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Jackson Dunbar gives a first-hand account of how he 'Made Money, Lost 90 pounds, and Thrived in Chronic Pain" in the financial and healthcare worlds. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 3: My guest, he's on the call, and I had him
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  Speaker 3: on the show before and it really dealt into chronic pain,
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  Speaker 3: mental stress, overcoming the odds. His name is Jackson Dunbar.
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  Speaker 3: He triumphed by earning a comfortable living after having lost
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  Speaker 3: it all. Dumbbar's committed to creating a new normal life
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  Speaker 3: for himself, deliberately focused on his physical health and strength,
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  Speaker 3: continued to earn an income while still in chronic pain,
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  Speaker 3: and without his knowledge, was teaching himself and possibly the world,
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  Speaker 3: a masterclass in survival. And his book he gives a
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  Speaker 3: first hand account on how he made money, lost Danty Palce,
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  Speaker 3: and thrived in chronic pain in the financial and healthcare world.
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  Speaker 3: The one and only Jackson Dunbar who's on the call,
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  Speaker 3: still my friend.
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  Speaker 1: He's been telling.
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  Speaker 3: Us a story and a very movie story and a
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  Speaker 3: very honest story about a day in the life of
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  Speaker 3: a person with chronic pain. And even even just listening
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  Speaker 3: to that. The model of drugs that is that you
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  Speaker 3: have to have to get through a day, a day
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  Speaker 3: in the life means you have to have insurance, correct Jackson?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, and what And that was tough because
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the med a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the medications that I needed, some were covered, some
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  Speaker 4: were not. I was luckier than most that I could
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  Speaker 4: pay out of pocket. But now, yeh, Now with Obamacare,
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  Speaker 4: the subsidies that are given and what you're able to
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  Speaker 4: get on the changes are quite good. So now yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm able to get almost all of the medicines that
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  Speaker 4: I need covered by insurance.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm sitting in the house just I'm just pointing
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  Speaker 3: an example. Somebody sending in the house stock market. I
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  Speaker 3: don't even know what's going on with the stock ma.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even understand the stock market. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: those little numbers a little I don't you know, I
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  Speaker 3: got a little money. I got bout maybe a few
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  Speaker 3: thousands of dollars sending the bank. I hear words like
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  Speaker 3: compounded ches, I hear stock, I hear all kind of
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  Speaker 3: How do I break the financial financial literacy ignorance to
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  Speaker 3: get involved?
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  Speaker 1: Jackson?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I think the first step is to you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think the first thing is just go on Google
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  Speaker 4: and pretend like you're writing yourself a paper on the
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  Speaker 4: stock market, right, can google stock market whatever, and then
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  Speaker 4: finally you'll get all this data and write yourself a
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  Speaker 4: long letter, a short write paper on how to get
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  Speaker 4: into the stock market. And if you do that, what
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  Speaker 4: you will find out is that, for the most part,
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  Speaker 4: it's all about two things. Number one, what are the
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  Speaker 4: current geop with the current geopolitical landscape? And interest rates?
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  Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is that the geopolitical landscape,
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  Speaker 4: let's say there's a wargo and whatever reason, supply lines
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  Speaker 4: of oil have been cut. Well, there it's a lack
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  Speaker 4: of oil. Hey, what's that going to do to the
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  Speaker 4: price of it? Especially if there's a wargum. Also, interest
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  Speaker 4: rates and interest rates are low, people people are more
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  Speaker 4: risky with their money, institutions are more risky with their money.
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  Speaker 4: So that means you can you can put money on
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  Speaker 4: more speculative investments such as neo some of the crypto
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  Speaker 4: based some of the crypto based stocks. But when interest
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  Speaker 4: rates go up, typically investors are more cautious. They want
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  Speaker 4: more meat and potatoes stocks, stocks that actually do something
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  Speaker 4: and make money. So essentially what you want to do
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  Speaker 4: is is just look at the current political look at
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  Speaker 4: the current market and political landscape. Hey, what industries are
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  Speaker 4: making money there? And then look at the interest rates,
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  Speaker 4: what interest what interestries and what companies are making money
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  Speaker 4: if we have less oil and have higher interest rates.
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  Speaker 4: And from there, yeah, you pick the stocks. You pick
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  Speaker 4: two or three stocks with a cost base is under
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  Speaker 4: twenty dollars because you want to get appreciation. You're not
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  Speaker 4: going to get a lot of appreciation getting something that
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  Speaker 4: has three digits or more. That's too expensive for me.
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  Speaker 4: Most of your money is going to be made between
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  Speaker 4: zero and twenty.
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  Speaker 1: If a stock splits, does it? Should you buy in?
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  Speaker 4: Then? You know, I think for me, most of the
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  Speaker 4: times when the stock split that values over three digits?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay?
