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BONUS: Lent, Ashes, and Skulls With My Brother Paul! · The Lila Rose Show

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  Hey, everybody, Hello, hello. Welcome back to the Lila Rose
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  show. We are going live here and I've
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  got my brother in studio today, Mr. Paul Rose of Sing the Hours.
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  Some of you might have sung with him online.
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  He sings with, I think hundreds of thousands of people now
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  online his his songs. So we might actually sing today.
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  But we're talking all things Lent and suffering, ashes,
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  skulls, death, the resurrection, all the good things.
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  OK, Paul, welcome to the podcast.
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  Thanks for having me. It's great to be here with all
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  of you and Paul. Paul, we went through this.
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  You just talked to me. You don't have to.
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  Look so weird you were just looking at your camera.
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  That is true. OK, you can do the.
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  Double standard. This is what sibling life is.
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  To be a younger brother is to be held to a different standard
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  than your your elder sibling lent.
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  Lent. Happy Lent, which is a weird
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  thing to say. I was actually thinking it would
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  be a good crossword prompt to be like ironic holiday greeting on
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  Ash Wednesday would be happy Ash Wednesday.
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  You know it's an ironic holiday greeting.
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  So last night we were doing the Crossword New York Times
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  crossword puzzle, which literally was giving me a
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  headache. You had a.
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  Headache before. I arrived, I did.
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  That is true. That's not that is no lie
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  detected. I did have a a headache before
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  doing the crossword puzzle, but I like Wordle.
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  If I'm going to do one of those little online things, Wordle is
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  my go. But on the crossword, there was
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  actually our hometown yesterday, Bari was one of the answers.
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  And we're going to talk a little bit about the province
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  provincially body where our ancestors are from, because
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  there's a famous mass execution that happened there.
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  And since we're talking about death and skulls, I think it's a
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  great place to start. What do you think?
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  There's a town called Otranto, and it's celebrated in Italian
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  culture because it's known as one of the most heroic actions
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  that kept the Italian peninsula ever from being conquered by the
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  Eastern powers, by the whatever they were at that time.
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  The Ottomans, I think it was in that century, the 15th century.
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  So the Ottomans had a plan to just take over all of Italy.
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  So they landed in Otranto, which is right across the Adriatic.
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  It's like 14 fifties. Harrison, can you Fact Check us?
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  Nice. So we're talking about the
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  history of this. Yeah, Otranto.
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  This beautiful church in Bari and why they have skulls at.
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  You want to pull up the picture? Actually, yeah.
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  Harris, come on, man. Harris is doing his hardest job
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  right now. Pull up all of the skulls so.
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  There's an altar that has the real skulls of the martyr 'cause
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  they were all beheaded. So this is the most beautiful
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  church, the most. It's a very beautiful church in
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  Bari, Italy, which is where my brother and I.
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  Are in Otranto which is South of Bari.
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  It's in the same. Old region, but we are not from
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  Italy directly, but we are third generation Italian.
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  Although I'm a dual citizen. And my brother is now a dual
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  citizen of Italy. I'm working on my dual
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  citizenship. Anyways, you were just in Italy,
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  so you saw this church and there's skulls.
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  Are they actual human skulls? Yeah, it's those.
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  Those are the actual relic human skulls.
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  Those are the. Are we pulling it up?
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  Yeah. Wait, they're the relics of the
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  martyrs? Yeah, those that is, those are
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  the martyrs. They were, they were mass
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  actually crazy. There were like 20,000 people in
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  the town. They killed every man, They
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  killed every. Man, sorry, I'm sorry I'm
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  interrupting so much but back up.
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  So this is 14 hundreds Ottoman Turks Muslim.
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  They, they decided against the Christians.
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  They, they decided, you know what, once and for all, we're
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  going to take over the entire peninsula of Italy.
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  So they landed with a massive invasion force in Otranto.
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  Valiant defense, but every single man was slain.
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  This was only like 500 years ago.
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  They murdered every single man. How many?
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  Were. There 12,000 were killed.
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  There were like 20,000 in the town and they killed every man
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  and the rest they put into slavery.
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  Crazy. And they, they, they, they
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  heroically at the sword point, they said, you got to deny your
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  faith that we're going to behead you.
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  They, they gathered a bunch of women and children and men and
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  etcetera. And then they just killed the
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  hundreds of people and all their relics are in an altar on
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  display. So.
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  How many schools are there total in this church?
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  I don't know. We'd have to.
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  And so a lot, but they were, these were Christians who did
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  not refuse to deny their faith to the Ottoman Turks in the
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  1400s. And they were beheaded.
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  And so they, their skulls were taken after what?
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  At what point did the skulls end up in this church?
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  Like this, they were exhumed and then because of course they're
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  yeah, the, the Christians, they were put into a mass grave and
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  then exhumed and the they were put on display because.
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  They're considered martyrs. They're, yeah, they're martyrs.
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  So they, they were beatified 1771, but then they were
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  canonized actually in 2013. It's been, it was a recent thing
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  that Pope Francis said, you know what?
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  We need to make sure these people are in the, the universal
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  calendar of, of martyrs. So that's a very, very holy
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  place to visit if you're ever in, in Italy and you want to see
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  the, the cathedral in Otranto. But why, why do we, I mean, it
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  seems kind of macabre that we would put like AI mean that's
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  just a bunch of human, human bones, skulls, and we put them
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  on display as this like glorious thing.
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  And of course Jesus is at the center in the Tabernacle there.
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  But that's, that's what we, we Christians, we take, we take
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  pride in those who pay the ultimate price because now those
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  people have the hope of the, the, the resurrection,
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  resurrection. And whenever I see like relics
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  on display, I think, wow, this is going to be such a party on
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  the day of resurrection because Christ will bring life to the
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  mortal bodies just like that vision in the Old Testament.
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  Christ will will bring life and those people will just be
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  celebrating. It'll be a, a bustling place of,
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  of party. I love that it'll be a, a giant
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  Easter party in that church at the resurrection.
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  That's where I want to be. I want to be in the Cathedral of
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  O Toronto when all of those bones.
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  At the resurrection of the. Body are in fleshed again Yeah,
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  what happens? When someone's ashes are
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  scattered or if their bodies are lost at sea or something, so at
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  the resurrection of the body. The church does not permit the
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  scattering of ashes. That's against the.
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  But let's say it's a situation you can't help.
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  The body is. Yeah, yeah.
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  You know, there's a car, you know, air airplane crash over an
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  ocean or something horrible. Like that God, God is supreme
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  over all creation. He'll take, he'll take some
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  matter, he'll he'll re. I don't know.
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  I mean, that's a a, a a wonderful thought for the
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  imagination. I mean, you don't know what.
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  Do you mean of course I don't like we, we are, we are dust to
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  dust. We are return.
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  I mean, ultimately. Of course.
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  Ultimately we're going to be re exhumed from the ashes anyway,
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  which is why we do Ash Wednesday.
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  It's a reminder like when the priests a couple days ago gave
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  us our little crosses, he said. You are dust, and to dust you
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  shall return. Do you when I so on this this
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  year at Ash Wednesday, there was the, you know, everybody posting
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  about Ash Wednesday, blessed Ash Wednesday, I posted a picture of
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  my ashes online. A lot of people were posting
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  pictures online of the ashes and there were some people who are
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  saying things like this is exactly what you're not supposed
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  to do because you're showing your piety, like go into the
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  closet to pray. You know, Holy Scripture, Jesus
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  talks about how we're to pray multiple occasions, but he's one
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  of the scriptures says he's we're supposed to not do your
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  prayers to be seen, but your prayers to be, you know,
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  basically between you and God. Don't let anyone see.
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  I think the principle there, I think that people misunderstand
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  is a public witness of faith, like, you know, doing a public,
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  you know, procession with the Eucharist or doing a public
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  wearing of the cross, things like this.
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  It's not to show piety as much as it just show, is it?
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  It's to show devotion. What's your?
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  Take on There are hundreds of millions of people that get
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  their ashes on Nash Wednesday. There's nothing special or
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  boastful or remarkable. Or about mine or.
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  Braggadocious about my ashes. Didn't even look good.
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  They were. The guy was just like Smash
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  Smudge. Like that, I mean the people.
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  Get uncomfortable like because we're like when we're so I think
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  when people are very when we're very detached from like
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  Christian tradition from hundreds of years ago in the
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  modern world, especially if you've just encountered Christ
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  or depending on how your like upbringing was with how you were
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  raised, some of these things can seem pretty crazy to people.
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  Why are you doing this? If you don't have your ashes, I
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  mean, you must be really holy if you're never going to die and
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  you know what I mean? Like if if if anything when it's
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  such a universal Christian practice in the West, like to
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  fail to go get your ashes I think is saying more than having
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  the ashes by. The way we got to say hi to the
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  chat. I'm sorry guys, in the chat.
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  Thanks for being here. So I see Rosemary.
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  Hey, Rosemary, thanks for joining.
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  Paul. I don't know if you can see the
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  chat, but you can see them on my computer.
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  That's fine. Sips with Sarah is here.
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  Hey Sips with Sarah. Sips with Sarah.
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  Sips with Sarah saying blessed Lent Jade is saying that looks
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  horrible. I Jade, are you talking about
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  the the ashes on my forehead? Are you talking about the skulls
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  in the church? Both of them, I think, you know,
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  represent death. So you can say that that looks
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  horrible. And then hey, John Henry.
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  John Henry says Paul Rose's previous appearance rocked.
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  Thank you, John Henry. I like.
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  That John Henry, thanks for all your encouragement.
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  He's always giving encouragement on the show.
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  Seriously, it means a lot to me. Thank you so much.
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  He's one of our favorites. He really is he's and I love the
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  name. It's a great name.
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  I think if you. Have any comments, by the way,
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  we will keep an eye on this chat, you guys.
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  So if you have comments about Lent or comments about any of
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  the things we're going to be rambling about today, then throw
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  that in the chat because we will be keeping an eye on it.
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  I think one of the things about pennants is that when you do
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  penances together as a community, that is the safeguard
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  against like the sort of I'm so like, for example, for our
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  evangelical brothers and sisters, there was a few years
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  ago, it was one of the best ones we've ever had.
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  It was during COVID and we had our little, I, I like to call it
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  our little bubble. So I was living in Boston at the
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  time and it's that kind of a like in, in, in Alston, great
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  neighborhood. And we had a evangelical couple
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  and we had a Catholic couple and a unmarried couple couple
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  married couples, and we all agreed to do a like pretty
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  traditional Lent together. We did no meat for the entirety
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  of Lent. We did vegan on Wednesdays and
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  Fridays we did vegan and no oil. So this is like an old, you
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  know, this is this used to be kind of a universal thing.
