Speaker 1: then the other thing, in addition to all of them
19:46
Speaker 1: having a very unique gift that blends together, twinky musical
19:50
Speaker 1: writing genius is huge. See. The thing about Twinkie is
19:55
Speaker 1: she studied musical theory and she combined different genres and
20:00
Speaker 1: we saw that with You Brought the Sunshine, but she
20:02
Speaker 1: was doing that all the time. She'd be like, I
20:04
Speaker 1: want to yeah, I want some reggae the R and B.
20:07
Speaker 1: I want some gospel, and she mixed them together and
20:09
Speaker 1: come up with songs. And that was I think big
20:13
Speaker 1: in terms of people being like, this is unique, this
20:16
Speaker 1: is fresh. So I think that was a big part
20:18
Speaker 1: of it too. Well, you know, it really was. I
20:20
Speaker 1: think that she wrote over a two d and fifty songs.
20:23
Speaker 1: I believe that was one of them. At the end
20:25
Speaker 1: of the movie, it was you know that. The thing
20:28
Speaker 1: about it is that you know and watching and you
20:31
Speaker 1: know you gotta watch the movie. They don't all turn
20:33
Speaker 1: out good for all clocks sisters, you know, you know,
20:37
Speaker 1: and that's and that's a that's a point that I
20:39
Speaker 1: think that one could have a vision and and and
20:43
Speaker 1: a focus and said this is what I think you
20:45
Speaker 1: should do. What everybody wants to live their own lives
20:48
Speaker 1: and something. And when you do that, you see that
20:51
Speaker 1: in the groups break up. I was looking at the Kiss,
20:54
Speaker 1: The Kiss, break your break another band, you know, they
20:57
Speaker 1: were talking about how Jean and he stayed and to
20:59
Speaker 1: other two went that went away and so then they
21:01
Speaker 1: wanted to come back. And so it's like a lot
21:03
Speaker 1: of people. What my biggest takeaway was that the reason
21:06
Speaker 1: that clarks are very successful. Yes, the mom was very driven, okay,
21:10
Speaker 1: but the daughters were willing to work hard, they were
21:14
Speaker 1: willing to find that one note that you're talking about
21:17
Speaker 1: one note, and they were willing to drive her everywhere.
21:22
Speaker 1: But the other thing that came out of was that
21:24
Speaker 1: she was a female in a very very male dominated world. Yes, absolutely,
21:33
Speaker 1: and it showed itself a couple of times when when
21:36
Speaker 1: they were dealing with the record deal as a promoter, okay,
21:39
Speaker 1: because she was booking their dates and then the church,
21:45
Speaker 1: how did, How did that player role in your storytelling?
21:49
Speaker 1: It was so important to me because I did not
21:51
Speaker 1: know really as much about Dr and Annie miss Clark
21:54
Speaker 1: before I started on this project, and I felt like,
21:57
Speaker 1: we have these unsung heroes and here Shiro's and heroins,
22:02
Speaker 1: and I felt like she was someone so critical in
22:05
Speaker 1: such a trailblazer for that time that a lot of
22:08
Speaker 1: people didn't know about. And I felt challenged and I
22:12
Speaker 1: felt honored, like I want the people to know about
22:14
Speaker 1: this woman who was um really kind of bucking the standard,
22:20
Speaker 1: and I believe helped bring about change in the Church
22:23
Speaker 1: of God in Christ. I feel like some of the
22:26
Speaker 1: way that the Church of God in Christ is now
22:29
Speaker 1: whereas you can see the Clark's sisters being able to
22:32
Speaker 1: cross different platforms, go into you know, seeing in the
22:35
Speaker 1: secular arenas, or go to Essencest or whatever where pants
22:39
Speaker 1: and things like that, we have to give a tribute
22:43
Speaker 1: to go and live. I think the Clark this is
22:44
Speaker 1: we're the ones that helped forwards that path, you know,
22:47
Speaker 1: and Dr Maddie Mark Krk helped forwards that path. So
22:51