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  Speaker 4: And for me here I have stocks in several categories.
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  Speaker 4: You got the fast and the furious, right okay? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: And these stocks, you know, they go up fast and
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  Speaker 4: they come down fast. You know, a MC Are you
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  Speaker 4: a day trader?
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  Speaker 1: Are you a day trader? Jackson?
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  Speaker 4: Consider myself more of a spot trader.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Because it sounds like they were you seeing
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  Speaker 3: stuff going up and down?
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  Speaker 1: I mean you you watch it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can watch it. Watch it. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the specific cryptos themselves. I mean doors Coin. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was a great example of a fast and furious.
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  Speaker 4: And then you have friends with benefits. Okay, so these
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  Speaker 4: are stocks that you wantn't want your mother to buy,
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  Speaker 4: but they're good for a good here. Okay, you'll ride
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  Speaker 4: the ups and downs of these and what's great about
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  Speaker 4: these spots is that they'll go up and then they'll
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  Speaker 4: come down. And when they come down, you do put
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  Speaker 4: some notes and and what puts. What puts are basically
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  Speaker 4: you're betting that a stock's going to go down. They
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  Speaker 4: call it short the market.
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  Speaker 1: Are you really into it?
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  Speaker 3: You're saying all the all the right terminology of a
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  Speaker 3: day treat, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So for me, I focus on friends with benefit stocks.
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  Speaker 4: I ride them up, and then when I think they're
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  Speaker 4: going down, I shot them and.
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  Speaker 3: I well, you know a lot of people say that's
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  Speaker 3: dollar cost averaging, right is that is am I using
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  Speaker 3: the right terminology?
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  Speaker 1: Because that sounds like what you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, well, here, I know a lot of folks they
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  Speaker 4: dollar cos average id e. They put so much money
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  Speaker 4: in every month and hope to get the power of
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  Speaker 4: compound and and things of that nature. Yeah, yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 4: I do do that. So much of my so much
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  Speaker 4: of my proceeds they go into a kid's account, or
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  Speaker 4: they go into here, we have an investing account, and
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  Speaker 4: then we have a retirement account. The retirement account is
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  Speaker 4: more conservative investments. By that, I need index funds and
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  Speaker 4: ets that paid dividends. So that's all we do over there,
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  Speaker 4: do a lot of dollar cost Allergen over that because
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  Speaker 4: so much money every month out of the risky stock
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  Speaker 4: fund goes into that more moderate stock fundon in order
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  Speaker 4: to sport.
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  Speaker 3: Jackson, I'm never in my life bought a twenty dollars stock.
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  Speaker 3: I can't even imagine the research you have to do
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  Speaker 3: to buy a twenty dollars stock.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know what, let's see Ribban uh huh again.
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  Speaker 4: These guys they have the they have the best electric
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  Speaker 4: truck on the planet. Right, what was that nine dollars?
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  Speaker 4: During spring break? I loaded my kids accounts up.
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  Speaker 5: With that.
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  Speaker 4: Because here, Tesla is good, but I want something that's
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  Speaker 4: gone twenty thirty, forty X my money, and you're only
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  Speaker 4: going to get those with stocks between zero and twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I'm being educated. Keep talking, Jack, how much educating me. Brother.
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  Speaker 4: Have you been to the have you ever have you
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  Speaker 4: ever read the Motley Fool before?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, A long time been around.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's been that's been around at least for forty years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But if you go to fool dot com and just
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  Speaker 4: typing best growth stocks under twenty, I mean under twenty dollars,
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  Speaker 4: you can go on to five under ten, under twenty
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  Speaker 4: for this year. It'll pull you up. It'll pull you
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  Speaker 4: up some. Then go over to Y'alluo finance and grab
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  Speaker 4: them out and see how and see how they've done.
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  Speaker 4: Now you'll see things like Mara, which which is a
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  Speaker 4: crypto related stocks, is up four hundred percent. Riot, another
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  Speaker 4: crypto really is up four hundred percent this year. Ribbon
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  Speaker 4: is up more than two hundred percent. So you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to get those sort of returns with some of
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  Speaker 4: triple digit and more stocks like Tesla, Chevron and things
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  Speaker 4: of that nature. And don't get me wrong, I call
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  Speaker 4: those stocks spouses. They're well established, they grow, they pay
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  Speaker 4: dividends minimum and they had minimum okay, and they had
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  Speaker 4: minimum up and downs. But I startedly now I'll have
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  Speaker 4: my kids and stuff like that, because the power of
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  Speaker 4: compound compound interest. The younger you are, the more money
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  Speaker 4: you make there you go. So if you're starting your
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  Speaker 4: kids at fifteen sixteen, by the time they're forty, they're
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  Speaker 4: multi millionaires. But for us, you know, we had to
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  Speaker 4: pay off student loans, we have to start businesses. We
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  Speaker 4: I make the most amount of money if I got
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  Speaker 4: maybe fifteen or twenty years to play with, and for
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  Speaker 4: me that stocks between zero and twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking to Jackson Dunbar and he's educating with Sean McDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully he's educating my audience. For man jum me. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he's a he's quiet on the other side of the glass.