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  What I'm? Describing did you guys have any
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  kids by the way or this was like pre kids?
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  At the time, I think Jacob and Gina had their first kid at the
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  time. And yeah, yeah, I, I think there
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  were, there were, there were babies involved.
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  But I, I don't. But for for just to know because
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  a lot of. COVID memories are such a blur.
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  I can't, it's just a, it's like a black hole in my memory.
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  But I, I will say this that it was an incredible experience
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  because we ended up eating like 5 meals a week together and we
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  would, it was like the most beautiful community experience
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  of Lent. And nobody was more special than
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  the other. We all just did the same thing.
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  So really, really marvelous, but the greatest thing about doing a
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  Lent like that, for example, this, this, this Lent, I'm, I'm
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  trying to do the no meat, no alcohol thing.
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  But the the reason why it's great to do something like that,
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  no meat and no alcohol is because it's almost for a
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  selfish reason that I cannot wait to have the bombastic
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  experience in Easter. We, we have my, my wife and I
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  the last like five years. We, we, we do an Easter Sunday
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  and an Easter Monday party because Easter Monday is a
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  holiday in most Western countries, not in the United
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  States because we we got to go right back to the office in the
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  books. And hopefully if you're as with
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  your episode the other day or was it today, the episode that
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  dropped where you should be stay at home moms.
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  Yeah. So in the twisted modern society
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  where you go into the office and you leave your wife and you do
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  that, then, you know, you, you got to go right back to the
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  office on Easter Monday. But we always tried to get as
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  many people as possible to, you know, just take a day off work.
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  Do it, do it for the Lord. It's an octave in the Roman
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  Catholic tradition. No, no, no, no for for Easter
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  Monday. Oh, for Easter Monday.
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  The first day of the Octave, because all 8 days are a holy
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  day. It's a whole 8 day celebration
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  of Easter. It's not just Easter Sunday.
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  So our Easter Monday parties, we on average would have like 85
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  lbs of meat and we we would eat it all.
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  There'd be no leftovers. Oh, I've seen pictures of your
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  of your Easter. And like kegs and I mean, we, we
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  would be single singing Easter songs outside and like that day
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  is way more special. Last year I didn't give up meat
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  for Lent. We had our baby and we just did.
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  We just, we couldn't handle it. And the Easter Monday party was
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  not as special. To have all that meat and to
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  celebrate Christ's resurrection. It's all the more spiritually
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  fulfilling and and it's so much more meaningful if you go
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  through the desert with Christ, if you join him in his forty
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  days, because Christ before he started his ministry.
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  This is where we get Lent, right?
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  We get Lent because Christ spent 40 days in the desert.
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  We get Lent also the early church said because he spent 40
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  hours in the tomb. That's an old tradition.
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  So for each hour he spent dead in the tomb, we die to ourselves
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  40 days. And then in in the early church,
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  it was just the the six week period.
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  So it was six weeks of six days because they take Sundays off,
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  right? Because Sundays are each
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  resurrection day. Yeah, a lot of a lot of that, I
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  think is another sort of like the ashes, like why are you
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  wearing ashes? What's the biblical backing for
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  ashes? There's also the question of why
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  are you doing this Lent thing? What's the biblical backing for
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  Lent? I mean, think about how many
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  times in the Old Testament, like Jonah, when Jonah preached to
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  Nineveh, the whole town put on sackcloth and ashes.
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  So it's not even the animals, right.
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  Like, like they the sign of ashes.
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  Yeah. It's not a modern idea of like,
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  piety. It's it's a public.
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  We're all doing this. It's not like you are going to
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  outdo everybody. There's so many examples in the
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  Old Testament where the whole nation puts on ashes.
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  And it used to be much more. It was probably pour ashes all
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  over your head. We have a very, very, very, very
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  modest way of doing it now, just a little cross and just for one
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  day. But this, this idea of ashes, is
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  to remember death, and also to remember that Christ died, but
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  he rose again. Which is that's.
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  Also why anybody can come and get ashes, right?
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  Like you can be. And, and that's also, I remember
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  last year, I don't remember who I was talking to, but someone
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  was saying how their friend came with them to get ashes.
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  And I think they were Muslim, they were another religion and
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  they've just received ashes because it's the same idea of we
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  will all die. We've all, you know, we all have
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  sin and we all have wrongdoing. So we need to repent.
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  Obviously what it meant to them to receive ashes will be
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  different than maybe to the Christian, but the same idea is,
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  is there, which is we need to be in touch with our weakness, our
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  frailty and the fact that we can't even we know there's no
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  way for us to overcome death as human beings.
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  Like all the like bio tech that's happening right now.
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  And you know, neural link and all of the stuff, you know, Elon
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  Musk, some of his projects with neural link and everything to
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  try to overcome our humanity and our mortality.
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  It's, you know, there's, there's some arguments to be made.
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  Well, maybe they're going to extend the human lifespan a
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  certain degree, but this idea that.
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  We give our account. Yeah.
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  To what end? This idea that you can overcome
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  death as a human being, I think is, is a, a fool's errand.
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  We're not going to be able to overcome death or sin as a human
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  being. Like how as we as how can we as
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  human beings stop other people from doing something evil or
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  fully stop ourselves from making the wrong decisions?
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  And we are so finite. We're so mortal.
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  So the ashes are, are a public reminder of I am immortal.
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  I am a Sinner, you know, I need to repent.
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  But there's also a lot of beauty in that because when we get in
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  touch with how vulnerable and weak we are, then it it opens a
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  space where we need a savior. We need a God who can save us.
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  And that's where all the hope is, of course.
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  Hope, Pope Gregory the Great was the one in the 5th century who
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  made it a a proper 40 day fast in the West because we took
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  Sundays off. So it was six, it was 36 days,
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  but he, he actually said we need an Ash Wednesday because we need
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  those extra, which is why the prayer tomorrow, which is an old
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  prayer in the Roman Missal, the prayer is going to say as we
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  begin this venerable Lent, because that prayer exists.
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  So, so for Sunday, for the 1st Sunday of Lent, the prayer still
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  is something like as we begin this, this sacred thing of Lent,
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  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the reason why that is
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  because it used to start on this on the Sunday, but then 1500
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  years ago they extended it to the Wednesday.
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  So it could be 40 days. But at the time, you know what
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  he said about the 36 days, He says this is our tithe because
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  the year is 365 days. So 10% of the year, just 10%, we
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  are going to give alms more seriously.
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  We are going to fast, we're going to deprive because God
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  gives us so much. He feeds us throughout the year.
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  We are going to take take 40 days and take fasting more
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  seriously. We're going to take penance more
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  seriously and we're going to take acts of charity more
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  seriously. And I love that idea of, of the
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  tide, you know, like of the time that we're given every year,
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  what's what's 36 or now 40 days to remember Christ.
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  In the desert were the early Christians.
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  Do you know if the early Christians, you know, post
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  Jesus's resurrection and ascension, were they doing, you
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  know, a 36 day tithe of sorts before Easter?
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  Like do you know when that sort of become started to become the
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  tradition of the early Christian?
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  So there's a lot of debate, I think, and I'm no expert in
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  this, so you guys can all Fact Check, check me, Fact Check us.
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  But I, I think there's, I think Lent is sort of an organic thing
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  that was only possible because, as I said, it's a public thing.
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  So I think we get more of a standardization of Lent when
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  Christianity became publicly legal in the 4th century.
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  I don't think that there's there's a firm and fast
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  historical evidence that Lent was super widespread and that
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  that might just be because of the lack of a lot of information
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  about the underground church. Those schools we saw like the
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  Christian religion was a catacomb religion for hundreds
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  of years because there was wave of persecution after
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  persecution. You don't really need a period
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  of Lent to remember death if you're constantly on the run
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  from the authorities and constantly in danger of being
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  crucified. So evidence of Lent, it's it's
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  all the more important for a society where we have religious
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  freedom, where we have comfort, where we have food, where we
• 17:36
  have meat, where we have burger chains down the street.
• 17:40
  Lent, Lent is something to give us that momentum Mori that, that
• 17:45
  OG Christian concept, which is that we are a religion of the
• 17:51
  catacombs. We are a religion on the run.
• 17:53
  We are religion in exile. We are religion in our earthly
• 17:56
  pilgrimage looking for eternal, you know, happiness with God.
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  And so I think, I think definitely we get universal
• 18:04
  standards for Lent by the 5th century.
• 18:06
  Definitely we get a 40 day period by the 8th century.
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  But the the primitive Church is definitely something that I
• 18:13
  don't think there's a hard and fast historical proof of.
• 18:18
  Did you see the report recently about the Christians in the
• 18:22
  Democratic Republic of? Congo.
• 18:24
  Oh yeah, they were butchered. Yeah.
• 18:25
  And there was another report today about another wave of mass
• 18:29
  murders, men, women and children, Christians in the
• 18:31
  Congo. I mean, I just think about that
• 18:34
  and I think about the fact that here we are in the United States
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  or in the West, and we have so much opportunity, so many
• 18:39
  opportunities, so much freedom. We have so many material goods,
• 18:44
  so much security, and then we have, we obviously we find
• 18:46
  plenty to complain about, you know, in the US like this is
• 18:49
  wrong. That's wrong, you know,
• 18:50
  politically or culturally or personally.
• 18:53
  But I just think about the fact that there's actually Christians
• 18:55
  who are being hunted right now in other countries and how would
• 18:59
  that should impact the way that we see Lent to?
• 19:03
  Yeah, it's a really good point. And it's not just solidarity
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  because the, the, the soul and the body are intertwined.
• 19:09
  You are a soul and you are a body.
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  You're not a soul in a body. You're a soul and a body.
• 19:14
  And the, the austerities we put our body through and, and, and
• 19:17
  everybody knows this because outside of a religious context,
• 19:20
  there's so much like personal development and there's, and
• 19:22
  people do diets. Like, why is it such a crazy
• 19:25
  thing to do a diet for God when we diet constantly as a culture,
• 19:31
  we're obsessed with different like juice cleanses and, you
• 19:35
  know, meat only diets and crazy things.
• 19:38
  And so it's it, it obviously speaks to a universal human
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  instinct because we aren't just a soul in a body.
• 19:45
  We also have a body and our soul will take cues from the things
• 19:48
  we put our bodies through. And then also we have we have
• 19:50
  the example of Christ to himself ate nothing for 40 days in the
• 19:54
  desert under great temptation. And that's that's who we need to
• 19:59
  journey through this period with is Jesus Christ.
• 20:01
  We need to do it with him. What are you doing for Lent?