Speaker 1: I see her as someone just like how we um
22:54
Speaker 1: and I don't want to like compare important to people,
22:56
Speaker 1: but we give tribute to like Harriet Tubman or we
22:58
Speaker 1: said she was a great woman Austry and she helped
23:01
Speaker 1: change things. And I feel like Dr Maddie Moss Clark
23:04
Speaker 1: too and also having her doctorate music and everything. So
23:08
Speaker 1: I look at that and I'm like, thank you for
23:11
Speaker 1: women like that who had the courage that opened opportunities
23:14
Speaker 1: for women like me today and other women whether they're singers,
23:17
Speaker 1: artists or have you. Um, yeah, And it's fascinating to me. Well,
23:22
Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was important for you know,
23:24
Speaker 1: for you what you're articulating is very important. But I
23:28
Speaker 1: view what they accomplished and still accomplished in the day
23:32
Speaker 1: was the gospel version of what Destiny Child became. Yeah,
23:38
Speaker 1: you know, you know, because an amazing breakthrough because Destiny
23:43
Speaker 1: Child that was an industry dominated by whites. Okay what
23:46
Speaker 1: they did? You know, it became a pop powerhouse and
23:53
Speaker 1: we know that, you know, gospel music at that time
23:56
Speaker 1: was just dominated by ministers and men dominated that sound.
24:00
Speaker 1: And then you but and that's what that what that
24:02
Speaker 1: what made her so driven in that scene that she
24:04
Speaker 1: talks to the church and they you know, like I said,
24:07
Speaker 1: the cool thing is that when I'm telling you this story,
24:10
Speaker 1: I'm telling you about a journey, and it's a journey
24:14
Speaker 1: from you know, when the first thoughts, and it carries
24:18
Speaker 1: through the ups and downs, the pains of success, the
24:22
Speaker 1: unexpected loads of success because you know, when you're because
24:26
Speaker 1: you know we're going to journey of success, you expect
24:28
Speaker 1: to just be uppardly, just go skyrocket, but it doesn't.
24:32
Speaker 1: Just for somehow you guys able to just to show
24:36
Speaker 1: their their relationships with their when you know, because because
24:40
Speaker 1: what what what what? Marm Ma Clark didn't bet on
24:45
Speaker 1: the outside relationship, tearing the group of part in her eyes.
24:49
Speaker 1: You know, these girls to become women, and women eventually
24:53
Speaker 1: gonna meet men, and men are gonna have to have
24:55
Speaker 1: decisions with the women of the wives and all this stuff.
24:58
Speaker 1: That's what she didn't prepare for. And that really was
25:02
Speaker 1: the hard most humbling part of how to deal with
25:05
Speaker 1: that and come to grips with that. And I thought
25:07
Speaker 1: you guys did a very good job of that in
25:09
Speaker 1: your storytelling. Yeah, thank you. And I know one of
25:13
Speaker 1: the scenes that like I'm hearing feedback from people, this
25:17
Speaker 1: scene with Tweakie and her new husband and on how
25:21
Speaker 1: it was related to us, and that's the scene that's
25:23
Speaker 1: really getting a lot of people. Um, and that's a
25:27
Speaker 1: pretty powerful scene. There's several scenes in that film that
25:30
Speaker 1: are just like Outside the Church was powerful on the
25:34
Speaker 1: internet with John Terrell and Mama and Dr Maddie myth Park,
25:39
Speaker 1: you know, plenty powerful scenes. Don't underserve yourself. You know.
25:44
Speaker 1: It was so many act break act, break at break,
25:48
Speaker 1: go to commercial. It was so many great scenes. And
25:50
Speaker 1: I'm just happy I got to see it just straight through,
25:53
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it's just so amazing moment.
25:55
Speaker 1: But I also want to point out this is that
25:58
Speaker 1: it was a note that it was so many stars
26:01
Speaker 1: in social media that got on board with this project.