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  Speaker 4: He's quiet on.
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  Speaker 3: Those sidember because I'm Jason Man. It's no way I
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  Speaker 3: ever bought even thought of buying a DOOCT. That was
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  Speaker 3: like at the twenty dollars they thought in my mind.
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  Speaker 3: But then what you said something that was really important
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  Speaker 3: before we go to break you said, treat going into
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  Speaker 3: the stock market like a homework assignment, which means you
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  Speaker 3: the approach of doing business with the stock market of
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  Speaker 3: stock and so that approach I had never heard. And
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  Speaker 3: when I get back, I want to ask you a
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  Speaker 3: question about you know, because of that injury that happened,
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  Speaker 3: you're living a lifestyle that I'm assuming you not have
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  Speaker 3: lived if the injury didn't happen. When we get back,
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  Speaker 3: he's going to answer that question. Jackson Dunbar, he's on
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  Speaker 3: my show, Money Making Conversations master Class and we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about chronic pain, mental health, overcoming the Odds and his
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  Speaker 3: book that is really really a life changer, How I
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  Speaker 3: Made money, lost ninety pounds and Thrive in Chronic Pain.
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  Speaker 1: That is his book. And Jackson Dunbar will be right back.
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  Speaker 3: change his life, change his family life, change his wife's life,
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  Speaker 3: I know I won't, And so you overcame that and
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  Speaker 3: now you have a knowledge in the financial industry that's
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  Speaker 3: now benefiting your family where you feel you would have
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  Speaker 3: been with this knowledge, if you would not have had
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  Speaker 3: this accident.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when I had the accident, as I told you,
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  Speaker 4: I own well Met Atlanta. We're a group of child
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  Speaker 4: and LANs and psychiatrists. We're black owned, and we closed
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  Speaker 4: our biggest deal then. And at that time in my life,
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  Speaker 4: I was chasing I was chasing the dollars. My best
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  Speaker 4: friend he would be like, every time I call you,
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  Speaker 4: you know you're chasing money. And yeah, And I think
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  Speaker 4: the accident made me slow down. I gotta say I'm
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  Speaker 4: a better father. I'm sure a better husband, and and
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of that was it just And
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  Speaker 4: I'm probably a better person too. You know, I thought
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  Speaker 4: about things and dollars and cents, profit and losses. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I could tell you the profit and loss per patient
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  Speaker 4: on anyone coming in and and I lack something and
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  Speaker 4: I don't And and now having a walk a mile
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  Speaker 4: in someone's shoes, being judged by the color of your skin,
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  Speaker 4: having to get treatment but not being able to have
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  Speaker 4: the insurance, it's it's, it's it's it's changed me to
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  Speaker 4: the point now where I tell people, hey, listen, you
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  Speaker 4: know we have a business. But that's only step one.
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  Speaker 4: Step two is how do we improve the community that
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  Speaker 4: we live in, you know, how do we make enough
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  Speaker 4: off of the people that can pay so that we
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  Speaker 4: can help some of the people that can. And so
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  Speaker 4: now yeah, it's I've I've a more I have a
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  Speaker 4: better worldview around people around and yeah, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: think I would have had that but for the accident.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also the better shape because back then, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: mean I was three fifty at my biggest.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in the two fifties. Now. I swim at
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  Speaker 4: the Way Walk of YMCA. I'm also on the board
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  Speaker 4: there and I have three way Walk I have three
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  Speaker 4: one hundred mile t shirts that I have from swimming.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And I have to say, you know, there is that
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  Speaker 4: there's a point where you're in water, you feel like
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  Speaker 4: you touch God, God himself and as I feel no
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  Speaker 4: pain as soon as I get in water.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a great way to reset to really focused
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  Speaker 4: on Okay, I was able to do these six things
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  Speaker 4: and three to four hours, how do I kick it
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  Speaker 4: up to ten? Okay, And I'll spend my time thinking
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  Speaker 4: about that. Uh, let's see versus Oh this is what
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  Speaker 4: I lost. Blah blah blah, blah blah. So yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: enjoying life more. Yeah, the pain sucks, forgive my French.