• 20:04
  This year I'm just doing I. Know by the way already, I'm
• 20:06
  just asking. For doing no no booze and no
• 20:08
  meat. No booze and no meat except fish
• 20:10
  on Sundays because I want to relax it on Sundays.
• 20:12
  So I'll do fish on Sundays and then I'm.
• 20:14
  Doing How are you doing your protein?
• 20:15
  What are you doing for protein? I don't, I don't know.
• 20:17
  It doesn't doesn't matter. I'm that's not my focus.
• 20:20
  I love cheese. Maybe I'll do some cheese.
• 20:23
  You know, cheese is great. Beans are wonderful.
• 20:25
  Look, my wife is half Mexican. We already have a lot of beans
• 20:28
  and so beans are beans are coming your baby.
• 20:31
  Is a bean. She's such a cute bean.
• 20:32
  Got. Such a cute baby.
• 20:34
  Paul has a very cute baby. We have baby girls that are both
• 20:37
  the same. They're the same age, give and
• 20:39
  take a few weeks. How?
• 20:40
  How old is Carmelita She's. Going to be 1.
• 20:42
  When? In a few days.
• 20:44
  OK, so she's a month older than a little over a month older than
• 20:47
  Gigi. Anyways, it's very, very fun.
• 20:49
  But I I like that. Yeah, I, I mean, for me for Lent
• 20:54
  this year, I'm going to be very, I'm going very simple.
• 20:56
  I mean, I'm still feeding Genevieve, I'm still
• 20:58
  breastfeeding. So I'm not doing any crazy
• 21:00
  fasting or anything like that, trying not to do sweets.
• 21:03
  But my goal is just to actually be faithful with my prayer at,
• 21:07
  at a dedicated time every day, my mental prayer because I, I
• 21:10
  realized it's so easy. I mean, this has been, it's so
• 21:13
  easy to be praying and, you know, have a good routine going.
• 21:18
  And then to fall off the bandwagon, you go on a trip or
• 21:21
  you get sick or you have other family issues or, you know, work
• 21:24
  stuff happening and then you just do not.
• 21:27
  Literally days go by and you still pray.
• 21:28
  Like you say a prayer in the morning.
• 21:29
  You might listen to the gospel readings for the day.
• 21:32
  You might, you know, say bedtime prayers with your family.
• 21:34
  You know, we pray a decade of the rosary night, but you don't
• 21:36
  have a dedicated time set aside to be the most important person
• 21:40
  in the world, which is God, who is God.
• 21:41
  He is the end all be all. And you don't have that time set
• 21:44
  aside and it does it matters. I mean, God is so generous and
• 21:48
  gracious. So I've gone sometimes days
• 21:50
  where I didn't have that set aside time and God still shows
• 21:52
  up. There's still graces, there's
• 21:54
  still opportunities to love and there's still communication of
• 21:56
  some kind. But having that time set aside
• 21:58
  for him is so essential. And the this is the other thing
• 22:03
  I've noticed the devil is so and also just our human frail flesh
• 22:08
  so widely like Satan does not want you to pray.
• 22:11
  Satan does not want you to have dedicated time set aside for
• 22:15
  God. He wants you to think you don't
• 22:16
  need to do that. It's not absolutely essential.
• 22:19
  Just you're busy do your stuff to your life, but and then it'll
• 22:23
  be hard. You'll like make a resolution.
• 22:24
  I'm going to pray today at 10:00 AM And this happened yesterday.
• 22:27
  I was like, I'm planning to do my 10:00 AM prayer time.
• 22:30
  And then I got this call, this e-mail, this text message
• 22:33
  emergency. You know, you were blowing up my
• 22:36
  phone. Just kidding.
• 22:36
  You're, you're fine. You were blowing up my phone.
• 22:38
  But you know all of these things.
• 22:40
  But you didn't answer. I didn't.
• 22:41
  Answer. But I was trying to do my thing
• 22:43
  and so anyways, what Paul was calling me about was what he was
• 22:46
  supposed to wear on Oh. Don't even do.
• 22:48
  Episodes today, which is very funny that that got into your
• 22:51
  head that you had to decide what to wear.
• 22:53
  And our mother told Paul that he should bring Blazers because it
• 22:57
  was a very professional podcast. And I was like, you didn't need
• 22:59
  to do that. But anyways, he looks you look
• 23:01
  great, Paul, you look fantastic. Bottom line is setting aside
• 23:04
  time to pray and like sticking to it.
• 23:07
  Honestly, if there's just one thing you do this Lent, it's and
• 23:12
  if you're not already praying, dedicated time set aside for
• 23:15
  mental prayer, read holy scripture.
• 23:17
  Just talk to God and say God. What do you want to show me or?
• 23:22
  Or don't talk to God because entering length you can just sit
• 23:25
  with God in silence in the desert because think about
• 23:28
  because. It's a good point.
• 23:29
  Paul, the Christian project is to put on Christ.
• 23:31
  That's why in the New Testament we see so much of the verbiage
• 23:34
  of in Christ, pray in Christ. So if you want to pray in
• 23:37
  Christ, which is easy for a baptized person because you've
• 23:39
  been baptized into his flesh, so you have access into the very
• 23:43
  sinews of Christ's body, and so sit with him in the desert, but
• 23:49
  don't even. You're saying don't even when?
• 23:51
  You're sitting, I think clear, clear your mind, clear your just
• 23:54
  sit with Christ only think about his very flesh, think about his
• 23:58
  hunger. And I think that is a starting.
• 24:00
  Place, but you want something to rest your mind, and in that case
• 24:02
  it would be the name of Jesus. Maybe or and So what what you
• 24:07
  said is great because Christ in the desert from that very gospel
• 24:11
  passage we get the words Christ responds to Satan who's trying
• 24:16
  to tempt him. He says man does not live on
• 24:17
  bread alone, but in every word that comes from the mouth of
• 24:20
  God. So what is Christ chewing on the
• 24:21
  in the desert? He's chewing on Scripture.
• 24:23
  Well, I think that that, but back to what you're saying, like
• 24:25
  you don't have to actually like talk to God.
• 24:27
  You can just receive God. I think that's really good.
• 24:29
  I mean, I do think people should talk to God.
• 24:32
  They should expose what's in their heart, their anxieties,
• 24:35
  their fears, their questions, and generally praise him, like
• 24:39
  thank him for all of the things that he's given.
• 24:41
  But to your point, the highest form of prayer is.
• 24:43
  To put on Christ's anxieties, and to put on Christ's thoughts,
• 24:46
  and to put on Christ. 'S mind.
• 24:48
  To pray in Christ, don't. Don't it.
• 24:51
  It is good to let Christ pray in you, but you're supposed to pray
• 24:54
  in Christ. Like one thing that's beautiful.
• 24:55
  When the Catechism talks about intercession, which we as
• 24:58
  Christians do, we pray for our brothers and sisters in the Holy
• 25:00
  Land. We pray for our families.
• 25:01
  You pray for your children. The reason why we intercede, the
• 25:05
  reason why we pray for others, is as simple and in the
• 25:09
  catechism it says this explicitly, as simple as the
• 25:11
  fact that in baptism we put on Christ and Christ intercedes.
• 25:16
  So at all of our prayer, whether it's intercession or praising
• 25:19
  the Father or or asking the Father for things, all prayer is
• 25:24
  done in the person of Christ. And because Christ intercedes
• 25:27
  for the world, He's the he's the intercessor between God and man.
• 25:30
  We join him in that intercession.
• 25:32
  That's such a. That's such a good word that
• 25:35
  you're saying because yesterday when I was praying, it was like,
• 25:39
  there's so much that I cannot do be I was just like and we.
• 25:44
  Can't do anything. We can't do anything.
• 25:45
  I was just like it was it was this like prayer to God of like,
• 25:47
  OK, I cannot do any of this. I am like a speck and So what,
• 25:53
  what next? Right, OK, got really good at
• 25:56
  disciplines and really tough and like study and all this habits
• 25:59
  and but it's like, no, what's next is literally Jesus.
• 26:02
  You do it. You are the one like you are
• 26:06
  everything. And I need to, I need to be
• 26:09
  transformed. I'm I'm starving for that.
• 26:12
  I cannot do it on my own. I can only do it through Jesus
• 26:14
  Christ. And I literally just open myself
• 26:17
  up to Jesus Christ and just say. And the way you do that your.
• 26:20
  Will be done. And the way you do that
• 26:21
  explicitly is with an act of of a surrender like.
• 26:24
  That I believe. Acts of surrender are great,
• 26:26
  Yep, but then also the the way we like my my daughter, she sees
• 26:31
  me doing things, she imitates them.
• 26:32
  We're called to be we're called to be like little children.
• 26:35
  And so we need to put ourselves into the the the home of Jesus.
• 26:42
  We need to watch him because we and God has given us a rebirth.
• 26:46
  We are babies in in the household of God and we are all
• 26:51
  we are called to be like in the Psalm, Psalm 128.
• 26:54
  We're called to be like shoots of the olive around his table.
• 26:57
  He is the man who fears the Lord in that Psalm.
• 26:59
  He is the man who has in in the home of his church in the heart
• 27:02
  of his home been fruitful. Your wife like a fruitful vine
• 27:04
  in the heart of your home. But we are the shoots of the
• 27:06
  olive tree and we have to be planted and watch our Father.
• 27:11
  We have to watch Christ. We have to.
• 27:13
  We have to keep our eyes fixed on Him and then let him do the
• 27:16
  rest. Let him inspire us to be great
• 27:18
  and be better and let Him give us the grace to improve.
• 27:22
  But that only comes through simply watching Christ and and
• 27:27
  adopting the heart of a child. So yesterday I it's very
• 27:30
  beautiful. Yesterday I was talking with
• 27:31
  this woman named Brittany de Lamora, and we interviewed her.
• 27:35
  Actually, we're going to release her episode probably next week.
• 27:37
  I don't know when her episode's coming out in the next couple
• 27:39
  weeks. Will her episode come out?
• 27:40
  But anyways, it was extremely inspiring.
• 27:43
  She was very inspiring. She used to be effectively in
• 27:46
  prostitution, pornography, all of this dark stuff, right?
• 27:49
  Had a conversion fell away like, you know, didn't wasn't really
• 27:52
  discipled, had a rough childhood anyways ends up coming back to
• 27:56
  faith and getting actually some discipleship about like living
• 27:59
  an ordered life, you know, don't do this anymore.
• 28:01
  And you know what does it? What is right from wrong?
• 28:03
  What does it mean to be a Christian?
• 28:05
  But anyway, she was talking about how God told her you must
• 28:09
  leave this career and that's how she made her money.