26:03
Speaker 1: To Rodger p Henson, Man Tyler Perry, Maria Carry, you know,
26:09
Speaker 1: able to do an age, Janet Jackson, so many people
26:13
Speaker 1: just said watts for so many different genres. How did
26:16
Speaker 1: that make you feel? This is your little project you
26:19
Speaker 1: started in two thousand five, This is the Clarkson is
26:21
Speaker 1: on Lifetime. We all pray for big moment. We always say,
26:24
Speaker 1: hey man, this can be the one. But when you
26:27
Speaker 1: start seeing these media posts, because I know what he
26:29
Speaker 1: can do, because that's that's what happened to me on
26:31
Speaker 1: Think Like a Man the first movie, because every p
26:34
Speaker 1: did you know, Dwayne Wade, you know, Kevin Hard Of course,
26:38
Speaker 1: all these people are just posting left it right and
26:41
Speaker 1: that we made thirty three million dollars. I'll open it weekend.
26:44
Speaker 1: So I know what happens when you when you push
26:47
Speaker 1: a brand. And this guy pushed so much in social media,
26:51
Speaker 1: and like you said, it's like you said, it's a
26:53
Speaker 1: level million now viewers now, okay, so you know, yea
26:59
Speaker 1: seven the first night, I calculated that if it was
27:02
Speaker 1: a theatrical eleast would have been forty three million dollars,
27:05
Speaker 1: which is amazing. But it feels I feel blessed, I
27:09
Speaker 1: feel humble. I feel I'm still processing it. Rashaun honestly,
27:14
Speaker 1: Lebron James had Danna Box, Mariah Carry, Janet Jackson, and
27:18
Speaker 1: I'm really still Priscilla Shre Martha Manuzi, and I'm still
27:24
Speaker 1: just like God, you know, thank you, Like I'm really
27:27
Speaker 1: just my heart is full and opportunities are opening up
27:31
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited about, you know, just just being
27:35
Speaker 1: able to be in this place. I don't think any
27:37
Speaker 1: of we thought that people would connect, but this means
27:40
Speaker 1: didn't really connected with an audience. Absolutely, and I'd be remiss.
27:44
Speaker 1: I know we're wrapping up, but I want to talk
27:46
Speaker 1: about John Singleton. M he was your main tour and uh,
27:50
Speaker 1: and we all know, you know what he's done in
27:53
Speaker 1: this business. And and uh, you know, when you start
27:56
Speaker 1: talking about black directors, male directors, you know Spike Lee,
28:01
Speaker 1: John Singleton, you know they broke the grounds. They broke
28:05
Speaker 1: the ground for us and doing it different ways, doing
28:08
Speaker 1: it their way. So tell me how did you create
28:10
Speaker 1: a relationship with get your relationship started, How did he
28:13
Speaker 1: impact who you are becoming, and how he helped you
28:16
Speaker 1: along the way. I met John when we were both
28:20
Speaker 1: in college. Actually he was at USC and I was
28:24
Speaker 1: at U c l A. But he was at my
28:25
Speaker 1: crosstown rival, and he was directing a music video actually
28:29
Speaker 1: and I was in the video. And that's how we
28:32
Speaker 1: first met. And after we both graduated and started affording
28:37
Speaker 1: our path the filmmakers, he came to me and my
28:40
Speaker 1: former writing partner one day about a script called gold Diggers,
28:43
Speaker 1: and we ended up writing it together and selling it
28:46
Speaker 1: to Universal. It didn't get made, but during that process,
28:50
Speaker 1: the thing that I learned most from john Is about craftsmanships.
28:54
Speaker 1: He would sit and watch movies with me and walk
28:56
Speaker 1: me through, frame by frame what was going on in
29:00
Speaker 1: the film, what the filmmaker was doing, and taught me
29:03
Speaker 1: about about cinematic language. And I will always be grateful
29:08
Speaker 1: for him for that, because I think we have to
29:10
Speaker 1: be artists and we also have to be business people,
29:14
Speaker 1: which is part of what you talk about with money matters, um,
29:17
Speaker 1: but on the artist side, that really opened up my
29:21
Speaker 1: world to see that cinematic language and to try to
29:23
Speaker 1: take that into every project that I do. UM And
29:27
Speaker 1: he was a cinematic brilliant director, and I see the
29:31
Speaker 1: same thing in Christine Swanson who directed The Card Sisters.