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  Speaker 4: But when I look down and I focus on what
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  Speaker 4: I've gotten out because of COVID, I would when my
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  Speaker 4: accident came and at the biggest with all the drugs,
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  Speaker 4: I was three fifty off. My A one C was
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  Speaker 4: in eight seven. All my numbers were read. If I
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  Speaker 4: had those numbers during COVID, I would have died right right, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because because most black people were men with those cold
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  Speaker 4: mobidities during COVID. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. But now my
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  Speaker 4: A one C is under six. I'm six to one,
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  Speaker 4: about to look like a lumber Jain. For the most part,
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  Speaker 4: all my numbers are green in a lot of ways. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm the healthiest I've ever been, and that's because of the.
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  Speaker 1: Accident, both mentally and physically.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, oh, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: You know when we started this conversation at the top
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  Speaker 3: of the show, and the first time you came on
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  Speaker 3: the show, I didn't really get a whole picture of
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  Speaker 3: the man I'm talking to, and that's Jackson Dunbar. And
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  Speaker 3: the first conversation was about the book and we talked
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  Speaker 3: about the book. We've talked in and out of the book,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel today we basically had a conversation, and
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  Speaker 3: that conversation is important because you shared with us knowledge
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  Speaker 3: you've shared with us, you know, emotional moments you've shared
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  Speaker 3: us with. You know your relationship with your wife, relationship
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  Speaker 3: with your daughter, relationship with your family, relationship with your friends.
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  Speaker 3: But more importantly, you still care. You know, despite all
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  Speaker 3: that pain, you still care. How does one care when
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  Speaker 3: it seems like life has delivered you a bad hand.
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  Speaker 4: I found out something. We pulled our kids out of
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  Speaker 4: private school and we put them in the neighborhood school.
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  Speaker 4: I was I would bring my daughter home and she
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  Speaker 4: said it was hot. The ac went out, and like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: how long had it been out? A few days? So
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  Speaker 4: I went up to the school and my scooter and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: just the ac out. They wouldn't give me an answer,
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  Speaker 4: so I went I did what any of that would do.
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  Speaker 4: I went to the Age of hardware store. I bought
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  Speaker 4: all of their fans. I brought them to the school
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  Speaker 4: and the principal was looking at me as if I
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  Speaker 4: was going to cause the scene go to the press.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, all, I want to do is keep
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  Speaker 4: my daughter and these kids school. So I brought the
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  Speaker 4: fans over and I climbed out for my scooter. I
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  Speaker 4: was in so much pain and I was sweating. Halfway
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  Speaker 4: through assembling those fans. My daughter she came, got one
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  Speaker 4: for her class, smiled. Another person came, got a fan
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  Speaker 4: for her class. All of a sudden, I stopped thinking
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  Speaker 4: about the tame and I fact that they're putting the
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  Speaker 4: fans together and seeing the smiles on all the black
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  Speaker 4: and brown faces, I realized something. You know, the best
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  Speaker 4: way to help yourself is to help other people. All
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  Speaker 4: the anger is gone, all the resentment is gone. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we have a smile on your face. And people say
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  Speaker 4: that about me all the time, especially when I go
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  Speaker 4: and when I see my doctors. You know, you always
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: have this big smile on your face. That's swear for
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: a game patience, And it's like, yeah, because I spend
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  Speaker 4: my time focused on what I can do, and then
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I try to make a game of it. How can
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I do more give than the limited time to give
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  Speaker 4: them the limit physical capacity I have? And I just
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: worked the plan and that keeps smile on my face.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, great story. Tell us how we can find your book,
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dunbar, Sure Sure.
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  Speaker 4: Race Matters and Paying Medicine, How I Made Money, Lost
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  Speaker 4: ninety pounds and Thrived and Cry of Pain. You can
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  Speaker 4: get it at Jackson Dunbar dot com or you can
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: just get it on Amazon.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know you're you're regular now. And I say
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: that with a relationship tied to it, we definitely have
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: to connect off air just to just just chop it
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  Speaker 3: up because people like you are positive. You know, you
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: push positivity to the next level. We all need to
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: hear that. And I'm speaking to Jackson Dunbar. His book
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  Speaker 3: is a book I recommend once you read How I
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  Speaker 3: Made Money, Lost eighty pounds and Thrived Me Conic Product Pain. Again,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: thank you, Jackson Dumbar for coming on my shows, you.
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  Speaker 4: For having me. And I'm going to sing you three
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  Speaker 4: starts on the twenty Okay now, how they do?
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  Speaker 3: Okay now, And I'm gonna tell you so and my daughter,
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  Speaker 3: my daughter, I'm getting there into the stock. So you
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: send that to me. I'm not gonna put it on
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  Speaker 3: the air. And I but when you come back on
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: the show, I let everybody know what we did from
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: the tears.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: It'll be about three months when I bring you.
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  Speaker 4: Back, Okay, I would love it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Bye bye, and thank you all my friends and my
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  Speaker 3: family and everybody for listening to Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
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  Speaker 3: I will talk to you next week. Keep winning.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, Thank.
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