• 28:12
  Like she and she she had fears that she couldn't make money out
• 28:14
  of any other way. This was her entire world.
• 28:16
  And she just said, I obey because this is evil and I need
• 28:19
  to follow you and I I don't want to go to hell.
• 28:21
  I want to go to heaven. I want to be with you.
• 28:24
  And so she did that, but she had no backup plan.
• 28:26
  There was no like backup plan for her in terms of financially,
• 28:30
  socially, whatever. And she she just was sharing how
• 28:33
  God gave her everything she needed.
• 28:35
  She had no money. Literally money would come in
• 28:37
  the mail from some like insurance check that they like
• 28:40
  everything ended up working out for her.
• 28:43
  Not some some like inglamorous, you know, materialistic way like
• 28:47
  she just was, you know, everything was perfect from like
• 28:49
  the world standards, but everything ended up working out
• 28:52
  for this woman, this former prostitute who finally turned
• 28:54
  her life around, even though she was fearful that she couldn't
• 28:57
  change her life. There was no future for her.
• 28:59
  She had trust in Jesus and she said, I trust in you.
• 29:02
  She did the next right thing and God showed up for her and God
• 29:06
  also transformed her. I mean, she's like this
• 29:08
  childlike faith that she had. It was it was convicting me like
• 29:10
  her faith was convicting me that she just trusted the Lord.
• 29:14
  And what is the Christian life more than yes, repent, believe
• 29:18
  and then what? Trust and obey like that is the
• 29:20
  Christian life. Repent, believe, trust, obey and
• 29:23
  obviously all is all is an. Act of worship, it's just to put
• 29:26
  on Christ and I think one one thing I love is how in Lent all
• 29:33
  the music changes. So being on on our project we
• 29:38
  sing the liturgy of the hours and post logs and vespers and
• 29:40
  compliment on our channel. But.
• 29:41
  Can you sorry? Yeah, so the church has the
• 29:43
  church has liturgies. All the lingo.
• 29:46
  What do? What do all those things mean?
• 29:47
  The Church has liturgies of the hours, meaning set times and by.
• 29:51
  Church You. Mean the Universal church, but
• 29:53
  you're. Talking about, you know,
• 29:54
  obviously a lot of folks listening might be evangelical,
• 29:57
  Orthodox, other things, but Liturgy of the Hours?
• 29:59
  Well, that's, that's the the the current title of the Roman
• 30:02
  Catholic practice of it is the Liturgy of the Hours.
• 30:04
  But other I mean, in the Anglican Church, it's the the
• 30:07
  comic book of prayer. The Lutherans have their their
• 30:09
  Psalter, I forget what it's called, but they're all
• 30:11
  beautiful and they they this is a very, very old Christian thing
• 30:14
  is that we do the it's. Thousands of years old.
• 30:16
  It's as old as it's as old as what the, I mean, the, the, the
• 30:19
  Jewish people did it before we did it.
• 30:21
  But anyway, so we take a set times to pray every three hours
• 30:25
  in the, in the Roman Rite and those the, the, the, the chance
• 30:29
  for Lent change. So for example, every morning
• 30:32
  now when I when I wake up, the first thing I do is the invitory
• 30:37
  Psalm. So every day of the year, the
• 30:38
  church prays Psalm 95 as the first thing they do every
• 30:40
  morning. What is Psalm 90?
• 30:41
  5 Psalm 95 is Come, let us sing to the Lord, and shout with joy
• 30:43
  to the rock who saves us. Let us approach him with praise
• 30:45
  and Thanksgiving and sing joyful songs to the Lord.
• 30:47
  The Lord is God the mighty, God the great King over all the
• 30:49
  gods. Should I keep going or you?
• 30:50
  Haven't memorized? I've I probably.
• 30:52
  How many of the Psalms do you have memorized?
• 30:55
  I don't know, I have no idea. You were telling me yesterday,
• 30:58
  sorry this is a tangent, but you were telling me yesterday that
• 31:00
  because you literally sing the Liturgy of the Hours every day
• 31:04
  and then you also have recorded them for the rest of the church
• 31:07
  to sing through. Sing the hours, your, your, your
• 31:09
  apostolate, or whatever you want to call it that you always have
• 31:12
  these psalms in your mind. Yeah, I shared that with you
• 31:14
  privately, but I guess now the mass is yeah.
• 31:16
  So yeah, I just have a running. It's just it's I can't turn it
• 31:19
  off. And sometimes it kind of it's
• 31:20
  like wow, I literally can't turn it off.
• 31:22
  I just always the. Words of the psalmist.
• 31:24
  I always They're just. The words of Scripture, well,
• 31:25
  they're, they're, they're the, they're the inner thoughts of
• 31:27
  Christ. And that's what excites me.
• 31:28
  But it terrifies me sometimes because I'm thinking, why am I
• 31:31
  thinking about Meribah and Massa and the hardness of the people's
• 31:34
  hearts there? And why am I thinking about
• 31:36
  this? But it's literally the Psalms
• 31:38
  are the thoughts of Christ. So if you want to put on Christ,
• 31:40
  that's why. They pray to the Psalms.
• 31:41
  So it actually is very powerful and beautiful because when I
• 31:45
  text with Paul or you know, he lives in Northern California,
• 31:47
  we're in Southern California. So I'm trying to get him to move
• 31:50
  down here, but he, you live far away from me.
• 31:51
  We used to live in Boston. Recently they moved to you and
• 31:54
  your family moved to California. Anyway, so we call and text.
• 31:56
  Mostly we text because calling is really hard with our
• 31:59
  schedules and stuff. But when we text each other,
• 32:02
  you're always texting like, you know, random, random.
• 32:07
  I mean, it feels random sometimes psalms and you're
• 32:09
  like, check out this, check out this Psalm and then Mehrabad
• 32:12
  Masa and like the Lord in the in the city gates and like all
• 32:15
  this, like, you know, language, right?
• 32:17
  And I'm like, OK, that's very nice, Paul, you know, but you're
• 32:20
  like texting it because it's it's alive in you.
• 32:23
  Like that is speaking to you. The Holy Spirit's using speaking
• 32:25
  to you through that. So in so I'm just, I'm saying
• 32:29
  that it's a beautiful thing and it's inspiring to me and I think
• 32:32
  it's helping many other people through seeing the hours.
• 32:34
  You're inspiring to me. I love Lyla Lyla's the best.
• 32:37
  So in Lent, in Lent, the the tone, so Psalm 95 in Lent has a
• 32:43
  fixed introductory verse, which is come, let us worship Christ,
• 32:48
  who for our sake suffer was tempted and suffered for us.
• 32:54
  And in Latin it's well actually I can pull it up in English.
• 32:59
  I'll sing it in English. If you want.
• 33:00
  Yeah, yeah, we should. But what do you want to do?
• 33:01
  What excites me about the season of Lent musically is that
• 33:04
  there's fixed music that throughout the year, I think
• 33:06
  about when Lent comes, I'm going to get to sing that every single
• 33:09
  morning. And that's my sacrifice of
• 33:11
  praise. Those are the those are the
• 33:12
  words that the universal Church and the music, that's the
• 33:15
  beautiful thing, the music that the Universal Church is going to
• 33:18
  offer to God. And it sounds Lenten like this.
• 33:20
  This energizes my my Lenten observance every single day.
• 33:24
  It starts like this. I'll do you want it in Latin or
• 33:26
  English? Maybe English?
• 33:28
  OK, come, let us worship Christ the Lord for our sake and
• 33:40
  temptation and suffering. And then the tune for Lent is in
• 33:49
  this tone. Come.
• 33:52
  It's so beautiful. Listen, come.
• 33:55
  Let us sing to the Lord and shout with joy to the rock who
• 34:00
  saves us. Let us approach Him with praise
• 34:05
  and Thanksgiving and sing joyful songs to the Lord.
• 34:15
  And then you do the verse in between.
• 34:17
  Come, let us work. Oh, that was beautiful.
• 34:20
  What is that? That's the invitory song.
• 34:21
  So this is the chant, so the invitory song.
• 34:23
  Invitory Song. At the beginning of morning
• 34:25
  Prayer, every day the church opens with a chant and it's
• 34:28
  always Psalm 95, but it's set to different arrangements in
• 34:31
  different. Cities because you are living,
• 34:33
  eating, breathing this, praying this every day.
• 34:35
  Morning prayer. When you refer to morning prayer
• 34:38
  for the church, Yeah, you're talking about.
• 34:40
  The Office of the Liturgy. Of the hour literacy of the
• 34:42
  hours, which is an ancient Christian practice, right?
• 34:46
  Based upon Holy Scripture as a way to every three hours.
• 34:51
  Yes, sing the praises. Of God and worship him using his
• 34:55
  own. Words, yeah, because worship,
• 34:57
  because the project of a Christian worship is giving
• 34:59
  God's own words back to Him. It's not making up our own song
• 35:03
  and then singing it to Him, our own composition.
• 35:05
  Worship is. There is no sacrifice that God
• 35:09
  desires other than the words of his son Jesus and the psalmist
• 35:13
  David as well is how the church has extended that.
• 35:15
  Because Jesus is born in the line of David, God wants his own
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  words delivered back to him as a song of praise.
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  That is the project of Christian.
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  Even what you're just saying, I think there's so much I don't
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  know. We could do a whole conversation
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  about that because there is so much emphasis today among
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  Christians on worship music and there's some very lovely worship
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  music like I, I will admit, I'm a little bit of a sucker for.
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  You know Spirit lead me where the.
• 35:42
  You know, you know, my faith has those.
• 35:44
  Are all great devotional tools, but worship we, we have to be
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  clear about what worship is worship.
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  That's why the pinnacle of worship is when the word of God
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  himself is offered on the altar in the Eucharist.
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  Christ is the word made flesh. And so that is the pinnacle
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  because now it's the enfleshment of what all other worship is,
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  which is the word of God-given to God.
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  That's why all the Liturgy of the Hours is Eucharistic.
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  This is something that's been declared by the church.
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  It's Eucharistic because we are when we receive the word of God,
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  it it enters our flesh and then when we sing it back to him, our
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  flesh has become enlivened to deliver that word back to God
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  rather than it not bearing fruit.
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  Like if if the seed of God, if the Eucharist just goes into our
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  soil and then dies there. That's not the best case
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  scenario, but it flowers into delivering God's Word.
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  I. Was talking to a friend recently
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  who's Protestant, very devout, and she was talking about how
• 36:38
  she listens to worship music and that helps her think of God
• 36:42
  throughout the day. And most worship music.