29:35
Speaker 1: You know, that's what makes the difference when we see
29:37
Speaker 1: a film like every frame is so beautifully shot and
29:41
Speaker 1: a part of telling the story. And that's what really
29:45
Speaker 1: motivates me to continue to be a storyteller like that.
29:50
Speaker 1: You know, this is a one big moment, there's one
29:52
Speaker 1: big on your resume. What's what's what's next for you? What?
29:55
Speaker 1: What's what? What do we got looking in the future
29:57
Speaker 1: for you? I have and in Spray sal romantic comedy
30:01
Speaker 1: called Blessed in the City, which is based on my
30:04
Speaker 1: real life, and I would say it's the Woman of
30:08
Speaker 1: Faith version of Sex and the City. So in the
30:12
Speaker 1: City they were having a lot of sex, and in
30:14
Speaker 1: my movie they aren't having a lot of right, right, right,
30:17
Speaker 1: blessed in the city, it's about dating sexually, accidently, in dating,
30:23
Speaker 1: and seeking God in your relationships. I also have a
30:26
Speaker 1: project called The Kennedy's The Compton, which is a TV
30:28
Speaker 1: pilot and it's about a black political family and Constant California. Wow. Well,
30:34
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm a fan, and you know I
30:36
Speaker 1: direct I direct message you and say hey, will you
30:38
Speaker 1: do my show? And you said, Rashan, They've already contacted me,
30:41
Speaker 1: so made me look bad. I thought about it, you know,
30:44
Speaker 1: slide on it, act like I'm doing some big doggi ish,
30:47
Speaker 1: you know, not, They've already contacted I'm going to do
30:49
Speaker 1: the show. Well, I'm a fan and and know that
30:52
Speaker 1: anything you do less in the City, come out. Please
30:55
Speaker 1: know you can come here first or something other project
30:57
Speaker 1: that you're doing. But thank you congratulation. This is a
31:00
Speaker 1: fantastic movie I've been putting. I put a banner in
31:04
Speaker 1: my fan club, went out to ninety thousand people last weekend.
31:08
Speaker 1: I like to believe I'm contributing to those millions that
31:11
Speaker 1: are watching it social media posted uh on my other
31:15
Speaker 1: platforms other than LinkedIn. So Camille, I'm doing my part.
31:18
Speaker 1: I'm doing my part. I might not be jan I
31:21
Speaker 1: might not be try I might not be, but I
31:24
Speaker 1: might not be. I'm just Rea Sean McDonald and money
31:28
Speaker 1: making conversations. Girl. Bless you, bless you, bless you so much.
31:33
Speaker 1: You're a dynamic man and a great role model and friends,
31:36
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, thank you, and come on, come on
31:41
Speaker 1: that girl right there, you know. So it's really nice
31:45
Speaker 1: that when I when I when you, when I look
31:47
Speaker 1: at my life and I feel you you're part of
31:50
Speaker 1: my life. And I look at people like Sharing so
31:52
Speaker 1: many other people who shaped me and and have supported me.
31:55
Speaker 1: And because all my people look at my life, they
31:57
Speaker 1: look at that outside of my life. They don't look
32:00
Speaker 1: ats got there or down moments in my life. And
32:03
Speaker 1: people like Share McGee's of the world, Felicia Henderson's of
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Speaker 1: the world, Sarah Finny Johnson to the world. These people
32:10
Speaker 1: have always been there from a female side that have
32:13
Speaker 1: always couldn't believe how talented I was, and couldn't believe
32:16
Speaker 1: how crazy I was. But when it when going, when
32:18
Speaker 1: all the craziness was taken over and I need to support,
32:22
Speaker 1: they were there for me. So I I consider that
32:25
Speaker 1: relationship I'm gonna have with you, Camill, you and now
32:27
Speaker 1: one of my sisters. Okay, thank you, thank you for
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