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  Maybe there's some scriptural reference in it, but a lot of it
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  is sort of, you know, man's words and then they might
• 36:50
  reference Scripture, but it's, you know, words about how much I
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  need you, Jesus like I. Need.
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  It's not a matter of the result. It's not a matter of how it
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  makes us feel or how it makes us better or how it makes us think
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  of God. Worship is is connected to the
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  the virtue of justice. It is it is the just thing to do
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  to give to God to render unto God a sacrifice of praise.
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  And so as a matter of justice, justice has principles like so
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  to fulfill the precept of the the justice we owe God, we have
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  to give his own words back to. Him So I agree with you, of
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  course. But here's the thing.
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  A lot of people today, when they think about spiritual practices,
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  when they think about getting closer.
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  To Jesus. It's all about the personal
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  relationship, which by the way, that relationship of course
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  matters. Then you have to define what
• 37:34
  does it mean to have a personal relationship with Jesus.
• 37:37
  But back to the worship music stuff, I think there's all
• 37:40
  these, you know, worship artists and they sing songs.
• 37:42
  A lot of their songs are about like the need that we have for
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  Jesus, the need we have for God. And then there's songs just
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  praising God, like God, you are great God, you are, you know,
• 37:53
  perfect God, we love you. You are like so merciful, full
• 37:56
  of grace, all of these things. And so there's so many worship
• 37:59
  songs and they're usually like more modern in their beats or
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  whatever. You can have like the older
• 38:03
  hymns, right, that are, you know, different kind of
• 38:06
  variation on the theme. But anyways, so there is a
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  strong sense today in American Christian culture, let's just
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  say that to worship God, absolutely.
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  We use our life to worship God and how we live.
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  But to worship God includes singing these like praise and
• 38:21
  worship songs. And I think what you're making
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  the point of which I think is a very powerful point, is that
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  there's more to the story. We do intercession to put on
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  Christ, right? That's the previous idea we
• 38:30
  talked about the Holy Spirit will recognize his own words
• 38:37
  like there's there's no sure like the way is narrow, the gate
• 38:40
  is narrow and the reason why we've been given Scripture by
• 38:43
  God, the reason why we've been given these these words to
• 38:46
  include in liturgy and worship is to give them back to God and
• 38:49
  to and to participate in the Trinitarian mystery.
• 38:52
  And if we do that outside of and there's nothing wrong with
• 38:55
  hymns, there's absolutely nothing what's and the church
• 38:57
  has approved hymns which, which are used in liturgy.
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  There's a hymn book of the church in in the Liturgy of the
• 39:03
  hours. The liturgy hour is full of
• 39:04
  hymns. There's nothing wrong with that
• 39:05
  and there's nothing wrong with using devotional things to to
• 39:09
  make you, you know, feel closer to God.
• 39:11
  There's nothing wrong with any of that.
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  The point is we need to be particular about what worship
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  is, and worship is when we let Christ be the choirmaster, let
• 39:20
  Christ direct our worship because we're trying to pray in
• 39:23
  Christ. Meaning the words and the
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  person. Christ is the Word of God.
• 39:26
  So the Word of God is a is a participation in Christ's very
• 39:29
  DNA in in his flesh. And that's why I do think
• 39:32
  there's something really beautiful happening right now in
• 39:35
  American Christianity, generally speaking, and Western
• 39:37
  Christianity where there is a, a, a refocusing even among our
• 39:42
  non Catholic Christian brothers and sisters.
• 39:45
  So they're not and the fullness of the faith in the Catholic
• 39:46
  Church, but they're, you know, seeking God, right, in their own
• 39:49
  Protestant faith. But the fact that there is this
• 39:52
  sort of desire to know Scripture and to read Scripture and to
• 39:57
  meditate on Holy Scripture, I mean, I think that's a really
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  good, good movement. That's still different from.
• 40:03
  So reading scripture and consuming it is different from
• 40:07
  delivering it to God. So that.
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  Act as a sacrifice when, when you so there's and we should
• 40:13
  read scripture. We should study it day and
• 40:15
  night. But you're saying literally sing
• 40:16
  the psalms backwards. Literally giving, giving them as
• 40:19
  a sacrifice of praise to God is something that universally all
• 40:23
  Christians in all of history understood from the moment they,
• 40:26
  they, they were two years old forever.
• 40:29
  Well, we're going to do it in a second, but but I, I want to get
• 40:31
  back to you so real quick. What I love about Lent?
• 40:34
  We get these chants that are Lenten vert in Latin.
• 40:37
  What I just saying is like this vernite exulte most domino.
• 40:43
  This is Psalm 95, you bile musteo salutori nostro.
• 40:49
  So the words are the same. It's let us come, let us sing to
• 40:51
  the Lord. But it sounds mournful and it
• 40:53
  sounds like we're, we're on this, this pilgrimage together
• 40:55
  with Christ. I literally when I sing this
• 40:57
  every morning, I imagine Christ there and at the start of land,
• 41:01
  he's at a distance because I'm afraid to approach him.
• 41:02
  And I'm wandering with him in the desert at a distance and I'm
• 41:04
  singing to him as we go through the sand.
• 41:07
  And then in Easter though, and this is what I look forward to,
• 41:09
  I'll just sing you how it sounds in Easter, this first phrase.
• 41:12
  And it sounds like the most beautiful, like listen to this.
• 41:16
  Vernite exulte mustomino ubile muste O Salvatore nostro
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  preocupe musfachi emerus inconvasio NE ET in salmis ubile
• 41:35
  muste. Isn't that so much more like
• 41:40
  we've? We've won.
• 41:41
  We're resurrected. I'm.
• 41:42
  Walking What are the English? Translations when I that's come,
• 41:44
  let us sing to the Lord and shout with joy to the rock who
• 41:46
  saves. Us, let us sing to the Lord and
• 41:47
  shout with joy. But you know, what's beautiful
• 41:49
  is that in that second one, that music, and I just sang it now
• 41:52
  and now I'm thinking about Easter.
• 41:53
  That's Psalm 95 in both cases. But in that second point in in
• 41:57
  Easter, we sing that chant in that tune.
• 41:58
  It's the same chant, same text. We're singing Psalm 95 both
• 42:01
  ways. But in the wisdom of the church,
• 42:02
  we have the Lenten style for it. It's not just we're singing
• 42:05
  Psalm 95 the same way every day. It's in Lenton.
• 42:08
  We sing it the same way for 40 days straight and then an Easter
• 42:10
  for 50 days, literally because the the weather gets warmer.
• 42:13
  I wake up in the morning and when I sing that one, now I'm
• 42:16
  clinging to Christ in the garden and he's resurrected and the
• 42:20
  birds are chirping and I see flowers and that tune is
• 42:23
  perfectly. And now my meditation.
• 42:25
  Now I'm really, I'm, I'm totally praying in Jesus.
• 42:28
  And even though it's the same Psalm, it's the Psalm of Psalm
• 42:30
  95 where it talks about Maraba and Massa and it's talking about
• 42:33
  the in the wilderness, the entire meaning of it in the
• 42:36
  context of Christ revealing to us in the liturgical year
• 42:38
  changes because of the music. And this music is like 1000
• 42:41
  years old. And it's beautiful also to think
• 42:44
  that joining me, I'm not singing this alone when I sing.
• 42:50
  Let us sing to the Lord. It's not, it's not let me sing
• 42:53
  to the Lord. Let us sing to the Lord.
• 42:54
  And with me are all of those martyrs of Otranto who would
• 42:56
  have sang this in the exact same tune.
• 42:58
  All those, all those skulls come to life and I'm, I'm walking in
• 43:01
  the desert with them and we're all following Jesus together
• 43:03
  because it's a body of Christ. It's not just me.
• 43:05
  I'm not just Christ's body. We all are.
• 43:07
  And we're singing I, I can whenever, when I I prayed this
• 43:09
  in your backyard this morning and when I sang it this morning,
• 43:11
  the entire host of all the Christians who have sang it in
• 43:14
  this tune, all these martyrs, all these people join me.
• 43:16
  And now Christ is my choir master and Christ is the one who
• 43:20
  has given me these words to pray and I'm bring them back to God
• 43:22
  in the desert because I cannot live on bread alone, but on
• 43:25
  every word and chant that comes from the mouth of God, in the
• 43:27
  mouth of His church, his bride. Amen.
• 43:31
  Amen. We'll do it.
• 43:32
  You know what? Yeah, we'll do it.
• 43:33
  But you know what? This makes me?
• 43:35
  This is the thing. I mean, I'll, I this is my
• 43:38
  experience. Anyways, we have our lives.
• 43:40
  We have our relationships. We have our responsibilities.
• 43:43
  We have our desires. We have our human functions.
• 43:45
  Like we're just living our lives, right?
• 43:47
  And I think this vision that I think you're promoting of really
• 43:51
  Christianity, not some new idea. This is like ancient
• 43:54
  Christianity carried on until the present day.
• 43:57
  This is the practice of Christians for thousands of
• 43:59
  years to give the words of Christ back to him through the
• 44:02
  liturgy of the hours, to sing praises to God, not in our own
• 44:06
  inventions, but using sacred Scripture, the word Jesus Christ
• 44:09
  made flesh. You know, obviously worshipping
• 44:11
  Jesus in the Eucharist, receiving him in the Eucharist
• 44:13
  is part of this. Obviously essential anyways,
• 44:15
  when, what's so crazy to me is like when I see you do this
• 44:19
  because you pray every three hours.
• 44:21
  You, you like you're, you're, it's kind of, to be honest, it's
• 44:24
  not annoying as a mean word, but like when I'm, when I see you,
• 44:27
  you're like, we got to pray. We got to pray the literacy of
• 44:29
  the person. Like we're about to have lunch,
• 44:31
  Paul, or like, you know, it's, it's 8:00 PM and we're in the,
• 44:33
  we're literally made conversation about something
• 44:35
  else or like putting the kids to bed.
• 44:37
  We got to pray. We got to, we got to do this.
• 44:38
  It's a time, it's time for the thing.
• 44:39
  And I'm just like, what? You know, OK, whatever, but
• 44:43
  there's something. Trying to embarrass me in front
• 44:44
  of my friends. No, no, no.
• 44:45
  It's, it's what I'm saying is it's beautiful and humbling
• 44:48
  because here's the thing, not that everybody has the ability
• 44:51
  to pray every part of the Liturgy of the Hours, but I
• 44:54
  think you would argue all Christians should pray some of
• 44:57
  the Liturgy of the Hours all. Christians of the church argues.
• 44:59
  The church says that we should, Yeah.
• 45:01
  And this is this is the kicker. OK, instead of having like our
• 45:04
  personal Bible study where we're like, we're going to go through
• 45:06
  the book of Mark, you know, like we're going to read the book of.
• 45:09
  We can be priest, prophet and king.
• 45:11
  But can I explain that this is the most So what you and I just
• 45:13
  did in the church, because Lila and I just did this for for
• 45:15
  morning prayer. We the reason why Christ says
• 45:19
  where two or more gathered in my my name than I am among you.
• 45:21
  If you're studying the Bible on your own, that's a beautiful
• 45:23
  thing and you should be filling your mind with the word of God.
• 45:26
  But something special happens in liturgy when 2 Christians gather
• 45:30
  in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
• 45:33
  When we embark on liturgy together, which is a public act
• 45:37
  and a social act, What happens is we get to we get to
• 45:41
  experience our baptismal identity.
• 45:44
  We are baptized into priest. What else?
• 45:47
  Prophet, prophet and king? Priest, prophet and king.
• 45:51
  Yes. Because that's Christ identity
• 45:53
  and we're baptized into the flesh of Christ.
• 45:55
  Sorry, sorry, it's spiritual. Bingo with me on Live's YouTube.
• 45:58
  I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. No, it's OK, you can do that.
• 46:00
  Priest, prophet and king, so I. Was going to say priest,
• 46:03
  prophet, and martyrdom. The reason why I'm annoying
• 46:05
  about this and the reason why I look.
• 46:07
  Forward. To because I can't, I can't
• 46:10
  fully experience my, my identity without you.
• 46:12
  Lila. Let let me explain what we just
• 46:15
  did in the church. If, if I had done like this
• 46:16
  morning when I did it, when I did it in the backyard, I wasn't
• 46:20
  fully able to practice priest, prophet and king.
• 46:21
  Here's why I was able, I was able to practice priest because
• 46:25
  I offered a sacrifice, the sacrifice of praise, which is
• 46:27
  what they call the liturgy, the hours.
• 46:28
  So in the backyard this morning while while you were in your
• 46:30
  meeting, I, I offered the office of readings Matins and I did a
• 46:34
  sacrifice of praise, a priestly act, which I'm, I'm is my
• 46:38
  birthright in baptism. I'm baptized a priest, that's
• 46:42
  what that means. I'm baptized people offer a
• 46:44
  sacrifice of praise #2 though prophet, I'm sort of doing it.
• 46:49
  But prophecy needs an audience. When you and I were switching
• 46:53
  off praying the Psalms this morning in the church, when when
• 46:57
  I was doing my couplet of verses, I'm prophesying to you
• 47:00
  because I'm, I'm giving you the the word of God.
• 47:03
  I'm delivering you a message. That way too, I receive like,
• 47:06
  'cause when you when you hear someone else say it to you, next
• 47:08
  to you unto God, it's different. It's different and then you say
• 47:11
  it and you're you're kind of confirming each other's
• 47:13
  sacrifice of praise. You're saying you sacrifice of
• 47:15
  praise and I receive it and Ioffer.
• 47:17
  With you, but when you receive it, who receives when the wise
• 47:21
  men gave Christ gifts, what are they acknowledging about Christ
• 47:25
  that he is king and so to receive the word of God.
• 47:28
  And that's why you sit during the the the the praying of the
• 47:31
  Psalms usually is because you're you sit enthroned then and
• 47:34
  another person. You then get to participate
• 47:37
  mystically what what is happening in heaven when we do
• 47:40
  the liturgy hours you you get to sit as Christ and receive just
• 47:44
  like Christ is receiving his own words back to him.
• 47:45
  Your identity as Christ king in that moment when we switch off
• 47:49
  and I take those two verses and do them to you, you are now
• 47:51
  king. So priest, prophet and king only
• 47:52
  works if you have another person and then when we're together,
• 47:55
  two or more gathered and. There's the thing, it's so
• 47:57
  beautiful what you're saying and when you actually dive into it,
• 48:00
  it makes so much sense. But to your average Christian
• 48:03
  today, this is a culture shock because this way of of
• 48:07
  understanding prayer and understanding Holy Scripture is
• 48:11
  not the way that most people were raised like a very small
• 48:15
  fraction even of. Because we've been raised in
• 48:17
  Babylon. A very small fractions, like the
• 48:19
  tiniest fraction even of Catholics.
• 48:21
  I'm going to argue like .1% of Catholics, we're raised with the
• 48:25
  liturgy of the work. Excuse me, the Liturgy of the
• 48:28
  Hours singing the Hours, right? Yeah, we got work to do.
• 48:31
  What's their birthright? It's all.
• 48:33
  Of their birthright powerful is like, I just look at like the,
• 48:35
  the, the, the piety and the dedication that I see, like the
• 48:39
  obedience I see with so many of my, you know, fellow Christians,
• 48:43
  including non Catholic Christians who are like, I'm
• 48:44
  going to do my daily meditation. I'm going to do my daily
• 48:47
  scripture reading. I'm going to listen to praise
• 48:49
  and worship music. I'm going to praise God through
• 48:51
  praise and worship music. If I hold some sort of a
• 48:53
  spiritual event, I'm going to open it with praise and worship
• 48:54
  music. So I think people understand
• 48:57
  because we were made for this. They want to worship, they want
• 49:00
  to praise. They know that's they're
• 49:02
  supposed to do that. They want to do that.
• 49:04
  It's transformative when they do.
• 49:05
  But what's missing is, you know, there's a 2000 year tradition
• 49:11
  intrinsically tied to Holy Scripture of how to make this a
• 49:15
  part of your life and and order it so that you're not kind of
• 49:19
  making it just like me and Jesus.
• 49:21
  You don't have to be the Pope. You don't have to make your own
• 49:23
  liturgical rules. Isn't this why you became
• 49:24
  Catholic? You you became Catholic because
• 49:26
  they because they what you had a recent episode about this on
• 49:30
  Matt Fradd It it it is a a source and font of of doctrinal
• 49:35
  and moral certs certainty. It's also a source and font of
• 49:40
  of praxis certainty of, of how should we approach God, How, how
• 49:44
  can we give his words back to him?
• 49:45
  How can we praise him? What is going to be a sacrifice
• 49:47
  that that he that he will delight in.
• 49:50
  And that's why that's why I became Catholic.
• 49:52
  That's why you became Catholic and all that exists in the
• 49:54
  prayer of the Catholic Church. They the reason why they I know
• 49:58
  because because we are more in a we are just the, the death of
• 50:03
  culture has happened of all culture and it's, it's affected
• 50:06
  Catholic culture too. But the, the beautiful thing is
• 50:10
  that this stuff speaks for itself and it's beautiful.
• 50:12
  And you can, you can listen. You can join me in prayer on
• 50:14
  sing the hours. And by the way, that invitory
• 50:15
  song for Lent I published on our channel, chance and rants.
• 50:18
  I sang the whole thing in Latin and English.
• 50:20
  There are two videos on chance and rants.
• 50:22
  If if you want to pray the Psalm 95 the way that the church is
• 50:25
  going to pray every day for the next 40 days, you can check out
• 50:27
  that video. So Paul, I want to just look at
• 50:29
  the chat. All of our friends are in the
• 50:31
  chat right now. And then we'll do our prayers
• 50:32
  and we invite people to pray with us, right?
• 50:34
  Yeah, sure. Yeah.
• 50:35
  You can pull up I breviary. You can pull up I breviary
• 50:37
  before. That Let me just say hello to
• 50:39
  folks in the chat. Oh, Jared Koch.
• 50:41
  Hi, Jared. I know, Jared.
• 50:42
  I love Jared. He's saying hello, Jared and I.
• 50:45
  Reconnected a couple. Weeks ago so cool hello, Jared.
• 50:48
  OK, we've got a lot of folks here.
• 50:50
  Julius is saying thanks for this awesome broadcast.
• 50:52
  That's so sweet. Sarah says Lila's brother is
• 50:55
  just as brilliant as she is all. Oh, no, that's so sweet.
• 50:57
  No, he's actually smarter than me, but.
• 50:59
  I'm a total amateur. No, he's everything I say.
• 51:01
  You got to look up. And then, well, yeah, we we have
• 51:04
  Harris here to Fact Check us, which is great.
• 51:08
  Christ, Christ with Chris says beautiful voice.
• 51:10
  He was talking about your voice. Because that is it, Lila.
• 51:13
  You have a beautiful voice. Thank you, Claudia says.
• 51:16
  Love Lila's brother. So funny and smart.
• 51:19
  Thanks, Claudia. That's very kind.
• 51:20
  Claudia, you can you, you can stick around.
• 51:22
  You can watch us anytime. You're filling up his cup.
• 51:25
  Thanks so much, Claudia. And then Victoria says you can
• 51:27
  tell you guys what happened to that comment.
• 51:30
  Hi, Victoria. Sorry, the chat's moving.
• 51:33
  And so I scroll up and it scrolls down.
• 51:35
  I think I lost that comment. I'm sorry Victoria all right
• 51:38
  well, we'll cut we'll have to come back to that anyways.
• 51:42
  Thank you guys so sweet for all of the comments.
• 51:45
  We're going to pray together now.
• 51:48
  So this whole episode has been about Lent and prayer during
• 51:51
  Lent and sacrifice during Lent and and death and skulls.
• 51:55
  We talked about the death and skulls already, but anyways,
• 51:58
  we're going to do some Liturgy of the Hour.
• 52:00
  So which Liturgy of the Hours let's?
• 52:02
  Just do daytime prayers. This.
• 52:04
  Is called daytime prayers, so can we actually?
• 52:05
  We'll do mid afternoon prayer pull up by Breviary.
• 52:08
  We actually, yeah, so. We're just like breviary.com or
• 52:10
  whatever. If you are watching stop your
• 52:12
  scroll pray with me and my brother.
• 52:14
  It'll take about 5 minutes. Don't pray with us, pray with
• 52:17
  Jesus because the Universal Church is going to.
• 52:19
  We're both looking at Jesus. Jesus is going to lead us in
• 52:23
  prayer. Jesus.
• 52:23
  Is going to lead us in prayer. That is why we do the office.
• 52:26
  OK. And two or.
• 52:27
  More gathered. Or two or more gathered.
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  Gathered. Oh, I guess we should be looking
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  at this camera, Paul, because this is the one if it's.
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  We're going to wait. Hi, guys.
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  Hi, guys. OK.
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  Yeah, So just do I Breviary. OK, If if you go to the website
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  there, there's a mobile app for Ibraviary.
• 52:44
  Ibraviary is a digital way to access the books that contain
• 52:47
  the prayers for every three hours.
• 52:48
  It's a great website. So I think you need to go to
• 52:50
  ibraviary.org/EN and let me see, how about divineoffice.org?
• 52:56
  It might not match because we're doing just just do, just do
• 52:58
  Ibraviary. You'll, you'll be able to pull,
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  pull it off. There's one link that's their
• 53:01
  website and there's one link that's just, they're like
• 53:03
  digital technical difficulties. Another comment from Vincent.
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  Vincent says. What's funny is that I just
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  discovered seeing the hours on Sunday.
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  I had no idea it was your brother Lila.
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  That's cool. That's cool.
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  Sometimes I have no idea I. Have a lot of siblings.
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  I have seven siblings, so. Look, Harris, if if you type in
• 53:23
  look at this, if you type in ibravial to Google, it'll have
• 53:27
  all the prayers right there and you can click just click on
• 53:30
  daytime prayer. All right, so we're going to do
• 53:34
  mid afternoon prayer and we're just going to do it with very
• 53:37
  simple chant. It'll be great.
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  Lila Lila if if you mess up the chin, don't worry.
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  Just just focus on the word of God because I I've just just
• 53:44
  don't be self-conscious. Just whatever comes out is
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  beautiful. Why would I be self-conscious?
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  She's impossible. All right.
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  Are you saying? That I have.
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  The tune we're going to use by the.
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  Way no. You have a gorgeous voice.
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  The tune we're going to use, by the way, we're doing the third
• 53:56
  hymn the for mid afternoon prayer.
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  We're going. To do and we'll do them all
• 54:07
  together, all right and. Then we're going to switch off a
• 54:15
  lot of you and I will switch off verse by verse, line by line,
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  OK? OK.
• 54:19
  All right. So let me, can you?
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  Are you going to put it right in the middle?
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  So I can see it and I'll sing the anti phone by myself.
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  OK. You ready?
• 54:29
  All right. OK, so you're starting this?
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  Yeah, I'll start and then this is called morning this.
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  Is daytime prayer what what we're doing is called non
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  meaning the 9th hour. We're doing the 3:00 PM office
• 54:41
  or mid afternoon. You can do it as close to three
• 54:43
  as you. Can.
• 54:43
  Right now I'm sending you a bunch of.
• 54:44
  Texts. All right?
• 54:48
  Uh oh. Special instructions I'm not
• 54:49
  Privy to. This is bad.
• 54:51
  She's saying turn off Paul's mic.
• 54:52
  Wait. Turn it off.
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  Shut him off. Bounce him out of here, guys.
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  OK, We're doing daytime prayers with Paul Rose.
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  And as as one last comment and. Paul will sing and I will sing
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  it. Paul has instructed me not to be
• 55:04
  self-conscious and I will do my best.
• 55:06
  This is a this is the Friday office, so it's probably going
• 55:10
  to be in the Psalms. It's probably going to be the
• 55:12
  inner thoughts. 11 helpful starting point is remember
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  Christ during his crucifixion and try to pray these Psalms in
• 55:23
  from his vantage point looking at his accusers.
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  I guarantee you it's going to give you Christ's internal
• 55:29
  disposition on his crucifixion day.
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  So think about that. Unite yourself to Christ
• 55:36
  suffering and also Christ in the desert.
• 55:39
  Just think about Lent, but also think about it's Friday.
• 55:41
  So the church often has prayers on Fridays.
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  So this is a more meditating on what is going to be Good Friday,
• 55:47
  the day of Christ's crucifixion. So it's tied to that.
• 55:50
  You're the in in the office. You should always approach it
• 55:53
  with, with meditation because you're, you're fixed on Christ.
• 55:56
  You're putting his words. So it's no, it's no light
• 55:59
  business. You're putting Christ's words to
• 56:00
  your lips, so you have to put his.
• 56:02
  Let's do it and. Then Jared is asking, should we
• 56:07
  sing with both of you where we are?
• 56:08
  Yes. You can either pick Paul as your
• 56:10
  avatar, or you can pick me. So you can sing with me or you
• 56:13
  sing with Paul, and then we trade off.
• 56:15
  OK, so you. Can be my team or Paul's team.
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  Yeah, Paul has the better voice. Gentleman sing with me late.
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  Yeah, yeah. Here we go.
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  Ready. OK all.
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  Right, all right. God, come to my assistants.
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  Lord, make haste to help me. Glory to the Father and to the
• 56:29
  Son and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, it's
• 56:32
  now and will be forever. Amen. 3 * 3 hours A sacred sum
• 56:46
  unfolds before us as we sing in Jesus holy name.
• 56:50
  We beg the gift of pardon for our sins.
• 56:54
  See how the thief confessed his faith and merited Christ's
• 56:59
  saving grace. Let our devotion and our praise
• 57:03
  obtain His pardon and His love. Now death is ruined by the
• 57:09
  cross, and after darkness light returns.
• 57:13
  Let horror brought by sin dispersed, and splendor shine in
• 57:18
  minds and hearts. We ask the Father and the Son,
• 57:23
  and beg the Spirit of them both. Sustain us with your loving
• 57:28
  care, who reigned forever three and one.
• 57:32
  Amen. Armed with God's justice and
• 57:40
  power, let us prove ourselves through patient, endure and.
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  Wait, does Harris know where to go?
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  You know where to go, Harris. OK, You got it.
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  OK. Great, the Princess oppress me
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  without 'cause I stand in awe of your word.
• 57:56
  I take delight in your promise like one who finds a treasure.
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  Lies I hate and detest, but your law is my love.
• 58:07
  Seven times a day, I praise you for your just decree.
• 58:12
  The lovers of your law have great peace.
• 58:15
  They never stumble. That's so good.
• 58:18
  I await your saving help. O Lord, I fulfil your command.
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  My soul obeys your will and loves it dearly.
• 58:28
  I obey your precepts and your will.
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  All that I do is be for you. Glory to the Father and to the
• 58:35
  Son and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is
• 58:41
  now and will be forever. Amen.
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  How good and how pleasant it is when brothers live in unity.
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  It is like precious oil upon the head, running down upon the
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  beard. Running down upon Aaron's beard,
• 58:59
  upon the collar of his bone robes.
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  It is like the dew of Herman which falls on the heights of
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  Zion. For there the Lord gives His
• 59:08
  blessing life forever. Glory to the Father and to the
• 59:14
  Son and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, His
• 59:18
  now and will be forever. Amen.
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  Rescue me, Lord, from evil, men from the violent, Keep me safe.
• 59:28
  From those who plan evil in their hearts and stir up strife
• 59:32
  every. Day, who sharpen their tongue
• 59:34
  like in adders with the poison of Viper on their lips.
• 59:39
  Lord, guard me from the hands of the wicked, from the violent,
• 59:43
  Keep me safe. They plan to make me stumble.
• 59:46
  The proud of hidden a trap. The proud of that have spread
• 59:51
  out there, have spread out lines and a net that snares across my
• 59:56
  path. I have said to the Lord, You are
• 59:58
  my God. Lord, hear the cry of my appeal.
• 1:00:02
  Lord my God, my mighty help you shield my head in the battle.
• 1:00:07
  Do not grant the wicked their desire, nor let their plot
• 1:00:11
  succeed. I know that the Lord will avenge
• 1:00:14
  the poor, that He will do justice for the needy.
• 1:00:17
  Yes, the just will praise your name.
• 1:00:21
  The upright shall live in your presence.
• 1:00:24
  Glory to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
• 1:00:29
  As it was in the beginning, is now and will be forever.
• 1:00:33
  Amen. Armed with God's justice and
• 1:00:38
  power, let us prove ourselves through patient enduring.
• 1:00:44
  Really quick, if anyone's can I say one thing, sorry.
• 1:00:46
  OK, Pray with us if you, you can sing with me or with Paul for
• 1:00:51
  the rest of this, just in case you're just joining.
• 1:00:52
  Sorry. Sorry, looking after orphans and
• 1:00:56
  widows in their distress and keeping oneself unspotted by the
• 1:00:59
  world make for pure worship without staying before our God
• 1:01:05
  and Father. My sacrifice to God is a
• 1:01:10
  contrite spirit. A humble, contrite heart.
• 1:01:14
  O God, you will not spurn. Let us pray, show gracious
• 1:01:18
  favour, O Lord, we pray to the works of penance we have begun
• 1:01:25
  that we may have strength to accomplish with sincerity the
• 1:01:30
  bodily observances we undertake through Christ our Lord.
• 1:01:38
  Amen. Benedict almost domino deo
• 1:01:43
  gracias deo grazias, which is loosely translated to let us
• 1:01:46
  praise Lord, give him thanks, Amen, Amen.
• 1:01:49
  Follow us on Holy Spirit. So that's that's the Denver so
• 1:01:51
  short that's like. 5 minutes. Thank you.
• 1:01:53
  That was beautiful, Paul. You, you did great.
• 1:01:56
  It's so intuitive, isn't? It it's good.
• 1:01:58
  I mean, that is true about chant and and this, you know, singing
• 1:02:02
  the hours is that it is very anybody can do it.
• 1:02:05
  Yeah, anybody. It doesn't matter how bad your
• 1:02:07
  voice is. That's true, because one thing I
• 1:02:09
  one, one thing I meditate on frequently is Andrea Bocelli has
• 1:02:12
  a great voice, right? We talked.
• 1:02:13
  About this in our last episode. Well then why not say it again
• 1:02:16
  I. Say it again.
• 1:02:17
  Say it again. If you think Andrea Bocelli has
• 1:02:19
  a good voice and only he can sing, praise and you just sing
• 1:02:22
  in the shower cause your voice is no good.
• 1:02:24
  Think about the cherubim and the angels who praise God all day
• 1:02:27
  long. Their voices are supernaturally
• 1:02:30
  better than Andrea Bocelli, so God thinks you're nothing to to
• 1:02:33
  sneeze at in. Terms of And God loves the God
• 1:02:35
  loves the little kid belting out song to Jesus.
• 1:02:38
  And he hears God. Loves even the child.
• 1:02:40
  And hears his son. That's why we do the office is
• 1:02:43
  because he doesn't hear us. He hears his Son because we're
• 1:02:46
  praying in Christ and that is what he wants.
• 1:02:50
  Paul, you're the best. Wait, is.
• 1:02:51
  There anything else you want to talk about about Lent?
• 1:02:53
  I feel like we got sidetracked. We got so sad.
• 1:02:55
  I'm a one trick. You are kind of A1 trick pony
• 1:02:58
  with your sing the. Hour.
• 1:02:59
  Terrible. What about Don Burr and Jay?
• 1:03:01
  What about the friends? Well, we we were going to film
• 1:03:03
  another episode. What about the friend?
• 1:03:05
  Episode I had this whole thing prepared with the French.
• 1:03:08
  I know Paul goes on these epic rants, which he literally has a
• 1:03:11
  YouTube channel called Chance and Rants and he will go on
• 1:03:13
  these rants. And I kid you not, I've had a
• 1:03:16
  number of phone calls with Paul where we're talking about one
• 1:03:19
  thing and then all of a sudden and, you know, Paul starts a
• 1:03:22
  rant. So we're it.
• 1:03:23
  Sounds like you too. No, not, not as bad as you.
• 1:03:25
  So we, Paul and I are on the phone.
• 1:03:26
  We're talking about like, you know, when we're going to film a
• 1:03:28
  podcast or like how our kids are doing or businesses or
• 1:03:31
  ministries or whatever anyways, And then Paul will start like
• 1:03:34
  ranting hard on me about some, you know, need in the church for
• 1:03:39
  the prayers and the Psalms. I thought I was going to.
• 1:03:41
  Literally I have done this. This does sound super rude.
• 1:03:43
  I do not recommend it but it it you know, trust me it's OK.
• 1:03:46
  I like put it. I put it on mute.
• 1:03:48
  I got my because I got my kids usually and you're like talking
• 1:03:51
  and I'm, you know, doing my stuff with my kids, changing my
• 1:03:53
  diaper or something, changing my child's diaper or something.
• 1:03:56
  But anyways, but you like, you don't need me to respond to your
• 1:03:59
  rant. You do a good and solid,
• 1:04:02
  sometimes like 4 or 5 minutes of like pontifications, you know,
• 1:04:08
  and then usually I'm like, I'm so sorry.
• 1:04:09
  I got to go. I got to go.
• 1:04:10
  It's good stuff. It's good.
• 1:04:11
  That's why he's good. He has a YouTube channel so he
• 1:04:13
  can share his wisdom and. Brilliant.
• 1:04:15
  Even my friend and whom I trusted who ate my bread has
• 1:04:17
  turned against. Him.
• 1:04:21
  I love the ball. You're the best.
• 1:04:23
  I love you too. Yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Should we talk about the French or are we closing?
• 1:04:25
  The French? What about?
• 1:04:26
  I had this whole I, I it's Tom Granchet, the 5 minutes.
• 1:04:31
  Who's Dom? Shuren Shay.
• 1:04:33
  Gurin, Shay. Who is Dom Gurin Shay?
• 1:04:35
  What does this have to do with Lent?
• 1:04:36
  It has. Everything to do with Lent
• 1:04:37
  we're. Going to do a closing thought.
• 1:04:40
  OK, we each will give a clothing closing thought about Lent.
• 1:04:43
  Paul's will likely to have to do with the French.
• 1:04:46
  And it'll likely be 5 minutes and Lila's going to put me on
• 1:04:48
  mute while she takes care of her children, so, you know.
• 1:04:51
  It's going to be 60 seconds, Jared says Paul is a ranter.
• 1:04:55
  Did he have an extra coffee today?
• 1:04:57
  Yes. Paul doesn't need coffee to
• 1:04:59
  rant. Paul naturally rants.
• 1:05:01
  Even even in a state of sleep deprivation and caloric
• 1:05:04
  deprivation, he can still rant. But anyways you get 60 seconds
• 1:05:07
  for Dom Gervais. Gernjay.
• 1:05:09
  Sorry, Gernjay. He was a French monk who re
• 1:05:12
  established the Abbey of Salem who now does all the chants of
• 1:05:15
  the church. Amazing figure. 18th, 19th
• 1:05:19
  century France. So in his introduction to Lent,
• 1:05:22
  he has his volumes of liturgical year.
• 1:05:23
  I just want to read a couple of excerpts and that'll be it.
• 1:05:25
  It'll take about a minute. Is that OK?
• 1:05:28
  So first he quotes a papal document from 1741.
• 1:05:33
  Quote. The observance of Lent is the
• 1:05:35
  very badge of the Christian warfare.
• 1:05:37
  By it we prove ourselves not to be enemies of the cross of
• 1:05:40
  Christ. By it we avert the scourges of
• 1:05:42
  divine justice. By it we gain strength against
• 1:05:45
  the Princess of darkness, for it Shields us with heavenly help.
• 1:05:48
  Should mankind grow remiss in their observance of Lent, it
• 1:05:53
  would be a detriment to God's glory, a disgrace to the
• 1:05:56
  Catholic religion, and a danger to Christian souls.
• 1:05:59
  Neither can it be doubted that such negligence would become the
• 1:06:02
  source of misery to the world, of public calamity and of
• 1:06:06
  private woe. And Dom Granger says, must there
• 1:06:12
  not result from this ever growing spirit of
• 1:06:15
  immortification, a general effeminacy of character which
• 1:06:19
  will lead at last to frightful social disorders?
• 1:06:23
  Wow, what does that mean? An effeminacy.
• 1:06:25
  Effeminacy of character that leads to frightful social.
• 1:06:29
  It means that if you can't deprive yourself of like this or
• 1:06:32
  that for a certain period, then you're self disciplined.
• 1:06:35
  You're, you're going to have all kinds of crazy like you'll,
• 1:06:38
  you'll have a generation of people that has no impulse
• 1:06:40
  control. And aren't we kind of there All
• 1:06:41
  right then? He says.
• 1:06:43
  Yeah. Like try it out.
• 1:06:45
  Check it out. It is good.
• 1:06:46
  So then he says practice. Mortification.
• 1:06:48
  So far we have been speaking. I'm just skipping around one
• 1:06:50
  last excerpt. So far we have been Speaking of
• 1:06:52
  the non observance of land and its relation to individuals and
• 1:06:54
  Catholics. Let us now say a few words upon
• 1:06:56
  the influence which the same non observance has on a whole people
• 1:06:59
  or nation. There are but few social
• 1:07:01
  questions which have not been ably and spiritedly treated by
• 1:07:05
  public writers of the age. But it is often been a matter of
• 1:07:08
  surprise to us that we should have overlooked a subject of
• 1:07:11
  such deep interest as this, the results produced on society by
• 1:07:15
  the abolition of Lent, that is to say, of an institution which
• 1:07:18
  more than any other keeps up in the public mind a keen sentiment
• 1:07:22
  of moral right and wrong, inasmuch as it imposes on a
• 1:07:25
  nation an annual expiation for sin.
• 1:07:27
  No shrewd penetration is needed to see the difference between
• 1:07:30
  two nations, one of which observes each year a 40 days
• 1:07:33
  penance in reparation of the violations committed against the
• 1:07:35
  law of God, and another whose very principles reject all
• 1:07:38
  solemn such solemn reparation. And as a final point, he says,
• 1:07:42
  I'm looking at the subject from another point of view, and he's
• 1:07:44
  a prophet here, he says, is it not to be feared that the
• 1:07:47
  excessive use of animal food tends to weaken rather than
• 1:07:49
  strengthen the constitution? We are convinced of it.
• 1:07:54
  The time will come when a greater proportion of vegetable
• 1:07:57
  and less of animal diet will be considered as an essential means
• 1:08:00
  for maintaining the strength of human frame.
• 1:08:02
  So monks have known that all along that I just eat very
• 1:08:05
  little meat and vegetables, and I live to 110 and all my
• 1:08:07
  brothers. And one day, he says, even
• 1:08:09
  though it wasn't in the 1800s, he says one day science will
• 1:08:12
  demonstrate that actually limiting our meat.
• 1:08:16
  And isn't red meat now a known carcinogen or carcinogen?
• 1:08:19
  OK. OK.
• 1:08:20
  I'm sure you've had. I'm sure you've had the meat.
• 1:08:22
  Only people on your. Yeah, I know, I know, right?
• 1:08:24
  Now and be like, you know, not. But anyway, there's my eggs.
• 1:08:28
  Thank you French. Thank you, French.
• 1:08:31
  Look him up. Amazing.
• 1:08:32
  Figure JJ. Dom Gurrenjay.
• 1:08:36
  Dom Gurrenjay, Thank you brother.
• 1:08:38
  Thank you, Thank you for humoring me.
• 1:08:40
  Yes, I let him rant. That wasn't my rant.
• 1:08:42
  Chat. It's like we want the French, so
• 1:08:44
  let him rant. We want the French rant, Amos
• 1:08:47
  says Amos. Says we want the French rant.
• 1:08:49
  We got me on mute. You got your rant guys, let me
• 1:08:51
  know if you like that. She's going to put me on you.
• 1:08:52
  Don't even have the power to put you on mute.
• 1:08:54
  Herod has to do it. And Harris says, well, Harris,
• 1:08:56
  are you on his side or my side? It's like, who's who's paying my
• 1:09:00
  checks? All right?
• 1:09:00
  I'm he's on my side. All right, OK.
• 1:09:02
  I'll be Paul for 30 seconds. OK, I think we're going to wrap
• 1:09:06
  now, you guys. Thank you for joining.
• 1:09:08
  I'm about to film another episode with Paul, which will
• 1:09:10
  probably come out in the next couple.
• 1:09:12
  Weeks, I said. You're going to give thoughts on
• 1:09:13
  Lent. Oh, my final.
• 1:09:14
  Thoughts. OK, my final thoughts on Lent, I
• 1:09:18
  mean, it's very simple, guys. I am honestly my big, literally
• 1:09:23
  the Holy Spirit. I prompted this, I believe, and
• 1:09:25
  used multiple people in my life who encouraged me to do this,
• 1:09:28
  like multiple different people. But my big commitment for Lent
• 1:09:31
  is to carve out faithfully that time every day for mental
• 1:09:35
  prayer. And that means reading Holy
• 1:09:36
  Scripture and just like opening myself up to the Holy Spirit and
• 1:09:41
  to Jesus. But to set that side of time
• 1:09:43
  with it, literally a time block of this is for Jesus.
• 1:09:45
  It's sacred time and that's my plan for Lent.
• 1:09:49
  I'm not doing anything else crazy.
• 1:09:50
  I'm, you know, going to go light on sweets.
• 1:09:52
  But it's really the prayer because it is so easy.
• 1:09:55
  It is so easy to not make that time for Jesus every day in
• 1:09:59
  sacred silence, sitting with him and meditating on His word and
• 1:10:03
  just giving His word as Paul says back to him.
• 1:10:05
  So that's my plan. You guys can ask me how it's
• 1:10:08
  going in a week, but every day without fail make that time so.
• 1:10:12
  There it is. You're the best.
• 1:10:14
  Thanks brother guys, thanks so much for joining.
• 1:10:15
  Us. Yeah, that was fun.
• 1:10:16
  Thanks guys Eyes.